Korean Les and Gay React to Transgender Glow Up for the First Time!! | LGBTQ+

[@aren6986]

as a trans guy who likes men seeing the gay guy say “he is always welcome to this side” made me incredibly happy

[@gabrielpiscopo3916]

Nice Disturbed pfp =)

[@reharm_reality]

Yes 100%

[@jeoncena5713]

I'm a trans girl who wants to be a boy and date a boy, when he said that I felt the same

[@pinkbackground3787]

@@jeoncena5713 do u mean trans guy?

[@aren6986]

@@gabrielpiscopo3916 thanks mate

[@blu4get]

as a trans guy, i'm personally not terribly offended by this video. of course people who haven't interacted much with trans people irl are going to not know how to say all the right things. they were well-meaning, and i think that given the context (i.e. they were supposed to give their reactions), what they said was just questions that anyone might have. we as trans people aren't obligated to spend our time educating cis people, but i also think that it's too harsh to berate people who are making a good faith effort to understand, and who clearly do want to learn. i just ask people to consider whether vitriolic comments are creating any good or remedying any harm, or whether they just contribute to embitterment.

[@oleander_garden]

I just wish they would hire trans people to answer their questions while watching these, and the translator needs to do a better job

[@animeartist2461]

@@oleander_garden they do have trans people, but those said people aren't working on set at that current moment.

[@Iloveocs]

Yeah I agree :] not everyone is gonna know everything about trans people and trans issues so its better to educate and answer and not get mad at them if they are showing they are trying their best to understand it

[@oleander_garden]

@@animeartist2461 then it’s not the same thing. If they are going to film a video about trans people and show it to people who know nothing they should have the right people ON SET educating them, the person doing the subtitles should also be educated on how to write the correct pronouns cuz it’s not correct.

[@tailaxy]

wlw and mlm solidarity is ✨✨✨

[@casluvs]

Yes! I’m a lesbian and I have so many male gay friends that I love sm bc we really do relate despite being attracted to different genders! It’s sad how much toxicity there is between the 2 community’s on social media tho :((

[@ineffablemars]

also include bisexual people!!

[@sahartariq3261]

I really appreciate the variety of topics this channel is trying to cover and really love the LGBTQ+ representation of Koreans. However, I do feel like this video could have benefited from having a trans person present with both of them (as long as the person is comfortable doing so) to share their own story and maybe guide the conversation better, simply because a lot of comments in the video were likely made without fully understanding what trans people go through. I think that they would have made more insightful comments while learning from the experience of a trans person, rather than just randomly reacting to TikToks without context. I’m sure that was the whole point of the video, but I think this video could have really benefited from the trans perspective. I’d love to see Yena on the channel again!

[@mariecamacho3053]

Totally agree

[@berdelibulanadam]

I was looking for that comment. Some parts of it sounds really transphobic actually. I know they didn't mean anything bad but if this is a lgbtiq+ channel they should develop their ideas before doing something like that.

[@lululu3298]

Yeah!❤

[@Jzaday]

I loved this video and I think we need more blunt open discussion like this. People won't always say the right things but sometimes these questions make people realise their ignorance and reconsider their feelings. I also think it's totally valid to not know how you'd feel when it comes to sex with people who haven't transitioned yet. There's no pretending it isn't different. They didn't invalidate their gender they just wondered how it would logistically work.

[@im_just_vidu]

"How come she have slimmer waist than me?" Same girl same 😅

[@crazycatchick4111]

These two vibe so well together 😍💞💖☺️ as a proud member of the LGBTQIA+ family, it's always so heartwarming to see my fellow members getting along even when there's no sexual attraction to facilitate a man and woman's relationship with each other, I have no doubt these two beautiful people can find a very wonderful friendship with one another🥰✨😻🏳️‍🌈

[@spr0_vT]

Something to keep in mind here for the people that don't know Korean and seeing the subtitles say the wrong prns for the people, they're not actually using the wrong pronouns because they're not actually using pronouns at all when they're talking about them (the Korean language very commonly doesn't use gendered pronouns). It's been translated so that there are prns for the English audience. Whoever translated the video could've been more informed when translating it to english and using the right prns but they probably didn't know.

[@gilliebeann]

This was the cutest pair! I really loved their dynamic together~

[@crazyowlgirlcncowner]

Aw, it was disheartening to hear how they wish they could get married but can't still. Especially when they were talking about wanting kids as well. But on another note, i was not expecting to see Nikita Dragun on here lmao

[@astro-mn]

I just wanted to clarify that just because someone is FTM doesnt mean they are a bottom. I am a trans man in a gay relationship with a cis man, and I top most of the time.

[@hide_o.o]

The big problem of the trans community is precisely that we are related to the genitals before our gender identity. The trans community is very varied where the person who does not want to go through surgeries or hormones is also respected, it is validated equally in their identity. It seeks the integration of trans people into the various groups and remove the erroneous idea that is had about sexual orientation of trans people. In my case trans gay I find it difficult to interact with other guys who rely on the genitals. Where the same guys in the gay community point to another cis male for having a relationship with a trans man, "telling him he's less of a man". it is good to be given visibility

[@carolap.b.335]

Actually, I get and I can understand that people have a preference on genitals since for some people intimacy is an essential part of a relationship (for example, I'm a straight girl and I dated a trans guy for 5 months but we never had sex because at the time he didn't have bottom surgery yet and I'm not sexually interested in the female anatomy) but about what you wrote at the end, I really don't understand it when people say shit like that. If a cis gay man date a trans man he's still gay because he's dating another man...

[@hide_o.o]

@@carolap.b.335 I understand what you are saying and I would answer you more but I do not want bring some malicious comment from some troll. Your topic is delicate , thanks for sharing.

[@carolap.b.335]

@@hide_o.o i'm sorry but english is not my first language so i'm not sure if I 100% understood your response and i'm extremely confused right now😅 IF I understood it right yes, it's a sensitive topic so talikng about it right here is not the place and giving a look to the comments that people leave on the internet I understand your fear for trolls (the can be hurtful) (did i spell hurful right?)

[@hide_o.o]

@@carolap.b.335 that's right, it's not exposing both of us to people without empathy. What is your mother tongue?

[@carolap.b.335]

@@hide_o.o Italian😅I've studied english for a while but I still have some problems spelling words sometimes🤣

[@alicemarqui8660]

I simply love the videos with LGBTQI+ peoples

[@Alien21i]

Gay🏳️‍🌈❌🫵

[@drycoochie2146]

​@@Alien21i You are acting so gay

[@heartxxbreaker]

I love your content - thank you for the work you do!!! 💖💖

[@MoMad-xb3gs]

I was very happy with their openness to the conversation of relationship with a trans person. And seeing them be amaze at how beautiful some of the trans formation are. 🥰

[@Hici26]

Awww they both are so cute y me encanta que hablen sin tapujos 🥰

[@Xarmutinha]

Im gay and...im attracted to the lesbian lmaoooo🤣🤣

[@pinkbackground3787]

Honestly.... Couldn't blame you lmao she's very attractive.

[@Xarmutinha]

@@pinkbackground3787 yeeees, balanced face

[@babyxblue]

It's no surprise. She has a very androgynous face. Really attractive

[@zamanasif5766]

Where are you from?

[@MSmdsgr]

Not your fault. I am not lesbian. But I am also attracted to her. That's because she is handsome like a k drama ML

[@lumr.8726]

damn jihoo is so beautiful, omg in love

[@roycetravels]

The kid of the trans man is actually also non-binary now! They share clothes and have a super close relationship. :)

[@nezzeee]

This was amazing. Great to see them speaking openly. Love them both! 💕

[@カブカブ-b3q]

They both have such an amazing chemistry 💖

[@marinamim3243]

I love how Korea bringing up variety show and openly Talking about LGBTQ+ topic...I'm 99.99% straight but I so respect them.we all are equal in this world..these shows are really important to open up one's mind....I really hope the world will be more open minded 'bout LGBTQ+ community...🇧🇩🇰🇷🏳️‍🌈💖💕

[@Onisana.]

Jihoo is really my type so sweet and a very cute and contagious smile and laugh i would like to know women like her ♥

[@terreplowell4691]

I think everyone has their own preference with genitals when it comes to sex. But as a trans man who hasn't had bottom surgery (SRS) as yet and cis people within the community make it seem as though it's weird to have sex with me, it just feels so ignorant (in my opinion). Like a cis woman would still have her same sexuality as before and wouldn't suddenly become a lesbian just because of my genitals. Like that's not how it works

[@sahartariq3261]

Thank you so much for sharing this, Terre! I completely agree and I'm so sorry for the ignorant and rude comments you may have gotten regarding that. We always have your back!

[@venesaa8527]

Well because cis women are attracted to male genitalia it makes perfect sense

[@blehheh3096]

this is what my mother said as a cis straight woman (i cant speak cause im bisexual lmao): if he is fully transitioned with all surgeries i wouldnt care, i would like to know before hand that they arent biologically male but at the end of the day it wouldnt change my view on him , but if he did not have full surgeries then i would not be able to be with him. im not a lesbian so im not attracted to vaginas, to be completely honest i want to puke even imagining eating out a vagina. so what i got from her saying this is the genitals are litteraly the biggest part of dating someone. unless you are asexual you are going to have sex, you cant have sex with genitals you dont have an attraction to. it isnt ignorant. it isnt transphobic. and sadly it is how it works. if a straight cis person doesnt want to have sex with you until you are fully transitioned it is complety normal and understandable.

[@terreplowell4691]

@@sahartariq3261 omg that's so sweet

[@berdelibulanadam]

@@blehheh3096 that's a preference, not sexual orientation. Not about being lesbian or straight. Genital areas doesn't make you man or woman. That's not how transgenderism/orientations work. Nobody forcing anyone to sleep with people who didn't have surgery but when they are talking about their preferences they should not say "because im not lesbian/gay/bi/pan", that looks like transgender people are not enough for their real genders, for example if it is transgender woman, she is not completely woman until get surgery and that sounds really transphobic.

[@bajoyf]

The lady looks like Park Bo Gum, very cute.

[@CalistoX]

why does no one talk about how Jihoo look like Park Bo-gum?

[@mariecamacho3053]

Truly wish there was a trans person present in order to guide the conversation better. Maybe next time?

[@Jikook7stan]

Estou apaixonada pela jihoo, ela é tão linda😩💘🇧🇷

[@Raeray440]

I think Jihoo is cute with her reaction to the FTM lol 😆

[@fish8776]

They could be a best friend who would commented everything hahaha

[@Millie-dq6ib]

omg 4:00 i forgot the name but James Charles did a video of like a show on his channel it was a collab with that person

[@sachay_away]

Nikita Dragun

[@Millie-dq6ib]

@@sachay_away thank you i suddenly forgot the name anyways thank you

[@hanvalenn]

Jihoo really needs to drop her skin care routine.

[@yerielking5426]

both became pan for a sec. ✨😂

[@hopeworld4110]

Why she is so handsome 😭❤️🥺

[@Sunny-bc2mu]

They are so sweet I want to see more videos with this duo

[@Yuriaki_Maika_4376]

Haha I'm a gender fluid bisexual person so haha and all I want to say is JIHOO MARRY ME

[@ineffablemars]

I have such a crush on Jihoo WOW

[@oleander_garden]

To all the cisgendered people in the comments wether you are queer or not, if there are people who are trans in the comments saying they are offended you do not get to tell them they have no right to be. Do better. Non trans people do not get to tell trans people what they are allowed to be offended by.

[@berdelibulanadam]

I wasn't expecting that kind of a video from this channel actually. It was really transphobic and obviously it would make many transgender people offended.

[@oleander_garden]

@@berdelibulanadam to make myself more clear I do not think the video itself nor it’s intent is transphobic but channels like this have repeatedly refused to do the proper research and it comes off as ignorant and hurtful, some of the comments made in the video can come are very ignorant and the subtitles continually misgendering is very hurtful, which I know is in no way related to the people on the video and the fault of the person translating, I just wish they would invite actual trans people to educate the guests and have a trans person review the content shown beforehand, I also wish they would hire a better translator.

[@susansharphaynes555]

Jihoo is a handsome shim!!😊

[@namgyalsarang2772]

Wasn’t she a judo athlete? I saw her cool kids on the block! She fought against Jota?

[@sedayuday762]

I want to see this duo agaaaaaaain pleaseeeee

[@raphaelsanluis9711]

I loved dookyun

[@muginfires]

the lesbian was going through it i love it

[@bonnies_world]

I love your channel awesome contents ... Love to to see more

[@rendysutedja9487]

I think that guy is bi , really, must admit it kwkwkwkwk 😂😂

[@gagana5697]

Both stole my heart🥲

[@xiera4966]

Not me watching because Jihoo was so attractive😯

[@filippa1434]

I love the video.

[@mileaposdaughter]

4:11 Oh that's bretman's sister right?? Edit: ok lmao she's not actually bret's sister, just found out lol.. Sorry

[@ari_1388]

🌈❤️

[@geraldpioneta1683]

I wish they had shown yoshi rinrada.

[@babyvitoria579]

I looked for you, but you didn't find it in my apps

[@babyvitoria579]

I'm happy to meet you park

[@sevenswordsin]

Beautiful Love Is Beautiful 😍

[@leefelixsegg2666]

Id like to make it clear that romantic and sexual attraction dont have to be the same. For a lot they are. Or they dont realize its not. Examples would be asexual or aromantic people. Could like romance or sex. But not both. Or maybe they are aro ace. So neither. Maybe homosexual heteromantic. That person would be okay with dating cis person and trans person. But probably only have intimate relations with the trans person. Theres many combos. Im ftm and i dont get annoyed when people say they wouldnt date me unless i had bottom surgery. Man women nonbinary ect. They cant help they arent attracted to me sexually. (Personally i dont blame them tho. I dont even wanna do things like that without having bottom surgery first. It just feels gross. Thats me tho. Not everyone) Im homosexual biromantic. Id date both women and men. But i can only see myself getting intimate with someone AMAB (assigned male at birth) who hasnt undergone a sex change. If i have a sex change or not, i only like AMAB sexually.

[@oleander_garden]

You have to get better editors for the subtitles the misgendering is not okay.

[@1rkhachatryan]

Somehow I think Jihoo would look quite similar if she ever transitioned lol.

[@Tranitosaur]

More masculine though as their face alters when using T. Her skin would be different also and etc.

[@blu4get]

@@Tranitosaur tbh my face and skin haven't changed too much... i think i look a little more masculine somehow, but it's not a big difference. i have an adams apple, thicker eyebrows, and my hairline is slightly higher. but idk if you would really be able to notice the difference in my face unless you really looked hard.

[@heheha47338]

What kinda country is korea Cant tell the difference between male and female (idk what that is)

[@_sapphic]

저도 레즈비언이라 존경하는 마음으로 드리는 말씀... 지후님 너무 예뻐요 😍😉영어 → 한국어 번역기를 사용하여 작성하고 있으므로 정확하기를 바랍니다.Jihoo 싱글이라면 제 이름은 Corinne입니다. 저는 싱글이고 29세 미국 나이로 미국 테네시에 살고 있습니다.이제 부끄럽다 안녕 😊

[@clay_themultifan]

did they already have a lesbian guest but not a butch type? like a feminine lesbian, i wanna see a korean feminine lesbian 😂 american feminine lesbians are pretty and looks like they can break your heart easily by just looking at you, im just curious if one of them look like Mina from Twice, she'll definitely break your heart easily 😂😂😂

[@user-jx9on3cz3v]

Koreans react to American girl group Boys World please

[@raeny1733]

what's mean (lesbian)?? please can anyone answer me

[@-JA-]

❤️👍

[@chlorisnyx5178]

Is it possible for a gay to like a crossdressing lesbian or a lesbian to like a crossdressing gay? Has it ever happened to anyone? If so, can you tell me how it ended? I'm just curious. I mean no offense.

[@Deshh.m]

That can never happen tho. Sexuality doesn't depends on clothes. If this happens to you,I think you just like their fashion sense or maybe you're a bisexual

[@gummynoodles9036]

Did they forget you can get pregnant before marrying and that many kids grow up with 1 parent. I dont like this video, its just spreading misinformation

[@dawnnn444]

a lot of their comments were a bit transphobic and they’re rlly uneducated about the trans community tho

[@lovablecharacter8167]

Ooh, plz explain. I'm curious which comments were transphobic? Genuinely asking, I want to know

[@sahartariq3261]

I have to agree @amber. I don’t think they meant to be offensive or has any malice intended, but that the comments may have been from a place of unfamiliarity and subject to interpretation. And to answer your question @Lovable Character, maybe they were translation mistakes, but they kept referring to the people in the videos with the pronouns that were (likely from) before they transitioned, and at 3:15, the line about “Because was so pretty, and I’m a lesbian” was a bit uncomfortable, because that tiktoker was likely misgendered and the sentiment behind that comment could be seen as a bit hurtful. Additionally, when they were answering the question about being approached by a trans person, they made it seem like that they were only comfortable/interested if the person fully underwent gender affirmation surgery. A lot of people have this idea / There’s this perpetuated idea that trans people can only be “complete” if they undergo surgery, when it’s not true. Surgery is also a big thing to consider on many factors. Some people may just have preferences when it comes to dating, but the way they were laughing about it could come off as hurtful to someone who hasn’t undergone surgery. I feel like attraction can someone can go beyond what’s going on down there, and the way they changed when the question was flipped was a bit off-putting. I wish they were just a bit more careful about their language and I want to know if they’d act the same way if a trans person was in front of both of them. Edit: Thank you for everyone correcting me about the translation and how Korean doesn’t actually have pronouns. This is definitely a translation/editing mistake and I hope that the pronouns in the English subs can be changed. Thank you for also providing your opinions on the preference/surgery issue that I brought up; the different points that you brought up made me reflect a lot.

[@sele6247]

@@sahartariq3261 I agree about the 3:15 comment (assuming it's not a translation mistake, also l don't think it was intentional, not trying to excuse it though). The preference thing though... you said it yourself, it's all about what they are into/feel comfortable with, people are free to choose who to date and be open about it. Not everyone is going to meet everyone else's preferences, it's not something only trans people experience, some people only date tall people, brunettes, people older than them, etc. not everyone is going to like you, and that's fine. They never said trans people were only complete if they had bottom surgery, all they said is they weren't sure THEY would be interested in people who hadn't had it, it's not that deep and it doesn't mean everyone else thinks the same. Instead of policing what other people say and being defensive, we should encourage people to be confident about themselves and stop caring so much about what other people say. As long as you are a good person there's going to be people that likes and appreciates you just the way you are.

[@lovablecharacter8167]

@@sahartariq3261 oh I see. I understand now. I do agree with @Sele, it didn't come across to me that they didn't see trans people as only complete if underwent surgery, just that they, themselves, have a genital preference. Also, the 3:15 mark, it is a mistranslation. From my basic korean knowledge, what she said was "because was pretty". The subject is usually omitted because it is implied what is being talked about. But in english, it doesnt make sense, so I guess the translator wrote in "she" not knowing what it would mean to a FTM Trans person (I'm giving benefit of the doubt here though, so hopefully they really didn't know)

[@_WhiteW0lf_]

I don't think Hanggul have pronouns to differentiate so the translation won't be accurate. This has been an issue too on other Korean channel videos & channels with subtitles.

[@harryrocks44]

The end of the video was the most important to me as a lesbian because yes these people can pass very well but at the end of the day the most gorgeous person who presents as a woman will not be compatible with me if born a boy. We are homosexuals and that is not an attraction to internal feelings and presentation (though presentation can play into it), it's absout being attracted to the same-sex. The reality is we'd more more down with someone trans but born a girl than the other way round, which is only logical. If a trans man is early in their transition or isn't medically transitioning there's virtually no physical difference with a masculine woman. And I like that we're seeing them think about that at the end, without the stigma pushed on us in western countries and in "queer" spaces to be validating machines.

[@riya_nanda9214]

I am really confused by some Comments here, so I am a straight girl and I prefer straight men, and even of tranmen who went through full surgery I would still prefer straight men, how is this homophobic? No I am genuinely asking I not that educated about tgbtq still trying to learn new things every dat, so plz enlighten me.

[@someoldytaccount]

It would depend on your reasoning as to why you would prefer a straight man over a trans man. If they looked the same, could offer you the same quality of affection, and would both have male sex organs (if that matters to you), what is it that differs about these hypothetical men in your eyes and once you figure that out, why do you place value on it? Value meaning why would being told someone's trans be a "turn off" for you, and therefore you put value in what you believe only a straight man can offer you. My only assumption is that you may feel one man offers a "better" or "more true" experience than the other, which if this is the conclusion you come to after asking yourself, it is indeed based in transphobic (not homophobic) rhetoric. Which doesn't immediately mean your intentions are transphobic or that you are transphobic (transphobic meaning an extreme dislike, fear, or hate for trans people), just that your subconscious views have been affected by transphobic comments and beliefs. These are things you need to educate yourself about, and that includes looking into yourself and questioning why you believe in things. Hope this helps. Feel free to ask me anything or explain something better! You're already doing well by asking :)

[@bvgg2630]

trans men can be straight. if what youre trying to say is you prefer a cis guy than say that instead. p.s. cis means cisgender. cisgender people are men or women who didn't transition from their assigned gender at birth.

[@rhsarah7887]

I get the good intent behind this video but I've stopped counting how many times they've misgendered or used the wrong pronouns after 2 mins.. I do not speak korean thus I cannot say whether it's the editors fault or the guests' but please do better, I know you can, this video was clumsy and turned out to be really offensive.

[@rhsarah7887]

Also I forgot mentioning "regretting" someone else's transition is just plain wrong and I hope the guests can learn from their mistakes, maybe invite someone that is actually transgender next time to help them correct themselves and avoid these comments?

[@onemore4775]

korean has no gender specific pronouns.. so I think it was a mistranslation.

[@rhsarah7887]

@@onemore4775 Okay so the editors really were clumsy...

[@oleander_garden]

@@rhsarah7887 yeah it’s not the guests it’s the person writing the subtitles, I agree it’s very annoying

[@sahartariq3261]

Thank you so much for bringing this up-

[@biditadas4992]

I guess I am PANSEXUAL now from being a BISEXUAL....💜💜💜❤️❤️❤️

[@berdelibulanadam]

Liking someone who is transgender doesn't make you pansexual. It's something different.

[@gummynoodles9036]

Pansexual is having a type or an attraction regardless of gender, bisexual is experiencing 2 or more types of attraction to different genders. A transgender person isn’t less their preferred gender as a cis person. Its okay to not be attracted to transgender people but its not a 3rd gender. Hetero men who are in a relationship with a trans women, isn’t less straight.

[@OFCZB1KimJiWoong]

I am a non binary pan sexual

[@NANANA-fy6bd]

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@withasante]

Is this necessary 🧍🏾‍♀️ what up with the emojis

[@kutana]

this was not necessary

[@dreamie887]

yes vomit on your own comment and name

[@eman3283]

Your such a sad person😔 like who hurt you??

[@nickybernard3322]

What your problem 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@lucysan8469]

지후? めっちゃ可愛い.😶 @hu_o.o_ + video reacción = 💘 I love it😶