Korean Men Discuss Whether BTS Should Receive Military Service Exemption | STREET DEBATE

[@AsianBoss]

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[@shokes7813]

“ Incredible, strong, and steady” - me, talking about the interviewer’s arm as she holds the microphone up and outstretched for 16 min.

[@areuthere4793]

ㅠㅠ

[@anacacic2442]

Please

[@yelenaa4746]

I was thinking the exact same thing!

[@elumix2430]

In my country Ecuador Men and Women can do the military service. Korea should introduce Women on military service . It is their country too.

[@singularityjackson]

They should invest in a mic stand!

[@famousamos]

Unpopular opinion, but I think it’s ridiculous. Having served in the Army myself, we need to get rid of this mindset of, “if I suffered and wasted 2 years in the army, then so should you”. I get that the peninsula is under an armistice, but why isn’t military service a voluntary option yet? Why is it only men that are conscripted? I think the morale of the force would be higher if it was VOLUNTARY and the compensation was HIGHER. But that’s my opinion and I know it’s not popular.

[@famousamos]

Modern warfare isn’t a body count issue, where you send lines of troops against each other. Rather, it is more of an artillery (field + air defense), drone, and cyber environment which doesn’t make sense to have more physical bodies in the front line. BTW, Korea has the 12th largest economy in the world, they can at least give their forced Soldiers minimum wage!

[@thatcanadiangrandma]

I absolutely agree with you here. Your unpopular opinion might not be so unpopular after all......

[@kykim6398]

Took the words right out of my mouth

[@Trkive]

YES!!!!!!! it shouldn't be an unpopular opinion and soon it won't be- this is what happens when systems are challenged. The former will feel slighted and the traditionalists won't see a need for reform. This isn't about an exempted individual and they shouldnt be shamed because of a law that was written before they were born NOR should a government tip toe to justify that they screwed the pooch inventing "exemptions" that are impossible to measure.

[@kykim6398]

@blowing trees first of all what does that have to do w the current topic and second no it's not stop w the stereotyping and if we're gonna play that way so are a lot of countries. Like stop ✋ im tired of going everywhere and hearing that im korean and nobody I know has gotten plastic surgery period gtfo

[@whostolemyfries]

Idk why people assume that bts are trying to "escape" their duties. They've never once expressed displeasure at having to do so or said that they'd like to be exempted. Its always been the public speculating things.

[@reti-mj7qc]

We cannot run away from our duties

[@Abby-oh3gr]

@@reti-mj7qc and they never said they were trying to avoid it

[@ritajaralbio7866]

True that they never said they want to be exempted but some of thier fans write a petition about it and even asking korean president to exempt bts for serving thier duties because they said bts contribution to koreas economy is exeptional they need to exempt bts so basically people dont just assume about it they just reacting to some armys petition.they dont react without basis.

[@athenazeus8317]

Yes bts never said that. But it's not a secret that korean mans mostly doest want to enlisted and grateful if they dont have to do that

[@luciaas4174]

@@ritajaralbio7866 i remember that, but i also remember it started after the talk about ' can bts get exemption ' was already out there,, so i think it was not started by the fans only ,it was little bit weird bc other ent. companies wanted bts to get exemption

[@gracyviegas4057]

The men here were so respectful. They did not bring BTS down while also mentioning other people/artists and how important the service is.

[@carolinekim6562]

yes😊i respect this comment

[@LarryWater]

A nation cannot survive without strong men defending it.

[@아라김-q8r]

it's for camera

[@chimtuhu8191]

Cause they already know BTS is trash and there was no need to address such fact.

[@lalmuankimikimkimi1566]

@@chimtuhu8191 then who are u?* A mistake????*

[@lora4990]

BTS themselves have stated multiple times that they will serve their time. They are not the ones that are asking for exemption, but some of the ministers within the government.

[@k3taicha]

Exactly.

[@ankitaverma4468]

Then ask them to exactly does that with every idol all are famouse and they're more famouse doesn't mean they got exemption

[@praem9597]

Bts should ask their country to stop believing the lies of the World Health Organisation. Because the meausres like masks are based on lies and agianst human rights.

[@alyssaj3637]

The ministers just wants some popularity ofcourse..its politics

[@chuang_0331]

@@ankitaverma4468 actually I think it can relate to how famous they are and how well they are doing in their field. For example, an Olympic athelete could be extempted because they are the top in their field and are bringing pride to their country's reputation. Where as a normal athlete can't be extempted. It is the same idea. BTS is considered the top in the their field, and their fame help boost their country economy. One of the big points of serving in the military is the idea of serving their country. But them being BTS and bringing tourism, recognition, revenue is much more impactful for the county than them just serving the the military. In the end of day, it is the government choice and their choice, so I will respect anything that happens

[@tehnsaiiixoxo]

It has already been announced that there will be no Military Exemption for BTS but it's nice to hear from Korean Men's perspective regarding this.

[@juliat6444]

some political figure brought the subject up again recently. that's why this interview was conducted

[@Trickyy01]

even you are famous artist its doesn't mean you can skip the military its a proud thing to do for your country I hate this type off interview If bts skip there military service then some time later other also start to skip their military service " why don't we skip military service then why bts skip there military service " Military make our country.

[@jra3978]

They probably brought it up because of how much they contribute to the economy, especially rn with the virus

[@tytube3001]

Chinese are going to attack BTS, they are going to need military training

[@vanya3425]

I think bts should be exempted because korean government is itself aware about the fact that because of bts only kpop has gained such wild recognition, not only k pop but korean culture also. Like earlier we all had no idea about what South Korea was. We were a little bit aware about it because of disputes with North Korea. So now people all around the world are very interested in k pop, k beauty, k drama etc. People want to come visit South Korea, students want to study in South Korea . I think the government should reconsider their decision because bts is literally bringing billion of dollars and popularity to south korea. 2 years of serving in army literally means that no songs from there side and maybe if there are exempted then their popularity can raise far more in 2 years🤔🤔

[@sen7167]

If bts join military , they will be in the “army”

[@fatoumataceesay8007]

😂😂

[@sassyraccoon4700]

ingeniously

[@singularitiny]

Wow omg no wayyyy

[@serenity8699]

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[@Natsu-px8ep]

😂

[@engteumoaroharmy8296]

"As a South Korean young adult, mandatory military service is a must and as i said repeatedly, I am ready to oblige whenever the coutry calls upon me. When the time comes and there's a calling. We actually talks about this a lot and all of us are ready to serve." -Jin

[@madhulikaw2198]

That's it if our idols are ready to serve we are ready for them Yes it will hurt without one of them

[@emmaculminas2816]

They are really role models😪👏

[@celtopaz711]

@@emmaculminas2816 yup. However most of young Armys are crying as and giving farewell messages. As od their idols will die or will never comeback. Booo

[@milfsrhot]

@@celtopaz711 they're not going to die💀

[@hecatelim8040]

Jusy report this channel.. they're trying to ruin bts reputation.

[@gavinhuang4521]

So in Summary. BTS is ready to serve Department ministry of sports and Leisure wants them to be exempt. I am having chicken tonight

[@mm334]

I want some too

Their gov wants the US dollar they are pulling into their country, that's why there's a debate in the first place of whether they should serve in the military, because the amount of economical contribution towards their country with their fame significantly outweighs the contribution if they were to serve in the army. It's just common sense, really. The government sees economical benefit. They want money. Ain't that hard to understand. Ps. I'm not an Army, just stating the obvious. People oughta chill tf out and analyze things from a different perspective cuz it's just that simple.

[@xena5290]

Poor chicken RIP

[@MiaAshley93]

Senri Shiki lol u really made that up to fit ur narrative. bts has stated that they wanted to serve, so just let them be. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@kitoken368]

@Senri Shiki just like most south korean men that don't really want to serve in military they just do it because it is mandatory and some do it because if they don't they will be ostracized by the people around them

[@TinyWolfxx]

REMEMBER: this conversation is totally fans and media. The seven men in BTS havent said anything about wanting exemption so don’t get opinionated about them personally. 👍

[@KonekoChan84]

This discussion is more between delusional Fans, Media and politicians .. there are a lot of fans out there that want them to experience life outside of being idols

[@btsot7btslegands719]

Even the fans don’t really care.

[@katya.g524]

Cindy Marie no, “delusional” fans don’t care.

[@KonekoChan84]

What i ment with delusional Fans is the delusional part of the fans .. I am an army myself

[@helhaj79]

@@KonekoChan84 no but even on twitter whenever there is an article discussing bts’s exemption, it’s always armys who are okay with it and saying that we shouldn’t have an opinion if we’re not korean. i’ve seen mainly fans of other groups saying “omg deserved” like they want bts to serve as a punishment (?). so i think that armys, in this case, are not as delusional as most people think.

[@berdyne]

Y'all stay talking about this as if BTS haven't already said they're willing to go. Most fans arent even upset, we saw this coming

[@izzy8246]

when was the last time you heard them speaking about this ? don't make stuff up. BTS has done amazing things for Korea's economy and the entire government said it themselves. they incredibly popular. I feel like they deserve to get exempted.

[@BabyItsSunny]

@@izzy8246 are you Korean? Are you? If you're not then STFU and plus this year they talked about it before MOTS7 was released. If you're not Korean you got no opinion

[@anasalazar5179]

@@izzy8246 bruh they have already stated they will doesn’t matter when but even if they’re exempt they’re gonna go, get over it

[@xkaram_9558]

@@izzy8246 yeah but that doesn’t mean anything when it comes to war. yes their impact is huge but you can’t use your privilege not to go.

[@Hani-yj9yn]

@@izzy8246 no one decides for them, it’s their choice whatever happens as a result happens ㅋㅋㅋ

[@kirinkinkongkoy3510]

12:59 It's painful to hear when he said "My life is important too but this makes me think that my life is not as important as BTS" I understand him because as you can hear their statements not everybody wants to go to military but because they are not rich and famous, they have to go but BTS wants to be enlisted, so that's good to hear.

[@Busha69]

but this is also suggesting bts were born rich and famous....no...they worked very very hard to get where they are right now.

[@RomajaneAbrenio]

@@Busha69 true

[@lalalalaloopssi3421]

@@Busha69 yes, but what his trying to say, that if they are rich and famous they can be exempted, if not you have to suffer for 2 years.

[@Busha69]

@@lalalalaloopssi3421 again, they wouldn't get exempted for being rich and famous...they would get exempted for bringing prestige to their country...which is something that's already in law and people get exemption based on it...in fact because bts are too famous, they won't give them the exemption :/ (but the lawmakers still recognise they are going against their own law and it's because of bts they changed the drafting law this month). Everyone just sees the "rich and famous" as if they didn't work hard for years ,in a way none of the men in the video did...and they still do work incredibly hard. There is a reason why many idols do incredibly well in the military...unlike the bed warmers in mommy's house, they are used to ridiculous schedules, barely any sleep and huge physical and mental strain. No one is stopping you from becoming notable sportsman or an artist and performer...everyone has a fair chance, bts also came up from the very bottom...but yeah, you gotta work hard for it, not for year and a half, not 2 years but for way way longer. And I guess that's not what most of the people are willing to do.

[@legendkoala380]

rich and famous? I don’t kinda agree with your statement. It isn’t because they are rich and famous 😅 it is because of their achievements.. Please don’t make it sound like they are too privileged to be exempted. But that doesn’t mean I am in favour for those people who thinks BTS should be exempted, I don’t actually have the right to say my opinion regarding this since I am no Korean but for me I would still think it’s unfair if BTS were got to be exempted and feel sad on behalf of these people. Regardless of what you did and who you are, it shouldn’t stop you from serving your country. But that’s all, I think they are not exempted and knowing BTS members said it themselves that they want to serve their country then that is better.

[@ijbol_official]

The faster they go tho the better. I just want all 7 members to go at the same time and return back as a full BTS

[@Kt-cn2rq]

Exactly if all go two years and they be back if the company would be smart enough.

[@RomajaneAbrenio]

Yeah they can make a faster comeback.

[@justafangirl7984]

@@Kt-cn2rq But sending them all together is a risky move.

[@Mikasuar]

Lol

[@KpopGrandma]

@@justafangirl7984 sincerely curious why it's a risky move for all members to go together? Is it because they might lose their popularity?

[@wolfxx1155]

Fact: BTS never said that they wanted to be exempted so let's clear that. Even as an ARMY, I don't think they should be exempted either because they'll be treated unfairly otherwise. The govt and agency should come up with an alternative of letting all 7 of them serve together considering the money they bring to the economy. That'd mean only two years off and they can still continue with their fame post. I don't know, it seems like the best option to me but my opinion doesn't matter.

[@TheGamerAdventurersX]

maybe a deferment for 1/2 years to make most of the current trends favouring their style of music and band, after that they would all be enlistees

[@bandanasaikia6048]

Whats ARMY?

[@wolfxx1155]

@@TheGamerAdventurersX sure. But i feel their economy will take a major hit anyways, we're talking about few trillion wons

[@wolfxx1155]

@@bandanasaikia6048 its what the fanbase of BTS is called.

[@ninabellenathania5705]

Yes 7 of them doing it together is the best choice for me too i agree

[@ezzz42]

Bravo! This is just wondeful. What work! The interviewer asked direct straight forward questions. All of the men were polite, eloquent, rational and bright with well thought out responses. You can see the issue is a passionate one and theyve discussed and thought about it many times.

[@hellogrmc]

Agree!!!!💜

[@malloryg4251]

Yes! I was very impressed with their thoughtful responses, and the reporter asked great questions.

[@dlsrb1415]

I personally served the 21 months in the military as infantry. The whole point of the military service is just that; to serve the country. This comes in many forms; combat, R&D, data analysis, tactics and much more. Military Exception is given to those who can serve or have served in a way that brings honor and a great level of service to the country which is why athletes on the world class level and exceptionally brilliant minds are given exception. Similarly, BTS, in a way, have served and honored the country in ways no one in the entire 5000 year history of Korea has ever done . In this extremely rare case, I think they have earned to be except. Will this open to more exceptions to artist and singers? let's discuss this when another BTS level person or group appears if it ever happens

[@eha3060]

Yes correct🎉

[@anudin2873]

exacTLY

[@sr4068]

Well said😊👍

[@icedamericanoh7713]

exactly. very well said

[@sam34201]

Yes

[@bloomoon2016]

“I’m careful about speaking about this, but I believe it is only natural to accept the mandatory military duty, and I will go when I receive a draft notice, no matter when that is," - jin at the mots7 press conference

[@beggy1973]

That is why I think Big Hit should stop fighting the government on this issue. The guys already said that they would serve when they are aummoned to do so. They just make them look bad. In top of that, with the injuries they have had over the years, they will probably just do dutues similar to Zico' that I believe is a counselor or something like that. They should be ok. I think if they are excemot Korea will be looking at a riot, because it is not fair to rest of the men in their country.

[@bloomoon2016]

@@beggy1973 when did bighit fight the government??? It's always the big politicians bringing it up. Bh has always stayed quiet about this issue.

[@Elysiannie]

@@beggy1973 FOR YOUR INFORMATION!!!! BIGHIT DIDN'T MADE THIS A BIG DEAL CAUSE FOR BTS THEY WANTED TO GO.. IT IS ONLY THOSE PEOPLE WHO MADE THIS A BIG DEAL.. ESPECIALLY THOSE REPORTER WHO KEEP ON TALKING ABOUT THAT AND MAKING ARTICLES ABOIT EXEMPTION. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BIGHIT AND BTS. SO STOP SPREADING WRONG INFORMATIONS.. YOU ARE JUST MAKING THINGS BIGGER. LOL

[@bxddieyoongi6046]

@@beggy1973 i agree with you if the boys said they are willing to go why go through all the trouble but then again the band is at risk but i’ll still support each and everyone of them 😔❤️💖

[@arzoochoithramani6633]

Conscription in S.K. is one of the, if not the most, undesirable yet inevitable thing. I don’t think anyone would like to experience the battlefield, but I can’t imagine world peace being achieved any time soon, so it is the logical thing to do, even if it is against Human Rights. The issue is with armys all over the world; they just aren’t ready to let go, and they never will be. BTS is very personal to many people, and possible loss and disbandment is one of their biggest fears. Exemption would mean that there wouldn’t be a risk of seperation for a very long time. Maturity requires more of a logical viewpoint than an emotional one.

[@cheesydrippin]

Me coming here to check the fire comments but everyone just giving out their opinions in full paragraph formal writing

[@baeyabee]

lmao same

[@ofentsemusi4422]

Yeh same😂😂

[@roie5336]

Right like idk why anyone isnt crying cus like if they have to go away for the military I'm gonna cry

[@vanichan6140]

😂

[@bts_ikon6589]

davitza julien it’s Armys being mature.

[@jinnieneutron7572]

The thing is I don’t think they’d accept exemption even if they were granted it. The boys themselves have said when the time comes, they’ll enlist. Period. There’s nothing more to discuss. Also the only thing the government is discussing is delaying the enlistment for a year or two, not outright exemption. I don’t understand why so many people think they’re trying to get exempt.

[@Dgghjut]

For real I'm getting tired of this 😑 they trying speak on behalf of BTS 🤡

[@Dgghjut]

@Ahram Kwon-Foo isn't it the same by DOING this INTERVIEWS people are making A BIG DEAL OUT OF IT 🙄 The way I see it.. it's the same by trying to speak on behalf of BTS even they themselves didn't said a word about wanting to be EXEMPTED.

[@majju96]

I personally believe the gov will let them serve differently, like that guy that said, he also served differently, maybe the gov si considering that idk.

[@Nikki_fan]

Some people just outright lack comprehension.

[@jinnieneutron7572]

@Ahram Kwon-Foo I wasn’t really talking about asian boss here. I was talking mainly about the comments.

[@theoddoneout8634]

And irony is BTS has never ever said they want to get exemption. They want to do it like any other male in Korea but its the government that gave extension.

[@StanDreamcatchers]

Yep

[@cloudsjisoo1832]

they still can just go if they want but they dont so you know :(

[@Ray-kc6wf]

@@cloudsjisoo1832 I think its not that easy because they probably lose interested of "casual" fans, obviously army will wait but bighit cares about money not some loyal fans.

[@ariitannie]

Yaa

[@R1Neey123]

@@cloudsjisoo1832 They are bringing respect and worldwide recognition of Korea with their music. They are Korea's shining stars. I don't think that the govt would want them to go. They are doing great favor for their country already. They have been the first korean band to win so many international awards. Hope they win grammys soon.

[@shriyaagrawal8715]

13:06 "this makes me think that my life is not as much as important as BTS" this line hurts even if you are a BTS fannn

[@Jo_327]

So true :(

[@BtsArmy-oo2hi]

That's hurt

[@Iovia]

Yep

[@shriyaagrawal8715]

@@universestar1875 hey i was a bit late to see your reply but after reading your reply i wanna say you that you don't really need to compare others to you , the truth is south korea is obsessed with white skin and skinny body but you gotta know the number of the plastic surgeons are also the most in south korea! You know everyone in this earth lives with insecurity but don't let them overpower your confidence!🙂

[@j-dopeatyourservice5713]

Ouch

[@nviscalling5752]

Ive been wondering about the korean perspective on this, thank you Asian Boss!

[@ARMYFOREVER-ez5wc]

This actually isn't the first video they've done regarding this topic but there's one from 2018 if you want to check it out

[@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj]

Me too!

[@Nootlest]

BigBang didn't soooo why should BTS?

[@ARMYFOREVER-ez5wc]

@@Nootlest Big Bang were certainly successful in their own ways back in their day. In comparison to BTS what can you say Big Bang did that would have had made them qualified for an exemption?

[@xersusfilms]

Same

[@jenniferjeason3641]

Well, BTS never stated that they wouldn't serve their country. When the right time comes they will serve. They had already announced that there will be no military exemption for BTS. But it's good to hear the natives perspective about this.

[@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj]

I agree and I know about this topic too well. The military is not child’s play but is not a death sentence either.

[@PrograError]

it's just a natural question imo, they are super popular right now, so the company has natural interest in requesting the exemption and also the natural hope of their fans, the ARMY (?). tho the military service is a serious issue in korea, so much that kim jong kook, the "muscleman" of Running Man (a korean variety show), when it was known that he served in the public service there was a huge uproar about it. it's said that the back issue was the reason why he ended up serving in the public service, which also got way serious as the years goes and also the years in Running Man, so much so he had several surgery for the back and missing appearances including during the Macau/ Hong Kong episodes .

[@tytube3001]

many of the BTS members were actually born as women, in Korea you don't need to serve if you are now transgender

[@oliviaaurora3954]

@@tytube3001 what NO

[@xiahnti]

@@yeontan3576 why the fook would they disband??????????????? MANY other groups have dealt with enlistment and survived just fine afterwards, even stronger than ever actually because all the fake fans drop off and it makes everything more pleasant when they're back together!

[@bangtwicey8184]

This should not be a topic, they said they are ready to go , most of us are actually not upset , we saw this coming

[@bangtwicey8184]

@Reagan Steig yeah ik that already but i am tryna say that there should be not tons of video about this

[@genneyzheng6008]

@@bangtwicey8184 Well, since this discussion concerns the men of South Korea, there is more complexity to the situation that us, fans, will never know. Therefore, it makes sense that this channel is trying to get an insight from people who are more related to this issue. Also, we are just fans, so it is not our place to talk about how we feel on this serious subject.🙂

[@namjoonie936]

@@genneyzheng6008 also many of those talking about this in the comments arent even korean we literally have no reason to have an opinion

[@jasmyn5924]

@@namjoonie936 You don't need to be Korean to have an opinion, of course, from experience their opinion is more valid, but that does not prevent other people from presenting their opinions and imagining themselves in the place of others, we are all free to express our opinions, unless we are in a dictatorship of speaking place

[@namjoonie936]

@@jasmyn5924 you can have an opinion but that dosnt mean it needs to be shared its not are community to interject

[@evelyngarza3931]

Honestly i feel like if they don’t go to the army, they will get a lot of hate

[@cyer_]

Agreed and that too by their own country

[@moonchild5412]

they are getting hates by just breathing so ofc thy will get hate for this

[@theshowshow3719]

I feel they would get hate too if they don’t go. Fans of other idol group would probably think it’s not fair if they’re bias or idol group have to serve and bts don’t. It should be voluntary not mandatory service.

[@MsAZYou]

@@theshowshow3719 its their countries policy. So you dont have a say about the issue.

[@praem9597]

By following measures that are based on lies and against human rights like wearing masks, thats when they should hate themselves.

[@jtetsuya]

This was a good mix of people's views and they also justified their reasoning fairly well. It was a little sad to hear about the thoughts of reunification having changed, but it also makes sense. Thanks for providing this interview!

[@denomi39]

That more and more don't want reunification as time passes? That's not really something new, nor should it be sad to hear. It's really only the old timers' generation that wants it.

[@CasusBelli711]

@@denomi39 agreed

[@jtetsuya]

@@denomi39 yeah, that's why it makes sense for the newer generations to have a more realistic view, since they don't really have much of a connection with those in the North anymore, so it doesn't really justify always being prepared for being at war with them. There just seemed to be a little bit of a sad tone to me because they still seem to respect how the older generations might feel.

[@sweetmaryz]

DeWolx It would be nice to hear that north koreans are free. And live democracy imo.

[@kykale]

@@jtetsuya it's so different from Germany when families could see each other again after the wall fell down.

[@tammy2609]

Here’s the thing. I don’t think BTS wanting to be exempted is the issue here. It’s clear that they said they will partake in it and they never said they want to be exempted. The issue was probably brought up again because if you see it in the business perspective, it’s complicated. They’re at the top right now, they contribute so much earnings for the Korean government, and is a big impact in Korean tourism. If they got enlisted and have a break, their hype will undeniably goes down and affects the market. With that being said, exempted or not, they will still go to the military. I don’t think the boys are the type that will abuse their privilege.

[@TRULYKITE]

they pledged to enlist when called and the hype about them will never die down, army can assure that.

[@JamiJason]

Usually being out of the spotlight for awhile makes your hype drop. Some bands that were popular just a couple years ago, are completely unheard of now. Just because a certain fan base won’t forget them, doesn’t mean most people won’t. Military service is a several year process. Things change over the span of two years. I mean look at 2020 for instance. It hasn’t even been a full year yet but nearly everything has changed.

[@angrajseebaruth5221]

I don't think they want to go. But to maintain a positive public image, they said they always expected to go. But deep down, they probably hoped to be exempt.

[@adriencloud2130]

@@TRULYKITE I don't know about Korea but in America it would be goodbye BTS and hello (insert new band name) theres no way they will be as popular state side after their service. culture moves fast its naïve to think they will last.

[@tammy2609]

TRULYKITE Army would probably keep them alive, that’s for sure. But if they went on a full break, they will have no new songs and there will be no new sales for albums. I doubt a lot of people would buy the old albums twice. And concerts will be non existent. It’s either the remaining members continued making songs, or the boys focused on their individual careers for the time being.

[@tylermortis8856]

Not to really stray away from the whole 'BTS' topic, but look at SHINee. Minho just came back and everyone was excited to hear "SHINee's back" so if BTS enlist wouldn't it be a bigger come back to hear "hello we are BTS"

[@fjeepers]

And now Taemin is going - reportedly. From May 2021 to Nov 2022.

[@nathandrake5504]

And the fact that there was always a super junior member in military for 10 years. From 2009 to 2019 lol

[@sopekooya]

@@sadeepthigamage5298 no one said bts isn’t going, it’s the government who’s extending it. Bts has stated they will fulfill their duties. It’s 2nd gen stans who turn it around and try and make it seem like bts aren’t going when bts has stated multiple times that they would go when the time comes. The government is extending it because they have more influence (especially economic wise) to Korea compared to any other group.

[@kP-mx1sl]

I personally think Bts popularity will go down when they serve. Sure, they will still be popular amongst eastern crowd but not so much in the western I think. They are still at their peak and still growing. They are known globally but still not there, like, they are there but still not yet. Idk how to explain this properly. They still have quite a long way to go. So if one goes to serve, I think their popularity will wane esp when they are at their peak.

[@marilainedictan4851]

@@sadeepthigamage5298 first you can't really compare other idol groups to bts because bts has done way more than almost idol groups, they brought 4 billion dollars into south korea , they are also responsible for spreading the korean wave and culture and is also one of the main reasons people travel to South korea witch also helps out with the economy and second bts never said they didn't want to go to the military

[@leslieroldan4207]

They should all go together and get it over with. And come back stronger, Armys will be waiting anxiously.

[@daniellacastro1210]

I was just thinking that. 😄 If they all go together it’ll be done before anyone knows it and they’ll come out together and get back to where they left off: making great music and thus adding positivity to others.

[@hv0506]

@@misst3ry_YT i completely agree, i was thinking the same thing. if they at different times then each of them will be able to do other things that interest them. also bighit could spend more time on other current and future group, not they don’t already. but i do think that waiting 5-7 years for all of them to complete their enlistment is really long. maybe they could go in groups of two or three, it’s unlikely it’ll happen but a girl can dream lol.

[@hv0506]

@@soe9600 that’s very true. and actually yoongi and jin have 3 months apart 😂, i find it kinda funny that yoongi even questioned why he called jin “hyung” bc their only 3 months apart.

[@shakuntaladombale2726]

Exactly. Even if they aren't exempted, atleast they should allow them to go together. Just imagine the feelings of army's the day when they be coming back together after 2 years. I m getting goosebumps. And till they comeback we all be having more work to do i.e to chart their every single song💜💜💜

[@lilac_dream_team]

No way that’d be terrible for their careers the others have to hold the fort down while the older members go then when its their turn the older ones will do the same

[@kathleenkaye9116]

Guys, don't get mad to the people who express their opinion. They are not a fan nor familiar much with BTS. Also, they just read or hear fragments of news or ideas about the issue. So don't expect them to understand the story. Let's just respect their opinion and hope that instead of exemption, BTS will be given an option to be enlisted together. 😊

[@itsmethejaeger7563]

Kayessi케이씨 yes and it’s also an unbiased opinion and, I’m not sure if it’s all of them, but they do talk about them enlisting in the past too

[@kathleenkaye9116]

@@itsmethejaeger7563 @Alex Iglopas let's just understand their opinion because they experienced it no matter its in the past or present. It left them a big scar for some reason. As an ARMY, I also don't want BTS to be enlisted but if being exempted means they would receive bad feedback and critism about it even if the boys are open to being enlisted then I would rather accept the fact. And rather hope that they would be enlisted together. Let's just be positive and be open-minded, we are not on their shoes to know how they feel about enlistment. 😊 Spread love ❤️💕

[@manuelmateo3392]

I doubt being a fan would change their opinion much on the issue. Personal feelings about people you don't even know shouldn't cloud matters about civic duty, if that is relevant to the individual's interests.

[@kathleenkaye9116]

@@manuelmateo3392 i agree with you. Personal opinion and interest really depends on the person itself. What I mean to my comment is on the area about their statement saying, "BTS wants to avoid being enlisted due to the fact that their at its peak of their success". Coz only fans know the fact that BTS is open to the idea of being enlisted and respects the decision of the government no matter what. 😊

[@manuelmateo3392]

@@kathleenkaye9116 Agreed.

[@childofda80s]

It’s very interesting to see others’ opinions and the guy in black was very well spoken. However, I kind of wish they would have mentioned that BTS has never said they want to be exempted. In fact, they have said time and time again that they will be honored to serve when the time comes. It’s other people who bring this up often. Very nice interview.

[@cryingintothesunset1492]

I think they didn't said anything because this seems like a well known fact. Like said in the tags, it's a street debate. They are just speculating the male citizens thoughts on the topic.

[@ppjskh]

This is a street interview with random male citizens, so I doubt they’d know anything about BTS or their stance on serving in the military.

[@syalalafalalala825]

They didnt mention BTS have never said about exemption because simply these guys dont even follow BTS.... And of course i dont think there would be a man idol dare to tell and speak about exemption. It's such a sensitive issue for Korean men.

[@AishwaryaD29]

The men being interviewed are really logical and respectful at the same time. They have proved that there are two side of the same coin.

[@smileyk767]

Time stamp

[@Yangi_0606]

I don’t know why this is still an issue. BTS themselves have said that they will be enlisting when the time comes. I’m sure BigHit is also already ahead of time, and is already planning this out. Let’s just see what happens, and trust BigHit and the boys.

[@sevenkombuchas1244]

Thank you for this. Couldn't agree more 👏💜

[@leezaelizabethabraham203125]

I am sure BH has it planned...

[@vindesky8091]

Bighit already have TXT to replace them. No one will notice

[@leezaelizabethabraham203125]

@@vindesky8091 i dont think so...bcuz BTS is more than 90%of their income....and its not like they can simply switch to the other grp..

[@vindesky8091]

@@leezaelizabethabraham203125 they can't? They already are. You see how twice being replaced by itzy? It's the same...

[@CutleryWonder]

The issue is actually that there are any exceptions at all. If no-one was exempt then there'd be no issue but because there are SOME exceptions it opens the discussion of who and why. You can easily argue that the justifications for the other exemptions are weak compared to the impact of BTS and that's why there's a conversation.

[@karlafrancis8471]

That's an excellent point. Some of the achievements and recognition that the people who were exempted for would pale in comparison to bts'. So I understand y it's constantly being brought up. However, the government repeatedly bringing up the discussion pushes a lot of hate to the group and causes a divide among the ppl. I think it would be best if they allowed them to enlist together to shorten the separation period

[@requiem3861]

@Carl John i agree with u and here all r trying to justify that bts didnt wanted to make an exempt cuz they are so called army lmao

[@clsxtae.795]

@Carl John r u dumb or just jokin? "Just famous" U litteraly are SO ignorant

[@clsxtae.795]

@Carl John As of 2019, BTS is purportedly worth more than $4.65 billion to South Korea's economy each year, or 0.3 percent of the country's GDP. BTS attracted one in every 13 foreign tourists that visited South Korea and was cited as one of the key acts boosting global music sales to $19 billion in 2018. The fact that this is 2019 and BTS popularity and success doubled this year says it all.

[@kawosdhdos]

@@FqYIwgsiRW2MaTDc but is it fair? Not really.

[@tifannyraghubir1484]

If they’ve seen BTS exemption issue on the news then how come they didn’t see when BTS themselves have said multiple times that they want to serve their country.

[@anabeatrizbarreto33]

Because that's what the midia doesn't show. They want to discuss their lives without them...

[@lachi8242]

Slight correction, they never stated they wanted to, but that they were willing to

[@deadleaves7293]

They never said that tho. They said when duty calls they will serve, not that they want to do it. Don't misinform people.

[@min5963]

Exactly. The boys said so that they want to serve their country

[@yetlele2912]

PREACH !!!!

[@sejalyadav8680]

"I want them to go together and come together fit and fine " I'll try to calm myself by listening their songs during that period.🥺

[@arnabchatterjee6501]

Exactly, there's a lot of content but I'll wait for them.

[@cmgordillor]

I’ll wait for them too 💜💜💜

[@lalapozada7834]

Maybe they can pre record stuff and bighit can release maybe every few months to keep us on our toes. I hope they all go together at once but if they don’t then I guess we will enjoy some solo music from them

[@icy.diamond]

I’m not a fan, but BTS said they’d enlist when their time came. What’s the problem?

[@cassandraanilom7074]

Some kpop fans says that they didn’t want to enlist but they don’t say about that. The half of the goverment officials want them to enlist and others are not. Bts is one of the money maker in sk. Kpopfans not from sk making it bigdeal.

[@k.m4411]

@Estela Lopez ?? He didn’t say Mexico foo

[@shhrhzrmn3193]

just let them go enlist ,then its settle ..

[@honeypoppps]

thnk u so much i dont where people heard that they dont want to go they just want to talk bad bout bts

[@maytheforcebewithu792]

@@cassandraanilom7074 those kpop fans gotta be new here, if they have ever wondered how much gained the country got from 2nd idop even they saved korea from crisis. And bts say they would enlist and the govern havent thought that they would pass, those fans r such a ..

[@michelecfeehan]

This is a bit misleading, the Government is looking into an extension not an exemption. The rules put into place were prior to the existence of K Pop. The new rules would also apply to all male K pop artists who make a huge cultural, social, economic and world wide impact for Korea. I think for news articles and news outlets to fail to make the distinction between exempt and extend is truly bad journalism and unfair reporting. The members of BTS have no desire to run away from their military obligations and want to serve. Please report the facts fairly.

[@yikes6532]

But they would have to create a clear criteria for what constitutes major impacts made by kpop artists that would allow them to be exempt from military service. If they are going to change the rules to allow exemptions/extensions for kpop artists, they need to make it clear. Which, like the men in the video said, could be difficult to make criteria for. Groups like NCT, GOT7, Monsta X, and Stray Kidz (groups that have not served any military time) can all be considered groups that helped globalize Korea yet none of them are as nearly big as BTS. Would the change apply to theses groups as well? Or, is it only for groups that beat/create records like the Beatles did in the 60"s?

[@michelecfeehan]

@@yikes6532 Great questions! Yes, clear criteria is what they are currently debating. The misconception is that this is being based on Awards and music records being broken, that actually is only a part of what is generating these talks in Parliament. Bts generates 3.6 billion dollars to the South Korean GPA each year, the 10 year predicted economic impact is $49.8 billion. That generates to the creation of jobs, creation of small businesses for citizens of South Korea. Increase of Tourism 796.00 visitors visit South Korea annually through BTS's promotions which is 1.7% or 1 in every 13 visitors, generating and promoting cultural exchange. " Where BTS had a compelling impact According to the latest report, BTS has an effect on the following consumer goods: Clothing = $2.026 billion, Cosmetics = $2.8 billion, and food = $3.96 billion.These are considered important exports of South Korea." Other areas include, Increase of South Korea’s BOP (balance of payments which is the total economic transactions between a country and the world) Thanks to BTS, the investment stocks of the entertainment companies improved and they are focusing on the American and European markets., The Growth of Korean Hallyu Wave. BTS lead a 22% increase of Korean Hallyu fans worldwide in 2018 (Korean Hallyu means the increase in popularity of Korean music, films, TV shows and language). Over 1 thousand worldwide charity campaigns impacting have been generated by BTS , and their fans. These campaigns are global impacting millions of people. Their UNICEF campaign. BTS Connect a global public art project involving 22 artists across five cities: London, Berlin, Buenos Aires, Seoul and New York. Quote, "according to the "Connect, BTS" website, the project has been developed by international curators who "resonated with BTS' philosophy" -- and a statement suggests the project is about connecting people in a world where people often feel isolated and "alone with their devices." all with free admittance making it possible for many people to enjoy or be introduced to art. So these are a few of the many reasons they are debating the extension, it simply has so much more to it than just winning a BBMA, or getting number 1 on the billboard chart, or beating records. It has everything to do with the impact to the Nation and it's people. Again, thanks for your thoughtful question!!

[@laurenmiller4824]

I think it’s kinda weird that people keep pushing or talking about exemptions or extensions when BTS have said time and time again that even if they got an exemption they would still go. 🤷🏼‍♀️ which to me says more about their character. As people who have a huge cultural, social, and economic impact, they aren’t backing down.

[@michelecfeehan]

@@laurenmiller4824 Your right, and that is why the Korean govt is not talking about exemptions AT ALL, they are only looking at a short term extension till the age of 30 instead of 28. There is no doubt that BTS wants to and will serve.

[@yikes6532]

@@michelecfeehan Thank you!! I really like the information you got about this. I was genuinely curious about how they were discussing this topic. These are great discussions they are having, but I still think it will be difficult to make a decision on how to implement a rule involving kpop groups. From what I’ve seen, BTS is unlike anything that has come out of South Korea. I don’t have any hard opinions on whether or not anyone should be getting exempt/extensions from their military service. I am curious to see, that if they will be changing rules for military exemptions/extensions, how much of the criteria will be based on the effect BTS has had on their country. This definitely opens up a wide array of conversations the South Korean government will have to discuss as kpop and Korean culture become more globalized.

[@krieayreen]

BTS' themselves said they're going. Some people are just using them to gain something. Tbh.

[@lunarialoonatic]

@@bluenova4703 look it up. Jin said it himself that he’s not exempting himself. He will go when his time comes because it’s his duty to serve

[@ejenshanebelandres3568]

Yeah true...btw in the thumbnail where they put their hands in their chest....where is that...i mean did they attend something??.

[@leagimez7774]

Thats how life works, its just like bts using us armys to gain money.. You can't blame them.

[@thebiglarge532]

@@bluenova4703 Bruh you think you know everything about BTS when you don't even know that they TALKED about a very important and touchy topic. They said that they want to serve for their country

[@orul826]

@@bluenova4703 yes they did . They said when duty calls they’ll serve . Jin was even asked bout this on the bh press conference.

[@elie8680]

0:37 the guy in the background on the right is me when my mom asks to take a family picture

[@gennevylls9472]

I'm dying I'm surprised no one is talking about that💀💀🤣

[@useless3997]

That was the first thing I noticed and wondering if anybody else did🤣

[@kimdawson932]

oh my! Its the first thing that catch my attention 🤣

[@tallbeauty]

I didn't notice it until you said something. LOL Now I can't stop laughing. LOL

[@Sun.ce.214]

not an army but I'm sure bts themselves wouldn't want to be excused from the serving. however comma if bts were to be excused I could understand why. they've brought millions of dollars in revenue to Korea and contributed greatly to Korea's tourism and so much more. when you add up what bts has done for Korea and an athlete winning first place is its about the same to me so bts getting an exemption isn't that crazy when you think about it of course I'm not a Korean citizen so i really don't have the right to even have an opinion to begin with. but at the end of the bts has more than solidified they're place in the music industry. they could disappear for 20 years, drop an album and it would still sell millions so they have absolutely nothing to worry about when it comes to being gone for 2 years. regardless I wish them nothing but the best

[@kimjack1000]

Really? I'm sure they would. I'm in favor of it myself. Or just have them serve... later, much later after their prime. Have BTS go to military at age 40. Same argument for athletes. Have a 37 yo Son Heung Min go to the military for 2 years then.

[@rvpstudioscanada3991]

Jin said that he is ready to serve.

[@chutehsike260]

@@kimjack1000 umm.. no. Jin said it straight from his mouth. "When it's my time to serve, I will go, because it's my duty." Jimin loves his country so much, I doubt he'd want to be excused from something so important. And suga also said in his mixtape about the military exemption that everyone's talking about it except them, and that everyone needs to shut up. Literally what you're saying is selfish. Did you not listen to the orange shirt guy, as to why this 2 year military enlistment is so important for them even if they don't want to go? And why its important they go sooner than later?

[@rvpstudioscanada3991]

@@kimjack1000 I think the cut off is age 35.

[@geman741]

@@kimjack1000 sorry thats not how the military works

[@cheybae1193]

It’s always awesome to hear other people’s take on this issue. Either way I’ll always support them. And what ever happens I’ll be here.

[@crozraven]

this is more about the people who get a lot of profits from BTS refuse the military serving & want them to get exempt, otherwise they will lose money for years to come.

[@htukittyikiigb2298]

That's true

[@ablack012993]

Exactly. The company does not want to lose money/momentum/popularity while BTS is gone. They want to keep making more money and staying famous. BTS should be proud to serve in the military for their country and not try to make exceptions.

[@Karen-ib4wf]

@@ablack012993 BTS and BigHit never asked for exemptions. On the contrary, other entertainment companies and politicians were the proponents of the appeal.

[@karlafrancis8471]

@@ablack012993 bts are proud to serve their country and it's not the company that wants the exemption, it's the government. The same ppl who you say are profiting from bts is the country itself and that's y it's even a discussion because bts brings in a lot of revenue and tourism for s.korea

[@mimiaahh]

@@ablack012993 bts n BigHit have NEVER asked from exemption. Other companies on the other hand tho have legit had MEETINGS of bts getting exempt WITHOUT the actual group or company, BigHit, involved💀

[@princesamarulina]

I love the way Korean people can expresses such deep thoughts, and so honestly. And don't think this kind of interview would have happen like this in my country.

[@itz_aljk2338]

*_I mean, Taylor Swift was inactive for almost 2 years before Reputation but she's still slaying. Directioners still want 1D to come back even if its 5 years now since their disbandment. With that kind of popularity and fanbase, it wouldn't be hard for BTS to be inactive for just 2 years if they serve together. And i'm still patiently waiting for Rhianna._*

[@nimahazam3727]

All of them will go at separate times which will add up to 7 or so years until they’re whole again. Also I feel like it’s different for kpop idk why. Maybe cus it’s not just singing it’s also dancing visuals the whole concept and the members will get to the age of idol retirement. Plus they need to start their personal lives (marriage ect.) which is something idols can do only after their careers end.

[@Fazzytravels]

Its not about BTS, but the country is thinking about their economic impact. Especialluy covid hits korea hard right now. And BTS is the only group that producing profit for korea right now. So i think we just better stay silent about this.

[@Fazzytravels]

Aurora Wang then tell me other groups that brings in 5 billion to their country. Then again, it doesn’t affects u anyway

[@MzFoRi3]

But right now bts is at their top game, recognition internationally, it would be weird of they suddenly go mia for 2 years, and would they bounce back right to the top afterwards?

[@Fazzytravels]

MzFoRi3 they will bounce back but the problem is the empty space of 2 years probably for their country’s economy, but probably bighit knows what to do

[@minyunkie.p5086]

That's why people need to listen to the news or something, bts never said they don't want to serve the military, they said when the times comes they are ready to serve 🥴bts didn't ask for an exemption it's just the govt don't want to lose a million of dollars.

[@Trkive]

Unpopular opinion: they also would never say they would like to be exempt. Of course they have to go if not exempt. This narrative would shame them to go even IF the government gives the exemption. Normalize not involving the artist in the decision but rather giving voice to the governing entity responsible for such a decision.

[@steve00alt70]

Thats old fashioned ideology

[@ltudu8919]

But obviously they won't say it in public

[@vcwloves9864]

@@Trkive This is exactly what I was going to say.

[@nataliedolak339]

as an fan of BTS i also think that they should do service, and it would be shamed for them not to go, i also think they should all go at the same time so they can come back together, the fans will try to be very active during their service. ☺️

[@MsMinimagnum]

Please be clear. BTS and their fans NEVER asked for an exemption. Hope this conversation will stop.

[@guerainnit18]

There are a lot of international army who are saying they want exemption. I really don’t think it’s their place to be asking for such things since it’s not even their country.

[@shivaniparmar1771]

BTS didn't... But a lot of their fans did... And seeing how much they've done for their country I think it's only fair that they're exempted

[@pinkcherries]

​@@guerainnit18 Really? Because everything I've seen on Twitter is I-ARMYs saying that they'll support BTS no matter what and if you're not Korean then you don't have a say in this. But that's just what I've seen and I completely agree with them.

[@shivaniparmar1771]

I get it's not us international fans' place to ask for exemption, but we can't help but feel its upsetting... I was hesitant before to say this before but I do love the boys and what they've done for S. Ko. and for people all over the world...

[@pinkcherries]

​@@shivaniparmar1771 I agree. Of course I feel sad that they'll have to leave for two years (or one if their time is shortened) but unfortunately we don't have a say

[@chippark5680]

I am a BTS fan so I naturally will be pleased if they ended up getting exempted. However, I do agree with the guy in 5:40. BTS as huge as they are, they are performing as a private entity (HYBE) and not representing the country the way the athletes are. And also, them enlisting will be a huge statement- it spells equality and fairness as well as solidarity with all other Korean males. This is just my opinion.

[@jenniexx9528]

true

[@Mrguuud]

They won’t because the government won’t let them….. BTS brought billions of dollars to the Korean economy,revenue and alot of representation

[@doraaaa0613]

that is a logical statement but i think i disagree. you can put that on paper and have it make sense, but bts have impacted the spread of korean culture in a way that is on par or even higher than an athlete. sure, athletes go out into the world representing their country, but do athletes make people want to learn korean, visit korea and inspire international interest in korean culture in general? id say that very few do so, but millions upon millions of bts fans learn so much about korean culture and korean society through bts. that is invaluable impact, so id say that you can’t evaluate their impact based on just the fact that they are a private entity. speaking as someone who has learned so much about SK over the years through bts, you cannot compare an athlete to bts. they bring a very different kind of pride and prestige. but yes i agree that it would fair of them to enlist. i have no opinion regarding that as i am not korean but i think it would be fair, but in my opinion, if you are exempting athletes because of them winning gold medals and bringing prestige to the country, that same logic can be applied to bts. (very controversial take and i know i sound arrogant but if a korean man is fine with athletes getting exempted but not bts, id say it’s a bit unfortunate. i hope bts can get laurels from their country people for how much hard work they’ve put in to get to this point, and how much they’ve spread their culture to the world - whether bts enlist or not is not my problem, it’s just the principle of the matter) edit: oh i almost forgot but i have to say i do agree that bts are not just bts the artist, but their work involves the blood and sweat of other hardworking people as well. and that it’s ambiguous to exempt just the artist that carries the face of the “completed work” - it made me think. it’s more complex than that but again, on paper it makes complete sense

[@Whhhhhhhhhhho]

@@doraaaa0613 I served in the Korean military for 2 years and was discharged from the military service. To be honest, Koreans don't like BTS getting exemptions, and so do female fans. Many celebrities in Korea have been criticized for not going to the military, and the military is a very sensitive topic for Koreans, with celebrities who have been excluded from the military in an expedient way having difficulty even working in the entertainment industry. This is an example of singer Psy. Psy received many benefits that ordinary people did not receive as an entertainer, which was revealed after Psy was discharged from the military. Psy received a lot of criticism and was eventually forced to rejoin the army. I think the period of two years is very big, and people in Korea are going to the army at the expense of it. If BTS members do not join the military, it will cause a huge social impact, and other boy idol groups will argue about the standards for exemption from the military exemption. South Korea's defense minister said BTS members will join the military and there is no exception.

[@Whhhhhhhhhhho]

@@doraaaa0613 Also, if the military exemption is made without proper legislation, the controversy will grow out of control and BTS will have to live with the stigma for the rest of their lives even though they don't want to.

[@caramelsimon7472]

Actually BTS never stated that they wanted to be exempt. They're proudly waiting for their turn to serve their country and they're always willing to. It's just some of the people in their gov't opened the topic about their exemption.

[@rozhin6055]

@Chris archer is a disappointment. shut up.

[@kashitakhalate9116]

What if in their deep minds they want to exempt and do it later in time.... Your not living in their brain just casually i m asking we cant state anything

[@laura777selena]

@Zoey Blagrove If I'm not mistaken, Suga in one of his songs talks about it. And basically it says it's hell. Also, can you imagine if they had said they don't want to go? chaos. Obviously they had to lie. No man likes it.

[@zaddystar5473]

@Chris archer is a disappointment. don’t cry 😂😂😂

[@anotheryoutubeuser]

@@laura777selena What did SUGA say in one of his songs?

[@jinzzzxx]

They will enlist when the time comes. They're not avoiding anything, talking about what one can do for their country BTS did so much. I think this topic came up because of how BTS has impacted the SK economy.

[@noonyakaleka2098]

It's not just about the economy though. It's about SK image and sympathies. BTS is a world-wide phenomenon - their fans are actively engaging in world change. They contribute to the world because BTS is a good role model. BTS could be integral in creating and strengthening allies around the world. They have true influence. Influence I've never seen any athlete, olympic medalist, or classical artist ever have nor know how to wield!

[@norules7805]

"Since I'm a guy, I'm not too interested in them" *You don't need to be a girl to be*

[@LAMolly224]

IKR! Toxic masculinity!!!

[@norules7805]

I'm an ARMY and a blink. Yet I'm a guy. I came for their talents... And my girl Jisoo

[@LAMolly224]

@@norules7805 you da MVP bro!!!!

[@jamjamb123]

In the USA they act the same way about any kpop they think it’s only for kids and women . It’s sad I love my kpop though . Nice to meet you jissos husband I’m j-hope wife lol 😂

[@norules7805]

@@jamjamb123 haha Jhope's my bias in BTS...nice to meet you as well

[@nidhitodkar5114]

Korean citizens are truly well spoken... Even after being bts fan i still was able to understand their point of view and opinions. even some of them said they shouldn't be exempted, but they explained their opinion very well and when u think from their perspective it doesn't seem wrong.

[@shemaygo]

If only people express their opinions and oppositions like these men did, everyone will be at peace. Stating facts and experiences in coherent words rather than bullshitting and using of profanities during public comments is much more effective to prove a point. This video is very informative btw.

[@rcppcsk1589]

Well . . . Not really. Some of them said BTS are trying to get exempt when they have said themselves that if they are called they will gladly serve when the time comes. So it sounds to me like they're just repeating things they read on the news.

[@abcgirl2001]

@@rcppcsk1589 I see your point, but then again couldn’t it also be consider valuable information as it shows a very general perspective of the people or well at the least some of the men in South Korea. Although maybe not all they are saying is fact proven it shows that is what they believe and to some extent what the general public thinks or get as information. It portraits (again to some extent) what the media and news are informing the public and the effect it has on public opinion. Therefore I think is informative, maybe not in a traditional way but as a way to get news but to assess public opinion. Pd. This is just my interpretation and do not mean to invalidate yours, but rather show another perspective

[@somea6706]

The whole reason bts possibly getting a military exemption is because the Korean government is looking in to it, not some random people on the internet. The whole going to military is seen as serving the country and the people that get exempted are exempted because the government believes they served the country in another way e.g. the world cup soccer team. They also know that with all the money bts brought to the economy halting their progress suddenly will also affect the sk economy in a negative way (not a flopping negative way tho, just that the amount of money being brought in by bts will drop a lot). And like the first reply said some of these men aren't even educated on why the topic bts and exemption is a thing or else they would not have made some false statements. Those men are just as biased against the idea of bts getting exempted just like some people are biased with the idea of them getting a example.

[@808spicysushi]

Why the eff is this a topic for opinion? It’s not like BTS doesn’t want to go. It doesn’t matter because they are going anyway because that is what the country mandates, PERIOD.

[@Alexis-ln9iy]

The reason it’s a matter of opinion is because to government is considering exempting BTS from the military. The Korean public deserves to be heard out on whether or not they support that.

[@quadling3521]

It’s a topic of discussion because they, alone, have brought $5 billion (with a b) into the South Korean economy. That’s not how much they have earned themselves, that’s how much money they have brought into the country that is now recirculating in the economy. It is in South Korea’s economic interest for BTS to not take a hiatus while they are at the top of their popularity. However, mandatory military service and exemptions are sensitive issues amongst the population. If this wasn’t so, the government would have had them exempt already because of the economic benefit. It’s the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism who wants them (as well as eSports competitors) to be exempt.

[@Surftouka]

@@quadling3521 I'm not Korean nor a man, since it was them interviewed here. I think they should do their military service, no men should be excluded except for health reasons. However, maybe they could use their popularity, put them through the initial training...guess some call it boot camp; then have them serve as ambassadors across the world? They can have concerts but maybe more be expected of them? I read the actor Kim Bum (from Boys over Flowers as well as many other dramas) due to a degenerative arthritis disease, guess he couldn't do the normal service so he served as a Public Service Worker (not quite sure what that is-but I'm saying maybe with BTS they can meet somewhere in the middle?

[@betul3835]

@@Surftouka this makes sense

[@davidmung1320]

Lets all chill cause only time will tell if they do or don't serve, save the convo til then ;)

[@tragediesrequiem1]

BTS has said they'll serve when the time comes. But this issues of military exemption keeps being brought up like they or the fans keeps asking for it when they didn’t. This topic being brought up is just politicians using it as an excuse to milk more money out of BTS, because of the economic impact BTS has brought to South Korea so far. They know that once BTS start enlisting the cash flow would not be as much as it is now since there's no one promoting Korea as much as BTS.

[@danshiesty]

Someone will take their place

[@phamquanghien7062]

5:51 This guy really hit it. People asking why the men all "becuz im a man" "i dont like/dont listen to BTS" misunderstood about the whole idols stuff.

[@Ray-kc6wf]

Idk, i found it kind of disrespectful how he said it. "Bts is just a product of bighit" Maybe its just me being overly sensitive

[@phamquanghien7062]

​ @Ray Idols in SK is indeed a "product". If ppl like it, it sells, otherwise its a flop. Btw hes not talking about "the members", the "BTS" hes talking about is the whole equipe. If the performers got some special treatment then the backstage crew, the ghost writer, the choreographer must have the same treatment.

[@frankabjh674]

@@Ray-kc6wf then listen to it again and again you'll stop finding it disrespectful whwn you understand wat hes saying

[@markfan1004]

@@frankabjh674 bruh

[@हानासुगिसाकी]

BTS would probably serve their country even if they were exempted.

[@ForteExpresso]

दक्षिण कोरिया की आर्थिक स्थिती बड़ने का कारण भी BTS ही hai

[@SabyasachiChatterjee82]

You are from Japan who lives in India. Am I right ?

[@AshmitThakur1704]

@@ForteExpresso बिलकुल सही उनको exempt करना चाहिए

[@krishnakumar-cp5ld]

@@ForteExpresso not completely true

[@sleepynight5164]

lies

[@atikahizzati5996]

Wow these mans really know how to calmly explain their points without sounding too emotional/rude. Hats off!

[@anonymous-qx1cc]

agree

[@subarsunic]

Impact of Korean style education

[@TheEowyn22]

The issue here is that S. Korea already gives exemptions. If they didn’t, this wouldn’t be an issue. But since they do, BTS has brought more worldwide attention, tourism, and profits to the country than any athlete or classical musician. Some of these men are complaining about this being a new exemption, but this is a once in a lifetime phenomenon. I don’t think you’ll see any other k-pop group reach the same level of worldwide fame as BTS.

[@K_halmiland]

WELL SAID!!!! 😑 BUT they DON'T understand this!!! They think every single kpop group is going to reach that high level!...

[@aishajama2157]

But you would never know if any group reached the same level of success or even higher. Cause nobody thought bts would ever reach that level.. but look at them now. Don’t underestimate other idol groups!

[@TheEowyn22]

I have other Idol groups I love, Big Bang, 2NE1, Black Pink, and others. You’re right, I can’t predict with any certainty if another will make it as big. But it is a fact that no other Asian group has reached the heights BTS, not only in Asia, but in the Americas and Europe. While not impossible, it is unlikely, this lightning will strike twice. But, even if does, my point is this is not going to become a regular occurrence. It’s not like S. Korea would be in danger of suddenly having to hand out exemptions left and right. If the law already allows exemptions for people who bring certain benefits to S Korea, I don’t see how anyone can argue that BTS shouldn’t qualify.

[@trancer4e4life]

I love you!

[@coryhawley738]

the real reason is that men in Korea are angry, the rich and powerful have been exempt for years all they have to do is bribe a few officials and their sons don't have to go whereas the poor and powerless are forced to join. the military is basically torture in a lot of ways, abuse is widespread so is sexual assault. the law cant even help you since its governed by military law which honestly encourages this kind of behaviour. its hell on earth for the majority of men going in so obviously they would be angry if bts just like those rich kids didnt have to go through that.

[@MrBottleCaps1]

I’m in the U Army and I huge BTS fan. I have the upmost respect for them willing to take up their military duties, once called upon of course. Yes, it is a bit sad but it’s reality. Like others may say, the faster they go the quicker they come back. And to be honest 2 years of service will DEFINITELY fly by. I was 18 when I joined then all of a sudden I blinked and here I am at 24 with 6 years under my belt. Best wishes to the 7 members and to the ARMY fans.

[@opall4321]

So impressed with Seoul. Everyone is wearing a mask. Other country and states should learn from them🙌

[@thanderlin4058]

It's great they're wearing it - but also they've always worn mask even before the pandemic, so it's nothing new there.

[@ruhamaxo]

@@thanderlin4058 Ik and they’ve never protested against it unlike America 💀

[@hannahz194]

@@thanderlin4058 yep its normal in asian countries to do that,in my country we wore masks even durimg a haze or if someone has a simple flu

[@Shay45]

@@ruhamaxo America isn’t the only place that had anti-masks/ quarantine protests. There were some in Brazil, Australia, India (Mumbai), Russia, and Italy (Milan) In the Brazil one there was a politician cheering the protesters on. 🤦🏾‍♀️ Edit: omg I did a quick google search and there are other countries with protesters as well (currently!!) 😩😩

[@anakindonissa]

I will never understand people complain about the masks... its actually good You protect others from yourself. PLUS Alot of asian countries were already using masks before the pandamic .. so they are used to and never complain about it. Because in several asian countries if you are little bit sick or have the flue and not wearing a mask your are considerate very rude, have no social manners and not responsible for your fellow human being next to you. The mask not only protect yourself from others but also protecting others from yourself if you have a minor flue . Its about having social manners to some asian countries. So these asian countries wil always use mask before, during and after the pandamic due to social manners. Plus also because the heavy pollution.

[@00justsayin00]

I hate that everyone keeps bringing this topic up, because BTS have made it plenty clear that they are not seeking an exemption, but since ppl are allowing their opinions to be recorded.... the guys who are basically saying that the economic contribution should not be in the discussion, it should only be “I had to do it, so u should have to do it” are displaying some serious short sightedness. I do agree that an exemption should not be based solely on economic gains, because it opens the door for conglomerate families to argue for their sons, but BTS’ gain comes from branding themselves, & should not be overlooked. It’s not a fortune inherited or passed, it a fortune the created & earned. By being able to brand themselves in such a global way, they promote S.Korea in a larger capacity than any classically trained musician or athlete has done. By having that economic impact, they have already contributed more to the economy than 100 exempt students will in their lifetimes. So, should BTS be exempt? No, because they are not asking for an exemption. Should exemption rules be rethought? Yes, because there is obviously a hodgepodge of guidelines that cause more chaos than clarity.

[@yamyampurin]

I definitely agree. From an objective standpoint, BTS has made a huge cultural impact on the world, benefitting South Korea for generations. But yeah anyways, they aren’t looking for exemption.

[@zinnyziin]

is it true that some soccer players get exemption?

[@katharinakraven]

👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@yamyampurin]

@@zinnyziin yeah, that's what one person was saying about getting semi-finalist in world cup soccer, you'd be exempt

[@sh00k22]

bts never said they dont want to serve in the military they said they will serve when the time comes its the media and antis making assumptions on their own

[@Tyong.11]

Yes lmao I saw article related to bts how bad they're treating bts and making them look bad

[@monroedoc6729]

It is a reverse psychology technique..

[@ForteExpresso]

They never spread hate words for anyone except haters Their wants don't matter anyway if it's about country, they know that

[@sol9742]

Of course they won't say it; that would be a bad publicity if they do so. But people who are affiliated with BTS, like the agency, the stakeholders, etc would try anything they can so that BTS won't have to serve in the military since it means they will lose their money for 2 years.

[@Tyong.11]

@@sol9742 including government

[@jayx44]

It’s sooo easy to get swept up in BTS and ARMY mania and to feel like it’s just the way of the world, so it’s incredibly humbling to watch these types of man-on-the-street interviews and be reminded that in most people’s eyes, BTS are not idols/friends like they are for us ARMY. I appreciate these men’s honesty, and I learned a lot from them. I will say, though, that the group’s cultural impact can’t be defined as attaining #1 on the Billboard. BTS is the only reason I, a western foreigner, am even here to hear their perspectives about mandatory service. If that’s not an example of the success of the Hallyu, idk what is.

[@carolinekim6562]

i love how open-minded you are!

[@somerandomyoutubechannel5816]

It is such a complex issue. I totally understand the statements in this interview talking about how BTS ultimately is a product of a business and where does that line actually get drawn? Is there a certain dollar amount? Is it a certain award? If this exemption happens here, why then not over there? I liked hearing this perspective from people who aren't in the fandom, because it is a logical argument that shows the complexity of the issue, and the lack of clarity from the government. It seems the bigger issue is the mandatory service itself, and towards the end of this clip that started to be addressed. How long does South Korea keep this up? How long does this country send all it's young men into service when many of them are contributing to society in their own significant ways? All of this is a good conversation to have, and the talk of BTS exemption is a great leaping off point to have that discussion.

[@lins_z2]

About the argument that one guy said that if athletes, artists and musicians have exemptions because of their great contributions, then so should other areas like businessmen, I think that it’s debatable. Age is not really a huge matter for others areas like education, business, science, etc., while it is a huge deal for athletes and in this case, kpop artists. Their physical strength and stamina decreases greatly overtime. At some point, it’ll be harder for them to do intense trainings like they do when young. Kpop artists are also more popular when young, compared to when they’re in their 30s and older, so for them their 20s are even more important. While as a regular person, you’ll of course feel like your youth is wasted, you still can do professionally all the things that you can in those years spent in the military. So in my opinion, that’s not really a great argument against it. But again, even when people have this conversation, at the end it is BTS’s decision if they would take an exemption even when given the opportunity.

[@cassandraanilom7074]

This exemption thingy is hard for bts. Cuz of their career. If they will given an opportunity to be exempted. They will accept it becuz of the goverment,fans and their company. But if they will not accept it. the reasons i think are the pressure from the reactions of non-armys most of the kpop fans from other groups that hates them and think that they take it as a privilege and unfair to other groups. The pressure they had since they’re getting bigger and bigger. One mistake will take other as an opportunity to bring them down. So it’s up to them. I will not question the goverment for the exemption if it happens. Cuz bts is one of the moneymaker as well as samsung and hyundai these two examples of brand that bts endorse increase more profit and demand globally even it is pandemic. Not mention last year that almost billion dollars they contribute to the sk economy exclude the tourism and other non- durable goods. Now 1.4 billion dollars they contribute in sk economy half of the year amidst the pandemic. On the other hand, the exemption needs to have high standard, also part of korean law but the changes is a long process. This is only my opinion.

[@lins_z2]

@@cassandraanilom7074 at least BTS moved the conversation forward, although not voluntarily. I just wish that if they did get the exemption and they decided to take it, that male society in South Korea could just accept it. A lot of them are so selfish. Yes, they had to go and didn’t have a chance to avoid it, but if they had had the opportunity, they would had taken it. If they were in BTS’s position, they would definitely take the chance, because like they said, almost no one really wants to do the military service. And yet, because they themselves had to go through that, that everyone must, even at the detriment of great part of the country’s economy. But well, even if BTS do finally enlist, at least there was a conversation about it and I believe that’s very positive for such conservative culture. A lot of countries over the world moved to voluntary military service and yet South Korea is still adamant to talk about changing that, even when a large size of the male population would rather not go or do anything possible to avoid it. And I hope the conversation keeps moving forward, beyond just BTS.

[@manuelmateo3392]

@@cassandraanilom7074 S.Korea will not take such a financial loss if BTS aren't promoting, especially not when compared to the amount of money the country produces and transfers on the world stage.

[@louselfridge517]

@@manuelmateo3392 they're responsible for more than 3% of all the money that comes to Korea. That's absolutely insane and should definetly be a reason to make an exception.

[@manuelmateo3392]

@@louselfridge517 While substantial, that is the definition of a drop in the bucket when looking at the GDP of the entire country. It won't so substantial a hit to the economy.

[@jamesmin1239]

For all the "fans" of Korean culture who don't even know the importance of the mandatory military service, all Korean males in entertaiment business have done it (at least those that are able to). I have no doubt BTS will do it. But like many male kpop groups, they'll do it in turns so that the group can still do promotional tours and make money for the agency. Most entertainers will go into the public service route after they complete boot camp. Lee Seung Gi famously didn't go that route and decided to instead go into the Special Forces of the Army. One Korean singer, Yoo Seung John, said he would do his military service, but instead became a US citizen. He is now forever barred from entering S. Korea and after his appeals were denied. Kim Jong Kook actually got a lot of crap because he went to his wedding in China. That's how strong the silent majority shame is for those who skip mandatory military service.

[@ajalov1]

He did grow up in the 🇺🇸

[@jamesmin1239]

@@ajalov1 and your point is?

[@jamesmin1239]

@Quiana it's important for national security so that's why countries like Taiwan (under threat from PRC) and Israel (under threat from ALL their neighbors) require military service. If it was voluntary, the numbers would be much lower. Common sense....

[@kshitizmaharjan5917]

@Quiana because they are still in war and North Korea can announce war anytime and they are not big like USA. So they have to increase the number of armys for war.

[@jesbinjain2085]

@Quiana no, North Korea has 1.3 million troops and Nukes.

[@nabila6401]

Let the government and BTS decide. Also ARMYs (specially I-ARMYs) should stop acting like they know more about others culture and economic.

[@sb8095]

Preach👏🏻👏🏻

[@kxkwiz7599]

Say it louder

[@chasternasein4167]

periodt.

[@hobidihobidoo8626]

LOUDER FELLOW ARMY!!!

[@simrat9250]

True army😃

[@ytl5808]

Foreigners have nothing to say on this matter. This is not a BTS problem. This is a problem for all Korean youth, not BTS.

[@husky4890]

And? No one talked abt foreigners here. Don't be stupíd

[@jorge3234]

No one is really asking for a complete exception anymore since BTS themselves have said they want to serve their country when the time comes. What fans and the general korean public want is a delay to their military services until at least their 30s, that way BTS can keep promoting while they're at the peak of their careers. It would also benefit korea because they wouldn't lose out on the economical impact BTS has given them and will keep giving them as long as they are active and not in the military.

[@livelylilly4135]

Absolutely true !! We armys respect the korean law.

[@purplepink17]

I wish the military period for them to be 1 yr.. the Korean govt give at least a less period as they contributed so much for Korea 😭

[@004kim]

@@purplepink17 its 18 months so not 2 complete years.

[@purplepink17]

@@004kim yh. Ik. I wish the military period will not be exceed 1yr for them.

[@ssrlly]

@@purplepink17 It'll be very unfair to everyone else serving alongside them.

[@tinaarmy7625]

The issue is everyone is making an issue out of it When BTS themselves said nothing and ready to serve when the country needs them.

[@k_.2659]

Right especially other fandoms

[@emilyvalerio7941]

Exactly

[@artheaux666]

Which one is it did they say nothing or did they say they were ready to serve???

[@luckyrage1000]

@@artheaux666 yess if they are told to serve they are ready to serve! That's what they said!

[@tinaarmy7625]

@@artheaux666 They have always said that they are willing to serve when the country needs them.

[@emilyvalerio7941]

This is so frustrating cause not once did bts say they weren’t going

[@wangxian5473]

Exactly

[@광고보고가실게여]

That’s not the point. They need to go anyway no matter what. Whatever they say doesnt matter.

[@christinaevangelinaperez5211]

@@광고보고가실게여 It’s because a lot of people are getting angry at them for “not fulfilling their military duties”. But they’ve been telling everyone since then that they will be willing to serve for their country. It’s just that the media is making it look like it’s their fault and that they’re using their fame and popularity as an excuse to not fulfill their duties where infact, they’ve never said they wouldn’t. It does matter because the issue is about them??? what they say matters because that will determine their stand. They said they would so that should be the end of it. people shouldnt go and attack them for it.

[@Natsu-px8ep]

@@광고보고가실게여 Actually, it does matter, because it is about them, and a lot of people are saying that they are trying to use their fame as an excuse for exemption when Jin clearly said that he'll be ready to go whenever he's called. It matters, because we can clearly see where they stand on the issue.

[@betchayoyo7562]

Nobody said that BTS said that. The government is discussing whether or not to exempt them. BTS bring a ridiculous amount of money into Korea every year and are by far the biggest advocates for Korean culture.

[@binibiningchenn6171]

BTS: I'm ready to go to the military- Department Ministry of Sports and Leisure: No no, wait!

[@somerandomyoutubechannel5816]

So why aren't they enlisting if they want to go?

[@shookmin_rv1376]

@@somerandomyoutubechannel5816 from what i know, the govt extended 2 yrs for them which is the age of 30 instead of 28 i think

[@lalapozada7834]

@@somerandomyoutubechannel5816 unfortunately it’s not completely up to them. We all want to think that everything is their decision but in the end they have an agency that they have to answer to and also the government. I don’t think people understand how much BTS contributes economically to SK

[@steverogers__]

@@lalapozada7834 BTS members, like any Korean men, don't want to go to the military. Their agency doesn't want them to go, for money. The government doesn't want them to go, for money. But money shouldn't be the criteria. Then, you would be indirectly saying all wealthy people who pay huge sum in taxes to the government should be exempt because they are "contributing to the economy". Kdramas and Hallyu as a whole was already growing popular in the west before BTS debuted. BTS happened to accelerate that growth. Regardless of this, their popularity and wealth shouldn't mean their lives are more important than a regular Korean man.

[@poppywales]

Because the government want their money as long as possible. BTS are just pawns at this stage. I’m army btw

[@vanessalee2868]

summary: of course the boys are never the type to abuse their privilege tbh, i think their hard work and dedication to their careers already prove that. to me, its really not up to them, but its a fight between the kr gov, their label, the korean public's opnion and the dpt of sports and leisure. there's people who want them to go because its their duty as korean men, but theres people who dont because of their contribution to the korean economy. in the end, its a question of patriotism and honour- is it more patriotic to enlist in the army despite their idol status, or is it more patriotic and honourable to work hard as idols to continue serving the economy, global relations and tourism company.

[@lalitthapa101]

Well patriotism does play a part but not that much.The people of korea are smart and they know mandatory service is more than just having the pride of serving the nation.its also the fact The people know how fkced the military will get if mandatory service is not required. Just look at the data of how many people actually serve permanent in the military and the ones who are doing mandatory service.Its really low plus military is not an aspired job option in Korea as many would rather get office jobs or other occupations Add to that North Korea who have away big army.South will be in danger.Seeing current politics North Is very unpredictable and they can't just leave it. And the question of what's more patriotic.That depends.Patriotism is not broad and has many layers but there is certainly a different sense of pride in serving in a time when the two nations are still hostile and the war just ended formally in 2018

[@mularose]

very well said!

[@pinkerino6930]

While I ain’t a Korean, I am a Singaporean male where we have the same 2 years mandatory National Service. Interestingly, I had a similar discussion with my army friends regarding this and I feel Singaporeans are more pragmatist than nationalists. The military wouldn’t collapse just because there’s 7 less enlistees, so why for the sake of “fairness” and symbolic values of serving the military would we give up on the extraordinary benefits BTS can bring to the country if they are allowed to not serve. In the end, I think Singaporeans are generally pragmatists and will choose tangible (economic benefits etc) over the intangible (symbolic values of national service, duty to country etc)

[@rozhin6055]

We have the same 2~ year mandatory military service in Iran. Iranian men have the same views on military service as South Korean men. Honestly, if we had gems like BTS in the country I'd 100% want them to be exempted and contribute the way they best can!

[@annaairahala9462]

It's called crab mentality. If you didn't want to do something why would you want others to do it? Are they really improving anything by trying to attain some fictitious feeling of fairness?

[@AshmitThakur1704]

No I mean like their service could be delayed to like 2024 why destroy their group popularity when they are rising so fast

[@abrararifify]

This is a brilliant reply. I personally haven't been dealt the hand of being effectively forced to do military service since I'm Canadian, but if need be I would definitely do military service. Based on that context, with the overarching reach that BTS has internationally, it would be completely asinine not to exempt them. Or at the very least delay the enlisting only after their careers simmer down around their 30's. It very ironic given that you mention that Koreans look more within intangibles i.e, duty and national service, with that lense, it would absolutely be more patriotic letting BTS exempt for the sake of promoting Korean culture, but in reality, the men that want BTS to be enlisted in the military do it out of spite. Also, the engineering doctorate, the only one that been overseas to the State realized the true influence of BTS internationally. I don't blame Koreans not realizing how big of an influence BTS has oversees since they live in Korea.

[@pabloemilioescobargaviria9914]

who give a fark about singapore.... singapore doesnt have anything which benefit the world

[@pbeccas]

Being famous does not make you any better than the average man on the street.

[@akaRyuka]

It's not just a matter of being famous when you literally carried your whole country culturally speaking. They are on annual economic reports of the country. They aren't just "famous idols" at this point, they're the face of South Korea for the entire world. There are whole galaxies in terms of gap between BTS and other korean idols/celebrities.

[@crispyOliver]

if i ever met someone that said they are from korea, my first thought would be samsung, not bts.

[@monostar7]

army or not, my personal opinion as a human being is that military service should not be mandatory anywhere in the world.

[@anonymous17181]

True

[@KhairulFadzlyAKarim]

South Korea is technically still at war, if your country is at war with an irrational despot who thinks he is the godking of all Korea and who has keys to a nuclear arsenals can you still say that? South Korea needs an ever ready army but they know not every wants to be in one so the mandatory enlistment is a compromise.

[@Alphakid220]

@@KhairulFadzlyAKarim I agree with you, every country has different situation. To be honest if BTS wont be exempted, the company could still earn since not all members will enlist at the same time. Someone just making an issue. Who knows.

[@selyn6312]

Rose10 They are at WAR. It’s not like they are going for years on end, it’s only 30 months (used to be 35) and men think of it as their duty.

[@badv9319]

south korea is near north korea, russia, china and japan

[@akom3640]

I think what everybody ignores is that BTS themselves have never asked to be exempted, it's the government discussing the possibilities

[@abc_xyz_123]

I heard someone say... foreigners probably don't know the name and face of a famous Korean Soccer player but everyone knows BTS.

[@djfoxx530]

Some fans still mistake Tao, former EXO member for BTS member

[@diamoamy]

Exactly!!! Like dude I didn’t know anything about their country before except for BTS who the hell knows their players or Olympic gold medal winners lmao

[@oqeufh]

If you're a soccer fan you most likely 100% know about Son Heung Min or Park Ji Sung and their faces too. Plus the soccer fandom (at least here in Europe) is much bigger than what you think, maybe not in America, but pretty much in the rest of the world soccer is insanely popular and sports fans in general are super intense. Do not underestimate sports fans really, there's a reason why being a soccer player is one of the most high paying jobs out there. I would say that at least where I'm from when people mention "famous koreans" most people will think first of Park Ji Sung rather than of BTS, then again in my country soccer is the number 1 sport and the general population just tends to know more about soccer than about pop music from other countries.

[@breakthesilence1891]

@@oqeufh famous koreans in any country worldwide will pop up 3 letters, BTS. I highly doubt people would care knowing the name of the korean footballer as yes even though it's a popular sport, it doesn't attract public attention like music does

[@roshangurung9302]

abc_xyz_123 Only Americans aren't foreigners. So shut up. You don't speak for all of us. They should definitely serve. Being famous doesn't mean they are making country proud.

[@lynnvien5690]

honestly..i love bts with all my heart, but i do think they should serve their 2 years in the military. it’s mandatory and every single man had to do it, it’s only fair if they do it

[@josephinekalid8054]

Yeah but they deserved a reduced exemption like son huengmin did.

[@paulghencea9037]

They themselves said they would.

[@ADeeSHUPA]

@@josephinekalid8054 尊 흥민

[@icedamericanoh7713]

are u korean tho?? i agree with if ur korean but if not u have no say in this

[@lynnvien5690]

@@icedamericanoh7713 yes i’m part korean part chinese and live in incheon, my dad is full korean

[@Robert-ow2hh]

It's just simple, It became an issue because of economic contribution, I think Korean business or government is opportunist when it's all about money.

[@three_o_two]

Who wouldn't? Think about having a pop group bringing much more tourists in than the national tourism agency does.

[@takuyamatsuda7214]

*1975 rolls back*

[@TheSamnkomi]

5 billion (not 5 trillion, sorry for the misinformation) is actually the GDP of a small nation.. I’m a Korean American who is in Korea to serve my duty and I support BTS exception from their services just by the fact that I got to witness American teens in NY public transport hold the Korean flag because of the US Tour BTS had.

[@Yeonbin]

@@TheSamnkomi thats interesting bc u actually saw the impact of bts in other countries while these men havent so they ofc would say no to exemption

[@jamjam0409]

Of course it's about money. It's only about money.

[@MsSoni3]

People saying BTS's hype will go down and everything must know that the group itself will have their own individual projects. The popularity might decline a little but saying they will be forgotten completely is just a misunderstanding of yours. There is a reason why they are different than other groups including both K-pop and Western.

[@joicelovespink979]

Nothing last forever sorry.

[@joicelovespink979]

That's true lets wait and see.

[@Isaiah53_John3.16_ChangeUrLife]

Yess. Us Armys will never forget them!! 💜 and we will keep on supporting them forever

[@aliya1923]

I'm sorry, but I quite not like your sentence "there is a reason why they are different than other groups including both K-POP and western". I would like it more if you don't compare them... If I were to reply, "Yes, and there are also reasons why Queen is different than any other western or KPOP's groups on that note," Wouldn't you feel irritated? Everyone has their own taste of music and art, but what you said sounds condescending to me, as if you're saying BTS is the best of them all. Well, I also do think those wishing for BTS's popularity to go down is childish in the first place 😔 (they're wishing for some people to literally be demoted in their job... that ain't cool, bro). I hope that this wasn't what you meant to say and it's just my misunderstanding though 😊 let's respect each other! 👏👏

[@whistlingwind7669]

Many groups served the military and came back stronger. They may not have become so popular after it but still still alive and making good music. I think all fans of these groups will be waiting for them to come back even if it takes a long time.. Some groups took 10 years but their fans are still here. If we really are true fans, then we will wait for them to come back, maybe not as popular as before but stronger.

[@l.337]

All their answers revolve around “if I’m miserable why should others be free”. I thought there’d be some explanation about the sensitive political situation but I’m surprised their answers are just “this is a sensitive issue because other men would feel like it’s unfair”. I’m saying this as an asian woman who voluntarily served in my country, whose father and brother were both conscripted..... are these men babies? Someone receiving special honours or treatment has no impact on my life. Laws and exceptions that are clear and non-arbitrary aren’t unfair by virtue of their existence. If the prospect of serving in the military (lol) is truly so terrible, then why aren’t you happy that some people get to escape this fate? Sorry ..... I’m not very sympathetic to men who need to be coddled.

[@mangnanyong623]

Did you even watch the video to the end? I think you got what these interviewees said wrong. Many of them even agreed exception, and those who disagreed have their own reasons. Are you even honest about what you said? I mean, it could be just an assumption, but who calls him or herself "asian" in asia?

[@cassandraanilom7074]

hosuh boi are u korean? Or just intl. fan from other groups? Cuz i’m so sick of that. Some intl. fans from other groups always say that but the truth is they hate bts. They use those words that bts said regarding this topic.I’m just asking

[@cassandraanilom7074]

hosuh boi i’m sorry cuz many kpoppies use that phrase against them. my point is they hate bts and use that words. Bcuz of this issue bts is pressured. I just wanna sayif bts accept the exemption or not. Don’t doubt them in their decision. I have my opinion too. Pls. Still support them. Thank u and sorry for making a mistake.

[@cassandraanilom7074]

hosuh boi nope it’s okay to stan other groups cuz i stan other group also and as a human we have freedom on what we like and want. But i don’t like the hate that bts get and use their words against them. I’m just a fan who loves them since i owe my life to them but not a toxic one not to mention i’m already in legal age

[@a.d.3522]

I think the reason why people are so adamant about BTS getting an exemption is because of the musical footprint they have internationally. Like exo, Gdragon, etc while popular, literally cannot compare nor top the financial and popular gain South Korea got after BTS got popular. Not only would going to the military hurt South Korea’s economy, personally I think BTS have done enough and served their country, and even up until now, have said they will enlist. No one is coddling BTS but they deserve better than to be stripped of their peak just so they can be taught how to fight a never-ending war that they most likely don’t want to be a part of.

[@jingdellomes465]

BTS is willing to go, they did not say they want exemption. Love BTS.

[@ninaj9062]

BTS have talked about serving on multiple occasions. Sometimes they have been straight forward and other times they have been more subtle. For example, both Jin and Yoongi straight up saying we will serve when we are called and when we are ready (possibly hinting at all 7 going at the same time which would be smartest in my opinion). Or JK during a vlive when a fan said something about him looking good with a shaved head, and JK laughing and saying I hope so. They are ready and don’t want to be exempt. ARMY, we’ve known them long enough now to know that that’s not their heart or message. They never want to be treated like they were any better than anyone else.

[@Shay45]

I don’t think that them all going at the same time is the best for their company financial. I doubt that will happen

[@vanesalusaria7860]

@@Shay45 its actually the best. They can record content for a year. Use tiny tan to hold mini concerts or release MV's for recorded songs. Have BTS release pre recorded messages to army released at specific times in the year, have run episodes maybe a bon voyage released over a period of 8 weeks to supplement run episodes. Have a tiny tan animation/ movie or release the smeraldo books as a tv series, Release behind the scene footage # bangtanbombs etc.

[@vanesalusaria7860]

@@Shay45 basically BTS BTS BTS content

[@ninaj9062]

@@Shay45 I totally get where you're coming from because I thought the same way until i researched a bit more. But if you do the math with the whole one at a time thing. they would be spending the rest of their career missing at least one member at any given time. Two years of only premade content vs 8-14 years with missing members.

[@lunarialoonatic]

I hope they don’t go together. That would definitely hurt their popularity more and wouldn’t make any sense. BIGHIT wouldn’t allow that because the company would suffer without BTS. Plus some of the members are taking classes so it’s clear they aren’t going anywhere right now. But Bighit needs someone to hold the reigns once Yoongi and Jin go, sending all of them away will hurt them

[@syubbe]

The guys, who are saying that bts are trying to be exempted - just like how people with connections will use those connections to avoid military service - are wrong. I remember that bts have actually talked about this topic and said that they’d gladly serve in the military, since namjoon said it is a part of “growing up” - they’ve mentioned that a lot of their friends have talked about how military service has changed them etc. Idk why people are debating about this and haven’t actually asked bts themselves, if they even want to be ... exempted?

[@campusrec4098]

Just to help clarify a little, there’s a difference between a want and responsibility. A lot of men actually go to do military and say stuff like “it’s part of growing up” or “my social duty to serve the country” that’s a responsibility. The want part is different. A lot of guys don’t actually wish to be enlisted in the military (and for good reasons too), but ultimately all those who say they want to be exempted still attends because they know it’s a duty and responsibility. Sacrifices get made for the better

[@tatisuwati9546]

Are u korean? Because I once watched a korean youtuber said they'd rather to die if they have option to skip military service's time. No sk's men like it, or even talked about it.

[@syubbe]

@@campusrec4098 i appreciate your comment! :) but i just wanted to note that i never said the guys would absolutely love to go to military etc, since it is something that a lot of sk men dread about. i was just trying to clarify that bts arent part of those who are desperately trying hard to be exempted just because they are ... bts. it just seemed that some of the guys in the video were putting them (a little) into bad light- by stereotyping them as part of those who use their powers to be exempted just bc they have connections. So i just wanted to clarify that bts did say they’d gladly do it IF needed and that they arent simply trying to dodge military services desperately just like those powerful individuals who try to do it just cause they dont want to. (Again it doesn’t necessarily mean bts are absolute ecstatic to go into the service, just clarifying that they’re willing and open to do it, if the exemption doesnt pull through)

[@syubbe]

@@tatisuwati9546 no im not! and as i’ve replied to op above^^ my comment isnt implying that bts would absolutely adore to go to the service, i was just trying to clarify that bts were open and willing to go into the military if needed - as they’ve stated. Because as i’ve said ^^^ i just felt as if some of the guys were lowkey seeing them in bad light, that they’re just like the other powerful celebs / figures who try to dodge the military just bc they know they have connections. (hhh i explained it better in the comment above :

[@campusrec4098]

@@syubbe totally understanding where you are coming from, but also understand that bts is a celebrity groups. And you know how celebrities are on media... every word and action they say can be used against them. Sometimes, it’s better for a celebrity to lie about things than tell the truth as it gives a positive image. The unfortunate reality also is that Kpop groups must give a good representation of Korea as a whole in general. Personal feelings are not allowed in such industries, and therefore, while they may have said they will, it’s just a point to take into consideration that it may not be the full truth as well. (Moreso done for the sake of the media and satisfying the population)

[@purvaagrawal7411]

When that man said that he isn't much interested on Bts just because he is a man, I laughed

[@plaidpuma]

Oh yeah! It's because in their culture female idol groups are targeted towards men and male idol groups towards females. So it's understandable. It's like girls being into video games a typical "male" activity.

[@nutellanonut2596]

@@plaidpuma as i know korean not that update too with bb or gg..they have their own life too. Not everyone are fan

[@crisrabadan9981]

When I think of bts it’s just a modern day Backstreet Boys. More catered to females but yes some guys like them but lots of males are im sure I’m don’t care for bts 😊

[@JesusOurLordandSavior]

@@crisrabadan9981 ummmmm no....

[@paulinalopez1950]

OMG YESSSS AKJSJSJSJS

[@namjoons1367]

So the first guy was like “since I’m a male I’m not too interested” sis not all of us are girls tf

[@tejas_649]

But, Mainly Girls are Interested in KPOP, About 80%

[@namjoons1367]

@@tejas_649 mainly, but being a guy still isn’t a valid reason

[@aqasyahnizam28]

The main reason u like bts bcz their are handsome, same goes to man

[@aizensvank5981]

He probably didn't mean it like that, since it's a boy group their would probably be more girls who are interested in BTS but he worded that wrong

[@namjoons1367]

@@aqasyahnizam28 them being handsome is not even one of my reasons, have you heard about personality or do u date based on looks?

[@MyKoreanNotebook]

I have no idea why this thread is flooded with comments.

[@ILmylife108]

Lol. Following that logic, no females should like the kpop girl groups!

[@foxgivesnoshite]

I think it's about interest and not gender.

[@ILmylife108]

@@foxgivesnoshite Then why mention his gender as if it has to do with why he is not interested? Why mention he is 'a guy'? Uh, we can see that! Lol

[@foxgivesnoshite]

@@ILmylife108 we gotta know where that's coming from. for most percentage of stans are girls. if you stan you stan. if you don't then you don't. if I say "I'm a girl and girl bands aren't of my interest" then that's totally fine too. although gender has nothing to do with your music taste, we get to decide for ourselves and it's 100% okay to say what you feel. there's nothing to over analyse. people have their likes and dislikes. this is just people stating their views and this video has nothing to do with hate-spread / backlashes. and we as people watching this have no say in their personal interests like they don't have a say in ours; thus we don't need to get all worked up. we all get to differ in every aspect :)

[@ILmylife108]

@@foxgivesnoshite Who is getting all worked up? Maybe you noticed my Lol in my post? This is not important and you are the only one over analyzing. Maybe relax and take a nap. I hope you feel better. 💜

[@illumination_0109]

I feel like BTS shouldn’t be exempted but I think delaying their military will suffice with the amount of contribution they have on the country

[@aho900girly7]

Yes I agree 😌

[@aho900girly7]

It's better they delay it

[@bluenova4703]

yeah i think delaying it would be good regarding their careers but then again that might not happen

[@decalcomani1169]

There have been musicians who have made contributions no where near bts's but still receive exemption because of certain awards they won. Bts have not only contributed the most to south koreas economy but they've literally changed the industry, exemption isnt that crazy.

[@mariminerey]

lol no one said BTS is trying to get out of it, they’re just getting people’s opinion on the topic, this your first time on this channel?

[@rcppcsk1589]

People are just reacting to some of the guys who did say that they're trying to get out of it. People discuss the opinions expressed in the videos in the comment section. First time on the channel?

[@mariminerey]

@@rcppcsk1589 lol no, but thanks for your opinion✌🏽

[@rainbows5232]

@@rcppcsk1589 then they shouldnt comment that on a video where that hasnt been said as if it was

[@vera8656]

Completely off-topic, but the guy with the black backwards cap was giving such detailed an long answeres, the reporter started swaying back and forth, trying to distract herself from her arm going weak. She held that mic up like a champ!

[@ashluna6569]

Guys don't be mad at those people expressing their opinions tho if you don't want to hear it then just leave don't listen to it or watch it...oh and also damn international fans stop acting like you know everything about korea okay man? Don't act like a korean netizen if you're not one

[@skinbubby]

BTS said they'll be ready when duty calls. I don't care about anyone else's opinion on this topic other than the govt. And the boys themselves

[@bluenova4703]

the whole mindset and argument of “if i suffered then you have to as well” is just so invalid to me.

[@drinkwoter]

Because u didn’t have to suffer amirite?

[@dianathemyscira6162]

Agree. It's so sad to see how bitter, jealous and close-minded these men are. Almost all of them just approach the topic from a selfish/individual point of view with a narrow mindset. The only exception (kudos to him!) is the guy @ 10:25. With his thinking and phrasing you can tell he is really intelligent and has a wider perspective. He nails the whole issue at 10:38.

[@dianathemyscira6162]

@69 Please hold your horses... Clearly we are not talking about the same thing.. My opinion was in regards of the men's approach and reasoning when it comes to the topic of exemption and BTS as that was the main point of this interview. The male/female presence in military was not in my mind at all. (I don't even remember if anyone mentioned it in this video) The whole topic of military is way too complex to discuss all its aspects and I absolutely have no intention to enter that kind of huge and long debate. I only reacted to their remarks and their opinion why BTS should not be exempt.

[@Slyntra]

@69 you have a point. She was quick to judge and call them names for just simply giving their opinions.

[@bluenova4703]

@69 opinions, opinions... get used to them lmao. and it’s not any of our places to decide if they should get exempted or not, my original comment was just to say that i didn’t like that mindset. yes, they can complain ALL they want, but wanting others to feel displeasure as you did is something strange to me. personally, if i was forced to go to the military and work my ass off for 2 years without enjoying a single bit of it, i would definitely not want someone else to go through the same thing. but to each their own. not tryna start an argument, as i’m not korean, meaning korean politics do not concern/regard me.

[@buglug3281]

Yes, BTS members should go because it’s the law and many Kpop idols including actors have done it. So, there should be no acception. It’s not hate on them it’s just something you are required to do when ur born in Korea.

[@icedamericanoh7713]

are u korean

[@miakitty6]

However exemption were given to olympic medalist, classical music artist & other people with astounding achievement. Its not like every single male in Korea have to do it but not BTS. & sorry but no other Kpop idols achieve BTS success, obviously they cant even be compared to BTS.

[@kaitlyn6707]

@@icedamericanoh7713 I’m Korean and I agree. Are you?

[@marksayosmejia7251]

I aint korean but im pretty sure everyone is under the law.

[@glittergirl8792]

Yeah

[@faithfullyfaith199]

There are exepections to people in sports and more who contribute a lot to South Korea. Their just thinking about adding idols to it.

[@jorge3234]

Well apparently athletes and classical musicians aren't. But apparently they spread the korean culture to the world to bad i don't know any of them.

[@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj]

That goes for every country not just Korea.

[@monroedoc6729]

Speak for yourself....

[@kikihernan5040]

My Boys will still being the best group because ARMY will stay here for them💜💜

[@shaikhshifa2251]

Yaass if they serve in military For two years we'll be there for them for two years And in those two years they are not doing anything but army will make sure to gain their popularity more and more during that time we'll do anything everything so people will be more curious about their comeback and we'll make sure It but now just stop it Korea is their country if they want to do it so we should respect their decision atleast they all seven are going to serve at one time So now focus on dynamite other mv's and their comeback in Nov so their country's politicians will think again for their exemption from military we have to give them gram*y and more #1 for their every song and every single award only bts and army can do this Fighting 😇💜😇💜😇💜

[@CCCP99]

I dont even know why there is an argument about this when The BTS members even said it countless of times that "whenever the country calls they are ready to serve" one thing is for sure I'd still support and would never trade BTS even with one active member left. I came here for BTS not for the whole Kpop .

[@mariareynaga3908]

We think the same 💜