Korsakoff's Syndrome | Causes (ex. Alcoholism), Symptoms, & Possible Treatments

Lesson on Korsakoff's Syndrome (part of Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome), pathophysiology and brain area damages, causes, symptoms and possible treatments. Korsakoff's syndrome is a chronic and often irreversible encephalopathy is often associated with longterm alcoholism and is also considered to be a late manifestation of Wernicke's encephalopathy. In this lesson, we discuss the causes of Korsakoff's syndrome, brain areas that are affected, symptoms and treatment.
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[@bossdog1480]

I was a chronic alcoholic for around 40 years. I ended up in hospital for 9 weeks and then in a home for 3 years. I'm extremely lucky to be alive. Surprisingly I have retained my memory, both long and short, as confirmed by my family. They thought I was going to die when I was placed in the home, but they pumped me full of B1 and Magnesium and I pulled through. It's been 6 years since I had a drink. 😁

[@paleochora]

Thats wonderful, congratulations, keep going.

[@monteforae8077]

Winners are grinners

[@jane178]

Can you help us with the knowledge of what treatment that you received, please?

[@bossdog1480]

Vitamin B1, Magnesium and Creon for digestion if the patient has diarrhea from not being able to digest food anymore. @@jane178

[@ZARIASALIM]

Keep it up warrior

[@markymark444]

My dad suffered from this, it’s like it came on overnight. Super severe, as if he had amnesia. Couldn’t remember a thing past a minute. His health deteriorated until he was just a shell of a man. Lights were on but nobody was home. It was scary and he was only 62. Was also the start of my nightmare that lasted another 10 years until he passed. He was like a zombie, didn’t talk, walk and had a blank stare every day of his life. Him passing was something I’d wished for for years. I’ve never seen my dad without a drink in hand. He went hard and was trapped in a living nightmare. If you’re an addict, so everything possible to get off the booze. Trust me, it was the most disturbing thing to witness.

[@Strange9952]

Was he drinking up until the point where it was clear he had wet brain?

[@happygirl264]

Did it show in an MRI? My mom has all the symptoms but drs keep saying her mri looks good?? I don’t get it I’m sorry you had to deal with this

[@Tommy88-]

I got to we’re I was dizzy all the time, but now I’m on my 4th day sober, and feeling better.

[@lindasomerville2834]

I can relate to this big time with my Mum, she was also very aggressive until very late stages of the illness. My sympathies go out to anyone having to experience this whether its them or close friends or families

[@filukkasunivers2389]

Sorry to hear that.....I think my mom has this. Found her almost dead. She fell and could not get up. Over night she was a different person and is now in an elderly home. She is alive, but she is not the same anymore. Just a shell of herself. I miss her

[@thetruenorth5714]

My Dad has this. He was also just diagnosed with alcoholic hepatitis. He is literally drinking himself to death. Zero quality of life. He is one of a litany of reasons I choose to be sober.

[@joshuajacob2332]

23 year old male i just got diagnosed with korsakoff syndrome, i really appreciate this video. you’re very good at explaining it all. i never thought i would get anything like this, this early and a tip to people who have it is journaling and also certain mind games like solitaire

[@jeb678910]

Are you doing any better?

[@SamHuam]

I've watched my dad drink for 17 years or so. I am in my early 30's. He has struggled with alcoholism collectively for longer than I've been alive. He's now in his early 60's. Steadily drinking about a liter of hard alcohol a day. His ongoing battle with recurring gout attacks have debilitated him occasionally but he is relatively healthy for his age because of a history of fitness and physical labor. He is probably about 280-300 lbs with most of the weight in his gut. For decades he has on average eaten one meal a day. It has been my job to help him get adequate nutrition. Yet I became exhausted spending more time helping somebody to no avail than focusing on my own life. It is to the point now he has calves swollen larger than his thighs with the skin super tight from knee to foot. He came home for a long easter weekend and made a gigantic mess having an accident where he didn't get to the toilet and instead of diarrhea left blood sprayed all over the walls and floor around the toilet. He was so woozy he fell over that night. But the problem seemed to fix itself over night. Even after deficating blood he refused to seek a doctor and continued to drink as normal through his days off after easter on mon and tues. He went through two handles since saturday night. He has been acting very irrational and aggressive. I am doing my best not to engage the downright crazy behavior including belittling and attacks. He's very lucky he hasn't fallen and gotten hurt. He basically sat on the couch for 3 days in a stuper with no sense of time. His memory has been slipping for years but he is acting more off than usual. The scary thing is he has seemed absolutely wasted even on his last day off tuesday even though he hasn't hardly drank anything. This is all very scary because I watched someone I love go through encephalopathy and die of cirrhosis last year. It progressed from her skin looking kind of yellow to her hallucinating for a week and then being in induced coma and dying in hospice within a matter of less than 3 weeks.

[@keariewashburn4680]

I can relate. My aunt is in the hospital now 2 months. She lived in her home. No drivers license ect and widowed in 2012. She has always been a heavy alcoholic all her life. She called and needed a few things from the store and said she felt so sore and tired. She said she didn't feel well enough to shower and dress. I went to take some items to her and asked could she come to the door when I came because I had some other errands. She said yes. When I got there, I knocked on the door and she answered. She opened the door and I freaked out. She had 3rd degree burns down her left side of her body! Her skin was charred black. I couldn't believe she was standing there alive talking to me. The house was a complete disaster with urine, fecal matter and flies. Her medications were all over the floor ect. I didn't know if she did some drugs ( meth?) Or anything as well. I know that she would get very angry and violent at times when she was highly drunk intoxicated. Which was everyday really for decades. I got an ambulance and they did transport to burn unit. No memory and it seems she is somewhere in junior high in her mind. She will be 64 in about 2 weeks. I have had the most complicated time of trying to figure out all the necessary work to get her to long term care. It's absolutely so emotionally draining to see her this way. She is still in the hospital and doing well with PT and stuff. But, she is kind of content in her mind so that is good in a way. But, this is so difficult.

[@Yuralittlebitchn1gga]

283-300lbs ..he ain’t healthy in anyway shape or form and his bmi is the leading cause of his health issues along with the drinking..don’t follow in his foot steps ..

[@scottgoodman8993]

One meal a day means he is horribly malnourished. The weight is not related to caloric intake. His liver, kidneys and likely his heart are not working. A weight reduction diet will not help him. Altered fluid balance related to the organ failure and kidneys are at the center of his trouble. An alcohol taper and workup of his organ failure problems is his only chance.

[@chrism3188]

My father (lifelong excessive beer drinker), stopped eating and slipped into a severely declining state over the pandemic resulting in him being unconscious on the ground for 2 days having lived off beer for a few weeks. He was diagnosed with WKS and spent 54 days in hospital (was stable and could've been released 2 weeks earlier but he was still recovering and his final discharge assessment would determine if he kept his medical power of attorney, so we kept him there hoping to get him over the bar). Luckily his organs recovered quickly in hospital but his walking (ataxia) and his memory (new short to long term memory) were severely compromised. We were told he would likely need full time care for rest of his life and he may never walk. I worked with him daily starting on day 15 in hospital through discharge for 60 days both physically and mentally and slow recovery was noticed, i got him to shuffle walk and remember things for 1 hr, then 2 then a day, but progress started to noticeably taper and was almost stagnant at around day 120. All the research I did basically said there is basically no treatment (given neuron brain damage) other than 100% no alcohol and vitamin B. But then I started looking into TBI and stroke recovery since there are some parallels and found some recent stem cell trial results that looked very hopeful. I tried to contact several research doctors but no response and there weren't any new trials soon or that i wanted to risk him being in the 50% placebo group so I looked for clinics internationally and found a few. after looking up reviews and distances we ended up choosing Bioexcelerator in Colombia. The clinic didn't have any experience treating his condition and was hesitant because of the rate of progression from continued alcoholism, but I advocated hard and they accepted him as a patient. 6 months after his hospitalization we were in Colombia and he got 110 million stem cells injected via IV(Not as needed) and 40 million stem cells injected intrathecally into his spinal cavity fluid to migrate to the brain (this was the main hopeful treatment). 48 hrs later he was noticeably sharper and clearer eyed, 72 hrs later he could remember details from earlier in the day or a movie he was watching much better, 2 weeks later he could still remember his trip to Colombia and what connecting flights he was on and where we stayed on the route from Colombia to Canada, etc. 3 weeks later he drove himself to his dental appointment, settled the bill and drove back home all on his own with his face frozen! and now he recites summaries of articles he read in the paper 1-3 days before.. It's been like a miracle. I felt like I needed to share my experience in case it helps even one other person, we still have a long road ahead and we pray his recovery continues at the current pace, we are now on week 4 after treatment. As positive as my father's response has been, I can't say it would be the same in all cases (i don't want to give false hope, but I do want to give hope and credit where it's due) we also don't know yet how far the treatment will help him get back to his former baseline, as you may know, WKS is considered as a spectrum from acute /temporary(Wernicke) to more chronic/permanent (korsakoff), FYI in my dad's case the doctors indicated based on his clinical diagnosis and MRIs he was likely mid spectrum with some definite permanent damages but hopeful prognosis on some recovery over many mths/yrs.

[@joshperez7731]

How did you go about getting these stem cells injected into him? How much did it cost? Who did you talk to? My father is going through this and I feel like someone lost on the dark.

[@chrism3188]

@@joshperez7731 hi Josh, my thoughts are with you and your family. I contacted Bioxcellerator, it was about 24k usd for intrathecal and IV injections.

[@rachelh4860]

wow. he quit drink for good yes?? thats amazing I'm glad he is getting better, praise God

[@Meezyb33]

I can’t believe I haven’t seen this before…. I am one of these people.. thank you for your video. I am talking to my psychiatrist this month about this thank you thank you thank you

[@victoriap4335]

My Grandfather?, Father and older Brother died from this. God Bless You & Good Luck!!💝

[@kimberlysimpson8766]

@@victoriap4335 so sorry to hear this! IAM 40 years old and have it. Non alcoholic Bariatric patient. I had labs that showed my Thiamine was depleted out of me due to complications from my Bariatric surgery and my labs sit on the doctor desk for almost two months and now I been diagnosed with this brand disease.

[@daynavirag5871]

I have this and its stunning accurate and scary experience, cirrhosis also. 32 yr old female, canada. WE undiagnosed months prior, KS came to be. 7 months sober and still coming back slowly.

[@jasonablah7702]

Can you expand on this? Can you temporarily have WE or KS? I thought if you had KS there is no way you'd be posting cogent responses on the internet. Would love to hear more about your situation.

[@Tommy88-]

I’m 33 American and I got it out of nowhere. I have been drinking hard core since I was 18, but now I’m on day 4 sober and feeling much better.

[@iamjoyt]

@@Tommy88- Awesome job! Keep going!!🫂🙏🏾

[@sandrabryant9866]

Good luck!!❤

[@chrismalcomson7640]

This descibes my ex wife to a tee... After years of very heavy drinking she lost her memory. She later went through a period where she got brittle bones and even broke her thigh bone falling over in a carpark, among many other broken bones. She has an apathy about life and seems to sit in the dark in her own thoughts. Her physical condition is awful and she has no desire to improve her situation. I take her out to a cafe every other day so I can make sure she eats something (she doesn't cook anymore) and she buys a case of beer on the way home where I drop her off. When I'm not there she doesn't drink but this has prolongued her agony. As her only carer all I can do is pay all her bills and give her money if she chooses to walk into town. I point out to her that she owns her own house with all the bills paid, she looks out of the back door to snow capped mountains in the distance and the sun shines 300 days a year. Who wouldn't want such a life? Yet, despite this she is desperately unhappy.. What more can I do when I have a life too?

[@alexmark8917]

You don’t owe your EX WIFE anything man.

[@wtficantgetausername]

how did she, first of all, get into such a state under your nose?

[@chrismalcomson7640]

@@wtficantgetausername You have to understand addicted people will lie and cheat to get what they want. She blamed it on her abusive ex husband at first. I showed understanding as most men would. As weeks turn into months and months into years things didn't get better despite my best efforts and 15 years later I ask myself the same question as you.. Believe me I considered forcing her to stop drinking but what kind of relationship does that make? You can only truely understand this if you live with it. There's no logic to it..

[@jamesrichardson8379]

@@alexmark8917 his ex wife is a living human. Thats all that matters.

[@jamesrichardson8379]

Please have an open mind and buy her marijuana. I stopped drinking 1.5 years ago on the night my mom told me i had Wernicke Syndrome and i researched all the symptoms i was living with. Knowing that alcohol was currently destroying my brain was enough for me to stop cold turkey... but marijuana helped so much as well. ESPECIALLY with withdrawal symptoms. If the woman does not work a job, get her some weed and just try to make sure she doesnt mess with any other drugs.

[@SoCalBry]

I rarely comment on KZbin feeds. This is an outstanding explanation and it's easy to follow and understand by the way you discussed the topic. Great work. I appreciate the content!

[@ItsMeKelso]

I’m on TPN and my Dietitian told me to research this condition , they are worried about me developing this because of nutritional deficiencies caused by bowel problems, I had my entire colon and rectum removed, I struggle with bowel blockages, so I’m limited in what I can eat. This is scary, they are going to add more B vitamins to my TPN , hopefully things improve...this is so scary

[@anitramoore9514]

Thank you for explaining this!

[@WorksopGimp]

Sounds like what my wife has, 35 years together so I know her, 100% thiamine deficiency she has had cancer treatment and hasn't been taking the thiamine and has suddenly stoped drinking after nearly 3 years of Vodca 3 to 4 Lts a week, shes curently in a psychiatric ward getting help, I personaly dont drink, it was and is very sad to watch someone litraly drinking themselves to death. Im going to campain that no alchollic drinks should be more than 3% its criminal to allow this to continue.

[@gachabeverage6242]

To establish that you have this condition you will need to have an MRI this will be able to check the brain for the condition. Then taking thiamine on a daily basis over a year or two will improve the memory and brain back to almost normal.

[@lioness2840]

What if the symptoms of this r showing but brain scans r clear jus slightly shrinkage

[@Strange9952]

I bought a b100 complex just an hour ago

[@MWorsa]

@@Strange9952 How has that worked out for you?

[@beLIEve77]

@@MWorsa Check for Magnesium deficiency if you plan to DIY. B1 needs Magnesium to function.

[@ciphernemo]

Thank you very much! This is a great explanation of the syndrome that explains the medical terminology associated with it. As someone who has a loved one in personal care with this condition, this really helps to better understand it.

[@LifewithMoon_Lolo]

My mother passed from wernickes encephalopathy. But was never a drinker. Which is so odd and confusing for me. She was a good eater, years before she had early stage colon cancer which was removed. But in the months before she passed she complained about her food running straight through her, like it wasn’t absorbing. Which i feel was the reason for wernickes encephalopathy which led to her death unfortunately. I just wish this could’ve been corrected before because it would’ve saved her

[@beLIEve77]

There is a non-alcoholic Wernicke that not many are aware. Was she diagnosed with B1 deficiency?

[@mushu_beardie2556]

It's late and I'm tired, so I'm kind of spitballing, but could she have had coeliac? I know that it prevents proper absorption of foods, and that could have in turn led to thiamine deficiency. Coeliac can develop later in life. You should maybe get tested in case you develop it. Whenever one member of a family has it, the whole family should get tested. Maybe you can prevent the same thing happening to you.

[@mylifeasadodo28]

The same thing happened to my dad, he wasn't a drinker. And one day he started to throw up a lot, like almost every day. We went to the hospital numerous times, but they couldn't find anything wrong. After 3 months my dad started to feel extreme dizziness. We went to the hospital again and again and still didn't find anything. One week after the dizziness started, my dad started to have delirium. We brought him to the hospital. He had amnesia and no idea when or where he was. The hospital couldn't find anything wrong. After 3 weeks they tested his vitamin B1. And came to the conclusion that my dad has Wernicke syndrome. But because they tested far too late, the syndrome was irreversible. My dad lives in a nursing home and is a shell of his former self. If only they tested his B1 earlier. I hope to raise awareness of un-alcohol-related B1 deficiency.

[@ohdwight]

medical criminalnegligence ; it is up to us to be informed ; doctors can be worthless!@@mylifeasadodo28

[@JonnyBoyy05]

I suffered from this and WE because I had an unknown condition that caused me to reject all food. So I barley ate for 3 months, but I have since made a nearly complete recovery and the only thing that I still struggle with is the nystagmus

[@The_HitchHikerrr]

So recovery is possible? I'm 25 and I'm scared that I have that smh. I was drinking lots since I was 18 but I would still eat and do regular activities

[@shaundstone]

Hi Jon, my name is Shaun, I was diagnosed with Wernicke's Encepalophay about 3 years ago, so I was VERY lucky to have had that intervention before Korsakoff set in. I had an MRI 6 months ago and there is now no trace of the Wernicke's which is great, but my Nystagmus is still not fully reversed. I have 'downbeat' so I have to be a little bit careful when walking down stairs, but looking straight ahead is perfect, and I've now been discharged by my Opthalmology Consultant. How severe is your Nystagmus if you don't mind me asking you this please?

[@JonnyBoyy05]

@@shaundstone It’s an upward nystagmus. I only ever notice it when I move my eyes left to right or if I have to move quickly. The doctors say I’ll probably live with it for the rest of my life.

[@shaundstone]

@@JonnyBoyy05 Hi mate, yes your Nystagmus sounds quite similar to mine. My consultant told me that when he first saw me while I was in hospital, mine was in the top ten of the worst cases he'd ever seen. So I'm releived to have recovered to the extent I have tbh! Good luck to you, and take care.

[@cirrusm.2829]

I should have found this channel way earlier!

[@andrewsanchez4906]

Real talk, I just had to look this up because of shamless and understand franks condition. It's so interesting how his brain function is decreasing so much

[@docducttape9270]

Bet he's ashamed now

[@iamjoyt]

From Shameless?

[@patricialongo5746]

Showing up for the MRI is too hard for the person I know who probably has Korsakoff's. Drinking was all she really did on purpose. She was a beautiful, intelligent 25 year old. Confabulation is dangerous!

[@sixmike]

My mom was just recently diagnosed with this and is exhibiting the symptoms to a "T". I would love to know more stories of people who have gone through this - both good and bad - if anyone has any resources.

[@infochristine]

My sister has this and it's devastating. She is 24 years old and deteriorating due to her alcoholism.

[@kimberlysimpson8766]

I have it but not from alcohol but bariatric patient and I had a prolonged Thiamine B-1 defency and went untreated for a while because my Bariatric surgeron failed to call me when my labs came back way to low. So now I been diagnosed with this brain disease. Only 40 years old

[@billsimms2511]

@@infochristine she has developed this problem and she’s only 24 years old?! That is horrible and I didn’t think it could happen that young

[@chrism3188]

My father (lifelong excessive beer drinker), stopped eating and slipped into a severely declining state over the pandemic resulting in him being unconscious on the ground for 2 days having lived off beer for a few weeks. He was diagnosed with WKS and spent 54 days in hospital (was stable and could've been released 2 weeks earlier but he was still recovering and his final discharge assessment would determine if he kept his medical power of attorney, so we kept him there hoping to get him over the bar). Luckily his organs recovered quickly in hospital but his walking (ataxia) and his memory (new short to long term memory) were severely compromised. We were told he would likely need full time care for rest of his life and he may never walk. I worked with him daily starting on day 15 in hospital through discharge for 60 days both physically and mentally and slow recovery was noticed, i got him to shuffle walk and remember things for 1 hr, then 2 then a day, but progress started to noticeably taper and was almost stagnant at around day 120. All the research I did basically said there is basically no treatment (given neuron brain damage) other than 100% no alcohol and vitamin B. But then I started looking into TBI and stroke recovery since there are some parallels and found some recent stem cell trial results that looked very hopeful. I tried to contact several research doctors but no response and there weren't any new trials soon or that i wanted to risk him being in the 50% placebo group so I looked for clinics internationally and found a few. after looking up reviews and distances we ended up choosing Bioexcelerator in Colombia. The clinic didn't have any experience treating his condition and was hesitant because of the rate of progression from continued alcoholism, but I advocated hard and they accepted him as a patient. 6 months after his hospitalization we were in Colombia and he got 110 million stem cells injected via IV(Not as needed) and 40 million stem cells injected intrathecally into his spinal cavity fluid to migrate to the brain (this was the main hopeful treatment). 48 hrs later he was noticeably sharper and clearer eyed, 72 hrs later he could remember details from earlier in the day or a movie he was watching much better, 2 weeks later he could still remember his trip to Colombia and what connecting flights he was on and where we stayed on the route from Colombia to Canada, etc. 3 weeks later he drove himself to his dental appointment, settled the bill and drove back home all on his own with his face frozen! and now he recites summaries of articles he read in the paper 1-3 days before.. It's been like a miracle. I felt like I needed to share my experience in case it helps even one other person, we still have a long road ahead and we pray his recovery continues at the current pace, we are now on week 4 after treatment. As positive as my father's response has been, I can't say it would be the same in all cases (i don't want to give false hope, but I do want to give hope and credit where it's due) we also don't know yet how far the treatment will help him get back to his former baseline, as you may know, WKS is considered as a spectrum from acute /temporary(Wernicke) to more chronic/permanent (korsakoff), FYI in my dad's case the doctors indicated based on his clinical diagnosis and MRIs he was likely mid spectrum with some definite permanent damages but hopeful prognosis on some recovery over many mths/yrs.

[@lyndawilson3297]

My soulmate of 36 yrs died last thurs of this, a massive stroke

[@juliolinares6636]

This is true- And Ive abused alcohol and I get episodes of all these symptoms everytime i start drinking again- I even had a seizure - But YOU CAN COME BACK. Trust me- ITS ALL IN YOUR SUPPLEMENTATION AND PROPER vitamin absorption- You JUST HAVE TO REMAIN SOBER

[@stephanielambert7279]

Which supplements and vitamins

[@mrhaci7747]

Korsakoff syndrome is mostly(like for 95% of the patients) irreversable. Maybe you had wernicke(early form of korsakoff which is reservable)

[@blackdogfive]

growing up it was just me my mom and her 26r a day habit then came Korsakoffs then came Cancer, all the sht. in between still makes me cry,frightened and angry.

[@Parasmunt]

A parent alcoholic is tough. This disease will test any relationship beyond the limit.

[@MadeInTheStruggleProgram]

I had this and severe Anorexia Nervosa. I also had prolonged amnesia and insomnia... It feels like dying slowly from your brain... The impending doom day in and out Was so scary. It also destroyed my taste buds for a while... alcohol is such a terrible drug that's accepted that we don't take it seriously 😢

[@heather16816]

In the past 4 years I have lost too close friends to this. It was so hard watching them slowly die simply because their body could no longer absorb vitamin B12.

[@mostafaomar3231]

Thanks for excellent explanation

[@cultofvapingcat181]

what about apathy? you made it seem like there was a point behind it?

[@Eyeamthewitness]

How soon after one stops drinking can you tell if they have karsakoffs?

[@songoftheday9468]

God bless you

[@gregbell3559]

My mom got this. She was put in a home ie care facility. My mom's longterm memory was ok up to when she had this last seizures and died three times. Her immediate memory was shot. I could go see her and an hour after she would not remember I was even there. She had other serious health issues. She had a hernia, which destroyed her esophagus. She was a healthy weight. In the last 8 years of her life she wasted away to 70 lbs wet. She would try to eat and spit it all up. It was horrible. The doctor could have fixed this but he ignored it and she wasted away. Horrible horrible time for me. My mom was my everything. My mom and best friend. To lose her killed a part of me . I've never been the same since. This is why I don't drink. Her brother got the same disease. My dad the same thing. It's a subject that has to be shown on social media alot more. People don't even know what this is and now they are seeing their drunk parents have these symptoms. Thank you for being this out. It dug up some pain for me but it will help people if this is brought to the forefront.

[@EdurtreG]

This is why giving high doses of thiamine, allready on the suspicion of Wernicke, is imperative. Not orally, but by I.M.-injection or I.V.

[@shaundstone]

I had IV Thiamine, was in hospital for 3 weeks. It basically saved me from becoming dependant on living in a fucking care home at the age of 50. I was PROPER lucky.

[@kyliebeechall3984]

@@shaundstone I can assure you that you’re PROPER LUCKY. My mum ended up in hospital with the same.. only her outcome wasn’t as lucky, she DID end up in one of those “fuckin care homes”…and yes your assumptions of them are correct! My mum was left in her own shite for hours on end and she was literally psychotic! I fought hard to get her home..and I fucking won!!! She used to beg me every day to let her come home to die..she only lasted 3 weeks with us and passed away just before Xmas. This illness is absolutely devastating on every level imaginable. She came out of hospital a bed ridden,tube fed(because her brain told her she would choke if she ate)child. My only comfort is I was able to care for her in her final days

[@Parasmunt]

@@kyliebeechall3984 Horrific.

[@mammadingo9165]

This is the saddest thing. Is there any chance of recovery ? 😞 Perhaps it's Wernicke's, we have all suffered . Not understanding my partner has had a disease all these years alcoholism is a disease not an addiction !! Immediate intervention required . !

[@kimberlysimpson8766]

If it has progressed to the KORSAKOFF then no their is no getting better from it. I have this and was non alcoholic But bariatric patient. The specilist put me on hospice not long ago. No getting better from it and only thing you can do is take Thiamine and pray it gets no worser...

[@willieboy8798]

confabulation is for denial and normalizing memory gaps ..... a person was at a party and was so drunk they didnt remember everything right so they confabulate the missing pieces, perhaps to remember the good time!

[@NefariousEnough]

Thanks!!

[@missdevil6667]

Maybe an odd question but how much similar is korsakov syndrome to covert narcist personality disorder? For a while now i'm almost sure my dad has covert narcist personality disorder But he also drinks a lott without having a healty diet He also manufacture a lott of false believes and being absolute sure they are true what is a symptome of both

[@ethanpetruso3217]

Im in the same boat with my mom. I can tell it's one of those two things but am having trouble determining which

[@narcissistinjurygiver2932]

i was thinking of this as well. I know a malignant narc who I exposed. He drank until he got a wet brain. I am very happy for him. seems to me that a wet brain is just that with a narc who remains the same. lying scumbags who are in a fixed state and now have a fatal injury. my dad is also a covert malignant narc and a drunk. He just believes his own lies. but this disease is the end result of being a narc. they get what they deserve

[@samly6471]

@@narcissistinjurygiver2932 ji

[@mariehalsey8892]

I'm glad to have found this....learning and awareness are necessary in life.

[@Strange9952]

Your vindictiveness isn't appealing. People with narcissistic personality disorder are suffering beyond what you are capable of understanding. These people were damaged at a young age, and they have fuxked up emotional reasoning. Sure, what they do to other people isn't nice, but in a narcissist mind it makes total sense. I was raised by a mom with narcissistic personality disorder by the way. You need to loosen your ego a bit, quit living like a victim, and learn forgiveness

[@r.carrico]

Thank you

[@EdurtreG]

Allways allways take thiamine before restarting to eat as an alcoholic or after a binge or even drinking daily some. Alcohol destroys thiamine on various levels. Your dig system then also needs thiamine for its processes and depletes the bit you have left from your spinal fluids. The socalled healthy hangover-breakfasts have the opposite effect if you do not take thiamine first.

[@Strange9952]

Its amazing how this isn't taught to people, I had no idea about this, truly terrifying stuff.

[@mariekatherine5238]

I had a neighbor like this, a very heavy drinker whose ex moved back in with her as her carer. Since he owned the house, it made sense. He had his quarters on the one side and remodeled the other side to be handicapped equipped. He’d bring her into the garden on sunny days and she’d be content to sit there until he brought her back inside. If one didn’t know her, her stories about various people and her activities could sound perfectly normal. But they were all confabulation; she lived in a fantasy world or parallel universe of her imagination. When it got to where she was bedridden, her ex and son placed her in a care home and sold the house. I wouldn’t imagine she lived much longer because she’d stopped talking and had Parkinsonian like shaking and the masked face.

[@hugh2hoob668]

My dad was an alcoholic for DECADES But he always ate pork chops and eggs great sources of b1

[@JayDelaCruz3]

thank you sir

[@anatvlasov8636]

Great job, I would love to have those slides if it is possible to help me with my paper if it is possible to download it.

[@kylewebber9185]

I’m 21 years old and suffer from seriously bad cfs and I drink alcohol every night a small amount I wish I didn’t but it just somehow helps a lot with my cognitive function, cognitive function is really bad and alcohol before bed seems to take away most of my brain fog improving my cognitive function

[@debrawright62]

Please check out Craig Beck. He can help. You have the power over the poison.

[@dqreps]

I'm so fucked.....

[@iamjoyt]

I’m sorry you’re going through this🙏🏾🫂

[@scienceMicroguy77]

This sounds terrifying for the person who is experiencing it because they lose or they are.

[@oldonetwoable]

When assessing for korsecoffs, how can a Dr tell when a patient is confabulating if they don't know that the story the patient is telling them is made up?

[@mangos2888]

Million dollar question right here

[@yournameshere]

By cross-checking their stories with known facts or simply by speaking to family members who recognize that their loved one is confabulating

[@DarkenedSpell]

Some things they can't know, but some other are obvious. My father got transported to the hospital in ambulance for this; he always said he came on his bike, or with his car etc.

[@BreCore6]

How do I get to the original video?

[@MaxHarden]

Bright light bright light

[@ItSamiraclelol]

The previous video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4LRqYV7pax8gs0

[@user-bn4de4gi5p]

So this is a concern for elderly alchoholics

[@mrm1029]

I would please

[@PS-py8zf]

I'm sure my new neighbour has this 🤦‍♂️

[@RichRich1955]

If an older alcoholic with this syndrome sees equal aged non drinkers that are healthy then it has to occur to them that years of boozing has harmed them.

[@weld_baby]

Dr house brought me here

[@SamanthaVera-jb6lt]

at some point, is it genetic?

[@MrHornet72]

🤦🤦🤦🤦