2004 Japan Open BJJ Championship Koji Komuro (Kosen Judo) vs Shinya Aoki (Paraestra BJJ)
Пікірлер: 214
@aluisiofsjr3 жыл бұрын
"...and *with me formerly being a Judoka*, I can surely say that they share similar moves with Judo..." -Yuki Nakai (Shinya Aoki's coach, Paraestra BJJ and Japanese BJJ President). kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZTJZnuQppZ7e5o
@junon2 жыл бұрын
Yuki Nakai was also from a Kosen team.
@aluisiofsjr2 жыл бұрын
@@junon yeap. He was. Since his first fight against Royce Gracie he switched to BJJ. Now he is the president of IBJJF in Japan.
@arantxaurrutia09 ай бұрын
Two legends of the sport. Koji is a monster, Aoki is a bad, bad man. Catching Koji with a flying armbar is like shooting him with his own gun.
@reubenbaldegger61212 ай бұрын
Who’s who?
@joaohenrique-uq7cb13 сағат бұрын
I don't now too bro lol
@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv2 жыл бұрын
Reading the comments it would seem to be a misleading title if they both studied Kosen Judo and BJJ.
@gossen710927 күн бұрын
Hangisi judo ?
@yogsothoth-tz2bu2 жыл бұрын
He is also a kosen guy, kosen judokas are specialist in flying arm bar
@mikeabbot46162 жыл бұрын
So who won?
@memysurname75213 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. Congratulations to him.
@user-lt6og7np9g7 ай бұрын
青木がコムロックにメチャクチャ敬意を称してるの良い😢
@AramayaArmani2 жыл бұрын
I mean Aoki literally did both sports.
@RandomUser_online2 жыл бұрын
That flying arm bar daaaamn
@AlunsSomatics3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Judo technique. Katsuhiko Kashiwazaki was using it in the 1980's.
@wayne47able3 жыл бұрын
both of these guys are BJJ black belts and Kosen practitioners!!!
@ezemeza13633 жыл бұрын
Bjj is kosen judo. Brazilians took it and rename it.
@wayne47able3 жыл бұрын
@@ezemeza1363 BJJ is not Kosen Judo. The Gracies were never taught by a Kosen instructor. They practiced traditional Kodokan Judo and over the years they modified it. Started to train without the gi, incorporated catch wrestling techniques, and around the 90s innovations of the guard started to be introduced. Stop it
@ezemeza13633 жыл бұрын
@@wayne47able ok. That is the Gracie version. The real version is that bjj is just kosen judo withoy a kimono. That's the only revolution
@wayne47able3 жыл бұрын
@@ezemeza1363 No that’s not the Gracie version. The Gracie version is that they were taught by Maeda which was not true. They were taught by Jacintho Ferro who was a Black Belt under Maeda and then later taught Geo Omori who was a Kodokan Black belt. There is absolutely no link between the Gracies and Kosen, BJJ and Kosen were developed separately.
@aluisiofsjr3 жыл бұрын
@@wayne47able , Aoki trains with Yuki Nakai at Paraedtra BJJ (the president of the Japanese *BJJ* confederation). Koji Komuro also trained in Paraestra BJJ but he he represents the Kosen Judo.
@YourBestFriendforToday8 ай бұрын
Aoki is a high level talent.
@MC-tm2uy8 ай бұрын
If you allow flying armbar then you should allow body slamming. I am always a believer that if you allow a technique in tournaments then automatically the counter for that technique should also be allowed
@dianecenteno52752 жыл бұрын
Where is the BJJ???🤔
@edjones6837Ай бұрын
In the blue gi! 😅
@combatsportsarchive76323 ай бұрын
@aluisiofsjr Hey uploader, I have two questions just for curiousity. How popular and widespread BJJ schools are in Japan? And what the Japanese side of Judo community thinks of BJJ?
@metooo-zo6dd7 ай бұрын
Very respectful to each other. I love it. Pleasure to watch
@makikomiАй бұрын
Apart from the over-exuberant celebration.
@jaskakrapi1 Жыл бұрын
Good judo technique!
@Nyumc9927 күн бұрын
Don’t forget guys. Bjj , is actually jjj. Adapted by the Brazilian family. 🖖
@sarahsouza815219 күн бұрын
no
@Upflickk2 күн бұрын
That's a good ref right there
@brennomelo40072 жыл бұрын
Aluísio me tira uma dúvida sobre lapiseira, eu vi q vc comenta lá no vlog das lapiseiras, qual seria a melhor escolha entre a graph 1000 for pro ou staedtler 925 25/35 ?Em termos de pegada ,qualidade e etc ?Fico bastante grato pela ajuda !!!!
@aluisiofsjr2 жыл бұрын
Não gosto do grip liso e emborrachado da Graph 1000, prefiro o grip serrilhado da 925 25/35, fora que relançaram a versão negra fosca dela, que é muito bonita por sinal.
@brennomelo40072 жыл бұрын
@@aluisiofsjr Valeu irmão!!!!Humilde d+ tmj!!!!!!
@brennomelo40072 жыл бұрын
@@aluisiofsjr Irmão aonde eu posso comprar as lapiseiras?Compro ultimante no aliexpress ...
@Morganator Жыл бұрын
Both are Judoka’s…that’s Koji Komuro..Kodokan Judo and the other Shinya Aoki also Kodokan Judo, originally Waseda Judo and Elementary School Judo champion. Both judokas who have compete in BJJ. This is nit BJJ v judo. Kosen representatives would be from one of the imperial schools or kosen (technical type college)
@matarahmadal_atif93598 ай бұрын
So what are you saying now is non of'em was kosen judo player.
@MauroLeal-rb2bt3 ай бұрын
O jiu jitsu brasileiro e brabo demais nisso Ju jitsu brasileiro e muito bom ainda tem aparte do sem kimono que acho muito firme
Jumping arm bar where you land on the back of your head? I don’t understand how that is considered a victory.
@MauroLeal-rb2bt3 ай бұрын
Caracas bela finalização
@Gates2Aion10 ай бұрын
ah he set him up by holding his gee above his shoulder, he then shifted his weight so the dude in the white has his feet be hide him and squared him up at the same time, then with the hand holding the shoulder he was able to pivot into a flying arm bar and get it deep in because he was off balanced
@coldwar19773 жыл бұрын
0:58 WOAH
@CN.014673 жыл бұрын
WOW
@Oli1ize3 жыл бұрын
Nice win!
@m5a1stuart833 жыл бұрын
Why dont he use Kani Bazami?
@masvideos11 Жыл бұрын
Bjj=kosen judo. kosen judo was what Maeda taught the Gracie
@leftymariano1020 Жыл бұрын
No it's not I idiot he studied at the kodokan. Kosen judokas were in Kyoto schools which is nowhere near Tokyo. Mitsuyo maeda taught kodokan judo or (kano ju jutsu) when he went to Brazil. The only reason people think he taught them kosen judo is because they focused more on the ground than throws. Before maeda came to Brazil he traveled around the world as a prize fighter. He fought many different styles beating almost all of them. But he once lost one of his fights to a catch wrestler and after he lost he trained in catch wrestling to incorporate it into his judo. (Ground techniques) but what u forget is in the kodokan back then they did plenty of groundwork alot more tgan today it wasnt 90 percent throws 10 percent ground it was more like 70 to 30 so all he did was use the catch wrestling to polish up his judo newaza. The Gracies also wanted to prize fight vale tudo and wanted to have a perfect self defense art for the street and felt that ground techniques were more effective for stopping an opponent since 85 percent of fights end up on the ground. Learn ur history before u start making claims mitsuyo maeda wrote a book read it
@danle318127 күн бұрын
WRONG !
@horiturk33318 күн бұрын
There is no such thing as Brazilian JJ.
@aluisiofsjr18 күн бұрын
@@horiturk333 🤣
@yuhengleung53192 жыл бұрын
The winner is shinya aoki !
@breannestahlman59532 жыл бұрын
Which is kasen and which is bjj?
@moefinesse98782 жыл бұрын
BJJ will always have multiple patches. lol. So the winner is BJJ.
@willyhwang1059Ай бұрын
my problem of BJJ is all they want to do is crack chicken bones
@israelcanada89698 ай бұрын
Who is who?
@th-vg4oi7 ай бұрын
Blue is Aoki
@illtownjackboy60563 жыл бұрын
Who won bjj or kosen judo
@aluisiofsjr3 жыл бұрын
BJJ, Shinya Aoki.
@mariamamart80863 жыл бұрын
@@aluisiofsjr Do you remember yourself that Shinya Aoki studied and also he is high degree in KOSEN JUDO Also , because in his Biography says that !!!!!!!! 💪🤙👌 😉😉😉😉😉
@aluisiofsjr3 жыл бұрын
@@mariamamart8086 , Not anymore. Shinya Aoki studied only Judo (I'm not aware if he studied in the Imperial Universities). He is student of Yuki Nakai, who studied Kosen Judo, but Yuki Nakai is a BJJ fighter and his gym is Paraestra BJJ. He switched from Kosen Judo to BJJ after his fight with Rickson Gracie. Also Koji Komuro (the Kosen Judoka) studied BJJ with Yuki Nakai at Paraestra BJJ. In fact, all Kosen Judokas have to compete in BJJ because there is no newsa competition for them after the university. ;-)
@mariamamart80863 жыл бұрын
@@aluisiofsjr in Kodokan Judo they can't use Ne - Waza because Jigoro Kano 's rules for stand Judo Game !!!!!!!! But the name of these 2 both Koji Kimura and Shinya Aoki are still included in the list of Kosen Judoka Fighters !!!!!!!!!!!
@mariamamart80863 жыл бұрын
@@aluisiofsjr In Australia , Filippines , Japan and others Countries the Kosen Judokas are making great championsips nowadays of you want to underatand better just checks out the CURRENTLY VIDEOS 💪🤙👌 😉😉😉😉
@chuckgreen36292 жыл бұрын
Kosen Judo vs Kosen Judo/shoot wrestling
@FedericoGalletta-fc1um6 ай бұрын
Koji it's Kodokan not Kosen
@moefinesse98782 жыл бұрын
Aoki is a BB in judo but he never uses it.
@Quidoute11 ай бұрын
whats ur point
@moefinesse987811 ай бұрын
@@Quidoute he never uses judo. That's the point genius
@mmongiello7228 ай бұрын
A flying armbar is a judo move.
@arap82173 жыл бұрын
Kosen Judo is a ruleset, not a style.
@Sto79Be3 жыл бұрын
What does that even mean really? When you think about it BJJ is a ruleset, Judo is a ruleset, WTF Taekwondo is a ruleset, ITF Taekwondo is a ruleset. I could carry on, but my point is all styles of fighting are affected by their ruleset, philosophy, and strategies.
@arap82173 жыл бұрын
@@Sto79Be In this context, it means that the title should be "Judo vs BJJ" imo, as Kosen Judo is not a separate style of Judo, it's still Judo, but with with a different competition/sparring ruleset. That's all I was referring to.
@cristobalheiss53492 жыл бұрын
true, but when the ruleset differs, technique emphasis differs, and different „breeds“ of practitioners are developed. When a judoka says he practices „Kosen Judo“ (unlike unless he studies on some of the traditional japanese universities), you expect from him a strong newaza. At the end, BJJ also comes from judo with a different rule set emphasis. So I think to add the label „Kosen“ is totally valid to make a more accurate description.
@bruceparker61422 жыл бұрын
Yes. The Oda school engaged in hikkikomi/pulling guard and taking the fight to the ground whereas Kano preferred throws into newaza. My understanding was that Kano was not into guard pulling and spending inordinate time on the ground.
@jaymorris34682 жыл бұрын
Stop being silly
@MrBlackbutang3 жыл бұрын
No pho king way!
@MauroLeal-rb2bt6 ай бұрын
Caraca dó chave de braço voadora
@raymondr28212 жыл бұрын
Nice
@MMZS5287 ай бұрын
shinya started in judo though
@user-dk1yy5gw9kАй бұрын
No that's a aoki shinya he is Japanese
@aluisiofsjrАй бұрын
@@user-dk1yy5gw9k , yes. He was Yuki Nakai’s student at that time.
@ca1000sa93 жыл бұрын
Cadê o bjj ??
@tudosomadoetudoquesomosbjj78263 жыл бұрын
Oss
@rodrigomusicaepalavradosen3815 Жыл бұрын
Quem atleta judô quem jiu-jitsu !por confunde muito
@aluisiofsjr Жыл бұрын
Shinya Aoki é o atleta de Jiu-Jitsu que deu o arm-lock voador no lutador de Judo (Koji Komuro).
@reddwarf3780 Жыл бұрын
Both are judokas 😄😄😄
@marcao63452 жыл бұрын
Bjj é Judô
@compass3309 Жыл бұрын
Eu treino os dois e não é judô apesar de ter a mesma origem
@mariamamart80863 жыл бұрын
Both 2 are KOSEN JUDOKAS Because in their both BIOGRAPHIES SAYAS THAT THEY STUDIED AND both are high degree in KOSEN JUDO 👌🤙💪 😉😉😉😉
@aluisiofsjr3 жыл бұрын
Shinya Aoki is a BJJ fighter from Paraestra BJJ.
@chimp83503 жыл бұрын
@@aluisiofsjr lol Shinya was a judoka before becoming a bjj practitioner
@aluisiofsjr3 жыл бұрын
@@chimp8350 , and??? What is your point? Also many BJJ world champions trained Judo some point in their life...
@chimp83503 жыл бұрын
@@aluisiofsjr but Judo is more effective
@mariamamart80863 жыл бұрын
@@aluisiofsjr He is a Kosen Judoka too my friend !!!!!!! Have you ever already read their 2 Biohraphies !?!? 🧐🤔🧐🤔