Kove 450 Rally - You CAN'T TRUST My Review Alone..

[@eveRide]

Pardon the re-upload. Feathers were ruffled, and I hope the very slightly edited re-upload does some un-ruffling.

[@Nerb1]

Who's feathers were ruffled? Spill the beans! I enjoyed the review first time around, even though I have no interest in it.

[@arainmk]

If they get ruffled so easily, let them be ruffled

[@ericunderwing]

do a walk round video. bike on the bench. take the plastics off. show the frame. show the hidden tools the kind of parts used. bit of a bench review. with the good camara work you do. will be intresting to see air filters oil filter how its pacaged keep on, keeping on!!!

[@wobblysauce]

I liked it also, watched this and didn’t spot a difference

[@CtownJS]

Don't kowtow to the fragile feather bearers. Enjoy the bike, knowing they'll miss out on what NONE of the big 7 manufacturers had the balls to offer the public.

[@Cabooseified]

Such an underrated KZbin creator. I've been watching you since the RX3. It's amazing how far you have come and how great your editing and reviews have come

[@barronmoody4416]

Always interesting how resistant and upset some people can be over change. I am old enough to remember hearing how Japanese cars/bikes would never compete, how fuel injection was the end of anything performance related on any car/bike.. yet here we are. It's easy people.. if it ain't your thing, then keep doing your thing. Have fun, get out and ride, and try something new if you want.

[@maxflight777]

May I add electric cars to your list? They are clearly better than ice … but draw so much hate!

[@nickg2431]

@@maxflight777No you cant! Why exactly are they better? Range/value after 5 years/initial purchase cost/combined increased insurance and recovery costs to the public/fire risk/wait times at garage for a charge./servicing only available through main dealers/easy insurance write off.Serviceable ICE cars are still in service at minimal cost to their owners years later.

[@mxbadboy263]

This video is most truthful I have ever watched. I don't believe any review done by Ian over at Big Rock Moto anymore because he has become an aftermarket parts sales channel. Every bike is great until it's not. Every bike needs a ton of aftermarket parts and of course with affiliate links. Same thing goes for The Dork in the Road. Will the Kove 450 be any good long term? That is for time to tell. I'll stay on the sidelines for now.

[@RadRaven]

I know exactly how you feel! Although there’s no affiliate program where I live and the EU is still behind in certifying this bike Euro 5, I’ve been sticking my neck for this bike since it first showed up on my radar! Before the historic Dakar participation! Even before it was rebranded Kove, from Kolove! If 3 Dakar finishes weren’t enough, even though some never kept raving about bikes like Yamaha that have had 5 out of 5 DNF at Dakar, even with a penalised extra engine swap 3 stages from the end… there’s no logical reasoning behind people’s opinions… 🤷‍♂️ Your Brutally Honest reviews are legendary and have never led us wrong!!! So just keep doing what you’re doing!! If I could order one from your affiliate link, I would!!! But right now we’re just praying the bloody EU rules don’t forbid another awesome bike, for the sake of the hypocritical saving the environment cause… You rock!!! 💪😎💪

[@tiziwind]

Great....but what do you think about the kove 800 x rally...I think it can be the queen.....it is only 20 kg more ..what do you think?

[@maxflight777]

What’s it got over a 450KTM EXC-F? (i) A subframe so I can carry a small tent and camp gear (ii) Taller gearing that allow tarmac sections (iii) Slightly better wind and weather protection

[@simonbravo2825]

I'm surprised nobody mentioned it. In all it's awesomeness, the Kove 450 remains a very high maintenance bike needing a significant amount of times and parts to keep it in top shape. You must be the kind of owner who likes to spend almost as much times on working on the bike than riding it to really appreciate it. High performance comes with high maintenance, the Kove is no exception. What makes it different is parts availability. Unless you have a dealer with readily available parts in your neighborhood then you may have to miss riding it while waiting for parts.

[@toine0002]

I love your choice of music in your videos. Awesome. Would be great to get the name of the songs as I struggle to find them sometimes ;) Get well soon mate

[@mfranquemont1884]

EveRide- any updates on the Kove 450? Issues of ownership? Please let us know all the good and bad.

[@darrylmoffett8323]

I love your videos but I very jealous of your backyard where you get to ride.

[@BigStreams_]

Is this a re-upload? I swear I just watched one similar to this by title and thumbnail last week

[@BigStreams_]

I definitely watched the dirt bike test videos last Tuesday (the ones linked in the description) lol

[@odsttrooper08]

It has to be. I watched it too

[@stoicthedog]

Ahh...but this version is special. It doesn't have folk bitching about China... ...yet! 😂

[@steveh545]

😂

[@billcotton1551]

I think it is a rebroadcast, I'm sure I remember the part about Jimmy Lewis.

[@jaciek189]

The bike looks cool. I'll give it a closer look in 5 years to see how reliable it is. If Kove exists so long. I wont pay $9000 to ba beta tester.

[@enduromotorradtouren]

Thanks for the link. If I'd live in the US or UK, I would have ordered the Kove 450 blindly. Just to find out by myself if it's the unicorn most people claim it is. But there is neither German importer nor a Euro 5 homologation. Well, maybe after the EICMA show in Milan next month. All the best, Günter/Nürnberg

[@fredpetit335]

I am not doubting that the Kove 450 is a very good bike. My problem though is that for a Chinese bike it is priced like a Japanese or an European bike. It is almost the price of a Tenere 700 and I will probably buy the Tenere instead.

[@joaom4993]

Comparing with real rally bikes from other factories? What other real rally bike compares to?

[@sprocketdiver190]

Tenere is more than twice the price in au

[@pabloricardodetarragon2649]

A Tenere built like a Kove with the same quality of suspensions, frame steel, carbon parts and general equipment would easily cost more than 22000 USD. The Tarres bike is even more expensive. Compare the comparable, the Tenere is a trail for riding gently on easy tracks with cheap 200 mm suspensions you have to change if you're making serious offroad, the Kove is a almost racing rally bike with fully tunable 300 mm suspensions, 30 l tanks, rally tower etc... If you want to compare the Kove, compare it with KTM (the EXC is 13000 USD, if you want to equip as a rally bike you'll have to spend at least 5000 USD more, and the true rally is at 30000 USD), the Fantic 450 rally costs around 17000 USD.

[@Angry-Lynx]

​People comparing this with tenere clearly have no idea what they talk about.... Comparison to 690 would make way more sense but still isn't valid. Just like with Kove 800x, this haven't got any competition really, nothing to compare on the market. KTM rally bike cost absurd Money so not comparable too

[@mikehope7940]

My only real question is how does it compare to a hopped up $5,000 DRZ400E? Because lets be honest 20year old Japan is tough to beat.

[@drmechristopher]

Great review. Excellent information as always. Ignore the trols.

[@mxbadboy263]

Went to the Kove web site. All the rally's are listed as competition bikes only. Does it come with a motorcycle title or an off road title? If it comes with an off road title then your SOL here in Indiana to title it for the street. I don't see this bike of being a good fit for us riders in the mid west where we have wooded single track with mud but out west is a different story.

[@barronmoody4416]

Also an FSE 450r will be my next bike.

[@PeterParker-ot8pl]

I saw it in person at the adv bike gathering. It wouldn't even start........ NEXT!

[@flat-out882]

The promotional videos all claimed the dash could be used as a sat nav linking with think rider app - off road gpx files could then be viewed through the dash whilst speed and basic info were still retained but not showing so prominently nobody is covering this - does it work???

[@stiingya]

Had me sold! Course when you click the link it goes to 404 and there is no 450Rally info on their site... SO, they may make a good moto, but they need to work on their website! :)

[@randomfreedomlovingguy1536]

Need to get this over to Daily Rider and get a review on it!!!

[@ramonmejias2178]

Hi I'm interested in the kove my inseam is 32 inches is this bike good for me

[@jjustj]

Yo Tyler, whats frquency of oil changes and how hard are they? Thanks

[@utdesertghost199]

Let Gabe ride it for a couple days. He's pretty good at flogging the crap out of bikes and finding their weak spots... 😂

[@matlock77]

Have you been able to plate this bike? I know they are releasing a street legal version, but some states are more lax on requiring this.

[@SergioromeroAlcántara24]

Plate 51 . Original 49😅

[@Vallecaucanisimo]

Since you offer an affiliate link, I cant trust it…. The tittle is rather fitting.

[@ronsexton3685]

What helmet are you wearing in the video? Dang it! Include your gear list in the description please!

[@darrencantillon6377]

Did you have to re-release this video ? pretty sure I watched this last week ?

[@tjworsham1272]

Yes, I'm pretty sure he did

[@ChooseBrian]

Feathers ruffled? Crazy. I’d never RE upload. Let the feathers stay ruffled. The first video was fine.

[@jeffwilliam7500]

Great review 👏 thanks

[@SolivagantJourney]

How does the discount work?

[@AA-wd2or]

You should also test AJP PR 7 650 fom Portugal..look similar concept to me

[@RichardWeslow]

Keep a eye on the oil some owners are seeing metal .Me I like the bike but support is suspect,

[@TeamGeezer]

Take any of these reviews with a grain of salt. Most of these tests, the riders only have the bike for a short time so longevity is an unknown. They also get caught up in the newst/latest/greatest syndrome. It is also really tough to be completely impartial. I watched a review of the new at the time Afrika Twin. The bike they compared it against won every category except street comfort. Which bike they they proclaim as the winner? The Afrika Twin of course. It lost 9 out of ten categories yet, they still picked it. They forgot to mention that they were both Honda fanboys. Remember all the hype over the Ural? Everyone wanted one, turns out it is a POS. They fall apart around you. At this point in time, I'd stay away from this bike for the next year or two. Too many unknowns and what will dealer/warrenty support be like? Who knows? A FB page isn't the answer, all the fanboys will migrate there and you won't get an unbiased perspective.

[@Kingsoupturbo]

Hard to believe, but people don't do any research anymore, or have any perspective, and from their narrow perspective believe they know everything, try not to take it personally if you can.

[@DigitalSamTV]

Why would u take this over something like the honda crf450L? (Coild easily throw a screen and some fairing on the honda).

[@justsomedude445]

look at the spec sheet

[@Marco81323]

I guess because the Kove is already 1000$ cheaper before you start to add a rally kit and aftermarket tanks to the Honda

[@stevebiron3036]

Several reasons...cost is one $10,600 ($9999.+ freight/set up) to start vs. $8799 (with disc code).. Then you absolutely have to uncork the Honda with an ECU system upgrade then buy a pipe to accompany to stop flame outs, herky jerky, power delivery etc.. That alone is another $2000 to $3000. Then add a rally tower and fairing..add another $2500 to $3500. and Bob's your uncle.... no wait... then you need a larger gas tank (2 gal stock vs.just shy of 8gal for Kove) for $400 to $500. and you still only have "half" the capacity of the Kove. Lots more that the Kove has over on the Honda like lack of vibration (or substantially less the Honda, I had one) damper mounted handlebars, TFT screen, real rally foot pegs, bracket for steering damper is stock. Just using the bottom of my estimated $$ your at $17,000 ish. vs. $8799.00.

[@justsomedude445]

10 more hp and literally 4-times the fuel capacity !! and thats just a 10second scan of the spec sheet no it sound like a huge step up machine for sure !! i hope other manufacturers are payin attention and will follow suit @@Marco81323

[@DigitalSamTV]

@@stevebiron3036 Good reply and info , thanks

[@IRLtrolls]

I trust your opinion but I don’t trust a Chinese bike to get in and out of the middle of no where or take me across the country. Shoot I have a hard time trusting a Ducati or KTM. At first I thought the Kove’s engine was a KTM 450 and after more googling it seems like the engine is totally new and totally Chinese. What happens when you ride 40 miles deep into the desert and this thing inevitably blows up? Hope you have cell service and I hope you have the patience to wait on parts for the engine (if you can even get parts) and I hope you’re mechanically inclined to work on it yourself because most shops won’t even change a tire on a Chinese bike for liability reasons.

[@leeroykelly781]

I kind of hoped that this bike would more so scare other manufacturers into nutting up and producing more competitive bikes (especially the Japanese manufacturers). Then again we have to consider things like general interest/demand, regulations per country, and all that stuff.

[@IRLtrolls]

@@leeroykelly781 Lol what do you mean more competitive bikes? Do you want them to make hover bikes that run on solar power? I’m genuinely interested in what bike you want and expect the current manufacturers from Japan to make

[@leeroykelly781]

@@IRLtrolls to not be afraid to more boldly (with proper R&D of course) update their line ups and not only do minor differences (“new bold graphics”).

[@IRLtrolls]

@@leeroykelly781 Suzuki is the only manufacturer that’s lagging behind with the “Bold new graphics” they have really been phoning it in but they did redeem themselves recently with the Vstrom 800DE The other big 3 I think are doing a great job in different categories of bike. Africa Twin/TransAlp from Honda. Tenere 700 and the MT lineup from Yamaha and the H2 supercharged line up from Kawisaki are all pushing the envelope of performance while maintaining Japanese reliability

[@leeroykelly781]

@@IRLtrolls I was mostly focusing on the lighter dual sport bikes rather than the heavier adventure bikes which I should’ve specified, but you’re right. Also I just remembered that, and correct me if I’m wrong, that the crf300l (more so the non-rally version) did start to shed some weight compared to earlier 250ls.

[@GonzoMallorca]

Beautiful music

[@mm.takeum]

Top top top

[@ogasi1798]

screw ruffled feathers - never be apologetic to fools ! i would like to see how this bike looks under its dress - i can not be alone on that 🙂

[@chrispfeifer7628]

People who mentioned ethical issues with support for anything out of China should really look at the history of our own country. The US has been guilty of some very questionable episodes. Just not sure that we Americans should be throwing stones, you know, cuz of glass houses and stuff.

[@QuarterLifeCrysis]

Wooo! First view

[@MrDrivesafe]

Jimmy!!!!

[@nearkolob]

Tyler gave the legendary CRF450X a poor review. He is in love with bad bikes. He loves the archaic DRZ400 and the absolute pig of a bike the KLX650. There is no better bike than the CRF450X.

[@dr.rodneyjthornelldds3648]

I was with Tyler on several rides where he was on the CRF 450X and can attest to how terrible that thing was. Maybe he got a lemon, but it kept having all kind of issues dealing with the terrain we were riding.

[@OldBeaterGarage]

Legendary at what? Eating Valves? When it comes to being deep in the desert unsupported I'm taking an old XR over a CRFX anyday. DRZ400s might be Archaic in your view but they are undoubted reliable, the first one I bought lived a hard life and the last time I saw it it had 38,000 miles on it. You're never getting that life out of a CRFX.

[@MfrOffroadRiderNorCal]

I know I watched this vid already also ??

[@lophophorawilliamsii9740]

bruh why do you shill this bike so hard.

[@soilsmanadv6673]

Is the Kove 450 the Honda 750-4 of dual sports for the 2020's? Go back to the Japanese dogma of the early 1970's.

[@justsomedude445]

i watched every video ive found on this bike and read reviews as well as reading the spec sheet ect... honestly its the china thing thats the holdback for me , i want one otherwise

[@donniebunkerboi9975]

Dude, it's 2023 and you're still consuming cold war propaganda

[@justsomedude445]

LoL nope not at all , quite the contrary !! you are correct it is 2023 maybe pay attention to some world news and events @@donniebunkerboi9975

[@AboutaMileAdventures]

There is more evidence now than ever about how inhuman china treats it citizens. @@donniebunkerboi9975

[@JohnSmith-rp8uh]

@@donniebunkerboi9975 It is most definitely not "cold war propaganda". Anyone that's paying attention can see that China is a country that seems to be on the brink of economic collapse. The best product available with the most honorable, well intentioned company possible (which Kove seems to be) could still leave the consumer with a bike that won't function do to complete lack of parts and service from a company that no longer exists if China folds. China's economic prospects look very poor at the moment. I will wait and see.

[@wraith511802003]

@@donniebunkerboi9975 It is not propaganda, dont be a npc.

[@jimperry4420]

Chinese motorcycle salesman. Sad.

[@thomascaldwell184]

...badger dung? lol

[@moorepower13]

Is this the stolen copy of another bike or is it built by slave labor. These cheap bikes are all blending together.

[@BrianDoherty-e8s]

I stopped watching this channel a few years ago because of the withering, endless discourse. You have turned an otherwise great channel into a chore by being too discursive. This is like sitting on a public bus next to a chatty person.

[@Nerb1]

And yet youre here to comment. Wow. Some people! Just learn to leave it alone and go do your own thing.

[@PracticalTacticalSheepDog]

Lost me at Chinese, im biased against most Chinese products these days. Not all low quality products come from China, but most products that come from China are low quality. Just like most Chinese products, it might work great while it's new. Give it a year or two.

[@odsttrooper08]

As an aside, there are some ethical quandries to supporting those who would see our demise as well.

[@kevinperry581]

Hope you don’t use a Mac or Apple.

[@donniebunkerboi9975]

Your comment was proudly typed on Chinese made phone. How ridiculous is that.

[@Marco81323]

Chinese motorcycles are significantly better now than they used to be even 5 years ago. They are getting really close to European standards.

[@DarkFox6211818]

Let me know when either those two start approaching the standard set by the Japanese big 4.