Marine Biologist REACTS to Casual Geographic / The TRUTH About Sea Otters

[@KPassionate]

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[@johnathanblackwell9960]

When I was growing up there was a sudden outbreak of Mitten Crabs on the Sacramento river, I even caught a few in the same way we would occasionally catch craw fish. They would hold onto the bait, and would come up with slow reeling and would feel like a branch or other debris. After a while we would find crabs with their claws missing, if a hook got caught on their legs while they were to eat our bait . After a few months we stopped catching crabs, but we did catch an abundance of Channel, Blue, and Hybrid catfish with crab claws, or shell material or claws in their stomachs during the period when the crabs began to dissappear from the ecco system. My flawed observations from these events, was that under certain circumstances a native or naturalized species could over come an invasive one given the right parameters. Catfish in general are omnivorous predators as well as scavengers who are already well adapted to feeding on crustaceans for example. Can you think of any other example where a native species is able to overcome or eradicate an invasive one.

[@ilovedogs2642]

I believe dogs have a certain sense of morality, not as complex as humans of course but I believe in a lot of cases they know when something is good vs something is bad

[@KPassionate]

@@ilovedogs2642 I think this is mostly related to us teaching them that we disapprove of something. If a dog didn’t grow up around humans it would behave differently. So that is more our morals being taught to the dog

[@ilovedogs2642]

@@KPassionate yeah very true, but isn't our morality taught to us by other humans to? In wolf packs an lion prides they seem to have do's and don'ts

[@KPassionate]

@@ilovedogs2642 Yes for sure! But that’s why it isn’t fair to hold animals to the standards of the extremely complex culture we have

[@Ruosteinenknight]

He did another one about otters(among other animals) called "without otters the world would be on fire", which is exactly what it says. He makes it clear that without seaotters we all would be much worse off as they're a keystone species.

[@KPassionate]

Yes he consulted me on the otters as keystone species video! I loved it.

[@14majore]

I love that one and the one about the beavers getting air dropped

[@jaschabull2365]

And wolf eels, don't forget the wolf eels!

[@dragonzord_reptar]

@@KPassionate he consulted with you?? That's awesome!! I know he does his research, and his videos are great for spreading information. Sure he goes to the dark side more often than not lol but the fact that he does his research and consults with people in the field is awesome and makes me like his videos even more! Maybe you 2 can do a collab someday hopefully!

[@KPassionate]

@@dragonzord_reptar we have talked about it! I am just not good with coming up with ideas for stuff like that. Let me know if you have any!

[@anonview]

I've been watching Casual Geographic for a few months now and some of his viewers can be ridiculous. The reason he gives over the top descriptions is so that others can get interested in animals and nature. Unfortunately, some people think they can be experts themselves by just watching his uploads... which are meant for entertainment.

[@KPassionate]

100%! My video was more designed to poke fun at his viewers. Not so much him

[@chimpz5690]

On point.. some people are pretty naive these days

[@rudeondude21]

I like that casual geographic is not just lying but given facts and also #1 stay away from wild animals remember they are WILD animals

[@nunyabisnass1141]

Ppl will think they will be experts after reading a fortune cookie or a twitter post o things they are absolutely not qualified to process, thats just how some ppl are.

[@vexile1239]

I just watch his videos because I find them entertaining tho some of them actually make me look them up out of curiosity and interest

[@aikens1987]

I love seeing a marine biologist confirming and setting the record straight. Casual Geographic definitely does his research. Yes he says some animals are morally corrupt (see his videos on penguins) but he does it for laughs he has definitely said in more then one video their is no morality in nature. Love his content and yours as well. Thanks for the edutainment

[@KPassionate]

I love his content too! Thanks for watching!

[@auburneytuckerson2959]

I love casual geographic. He's hilarious, and like him, I love and study animals.

[@alexscheuerman8899]

Came here to say this. I'm just glad casual is spitting facts too. Ive been hoooked for awhile now.

[@KPassionate]

@@alexscheuerman8899 he’s great! Very well researched

[@ayoayo1044]

Isn't he in college studying animals. It would make sense that he takes it seriously as it's part of his major

[@calebrands4912]

As a big fan of Casual Geographic, I'm glad to see that you're on good terms with him. As for his use of comparing human morals with animals, I see it more as a method to be more entertaining rather than a way to intentionally demonize animals since he has made it clear that animals will be animals and he still clearly loves them. Never have I watched one of his videos and thought a whole species was evil. If anything, he's made me like animals even more and reignited my facination with zoology. I'm even rewatching Planet Earth. (I feel a similar way about the show: River Monsters.) It's facinating to look at the dark side of nature, but it becomes a problem when people generalize whole species based off singular facts. I think it's insane that people told you to "do your research" when you're a marine biologist. It would be like if I told Bethany Hamilton to get good at surfing. In the words of Casual Geographic himself: "Orangutans are endangered and dumbasses on the internet are kind of overpopulated." Personally, I think he's too good for TikTok.

[@KPassionate]

I agree on all points. My video was more targeted at those of his followers that take him extremely literally. I love his stuff and he is very well educated about nature! I think the majority of people are able to watch his stuff and recognize it as entertainment. But those that aren’t are in my comments 😂

[@ericolens3]

I like the morality of crows, elephants, and dogs. Its just weird how much our views can be shared. I just love mammals since our morals tend to be more aligned. Distance, body posture, and sounds to convey our moods. Im just better at reading certain animals than others. (Its just my personal bias that mammals are the smartest of all the animal kingdom.) Birds have a high rank too, but thats mostly thanks to Leslie the Bird Nerd. Sadly terms like "bird brain" give birds a bad rep, when they can use tools. Have strong forms of empathy, depression, interesting mating "morals". Sometimes monogamous, sometimes homosexual adoptions, sometimes adopting a ROCK. (Penguins). Then there are eagles that do a death dive to get "married".

[@KPassionate]

@@ericolens3 birds are super interesting. I worked at a birds of prey rehabilitation center in university and LOVED it. I still miss having a hawk on my arm in the mornings

[@Rodrik18]

I would point out that while he is both mostly correct and VERY entertaining, it's still potentially harmful to shape public perception of species for money. People are lazy and Destructive, if we can rationalize why we shouldn't care about something then we don't do that thing. "Dolphins are evil so who cares if they get caught in nets?" "Seals violate penguins so let's just take over that waterfront to build on"... There's actual damage that can occur due to lack of concern for animals we see as being lesser and morality, as much as it really doesn't apply in nature, is one of the ways we humans judge things

[@KPassionate]

@@Rodrik18 maybe. But he has been better his content and very aware of this. You can actually see his content grow into more educational and conservation focused. Which I love to see!

[@jrmckim]

The biggest thing is that he gets people to stop and learn about animals without it being "boring". I'm a teacher and found that making something funny helps kids remember it better. I've been a huge fan of his for years.... before it was "cool". He's a good guy all around.

[@KPassionate]

CG is amazing! I love his content. My video was more aimed at those in his audience who take things a bit too literally hahaha

[@michaelconran5252]

So true. To bad many do not understand sarcasm and hyperbole.

[@SiverFangBlackWing]

7:50 Casual Geographic actually tackles that in a way. As he says in the beginning that video is because he told people to name any animal and he could “ruin it”and they chose otters. He was pointing out that all animals have a negative side to them and you can make any of the sound bad if you wanted. Test him, he’s probably already done it with your favorite animal.

[@submariNervous]

THERE we go! I was hoping someone would bring this up, especially since he _has_ done a few vids that highlighted the more wholesome side of things, like the list of animals he'd be tempted to hug in spite of the roughly 99.9% certainty they'd _end him_ if he tried, which he accompanied with the info on why exactly said animals _shouldn't_ be hugged by _anyone_ under _any_ circumstances.

[@GothicSoldier9000]

Exactly! He's the opposite of a lollipop because he'll give licks to anyone who tests his research skills and savage sense of humor.

[@Frostfire40]

I might have him do this to my favorite animal just out of curiosity of what he'd say lol. Leopards are my favorite. Had he done that one already? I'd have to look and see.

[@submariNervous]

@@Frostfire40 A good question. He definitely _has_ touched on them in other vids, usually ones focusing on other cats that live in their area or ones that mention Animals That Are Beautiful But Absolutely Not To Be F*cked With, but I don't personally recall any vids dedicated _exclusively_ to leopards... 🤔

[@remyhavoc4463]

@@Frostfire40 the only negative thing I can say about leopards that I picked on from HIS VIDEOS are the fact that Jaguars are basically better, or in other words "literally leopards on steroids" 🤣

[@JN-rz1fx]

While Casual Geographic did his research, there are a lot more who spread misinformation. It's worrying and alarming that people are actually telling professionals in their field to "do their research".

[@KPassionate]

I am flabbergasted when I read those hahaha

[@darkblightballas7445]

I'm positive that he knows that he knows a lot more than he leads on he just presenting it in an entertaining format

[@KPassionate]

@@darkblightballas7445 he does

[@haystackbill6187]

@@darkblightballas7445 Also he's not saying that most animals of a certain species do the things that they've been documented doing, and he's acknowledged before that they have also done good things and that it's not fair to judge the animal kingdom based off of morality, etc. When he calls them evil or morally bankrupt he's just being entertaining, because that's his niche, he describes animals and their habits using gamer and hood lingo for comedic purposes.

[@sleepparalysisdemon6]

He makes it like that for views

[@fossilfueled27]

To be fair, Casual Geographic has also mentioned about seals violating penguins... he's pretty indiscriminate about which animals he ruins for people :)

[@submariNervous]

NGL I scrolled down specifically to see if anyone else was gonna mention this, and thanks to you I was not disappointed. XD Also to CG's credit, he _did_ say at the very start that he was _only_ "ruining" otters because people _specifically_ challenged him to do so, so at least there's that.

[@garygrant91]

He isn't really ruining animals for people. If people want to anthromorphize animals, they are bound to be disappointed. People are basically ruining animals for themselves by expecting Walt Disney animals instead of creatures built to survive in an uncaring and lethal environment where the only law is the Law of Fang and Claw.

[@submariNervous]

@@garygrant91 Yeah, true. Basically he's "ruining" animals for folks in the same way one can "ruin" human babies by reminding people that they're basically just noisy, pink poop factories. 🤷‍♀

[@T_E_G]

@@garygrant91 also, they'll openly believe any animal is harmless or look cute and won't definitely bite them in the face or unexpectedly poison them right? It is informative and thanks to him, the facts can be spread around

[@estebanramirez1178]

A lot of his videos to ruin animals for people are usually on request from comments in the previous video or outright challenges.

[@JeffRebornNow]

I discovered my cat reading Kant the other day. He was not impressed with the arguments in "Critique of Practical Reason," and said that the "moral imperative" was bullshit. He was determined to continue killing birds, chipmunks, and baby bunnies.

[@rsharpy24uk]

😂😂😂

[@KPassionate]

And the Oscar for best comment goes to!

[@janeeyre1990]

What a Kant

[@Woug]

Kitty was like "Kant make head nor tail of this"

[@doubleagentxv120]

@@KPassionate 100% lol

[@ChrimsonFoxdon]

The “you can love an animal and still respect that it’s a wild animal” is so true. I see sooooo many people just… not comprehending that. Like they think a wild animal will be as obedient as their dog. I also remember seeing a clip of a family putting a little girl on the back of a wild sea Lion to take a picture. Did not end well

[@alegriah3611]

Excellent video, especially the part about morality being a human concept and not something we should expect of animals. Love this series.

[@KPassionate]

I'm so glad! I really like making these videos.

[@black97_0]

@@KPassionate if I may step in his defense It's probably less of actual morality thing, and more putting it into more easily understandable terms I mean sure technically good and evil doesn't exist in animals, but then how would you rephrase it for it to still be somewhat easy to understand I surely can't think of a better way, but in my defense, my biology peeked during my last year of primary education, so...

[@KPassionate]

@@black97_0 my intention was not to call out him but more so the lack of critical thinking in some of the audience to not recognize comedy and not take things at 100% face value. I assure you we are actually on good terms!

[@black97_0]

@@KPassionate that's good :)

[@supersaiyandiclonius3056]

@@KPassionate Casual Geographic learned from his mistakes and started putting disclaimers that animals should not be judged on human morality. (There's no church in the wild and hell is not a consequence)

[@jlpeters8576]

Thank you for setting the record straight. Ironically, humans have done far worse than any otter has ever done, and otters aren't judgmental.

[@KPassionate]

I know right!!!!

[@TheSecondPrimarch]

In all seriousness, I really question if I am REALLY biologically a human at times. Like I am flat out incapable of some of the depraved stuff I have seen other people do. I'm not tooting my own horn here, rather I'm just disturbed and confused.

[@calicobagels]

FR, many humans can be disgusting like any other animal sometimes, and like what you just said, yes humans have done way worse.

[@cautiouslycynical9786]

@@TheSecondPrimarch Please don't be a hypocrite, no offense. Everybody is capable of anything strictly biologically speaking. Sensible human beings though. Well we find a middle ground between holier than thou and brutish apes.

[@TheSecondPrimarch]

@@cautiouslycynical9786 None taken! Don't worry, I won't be a hypocrite!

[@A.Lien98]

I love how you say “Nature is indifferent and doesn’t have morality” goddamn that’s so true and some people just don’t get it

[@briansedlacek1963]

Pretty sure these people have seen too much Disney..

[@KPassionate]

Everything is permitted 🤓

[@zenitsuagatsuma9076]

@@briansedlacek1963 yup

[@that1nerdyblackgirl736]

PETA has left the chat

[@melanieruddy399]

Well us humans are a part of nature too...

[@corydalton7135]

Love how a couple of weeks after this post Casual Geographic added an addendum to his sea otter content. You are changing the world KP!

[@Nighteyes78]

If learning one bad thing about an animal makes you hate this animal, well you should hate humans too ! Thanks KP for this video, loved it !

[@KPassionate]

Thanks for watching!

[@fredericksaxton9782]

Way ahead of you, most people hate humans before they start hating animals sooo...

[@ItsMinnowSeason]

People who hate animals for this reason are either overly prideful and feel above others with little to no sympathy for animals Or they hate humans first and are just trying to be cynical about the world

[@Elizabeth-hn6yd]

Excellent video, KP! I’m a scientist too (entirely different field), and I’m so impressed by your ability to explain marine biology in an accurate, accessible, and appealing way. I really love the way you promote scientific thinking: consultation of source materials, putting individual facts into a larger context, and the importance of expertise. Thank you!!

[@KPassionate]

This is such a lovely comment coming from a fellow scientist!!! Thank you ❤️

[@VitchAndVorty]

Man, you missed the opportunity to say “You know, I'm something of a scientist myself.”

[@ironxtj_4864]

I love how well you explain the slight inaccuracies and other subjects, it really brings a lot of insight and context to things that should definitely get more recognition. Many facts in the animal kingdom are commonly exaggerated or misunderstood, so really love the video and would love for it to get more exposure, keep up the amazing work.

[@KPassionate]

Thank you so much! I appreciate the feedback ❤️

[@brziperiod]

Yeah I feel like Casual Geo has to omit some stuff/spark notes some stuff but hey, at least he's bringing (albeit a bit off) educational content to tiktiok and YT.

[@KPassionate]

@@brziperiod I think he’s doing a great job! This was more to highlight that some of his viewers are a bit silly lol

[@lsmmoore1]

And one fact that really needs to be de-exaggerated more often (since it is easily used to justify abuse of power) is the idea of the "queen bee" (or ant or termite) and how it actually works in the literal sense. People don't get that the queen bee (or ant) is only called the queen because they control reproduction. And that no, the other insects do NOT look to the queen and do everything she says. And that in fact eusocial insects will often save themselves before they would save the queen in certain disaster situations - when they defend, it's less about "the queen" and more about defending the colony (or hive) as a whole. To the point that the whole might be saved while the "queen" gets lesser priority - not no priority since she affects the overall whole, but Queenie doesn't get top priority either. A lot of people really don't get that last part. Even though humans generally won't save their ovaries before they save their brain, either. And there really is no equivalent to "vital organs" in most eusocial insect colonies. In other words, the buggers in Ender's Game are pure fiction (and if some alien akin to "the buggers" were real and really an ant analogue, they'd leave their "queen" at home or in a home-base spaceship and well out of harm's way while they go to battle themselves, same as we don't send our day-care workers, currently birthing mothers, and maternity ward nurses into battle).

[@chloemae4959]

Please do more casual geographic breakdowns! I'm here from his channel and loved this vid. I think it's funny how a lot of his viewers are so blind to his actual intentions with making those videos. He loves animals and knowing those facts doesn't change that. And it definitely doesn't make the animals somehow evil 😂

[@pearliies]

THANK YOU! this is why people need to understand the context of where their information comes from. it’s absolutely not productive to demonize an endangered keystone species because of three individuals

[@KPassionate]

Thanks for watching! I wish critical thinking was more common hahaha

[@temporalmentetonto]

He did a video called "without otters the world would be on fire" which explains the whole keystone species stuff

[@pearliies]

@@temporalmentetonto that’s good, i know that ndiaye knows his stuff but this is moreso directed toward people who see a sea otter video and comment stuff like “i can’t like them anymore because they’re evil / i found out they r*** baby seals” 😭

[@metalmikey1990]

brilliant video love how you didn't hate on his videos, you confirmed what he was talking about, he just has a dramatic way of explaining situations that have been documented in nature. Plus you make sure to remind everyone, that morals is a human thing and shouldn't be expected of any other animal. sure you can see human behaviour in other animals especially pets, but thats behaviour it learns from their owners and people around them. Nature isnt evil it isnt good....its just survival at the end of the day.

[@KPassionate]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@AuntieNae]

I love all of your videos! I appreciate the efforts of you and Double. BUT this is my all time favorite video. The grace and diplomacy in which you shared your knowledge was perfect in content and tone. MORE LIKE THIS, pretty please.

[@KPassionate]

So great to hear! This is the direction we are going right now and I’m super happy with it.

[@ThePsychicClarinetist]

I'm late, but I love this video! I loved Casual Geographic's videos (and still do love them) from the moment I found them, and respect his honesty and his humor is immaculate. You perfectly outline how people take relevant information from relevant contexts and make irrelevant, biased statements using them. I took a Wolf Behavior class in college last semester, and it was so fascinating to understand wolves on a deeper level. That same professor also teaches an Animal Behavior course as well, which I'm considering taking in the future (I'm a music major so my schedule ends up ridiculously packed very often). My point in bringing up that class ties into what you said about context. The professor would always say "Which wolves where?", which I believe she also got from a mentor or someone before her, and she used that phrase to help the students evaluate context and how we frame what animals do into said contexts. I think some people on the internet take context for granted; it's always important. I'm very glad that you mentioned that and also mentioned how ridiculous it is to hate an animal based on a claim that only applies to the minority. Same can be applied to other human beings and to fandoms, TBH. That said, I have a bias against dolphins that I should finally address. Thank you for such an informative video, and the clips of those adorable otters! 🧡 I love the work Marine Biologists do, you guys are so inspiring. Maybe my next degree will be in that. 😁

[@KPassionate]

Hahaha it’s never too late to comment on a video you like! Thank you! I love Casual Geographic and we are actually friends! It’s only some of his fan base that were beginning to irritate me by telling me to "google what they do to seals". Imagine. As if I don’t know!!!! Thanks for the watch and the feedback!

[@ThePsychicClarinetist]

@@KPassionate Of course! 😃 And yeah, it is crazy that some people think they're more qualified or knowledgeable than a professional. Meanwhile, they don't even cite articles or even try to reference anything. 😭 I love that you're both friends now! Is a collab a possibility in the future? I'd love to see it if so, but even if not, I'm looking forward to experiencing more of your content. Thank you! 😊

[@KPassionate]

@@ThePsychicClarinetist we have talked about it! I’m just so bad at this stuff. I have no idea what to even do for it 😂

[@visualartsbyjr2464]

I’ve only recently come across CG’s videos. (I’m a huge fan of biology and physical sciences, but due to dyscalculia I went with arts for degree… letting you know my background, showing I’m not a complete putts). - I find that he is fairly well researched. - he keeps it entertaining with his presentation of short bits of information while using language that can be easily understood by many. - he doesn’t just focus on otters, but all animals (as with the seal example you used). - from observation his videos help show that wild animals are dangerous and can harm or kill if misunderstood… and not just cute/cuddly angels of virtue (that people seem to think they can walk up to with apparent disregard to the potential of bodily harm). - those with a functioning brain know that “it’s not all animals”. it’s lesser known, and often violent, information about animals that CG uses to engage people with. - it invites people to research more into various animals and their behaviour. Like you mentioned, why are these otters acting like this? - as for the comments you’ve been getting… well, it is the internet. As this is long enough I’ll stop there. As with his video(s) I enjoyed yours as well. 😊

[@KPassionate]

Great points! My video was more to poke fun at audience members who take things too literally. CG and I are on good terms!

[@pisces2569]

He also shows that animals typically considered disgusting, terrifying, or scary are not as bad such as his wholesome facts about spiders, snakes, and sharks

[@lintonharvey560]

I appreciate this reaction. It's good to learn so much about these animals. I follow his page as well, he definitely does his research. I think his whole schtick is roasting every animal he's ever heard about and occasionally saying something positive. He talks like he hates the animals for show, but he's clearly fascinated with them.

[@SaskiaSketches]

What a fantastic reaction video! Really adding a lot and clearing a bunch of things up. Also definitely agree that we shouldn’t judge an entire species based on what a couple individuals have done. If we were to do that to humans we’d all be horrific serial killers.

[@KPassionate]

Or worse!! hahaha Thanks for watching

[@HaShomeret]

"I don't know if your aware of this, but humans do this (trying to mate with inanimate objects) as well." Amazing line.

[@KPassionate]

Well we do!!! 😂

[@mariag.8242]

Always at least one guy per year in the ER with a vacuum hose attached 😅

[@AlishN7]

Thank you for this video! I love CasualGeographic, and I think his comparison of animals to people is purely for entertainment, but it’s good to clarify that no, in fact nature is not nice and doesn’t care about morals, but nor is it evil.

[@theskilllessgamer5795]

I love CG for how enternaining and hilarious he is and how he constantly debunks that whole "humans bad, animals good/ animals are the better humans" memplex. But people picking up his statements and now hating animals for that? Oh my FSM, how not smart ist that. While it is possible to gain insights into human behaviour and morality by learning about animal behaviour, including the really cruel and digusting stuff, it doesnt work the other way around. Animals are animals, all have good and bad aspects, while "good" and "bad" are purly human ideas. (Except mosquitos, those really have to go.)

[@KPassionate]

I agree! And I also love CG's content. Thanks for watching!

[@zionleach3001]

Exactly. Seems those 2 comments need to research CONTEXT. I was just surprised by the more messed up facts.

[@aerochicc]

Well said, KP!!! I didn't know about the Tik Tok video, but I'm glad you addressed it. Nature isn't always pretty. We should know that by now.

[@KPassionate]

Couldn't agree more. Yes I only know about it because EVERYONE comments on my videos about it.

[@darkblightballas7445]

@@KPassionate PS he already did a video about seals also you take a look at that one too

[@KPassionate]

@@darkblightballas7445 I will! Thanks!

[@RedKoopaPlumber]

As someone who loves marine biology and ecology. Ive been aware of these behaviors in pinnipeds and sea otters for years. Yet I still can find them very cute animals and also dangerous ones too. I just don’t let rare unsettling behaviors in animals ruin my appreciation and love for them.

[@KPassionate]

Well then you are safe from my criticism! Hahaha.

[@WillowWasp]

Oh I love this! Your channel was recommended because I'm a huge Casual Geographic fan. I think marine biologist is the coolest job. And yeah the idea of animals having morals is literally just silly.Subscribed!

[@Atlquotl]

I have only just found your stuff because of casual geographic, and I knew he does research because he's often at least as knowledgeable about animals as the discovery channel stuff that I loved in the late 80s/early 90s, so on reading the comments, I love that he consults with people with years of field experience!

[@KPassionate]

Yeah CG is great! We are working on a collab so stay tuned

[@averyvanderlouw1193]

This was very informative and well edited, I’m now subscribed!

[@KPassionate]

Aww thank you!

[@RichardDeitering]

Thank you for explaining that nature is as nature does...Otters are still my favorite animals

[@jamesrimes2870]

"And nature doesn't subscribe to this channel, but you should"

[@KPassionate]

Aww thanks!!

[@sir.goat4595]

No one is sticking up for animals feelings like you and casual geographic, the two of you truly do value animals as if they were human and that’s what I love.

[@KPassionate]

Aww thanks!

[@Woug]

Honestly, I think the morality takeaway in all of this is to curb our impulse to anthropomorphise. Sea otters tend to their pups and try and mate with juvenile seals out of the same survival impulse. The fact the we designate one as darling and the other as repugnant is our own foolishness.

[@kylieellway2]

Really good KP. Well thought out and explained. I found it really interesting and I really like how you explain the research and the limits of what can be assumed from it.

[@KPassionate]

Much appreciated! I'm glad you liked it. We had fun making it and will do more in the future!

[@colleenmollentze8313]

Thank you for this very informative video. I watch a lot of CasualGeographic's content and it's good to know that he is correct, but also to know the context. I think people forget that he is foremost an entertainer. Also people like soundbytes, not reading actual peer-reviewed papers. Sorry you have to deal with ignorant comments. And yes, sea otters are still super cute 😍

[@KPassionate]

I love his content too! He’s amazing. Just tired of everyone trashing otters all the time! 😂

[@misanthropicmusings4596]

@@KPassionate Casual Geo's video have not diminished my admiration of otters or other animals, as I know he is doing it for entertainment and also pointing out that we should be careful not to anthromorphize animals. Did love to get the context that a lot of this behavior is under stress. A great companion video!

[@KPassionate]

@@misanthropicmusings4596 thanks! I’m happy you took the time to watch and comment!

[@boxertest]

I subscribed because you are a trained expert.

[@siegethompson3194]

He actually covers the seals doing that to penguins in the funniest and most informative way possible.

[@coolltazman]

I enjoy these types of videos. Not only do you confirm the information he talks about you also give in more facts. Please do more of these reactions to those! I'd love to see a collaboration sometime aswell if possible! It would be an interesting debate and fun learning experience for everyone imo.

[@KPassionate]

We are planning a collab as we speak! I'm glad you like it and stay tuned. More is to come!

[@coolltazman]

@@KPassionate AWESOME!!!!

[@jonfen1657]

Hermes appearing totally cracked me up. :D Great video!

[@KPassionate]

I laughed at that part too!

[@GearedForMusic]

I appreciate your approach to reacting to his video!

[@thesimplerooster]

I heard somewhere that octopi will punch fish out of shear hatred and instead of being appalled I was just like. “Same”

[@KPassionate]

Hahaha yeah f$&@ fish man

[@mau48310]

Ty it actually really is refreshing to see real experts fact checking what has memetically taken over the internet . This kind of work needs more funding . Let's set the record straight and not let popular videos and memes ruin the little education people receive on certain subjects. Ty seriously ty

[@KPassionate]

Thanks for watching! CG is amazing and knows his stuff. I just wish more people wouldn’t take everything they see on the internet at face value.

[@Smartie234]

I expected my trust in KZbin videos to be crumbled again by a debunked video. But I feel so much better and have so much more respect for Casual Geographic (who actually posts fairly accurate information) and you for informing us and add to the information.

[@coolblack1]

I love casual geographic’s videos. They’re a reminder that no matter how much you think you like an animal it is still in fact an animal!

[@KPassionate]

He’s great! This video is more aimed at the very literal members of his audience 😂

[@T1Oracle]

We should just assume that if humans are capable of a certain level of depravity, then every complex life form in nature is too. Regardless, never judge an entire group by it's worst members.

[@artur6912]

I always found it funny how some people will claim humans are the only species capable of evil and depravity and animals are saints. Literally every depravity a human has committed, a species of animal also did it. -cruelty and murder for murder sake -pedophilia -necrophilia -canibalism -getting drunk / high -infancite For every example above I know at least 2 animal species that do this somewhat regularly.

[@kellyb6198]

What I love most about casual geographic is that he balances out the facts/information about animals that we, as humans, would find morally ick with endearing facts as well as information about why they're important to their ecosystem

[@KPassionate]

He’s great!

[@Dolphinicangel]

Thank you for this video and thank you for not disrespecting Casual Geographic. My dream was to be a marine biologist or at least work with animals. My kids have grown up loving animals and documentaries or fun fact files play a huge role in that. What we Love about Casual Geographic is the fact that he uses the colourful expressions and modern day slangs to describe animals and their behaviour in a comical way while teaching people. He does not only show the “aaawwwwww🥰” side of animals that we see in so many documentaries, he gives you the shocking truth and reminder that these are WILD ANIMALS. It’s sad that people rather than appreciating what is,go to the extreme and hate a species because the no longer appear to be all sunshine and rainbows. It reminds me of that horrible time when soon after Steve Irwin’s death people went around killing Sting Rays. That was the ultimate betrayal of his work as anyone who knew and loved Steve knew that he always said “ if ever I get hurt by an animal it’s not their fault but mine, as they do not understand what I’m doing. They are just defending and being themselves to what seems like a threat”. Its not verbatim what he said, but it’s close enough😆. Please do not get dismayed by ignorant people telling you to “to do your research”, as the internet is full of uneducated specialists in every field. Just know that that there are many of us who do not leave absurd comments who love and appreciate all the hard work you do and are not begging to see you berate someone else for views.

[@bruceleealmighty]

Nice narration construct. I've not seen Casual Geographic and I'm not inclined to because it didn't even come up as a suggestion. I do thank you for clarifications and hope your world is as uplifting and educational as it seems from this video.

[@KPassionate]

Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching! CG is great and I encourage you to check him out if you like you content to be educational AND funny at the same time!

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

People dead serious just sat here and said "look it up" and "do your research" TO A MARINE BIOLOGIST

[@KPassionate]

I was shook 😂

[@ΓιωργοςΦλουμης]

I see casual geographic pretty regularly and i thing it would appreciate this video and agree completely with it

[@ΓιωργοςΦλουμης]

And the part with the ethics has been also stayed by causal geographic

[@KPassionate]

Hé has seen it and did agree! He’s great. We talk sometimes!

[@Calvin.The.Unfindable]

You have raised some really valid points here, context is everything, as a wildlife nerd myself I am always aware that animals have "no morals" or what we would call morals, because people look at them and think because they are not like us their habits are gross - how wrong. I have many people talk to me and say thing like "oh i started feeding the birds, but the pigeons/starlings keep stealing the food so I have to put more out for the little birds" and I'm not as shocked as I used t be! but I feel like well, pigeons are birds too!!! or they complain that a Sparrowhawk "killed" one of "their" garden birds, and I'm like "nope, Sparrowhawk's have to eat too it is just they are a hunter!" yet these people have no issue with blue tits or other bug hunters! People are so selective when it comes to liking an animal. But this is what the natural world is like, sometimes its savage, always it is beautiful (in my mind). Another epic video, nicely explained.

[@KPassionate]

Thank you for the feed back! As a marine biologist I often deal with people who LOVE dolphins. If I am feeling up for the argument I will explain to them some of the not so awesome things that dolphins do on a regular basis 😂. Not so that they will change their minds, but so they might grasp that everything in nature has two sides.

[@Calvin.The.Unfindable]

@@KPassionate i enjoy both sides of nature, because that is what it is. i wished more people grasped the idea that nature is not there just to be cute or "aggressive" traits are inherently bad. I have to say, you have one of the best jobs in the world, i know its not all glamour! but you do amazing work in the marine ecosystems. if my life turned out different I would have gone down a biologist/conservationist/tutor type route too. I always enjoy your vids.

[@eu29lex16]

Her interpretations are dumb and her interpretation are just fiction, not tangent with reality. Omg, literally what a geek brain does, evil existed long before morality was a concept as a simple option of doing harm intentionally ! That's evil and good, it doesn't need concepts or conceptual morality, it needs just the intention. Literally, these people think as much as plants do an I'm getting sick of brainless dogma's. Lady, your brain literally is dumped and not in synch with reality if you think evil didn't exist before philosophy and culture ! Lol, this is incredible, all that education they had only served to overload their brains into lowering their IQ. 6:16 Creature, evil is not a freaking standard, it's what freaking doing intentional harm means, it's what evil is and it's actually something we Got from animals and just developed it better. But who knows what other delusional and low IQ ideas she has, she freaking read a lot about animals but doesn't mentally realize that they do intentional harm(evil)damn often. And no, being a biologist doesn't give you the right to spew nonsense which is not realistic.

[@Betacount]

Great video! I don't get people who just accept "facts" told to them, then that's it, 100%. I mean most things I read or hear I take with various grains of salt.. You broke it down for the masses, well done :)

[@KPassionate]

Thank you! I’m glad you liked it. I wish that more people practiced critical thinking when watching videos on the internet!

[@Betacount]

@@KPassionate I wish that to be the case on the internet, at work, in schools and before making another stupid decision that's gonna get somebody hurt. That list goes on.. You found yourself another follower :)

[@annettecalandriello1123]

So grateful I subscribed to your channel,Thank you.

[@KPassionate]

Aww I’m so glad you did!

[@driftingdruid]

11 outta 10 breakdown, dropped a sub

[@burmessafox3939]

I love seeing professionls react to certain videos. One thing about his comment on morally bankrupt. In another video (his birds video i think) he mentions we cant judge our mortality on animals, but if we could (insert animal) would never see heaven

[@KPassionate]

He’s great and does great research! This video was more to call out the small amount of viewers that can’t seem to extrapolate hahaha

[@TheApproachableMohawk]

Love casual geographic and you're not the first person I've heard say nature isn't good or evil, it just is, But dang I always appreciate a minimum bias well articulated explanation. Love ya both y'all are awesone.

[@KPassionate]

Thanks! Collab coming soon 👀

[@heathergoble9599]

Thank you for making this video. Super important to understanding wildlife.

[@KPassionate]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Frebriel]

Dark truth: If you feed Joey enough, he will grow indefinitely and start generating his own gravitational pull.

[@KPassionate]

Accurate

[@TheOsakajo]

I think Joey was born with his own gravitational pull - look at all the people who found themselves drawn to a his fluffy cuteness ! We all spent hours glued to screens watching everything he did ! We travel hours to see him at the aquarium !

[@Interceptor810]

Id like to see more of these videos of responses to Casual Geographic

[@endangeredmarmot4518]

Otters attempting to breed with an inanimate object?! Say it ain't so! (looking at you Mak with your bucket, tube, or whatever you get your.. paws... on) Great video, KP - rational approach to emotional comments!

[@motherofone1]

What about dogs humping an arm, leg, teddy bear etc.?

[@nicholaskarako5701]

I liked your approach to reacting to one of casual Geographic videos and getting a clarification plus more information about sea otters behaviour from someone that is a marine biologist. I like casual Geographic videos and his ability to add humor while delivering a lot of information in a short time frame. He is pretty up front about being edutainment and not an expert in marine biology or zoology. Just someone making/post videos on social media to share his interests with any welling to watch his videos.

[@Lucas-yr3mk]

I watch Casual Geographic a-lot cuz he is funny about the true nature of nature. I like that you find him funny as well. You seem honest and direct. Thank you fgor your content.

[@KPassionate]

Thank you for watching!

[@yohaan9]

I really appreciate the fact you mentioned in a way that we shouldn't judge animals by humans standards and morals. They're animals, wild animals and they will be that. They haven't read philosophy books and so on. Good content.

[@KPassionate]

Thank you! And thanks for the feedback

[@msk-qp6fn]

Unrelated to the topic of the video, but I still would like to say this. Some people say that animals are "innocent" because they "don't know better unlike humans" and whatever they do is based on their "nature" (and some even imply or outright state that this makes animals better than humans), and I disagree with this. I think these animals all do what is "moral" and "immoral" within the capacity of their intelligence (IQ+EQ) level, so at the end of the day neither humans or animals are better or worse than each other.

[@bloodsin28]

Hey, great video! I really appreciated you drawing some lines while still being supportive of the other creator. Not enough of that nowadays.

[@KPassionate]

I love CG and his content! Great guy. Very well informed.

[@qwertyTRiG]

Nice to see an actual expert weighing in. (And nice to see the confirmation that Casual Geographic does his research.) I agree that the "morally bankrupt" phrase is potentially a problem. Of course it's just hyperbole and part of his style, but we really do anthropomorphise animals far too much, and that kind of language is probably best avoided.

[@KPassionate]

Thank you for watching! I think most people can take jokes but there are some extremely literal people out there apparently 😂

[@lsmmoore1]

The other extreme is problematic too, because refusing to project ANY emotion onto an animal (as if they were automatons) and calling labeling any feelings in an animal, or an animal's ability to read feelings (never mind that such an ability can be useful for avoiding territorial disputes) as "anthropomorphizing" (or, commonly, using spiritual language for that selfsame dismissal) encourages people to mistreat animals or otherwise cause them distress and not notice until the distress is severe. Worse, it encourages dehumanization of people. I've seen that far too often in certain circles where disabled people are concerned. The care workers effectively tell others not to "anthropomorphize" literal humans and to disregard feelings when it comes to certain things up to and including literal torture. That's not hyperbole. That is a real thing. Look up Judge Rotenberg Center if you're interested in that one (warning: graphic details). And while it's mostly the denial of emotions that causes these issues, denying an animal's ability to read feelings doesn't help since humans with unscrupulous motives (and even some motives with the intention of being good) tend to apply that denial selectively when they are trying to convince people animals don't love them (which is highly convenient for abusers who want to position themselves as the only person who loves their victim). Then they sometimes conveniently forget or ignore their denial that animals read feelings when an animal does something mischievous, and blame an animal for something more serious than mischief, even when the behavior only rises to the level of what would be called mischief in a child or even a human adult. Or when they don't, they treat the animal as a thing to be disposed of. Not to mention, that same thing of denying or downplaying animals' emotions as a blanket policy means that highly intelligent cetaceans get exploited to do tricks and people don't think those animals are being mistreated even when the centers who do that in the name of "education" spread misinformation about the animals' condition and how it's supposed to work. And one of those cetaceans, the orca, has at least been known anecdotally to do various things only it and humans ever do, from ways of strategic planning which have no parallels in the rest of the (nonhuman) animal kingdom, to killing lots of species except its own (and ours, apparently), to learning to attack others of its species to bring them "in line" just by being exposed to basic operant conditioning. That last bitter anecdote about orcas attacking other orcas to get them to obey commands, btw, comes from stuff about SeaWorld, apparently from former workers, and if that's true, it's a massive red flag because even great apes don't do that in spite of them being extensively researched with various forms of operant conditioning, whereas enslaved humans do, and have done, that. And I suspect that is true because when I heard of that, it was described as clinically as most animal behaviors are by folks who claim to study them, as if the people describing it didn't realize the stark significance of such behavior (or they got it confused with feelings in general when they did, and didn't understand the difference between emotions that are more universal than people think and behaviors that only humans and one other species exhibit in spite of there being several intelligent species out there). Which they won't if they insist on refusing to "project" feelings onto other animals and don't, in their case, even notice the difference in pattern between that and most other animal behavior.

[@elizabethshannon24]

Absolutely lovely to listen to you. Well done! Gratitude.

[@KPassionate]

Thank you!

[@black97_0]

I think you should react to more of his videos Sure in this one he sat on otter's reputation, but if you go through majority of his videos, you can actually see he has more diverse opinions about animals, not just the one he displays on an individual video's basis

[@KPassionate]

I think that’s a great idea!

[@neerajdixit1990]

Really loved your way for having a conversation based on facts and information. It is good to confirm the message that all the sea otters (like all other animals and humans!!!) are not evil. Obviously there are some outliers amongst the thousands of sea otters in the wild.

[@favor19881]

Thank you soo much for this teaching!!- People have got to quit humanizing animals, their Animals for gods sake, and thank you for clarifying who has tried to demonize the whole!! I applaud you for all you hear, you have more patience than I do!!!

[@KPassionate]

Anthropomorphism causes so many problems!

[@bradondykes2276]

Man, I really feel like I needed to see this.

[@jamie7398]

Baby elephants do what? I never heard that before, thanks. The fact some people want to give animals human emotions and condemn them when they don't live up the the humans expectations gets on my nerves so much.

[@KPassionate]

Don’t google it hahaha

[@mirawind9126]

That's my favorite part of casual is he points out the bad in anything. His videos are often people saying "you can't dis this" and him going "challenge accepted"

[@colmlambe4068]

I love how the seal slowly turns around and then growls at the camera right after she points to them saying hey hey don't point out our mishaps this is about otters not seals. Lol 😆

[@KPassionate]

I love that part too 😂

[@Alfuzzalino]

Looking forward to seeing the collaboration with you and casual geographic

[@susanfalco4252]

Great work :) Love Causal Geographic, and ya can’t blame a content creator for fans who take info-tainment out of context. People tend to anthropomorphize just about everything, and the internet is not always the best at bringing out our most reasonable natures.

[@joyofcookies]

Ummmm I’m so glad you got suggested to me! I love Casual Geographic and I appreciate knowing that he’s being comedically factual, and being backed by actual biologists. Thank you for doing the research! …and some of his viewers are being a tad over-dramatic, it reminds me of the joke paper that was submitted about misogynist dogs at the dog park and how people didn’t get the joke 😅

[@KPassionate]

Thank you so much and welcome in! I love CG. We have talked about doing a collab. But I just can’t think what we would do.

[@crowquillgal1016]

@@KPassionate keep us posted! Truly, I think he’s done genuinely good work on biology outreach in a pretty entertaining and relatable way. He is why I know the largest non-human threat to a moose is An Orca. 😳 I think a video trying to outdo each other on obscure animal trivia would be pretty fun ;)

[@MrTwenty20video]

Really enjoyed this video. Valuable info. Thank you It appears you have a great deal of content. I will be visiting your channel often.

[@KPassionate]

Thanks so much! Killer video coming out this Saturday about when sea lions attack!

[@jaydengwinnup5147]

Too be completely honest Im glad that you cleared this up for the people who didn't understand that animals aren't human, however I personally never saw sea otters as anything less than just another animal. They still cute.

[@emmanuelmacedo1095]

I love how you show the clear divide between human morality and nature. It is very hard to teach this. Lots of people, students especially, assign moral principles (human ones) to nature, and it’s hard to show how this is not an easy jump.

[@katsmenagerie106]

This is a great video!! I'm always confused by how people are so prone to the fallacy of judging entire species by the most extreme outliers. If we judged humans the same way, we're guilty of everything the otters have done. But for some reason we're quick to understand that human behavior is related to the specific context and the individual performing it.

[@KPassionate]

It’s such a funny thing for people to do. As an animal person it’s hard for me to understand it.

[@jaschabull2365]

I mean there are tons of misanthropes out there, and the concept that all humans are inherently bad is about as old as the dirt, considering what quite a few religions have to say about them.

[@fireinateacup89]

We need more people with expertise like you to educate and provide a balanced perspective on these things. I'm a reptile zookeeper and it's such an uphill battle to educate people about species and at the same time balance human gut reactions to things that freak people out. Black and white thinking and knee-jerk reactions of dismissal are practically baked into our society at this point. I "liked" and subscribed! ❤

[@KPassionate]

Thank you for the wonderful feedback! So glad to have a fellow zookeeper in here!

[@haileynicol6334]

Thank you for this! I really liked the way you explained the facts and added vital context. Sea otters can't be evil because evil isn't a concept they have. They deserve our respect, not shady comments and hatred for some perceived moral failing when morals as you said are uniquely human. ❤

[@Blackdragon99omfg]

Casual Geographic I find is highly sattarical and presents facts in a way that makes them huge and over the top for a laugh. So truth but presented in ways to make you doubletake and context not given all the time, or given rapid fire. Watching this video alongside CG is a beautifully rounded experience. Especially for people who might put human ideals on animals.

[@KPassionate]

That is a fantastic compliment! I love CG and this video was definitely targeted at these people that you speak of rather than CG himself hahaha

[@peanutsmom6023]

Thank you KP! Like so many others, I appreciate the way you discuss scientific and biological facts backed by valid research - rather that the process others may follow, like repeating as gospel something someone’s second cousin twice removed read on a bar napkin at happy hour while ditching pottery class. No offense to the bar napkin or the pottery class. 😂 You said it best- context. Someone may certainly present a truth, but without valid context it simply becomes misleading, which is irresponsible. Appreciate you!!! 😁

[@eu29lex16]

Her interpretations are dumb and her interpretation are just fiction, not tangent with reality.

[@PorterWood09]

Cannot add more than what everyone here has said...both KPassionate and Casual Geographic are both good entertainment and intelligent information. Thank you so much for your take on this!

[@Ryodraco]

I think a good way to put it is that videos like his are not exactly inaccurate, but can be misleading in presenting rare, extreme behaviors as if they are regular occurrences. One need only point to many deviant things some humans do, yet are species is not defined by those things, since the vast majority of us do not do them.

[@MesserTAMU]

On one hand you're right about context and that many of these things have been done by people, on the other gotta say I'm impressed with casual geographic.

[@williamp.7304]

Good video!

[@KPassionate]

Thanks!

[@skylarmccloud4080]

Also did you see that video about people who helped a sea otter who was being chased by an Orca. It was the sweetest thing ever, you could tell the otter was ecstatically grateful.

[@KPassionate]

I struggle with this. Because on the one hand I would never want to watch an animal like that terrified and then killed by killer whales. But on the other hand…orcas gotta eat. And who are we to decide they don’t get their hard won meal? You know?

[@borna1747]

humans have done far worse throughout history and in the medieval ages and still do, but do you hate your brother or mother for that? ofc not. don't judge every animal by its specie. also, nature only cares about one thing and that is SURVIVING. your own pet would've done the same in the same environment.

[@realreviews4102]

EXACTLY LOL. And the rescued sea otters who live in aquarium never have done that sooo

[@saaandshark]

Love the back and forth here, it's so cordial and it feels like you both do this for the sake of education :)

[@lindabartlemay656]

Look at how evil some Humans are to each other!!

[@KPassionate]

Too true

[@FiendishName]

Okay I have like, nothing to say. But that "It's also okay to drop a comment down below." That was smooth. That was smooth as glass so you get a comment a like and a subscribe. Good on you keep up the great work both here and in your other endeavors. I'll be watching with great interest!

[@KPassionate]

Hahaha thank you! Good video on when sea lions attack out this Saturday!

[@robertbailey6969]

Nice job, KP. These are, indeed, wild animals with all the attendant wild animal behavior that may be alarming or offensive to humans.

[@dalsup53]

I just randomly came across your video from casual video. You should react to more of his videos please 🙏🏾. And it’s awesome to know that he actually talks to you on things about his videos which makes him that more awesome.

[@KPassionate]

We are working on a collab! Hopefully coming your way soon!!