Why Are Orcas Attacking Boats? A Marine Biologist Explains

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@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
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@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
@knobjockey76 I have done a video on what to do about Tokitae
@Khumry
@Khumry Жыл бұрын
European are over fishing screwing the ecosystem. Us british are have a problem with the french & spanish taking to much with their super trawlers bunch idoits
@scottk6659
@scottk6659 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone investigated whether the boats sonar is causing them to act this way?
@jimbo987
@jimbo987 Жыл бұрын
@@scottk6659 traditional sonar does not, sailboaters are to cheap to use chirp, the sht i used to work on for the navy used ELF... which would disorientate and i would lean on that wavelegth was within large body resonant frequencys
@scottk6659
@scottk6659 Жыл бұрын
@@jimbo987 I would think the sound would disturb their ability to communicate and navigate. I live on the Salish Sea in BC Canada and we have instructions to disable sonar when near whales. Is sonar not within the Orcas hearing range?
@oldshipmatesadventures
@oldshipmatesadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this well balanced explanation. I am a local sailor here in Portugal, and we have had these interactions with severe damages and three sinkings here nereby. Current strategy for many locals here is not stopping the boat, as initially suggested (the thre boats that sank and most of the damaged ones did stop and sat like dead ducks), but to start the engine, apply full power, and produce a lot of noise, eg hang a metal tube into the water and hammer on it, or use a grinder on it, or any other form of noise, that the animals can hear under water. Seems to work, as reported by some that have tried this new strategy. The young teenage orcas, as all others, don't like noise, and turn away. The more boats would be "noisy" when the teenagers approach and try to "play", the more orcas would learn that it is not so much fun after all to bang the boats rudders, and maybe over time this may stop these interactions, and hopefully they may fade out completely in some time. We shall see.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Amazing! I was wondering if a sound deterrent was possible. I hope this will correct the behavior swiftly. Thanks for the insider info!
@Arrogan28
@Arrogan28 Жыл бұрын
If I was to travel in those waters then I would invest in a decent underwater speaker that can reach high enough underwater decibles to make the direct area around your boat not worth the orcas entering. Then just figure out a way to weight the speaker down or lock it to the hull, perhaps a few of them, enough to stop the attacks, and only turn them up until it has the desired effect, just to avoid hurting the animals ear drums, etc... As it would be amazing if this behavior could be stopped before some fisherman shots one of these animals, and that could cause the behavior to escalate where the animals might even kill humans if they see one of their children purposely shot by a human. It would be far better to just take the path you suggest and hopefully change their behavior without any permanent harm coming to the orcas, humans, or boats.. It's funny because about 2-3 years ago there was a video of kids swimming with orcas, and most people were attacking anyone who was saying they would have paniced if that was their kids... shaming them for 'over reacting' to orca siting orcas never having attacked a human. But I points out, having seen transient orcas play with seals for half a day in a bay which was out in front of the town I grew up in.I remember seeing them play with seals many many times, as a game. Having seen the cruelty they are capable of, and knowing that they are very much different animals than resident orcas, I said if they were my kids I would not feel safe with them in the water beside transient orcas. If they were resident orcas I would likely not feel too much worry, though they are still wild animals and I would call them out of the water just the same. But if they were transient orcas I would be scared as hell, because they do kill other mammals just for sport, and fun, and they are insanely deadly hunters, smart, and honestly if they wanted to bring down humans they could with even more deadly assurance then a great white could. So yea, when i first heard orcas were attacking boats, before I learned more from later follow up reports, I knew they would be found to be transient orcas. Resident orcas are much more like humans, and almost like the best side of humanity. Extremely family oriented, they have grandmothers, who are respected in the family tribe, etc... And they are very much kind to each other, and don't seem to be the ones killing for fun, i am sure it is possible they do, but I have never heard of it, nor seen it with the resident orcas that were near where I grew up. They just seemed so much more social, unlike transient orcas which always seemed like the equivalent of a family of anti-social humans, who lived apport from society, and had very odd behaviors compared to regular social minded humans. Transient orcas no doubt raise in my mind images of a human family that are not quite right in the head.. Definitely not to be trusted with your life. Where resident orcas seem more focused on love, family, social order, etc.. Way closer to the best in mammal/human social behaviors...
@emss--dti
@emss--dti Жыл бұрын
I was wondering about that. In particular I was wondering how well an air horn would work under water (the hand held ones with an aerosol can of air).
@dp5475
@dp5475 Жыл бұрын
That's a much more humane approach. I'll try that if I ever encounter one, but to be honest I wouldn't hesitate sticking them with a spear either. A few of those and I'm sure they would learn fast. That or a .22 or pelet round.
@anthonyamaro1771
@anthonyamaro1771 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes you gotta kill a few to save a lot
@endangeredmarmot4518
@endangeredmarmot4518 Жыл бұрын
So this is the orca equivalent of knocking over mailboxes. That is absolutely wild, and even more interesting in its own way than revenge.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
I think so too!
@backseatdriver4833
@backseatdriver4833 Жыл бұрын
maybe if the mailbox had something living in it
@jeffreystorer4966
@jeffreystorer4966 Жыл бұрын
Interesting if it's not you knee deep in seawater I'd guess
@Bachconcertos
@Bachconcertos Жыл бұрын
Tipping cows
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
@@Bachconcertos pretty much! 😂
@JasonSmith-ej2fg
@JasonSmith-ej2fg Жыл бұрын
You're spot on with people's proximity to wild animals. I see it all the time with Elk, Moose & Bear. People are so sheltered, they think ALL wild animals are pets. When dealing with an animal over 1000 pounds that frequently goes bad for people.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
100%! I am so tired of people thinking animals want to be around them. The ego
@michaelholt8590
@michaelholt8590 Жыл бұрын
People's stupidity on display. Idiots don't think the buffalo at Yellowstone will attack because "I'm not a threat". Well as a human we don't get to decide what is a threat, the buffalo do. Same with bears. I live in Northeast Tennessee and I am shocked by how many people (especially tourists) think that black bears are loving and peaceful.
@billorr2213
@billorr2213 Жыл бұрын
In Australia people assume kangaroos are gentle, fluffy, oddities. A fully mature male kangaroo can disembowel a human with minimal exertion. They sit back on their tails and use those powerful legs to kick and rip. Fatalities are extremely rare. Our hopping friends rarely interact with humans in the wild, but watching them dispatching a dog is pretty traumatic. Humans are the most disruptive, often ignorant, species on the plant. 😢
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
@@billorr2213 kangaroos scare the crap out of me honestly 😂
@90sshuffle
@90sshuffle Жыл бұрын
I cant imagine how terrifying itd be to get in a life raft after Orcas have just sunk my boat
@willardchi2571
@willardchi2571 Жыл бұрын
Her explanation of this orca behavior as a form of teenagers having fun validates something I felt when I looked out my window last summer to enjoy the view, only to see two small groundhogs greedily eating the flowers out of flowerpots on my patio. I ran outside and chased them away. Satisfied that I had taught them a lesson, I then made a mental note to buy taller plant stands for the pots. About 40 minutes later, I went to the kitchen for another cup of coffee and looked out the patio doors to see the two groundhogs eating my flowers again. And as I chased them away for a second time, I somehow got the distinct impression they thought the whole thing a funny game. It reminded me of when kids sneak into a farm field to steal apples and then run away from an angry farmer. I thought I was anthropomorphizing--but now I wonder!
@albinoorca
@albinoorca 7 ай бұрын
Another very important point of note is the the orcas are not sinking boats to kill or eat the humans on board, which they very much are capable of attempting. They sink the boat and... that's it.
@DrEagleTalon
@DrEagleTalon 7 ай бұрын
This is the most British story
@pong9000
@pong9000 6 ай бұрын
Groundhogs are keenly aware of how annoyed you are, for a very practical reason. Because their natural predator is coyotes, and they have defensive tunnel networks leading to multiple exits, groundhogs may _exhaust_ a predator to death with near impunity. The game is to coax the coyote to approach, all amped up stalking closer and closer, only for the groundhog to drop at the last second and reappear at another opening to repeat the prank. A group of groundhogs taking turns can tease a starving, dehydrated coyote all day long. As a prairie farmer, you have to mind your dog doesn't fall for it. I imagine this resolves with the more intelligent predators learning to leave groundhogs alone. See, it wouldn't work if the groundhogs' predator was a big snake incapable of learning. In that case it would be the prey animal wasting time and energy.
@CrniWuk
@CrniWuk 6 ай бұрын
It's Farmer Maggot again!
@DSAK55
@DSAK55 5 ай бұрын
Next up: _Cocaine Orcas_
@GrahamCStrouse
@GrahamCStrouse 5 ай бұрын
“If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us do we not sink your goddamn boat?” -Shakespeare Orca (probably)
@KittyKevan
@KittyKevan 2 ай бұрын
Totally agree !,
@picklerix6162
@picklerix6162 Ай бұрын
Alas, poor rudder, I knew it well.
@ncwordman
@ncwordman Жыл бұрын
You are such a good teacher. Learning from you does to my brain what having an exquisite 4-course meal does to my tummy: I'm am filled and happy. I was a rambunctious teen, and took all kinds of risks. Now, 53-years old, I hardly take any. I learned what I needed to know, and had lots of fun doing it. Your explanation is just perfect. Thank you, and have a great day.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!! I’m glad you found it enjoyable 😁
@casadelosotte
@casadelosotte Жыл бұрын
Love to listen to people who know what they are talking about...with respect...and thank you!
@MilesCobbett
@MilesCobbett Жыл бұрын
Jonathon Swift's book Tale of a Tub talks about Sailors keeping empty wood barrels on their wood ships to give whales something to play with rather than playing with the hull of the boats and causing leaks/sinkings
@42WasTheAnswer
@42WasTheAnswer Жыл бұрын
This comment should have had more hangtime 😀 Exactly, toss the orcas some baseballs
@louisegogel7973
@louisegogel7973 Жыл бұрын
@@42WasTheAnswerI recommend this an. few other really helpful comments be pinned to the top!
@annwithaplan9766
@annwithaplan9766 Жыл бұрын
@@42WasTheAnswer More like basketballs.
@williambunting803
@williambunting803 Жыл бұрын
I am not so sure that animals can’t exhibit revenge behaviour. I created a floating nest for a family of Coots near my boat where I live. This year as the Coot family was growing large enough to live without the nest, a Crested Grebe pair have been attacking the Coots to drive the family off the nest to take it over. One morning as the Coot family was off feeding around the anchorage the Grebe mother laid an egg in the nest and set about personalizing the nest with some plastic colorful objects. The Grebes had killed one of the coot chicks earlier and pushed several unhatched eggs off the nest. When the mother Coot returned she immediately attacked the egg aggressively puncturing it half a dozen times, then eating the egg completely including every part of the shell. She then tried to eat the plastic adornments (but thankfully couldn’t) she then set about pulling the nest material about violently to reshape it to suit herself. The way she punctured the egg looked very revengeful to me.
@leybrabear
@leybrabear Жыл бұрын
The orcas simply want to drive the injury-causing boats out of 'their' territory. Same as a human would do if an orca entered & caused injury in their back yard. The orcas are treating the boats as they would treat any 'natural' predator who could cause them injury.
@leybrabear
@leybrabear Жыл бұрын
Called territorial behavior in a non-human animal & revenge in a human animal. In the end it still comes down to human language semantics.
@pong9000
@pong9000 6 ай бұрын
There are lots of examples of one species investing time and energy to make life miserable for a competing species. It's especially common with flocking birds. Some social insects will even sacrifice their own lives just to teach a learning threat like a bear or a human a painful lesson. So it needn't be a conscious behaviour, even though it works best, ironically, on the most intelligent competitors. Still I don't see how these Gladis orcas are gaining anything for their species (and so, indirectly, their own genes) by this behaviour.
@theglennsnyder
@theglennsnyder 3 ай бұрын
Everybody on KZbin asks us to hit the like button. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. When you said "Are you not entertained?" that made me smile, and I was happy to hit it.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate 3 ай бұрын
Hahahaha thanks!
@willardchi2571
@willardchi2571 Жыл бұрын
If they are merely teenagers out for fun, then chase them away with underwater speakers playing Frank Sinatra records.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
😂
@Cara-39
@Cara-39 Жыл бұрын
Or math lectures!
@jennifercooper3846
@jennifercooper3846 Жыл бұрын
These adolescent orcas have watched too many tik tok videos and this is the latest challenge.
@Cara-39
@Cara-39 Жыл бұрын
@@jennifercooper3846 🤣🤣 Kids these days; if they're not eating laundry pods, they're ramming boats or wearing dead salmon hats!
@jennifercooper3846
@jennifercooper3846 Жыл бұрын
@@Cara-39 Lol, I know, right? I’m glad I stumbled upon this video. I initially wasted 20 minutes watching videos from mainstream news outlets. Then finding this one, by an intelligent, knowledgeable person was a relief.
@cattoes1609
@cattoes1609 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I am entertained! Looking forward to binging all your videos. I volunteer at The Wetlands and Wildlife Care Center in Huntington Beach. It was my desire to help with the plight of the Tokitae and Orcas in the Puget sound that motivated me. So I help locally and follow my northern neighbors stories.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
That is awesome!
@Icarus_II
@Icarus_II Жыл бұрын
YOU are the only person I've seen give detailed logical, biological reasons why this is happening. No one else is willing to go deeper to explain these theories. I'd made up my mind to believe this was risky behavior being taken to protect the pod from the boats. I had heard others say it was playful behavior, without explaining, and I thought, Orcas are too smart to engage in playful behavior with something they know can kill them. But now, after having explained that these are juveniles engaging in this behavior, I believe it. Thank you! New Subscriber!
@jademermaidmusic
@jademermaidmusic 2 ай бұрын
Researches have found that due to the rebound in the bluefin tuna population, meaning plentiful food for killer whales, this has effectively given orca populations off the Iberian Peninsula more free time for play
@johnswimcat
@johnswimcat Жыл бұрын
The Robertson family's yacht was sunk in a few minutes by Orca attack in the Pacific. They survived in a dinghy for a month or more. It's one of the great survival stories. Orca attack is worth considering when designing boats.
@darrenhale6320
@darrenhale6320 Жыл бұрын
I’ve quoted this story many times but people think orca sinking is a new thing
@susannewatson1219
@susannewatson1219 Жыл бұрын
NO IT'S NOT NEW. IT'S BECOMING A REAL PROBLEM.
@darrenhale6320
@darrenhale6320 Жыл бұрын
@@susannewatson1219 you are shouting a clarification of what we said???
@susannewatson1219
@susannewatson1219 Жыл бұрын
@@darrenhale6320 What do you mean?? I said it's becoming a big problem!!
@darrenhale6320
@darrenhale6320 Жыл бұрын
@@susannewatson1219 ok I just don’t think you know how the internet and / or conversation works.
@Shuffler703
@Shuffler703 3 ай бұрын
Your information/knowlwdge of ocean life never cease to amaze me. Your opinion on why the orcas are damaging boats is well thought out and makes for a great explaination. Thank you.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!!
@karenpowell6894
@karenpowell6894 Жыл бұрын
That was very insightful, as always. I was curious about these boat strikes. Thanks for taking the time to pull this together. 😃
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
@SMK-tw3wu
@SMK-tw3wu Жыл бұрын
I've been following these reported attacks lately and was wondering the recent shift in behavior. Thank you for the in-depth explanation.💗
@sweetdrahthaar7951
@sweetdrahthaar7951 Жыл бұрын
I am very entertained. Thank you ma’am. Fascinating to hear someone knowledgeable talk about this subject.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Hahaha I’m glad you enjoyed it!
@jennifercooper3846
@jennifercooper3846 Жыл бұрын
@@KPassionateI hope your finger gets better soon!
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
@@jennifercooper3846 hahaha thank you!
@otisyoung7061
@otisyoung7061 5 ай бұрын
crows have long memories and will recognize tormentors up to 15 years afterwards and will strike back
@zanderday4466
@zanderday4466 3 ай бұрын
people underestimate the other animals we share the world with all the time - whales are probably smarter than humans if you ask me . . .
@Roses-lilac
@Roses-lilac 2 ай бұрын
Crows are really intelligent.
@imdawolfman2698
@imdawolfman2698 2 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, my neighbor pissed off the local crows and they got revenge, still do. On our whole block only one car gets blessed with their droppings. In the morning on their way out to feeding and then again, in the evening on their way back. His screaming at them doesn't help. I keep my head down, smile and wave if they (the crows) notice me and DON'T associate with him at all. I understand that it's multi-generational, passed down, that is..
@925263
@925263 2 ай бұрын
Crows don't live that long.
@volldillo
@volldillo 4 ай бұрын
The orcas test the vessels for further attacks on vessels. This might look playful, but it is in fact part of a learning process many predators show. They try the parts, how they behave, and then start with small attacks until they develop systematic hunting strategies. Part of these tests is to explore whether or not there will be something eatable from the vessels.
@shaynelahmed6323
@shaynelahmed6323 2 ай бұрын
The Houthis may have to retire if the orcas get really good!
@Cara-39
@Cara-39 Жыл бұрын
A few articles said this may be an orca fad that will stop when it's no longer fun. Another fad mentioned was the Southern Resident pod wearing dead salmon "hats" on their heads for a while in 1987. It started with one orca, caught on quickly with the rest of the pods and ended abt 6 weeks later. Most scientists think these Iberian orcas like the water jetting out from the boat rudder and when it stops, they ram into it in frustration/annoyance.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Hadn’t heard the water jetting hypotheses! Interesting. Time will tell!
@keithb6717
@keithb6717 Жыл бұрын
Water jetting out from the rudder? I got cheated. My rudder has no jets.
@dustyak79
@dustyak79 Жыл бұрын
Wish human fads would go away after a few weeks
@StLProgressive
@StLProgressive Жыл бұрын
The salmon fad was hysterical.
@Cara-39
@Cara-39 Жыл бұрын
@@StLProgressive Right?!? Clearly humans weren't the only ones making questionable fashion choices in the 80s!
@troubleMakesThree
@troubleMakesThree Жыл бұрын
Certainly one of the most levelheaded responses to this behavior. I would like to address the closeness factor you mentioned at the end of the video. Orca can swim around 30mph, yet these sailboats rarely travel at 10pm. Certainly many motorboats can avoid how close they are, but sailboats have no chance.
@InservioLetum
@InservioLetum 3 күн бұрын
They should not be within the cetacean's eyeline AT ALL. The sailors consciously and deliberately go LOOKING for these marine mammals. In my view, that decision voids their right to life. If someone climbs in a lion enclosure, they have nobody to blame but themselves when the lions eat them.
@haggielady
@haggielady Жыл бұрын
Thank you, your explanation makes way more sense than revenge. Teenagers will be teenagers, nothing you can do but stay away from them.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!
@supertuscans9512
@supertuscans9512 Жыл бұрын
The only slight snag in the idea of staying away from these Orcas is that most of these attacks are taking place in and around the Straights of Gibraltar. The straights of Gibraltar is the only natural sea passage connecting the Med to the rest of the worlds oceans. It has been a main arterial seaway since long before the time of Cleopatra. It’s not dissimilar to saying that boats should say stay away from the Eastern Seaboard of the US, it’s ridiculously impractical.
@connannbarbarin3033
@connannbarbarin3033 Жыл бұрын
we can kill them
@Pippi-Longstocking
@Pippi-Longstocking Жыл бұрын
Yes. Absolutely stay away from teenagers. They are the worst. Also nature. Stay away from nature or it’ll try and kill you.
@MrMetalpunx
@MrMetalpunx Жыл бұрын
That's not true, you can taze them pepper spray them lock them in prison (aka sea world)
@Mmmyess
@Mmmyess 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for being honest with your viewers about the realities of this situation. As soon as one person perishes from an orca rudder strike, the entire pod will be killed in short order, probably due to some navy's "testing" of explosives (or poisons, etc.) in their vicinity. I wish more people were working to develop other non-lethal deterrents to alter the orcas' behavior (e.g., organic dye clouds, non-toxic irritating chemicals, underwater speakers blasting Celine Dion, etc.).
@bweaver760
@bweaver760 3 ай бұрын
“Underwater speakers blasting Celine Dion” 😂😂😂😂😂
@CLOCKCHASER2222
@CLOCKCHASER2222 2 ай бұрын
Just ask them to stop eating the rudder in a calm and polite manner and they will listen.
@marykuga4589
@marykuga4589 2 ай бұрын
I always thought that whales are very aware of what is going on in their world. They are enormously intelligent. I would not doubt for a moment that what they are doing is deliberate. It’s their way of saying, “ Quit polluting our home and injuring our families.”
@KPassionate
@KPassionate 2 ай бұрын
@marykuga4589 A recent workshop conducted by marine biologists concluded that the orcas are very likely just playing. Which is the scientific consensus and one I've obviously long agreed with. [1] archive.iwc.int/pages/download.php?direct=1&noattach=true&ref=22172&ext=pdf&k I am starting to think that people WANT it to be revenge rather than actually believing it is revenge. You're rightfully mad that we're polluting the ocean and want the orcas to teach humans a lesson. As Justin Gregg, a researcher for the Dolphin Communication Project, told the CBC, "thinking that orcas are out for vengeance is just an act of projection." [2] www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/friday-june-30-2023-episode-transcript-1.6894105
@marykuga4589
@marykuga4589 2 ай бұрын
@@KPassionate of course that certainly isn’t based on any scientific knowledge on my part but if they aren’t angry they certainly should be. I notice watching Ocean Conservationists Namibia that sometimes fishermen on the docks get a hold of OCN to help an entangled seal, which is s good sign that fishermen are starting to see what can happen to their discarded lines. It’s just a drop in the bucket but OCN started as a drop in a bucket and now they have saved numerous seals. A pebble in the water has made wider and wider circles.
@Mark-EFMB-Combat-Medic
@Mark-EFMB-Combat-Medic Жыл бұрын
Nicley done video and great explanation. You seem to be very cool and smart. I am not particularly interested in Marine stuff, but I am interested in learning new things from qualified people. So, I am subscribing to this channel. Keep up the great work.
@daffidkane8350
@daffidkane8350 Жыл бұрын
They can’t comprehend revenge but they can comprehend fun.
@kat420365
@kat420365 6 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking! Glad I’m not the only one that caught that..
@hektor6766
@hektor6766 5 ай бұрын
I think she's off-base. I think it's territorial animosity at a perceived violent rival predator, like the animosity between lions and hyenas.
@GermanAngelikaDiPasquali-pz1ln
@GermanAngelikaDiPasquali-pz1ln 3 ай бұрын
Having fun is a fisical experience, instead revenge come out of a concept of thought..
@brettbarager9101
@brettbarager9101 3 ай бұрын
"Fun" (or pleasure) has a hormonal component (the release of dopamine which is pleasureable) whereas "revenge" is a thought process (as someone already noted). Thus, if they are doing it for "fun," the behaviour is driven by the hormonal release rather than some cognitive process.
@shulamitsalomelotter5466
@shulamitsalomelotter5466 3 ай бұрын
I have a male orange cat, who definitely understands the concept if 'I will get you back' if I have done something to offend him. He likes sleeping in the bed close to me, but should I disturb him by pushing him, and maybe frightening him. And then he will get up, his ears become erect and he will jump and bite me. So I stop him, and he might go away, but later when I am not expecting it, for no apparent reason, he might jump up and bite my leg from behind or some other part of me. He has done this often enough for me to understand I have upset him, and he is annoyed and definitely tries to get me back. The concept of anthropomorphism is iffy, because despite human beings being the so called higher species of being, animals obviously have means of thinking and behaving in ways that we cannot hear or perceive because of our limitations. It does not mean that they are not able to communicate think reason and feel in ways that we have not been able to grasp yet.
@GodLovesComics
@GodLovesComics Жыл бұрын
By far the smartest and most thorough and reasoned analysis I've heard about the orca attacks. It's just unfortunate that the "play" is likely to continue and the result could be harm to both orcas and humans.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
I agree. Play with these guys can be deadly.
@rogerrabbit80
@rogerrabbit80 Жыл бұрын
​@@KPassionateSince the average female orca weighs about 3 tons, what they consider a gentle nudge can do major damage to a boat, and could easily kill a human.
@mr.e432
@mr.e432 Жыл бұрын
​@@KPassionateplaying with humans is even more deadly
@leybrabear
@leybrabear Жыл бұрын
It's the Orca youngsters more impulsive reaction to discovering that 'boats' can cause their species members injuries, as opposed to the adults more reserved, wait & see reaction, but I would strongly disagree it has anything to do w/ 'play.'
@linadukstaite558
@linadukstaite558 Жыл бұрын
She forgot to add that animals are playing when they are learning about surroundings, the actual play time is created to learn about food a bit more, to push the boundaries and to find out what can be utilised. Orcas maybe have learned that there is potential food on the board as they probably had opportunities to get food from the ships. Maybe someone get rid of left overs or fed them for fun, then next step they have learned when it is sinking there is actually food on it, they also are trying how dangerous human can be and how much they can push them. Playing is exploring very much the boundary, but only reason for playing in orcas case it is learning about the new food possibilities. Only the reason why they are playing in water parks, they get fed food and if they not very playful they would not get fed… they clever and they know it … food is very much what they are looking. Her explanation is not very good actually as biologists she talked about orcas like about kids … they are not a naughty teenagers .. they are animals who are in the age of learning and exploring and developing knowledge. One day they would learn that human being can be eaten. It maybe already happened, someone came across of a corps … we don’t know how many bodies are dumped in the sea …it takes just one mother to learn and easily target and the pod would be instructed. I think it is just a matter of time when they begin “playing “ with humans. Dolphins also kill by playing, it is well known fact. So lions… so tigers and even elephants.. cows … dogs … they are animals .. they have ability to kill…
@Lachronix
@Lachronix Жыл бұрын
That beginning was wild lol.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
So scary!!
@eileentaylor5624
@eileentaylor5624 10 ай бұрын
Interesting stuff . I have been following this story. Apparently they are targeting the rudder of the boats involved. so glad I found your site Keep us posted.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@matthewb8329
@matthewb8329 Жыл бұрын
Always love your content, K. Especially love your explanation on knowing when your too close to animals!
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@matthewb8329
@matthewb8329 Жыл бұрын
I know this isn't the video for it, and I apologize. With your walruses, they have their tusks cut and capped. does that affect their lives in any significant way?@@KPassionate
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
@matthewb8329 They aren’t ever cut. They are simply young walruses so their tusks are still growing. The caps help to protect them from cracking or breaking as they grow. Thanks for asking
@peanutsmom4785
@peanutsmom4785 Жыл бұрын
So interesting! But now I can’t help but feel there is a whole new context for the phrase, “hey parents, control your kids!” 😂 seriously though, thank you for the info - very informative!!!
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Hahaha that’s hilarious!
@InservioLetum
@InservioLetum 3 күн бұрын
I trust you mean HUMANS should control their your crotchfruit? Asking wildlife to behave like tame rabbits because some egotistical phillistine wants a selfie, is UTTERLY preposterous.
@triqpham
@triqpham Жыл бұрын
Great analysis of the orca situation. Best one I’ve heard as a matter of fact compared to some of the news outlets. Which makes sense since you’re a biologist directly working with these animals. Excellent job.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!!
@cactuscosyusa
@cactuscosyusa Жыл бұрын
How about suggesting how to stop the attacks or what people on boats can do to save their boats from being sunk ?
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Well avoid being in your boat if at all possible lol. And I’m wondering if some type of sound deterrent can be implemented. But honestly I’m not a boater so I have no idea what kind of technology is available. I just know about whale behavior
@robroy6804
@robroy6804 Жыл бұрын
get a friggin big harpoon
@hooperbloop7625
@hooperbloop7625 6 ай бұрын
Fishermen used to have seal bombs to scare seals away from their catch. Basically a waterproof M80 with a weight included.
@karenparker7830
@karenparker7830 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your insight into these particular Orcas and the ships off the coast of Spain.
@NikiLivi5
@NikiLivi5 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the info! I saw a pack of wild stupid teens chasing a moma bear who had 3 cubs with her in the Smokey mtns. Everyone was yelling and telling them to stop. Finally the moma and cubs got away in some dense brush. These teens had no idea how bad it could of ended for them. And it infuriated me being a moma of 5 myself. I would have attacked if I thought anyone was chasing my babies! People need to smarten up and remember they are wild animals and should be enjoyed from a distance.
@cathybaldry7822
@cathybaldry7822 Жыл бұрын
Hearing what those teenagers did to that momma bear makes me angry
@cliff4695
@cliff4695 Жыл бұрын
The closer I get, the easier it is for me to harvest one tho. How am I supposed to feed my family if I'm only allowed to enjoy wildlife at a distance?
@90sshuffle
@90sshuffle Жыл бұрын
Im sorry but I just cant believe 3 teenagers were chasing a fully grown bear. Having been a rather rambunctious teen boy once, I cant imagine any scenario which I would have thought it amusing to chase a wild animal that can kill me in half a second.
@adriansandlin556
@adriansandlin556 Жыл бұрын
@@90sshuffle Perhaps they were in a car.
@doubleagentxv120
@doubleagentxv120 Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine how terrifying that must've been. Especially at night...
@Skaggy2012
@Skaggy2012 Жыл бұрын
I also can't imagine all the terror that marine animals have to face from human behaviour.
@demonnick666
@demonnick666 Жыл бұрын
I can.
@alterego157
@alterego157 Жыл бұрын
Just chuck a few grenades and they'll go away.
@Skaggy2012
@Skaggy2012 Жыл бұрын
@@alterego157 😂
@knowsmebyname
@knowsmebyname 4 ай бұрын
@@Skaggy2012 there is truth in what you are saying. We should abandon Florida and leave it to the alligators. Its only fair.
@dreaa29
@dreaa29 Жыл бұрын
Orcas are one of my favourite animals
@liamramjean8542
@liamramjean8542 Жыл бұрын
They are beautiful animals 😊
@LauraD-
@LauraD- Жыл бұрын
Do you think this is play ( I do not seems silly how has not happened before there is logic behind )
@LauraD-
@LauraD- Жыл бұрын
No not intertained sorry
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
It happens all the time. Not sure what you mean by this hahaha. Play is the most logical conclusion
@nickmitchell6443
@nickmitchell6443 Жыл бұрын
I hate them, the bully's of the sea
@stanweaver6116
@stanweaver6116 Жыл бұрын
If this woman had ever dealt with a mule she could not doubt the capacity of animals to seek revenge. In any case it is foolish to think that they don’t, I’ve dealt with animals all my life and I guarantee that they remember abuse and repay given the opportunity.
@groussac
@groussac 4 ай бұрын
Back in my racetrack days, a mare kicked at me, tearing a hole in my pants and just missed the tibia. I'm pretty sure it was because her trainer had abused her, but instead of getting mad and trying to teach her a lesson, I baby talked her, petted her and eventually calmed her down. I got the feeling that that was a new experience for her. Later on, when she was being shoed by the farrier, the trainer came and got me to hold the lead shank. The mare trusted me. She didn't trust them. So yeah, I believe horses take revenge. I wasn't the recipient very often because I liked horses and tried to treat them right. As a caretaker, I viewed my job as having the horse's back. I was their buddy, their safe place, no matter what they did. That said, there are horses that just plain mean. Nevelle Pride comes to mind. You've got to respect the horse.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate 4 ай бұрын
@groussac what you are describing has nothing to do with revenge. That is an example of building a mutually trusting relationship with animals. Which is great and a vital part of the training process. But in no way demonstrates revenge.
@groussac
@groussac 4 ай бұрын
@@KPassionate I don't know how you define revenge. The mare struck back at her unsuspecting enemy, me, revenge for prior abuse. As she twisted and turned in the crossties, she knew the counterstrike was coming, but it never came. I convinced her that I wasn't on the abuse team. She believed me. That was that. I felt sorry for her. She and her trainer didn't get along, and there was nothing I could do about it. Not a lot of talent as a race horse, but enough talent to send you into the next world if you weren't careful. She could race but she couldn't win, and that was the crux of their problem. Expecting all horses to be good at racing would be like expecting all humans to be good swimmers. But that's the card they've been dealt. Some are good at opening stall doors. Others are good at eating tobacco. Still others go into ecstasy if you happen to know the right place to rub their neck, but no prizes are given out for this kind of thing. In the meantime, if you cross them, they will get even if they get a chance. They're more complex than we're comfortable admitting. We like to think that we're the only intelligent species, but there is such a thing as horse sense, and horses have it in spades.
@gerafinali4384
@gerafinali4384 3 ай бұрын
When I was a kid, we weren't allowed to say that animals had emotions. I lived with pets and I knew they had. And eventually the scientific community changed their story...
@TheHesseJames
@TheHesseJames 3 ай бұрын
Animals can hold a grudge. My French Bulldog is meticulously curating his list of personal enemies. But I wouldn’t call it revenge.
@auntlouise
@auntlouise 6 ай бұрын
When I was a child in SE AK in the early 1970's there was a baby orca killed by a fishing boat with copper bottom paint, apparently it hit it with the metal bow cover. For a couple of months after that there was a bull orca that was attacking boats with copper bottom paint in Kasaan Bay. It hit our 25' skiff and we headed straight for the beach and rammed our boat up the beach, leaving the outboard lower unit on the water's edge, and we hiked home. It was a Biggs orca according to the local natives, and it eventually moved on. I remember being terrified that we were going to be bounced out of the boat and eaten (I was 7 years old).
@Chris03121957
@Chris03121957 Жыл бұрын
Good to hear about the new rescue effort you're helping come to fruition. Also, noted that it is near enough to dear Joey Sea Otter's birthday that I'll say "Happy 3rd Birthday Joey!" Waiter! More clams please! Cheers!
@dogscratchedoor
@dogscratchedoor Жыл бұрын
Thanks! This explanation makes a lot of sense. I recently read some improbable and disturbing comments on the subject. This feels really upsetting that so much is at risk to both humans and orcas
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
It is a big problem regardless of the reason for sure! I am paying close attention to this issue.
@thinking102
@thinking102 Жыл бұрын
F..k the humans I and many others could not careless for them, they have behaved entitled for way too long and destroyed our planet and our oceans, skies, our water, even space with a f...k load of junk flying about humans can bugger off for all I care.
@burtonpatrick3024
@burtonpatrick3024 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@KPassionate
@KPassionate 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jjoo6229
@jjoo6229 10 ай бұрын
That's a very good hypothesis. Orca intelligence should not be underestimated. The original adult might have been responding defensively and/or attempting to keep a measure of control over its environment. Naturally the youngsters would mimick.
@ionaguirre
@ionaguirre Жыл бұрын
We've been at the area (Gulf of Cadiz) engaged in some naval drills two weeks ago. We met those orcas around eight miles south off Cp. Trafalgar. When we headed to the west, going further into the ocean, we saw them no more. The area were we found them is known to be the blue fin tuna passage. So, as soon as we left the zone no more orcas were spoted. Anyway, I agree with the "It's fun" theory. Orcas, as very very smart mammals are known to be able to get bored.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Interesting info! Thanks!
@gracec1665
@gracec1665 Жыл бұрын
What you said makes a lot of sense. Perhaps, the boats are invading their hunting area.
@rachelweinstein9008
@rachelweinstein9008 Жыл бұрын
This was great! Best explanation yet!!
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@mysticwanderer4787
@mysticwanderer4787 Жыл бұрын
It is great to hear the opinion of an expert. Your fear has been mine from the start in that whatever the reason this is bound to end tragically for both humans and the whales. As a layperson, I don't know of any behavioral modification measures that might be taken by humans except perhaps dropping small charges like M-80 firecrackers over the side during these attacks so that it might make this "play" an unpleasant experience without hurting the whales.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
I agree that some kind of sound deterrent could work!
@trevtall1094
@trevtall1094 Жыл бұрын
Maybe do something to the rudder, maybe a timed shock, Orca can take shallow wounds right? I can image brushing against light barbed wire would put them off in a way that doesn't seem like the boats/humans are attacking them. Certainly want to avoid creating more attacks based on revenge / threat elimination like what causes Wolf attacks.
@michaelhoran407
@michaelhoran407 Жыл бұрын
Simplest thing Is leave them alone. Do not injure them with noise.
@mysticwanderer4787
@mysticwanderer4787 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelhoran407 You obviously didn't read my comment "an unpleasant experience WITHOUT harming the whales." This can easily be done with a small charge that boaters can keep on board. It's called aversion therapy in human terms. If these whales in their play sink a vessel and cost a human life then much more harmful things may have to be done including eliminating the perpetrators. Not my choice but governments will be forced to take action to protect humans. It doesn't matter if you or I like it that is the way the human world is.
@louisegogel7973
@louisegogel7973 Жыл бұрын
@@mysticwanderer4787Agreed… set up ways for all boats to have effective detergents that don’t harm the Orca.
@4houndswhoheal479
@4houndswhoheal479 6 ай бұрын
Not entertained. BUT appreciate your devotion to your science & our responsibility. I'm a DAV so can't do much but will help when I can.Thanks!
@KPassionate
@KPassionate 6 ай бұрын
Wow! Thank you so much for your support!
@OFallons
@OFallons 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like we need to add some electrical counter measures similar to what electric eels do for protection!
@ShinLeeChan
@ShinLeeChan Жыл бұрын
Avoid that area seems quite hard 'cause it's mandatory for entering Straights of Gibraltar that is the only way to enter or exit from mediterran sea. In fact if we look at those spots where boats have been attacked, some points are basically at the Gibraltar exit, so it's very unlikely that boats can go elsewhere. That's a big issue, we can't avoid them in total. We may find alternative routes from Portugal but at some point if you need to enter the Mediterranean Sea, you have to pass into the straights. I've bad feelings about this whole situation. I'm quite sure that people at some point won't accept to sink and will fight back. I also think isn't a revenge issue, it's more a threat feeling or competition about food since in that area fishermen and orcas are often competing for it. There were rumors that fishermen could have hurted some Orcas, there were rumors that orcas tried to steal food from fishermen boats... It's mostly rumors so far, nothing clarified from where this change of behaviour comes from. I'm too against the revenge option. Unless there is something we don't know yet. I'd personally feel safe in water with them no matter what. I just love them so much. :)
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Most of the attacks are on people’s sail boats though and not commercial crafts. So if they were debating taking the boat out for a ride or having a beach picnic I’d pick the latter 😂. It does seem like the situation is escalating and will end badly on both sides. I agree with you
@Darenbranch
@Darenbranch Жыл бұрын
Isn’t there some kinda sonar that you could drop just under the surface which emits a noise which the orcas find unpleasant? Obviously this could backfire and antagonise them more , but beats lethal force which I’m sure will begin to happen when peoples lives are at risk
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Some sort of sound deterrent would be my first inclination as well!
@Coveonthecoast
@Coveonthecoast Жыл бұрын
Educational and entertaining as always ❤️🥰😍
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shirt!
@somerandomgirl6093
@somerandomgirl6093 Жыл бұрын
I've always thought of myself as a logical thinking person, but your videos made me realize that I'm also impressionable. Due to the news and the media I have been anthropomorphizing these orcas, attributing revenge as a motivator. but you're right, animals don't think like us, and orcas have only been aggressive towards humans in captivity, why would they only change now, when we've been fishing in their territories for so long and damaging them with our boats? The explanation of the game makes a lot of sense for an intelligent, social and curious animal like orcas... besides, if they really wanted to sink ships it would surely be to hunt (as they do when they take seals out of the ice) and if that were the case they would already have there have been victims.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
There have been plenty of cases of orca being aggressive to humans in the wild. It has just happened more in captivity simply because they interact more in captivity which makes the chances higher. But in the case of the Iberian orcas I think play is the answer. Even though play can also be deadly!
@somerandomgirl6093
@somerandomgirl6093 Жыл бұрын
@@KPassionate I just hope they lose interest soon. The damage to these boats is already making a lot of people angry and scared, the media isn't helping. But I worry that someone will fall overboard during these attacks, or that help will not arrive before the boat capsizes. Not only do I care about people... but it wouldn't be the first time that wild animals that learn bad habits like these end up being hunted.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
@@somerandomgirl6093 agreed!
@pauladonis3445
@pauladonis3445 Жыл бұрын
@@KPassionateI’ve always thought that there must’ve been some cases of aggression towards humans in the wild but I’ve never heard of one, do you have any sources?
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Yes. I think it’s easiest just to check the Wikipedia article for orca attacks. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orca_attacks
@perapan7377
@perapan7377 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for explanation. Keep a good work. Cheers😃
@ingridllinas5612
@ingridllinas5612 Жыл бұрын
It was more than fun. Interesting. Others videos did not mention what Gladis are related to. I do agree it is not about revenge, but fear. Juveniles are playful. Thanks for sharing link and reference. Yeap!
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!
@kenton6098
@kenton6098 Жыл бұрын
They mess with boats because they are teenage Rudeboys.
@ZykaCharlie
@ZykaCharlie Жыл бұрын
Wow! So interesting. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. I have been a whale lover for my entire life, and that’s a very long time. I agree with you that if the animals are changing their behaviour because humans are close by or in their space then we have caused harm to those animals. I live in Alberta 🇨🇦, when we see people stopped on the mountain highways to take pictures of wildlife, that’s one thing but when we see them try to get very close to the animals or even touch them (bears, big horns, mountain goats, moose, bison, elk, etc.) and the people get in trouble….. which means the animals get in trouble. We absolutely need to insist that everyone respect their space. Thank you for the info. ✊👍
@SailingSnowGum
@SailingSnowGum Жыл бұрын
Hello Catherine. Um, ... the presenter offered the view that the orcas were coming up to boats and bumping and biting rudders because it was fun for them. Sailors are doing their best to avoid these orcas but they are choosing to come up to boats. To play. To scratch their heads on the rudder. To bite the rudder to see what it's made of. Teenage hijinks. The solution is for sailors to allow these teenage orcas to learn for themselves that it isn't so much fun after all. Loud and unpleasant noises will work. Sand and chilli in the blowhole will help. Then they'll stay away from boats and not put themselves in harms way. For those who insist it's all because the orcas are hungry, well, if they were hungry they'd be chasing and catching fish, not playing with boats.
@diveguy4291
@diveguy4291 Жыл бұрын
I was recently in this region and I was informed that local fishermen from a nearby nation attacked the Orca due to the Orca stealing their catch. I also would like to point out here that despite the region being known as the Straits of Gibraltar, the incidents have occurred further out more towards the opening of the straits into the Atlantic between Spain and Morroco.
@jwvandegronden
@jwvandegronden 2 ай бұрын
3:35 elephants are capable of revenge type behaviour right? Orcas are on of if not the smartest marine mammals out there so it wouldn’t surprise me at all!
@KPassionate
@KPassionate 2 ай бұрын
Many of the stories about elephants getting revenge are anecdotal or even fictionalized to some extent. Like the story about the elephant who trampled a woman and then returned to trample her funeral? Those were two different elephants AND two different women. Additionally, several news sources were unable to confirm the details of these to events and many of the reports are conflicting. Still, as I said in the video, animals absolutely engage in reciprocity or retaliation. Biologist don't like to use anthropomorphic terms like revenge, which in this case implies a level of moral justification, because it often leads to the misattribution of animal behavior. Which is what is happening with these whales. Many people seem to WANT it to be revenge when it is the consensus among marine biologists that these animals are simply playing.
@heidiblake7957
@heidiblake7957 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing common sense along with your education and experience. I've been watching this happen since there were just a couple boats with the rudders torn off. People try to put human emotion onto animals and it is never good for the animals.
@SteveCoronado2
@SteveCoronado2 Жыл бұрын
While Orca have been stated by everyone to be highly intellectual, some say even more than us. Aside from Hollywood portraying them as revengeful I don’t believe they are being malicious in any way whatsoever. Thank you for your insight as it wasn’t a thought in my mind at all
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@trevtall1094
@trevtall1094 Жыл бұрын
Much the same with wolves, sure they attack domesticated animals but Iirc all but 1 human fatalities to wolves in the US are attributed to humans hunting them. Both wolves and orca are intelligent pack hunters so there is something to learn from there.
@ghostshirt1984
@ghostshirt1984 Жыл бұрын
The movie orca in the 1970's.
@SteveCoronado2
@SteveCoronado2 Жыл бұрын
@@ghostshirt1984 wasn’t sure if anyone would know what I was talking about 🤘🏻💥🔥🙏🏻
@selenaali1999
@selenaali1999 Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for any late middle school/highschool teacher who decides to go on a boat ride then.
@DanielLionArts
@DanielLionArts Жыл бұрын
“Are you not entertained?! You can’t laugh at me!” 😂🤣
@DAVIDMILLER-nc9vo
@DAVIDMILLER-nc9vo Ай бұрын
It's great to see some level headed advice! Most people in the "advanced world" are completely ignorant of wildlife and anything other than themselves.
@lacroixster
@lacroixster Жыл бұрын
I was entertained, and enlightened. Thank you.
@TheSnazah
@TheSnazah Жыл бұрын
Not sure how we can cherry pick emotions that we share with other mammals… especially highly intelligent ones with complex communication and that we Do not fully understand. There clever, and pissed we’ve ruined the ocean many more boats will sink.
@doicounttoo6861
@doicounttoo6861 Жыл бұрын
What's the difference between cherry-picking emotions and assuming they are indeed highly intelligent? Both are "established" by humans. Are they highly intelligent because we don't understand them? Some people say dogs are intelligent. Because they can l;earn a trick? (Domestic) dogs are arguably the dumbest animals around. But why attack sail boats? Environmental clean, silent. As opposed to the noisy freighters. Teenagers having fun makes sense, so does hunting training/attacking a weaker prey.
@zanderday4466
@zanderday4466 3 ай бұрын
@@doicounttoo6861 I think they are highly intellegent . . . ever had an orca come right along side your boat and look over at you while swimming along side? (I have - like 3 feet away) those eyes are connected to a very smart curious brain!
@doicounttoo6861
@doicounttoo6861 3 ай бұрын
@@zanderday4466 Have you seen the wires? But all jokes aside, yes I believe they are intelligent. On their own level, not because we say they are. Evolution? Instinct? Never met an orca, but did pick up a wounded dolphin from the water who only trusted our little boat to come close enough.
@socket_error1000
@socket_error1000 Жыл бұрын
I think a good portion of these reported "attacks" are overreactions as well. Right now any orca encounter in the region is thought to be an attack. The recent reported attack in the North Sea is a good example of this. A 72yo man reported multiple "soft shocks" on the aluminum hull of his sailing yacht and as soon as he spotted the lone orca he thought of the Iberian Peninsula attacks and assumed he was under attack as well. It seems to me from the behavior reported by the man the orca was simply behaving like a curious animal as it never damaged anything, circled and returned a few times much like we often see them do with other encounters that are quite peaceful. The bumps it made along the hull were simply it saying hello or maybe rubbing on the hull, and not the "Ramming Attack" characterized in so many of the news reports of incident claiming the behavior has spread to another region.
@sheep1ewe
@sheep1ewe Жыл бұрын
That make sense, a friend told me that they mainly seem to "attack" sailboats but they seem to loose their interest in it after a while. There where a guy from Sweden my friend helped with the sailboat recently for a trip down to Greece, but he had to abort the sailing because Orcas did buff on the hull and caused ruptures in the glassfiber outside the southern coast of Spain. I personally don't think they are after humans, but probably a toy to play with and maybe scratching off parasites ´from their skin on the hull, my guess., on very long run sailings a lot of marine creatures tend to grow on the hull, so i wonder if they also in some case want to eat some of those animals, like goosenecks barnacles, crabs, etc or some marine algae plants they need vitamins or nutrients from, i don't know...
@socket_error1000
@socket_error1000 Жыл бұрын
@@sheep1ewe Yeah it must also be recognized that this is isolated to this region. If this were happening anywhere else I would more open to attribute it to some behavior like using the boats to scratch themselves on or the rudders as a toy because the uniques shape is interesting to them and has some natural attraction. But sailboats and their unique rudders have been around too long for this to just suddenly be happening if that were the cause. Even the naughty teenager argument doesn't hold up to that scrutiny because this behavior is relatively fresh and isolated and orca and sailboats (of this style) have shared the water for a century and a half all over the world. The big issue is how can it be stopped? How do you discourage an orca from doing this? I have saw a video of racers banging on the hull and it seemed to discourage them. But that was a lot of people banging away. They are not afraid of too many things. Is there a repellent of any kind that could be dispersed? (Other than dumping your black-water tanks) Something they don't like, an orca spray. I have the name for it already - "Whale Away"!
@sheep1ewe
@sheep1ewe Жыл бұрын
@@socket_error1000 I don't know, but sharks fear streams of compressed air, but i am not sure Orcas does actualy care about that since their breathing organs are not affected by that as for the sharks. I wonder if they are sensitive to chemical substances like capsaicin or extreme bitter taste? I know some, but not all mammals are. Rats are to some extent, but they hawe an extreme tolerance for those, but foxes seem to be pretty much as out own level, so i don' know...
@socket_error1000
@socket_error1000 Жыл бұрын
@@sheep1ewe Yeah it is hard to know. I don't think this is anything anyone has ever even considered because orca have never been a nuisance or threat animal in any way before this. The big problem with capsaicin is normally it is inhaled and used to effect the eyes and sinuses. If it could be delivered to a orca in the water it might be very dangerous for the animal. The best potential would be some sort of acoustic deterrent that could be broadcast using an underwater speaker; if there is any sound level and pattern they might be more sensitive to. I just don't know if they have any sensitivity that might be capable of making them leave an area. Hopefully someone does some work on this and helps develops some solution before it becomes crazy people using gaffs and rifles on any orca that comes near their yacht.
@sheep1ewe
@sheep1ewe Жыл бұрын
@@socket_error1000 Yes, and i strongly suspect that the tourism and probably people feeding them from boats in order to bring them to the tourist "whale safari" boats has changed parts of their behavior, although being being closely related, Orcas are not dolphins, but i guess it sound more cute or something to claim that they are, people nowadays seem to call about anything that even remotely remains of a dolphine for dolphins, even Thumbler whales (Phocoena phocoena in latin, what is their name in English?) which are no dolphins at all and newer has been dolphins, but perhaps vagely looks like one and has about the same size of the more popular dolphin specimens one can see on zoo, but still people call them dolphins for some weird reason. so i would not be supprised if that is the case people actualy do feed wild orcas in order to make good posers for the tourists... dolplhines, dolplhines,
@warweasel2330
@warweasel2330 Жыл бұрын
Still not enough ferrets! But was curious about the White Gladis thing!
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Ha! I’ll try to give them a cameo next video
@warweasel2330
@warweasel2330 Жыл бұрын
@@KPassionate Oh! I also have a related question! Do the Otters have the distinctive ferret odors?
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
@@warweasel2330 sea otters have no smell at all actually. River otters are quite stinky though
@knzjvmatc-3
@knzjvmatc-3 4 ай бұрын
One is entertained, informed and subscribed...Cheers!
@KPassionate
@KPassionate 4 ай бұрын
Hahaha thank you!
@cdnerin
@cdnerin 7 ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEO! Thank you so much for your hard work!
@davidphillips8674
@davidphillips8674 Жыл бұрын
I’m having a really hard time feeling bad for people with yachts
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Well these were mostly sail boats but yes 😂
@alitloff
@alitloff Жыл бұрын
Lol I have a ‘Yacht’. It’s 34 feet & 54 years old (but fully restored!) & it’s all I have. (Except a bicycle & a dinghy). I live on it. & yes; I have it better than anyone stuck living on land. I do feel sorry for landlubbers lol.
@jeffreystorer4966
@jeffreystorer4966 Жыл бұрын
Jelous are we, people with yachts don't harm sea life
@dieselblack628
@dieselblack628 Жыл бұрын
Jealous much lol
@jdizzle6324
@jdizzle6324 Жыл бұрын
Nothing worse than a successful person enjoying the fruits of his labor......just terrible. 🙄
@OutnBacker
@OutnBacker Жыл бұрын
I never bought into the "revenge" argument. Too much anthropomorphism gets in the way of clear-eyed thinking. My first theory was that the older ones are teaching the youger ones how to attack the fins of whales - which they do. Most modern sailboats have a fin type keel and a seperate hung rudder, which can look very whale-like. But, if the preffered food of the Iberian orca is tuna, that theory seems less likely. SO now I wonder about the type of boats being attacked. Are they all similar sailboats? Or, are there commercial or private powerboats in th emix - and to what ratio. With 250 attacks reported, there must be some data as to vessel description and a damage report. If all types of boats are being attacked, and in the proportion to their numbers in the area, then my second theory is in agreement with this video: They are playing. Orca play with their prey often. They do it with penguins, sharks, seals, and...whales.
@Rodokaos
@Rodokaos 6 ай бұрын
Thanks mighty algorithm for introducing me to this channel. For some weird reason I can’t stop watching this videos!
@KPassionate
@KPassionate 6 ай бұрын
That’s such a great compliment! Thank you 😊
@suzannejackson1727
@suzannejackson1727 2 ай бұрын
The orcas are not stealing fish, fishermen are stealing orcas fish!
@AeOdin
@AeOdin 2 ай бұрын
i just watched this episode, but had the sound off because my sons were in the room talking... I may not have the full grasp of it, but the attacks are happening as I'm understanding it, because they don't have motorcycles? jk... i did watch sound off though, for the affore mentioned reason and still found myself being informed and entertained. I think that speaks volumes regarding my thoughts about how well this was done. Bravo.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate 2 ай бұрын
@@AeOdin thank you!
@crazywood7593
@crazywood7593 Жыл бұрын
I think glados is just telling the ship for science
@nickychimes4719
@nickychimes4719 Жыл бұрын
Or it could be that orcas are far more intelligent than we give them credit for, and are still simply protecting their habitat, being now critically endangered
@valladolidolid
@valladolidolid Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more
@Benny_000
@Benny_000 Жыл бұрын
Animals are a lot smarter than what mainstream science gives them credit for.
@gerharddeusser9103
@gerharddeusser9103 4 ай бұрын
We are sinking, we are sinking. German coastguard: "what are you thinking about..?"
@mikegeld1280
@mikegeld1280 3 ай бұрын
Can you please explain exactly how they are sinking these vessels?
@andrewsices
@andrewsices Жыл бұрын
Interesting and potentially useful information
@marymorgan285
@marymorgan285 Жыл бұрын
Watch out Ahab! It be your white whale!!!! Seriously, I agree we get to close to the animals. Do we forget that those areas on the planet are more theirs than ours? Who knew all teenagers have somthing in common!!!😂
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
It is their home for sure!
@Droidzi
@Droidzi 2 ай бұрын
Great perspective and insight - thank - will you update us when they come back with info on the necropsies?
@johnkenny.5189
@johnkenny.5189 3 ай бұрын
Just discovered this site. Brilliant stuff
@seanw2823
@seanw2823 2 ай бұрын
You have a great voice and personality. And the info is a great
@maryford650
@maryford650 2 ай бұрын
I was entertained! Very good video. This is the first I've seen of yours.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate 2 ай бұрын
@@maryford650 thanks for watching! I’m glad you enjoyed it
@carllove3705
@carllove3705 Жыл бұрын
This was a very interesting video. I guess no people have been attacked even though some of the vessels were sunk. At least that is good.
@bryangillihan1345
@bryangillihan1345 4 ай бұрын
What a great channel! Love this.
@Amradye
@Amradye 10 ай бұрын
That’s some major Orcitude 😊
@heronemosheppard8877
@heronemosheppard8877 Жыл бұрын
WoW great detailed explanation. Very educational. I am imensly entertained. A joy to discover U. Thank you.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@Joy222U
@Joy222U 3 ай бұрын
Love the outtakes!
@JohnLaue-f5x
@JohnLaue-f5x 5 ай бұрын
you are a born teacher...subscribed
@oliverortiz5226
@oliverortiz5226 3 ай бұрын
Another fascinating subject. Thank you.
@dragonspaw.blogspot4461
@dragonspaw.blogspot4461 2 ай бұрын
4:04 Is revenge really a 'moral system' or is a base instinct for survival? Seals, and even well fed sharks LOVE human affection/attention which suggests we have more in common than many think. I'm sooo glad you diverge from fellow biologists who claim they're just 'playing with these boats' as I was about to leave a comment suggesting they jump in and have a 'play'. Easy enough to prove, eh? ;D) Your explanation makes far more sense; thanks for putting this up and restoring my faith in biologists! *Good luck protecting all these creatures, including the Orcas!*
@ElephantSealResearchGroup
@ElephantSealResearchGroup Жыл бұрын
Totally agree ! We study orcas in the Falklands, and this behaviour looks a lot like playing
@ale7564
@ale7564 2 ай бұрын
I was entertained! I liked. Enjoyed it!!
@KPassionate
@KPassionate 2 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@antoniovaldez4774
@antoniovaldez4774 10 ай бұрын
Maybe they want boats to make the Rutter safer for orca inspection.
@ManuelaFuths
@ManuelaFuths Жыл бұрын
Wow, i am so entertained, love this, the young rebells, your joy and information 🙏🥰 Love and greets from germany 🇩🇪🙏♥️🐎
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@jafo6276
@jafo6276 3 ай бұрын
I am very entertained and I subscribed.
@tomasaleman2724
@tomasaleman2724 Жыл бұрын
First time viewing & that was very informative & especially for a layman. Thank you. Curious, if the boating in the Spanish area, where they’re being attacked, were to stop for a good amount of time. Do you think the “fun” from the Orcas would skip a generation? And eventually stop?
@louisegogel7973
@louisegogel7973 Жыл бұрын
Good question!
@mikewilliams6086
@mikewilliams6086 Ай бұрын
OMG thankyou for a critical and knowledgeable opinion on this! We get so much news from organisations these days who love to sell stories which is not good for wildlife. I was entertained❤
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Ай бұрын
Absolutely!!
@cedricburg8374
@cedricburg8374 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Finally a well thought out analysis.
@KPassionate
@KPassionate Жыл бұрын
I got tired of all the nonsense 😂
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