KPOP QUEENS EXPOSING TOXIC KOREAN BEAUTY STANDARDS (ENG SUB)

[@kathy-l5k]

that guy who told sulli to lose weight is honestly just disgusting.

[@shesapolca]

DEADASS

[@joytaime6890]

k. anyone who tells anyone to lose weight (unless its for medical reasons) is disgusting tbh

[@miffy1995-t4k]

I want to punch his face 😤

[@luvlele1506]

him saying that it’s *his standard* disgusts me. like, boo, no one cares about your standards.

[@Hiyabasumataryvlog]

Yes what does he want 😤does he want her to have only bones it's so disgusting

[@AJ-fx1fc]

"Those are my standarts" Sorry man but us women are not an object and we're nobodys standart. Period.

[@johannsen]

I wish Amber would say this to the guy, "Did you check yourself in the mirror before you left the house? From MY standard, you look like a rotten apple"..

[@orianaa_zp]

sorry but i had to say this, that man aren't even good looking and he had the audacity- like??

[@wilzenryanbolak2521]

I doubt nobody would even want to be his standard.

[@nomnom-be1km]

I hate that when a guy commenting about my appearance, i mean my life is not to be presented to him lmao

[@coconut857]

And he's too ugly to comment such thing (if we're talking visually here)

[@cigarettesandredlips]

I hope that man who criticized Sulli’s body feels ashamed for the rest of his life.

[@allzzjn]

I hope he feels guilty, everyday, for the rest of his life.

[@mohdrahimi6374]

I hope his teeth goes crazy till it pierce his own gums and bleed till he is anemic and thin like the standard he wanted people to be. Like just lay there and be a stone or something

[@treebeexyz6839]

@@mohdrahimi6374 okay I hate him, but I think that's too aggressive. Don't jump right at them- silently stab them in the back

[@etholvr]

When is Sulli's next comeback?

[@asmabez682]

we love crunchy queen gowon shes passed away😭

[@imscardeu769]

“I want to be a mother”, people took her last wish

[@ipsharoy7398]

😢😢

[@kurrasahna7310]

😭

[@khoirunnisa9579]

My heart just cant believe she is no more😭💔

[@khansamaryam7988]

@@khoirunnisa9579 can you please tell me who are you talking about?

[@crispyhyunjin]

@@khansamaryam7988 sulli

[@akirajoestar641]

Can't believe that damn guy told Sulli she should lose weight in her THIN arms. What kind of standards are these

[@bvrajlal]

Did you notice how fugly he was, I mean if he's gonna judge others, maybe fix his teeth?

[@priyapd326]

Yeah wat was worse ,he justified his opinion saying that was his standard when commenting about sulli s weight..the arrogance he had..

[@purpleyuu5016]

Standards of the market. The biggest reason companies tend to try to get the palest, skinniest cutest idols they could get idol-ready, is because it helps sell products. Cant claim that a products whitens skin if the girl doesnt have that smooth cream complexion or good skin. It's the same with why girls shave their legs now even though we didn't before. Companies wanted/needed more money. When you need more, you advertise and make a trend. Some trends just stuck. (Not that I hate shaving. Nothing feels better than smooth legs) More like it's weird that we make fun of each other for stuff like that. If you look deep enough into most things we believe, someone out there is profiting from it.

[@jacoblunn29]

Yeah and imagine if she turned it around on him for his teeth... She'd be crucified

[@placeboseason9304]

fetish of an skeleton in live

[@saalihasadiq5481]

Let's face it... None of these idols are overweight or obese

[@saalihasadiq5481]

@•Happy• •Blank• They weren't overweight/obese and still aren't.

[@khiasvlogs1127]

That’s so crazy to me like 110 pounds and ppl tell you you’re fat wtfffff like sis

[@saalihasadiq5481]

@@khiasvlogs1127 I had to convert that to kgs but yes.... a 110 pounds is nowhere near fat and depending on your height it might even be underweight.

[@khiasvlogs1127]

Saaliha Sadiq that’s the thing that’s so crazy to me like these girls are skinny and they try to get skinner and starving themselves they will never be able to perform at thier best that makes me sad cause now I worry about the girls of bp

[@saalihasadiq5481]

@@khiasvlogs1127 I hate how the industry forces idols who are perfectly healthy to lose weight through dangerous methods. There's a difference between maintaining a healthy weight through diet and exercise and having to starve. The worst part is other Koreans look up to these idols and follow the same. Toxic diet culture needs to stop.

[@1_.0._1]

In hwasa's words " if I dont fit in this generation's standards of beauty, then I will set my own standard"

[@liamkensedurifa1794]

Yes my queen hwasa💖👑

[@1thefull992]

She’s my inspiration.

[@solangemercado9065]

AMEN. PEEEEERIOODDD

[@kukguroki4179]

Whatta babe. Hwasa is such a babe. Fight me karens.

[@RachaelsLibrary]

And she deserves to rule 💕

[@nhuq_inthemood]

What’s crazy is that Hwasa is actually around 98-108 pounds which is the weight for her height. She just has thicker Hips and thighs which is natural for her. I hate these Kpop industry standards like when they are too “fat” they are told to lose weight but then when they become skinny and underweight they are told “oh you are too skinny gain some weight”. It’s weird to me the way they criticize idols. But it’s Korea’s standards.

[@xxmoomooxblinkxx1017]

Yeah I totally agree! Like - I'm 12 years old, average height and around the same weight and have been called "curvy" by my parents and grandparents my whole life 😂

[@gelilamitiku2734]

Oh my- I was 108 when I was ten this is toxic

[@eehyetti]

It happens because they see some fat in some areas they don’t want and when she loses more fat, some areas she should have fat in loses that, too. I know this as I have the same problem. For example I have fat in my arms and little bit of pouch, but not enough fat in my calves. What happened is, I tried to change that going into plastic surgery and ruined my beautiful body. Now I’m depressed and hate myself even more.

[@SimBits]

I can't imagine being 50 pounds lighter than I am currently and people telling me I look fat???

[@oliviatiwaladeadedokun2929]

She does?? I am African, she looks stick thin to me and that should not affect her career is she is talented

[@sandaraiglesias8945]

*Queen Hwasa once said: **_If I don't fit the beauty standards, I'll set my own standards._*

[@mrsjk8268]

And that’s on period

[@shutup3204]

Yesssss 🖐🏽❤️

[@kalebh3419]

But on what planet is she considered "heavy" tho?

[@dark6698]

And yeah she really does

[@chickwit2575]

@@kalebh3419 exactly omg. She is not even 'heavy'. Just has more curves. I would still term her as 'thin' 😶

[@ipurpleyou3473]

Ok everyone now repeat after me “IF ITS NOT MY BODY, ITS NOT MY BUSINESS”

[@onlyonemitch5049]

And the Best Comment Award goes to you purple

[@shironeko._]

@@onlyonemitch5049 lmao fax

[@me9981]

Facts.

[@hayleywilliams4eva766]

Unless you're a doctor

[@s.knguyen_]

That's actually great. Tell that to YG and some other stupid company that have made their idols insecure.

[@tidudddudidam5163]

"you need to be thin". when they became thin, "oh you are too thin". WTH people

[@KRoromon]

Yeah its the same with my hk family. Being a girl whos supposed to be the older cousin, even tho im not asian standard of chubby and fit well within "normal" size, they actually told me im too muscular/toned because i wrestle and dance

[@nadilaa3798]

Ikr. At some parts, I get called thin and fat at the same time (I'm 43 kg and 156 cm tho)

[@malekmalek8405]

They're not even close to being fat!!

[@gt6601]

Basically Britney's "Piece of me" about the media/paparazzi - "she's too big now she's too thin."

[@daspurabi999]

@@kpopsloth sorry to ask but where are you from? Just curious 😅

[@shloka1720]

i feel so bad for f(x) to be honest. Every single member is hated so much for their own reasons. Amber is hated for being a tomboy, Krystal is hated for being too chubby and fat shamed, Victoria is hated for being chinese and also she was once fat shamed so she lost a LOT of weight, Luna literally starved herself to death and sadly Sulli was also fat shamed and hated so bad that she couldn't take it anymore. They were a group with so much talent and potential but it's so sad that they got so much hate😭

[@imhonestlytrying]

Do you remember their NU ABO days? They were so happy back then... It's just sad that they've finally won an opportunity to be a girl group but in the end the fans were the ones holding them back.

[@Hey-jw3dm]

well if everyone in that group died then everyone would've shutted the f up

[@geillabroffenz5845]

Am telling you korea is not okay.. 😫

[@geillabroffenz5845]

@@imhonestlytrying I don’t understand “ to the fans do they have that so called standards body types” korea is not okay

[@imhonestlytrying]

@@geillabroffenz5845 huh?

[@scatterinstars]

"Hwasa is one of the biggest modern kpop influencers promoting a healthy and normal weight within the industry" Go ahead, Hwasa!!

[@unknownmke]

Literally still so skinny. This is crazy how K-pop standards are.

[@ibelieveinwoozisupremacy8681]

@@unknownmke Hwasa is not skinny, she have that middle body type, I remember one interview said that she can't even fit M or S Size ( Korean standard, which is S size in American size ), she eat healthy too.

[@giddybel3985]

@@ibelieveinwoozisupremacy8681 she IS skinny just her body tipe is a normal size like jisoo of blackpink... You search and hwasa is over 44 kg.... But still healthy

[@kpopworld1954]

Yuri snsd Too she s healthy

[@wheeinstanzunite4512]

@@ibelieveinwoozisupremacy8681 actually korean sizes are wayyy effing smaller than american ones

[@your-regina]

It hurts so much when that idiot said Sulli had to lose weight and the first thing she answered was "I plan to lose weight", she had to say that even though she was probably so hurt, I am glad Amber defended her.

[@mdorrdar3656]

and that idiot looked like potato himself

[@Lifeandmuses]

I was like yasss Amber. Teach him something.

[@ienvyu4978]

I hope that idiot is thinking about how nasty he was saying those things to sulli

[@melodycao5376]

Literally he was like that's my standard, who tf cares what YOU want Sulli to look like?? Go and date a mannequin then if unrealistic standards are your thing

[@DeadLkeMe]

Someone in the comments mentioned that guy looked like a toenail face 😂

[@choutzuyu8915]

Remember when TWICE's leader Jihyo said on vlive that "We shouldn't do diets if we don't want to, we should eat what we want while we take care of our mental and physical health"

[@sashab9611]

💜💜💜god I love her

[@Joee003]

Jihyo was also fat-shamed a lot... People are sick

[@user-nd5lg2rj2j]

remember when yoo jiae refused to go on diets and spoke about it and even revealed that she'd sneak her members snacks when they were dieting

[@regalias7170]

We dont know what the thing happen behind the camera

[@HereIsHelena]

Remember when on Sixteen after she was put into minor group for looking too heavy in the photo shoot challenge she came came back the next week and sang "All About that Bass"? Jihyo's pretty thin now and I hope it's because she's healthy and happy but, she's always had that savage confidence. :)

[@labellezachica]

Ailee’s situation is so heartbreaking!!! 😭 she was just trying to pursue her passion which is singing but the toxic and judgmental people won’t just let her!

[@TC-ve9rn]

I'm starting to believe that she might've been better off pursuing her singing career in the US. At least people in the US aren't as judgmental about appearances compared to South Korea. If I were to become a pro singer, South Korea would definitely be the last place I would go to do that tbh.

[@warriorforgod5949]

@@TC-ve9rn If what you are saying is true, how many Asian American singers do you know from US? And, why do you think Asian Americans have to go to S Korea to become well known singer, instead of become a singer in US? Why do you think there are no Asian American singers, when we watch billboard, Grammy, or any rewards? BTS is not Asian Americans.

[@warriorforgod5949]

Allow me to ask you a question. Ailee became a singer, because of her singing skills and, plus her looks. If it wasn't for her looks, she might not gotten her opportunity. If a singing is an only qualification, there are many people who can sing better than Aliee. Aliee got her shot because, of her looks and her singing skills. Then, why complain? This doesn't make sense to me, can you explain? i can see an argument that many talented and better singers compare to Aliee, if they complain that Aliee got her shot because of her looks.

[@TC-ve9rn]

@@warriorforgod5949 There aren't a lot of people that can sing better than Ailee lol. Maybe some but definitely not a lot.

[@TC-ve9rn]

@@warriorforgod5949 Because there aren't a lot of Asian Americans that want to become singers to begin with lol. Most of them pursue a career in a more practical field in big tech corporations like Amazon, Facebook, Google, and so forth or in the medical field where they can be guaranteed job stability. An Asian American mindset in general is very much focused on practicality, money, and job security rather than passion whereas for the other Americans, they are encouraged to just do whatever that interest them the most.

[@tuni16tuni]

"If I don't fit into this generation's standards then I will become MY OWN standard" Ahn Hwasa

[@gaurisharma2992]

Queen 👸

[@lisacollins6615]

Honestly I am so gay for her. She is amazing in so many ways

[@dt4654]

unless they plan to discriminate and oust girls who don't fit the standard, there won't be one standard

[@laurasmith9784]

QUEEN

[@Yohann67]

Hwasa also said "It's ok to not be fine"...... Gogobebe!

[@joli4714]

Imagine being a solid 3 and judging a 10 for being "fat" 😂 that dude needs a mirror in his house.

[@Sparkling_Sunflower]

That guy wasn't 3... he's teeth were going in 3 directions.. he's -3😂

[@chellumi]

@@Sparkling_Sunflower 🤣

[@inessa5923]

It's just overall unnecessary to comment on other people's appearance, no matter what you look like.

[@simpforchoijisu.3234]

@@Sparkling_Sunflower Omg I-

[@Sparkling_Sunflower]

@@chellumi 😂😂

[@reginamayura5093]

I love to see Amber being so fearless to defend Sulli

[@PBVS08]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@prawsolazy9776]

I want someone like her in my life.

[@reginamayura5093]

@@prawsolazy9776 i hope you will find him/het soon

[@AllisWellStar888]

Yeah that guy with his standard.. So ugly!

[@notwerkinginthishouse8634]

@@prawsolazy9776 be that someone

[@noore3703]

When Sunmi said “ I’m a person “.. It gave me chills. Please everyone, just be kind to one another.

[@StreamHypeBoyByNewJeans]

Korean beauty standard is only toxic for foreigners who don't meet it. Every country has their own culture which goes way deeper than your average understanding, if you (or anyone) can't respect that then you better shut your lips.

[@rosiesrose2769]

Tiffany is SO brave for not only encouraging but saying she goes to therapy! It NEEDS to be a more casual and accepted thing. K-pop companies should have therapists available for their artists to talk to annonomausly

[@desss377]

Especially SM...

[@keuzl]

@@desss377 all the companies are bad, dont be fooled.

[@nenechiro]

I don’t know if I’m correct, but I read or heard that BH and JYP have therapists.

[@desss377]

@@keuzl No doubt, it's just that SM Ent seems to have lots of suicide cases

[@keuzl]

@@desss377 yeah that's unfortunately true

[@CrazyPingPong97]

“If I don’t fit in this generation’s standard of beauty, then I will have to become a different standard.” - Hwasa, the IT girl of korea. Every commercial she appears in, the product gets sold out - from instant noodles, down to a comb

[@minniezara]

My favourite part was when she realised who tf she was and that she is beautiful and confident

[@Joee003]

@@Mondscheinstaub Be careful not to thin-shame these other girls though, they probably can't help it and are getting pressure from their companies and from the public... Also if they grew up with these standards of beauty maybe they are stuck with them and can't even imagine their bodies being healthier? Speaking as a survivor of an eating disorder, it's not their fault... The whole industry is to blame, and as fans we are all a part of it.

[@Joee003]

@@Mondscheinstaub Just re-read your comment, my honest mistake, I had read "sickly thin girls" instead of "sticky thin girls". Sorry about the confusion! Have a nice day :)

[@Joee003]

@@Mondscheinstaub I agree whole-heartedly!

[@Esoteraeon]

Hwasa still stands her ground after constantly bullying and weight shaming in korea, with millions of eyes and scrutiny on her. She handles all that pressure with a middle finger and it amazes me.

[@iammai1]

Yo if Hwasa, Ailee, Hyolyn and CL team up, SK's close-minded public is done.

[@QuinnTheSuperStar]

Duuuuuuude!! That would be a bombass group/song collab! Omg. We need fans to suggest this to them all. This needs to happen, lol. For real

[@KitKno]

Holy shit what a power team. That would be the death of me

[@Crisfer05]

It is beyond sad that they are fat-shamed when they are already too skinny. Hwasa, Hyolyn, are under 50 Kg, Ailee is barely over 50. I think Ailee should come back to the US just like Tyfanny and try to start a career here. It is just beyond sad that she is fat-shamed when he is in a healthy weight. They are amazing singers and that is what counts. I agree I would like to see them have a collaboration in at least a song. I'm gonna say though I like Hyolyn and Ailee more, they are two of my favorite Korean singers their voices are just mesmerizing.

[@wttwtt9843]

hell yesss

[@voldemortsunbaenim3490]

I wanted to write the exact same names 😅 their bodys are 🔥🔥🔥 ..and the fact that I’m not into girlgroups, but i love mamamoo and the other three are the only women i listen to. Damn good singers, and amazing personalities. I also loved sulli for who she was. This just shows how different we think about beauty standarts and mindsets

[@janosky_5476]

"Its my standard" He had balls for someone with nasty teeth.

[@deadcorpse69]

@changbinnie who is he

[@arishlevi318]

His standards are just too low ...

[@sunnyjeon]

God, this video’s about hate on someone’s appearance, and y’all keep doing it. It doesn’t matter who you’re criticizing, it’s wrong anyways. I know his attitude was terrible but it doesn’t mean we have the rights to talk about his appearance. Y’all are doing the same thing here he did with Sulli on that show.

[@arishlevi318]

Yup right , criticizing someone on thier looks untill its a medical issue is okay . But putting your fantasy on someone who have nothing to do with you is insane . The company has already done a lot of changes ... So they don't have to say anything.

[@arishlevi318]

@a.z. You know what , we all are like this ... You never know untill its on you ... He surely have enough hate to face after the words he spoked ..

[@minlilia6617]

Remember when a fan asked Hwasa about the best diet and Hwasa answered just eat, Hwasa set an exemple for refusing to conform to their unhealthy and toxic standards they maybe hurt her and still do but she refused to break down and made those who criticized her and hated on her look ridiculous when she became one of the most requested female idols for cfs and her billboards are everywhere in Korea, she's shaking their clappy beauty standards that's an exemple of a strong woman

[@ifyourenamjoonreadingthisi619]

Min Lilia this is why I Love her 😔

[@minlilia6617]

@@ifyourenamjoonreadingthisi619 me too, she's my love

[@felixsbutter4141]

I LoVE U And HWASA

[@minlilia6617]

@@felixsbutter4141 uwu love u too

[@felixsbutter4141]

Min Lilia UWU ☺️ thank u

[@rtto2031]

I really liked that you included sunni and thin shaming too, its often overlooked

[@extraleague01]

I really hate slim shaming. People say fat shaming is bad, but that does NOT mean slim shaming is ok.

[@LM-ix7pk]

Shaming anyone for the way their body looks is gross because they have no control over that

[@rtto2031]

@miko yah cause thin people absolutely don't get insulted, shit on or insecure 🤙 and you do realize that models are thin because what they wear is a sample size so they're going to want to sped less fabric possible on it

[@maybenexttimesweetie2090]

miko I have a cousin who is just naturally very skinny and her family is always telling her “your so skinny you are just gonna fly away some day hahaha” “your so skinny does your mom even feed you hahaha” she doesn’t have the ass everyone wants so she gets shamed for that by kids at school and she is very insecure about all this because there is nothing she can do about it because of her wicked fast metabolism so yes skinny people do get body shamed and insecure just because you don’t see it happen often doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist

[@saizampuiisailo4290]

@miko umm it is...I am naturally thin and cannot gain much even though I eat a lot..I felt really insecure for a long time because everyone I meet was telling me about how unhealthy I look and how I "should eat" ...*sLim sHamiNG iS nOt reAl *🤣

[@jungwon_luv-152]

"you're too fat" starves self and loses weight "you're too skinny" eats a little and gains some weight "you'r too fat" ok wtf do you want them to do now???

[@Theo46]

Koreans need to change their beauty standards if they do they won't get depression easily and their suicide rate is gonna go way down just saying though nothing personal

[@tinahovhannessian4888]

Ubi Theotokos my dude, it’s your opinion, SAY IT LOUD AND CLEAR!! I totally agree with you - these beautiful and talented women are pressured by society’s standards when we should be focusing on their talent. Shame, really ;(

[@parrotsparadise18]

To not have a damn body I’m guessing

[@robinbennett3250]

Ladies and Gentlemen, my family.

[@TA-oo2rd]

I guess the cultural idea of beauty is, beauty is pain. But hurting yourself to please others is something that shouldn't be done. They should take care of themselves and not feel pressured to please others.

[@allaroundyu]

It's so silly if a singer, like Ailee...I mean, goddammit, can Korean just enjoy her amazing voice and not only judging her looks? She's not even overweight, she's beautiful, and she has the voice that's not so common for most Korean idol

[@oneplusnine5400]

Every time I listen to Ailee's songs I get goose bumps, she sings like a goddess, Korea is blessed because of Ailee and Hwasa and Hyolyn and Eunji, ... this list never ends

[@kenaut7075]

Sadly KNetz are the worst fans in the world... If they don't like you they will try to destroy you and your career...

[@박소욘-v9n]

clearly that's not the case in SK... it's sad but true... we hate to admit. having a great talent or skill here is good but if you meet these so called "standards", then you're in another level... you have to understand, the competition here is crazy that's why more and more people are listening to Jessi Hwasa CL among the few

[@arc0613]

Ikr! Her voice is so different from most of the female idols and very attractive to listen. I would love to listen her.

[@hi-lp9bs]

Thank goodness, she joined the l1ve, and she is doing great!

[@chicas5809]

It's sad Sunmi had to even remind everyone she is a human too with human feelings T.T

[@leviloveserwin1809]

gglife Sone I know. People think they are gods or something. They are human and deserve to be treated as such

[@asideofaioli4630]

I've always thought she was stunning....ppl are trippin.

[@keyboardbunny]

Can't agree more when she said we're all the same just people with different occupation. Seriously these people provide entertainment. Without them we'll be bored as fk. So if you don't like someone just skip and don't listen or watch very simple. People just can't help themself because they are miserable losers they want to drag other's down with them. >< Tsk

[@angelawilliams7332]

She thicc and I’m a dam twig

[@isam1542]

The fact that that bombshell Hwasa is being called "heavier" says lots. She's perfectly healthy and has a beautiful, harmonious body.

[@roxassora2706]

She's the Asian Beyonce

[@Eryss_Official]

She’s so beautiful. I can’t believe they hate on her perfect body 😭.

[@armyshope]

I don't understand she is very beautiful.

[@Yes-bl7mp]

true, hwasa has a healthy and curvy body and I love it

[@anndiary2512]

Yeah, i thought hwasa is so sexy

[@tastymudpies8785]

It's not even funny. The man telling Sulli to lose weight is nowhere near attractive. He is a fan. She is the star. The audacity!!

[@thecollector5243]

If I were a star and rich, I maybe would have hired someone to bring that guy's knee caps up to m.y. standard...

[@jaynejayne7680]

He said that it’s his standard. When he looks like a rotted potato. Standard my foot😂

[@homarika3809]

He said it's "his standard". Like i can say I'd like her having bigger eyes or short hair, but is that a mean comment too?

[@anjiher458]

if he has to say something negative about her, he is not her fan and she doesnt have to abide by his standards. He should just look elsewhere, there might be a girl somewhere in the world who would die to be 5'2" and be 75lbs, but she won't be as beautiful as she should be at a good weight for her body.

[@SilmeriaFantasy]

But even if he was a star himself, the most handsome person on the planet and all, he'd still have no right to say that, I hate people like him so much

[@shhhhhh1012]

Leaving SM and moving back to LA was the best decision Tiffany has done. She took time to slow down, had multiple therapies to work on her mental health, and take care of her body more. Look how she's glowing now. I respect these ladies so much, they've been hammered to be perfect since they were trainees and those thoughts stick to you for a long time. I'm glad that they're able to speak out now, I just wish they wouldn't get hate whenever they do speak but I guess it is a process.

[@DearlyBeloved652]

How can a guy with a face like THAT even fix his mouth to criticize someone about their looks with a camera on him! All of these beautiful girls are criticized by people who look WORSE than them! Real life cases of misery loves company.

[@minomnom]

The worst part was when he said it is his standard, like that's a reasonable explanation to justify his piece of shit opinion. This is making me sick.

[@hailmuse]

"it's my standard" Me: time for you to get a makeover then chico, you're no where near conforming to your own goals

[@s_ana9298]

And the person he called out specifically took her life or should I say murdered by bullies like him. They all should rot.

[@tsukipon74]

the crowd too was like "that's not it fam"

[@trashrat6333]

Omg and the crowd looked so disgusted at him! The two girl’s faces in the crowd were like “umm...hello? Have you seen yourself??”

[@daniaizzah7001]

i hope Ailee can somehow be famous around the US... the perception of beauty in the US is much more diverse in my opinion compared to SK...

[@fladioaileeans9501]

She is trying to make it in the states now so hopefully 🙏

[@sherylebleed4962]

D joy .Not on your opinion is true.people in south korea always think that they live in a barbie world.

[@scarship8250]

Maybe, but america doesnt have a diverse amount of asian artists. I think they are kinda... Racist with asian artists. Not only singers but also actors.

[@imthecoolest50]

The problem is, most Koreans aren’t even close to reaching their own beauty standards that they force idols to have. Unless they themselves have achieved those standards, I don’t think they should get to decide how idols should look like. And here’s the thing, they haven’t. The country isn’t filled with beautiful or perfect people, they’re regular like everyone else on the planet.

[@lakirakira]

US is more diverse in terms of body shapes but do you know any Asian American singer who is mainstream popular? Or actor? Americans are still not open to Asians. Even BTS is still not fully embraced there.

[@shilloe13]

The guy who dissed sulli has to fix both his face and personality.

[@polarnyong]

I would love to fix his face with my fist

[@yujibell]

Dw i'll fix his face for him 👊 👊

[@kdjoshi726]

And teeth if possible

[@rose-marienelson1034]

Ikr. Can't come talking about someone else's appearance wen he's not even fair to look upon

[@hermioneera]

if i found out his @ i would love to give him some lessons and would make him look at the mirror how ugly he is

[@aleynak2014]

6:00 Look at sullis beautiful smile after amber defended her 😭❤️Rest in peace, angel, you will be missed.

[@Hey-jw3dm]

wow so she died. I pay my respects. Even on a yt video.

[@andraarwen]

Omg😨 poor girl... RIP🙏🏻

[@cecileroy557]

This is so sad. And the way the male Kpop idols aren't allowed to date & have someone in their lives is heartbreaking.

[@ekaass1735]

Hwasa : "if I'm not that type of beauty standards, then I will make my own standard"

[@drazelleguilot930]

Hwasa is a queen!!!!

[@jungwonscarrehhhh2195]

I'll remember this

[@mothmaniscool]

👑

[@rajbijz]

U go girl. Thats the attitude and not Sorry. Love Hwasa and Jessi for loving themselves and standing up to bullies. It is NOBODY'S BUSINESS.

[@nawalkhawar7602]

honestlllyyyyyyyyyyy that quote is my go to quote for a confidence boost...she's a QUEEN

[@yourwattpadmafiahusband2496]

Imagine only liking and supporting someone just for their body and then body shaming them. Glad I can't relate 🤢 EDIT: don't spread your negativity, if you have shit to say that disregards the hard work of *ALL* kpop groups, then say it somewhere else, not here. THANKS FOR ALL THE LIKES 🤧😗💀

[@yourwattpadmafiahusband2496]

@I Stan too many Kpop groups. Uwu Nah

[@pauline6552]

I Stan too many Kpop groups. Uwu health matters

[@ratadedospatas1]

I Stan too many Kpop groups. Uwu I’d rather have a chubby healthy and happy idol than an idol who’s suffering and stick thin due to starvation

[@tre1447]

L M do you think male idols have it harder then female idols ?

[@yourwattpadmafiahusband2496]

@Spring_ Wind BTS, EXO, and BigBang are great in their own ways. All the groups I stan, I consider them kings or queens. So let's not be toxic and say one is better than other especially underneath my comment. Please and thank you ❤👌🏽

[@armyjams6436]

Tiffany - The Veteran OG, she been through and seen it all yet came out alive & is now teaching others how to get through it Hwasa - The one still fighting but from within to change the industry one idol at a time. Ailee - Proof being the most talented in the world wont stop people from trying to put you down based on looks. Amber - Victim of circumstance and walked away with too many battle scars on her heart.

[@shreya446]

honestly though, this just makes me bawl out...

[@farahedora7482]

I hope all these queens stay strong cos no matter what we’re here for them. There will be haters but there are more people who loves them and I really hope they remember somewhere out here we really love them although they might not see it 😢💕

[@honeyfaerie5363]

Sunmi - victim of jealousy, ppl hated how she had such a high metabolism and did everything they could to bring her down, like calling her ugly. But she stands as a great soloist and was very loyal to wonder girls till the very end.

[@gfdchugh]

And parkbom destroyed by corrupted government spreading fakenews about her being drug addict and plastic monster

[@35_talithashahiza29]

armyjams but Ailee is sexy while cute at the same time

[@taetanniecistherealshipher6624]

The fact that most of these people who judge idols, they themselves don't conform to these 'beauty standards' , now that's what's ironic. Only one thing to say, 'Judge others when you yourself are perfect!'

[@Hey-jw3dm]

ew

[@taetanniecistherealshipher6624]

@@Hey-jw3dm and what exactly do you mean by that?

[@Meimei_31]

@@Hey-jw3dm go away troll

[@almilall]

the thing is these people are not idols so with your logic they cant criticize their dancing/singing abilities bcs they re not singers/dancers

[@taetanniecistherealshipher6624]

@@almilall still doesn't grant them the rights to bash people who put in their very best to what they do, almost to the point of exhausting themselves.

[@gt6601]

"Was that the influence of Beyonce, Beyonce thighs?" The guy who said that to Hwasa is really rude, I hope his thighs shrivel up so bad, he wishes he had Beyonce thighs.

[@andrewgil4843]

lmaooooooo

[@Lalahk]

Geraldine T I thought the same thing. What an asshole. In his mind loving Beyoncé relates to being chubby. Wtf?

[@kdjoshi726]

I really wanna feel like punching him in the face but if he meant it as a joke, then K

[@sugastonguetechnologymakes2650]

@@kdjoshi726 tbh even as a joke thats so dumb 🤦‍♀️

[@kdjoshi726]

@@sugastonguetechnologymakes2650 More like it crossed certain limits 🙃

[@_animatic327_]

Literally Ailee and Tiffany weren’t “chubby” or “fat”, you can see it in the fan and, their bone structure is different than the ideal standard. A wider expansive ribcage and wider shoulders or hips can sometimes make the body seem slightly rectangular, they were both perfectly normal. It just makes me mad to see how much they suffered for something in their biology, something normal.

[@mehtaabkaur1295]

Most aquarius,gemini,taurus women have rectangular shaped,masculinish or if you want be a little feminive then curvy body bone structure

[@xoticsinx6279]

its so sad because in other countries they'd be considered thin or normal at that size.

[@Lena-zn4re]

It’s why Tiffany is doing so well in the US now. Not only is she allowed creative independence, but she is free to do whatever she wants with her body. She’s got curves that are heavily sought after, especially in Western countries. And now she’s embracing all of that. She couldn’t be any better, in terms of physical (and I’m only assuming mental) health. I’m glad she’s gotten help and is happy right now.

[@RapIsDeadly]

@@Lena-zn4re Tiffany left Korea because the neitzens and many South Koreans never got over the Japanese Sun flag incident. She had enough.

[@user-mv7cb7hy4v]

i know right? they are just being healthy and people are coming for them

[@evey3335]

The guy who told Sulli that she should lose weight in her already thin arms can't even @ nobody. This boi's teeth went ↗➡↘⬇↙⬅↖↔⤴↕⤵⬆

[@theshaful]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[@ellanorico8255]

OH MY GOD YES HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@z.b.5201]

LMAAAOOOOOO DRAG HIM DOWN SIS or BRO IDK

[@alyssajones4368]

😂🤣😃😄😅😆🤓☻😺😸😹

[@mohdrahimi6374]

Lol, he better not let us find him or we gonna smack him down till the deepest part of earth

[@holdyourhorses7658]

I'm so happy when I see idols like Amber standing up for herself and others, because it's so hard to do so in this industry and most of the time idols are forced to bite their tounges and keep smiling.

[@maiagobbo]

It's crazy how Hwasa is considered "a heavier figure". I mean, she's beautiful and have an amazing body, but she's in no way someone who I'd say it's "a heavier figure", she's curvier than most kpop idols, but she's really skinny. It's insane how weight is so taken into consideration for kpop idols, mainly girls.

[@maiagobbo]

@@gem3275 oh? what have she said/done?

[@ajhewoewahhhwee5998]

@@gem3275 yea and ur embarrassingly stupid 🙌

[@sabrinjama4113]

@@gem3275 no she isn't,she was uneducated and that's different from being a racist,if you're a black person and can't except her apology then don't watch her video's and leave her alone,bcs you hate her right,then ignore her spreading hate is for no one allowed

[@macaron2xx633]

She looks perfect to me, I’d kill to have her body. The people who criticise her have no right or any logic to their claims. They’re delusional and they’re feeding an unrealistic and deluded “beauty” standard.

[@misslauryn1]

@@sabrinjama4113 bruh she still said those words though, c’mon even 10 year olds have been educated better then that 💀

[@shffer3590]

"I get that you have your own opinion, but you can't hurt others with your opinion" well said Amber. These women are heroes and should be remembered with love, not hate or judgment for withstanding these cruel expectations

[@Joee003]

Amber probably knew how fragile Sulli was. That man is a murderer

[@alienorlazarus9972]

@@Joee003 Even if you are not fragile, the guy's comment was stupid and the show was humiliating, why are they allowing that?

[@Joee003]

@@alienorlazarus9972 Korean culture is sick on that regard... Anorexia is socially accepted and valorized

[@kahinaoftheelements4845]

@@Joee003 Korea as a Capitalistic promoter is horrible in every way...They live in a country where everybody is ostracised if he/she differs from the rest

[@ohlookmarki]

There’s no winning for girl idols. It’s always “fat and ugly” “skinny, awkward and not sexy” “so ugly” “She’s only an idol coz she’s pretty no talent” Like damn, give these women a break.

[@Nawalsamer04]

there is no wining for girls in generaly its sad like the girl in my profile has an amazing personality and is a very pretty while the one she dated cheated on her when looks way uglier and was the one saying he wont cheat on her ( since her other ex jake paul cheated too) either way thats why feminism exists

[@cessdomingo2063]

Tiffany Young is inspirational. She did not gave, work hard just to deliver her art.. She is the example of "you can never bring down a great talent".

[@hannaheclaire8184]

tiffany is such a stunning and radiant human being, i absolutely adore her.

[@multifandomcoconuthead5581]

❤️❤️

[@datkidsocute7790]

She really is... But can you tell me where she is from I’ve never heard about her before

[@dindacharmelita7665]

@@datkidsocute7790 Tiffany is a member of Girls' Generation (SNSD) but she left SM Ent. already and currently she's active as a solo singer in America with stage name "Tiffany Young". Her personality and talent is amazing, i also really love her songs 💖

[@heronjames5062]

Yeah

[@elsylovesplacebo]

She’s an angel 🥺

[@JustNicole6400]

That guy who commented on Sulli’s arms.... I would literally fight him if I saw him today...

[@jamesburge2438]

i would knock his teeth out, that would be a minor improvement but not much

[@ozielka3157]

Someone who sit beside him should punch him to his senses. 👊👊👊 cuz he is literally blabbering non sense.

[@laurentuypens4369]

Me too

[@CP-ko3xz]

Je clearly doesn't know what a healthy and normal body looks like.

[@yamelsaavedra8899]

Same

[@yourpillow5194]

you should've included RedVelvet, when people said everyone except Seulgi wasn't taking care of their body. especially Wendy people fat shamed her but when she finally lost weight they thin shamed her? that is so messed up

[@magneticmoon1350]

Some people just live off of hurting others. They are never satisfied. But so what anyways. 😒😔

[@layloo5244]

Nojamsforyou wb irene? Her weight honestly looks the same since debut. Yeri, Joy and Wendy however received so much bs.

[@Flopped69]

Did they speak about it?

[@yourpillow5194]

@@layloo5244 agreed irene's weight was always the same since her debut but people just had to find something to talk shit about

[@aoifecoffey]

It’s horrible but the reality is all female idols are shamed. If it was up to me I would have included every female idol ever. What they were putting in this video were idols who speak about it.

[@lalalalila5237]

I WILL NEVER STOP SAYING HOW I LOVE HWASA. She's one of the few people that I respect the most. Just like what she said "To you the standard of life is yourself, to me the standard of life is myself" Let no one dictates how you should live, what you should look, or how you should act.

[@bella2308]

Glad that Amber had defensed her member and didn't just become a yes man to their fan.

[@Maithrypappu]

I was searching for this comment

[@teresawasenius2844]

Seriously I would have stood up and told that guy to "shut the fu🤬k up, who the fu🤬k is he to say that to Sulli! He was no prize to look at!"

[@rennazhang426]

@@teresawasenius2844 if I was there I could have bashed his head on the floor without any remorse.

[@sincerelykim661]

He was not their fan. The clip is from a show called Hello Counselor and the sister was on the show with a concern that her brother that guy who told sulli to lose weight is keep telling her to lose weight. The shocking thing is his sister is also skinny. Nonetheless it‘s still disgusting that he thinks he can tell someone to lose weight just because it‘s not his beauty standard. I was shocked when I watched that episode of the show.

[@ralea4149]

And crystal just did fight agains him straight on the face "gain some weight"

[@Lyn-rv3vl]

That's why Hwasa changes the game in South Korea: she's not ashame to be herself ! She's litterally like 'Keep talking I don't care... I just want to eat" x)

[@sagenguyen8174]

Im glad Tiffany left Korea, Im not saying America doesn't have issues with image, but being half Korean, I understand the judgement and pressures of looking perfect in Korea. Its daily my Korean family tells me I need to lose weight or I am not pretty enough, I am still learning how to be mentally strong and not listen to them, but its hard.

[@theysaycleanmyroomisaynott3358]

Don’t listen to them you are beautiful just the way you are ❤️

[@sanjanadevarupala166]

You are really beautiful!! don't let ppl get to you or your self esteem

[@laylamarie1805]

You are so beautiful!!!! Don’t fall into that beauty standard break it ❤️

[@iamyu]

one thing you can do, is just agree with everything they say. “yeah, i really should lose my weight now.” “yeah i know i’m ugly” throw all those self criticism on their face while eating as much as you want

[@kaalinertia7140]

Hi sister im from india im also fat and there was a time i was worried about my body a lot i was so stressed my parents told me to loose weight but when kpop come in my life i think that im best in my own way even i also do gym but never stressed and it makes me really happy i also suggest u that u r most beautiful in your own way never think that u r fat u r really pretty

[@EliseFreshwaterBlizzard]

I can't tell you how refreshing it is to hear someone I used to highly respect in Kpop say 'look after your mental health'. Thank you Tiffany.!

[@natd602]

As an American, I think Ailee is gorgeous and visibly thrives when she’s at a healthy weight. Hwasa is STUNNING and actually pretty skinny to me. You can see by her waist size and high energy that she’s actually in really good shape. Both Ailee and Hwasa can sing to the gods. Lisa and Rosé are skinny legends who are incredibly beautiful and talented dancers that are perfect just the way they are. They are healthy and are also in great shape which you can easily see by their performance level. Can we stop paying attention to appearance and just appreciate the talent they are serving us?

[@uwu-fm2kj]

I love Lisa and rose but they aren’t healthy I’m sorry, they are BMI 16, that’s pretty severely underweight.

[@legakhsire]

I love Lisa and Rose as well but I'm sorry to say that they are SEVERELY underweight. 😔

[@isam1542]

@@uwu-fm2kj I see why Lisa, who is a dancer and also looks the fidgety-ever-active type, would be skinny both by conscious choice and moving a lot. As a dancer, it pays off to be able to move your body as you want. Rosé, though... She's a singer. Then again, she doesn't look ill. It's sad to be able to count Lisa's ribs, though.

[@uwu-fm2kj]

@@isam1542 take this with a grain of salt since its obviously anecdotal but, as someone who comes from a 'naturaly' skinny family full of athletes both Lisa and rose despite they're active lifestyle are not at the weight they are naturally. I could see Lisa and Rose being bmi 17 with their lifestyles but not 16. My guess is that YG is still demanding a very particular aesthetic of them. I really hope im wrong and they're just fine but well.. we know the Kpop industry

[@yokubo7220]

@@uwu-fm2kj You see, as the comment pointed out, if we stopped paying attention to other people's body, even if it's OuT oF cOnCeRn, only then would people feel free to weight however they want. For all you know they're naturally skinny, prefer to be skinny, or maybe they are pressured to, but you're still in no place to dictate how one should weight. Sunmi is a great example of that. Now repeat after me, "not my body, not my business".

[@user-me8ys2dt9l]

Hwasa has a great figure. She’s basically body goals. She breaking the korean standards for color and body shape

[@Butterball2829]

ace 7806 honestly like we arent built the same! imagine making fun of someones natural pear shaped body...

[@jihoonrosepark1825]

Trueeee

[@Yussirah_]

@@Butterball2829 Ikr it's terrible. These people who comment such rubbish really gotta reflect on their words. Stop saying such nonsense just to make yourself feel good. It's ridiculous. Hurting someone for your own good is the last thing you want to do.

[@asideofaioli4630]

I'd give up my niacinamide serum for a yr, in exchange for her body! Like seriously! She'd be on a pedestal, and get so much affection here in the states. But i know, our girl hwasa has to stay in Korea and keep creating change in the industry, and how viewers feel entitled to speak horrifically humans being

[@afrinsayed5902]

Color? Lee Hyori and Hyolyn did that LONG ago?

[@yoshimitsu843]

"I don't make music for eyes, I make music for ears"- Adele Ppl, who like these idols because of their pleasant body only, should be technically referred as "Toxic fans". Music is the freedom so the singer's choice. 3:30 hit me damn hard! I can't stand by the irony of those f**ktards who always criticize their hardwork. Give them some time yo dislikers!!

[@garrondumont]

Yeah, I barely watch any of the videos of Kpop. I listen to it because I like the music, and the few times I do watch the video it's because I love the choreography and their chemistry. It's got nothing to do with their bodies.

[@sayakakuhinata9425]

Kpop artists are not specifically portrayed as only musicians. They were made to portray perfection in the young generations eyes. Regardless of how companies represent them as, it's mainly the fans and people in Korea that needs to set their standards in a realistic level. Yes it's their job to act a way and look a way, but their human too and before being portrayed as an idol they should be portrayed as human first.

[@marinosbasiadakis585]

Not only the company but Also the people treat Idols like products. This industry must fall. its so bad and hurtful for fucks sake.

[@johnampusta5321]

Yoshita Singh Raghuvanshi Yeah I really want to punch the faces of these Possessive Toxic Fans if only if I know them....

[@denisechong2210]

Tbh I think this idol culture is toxic. What they do is basically just putting a barbie doll in front of the public. And the public buy it, its better nowadays but its hard for them to express themselves musically, many of them learned how to sing how to dance how to look but not how to compose music, I'm sorry to say but a lot of famous group now are only making so called "fast food music" it's like after the promotion over prob won't go back to listen the song. Don't come after me but sometimes some people just doesn't have the musical talent to carry their career on without the company supporting them. And also the tbh the celebrities also treats their fans like they are their girlfriend which later on their career came crashing down after dating scandals and etc. But people who are into western music culture likes the song for the song itself. There's a lot who actually broke the law(drug issues, sexual harassment cases etc) are still accepted by the public as long as the music is good. I wish for a good environment somewhere between these 2

[@nevelyn.knudson_lee3824]

Ailee, Tiffany, Sulli, etc deserves so much more then what they got

[@dejajade6726]

I want a collab between Hwasa, Hyuna, Jessi, CL, Hyolyn and Sunmi: female Korean artists that don't follow the expectations and rules set for them.

[@marcopolo5285]

omg hyolyn 😍

[@eli_sonj]

YESSSSSS

[@blvckbarbie9270]

And chungha

[@noot761]

I Agree!!! That would be a huge slap to those people

[@gracehan8446]

And Amber!!

[@madameadia6962]

5:54 "thats my standard" *sTanDaRd mY aSs, I almost choked bruh...go and buy urself a mirror lmao*

[@buymeginasap1614]

Madame Adia I hope now he is blaming himself

[@krystalemeraldguanco1484]

I watched that episode of Hello Counselor, since it was fx. The issue that time is this girl complaining about how her brother (the jerk guy in the vid) kept on telling her that she's too fat. But her height is around the same height or taller than Sulli, and is only freaking 47kg! When I watched it, if I can only slap that guy's face from the screen, I would do it. Then I was really impressed on how composed Amber and Sulli was after that guy body shamed Sulli. But yeah.. Amber and the rest of f(x) together with the hosts and the audience made a deal with the jerk that if the girl received more than hundred votes from them he will stop calling her fat, and would zip his mouth. And the jerk is over confident that her sister won't even get 50 votes. Then the hosts said "We'll see." Then the vote came out and it has an almost perfect vote. But yeah, Amber almost punched the guy if she's not professional. Seriously, Korean mindset is so fucked uo and so obsessed with their standard of being beautiful. Their foods and cultural heritage are beautiful, but their mindsets are really to another level. I'm not generalising, but most of them has that. I think it comes from too much insecurity and jealousy.

[@madameadia6962]

@@krystalemeraldguanco1484 ikr...i watched that ep long time ago too....that man really too much.

[@madameadia6962]

@@buymeginasap1614i hope too!

[@percabeth86]

Boy's got too many teeth growing out his goddamn mouth to talk properly!😂 I know it's mean. But you reap what ya sow!

[@xoxogossipgirl444]

That "these are my standards guy". Me: searches "how to slap someone through the Internet".

[@multifandom8274]

me: how to fix an ugly guy's teeth who talks about beauty standard

[@kdjoshi726]

Mannn I'll be backin' you up! Yo tell me when to grab da gun-

[@dreamxxbutterfly]

Me too

[@calix4930]

if it was possible to slap people through the internet people might be dead now

[@pratibhasingh7639]

Let me grab a riffel

[@huntress1013]

I didn't know Tiffany until recently but I am glad she is doing better. The way idols in general (C, K and J) are treated by the public as well as their agencies is scary AF. The public either showers them with too much love (scary too) or there is this incredible toxic hatred that is heaped on them.

[@wewantot8comeback251]

OMG I forget how thin Tiffany was :,( my babie nooooo She looked so sad and she didn't deserve what happened to her. That country is going to kill all the pure souls while the criminals run free.

[@multifandomcoconuthead5581]

ikr😥

[@ghadakameche2248]

It already did kill pure souls (sulli and hara and jonghyun 💔)

[@notyourdays]

What happened to tiffany???? I don't know about it.

[@il.u.vgojosatoru6516]

I'm glad Tiffany is recovering, she and the rest of the members had it hard through their careers

[@shreya446]

that's honestly such a tragic fact....

[@bigfrog6401]

"thats my standard" okay but you don't even meet ur own standard so how tf you gon tell others to meet it?

[@hanindhira]

Imagine some girl actually shush him and say "idk, u even look so ugly in my standard"

[@thiseconomyiscra_y]

@@hanindhira I don't normally support that but damn someone should do it to him

[@camila-qe6yv]

he looked so dumb saying that to sulli, i was thinking like who tf are you even...

[@bubblebeean]

THIS COMMENT👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@eval5779]

big frog right, like who tf does he think he is to say that

[@N_A___]

Something about a year ago I saw comments of a man under IZONE performance. He called Chaeyeon an "ugly duck". When fans defended her saying "even if she doesn't fit some standarts she is still beautiful on her own" and talking about how talented she is and that it's the most important. And his answer was "it's not a talent show, it's a girl group." And I couldn't stop thinking about that all this time. This mentality of seeing idols (especially girls) just as pretty dolls is honestly fucked up.

[@petalpotionsart]

Oh that makes me so angry. Chaeyeon has a healthy body, she looks healthy. She's beautiful, she looks healthy, and she's one of the best dancers in kpop right now. People can fuck off with their bullshit

[@vronji]

@@petalpotionsart the only ugly people in this world are the ones who tell other people that they are "ugly"

[@runway5338]

Is that guy mentally slow? It’s a girl group for MUSIC. They’re singing and dancing, which requires an adequate amount of talent, skills, and hard work. I hope that guy’s just young and dumb, and not an adult who received a full education and life experience. Otherwise, he’s very pitiful. Edit: wanna give props to the ppl who stood up for the female idol. At least they’ve got ears to hear talent, and a brain to notice it.

[@N_A___]

@@runway5338 Unfortunately kpop is not only about music, and to be honest, it never was about only music. There is a reason why idols are called idols and not just singers. But people being so obvious about their motivation of stanning a group (probably having fantasies abour dating an idol, only be attracted to a person and not being interested in music at all).. that's the thing I cannot understand.

[@silentlyjudgingyou5748]

@@N_A___ Not everyone. I personally ONLY find interest in the music, nothing else. I just care about and want these artists happy and making music. Anything else like how they look or whether or not are they overweight doesnt matter. But of course the sad reality is that the majority of kpoppers are mainly only in it for the visuals. Only in it for the "look, im into this really pretty person, look how cool i am, look how great my taste is bwah bwah"

[@shunnmyatmoethwin7207]

I love how Amber defended Sulli .

[@gretab7242]

I'm so sorry for Ailee, she has a wonderful voice and she's an incredible singer, one of the best - if not the best - in Korea. But some people only care about her body (which is perfect, in my opinion) and hate on her for such a stupid and unjustified reason. It's the same for all the other idols who have to deal with mental health problems because of this sick industry...

[@verydeartomyheart]

she is super talented. i hope her fanbase is growing and support her all the way

[@gretab7242]

@@verydeartomyheart Me too, she really deserves the best

[@jennieandjoyisningningsmot2843]

She is queen

[@saintc7790]

Agreed. When Ailee came on the scene, the vibe changed.

[@omegabinu6976]

Why can't people care more about the talent rather than the body of the person?

[@omegabinu6976]

Nam Nugooyen so basically if their body ain't that great, that means they are not great as an idol or a singer??whats with that kind of a mind?

[@omegabinu6976]

Nam Nugooyen ok i get it.I get that its a part of being an idol in korea but I really wish koreans would go easy on these idols as they are humans too,they have feelings too and dreams to achieve which shouldnt be looked down on bc of the shape of their body.If their body is not upto their expectations,they can simply just not stan them but instead saying things like "you're ugly" or "ur gross" is really hurtful.I just hope one day ,they will understand that they are humans too not some robots.

[@shaikirakira]

@@khoale3095 I 100% agree. With you. Korean idols are human. Its so insane how they get judge of their body shapes. And figures. Beautiful.!! Korean idols. I wish they didnt have to try to change themselves. I will never understamd these korean standards. Its very sad. This would just make them stronger. Im proud of Hwasa, and Sunmi. For not caring. And embracing themselves. Truely queens. Im half Japanese and black. And i live in America. And the blacks would say im too skinny. And im flat. So this body shaming happens in america also. But i realize to just EMBRACE. EMBRACE YOUR BEAUTY. Its feels really good just being yourself❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@imthecoolest50]

The problem is, most Koreans aren’t even close to reaching their own beauty standards that they force idols to have. They themselves have yet to achieve those standards, and they think they get to decide how idols should look like? It’s not like the country is filled with beautiful or perfect people, they’re regular like everyone else on the planet.

[@infinity-gn9xq]

Because they are products... If they themselves dnt look the epitome of beauty then how will they sell stuffs.. If a idol isn't lusted after..or inspire a sense of "i want to be like her" will people buy things she/he endorses?? It's our fault basically!! After all we consume things they vouch for knowing very well the product didnt gave them their beauty or success

[@rasigadhanya8952]

People: you need to get thin Someone: *is actually thin* People: oh no you are too skinny and need to gain weight WTF DO WANT FROM ME!?

[@greenzii4429]

Thats the sad truth of this society

[@kalebh3419]

It's almost like it actually has nothing to do with weight, and more about controlling women's bodies for no reason

[@moonchild9256]

Literally 😑

[@jenxie_7755]

This is what I hate so much about society like if your gonna tell someone to change their body shape but won’t be satisfied either way then DON’T bother at all. Some people really do be acting like gaining/losing weight is something that is easy to do and that anybody can do it. When you really think about it, it’s like society is dominating you, if they don’t like your body you have no choice but to change it and it’s not just your body, celebs had to change/sacrifice many things because of what the public would think. (in some cases)

[@Your_Hacker193]

Yeah,really it's too much😠😠😤

[@1NJapan927]

I don’t get how people have the audacity to cal Hwasa ugly, when she is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen. I have soo much respect for her, and her beauty it so captivating .

[@thatkpopsis]

I completely agree! After I became army myself, I started checking out girl groups and I couldn’t get into any of them until Hwasa and Mamamoo. She is my all time favorite female artist. She’s beautiful inside out.

[@MyNguyen-rz8xb]

It’s always the ugly one to have “high standards”. Atleast she’s resting now. Rip Sulli

[@El_Shogun_Adrian]

I don't think she can rest because she took her life, that's the last thing you want to do and consider you're going to Heaven in paradise because god can't forgive those who take their lives. I'm not what religion they believe in or if they believe in any but taking your life can't make your soul rest, you'll most likely be stuck to cross over

[@azzwipe8672]

Awesome Adrian God is fake

[@El_Shogun_Adrian]

@@azzwipe8672 nope he's not

[@El_Shogun_Adrian]

@onee- chan we wont know until we die them our answers will be solved

[@komodobeats239]

@onee- chan I'm not super religious but my family is, and I'm pretty sure it says that taking your own life is a guaranteed ticket straight down, I think God does understand what humans go through, after he sent his son to learn the extent of human emotions and cruelty, but I also feel like he would rather you come to him for your problems, rather than choosing to take your own life, and I'm pretty sure that isn't something she did however I obviously dont know, but this is the way I interpret it, I'm open to disagreements!

[@demadontcontrolus2333]

people who say that Sunmi is ugly need to get their eyes checked, like she is one of the most beautiful people i have ever seen in my life

[@miffyn1737]

Im so gay for her and it's heartbreaking when somebody says bad thing to her. She's so beautiful.

[@dainaoldacre1783]

@@miffyn1737 rip sulli she was an angel

[@Harrasbambi]

The thing is that some of these "fans" tell their idols to lose weight and look thin. For example Sulli but then some of them body sham Blackpink's Rose and Lisa cause they are thin and tell them to gain weight. But I'm confused, you wanted Sulli to lose some weight but isn't Rose's and Lisa's bodies the type of body you want Sulli to have but you want rose and Lisa to gain weight? I'm so confused like....imagine some one keeps bullying you for your weight and you couldn't take it anymore and take you own life. All I need to say is that some people are idiotic freaks.

[@emmaamshah]

Akadia Estwick 💯!!!

[@laonagrouchini]

PREACH

[@sj211]

IKR

[@foochungmin6185]

True

[@lilith-4687]

Istg the beauty standard is really baf

[@lilacdroplets]

I'm actually so scared for Gahyeon of Dreamcatcher. She has received multiple hate comments about her body that she told her members she'll work out and go on a diet; when they told her she does not need to do that because she looks perfectly, she insists and said she's not satisfied. It's just so scary what all of these 'standards' can cause someone to destroy themselves. I hope it breaks sooner.

[@heykaylc23]

I've caught this as well. I like that the other members keep telling her that she doesn't have to or to do so healthily so hopefully that means she has a good support system around her or people who are looking out for her.

[@wheeinqueen]

Hwasa said: " If i don't fit this generation's beauty standards , I will make my own standard "

[@ELmayberry]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 and she did it

[@liaratano6967]

Hwasa doesn't even have a "heavier figure". Her waist is snatched. She weighs maybe 50 kg at most. She has naturally wider hips and thicker thighs than most korean women, and some morons see her as "fat" because of this. It's ridiculous, and the fact that she's remained strong despite the hate through the years to end up where she is today is truly inspiring. A lot of women (myself included) would absolutely die for a body like hers. Edit: I can already see people are jumping on this comment to give their opinion on her weight. You realize that's doing exactly what I'm talking about? Just in a more shady and low-key way. Like you completely missed the point of my comment and this video. Ridiculous. It's kinda just a less extreme and more petty example of what she's dealt with her entire career. Good thing she stays unbothered and successful ❤️

[@yejisuschrist4893]

Definitely not 50 kg To have thighs that size at 50 kg her waist would have to be way smaller Edit: this comment was probably kind of out of place sorry :) I was kinda thinking she was taller, so she probably may be 50 kg, anyway she looks great. Sorry this came across as bad!

[@HentaiLoveline]

I agree, I would also die for a body like Hwasa's

[@ap_pel4014]

I have wider hips too

[@melanysanchez1476]

50kg is a healthy weight if consider the high and structure. Not because if you weights like that you're unhealthy

[@limonade2544]

she’s literally hot , like wow

[@PrinceFluffy801]

Ever since Tiffany moved to the US, she’s been very open about her struggles and she really advocates self-care. She uses her platform to empower one another and as a fan, I feel super proud of her and her sincere intentions. She has a very good heart. Even some of her songs like Not Barbie and The Flower carry these messages. I hope more people will support her and discover how great of a person she is. 💕

[@emanhafeez3635]

"I worked so hard and yet I'm still not good enough" 💔💔💔

[@vasudhasingh5109]

That's the saddest thing ever the trainee has to bear

[@noelleaparte3870]

Man it’s really really hard to watch amber defend Sulli and realize that Sulli is gone. 😭 RIP

[@aizalindo7160]

Sulli's smile broke my heart.

[@Yussirah_]

@@aizalindo7160 she has the greatest smile ever... But what we all didn't realize was that there was so much pain behind that gorgeous smile of hers...

[@itzelmontalvo6645]

I was about comment on that,why are people not talking more about that moment

[@wearethebulletproofarmy1596]

5:42 the dude criticize sulli but him himself looks like a toenail

[@theyoutubewatcher3286]

Seriously wtf ... " I got standard " he said proudly with his toenail face . I almost throw up .

[@bequietdontcry4218]

Good thing amber held back her anger and was being professional about it. If i was in her place I’d ask him to fix his teeth bcs yeah “we have standard”

[@breezybabe0019]

Ikr.. the audacity of him with his half ass tooth 🤣

[@Tiffany-ov2jf]

"standard" I hope somebody smacked some sense into him smh. Unrelated but Korean people are sometimes extremely kind that they rarely acknowledge a problem for what it is this is why they're still in that ok boomer age lmfao

[@Madelope]

Lmfao exactly acting as though he fits into the same standard looking like THAT. Goddamn I wish someone said it to him during the show..

[@AsteriskBlight]

The worst part is that these girls aren't fat, nor curvy nor thick. They are skinny according to westen standards.. and also, isn't it creepy that Asian ideal beauty is girlish child-like looking bodies? Creeps me the hell out

[@Remyameenah]

So perverted really

[@mariamp9217]

No different than the fashion industry. If you want to make it, you gotta be size Double Zero. They're obsessed with killing woman's true femeninity and health.

[@i2yuris]

Ikr, like Hwasa--i don't get it..

[@chiwooverse]

Not all asian ideal beauty is like that, i think u meant japan, korea and china

[@chiwooverse]

You should fix the comment bc this statement just have the same energy as if im saying all western beauty standard want are big butt, b**b, and lip. Plus looking older than they're supposed too? I've have seen a lot of underage kids that looks like a mother of three would do. That creeps me out✨

[@queendee4325]

Looking at this make me appreciate my country more in Nigeria we believe everyone is beautiful, fat,thin,short, tall we just don't care i love my country😊😊😊

[@thefrustratedneetaspirant7777]

Also in India...I am glad we don't have any toxic beauty standards.

[@kanchanlal8583]

@@thefrustratedneetaspirant7777 Yeah

[@shreyamaurya4166]

@@thefrustratedneetaspirant7777 yes we do. But not that much. The real problem is the aunties which are like netizens

[@diazisbaby1916]

@@thefrustratedneetaspirant7777 lol u know that's not true

[@unnithan-sg4gm]

@@thefrustratedneetaspirant7777 There are definitely beauty standards. But they do not get in the way of jobs or talent. Like we have singers and dancers who do not fit the criteria. Film industry definitely has.

[@NightBeyondVeil]

why is ailee wasting time in korea she can be successful in america.

[@NightBeyondVeil]

@SHINeexokpop she just needs to try again

[@ywluv]

Because people in america are racist. But i mean not all of them are but you know- like how Bts performed in the BBMAS but was insulted with racist remarks and was told to to back to korea.

[@NightBeyondVeil]

@@ywluv i didn't hear about that.

[@ywluv]

@@NightBeyondVeil not by celebrities but the locals

[@fladioaileeans9501]

She will this year

[@chxrryglo5s846]

notice how they're all girl idols...

[@uribabydontstopchorom3257]

Yes.....

[@eleonora1228]

Kpop industry is actually really tough on men too. I know BTS members have gone through multiples unhealthy diets for example. I think it's worse on women (because, as usual, the main function of a woman is to be beautiful) but still. The industry is just too image focused I think

[@coconutjuice7345]

To be fair the title is kpop queens so there are probably male kpop idols who have struggled as well

[@stanyou9947]

This vid is just about the girls so there won’t be any male idols in this.

[@cherriex-t9v]

𝙺𝚘𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚗 𝚋𝚎𝚊𝚞𝚝𝚢 𝚜𝚝𝚊𝚗𝚍𝚊𝚛𝚍 𝚠𝚊𝚜 𝚖𝚘𝚛𝚎 𝚑𝚊𝚛𝚜𝚑 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚝𝚘𝚡𝚒𝚌 𝚘𝚗 𝚠𝚘𝚖𝚎𝚗 𝚝𝚑𝚊𝚗 𝚖𝚎𝚗

[@CH-nb3nz]

"That's my standard." Such entitlement! He says this so confidently as if he is such a prize. It's like he expects every girl in every kpop group to live up to his standard. Men listen up. Like who fits your standard and keep your mouth shut on the ones who don't. The entitlement is so disappointing. You destroy lives with your opinions. Shame on you.

[@liansangpuiichhakchhuak8550]

I think he must hate himself so much so that he needs to vent out his frustration on someone who he thinks is (mentally) weaker than him ... kudos to amber for defending her bandmate...but still i feel some of the girls from the audience should have defended sulli too..that would be so much better...RIP Sulli...such a gentle soul...

[@popolives]

It’s not just the men, the women themselves also imposes beauty standards on their own gender. I feel like Korean society is a little too obsessed about looks.

[@thesunrisechick]

She was so skinny when he said that too. Like go date a skeleton. Probably would be the same to be mad his wife can’t get pregnant or would hate her after for putting on weight.

[@IceQueen975]

Women as well. Let's not play pretend we don't do it to one another as well, if not worse. It's a lot easier for a woman to brush off a guy's diss vs a fellow woman's. Just as how men flaunt money, status and wealth for *each other* , women flaunt beauty for *each other as well* .

[@shan4482]

Ugh! How I wish I could give him two tight slaps. How dare him to say that to a woman.

[@beatrizdearaujo8328]

I love Hwasa, she’s the definition of a strong, hot, empowered woman!

[@valeriaciudad1722]

8:51 the fact that they got so happy for weighing les than 50kg made me sad bcs that's what korean culture normalize and make it look like a "goal" in woman's life to "starv" for beauty

[@meowo_-_-]

Val City the most sad fact is that Korean people often look only of the number weight and they didn't consider how tall is the person and makes a big difference if the idol is 1,70 cm or 1,50 cm .

[@seluminals7938]

Yep cause I'm very thin and 55kg buttt... some people would jump into conclusion and think that I'm chubby, but I'm really 175cm so I can never get those numbers

[@exonambawan4467]

@@meowo_-_- yahhh bmi is really important i think a lot of idols are severley underweight for example 172cm but she only has 49 kg if you compute it its really underweight i think knetz need to educate theirselves

[@GeorgiaGrown90]

Hwasa is literal body, vocal, and confidence goals. Who ever says she's overweight is probably just trying to feel better about themselves.

[@Goshen45.10]

"I was really chubby as a kid" "Were you influenced by beyonce? (laughs) Beyonce's thighs" 😑 are you serious....

[@Chiichikaaa]

Ikr it’s really sad how their mindset is...

[@Goshen45.10]

Yup a sad one dimensional beauty mindset. I keep thinking about idols like: Kai (exo), N (vixx), V (bts), hyolyn... who are mocked for having darker skin. Its so ridiculous.

[@nowrinyasmin2110]

@@Goshen45.10 wait seriously I didn't know that!

[@mapotofu1841]

@@Goshen45.10 IKR it's insane bc those people are literally perfect. Same with CLC Seungyeon and Twice Tzuyu

[@jessicarabbit439]

@@Goshen45.10 its sad but the colorism is real.

[@lelengtintin2404]

I'm crying. F(x) has been my ulti-group. They are the one who introduced me to KPop. I really love the girls. I was so young back then, I could have at least defended them, especially Sulli from the antis. F(x) will always hold a place in my heart.

[@thatgirlwholoveskpop]

When I saw the "TIFFANY in 2016 and 2020" comparison, I felt like crying! Look at her legs in 2016: you can clearly see that she is in a lot of pain and that she wasn't eating well... I'm not thin-shaming FANY or anything, I'm just saying that you should let these idols live their lives. Don't make it any harder for them than it already is! They're perfect just the way they are; appreciate them and their talents!

[@RapIsDeadly]

Tiffany lost all the weight when she was outcast by Koreans. The Japanese flag incident turned Koreans against her...Tiffany got very depressed and lost weight. She finally decided to leave Korea and not renew her contract to set herself free from the stringent SM Company and the unforgiving Korean people.

[@thatgirlwholoveskpop]

@@RapIsDeadly I know. That made me so sad. I was very upset at that time. Why can't people just let idols live?

[@Bongi344]

I'm so proud of baby Hwasa. Also, you'll never be forgotten Sulli.

[@Miskymusic]

But Hwasa is body goals like ?? Koreans strive to look like skeletons, and when someone is naturally very skinny they put them down saying they´re "unhealthy" DUDE

[@knumlol7980]

Minsky some female kpop idols have fast metabolism, they can eat whatever they want still not weight, people were hating on Lisa just because how skinny she was and like that, I also wonder why body matters? Let appreciate their talent instead of their body and face. :(

[@yktvtxmmy]

i mean look at rosé at this point you can practically see all of her bones it's not healthy and ion know if yg just puts the girls on diets or something but like its not healthy to see idols go through this type of stuff because they get bullied for their weight and than feel like they have to lose it just so the people will treat them better

[@rachelsheefan7893]

All my friends was saying I'm unhealthy because I'm too skinny Cause I was 45 kg and 170 cm

[@disanabjan]

Rachel Sheefan i’m sorry but you have to find new friends :/ 170 cm with 45 kg is good! You have height, 45 isn’t much for your height. I’m 164 and 53 kg. But i look healthy. I’m not chubby, but i have thick bones. Forget about your friends. You’re superrrr healthy! And i bet you look beautiful 🥰💞

[@rachelsheefan7893]

@@disanabjan Thank you, everyone is beautiful

[@MilaBelen]

This is heartbreaking. Seeing idols as dolls basically, is one of the most hurtful things you could do to someone.

[@itsonlyjulian]

Some of you might be too young to remember back in 2009 when Hyuna called out T-ara CEO on tv for making Hyomin starve.... and the look of horror Hyomin had her face like she knew she would be trouble for Hyuna comments. This industry is messed up !! T-ara spoke about stealing half-eaten food from a meeting table that wasnt even eaten by them and sneaking into a toilet to eat it !! these women want to sing and perform, let them do just that !!

[@jofip1999]

The guy that said “you should lose weight” well my dude, you should fix your teeth Edit: It wasn’t my intention to have a war in the comments nor speak as if I’m better, I just thought it was funny

[@NymeriaStark12]

And your face... and your prehistoric mentality...

[@orilili]

Reacting to that by judging his looks doesn't make you a better person. The problem aren't his teeths but the awful personality

[@JakeReeves001]

Oriana Lombardo what’s fair is fair if he’s going to shame someone for their looks he deserves the same🤷🏽‍♂️ and people die because of his disgusting words

[@orilili]

@@JakeReeves001 No, you're wrong. Reacting the same will make you as bad as the person. You're judging his looks too. That's not ok even he his just shit. That's not the right way to react.

[@mollarunn3346]

@@orilili then what ? Toxic people won't stop until they feel the same

[@snigdhhamishra934]

Queen Hwasa said once: "If I don't fit into the standards, I'll have to set them myself."

[@sugandhisaxena6965]

5:54 Can I break his visibly unaligned teeth through the screen?! Like giving her pressure and hate comments on social media was not enough that they did the same on reality shows. I will never forgive the people who made sulli to end her life.

[@Hey-jw3dm]

alot of people feel this way