Kraton 4s V2.5 diff & shock mods

[@adamwolfy4826]

Love ginger in the intro 😁

[@rccrazy]

Mr Carrot, he's a nutter😆

[@timallen6035]

Aw! Kitty, kitty! Good video. Nice upgrades.

[@rccrazy]

He's a funny cat, thinks he rules the shed😅 Thanks Tim

[@scaleworksRC]

Kitteh! That Kraton runs like a champ, man! Nice jumps and driving there

[@rccrazy]

It is such a smooth rig, definitely runs like a champ😁 Thanks mate🤘

[@barrywright1311]

Love your set up and your land is beautiful

[@rccrazy]

Thank you very much! It's a good spot, lots of dogs sometimes😅

[@Kevz8611]

Great video man. Love the DIY stuff. I'm still new in this hobby, got two 1/16 scale cars. My Mjx 16207 reminds me of the car in this video, just a smaller version.

[@rccrazy]

Thanks very much mate👍 Always good to have more people in this awesome hobby😁 Yes the little 16207 is a cool looking buggy.

[@Kevz8611]

@@rccrazy I do the camera Drone stuff. But it's just not the same. Its cool to fly, but it's actually pretty dull in comparison to these cars.

[@rccrazy]

I know what you mean kind of, I fly fpv race/stunt drones and I had multiple 300kph+ planes but nothing has the same effect as a basher smashing a ramp and doing a double flip🤷😅

[@Kevz8611]

@@rccrazy yeah man, and if a plane crashes or a Drone it's pretty much done for, a write off. Cars stay on the ground. Can't damage them that bad. Much cheaper as well.

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

Awesome upgrades and adjustments brother leading up to a premium basharoo! This thing is a powerhouse man! Thanks for sharing Saul!💪🏼😎👊🏼✌🏼😆👍🏻

[@rccrazy]

Thanks Robbie😁 It is definitely a machine especially considering it's a full plastic chassis. Got to get the big ramp out very soon and properly send this and some of my other rigs🤪🤘

[@bradandmarksrcgarage4940]

Definitely a good one, loving my outcast 4s 2.5

[@rccrazy]

Yeah I'm more into the long chassis bashers but if I was to get a short chassis it would probably be the new 4s outcast before most other stunt trucks on the market👌

[@LegendsPizzaCo]

What weight do you recommend for good bashing shocks

[@surfside75]

Picked up the Kraton 4s v2.5. Soaked it down in wd-40. ordered a stainless steel chassis skidplate, suspension travel limit straps and chassis dirt cover. Will do the center diff 500k and shock oil.

[@chrisginoc]

How’s it after the dif oil?

[@surfside75]

@chrisginoc I never had a chance to install upgrades or even drive tthe Kraton 4s yet. Ended up buying the Kraton 6s v5, the Vorteks 4x4 blx, a senton and a baja rey black rhino. Most of my time has been spent getting the Vorteks and the Baja Rey to be happy with a 150a esc on 4s🤪🤑

[@chrisginoc]

@@surfside75 Should I stay away from the Kraton 4s V2.5? I can’t decide between that or a Fireteam 6s or even a Mojave 4/6.

[@surfside75]

@chrisginoc it comes down to the size of the area you have to drive. Can you handle the power/size of Kraton 6s. Heck 4s isn't much smaller. I am migrating over to Arrma 3-4s because of the driveline design with NO diff cups. Something else to keep in mind is the Bigger and Faster (6-12s)the truck the more it will break, higher maintenance then 3-4s rigs. Bash-On🤪👍

[@chrisginoc]

@ All good points. I appreciate it. Tough one

[@ZacStack]

Nice vid mate I like your cat lol

[@rccrazy]

The feral brothers😆 I have 3 cats now, that one(Carrot) and his brother were actual strays kittens 6-8 months ago😅 They had a sister but she disappeared quite soon after getting used to me😥

[@davidboyes5360]

Nice video buddy the kraton 2.5 looks a lot stronger than the V2 I went through 3 of them chassis you still can't get the new chassis thay are still selling the old ones in Oz so I thought bugger it so I got the majove chassis and put into it just had to redo the side skirts put 2 new holes in the front of a Kronos body and made a new centre brace and what a beast it is no more broken chassis and I Run 90 Waight shock oil to can't wait for your next video cheers 👍👌🤟😎

[@brendanohalloran892]

I got in contact with modelflight regarding the new version chassis which they didn't know about it. Anyway, they have just put an order in for 10units now, and eta is 4-6 weeks.

[@rccrazy]

Wow sounds like you made yourself a beast for sure💪 I am definitely loving both Mojave and Kraton, little disappointed about the Mojave chassis but the carbon plate and skid plate have made it 10× stronger so hopefully I have a indestructible beast on my hands aswell🤞😅 Thanks heaps mate, got some cool upgrade vids coming🤩

[@Freddy2X4B-523P]

Thanks for bringing out the Crat mate 👍 would love to know what the distance record is for a flat out jump for this rig 😆

[@rccrazy]

Your welcome mate, absolutely lovin this weapon bar the steering of course, it's a bit sleepy at the moment😴😅 And I would imagine a 40-50 foot jump would be possible given the right circumstances, 70feet when we go 6s🤣 No I won't be pushing it that far.

[@NickMaxted]

Go the kraton 😊😊

[@brendanohalloran892]

I just replaced the servo saver spring with a kimbrough Large HD Servo saver spring, which is thicker gauge spring and has made a big difference. Maybe give that ago? The servo saver is the main issue.

[@rccrazy]

100% agree with you👌 But how the hell did you get a stiffer spring in there?🤯 I struggled with the stock one😅

[@brendanohalloran892]

Pretty easy once you know the easy way to get the spring in there. Do you know this trick? kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYPXhJSres19a7ssi=TIJBhtXknb5Cxq7W

[@ZacStack]

You should do a vid ( if you haven't already) with your collection I'd love to see it

[@rccrazy]

I have kind of done those sorts of videos but a lot has changed since then, I will have to do another one I guess. I probably need to do a general channel update vid aswell but I don't want to make it just a boring update🤔😅

[@ZacStack]

@@rccrazy understandable

[@Max_rc323]

That skidplate looks mint! how did you cut it so well? also what diff oil should i use in my arrma kraton 6s?

[@rccrazy]

Thanks mate! I just cut them with a jigsaw, guess I've just done it so many times now I'm getting better🤷 Diff oil is really experimental, all depends how you want you car to feel, maybe try 70k front and 40-50k in the rear and see how it feels, I find thicker in the front improves steering and control. Centre diff I would go no lower than 500k but normally I use 1million weight for 1/8 rigs.

[@Max_rc323]

@@rccrazy thanks for the help going to have to keep saving im going to upgrade everything in 1 go so there is less messing about

[@rccrazy]

@Max_rc323 your welcome mate😁 And yeah good idea having spares or all the upgrades sitting and ready to go on👌 Good luck!

[@Max_rc323]

@@rccrazy you should see the spairs i have for my maxx haha unbeliveable i can fix anything on it

[@Mick_Au]

Nice mate went into plenty of detail what you were doing to the car and explaining everything 😁 Skid plate looks great roughly how long did it take to cut it and shape & file it all nice? Did you find out why it changed in sound did the motor move? Enjoyed as always mate I know you seemed disappointed that you were only doing small jumps etc but it’s still great to watch mate! Cheers mate 😎

[@rccrazy]

Yeah mate I'm slowly remembering to mention and show everything😅 The skids took about 1 hour each from stencil/design to finish. I just pre drill all the inner corners that I can't cut with the jigsaw and it makes things so much quicker, very easy to work with even 6mm polycarbonate and because its clear you can worry about mounting positions when it is finished👌 Didn't figure out the noise yet, well it kinda just stopped but i will check the gears and everything next video, got some upgrades to go on aswell😁 Honestly I do get a little bored because there, I do prefer much bigger jumps, many RC cars are capable of much more as am I just to toot my own horn for a second🤭 As always Michael, I really appreciate the your support and love your comments!

[@Mick_Au]

@@rccrazy That's cool mate thought they may have taken longer than an hour not to bad at all. Hopefully you can get out with your dad or Ange and hit some bigger jumps soon 😁 Looking forward to some more videos mate as always. Try not to get too hot over the weekend is this heat I'm staying inside! Lol Cheers man 🤜🤜

[@heinzforizon8318]

Would 60c 4s lipo battery be sufficient to run in this truck? Thinking of using a 5300mAh Gens Ace battery, would you recommend or should I use a different battery?

[@rccrazy]

Sorry mate I must have missed your comment notification. Yes I would run a 5300mah 60c 4s, perfect👌

[@NewLifeeight]

Nice truck. Do you ever run any Hobao vehicles ?

[@rccrazy]

They definitely done well with this rig. No I have never had a Hobao

[@doubledome2076]

Arrma Tough‼️👍👍🦾🦾🤘🤘

[@infinitybeyond1089]

It's donkey time honci@🫵🏿🤬

[@frederickgrassie3383]

If you ever put in 1 million in the center diff, could you do a short video on how it runs? I have same kraton 4s v2.5, did 90wt oil in shocks, 500k in center. Factory recommended. Thank you.

[@rccrazy]

Yes I will do a video if or when I change it, I have no 1 mill oil at the moment but I need to do another oil order soon anyway, hopefully I have enough money next pay day🤞

[@frederickgrassie3383]

@@rccrazy thank you.

[@joevozzo1]

What diff oil did you use I filled my Kraton with 500 000 cst it's whellie more

[@rccrazy]

Yes thicker will make it wheelie more as all 4 wheels will now be spinning at a closer speed compared to the front wheels ballooning like mad with thinner oil in the centre diff. I use 500k oil and yeah I find it to be perfect for most smaller 1/8 cars.

[@joevozzo1]

@rccrazy thanks I also put 500k in my Kraton I like the way Ur car drives as per video should I go lower in the centre diff

[@ZacStack]

Hey im now thinking about the arrma kraton 4s blx v2 do you know whats the biggest 4s i can fit in it id like ovonics or zees but i Didn't reslly know the size of the tray

[@rccrazy]

Just measuring the lipo bay in mine, it's around 155mm and about 55mm wide. If you mean the actual v2 rather than this v2.5 I can't help, haven't got the older one.

[@ZacStack]

@rccrazy ah righto thanks so much where abouts in Australia can I get the 2.5

[@ZacStack]

@rccrazy I looked it up on the arrma page which I should have done in the first place and it's 165mm so yea thanks anyway how's your cat carrot going now?

[@rccrazy]

I got mine from Modelflight.com Where I get all my bigger cars. But you mentioned 165mm, the lipo bay in the newest version isn't 165mm it's 158mm to be exact and depending on the style of lipo when you take the wires into account you may loose a little more length so the cells themselves technically can't be longer than like 150mm. My Youme 6500mah 4s lipos definitely do not fit. Oh and Carrot is a trouble maker now, healed and insane😅

[@ZacStack]

@rccrazy o ok I found these ovonics 6000mah there 138mm,x48,x48mm so I think they should be OK

[@LegendsPizzaCo]

How much fluid do we need per shock? How do we know how much to use? Same for the diff how do we know when its too much fluid lol. Just worried about under/over filling? Sorry for the dumb question I'm newbie. Also what shock weight do you recommend for my kraton 4s. I usually bash on a BMX track jumping alot.

[@rccrazy]

Not dumb questions but in regards to the shocks I did specifically say in the video for bladderless shocks you can fill it all the way up, but if your not running bladderless then you have to remember to leave a little room for the bladder as excess oil can cause extra spring action. Oh yeah and if it's over flowing it's too much😅 Diffs are similar, leave room for all the gears and your good, diff oil is designed to run not stick so it doesn't have to be completely full as it will lubricant the gears while the car is moving. I run rather stiff shocks so for bmx tracks personally I would go with 80-100w in the rear and 50-60w in the front (with stock springs)

[@frederickgrassie3383]

What oil do you recommend for front diff? Center diff had no oil, refilled with fsctory 500k. Keeps doing wheelies.

[@rccrazy]

I normally use around 80k to 100k in the front diff. But if you want it to stop doing wheelie you would need thinner oil than 500k in the centre. Thinner oil should stop wheelie but not great for bashing because the front and rear wheels don't work together(different wheel speed)and the front wheels will balloon like crazy.

[@chrisginoc]

@@rccrazySo basically accept that the Kraton will do wheelies?

[@rccrazy]

Sorry?

[@petermccann2561]

Howdy from Texas :) Did you find the 500K too stiff? I'm planning to upgrade the servo, servo saver, and motor/esc to a HW combo. I have 80K & 1M, so I'll start with the 80K.

[@rccrazy]

Hey mate👋 So 80k in the centre diff will be far too thin, the front wheels will balloon like mad! Definitely 500k or thicker, I definitely need to swap to 1m.

[@petermccann2561]

Thanks. Arrma site says K4s v2.5 center is 100K stock. I was thinking stock weight was heavier. Maybe I should just mix some 80K w some 1M, on top of the stock fluid. This is a 0 hour truck. Maybe 2 parts 1M, to 1 part 80K, plus what 100K is in it?@@rccrazy

[@rccrazy]

Yes honestly the stock oil seems much thicker than 100k🤔 Oh well, so I would actually just top it up with the 1m oil, if you bash anything like me in some situations 1m is kinda needed. If you really don't think you'll need that thick then yeah sure mix as you please, 2 parts 1m to 1 part 80k should be similar to running 500k I would think. Let me know how it goes🙂

[@frederickgrassie3383]

My v2.5 kraton has bladders in the shocks?? Did u remove yours??

[@rccrazy]

No I did not remove the bladders, these are bladderless shocks.

[@LegendsPizzaCo]

Isnt stock weight 45wt? So you essentially doubled it?

[@rccrazy]

Not exactly sure what stock weight is but from feel yes it feels about twice the viscosity. The front I only added a tiny bit to top them up so it would have barely changed just not void at full stroke now👌 I notice the tiniest things but a void mean no oil and no oil no rebound or dampening, it was only a few mm bit I could feel they needed topping up😅🤦

[@LegendsPizzaCo]

@rccrazy pretty sure stock weight is 45wt or 500cst. What brand did you use. I cant even find any brand with 90wt

[@rccrazy]

I used TLR Team Losi Racing oil but there are hundreds of brands that produce every viscosity, 1w to 20 million weight and probably thicker. If I google 90w shock oil I get numerous results.

[@LegendsPizzaCo]

@rccrazy thanks I will keep searching. I was just giving you the results off beach rc and amain hobbies. Have a great night

[@LegendsPizzaCo]

@@rccrazy weird if you Google it amain hobbies has it but when you just search through their store this weight never popped up. Thank you agaib

[@NickMaxted]

Oops spoke to soon 😢😢

[@rccrazy]

You mean the steering?

[@pukeylukey2852]

U PUT THE REAR SHOCKS THE WRONG WAY LOL THE PRTECTORS SHOULD FACE THE FRONT

[@rccrazy]

I know, now I got guards on front and rear of the shocks😆

[@wawanzik]

Hello car batteries 2700

[@rccrazy]

??

[@wawanzik]

@@rccrazy A lot, right?

[@rccrazy]

Sorry I don't understand What is 2700?

[@wawanzik]

@@rccrazy car battery

[@rccrazy]

The battery is 4s 5200mah Again, what does 2700 refer to? If that is some sort of currency/money I use Australian dollars