Kreator "Hate Uber Alles" Review

[@Williameagleblanket]

The mighty Kreator. Been a fan since 1985. 🤘🎸🇩🇪 seen them 1991, 2005, 2006, 2011, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2017.

[@jamesgwarrior1981]

👏🏽 wow 😮 you like this new one?

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Holy shit! You've seen them a fuck ton. lol

[@Williameagleblanket]

@@jamesgwarrior1981 I listened to it tonight. Except for the intro, and the woman that added singing I liked the album.

[@Williameagleblanket]

I have lots of Kreator shirts through the years. Every single show I seen I got one. Only band I have more shirts of is Slayer. 🤘😈🎸🍺

[@Williameagleblanket]

@@AgentBeans I saw that one May 16, 1991 In Tijuana, Mexico. It was $10 to get in.

[@takodabostwick8507]

1. Pleasure to Kill 2. Extreme Aggression 3. Terrible Certainly 4. Endless Pain 5. Coma of Souls 6. Phantom Antichrist 7. Violent Revolution 8. Enemy of God 9. Gods of Violence 10. Endorama 11. Hate Uber Alles 12. Hordes of Chaos 13. Renewal 14. Cause for Conflict 15. Outcast

[@robertsparling917]

I see Shredlord sporting the O.G. Thralls of Metal t-shirt with the text "SONS OF MIDWESTERN DARKNESS" on the back! I got that t-shirt for Christmas last year.

[@jamesgwarrior1981]

🍀

[@shizzazle165]

Sons of Widwestern Darkness is probably the best quote they could have picked lol

[@spencergrady5501]

Any sign of your Arch Enemy Gwar?

[@robertsparling917]

@@spencergrady5501 The GWAR album just got reviewed this past weekend. As for Arch Enemy, that's on hold until August 12th!

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I still can't make out the band that Shred was sporting on his shirt. Probably some lame power metal band, right?

[@jboogedy]

I had a feeling Shredlord would be back for this one, cant' miss out on the mighty Kreator review!!!!

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- He was pretty excited to go over this one. We're both big fans of teutonic thrash in general.

[@shizzazle165]

Just got done jamming the record, and i was quite excited heading into this record. Kreator plays in this melodic thrash metal style and since I'm a sucker for melody, Kreator is definietly a band that I enjoy. I had listened to the singles, and thought those were all good, Midnight Sun probably being my least favorite, but I still enjoyed it. Killer of Jesus I thought was an okay song, nothing too special about it, but nothing bad, but as I progressed through the record, to me a huge chunk of the songs had that feel to them. Crush the Tyrants was alright, Become Immortal I thought was okay you know, but to me the only song that struck a chord with me outside the singles was the song "Demonic Future" I thought that song was more memorable than any of the other tracks. Also I don't know how unpopular this opinion will be, but I actually quite enjoyed the melodic quiet section in "Conquer and Destrory" with the light vocals. Especially when Mille comes in. But yeah man to me oustide of that, this record i thought was quite average, especially after 5 years since Gods of Violence. Pride Comes Before the Fall kinda rubbed me the wrong way with those clean vocals/spoken word tbh lol. Rating - 3/5 Favorite Songs - The Singles and Demonic Future and maybe Conquer and Destroy.

[@jamesgwarrior1981]

Haha nicely done. A review worthy of review ness 💪🏽🧠

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Yeah, I was pretty stoked for this one but as the album went on I found fewer songs were really doing it for me. I loved the thrashy start but Crush the Tyrants really sucked the energy out the album and it took a bit to recover. Demonic Future was a good standout and I do like the darker tinge to Dying Planet but this was just a good album. Not terrible in any facet, but it was just missing something for me.

[@TinaTaemHeavyMetalFan]

I Recently Brought 2 Kreator Hate Über Alles Albums one is a Big Vinyl Box Set and second one is Cd Album. They’re both Arriving today but really I can’t wait for them to come over to my house today on a Friday. 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- That's pretty badass. I'd love to have a poster of that sick artwork for this one especially.

[@TinaTaemHeavyMetalFan]

@@thrallsofmetal When i opened up my Kreator Box Set and i got the Cover Art print Poster which is so Cool to have with your Thrash metal Collection. 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@sleepbetraysme]

Wow. The vibe here is WAY different than almost everywhere else. I can’t believe the negativity and/or indifference to this album. It’s ALL subjective. Sami’s leads are great. Ventnor doing his thing. And hey. I love the melody & experiments.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Taste is definitely subjective but this one kinda left me wanting more. It opened so strong but it really hit cruise control too soon for me. I still think it's a good album but for me it's definitely missing the ferocity of earlier releases. Sami and Ventor do an excellent job on here though.

[@ghastlymagician3336]

I will say 2 things first. 1.) Millie's vocals are getting better with age, and he is one of the best front man in thrash music.2.) I personally prefer newer Kreator to old Kreator, the quality you get with albums like God's of Violence, and Phantom Antichrist is night and day different over there older material. With that being said, this album was extremely hit or miss for me. Took the opening self titled track, it was an absolute goddam ripper, then they followed it up with a couple tracks that were almost throwaways, then you get to "Strongest of the Strong" which is absolutely catchy as hell, only for it to pull the same thing again. And that was the theme of the album for me, I really enjoyed the tracks " Hate Uber Alles, Strongest of the Strong, Become Immortal, and Conquer and Destroy", but the rest I honestly could forget about, which is why I would give it 3.5 out of 5.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I think Mille has found a solid gear for his vocals over the years and I think he's taken good care not to damage his voice over the years as well. I'm more of an old school fan though I really do like Enemy of God and Hordes of Chaos. I like the less anthemic and more violent material but that's where I got into them and you could say they definitely have different eras of music. This one felt like a more streamlined version of Phantom Antichrist to me. It's not bad but it's really missing a lot of the bite. I like anthemic songs but there were too many that kinda felt the same. It's a good album but I was expecting a bit more from them.

[@mrmanju6989]

This album is amazing. Their 2000s plus have been amazing. Hate Uber Alles, Hordes of Chaos, Gods of Violence, Enemy of God and Violent Revolution are all amazing. They have abt 3 or 4 phases on the whole imo. Love this album

[@Gregbaltzer]

Mille has said that with every album he finds it harder to write songs, which is what probably lead to the experimentation on this album. He might have felt that he'd tapped the well dry within the limits of the Kreator sound. I love Gods of Violence, I think it's their best album since Coma of Souls. My favourite release will always be Terrible Certainty, and Flag of Hate EP. Awakening of the Gods and Flag of Hate are my two favourite songs

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I can see that and I think experimentation is a good thing for the most part but I think he got a bit hung up on one particular mode on this one. It's not a bad release but I had hoped for a bit more on this considering how much I enjoyed Gods of Violence. It's hard to say what my favorite from Kreator is (also, I can't give any spoilers if we rank them lol) but they have a ton of albums that I think are essential listening in my opinion.

[@alexperry4691]

My copy of this is arriving today and it seems to be dividing opinion based on the reviews.Personally I don't mind the experimentation,I actually enjoyed the track Midnight Sun when I heard it.Great review as always fellas,always a joy to watch ...Are you planning on reviewing the new Downset album? It's pretty badass imo

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Thanks, man! I still got a copy and I don't regret it or anything. I think it's a good album but for me it was missing something. I've noticed how divided people are on this one too. I've had people say it's their best album (big reach there for me) and people say it's one of their worst (also a huge reach). I might pick up Downset and cover it in a collection update in the future. I really wasn't impressed with the singles and I love those first two albums.

[@alexperry4691]

@@thrallsofmetal Necrotic Nick Downset just bring the nostalgia factor for me,and this new album is chock full of groove and Rey's rapping is really on point.I like the first 2 albums but Check Your People was always my favourite.

[@mojuy11]

Complete agreement. It’s very alright. I always skip their “we are strong, we are together, we are one” songs, and there are a lot of those on here. Oh well, still love em

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I don't mind the "anthemic" songs but I would have liked it more if there were less of them on here and they were spaced out a bit more. It's still a good album but it's definitely got some issues.

[@igorciric4971]

I think the album is good, it has everything and Arthur Rizk knows what he's doing, maybe I was expecting a little more, but I like the album anyway, Arthur Rizk was working on a new Soulfly album, and the first two singles are killing.💪🤘

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- That's pretty much how I feel. It's good but I was expecting more. I like that Rizk is getting a lot of high profile jobs in the metal world right now too. The dude is a solid producer.

[@igorciric4971]

@@thrallsofmetal yea, Arthur Rizk is the solid producer, i love his work with Power Trip, Cavalera Conspiracy, Go Ahead And Die, and Kreator and Soulfly..🤘

[@johnhynes8721]

Big fan of Django (1966) and The Great Silence (1968), both great Spaghetti Westerns directed by Sergio Corbucci, who was the second most well known Italian director of Spaghetti's.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Most of my Spaghetti Western experience is based around The Man with No Name trilogy which I do love so I missed the reference on the intro.

[@gofourlo]

I listened to Kreators Endorama album a few months ago and was very surprised at how far out of the box it was. Totally agree with you on this one, was lacking what I was looking for in a Kreator album. Great review .\m/ Satan is real.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Yeah, I've never been a fan. It's odd but I saw that Endorama got reissued recently too. Yeah, this one is good but it's missing a lot of the stuff I want to hear more of on a Kreator album.

[@Everthustodeadbeats]

I just checked out this album- totally agree with you guy’s rating. It’s good but it felt like there was too much going on and the guys didn’t stick to their guns as much as they should have.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Yeah, I just think if there was a balance of their older sound to this newer more anthemic sound they've been pushing more since Phantom Antichrist I probably would have liked it more. It's still a good album but it need more ferocity for me.

[@liametheridge9148]

I actually really enjoyed about 80% of this, seems like I'm in a minority so far 🤣 I really like the experimentation most of the time, although I can understand a few of the criticisms that I've seen people throw at it. My first real issue is what you implied, Crush The Tyrants is not the song to follow 2 full throttle thrash bangers. Swap it with Strongest of the Strong and I think it's a better way to gradually slow it down. They're still good songs though. The song Dying Planet honestly was the only one that really didn't click with me, which is a shame cause it's the last track. Most of the stuff worked for me so even if it's different and not what you'd expect or necessarily want from Kreator, I still enjoyed it. The nicest surprise was definitely Conquer and Destroy, I actually love that song and how they went for the more epic sound on that and yeah, the clean vocals were a huge surprise but I think they were awesome. A really good mixing of the full tilt thrash and the more old school heavy metal sound. All that being said, I still don't think any song on the album comes close to the quality of the title track, holy shit that song makes me want to spear someone straight through a fence!

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- This one seems to be quite divisive honestly. I've seen some people saying it's there best work since Coma of Souls or even their best yet (too big of a reach there for me) to saying it's just a bad album. I'm more in between. I think it's good but it definitely has some flaws. Yeah, Crush the Tyrant was a bit of dud especially coming off of 2 back to back thrashy monsters. I like Dying Planet because the mood got darker and they got away from the anthemic stuff for a bit. The title track and Killer of Jesus will definitely get more spins for me. I think those have that classic Kreator aggression that I missed on most of this album.

[@liametheridge9148]

@@thrallsofmetal haha I really really wouldn't go as far as to say it's their best since Coma of Souls. It's great but it's not that great 🤣

[@peterock4210]

You can’t dig everything. BTW the Temple of Void release is freaking addictive. Great review on that one.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Very true. Yeah, that Temple of Void is still getting a lot of spins here. Thanks again, man!

[@TheProphetJoshua]

Sounds like Kreator to me. Same quality stuff from the last 20 years. I went back and listened to Renewal this week to warm up for a new release. Those were the dark days. Be grateful they course corrected. Like the other German thrash godfathers, I don't care for the sloppy 80s stuff. They all got their shit together by the late 90s. (Though I tip a hat to Coma of Souls and Sodom's BOD & TTV).

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I think it's good but I feel like the pacing kinda hurt the album a bit and it does feel like it's lost a bit of the thrashy edge in favor of a more midtempo heavy metal feel. I'm a bigger fan of the early stuff so I tend to favor that sound.

[@FirebirdCamaro1220]

Renewal is one of their shitty 90s albums though, I jump straight from Coma Of Souls to Violent Revolution and pretend the 90s stuff doesn't exist

[@yeeyee1690]

Im not into the caveman sounding 80s albums like first couple sodom and kreator albums but agent orange and extreme aggression are amazing albums.

[@jamesgwarrior1981]

You think this title has anything to do with the Dead Kennedy’s? “Californi! Uber Alles!!”

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Uh, might just be a German thing this time. lol

[@jamesgwarrior1981]

@@thrallsofmetal 😄

[@marcreews8388]

Great review, good album, i was expecting more faster riffs and old school Kreator, but good album.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Thanks, man! Yeah, after that explosive start it really stuck to the midtempo for most of the album. I could have used some more thrashy material and some less repetitive choruses too. Still, it was a good album.

[@dylanmaxwell6697]

About half of the tracks I'd be fine never hearing again. But the other half was pretty damn enjoyable. Dying Planet had some of the grit and darkness I wish was more on the rest of the album. Strongest of the Strong and Conquer and Destroy were a little corny but I like the triumphant sound. Songs like Crush the Tyrants, Become Immortal, Midnight Sun, Pride were kinda dull though. I'm not familiar with most of their discography but I jammed Gods of Violence a ton and I think that one is better than this. It has higher highs and not as low of lows. Lead guitar work also seemed more impactful. It was a huge release day for music today! Interested to see what you will cover. Inanimate Existence, Soreption, Kardashev, Seventh Wonder. All stellar releases. Plus some I have yet to hear.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I liked more than half of them but the ones I didn't care for as much I probably won't return to as much. I could have used more of the dark vibe that was on Dying Planet or that aggressive punch of Killer of Jesus and the title track. They got a bit stuck on the anthems on this one I think and I agree that Gods of Violence is definitely a stronger album overall. We have White Ward going up tomorrow and you do have one other that we covered but I'm not going to spoil the surprise. lol

[@metalneanderthal]

Interesting. I don’t know guys after the last two Kreator albums, this one blew my head off. They ditched the Euro power metal vibe and brought back the crunch. This could have definitely been a follow up from Enemy of God. This album was definitely a big surprise to me. It’s so far in my top 5 of the year.

[@sleepbetraysme]

Same. I agree with your comment 💯

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Honestly, this one feel really similar to Phantom Antichrist which definitely packed an anthemic punch as well but I think might have done it better. I think this is a good album but it's missing a lot of their former ferocity. For me there needs to be more of a focus on their thrashier side rather than the heavy metal anthemic side. That's just me though.

[@sleepbetraysme]

@@thrallsofmetal funny you used the PA correlation. I did too with my friends. Im not full-throttled extreme metal. Maybe that’s why, especially, the older heads are digging this. The 45 and over crowd usually has a more diverse metal palette. I find. I Don’t really dig in to any one sub-genre or realm too deeply. Just deep enough in a shitload of sub genres. Except glam. Fuck that. lol Kreator is branching out here. Much like TOV. Creatively. Not mainstream. Nowhere near. But enough flair/flavour/experimentation to maybe reach a wider audience. And I go back to Extreme Aggression. My boys/me saw them with DRI in high school. All good. 🤘 Maybe I’m more open minded as an Older geezer. 😆

[@Metalton95]

"Dicthed the Euro power metal vibe" -Crush the Tyrants (slow Hammerfall) -Strongest of the Strong (mid-tempo Arch Enemy) -Become Immortal (any Nuclear Blast power metal band) -Pride Comes Before the Fall (makes me think of Nightwish with double bass and actual riffs) Did I misunderstand something?

[@metalneanderthal]

@@Metalton95 yes, I don’t know man, I was just giving my take. But thanks for the music lesson.

[@michalisveliziotis615]

I have not listened to this yet apart from the singles. But I want to say something that I was thinking while I was listening Strongest of the Strong for the tenth time in a row: we need such songs, we need these heavy/thrash melodic anthems, these choruses, these melodies. We need this catchiness, this is a part of what we love in this music. And Kreator have proved over and over again that can offer that.

[@sleepbetraysme]

I’m in YOUR camp. 😎🤘

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I thought Strongest of the Strong was a pretty solid as a stand out but I feel like that tried to replicate that anthemic vibe too much on this one. The melodies are solid but the repetitive, shout the song title choruses kinda dulled the impact of some of the anthems.

[@michalisveliziotis615]

I can see that Nick and it is a fair point (now I am listening to the full album). Still, there is much nice stuff in here as you are saying, and some quite interesting - in a good way for me - experimentations.

[@sleepbetraysme]

TOV & Kreator in a week. Both of these are two of my favourites of the year. Both, epitomise & carry the torch for their respective sub/genres in a BIG way. That? Is priceless. 🔥🤘 Everyone i know loves this record. Many, think it’s one of their best. 4.5/5

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I think it's a good album but calling it one of their best is a bit too strong for my blood especially considering their back catalog. That's just me though.

[@paulseidler1644]

I already know that nothing they do will touch those first 5 albums (my favorite all time metal), but I can also accept that is a separate era. I still find plenty to like from their recent material, and hate über alles is probably my favorite of their millennial releases.

[@sleepbetraysme]

@@paulseidler1644 yep. They ‘evolved’ if ever so slightly. Mille Is 55-56 years old. Objective is the key. This isn’t Metallica doing the Black album. It’s Kreator doing Kreator things. With flair. Most of my buddies? Will have it in their top10. But we listen to far more than extreme metal. I love The TOM guys. But they DO know their wheelhouse. It’s mostly extreme metal. Which Kreator is. But I grew up on classic metal. And this album pays a little homage to that era. On a site geared more toward ALL metal? This is a winner. I have it middle of the pack. 7/8. Certainly not top 5. Those early albums are untouchable. No Ripping Corpse here. All good!

[@soulSSeekingbullet]

It's not OG " Pleasure to kill " but it's not half bad.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- It's hard to compare this to any of the earlier material but this was still good.

[@Mark.13.]

I love that song Midnight sun with pop singer, it's 10/10 for me, whole album is 8/10 I dig it.

[@magellan1000]

I’m really enjoying Hate Uber Alles! The split of 1/2 the album being really thrashy bangers and the other 1/2 being different styles of songs really makes the album a fresh listen that doesn’t feel repetitive at all. Although you guys made a good point about the anthemic songs just repeating the song titles w/gang vocals, I didn’t mind since they’re fun tunes. I even really like Midnight Sun. Despite the vocal layering being weird I feel like the song still works. Good review guys, even if I did like the album a bit more than you two did.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick-Thanks. man! I don't know if it's split like that for me. It seems like it favors more of the experimental/ anthemic heavy metal vibe on most of the album. There's still some good thrashy bangers on there though but the way the album is paced I found there to be a bit of a lull starting with Crush the Tyrant. Again, it's a good album but I just have some issue with it.

[@user-fq7rt3pb6u]

I wish it sounded like the album art…That’s some seriously badass album art…And I liked the slasher analogy.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Eliran Cantor killed again on the art. I love pretty much every cover he's done here lately. Yeah, Shred threw out a good analogy with the slasher reference. lol

[@KevinOrtega1980]

Got done listening to my copy an hour ago. I thought it consistent as far as riffing goes. Experimental indeed. I thought the first couple songs were crushers as well and then it sorta spiraled and it took a bit for me to get interest again at the end. Overall, it’s ok but at least not a dud whatsoever. Good to try and get back on here. Kids are keeping me busy 😂

[@bogdankaciric7155]

Solid album, when you listen a few times, its better, i love Arthur Rizk as producer, and i love his work with Power Trip, Cavalera Conspiracy, Go Ahead And Die, and i heard 2 singls from new Soulfly album, amazing and killer songs, by the way great review 💪🤘

[@thelegionary07]

I actually didn’t like the drum production on this.. The kick and snare are too thuddy.. I personally think Jens did a much better job for Kreator

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I've given it a few more spins and I'm still in about the same spot. I think it's a good album but it's hard for me not to compare it previous releases that I'm a bigger fan of. Rizk is a badass producer and it's great hearing him get more high profile gigs in metal now. The singles form the new Soulfly have sounded killer so far.

[@heathertiller3644]

Goddamn fellas, i couldn’t disagree more! This is coming from a 49 yr old die hard Kreator fan. Is this POTF or EA?? Maybe not but I don’t expect bands that have been around as long as Kreator has, to make thrashterpieces like those, ever again. That was a moment in time that I’m damn sure I got to enjoy but this new cd is fucking smoking. Def better than GOV and right up there with PA for me!!! I have noticed opinions seem to be split down the middle for this though. Some will never be able to handle the added melody element in new Kreator but like I said, I’m not expecting to hear Endless Pain part 2, in 2022. Thanks for the review even though you’re both wrong! Lol

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Yeah, I think this is just good but they've definitely done better. It started off viciously but it kinda got stuck in cruise control too soon for me and those interchangeable, repetitive choruses really didn't do much to lift up the songs for me. I would have liked something a bit more balance because this kinda went for one theme throughout most of this. Still, I liked it but part of it missed the mark for me.

[@hotwingkilla6134]

I've been listening to this on the way to work for a few days...it's a good driving record. Bangertv kinda pooped on it and Decibel magazine gave it a 9...you guys are correct that music is subjective.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- yeah, I've seen reviews all over the place on this one. Some people think it's one of their best, others say it's one of their worst and there's a lot of people like us where we were like "it's pretty good, but they've done better". I just wish there was more of that classic thrashy stuff on it honestly.

[@Netherghoul]

Love every song. Great Album. I think it may be better than Phantom Antichrist. I need to think about it though. Ive listened to the album multiple times today. God damn I love it.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I think it's a good album but for me it's missing something for me.

[@benng4376]

Kool.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Kreative Komment. lol

[@benng4376]

@@thrallsofmetal K. Thanks.

[@michaelfishman9555]

I have to listen to it a little more it sounds good.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- It's definitely worth a listen for sure.

[@MRSludgedude]

How did everybody like that new decapitated? It reminded me of organic H.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I still need to play catch up with that one honestly. I'll get there.

[@stevenvalenti3722]

I totally agree with you two about the new album. I believe there's a few great tracks on the album and most of the others are good. but I don't care for Midnight sun at all except for the guitar riff. But that girls vocals and symphony style arrangements just threw me off. In my opinion it is the worst song on the album and that song basically shocked me being a very long time KREATOR fan. Great review guys.🤘🍺

[@keng.2468]

After one listen I felt this was just okay. There are some thrashy songs and definitely some non-thrashers that feel like the band is dipping back into the Endorama era. Mille though, has always had this penchant for experimentation, so it doesn't surprise me here. I do agree with you both about the album flow and how that hurts the presentation a bit. Overall though, I give this a three out of five as well. I've been listening to Kreator since the mid 80's and it's amazing how fresh they can sound 15 albums into their career!

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Yeah, I've gone back to it a few more times and I'm still in the same spot here. It has some really killer songs but it's really missing a lot of the thrashy bite and the pacing isn't very good. I think Mille just got caught up in the anthemic vibe on this and kinda dry humped it a bit too much. Still, I didn't think any of this was bad but it definitely needed a bit more variety and some more of that old school crunch mixed in.

[@glts8146]

I agree with a lot of your points, but I will say this album sat better with me just because I thought gods of violence was really bad lmao. There’s nothing on that album I return to, yet here at least I return to the title track and killer of Jesus. Not a great album, definitely a little too cheesy, but a slight improvement

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I actually like Gods of Violence more. They both kinda suffer from the same issues but I thought Gods of Violence had more intensity to it while this one really got stuck on the anthemic gear. This one does have it's moments though.

[@thomascheesman7676]

Meh.... I think its their best.... Its about time they didn't just go fast.... Everway.... I respect your opinion....

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Man, that is a spicey take considering their discography but I respect your stance. I think this one is good but my expectations were higher.

[@w-james9277]

I honestly class post 2000's Kreator as a melodic death metal band. To me their music sounds more like Arch Enemy than Sodom.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- It definitely has a lot of those elements but at the same time I think albums like Enemy of God and Hordes of Chaos are still more on the thrash spectrum. I think they really started laying on the melodeath vibe was on Phantom Antichrist through to this one. I still like it but I want the thrash to take back over.

[@vikingraven4156]

Agree with 3/5

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Yeah, it's a good album but it's just not great. Nothing wrong with a good album though.

[@balazskalman-og6du]

Kreator albums ranked

[@Ren_Ezon]

Easy solution for the Kreator current problem: Fire Sami Yli-Sirniö. He just does not fit there. He never has.

[@Metalton95]

If Kreator got rid of the three-punch mid-tempo sleepers (Crush the Tyrants, Strongest of the Strong, and Become Immortal) the pace of the album would be so much better - albeit I dig Strongest of the Strong, but it's sandwiched between 2 ultra boring songs. Dying Planet though, what a fucking song - and that 'death metal' tremolo riff goes so well with Mille's vocals!

[@CWB1863]

Nice shirt Nick...Fuckin Enforced!!! \M/

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Thanks, man! Fuckin' loave that band!

[@spencergrady5501]

They'll never top Terrible Certainty or the Flag of Hate EP. But then, do they have to?

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- They have a lot of killer album I love Terrible Certainty but Extreme Aggression is amazing as well and Enemy of God was pretty killer too. Honestly, they have so many killer albums that I doubt they really need to top anything at this point.

[@wc1994]

I really like Violent Revolution, Enemy of God and Phantom Antichrist as far as the modern era.I think Kreator is just going through the motions now. Not impressed...

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- This one is decent but I feel like they got stuck in one mode too much on here and left a lot to be desired from their older fans. I liked the last few but I really enjoy the older material personally. That's just me though.

[@joshalan5125]

So far, I'm liking it but I need to give it a few more listens. I thought there were some pretty strong tracks but also some really weak ones like Dying Planet. My first impressions are good but not as good as Gods of Violence.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I think it's good but it's missing that old Kreator sound on a fair amount of it. While I like the experimentation I feel like they needed some more aggressive track on here to keep it a bit more rooted in their familiar sound. Surprisingly Dying Planet was a standout for me. I liked the darker sound and the more doomy atmosphere. I may have just been tired of all the anthems though. Yeah, I liked Gods of Violence more but I still think this is good though.

[@joshalan5125]

@@thrallsofmetal Yeah I listened to it again today I agree that all in all, its a decent metal album but I expected more from the biggest name in German thrash after a 5 year gap from their last album. I wouldn't say its one of their weakest albums but its certaintly not one of their strongest either.

[@bschuler6216]

Not excited about this at all. I haven't played my copy of Gods Of Violence once in at least two years. I thought that album was all over the place. I did love Phantom Antichrist & Enemy Of God though. And I do dig tf outta Kreator. The new direction is fine, but (like modern Over Kill) ain't really my bag.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I liked Gods of Violence but Phantom Antichrist was kinda of a mixed bag for me. Enemy of God and Hordes of Chaos honestly were more my style. I prefer Kreator more on the aggressive side overall. This one is good but I think it got too hung up on trying to be anthemic all the time for me.

[@angelarandall4004]

I agree with them about this one ther opinion on this subject is very good

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Thanks!

[@sadekx5251]

I wasn't expecting "Pleasure To Kill" or "Coma Of Souls" but that was a big disappointment. Fells like a rehashed of the last 4-5 albums with really lame new stuff like the female vox. Sami is still killing it in terms of solos but I like him much better in Waltari.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- It wasn't a huge disappointment but it definitely left a bit to be desired. I just want a bit more aggression and less anthemic stuff with "shout the song title" choruses honestly. I liked Gods of Violence but this one doesn't pack the same punch.

[@kapriizais8278]

Besides the cheesy chick parts, sounds like what i expect them to sound, decent overall

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Yeah, I always have my hopes up that they'll bring more of their old school sound back but this was pretty good.

[@mazeoftorment805]

Good album but needs more thrash and less mid passed tracks. Gods of violence is still my favorite 2000s album by them.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- 100% with you there, man. It opened up furiously and then just rode the midtempo stuff for too long. I needed more aggression and less anthems this time around. Gods of Violence was definitely a stronger album overall for me.

[@tomasjonsson7141]

Kreator is the best trash band =)

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Man, that's a tough call. I do love them though.

[@DashieNegan41]

It's a great record same with Soreption and DeathWhite damn good albums this week well except for Motionless in White that album was sh.t 4/5 Become Immortal 🤘

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I thought it was good but not as good as it could have been. That's just me though. I'm looking forward to jamming that new Deathwhite. l loved their last one.

[@KiwiDimi]

Lost them after horde of chaos...

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I still enjoy the newer stuff but this one is just a good album which they have lots of.

[@alexflorez9012]

I feel like on this album someone tore out Kreator’s canines and threw away their aggression. I’m not a big fan of Hordes of Chaos and everything up to now and I’d say mostly because of their choruses. I hate their choruses at this point they all sound the same and it’s just repeating the song titles over and over. To me the album periodically teases you and constantly disappoints or it’s boring and cringy. Unfortunately I’ll give it a 2/5.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- The aggression is still there on some of the tracks but there's not enough of it across the album. To be fair, their choruses have always been hit or miss with me but they become really exposed when the material surrounding them isn't as good as it has been. I like this album but they've done a lot better before.

[@Longlivedolphnigga]

It’s almost like they keep forcing random melodic riffs into it. I haven’t really enjoyed a kreator album in years now.

[@Wiseheimer100]

This kreator album i don't know its weird. Im not feeling it. I got bored listen to it

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- It's a good one but it's definitely got it's issues. It's a bit too midtempo for them I think.

[@ДенисКондратьев-у9ъ]

Britney Spears got married!

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- Cool... right?

[@Hellenicheavymetal]

2/5. There were a few decent songs..

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I liked it more than that but it really wasn't the follow to Gods of Violence that I was looking forward to.

[@biorythmicshifter]

Unfortunately I lost interest after Endorama. Terrible Certainty is my favorite followed by Extreme Aggression, I even love Renewal. I guess it’s when the melodic approach started to take root I started losing interest. The power metal bombast of some of the choruses are pure cheese to me. His voice has really lost it’s appeal to me as well. It’s a shame because they obviously work hard on what they do so I wish them continued success…

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I pretty much skipped Endorama and Outcast altogether and picked back up at Violent Revolution and Enemy of God but I'm bigger on the early material. I like melody in metal but this kinda just got stuck in one particular gear when it came down to the melodies. Not every song needs to be an anthemic song. I needed some more angry ones on this one personally. Still, it's a good album and it hasn't dulled my love of Kreator in the least.

[@ΔημήτρηςΛάρδης]

This ain't Kreator... I don't now what the fuck this is... Mix of Judas Priest, Manowar and Tribulation and not in a good way... Really full of fillers... O.K. now you can throw shit on me!

[@BlackDeathThrash]

This is the worst Kreator album in a LONG time.

[@thrallsofmetal]

Necrotic Nick- I don't know about that. It's not one the level of bad like Endorama or Outcast but it's no where near their classics so I'd say it's more mid tier for me.