You know you're badass when your tach starts at 8000 rpms.
@BasVossen6 жыл бұрын
Bring back the 50cc world championship class!! So much history, and no need for idiot amounts of money.
@RCScaleAirplanes5 жыл бұрын
I remember when 7 classes raced on Sunday. 50, 125, 250, 350, 500, sidecar "A" and sidecar "B" That was awesome.
@101stuey4 жыл бұрын
@@RCScaleAirplanes 8Occ also
@r1273m4 жыл бұрын
Ernst Degner.
@robertrishel36854 жыл бұрын
So true! I hate to see all the classes disappear! It was so much easier to participate then, so much more accessible and wasaaay more interesting!
@keithdawson48044 жыл бұрын
@@101stuey 80cc REPLACED the 50cc class
@kuks39607 жыл бұрын
Not any dumb scooter can surpass a real Kreidler van Veen. Shifting gears at 14.000 RPM gave me chills. Great work. Greatings from the Netherlands.
@remyassier17584 жыл бұрын
Great
@laffytaffy14174 жыл бұрын
my only thoughts if you pay for a 18 k Speedo why you dont use it ? P.s my dumb scooter made 15.5k
@kuks39604 жыл бұрын
@@laffytaffy1417 No need for it. You won't get more torque. It would be just RPM waste.
@laffytaffy14174 жыл бұрын
@@kuks3960 depends on engine and "steuerzeiten" and on your exhaust layout on a 2 stroke and by the way if you maybe get more knowledge from watching yt videos you will learn that a 2 stroke rlly depends not on torque :D its horsepower and revs I rebuild tune and destroy couple 2 stroke 50-125cc i was on scooter drag racing .... i had scooters with 20 hp + on the weel . so dont tell my anything about 2 strokes .
@kuks39604 жыл бұрын
@@laffytaffy1417 Dude, I'm talking about this machine only, not 2 stroke in general. If this thing constantly would make 18k it won't last many races, it's perfect adjusted for the tracks.
@arndschockemohle1478 Жыл бұрын
Wie das Ding ab 10.000 erst so langsam "kommt" um dann ab 12.000 endgültig mal langsam Drehmoment und Leistung aufzubauen: Einfach herrlich.
@DoubleD_832 жыл бұрын
Dutch Engineering by Van Veen. Makes me a little bit proud to be Dutch.
@RemySSpeedshop594 жыл бұрын
La magie des 2T d'époque quelle machine !!!!! Superbe moment !
@johna69685 жыл бұрын
You know someone means business when there tach starts @ 8k rpm.
@juanpindonga4055 жыл бұрын
And typically over more 10 gear speeds, that guys at Kreidler played a very hard game: going fast with a 50 CC. not, for kids surely.
@paulalexander6335 жыл бұрын
oh...thought it wasn't working 'till I had a better look.
@juanpindonga4055 жыл бұрын
@@paulalexander633 should be that way; but this is a Kreidler :)
@r1273m4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I remember back in the 1960's there was a 50cc class at the Isle of Man TT. I think the Kreidler had a 12 speed gearbox. Just remember to keep your hand over the clutch lever...……..
@DoubleD_832 жыл бұрын
@r1273m . You mean in case the engine would seizes up. And safe yourself by pulling the clutch-lever.(on-time) Before the backweel starts locking-up. You have to be fast as lighting. I know this from 2-stroke experience. Anyways hope you can confirm this. Cheers and Greets from Holland. 👍🏼
@davecooper32382 жыл бұрын
In 1964 my mate & stood at Brandish as the 50s swept down from The Creg. They approached that quickly we at first thought that they had swopped the 500 TT to the morning.
@pierrelasvaladas92795 жыл бұрын
Impressionnant ce Kreidler !! J'adore les deux temps.
@easyfishing19365 жыл бұрын
Wow but every time that Rev counter dropped below 11000 rpm I was urging the rider to stir that gearbox and keep it in the powerband and found my head tilting over round the circuit. I noticed that as the riders confidence increased he was definately getting quicker. I loved it!!!
@kevinwildash57265 жыл бұрын
Yes, it would be nice to see what it could do if he kept it in the power band all the time.
@AnthonyDonnellyTT5 жыл бұрын
@@kevinwildash5726 For sure... 11,800-14,000 by the looks of it... yummy motor.
@dny93944 жыл бұрын
Agree, the more he reved the quicker he got... got to thrash a 2T...power is all up top.
@dny93944 жыл бұрын
@@kevinwildash5726 he would have been well in the mix....bike was capable
@derf94656 жыл бұрын
Miss two stroke bikes, people today have never experienced them. Some think they are strimmers. I've left so many tailgaters behind in a blue haze. I'd love to see the Clarksons behind the wheel expressions when I take off.
@perrosdemaiz7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Looking very smooth. The motor sounds good.
@mino73T115 жыл бұрын
Really nice. This is more driving rather than finding a way to put excess power on the ground. Thumbs up!
@9736grunn4 жыл бұрын
This thing whas from a another world back in the day. 😍love the van veen !!!
@pauldt22987 жыл бұрын
Super ! Je me suis délecté !!! Paul (Garelli 50 Super Sport en 1961 et ... toujours motard)
@isrowfr254 жыл бұрын
ça me rappelle la course de cote Sancey le Grand ... Dans les années1976 ( ?? ) y en avait qlq unes qui montaient ... c est ce qui m avait impressionné le+ ... le bruit de ces ptites machines ... comme des abeilles ... lol .. merci pour ta video ...
@ThePiaggionino5 жыл бұрын
Trennen in den Augen,sol schöööön...,Van Veen drehzahl super,Temperatur unglaublich?? Oder nicht angeschlossen?Hatte damals 1970 eine GILERA Trail Luft gekühlt 22Delorto ,Auspuff selbst gestrickt,gut über setzt...das waren noch Motoren ,schöner massiver Motor Block ,große Kühlrippen ,Italia Temperament. ca.130kmh. Ein Freund hatte diese Fantic Straßenversion? Ich schwöre 165 kmh ,nach einer Testfahrt schlotterten mir die Knie,das Teil schrie in jedem Gang auf und zog wegg ,wie eine Fuhrie...unglaublich.All meine Freunde damals,Herkules, Zündapp, Sachs,Kreidler,Garelli,Beta,Malaguti, Fantic.,ectr ....Ein Traum von Motoren,individuelle Technik ,für jeden etwas dabei.Das war noch mehr als Mopedfahren das war ein Lebensgefühl.Nicht dieser einheits Brei an Am6 ,und seine Chinesischen copyen. Sehr schade. Die Jungs von heute fahren ja nur mehr Roller????
@a.drenalin4 жыл бұрын
Good old kreidler Van veen lives for ever
@peterjans92369 күн бұрын
In early 1972 a red Honda SS 50 was a birthday gift, because of it's 4Stroke sound. A chainsaw was unthinkable! But what happened? All of my Kreidler RS riding friends drove circles around me, waiting smoking at the next meeting point. 😢
@robertrishel36854 жыл бұрын
Talk about learning how to conserve momentum! Brilliant!!! Ever since the demise of two-strokes in racing (Road and MX) the world has gone down a darker, more evil path. It’s just true!
@keithdawson48044 жыл бұрын
Darker, but LESS evil path. ;)
@vincenzodimalta15935 жыл бұрын
....spettacolo...spettacolo...sapore d'altri tempi andati che non tornano...spettacolo!!!
@resomony5 жыл бұрын
50CC!!!------Golly!---the nice salesman at the motorcycle dealer said for my first bike I shouldn't buy anything less than 750cc! D'ja think he's tryin t' mislead me?
@alfredkillian36564 жыл бұрын
resomony lol
@Mediamarked Жыл бұрын
I guess he didn't carry heavily modified Kreidler mopeds.
@chagandomrodnoi Жыл бұрын
Представьте 750 кубов 2 такта в параллельной реальности.
@phildanh6216 жыл бұрын
Quel beau circuit et belle musique
@sircharles73232 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful race track, amazing!!!
@ichbins11333 күн бұрын
Macht einfach Spaß mit so kleinen motoren. Deshalb uberleg ich mir eine zx4 rr zu kaufen. Schade das es die zx 25 rr nicht in Europa gibt. Wer braucht mehr
@nicolasbiette55734 жыл бұрын
Magnifique, et quelle musique !!!! C'était quand même bien le 2t...
@dilwyn15 жыл бұрын
Love this !!!! Lots of red faced 250/350/500cc riders harassed by this "Damn Wasp" that won't go away!!!
@ariari41334 жыл бұрын
14.000 t/pm redicule
@phprokus95152 жыл бұрын
Ça me rappel 1973 la Kreidler 50cc, une super machine 😎✌
@Gruetzo16 жыл бұрын
Absolut faszinierendes Motorrad, tolles Video!!!
@alainl14 Жыл бұрын
Quelle santé ce moteur ! 👍
@z-tech-extrem Жыл бұрын
wow I love that sound!
@wobbers994 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. I didn't mind it was 50cc! Samson and Goliath!
@nino19544 жыл бұрын
Stunning sound!
@jurgenschneller8478 Жыл бұрын
The moment, when motorcycling becomes to art!
@markohoffmann83462 жыл бұрын
Eine richtig, tolle Rennsemmel!!! 👍👏✌️
@fredericaugier50685 жыл бұрын
Mon rêve d’ado !!! Merci.
@RCScaleAirplanes5 жыл бұрын
*Nice riding !* The temperature didn't reach the optimal quote. _May I ask which track it was?_
@wardeadfr5 жыл бұрын
it's the circuit of Pau Arnos just few kilometers from the town of Pau in France en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_Pau-Arnos
@RCScaleAirplanes5 жыл бұрын
@@wardeadfr _Thank you very much for your fast response._ 👍😎
@eduardoben71064 жыл бұрын
excelente trabajo Saludos desde Argentina
@watchyMCFCwatchy7 ай бұрын
Can you imagine how well a 50cc four stroke would go on the same track?
@heinz-dieterkuroda26586 жыл бұрын
Wahnsinn,...... der Drehzahlmesser fängt bei 8000 U/min.erst mal an !!!!! Van Veens Kreidler waren die grössten !
@BobJones-cr1pl6 жыл бұрын
Heinz-Dieter Kuroda Genau........Kreidler ist am besten.
@BobJones-cr1pl6 жыл бұрын
Heinz-Dieter Kuroda Pardon my poor German , but you said exactly what I thought when I first saw this video, you have to love drehzahlmessers that begin at 8000. I lived and worked in Germany many years ago and always admired the Kreidlers. Wunderbar motorrad.
@derbie53665 жыл бұрын
On parle d'un 50cc pas d'un engin à 10 000 euro
@jansolo555 жыл бұрын
Incroyable, ce truc !! Pour un peu il damerait le pion aux gros cubes dans les coins !!! Heinz Dieter K. : und nur mit einem Zylinder ... Braucht kein multicylinder motor !! vor Jahren hatten wir einen Kreidler Florett, 100% original und mit dem ganzen Blech gab das Ding über 85 Km/st. ohne Problem ..
@RCScaleAirplanes5 жыл бұрын
Die 50er drehten alle bis knapp an die 18.000 Van Veen war natürlich etwas besonderes, aber auch die übrigen Tuner wussten, wie man aus einem Schnapsglas anständig Power erzeugen konnte. Ich war von 1975 bis 1983 Mechaniker bei meinem Freund, welcher in der 50 und 125er Klasse DM / EM / und ein paar WM Läufe bestritt. Bin beide Klassen probeweise auf dem Hockenheimring und Salzburgring gefahren. Voll geil 👍😉
@ragsbiker7316 Жыл бұрын
Some of the comments make me laugh , he is running the bike in adter an engine rebuild thats why he takes it up and extra 100 or 200 rpm each lap and still is doing a 100mph ( 160kmh )
@oleriis-vestergaard6844 Жыл бұрын
Delikat - best sound from any engine
@oleriis-vestergaard68444 ай бұрын
In the old days the werks Kreidler had a 12 speed gearbox - the reason was that the 50cc engine only could be driven in a very narrow Field of revolutions say around 500 up in the 13000 revolutions - another problem was the problem of syncronising the 2 carburettors at 17.5 mm - yes the old Kreidler race engines had 2 valves one at either side of the engine , the later van veen engines just has 1 valve and a 28mm bing car , the only thing the old days has as an advantage was the high octane fuel with led additive - remember it well becauce it smelled very speciel .........
@babarsport2764 жыл бұрын
Dommage qu'on voie pas la bête 😍
@sugey3494 жыл бұрын
Tanks friend for share us this, is incredible how 50cc runs very fast
@stefanandersson56042 жыл бұрын
Thanks, just loved it! 💞🇸🇪✨
@christianfrison63816 ай бұрын
Superbe ..merci
@micheldufaur84807 жыл бұрын
La température ne monte pas , la sonde était deffectueuse , le reste ça va !!!!!!......... Oui des fois je cherche aussi la 6 , la 7 !!!........
@GSX1400K24 жыл бұрын
Il y en avait une à Treignat (journée de la mob) il y a quelques années. J'ai pu la filmer tournant sur place et faisant un A/R dans la rue. Ca avoine!!!
@sergueimac72944 жыл бұрын
j'avais 15 ans en 73...je te raconte pas le reste...
@nicolasbiette55734 жыл бұрын
Non,un 2 t ne monte pas aussi haut qu'1 4t Tu tournes autour de 60°c et comme il lui met pas le compte, il est au mini du mano
@undisturbednaturalworldd31023 жыл бұрын
most beautifull raceway -# THANKS !!!
@zebop9174 жыл бұрын
Judging by the number of bikes that came past, this was one of the slowest out there but it sure as hell sounded like one of the fastest!
@derf94652 жыл бұрын
Look at the engine temp its cold. Want it to seize?
@williambattaglini7201 Жыл бұрын
Walter Villa said "if you are diving a 50cc, you MUST FORGET BRAKES!"
@sergueimac72944 жыл бұрын
the best bike in all the times and in all the world 🥴
@KathrynLiz15 жыл бұрын
She really gets up on the bugle at about 13K....... awesome!
@ianoliver9168 Жыл бұрын
gotta love a small cc 2t
@Team-fabulous6 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic machine
@desmo8645 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this this is racing,, ,👍👍👍
@racingsmurffi46403 жыл бұрын
That downhill acc was sick
@caskstrength76295 жыл бұрын
They were good 👍 love the sound.
@pabloperez40635 жыл бұрын
If it had been Angel Nieto with his DERBI 50 CC...he would have passed ALL the big & bullies other bikes in this track :-)
@josemanuelgonzalez94425 жыл бұрын
Whit the magician Tombas engine jijji
@pabloperez40635 жыл бұрын
+Jose Manuel Gonzalez THE one and only PACO TOMBAS (r.i.p.)...the soul of the epic DERBI,s....!
@duncanreading64684 жыл бұрын
Where was this moped in 1978.....I had to settle for a Gerlira...
@vlastimilvlk35615 жыл бұрын
Jekot vytočeného dvoutaktu 👍 to mi naskakuje husí kůže .
@matthiasdiematzezimmerer67277 ай бұрын
Jaa krass dreht die hoch. Wie schnell wird die gehen?
@martinjuarez25084 жыл бұрын
IMPRESIONANTE!!!!!
@fredericbois6767 жыл бұрын
trop sympa :)
@bambi-wj2ol5 жыл бұрын
joli ce warm up en 50 Van Veen Michel, 15000 trmn pour un peut moins de 1,6 sur un petit circuit valloné et tortueux qui s'y prétait, domage pour la courbe sale , enfin bravo et merci.
@tomashton17816 жыл бұрын
dang talk about bringing a sharp knife to a gun fight
@cliffordchiverton12624 жыл бұрын
I remember Angel Neitto riding one of these got a chance to sit on it in the pits now I’m not a tall guy but couldn’t get my knees inside the fairing
@marcushartmann20353 жыл бұрын
First : Your Chain rattles Second : What kind of Carburator do you use? ( I can hear it almost "breathing") Third : What the fish are you feeding this Bike with? Really AWESOME Bike. Thumb is UP
@nigel9004 жыл бұрын
Well it’s clear that 50 cc’s will secure you a solid position in last place. Good show just the same.
@ianmangham4570 Жыл бұрын
If I had this in 1987 🤠💯🤟
@paoloc.78585 жыл бұрын
Top,Top,Top…grandioso
@blaster12v5 жыл бұрын
OMG .. dit is een snelle 50cc .. lijkt me dikke FUN..
@garyhuart70425 ай бұрын
Playing the gearbox like a piano
@chorinneduguet39496 жыл бұрын
Oh oh purée ???? 14000 tours minute a 153 ???..... J'ai une mauvaise vue mais c'est de ouf quand même!!!!
@Thierry.D5 жыл бұрын
BRAVO !!!
@josecarlospoggian149 Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍Spectacular!thanks to post❤
@donroger46728 жыл бұрын
mooie video ! welke camera ?
@mySelf-yx4hw4 жыл бұрын
wow, just look at the cornering speeds, no wonder GP3 is full of thrill and spills, bring back the 50cc racers
@dennismault1965 жыл бұрын
50 cc !!!!!. What a bike ! But got to keep it above 11.000 rpm. !!.
@j.r.arnolli74944 жыл бұрын
dennis mault x10=11.000😜
@getdusty17 жыл бұрын
95 MPH on a 50 CC bike?? Really??
@janhendrikfranke7 жыл бұрын
getdusty1 goes 200kph max
@franzkass56397 жыл бұрын
In 1973, Jan de Vries (Van Veen Kreidler) was recorded in Spa-Francorchamps with 204 kph, and a few years later Eugenio Lazzarini (same circuit, same machine) with >210. Awesome!
@chorinneduguet39496 жыл бұрын
Oui SPA 204 kmh ( un peu dans la descente ) de ouf tout de même
@ariari41336 жыл бұрын
getdusty1 top speed 234 k/m per uur
@ariari41336 жыл бұрын
12.000t p/m 123k/m streat rider 1972Zundapp
@wolffreebird36784 жыл бұрын
Der Kröber hat den Geist aufgegeben.
@KwakaRallye885 жыл бұрын
One more gear and you would have been all over some of them 👍
@zhanatos15 жыл бұрын
Unbeliable!
@jossmits45423 ай бұрын
Hier is maar één woord voor: super!!!
@minibikeaction42663 жыл бұрын
Keeping it on the pipe!
@desmo8645 жыл бұрын
Gotta love it👍
@andynixon28205 жыл бұрын
That's an astonishing bike . And it sounds like a mosquito .
@wolfliou36785 жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@kenmcfarland42873 жыл бұрын
Some of those boys would have got a shock if he really gave it the message lol
@zagrepcanin825 жыл бұрын
wonderful!!!!
@alancollard89395 жыл бұрын
very interesting but you need to keep it on the pipe more it looked like useable power was from 11500 to 14000, 10k and it was flat , raced itom in the 60,s nowhere as quick as this
@dny93944 жыл бұрын
There's a noticeable surge in power from early 13,000 to 14,500 which is where- being a tuned 2T - "it's at. " 12-15 % of his power resides there . Dropping to 10k or even lower means a long slow climb back to top speed. When he kept it up there at 13 to 14,000 He was well up there with the crowd. So he can ride with the best but gotta get on top of 2T, the style is different to 4T. Theres little torque to speak of so always keep it pinned , no 9,000 rpm turns, keep it boiling, stay above12,500 at all times, bends an all. Schwantz said his ambition was to ride a complete race with the throttle pinned. Good chap to follow...he rode 2Ts I believe.
@serguiopabloparreno80966 жыл бұрын
😀😀😎😎😍😍😍ke moto!!!!!!
@rommel81596 жыл бұрын
+++rommel+++ un van veen 50ccm kreidler trop sympa et itom gitane testi ok
@darringoodbrand66035 жыл бұрын
Rev counter starts of at 8,000rpm up to 18,000rpm on a 50cc lol it's a old cbr250rr I would love a shot of rev up to 21,000rpm the sound like a old f1 car lol
@christorrence1114Ай бұрын
Not bad for 3 cubic inches.
@nicolasdelhomenie4154 ай бұрын
C est une Kreidler,imaginez que c'est une 50,qui coure contre des 125cm3...sa envoie grave.
@mikevlade42214 жыл бұрын
Na , wo sind die ultras mir Schwinge ? Die war doch etwas mit zuviel swing for me .