Kris Keefer breaks down cost to qualify and race Loretta Lynn Amateur Nationals | PulpMX Show 507

[@woodman4989]

My son and I switched to trail riding and do practices at some tracks and are still having fun. I choose food over racing at this point. What's going on in the economy will kill motocross.

[@robertdootyjr2449]

Already seen it happing. last year seen a 200 youth signed up for races and in a matter of months we have seen it drop to 40 in a most of the races. Just crazy to see what inflation is doing and the cost of racing to keep everything opened

[@superfly3990]

Sleepy Joe is a Complete Disaster.

[@chuckp3131]

Drug addiction is real. Racing is the drug

[@rickrossi4468]

it was high when we were in, now it is really fucked.

[@Nielint]

Most tracks in the northwest are about: $15 per person entry fee (racing or not) $30 camping (per vehicle regardless of if you're in a honda civic camping with your family in a motorhome) $40 for practice on Fridays $40 per class per day So if I wanted to bring the family to the track to watch me race: $15x6 entry = $90 Camping = $60 (van with the bikes and car for the kids -- van can't fit everyone) Practice = $40 Racing 2 classes 2 days = $160 Not to mention most tracks are about 150miles away on average (300mi round trip) with gas so high = $150 gas give or take + a second car with better mpg = $50 Looking at $550 for a regular race weekend. Now to stay in shape and be competitive x4 = $2200/mo Not to mention all the other stuff on a race weekend. Food, drinks, gas for the bikes, bike supplies that get used, bike maintenance, etc." And my van is having troubles now with so many miles on it so I'll have to figure out how much that's going to cost. I just want to improve and be competitive in the local A classes..

[@nothaber8130]

This is why I switched to offroad racing. It's more fun imo and it's 10$ a head to park and 40$ a class. But each class gives you over an hour of ride time. Not like MX where you need to race 2 classes just to break a sweat.

[@DrtyALGreen]

I love Keefer and I'm glad he's bringing this issue to light because greed is killing the sport but Keefer is part of the problem. A guy who gets free gear and bikes who also makes fun if people don't match their helmet brand with their gear brand. Keefer complaining about the cost of racing is like a billionaire whining that gas is too high. It is true but it's hard to get around who the complaint is coming from. I know Keefer isn't rich but they both win contingency so again it's hard to feel sorry for dudes living the dream.

[@shrimpshow8538]

I owned his old kx 250 now I have Brian deegans 450 lol

[@superfly3990]

You know, and I think that I can speak for everyone, the reason for the Outrageous Cost for Amateur Motocross is very very simple. Davey "Crybaby" Coombs !

[@johnmoore5553]

Or, the fact, it’s takes a 25k 250f to be competitive in A/B mod classes

[@DrtyALGreen]

How did you get to this idiotic conclusion? It's not Davey's fault it's the bike/gear companies, local real estate investors, and corporate greed is killing racing

[@onthegasapparel7717]

It's about riding for the soul for myself. I don't need or want to go race all the time. Going to practice having fun is where it's at.

[@loganchaney5981]

ya I'm done racing.. riding for just fun now.. maybe some local races here and there but ya

[@therawlifefamily]

We went to washougal, fox, and bunker hill.

[@inventorcreator7267]

It's killing all racing!! And I've committed that if what I created goes through...I am def going to change it and the opportunities for the better!

[@hamonrye9823]

Its not killing anything

[@loganmilesMX]

Parents are to blame for Loretta Lynn's cost. It should be a qualifier to invite they make a ton of money off the fans. Steve tell us your real thoughts make waves and help the Change. You say stuff but don't elaborate, you're such a good ambassador for the sport your opinion on what kind of changes need to be looked at would be inspiring I'm sure. Good stuff yinz guys!

[@jdc8352]

End game will be the equivalent of trying to do NASCAR

[@gekcee3266]

Its a bit of a joke at LL. All the oney spent for 4 laps per race. Ive been. Its great. Unless youre 1 of the few that will actually make it, save your money and race local. Its a bit absurd to pay all of that for a max of less than an hour of track time.

[@hamonrye9823]

Your being negative

[@gekcee3266]

@@hamonrye9823 no im being realistic.99% of riders that go will never make it to the pros. These families travel all over the world to race and they get 4 laps. How much mo ey have these families spent to go? Do you even have an idea of that? How many times have you personally been to LL for racing? Its not being negative to want actual races for these kids whos parents spend a fortune to go and the clrace ends before the bike even warms up.

[@hamonrye9823]

@@gekcee3266 ppl in this world love to get out their opinions (and they have the right too) but most of the time ppl do not look at the logistics that make up a situation . Organizing events and paying people to make events runs smooth is not cheap. Tractors grooming the track are not cheap. Water on the west coast is not plentiful in some places like pala... then a company needs to make profit so they can sustain. It all comes down to fun and supply and demand . This is America 2022 alot of ppl work hard and have wealth. James Stewart was poor as fuck when he was younger but he made it. And he also had help from non factory sponsors like ken griffey junior and Barry larkin

[@hamonrye9823]

@@gekcee3266 we need to break down the entire operation to really determine the level of price gouging and from experience in the world i can tell you motocross is nothing compared to insurance or medical cost squeezing us out to oblivion

[@gekcee3266]

@@hamonrye9823 again if youve never taken a kid or yourself there racing you have no ideaof the costs. 99% of the track workers are volunteers. Meaning they work for free. I go every year and every year they add more classes while taking track time away from the riders. Believe me they make plenty of profit off the riders. They profit. This isnt an opinion, its fact from someone that has raced at, been a spectator at and brought a kid to this race. Its called 1st hand knowledge. Oh amd we arent talking about pala. We are talking about 1 specific event. Always trying to move the goal posts back when youve got no actual point

[@bartman376]

If you look at bike sales their selling way more off road bikes than motocross bikes. I quit racing 15 years ago and started trail riding and have just as much fun.

[@rickylee7657]

OMG!!!! 30 DOLLARS TO PRACTICE? . . . Hey wait a minute, isn’t it always 30 dollars for Practice, whether it’s a regional or not? Ya it is. I’ve done some regionals and they we’re pretty pricey. I just figured it was cause it’s a 4 day event. Lots of nights of camping for me to pay for , and lots of days of flaggers for the track to pay for. The 60 dollar AMA fee kinda sucked, but I assume there’s some extra work involved because of the size of the event. All in all I thought it was priced about right. Super fun too. A full 42 riders on the gate is a rush!!! Ricky Lee 555

[@ralphyoukersiii8008]

Van and the Man ®✓

[@krissantana4660]

MX Sports are greedy AF.

[@coreydamron4799]

Forgot to mention camping fee and most places charge for a pit bike sticker to ride back and forth in the pits

[@onthegasapparel7717]

It's like soul surfing.

[@shawnhorne9296]

Combs

[@rotaryjunkie9502]

My local track is $30 for practice........so........

[@rochellestanley9532]

Coombs

[@rochellestanley9532]

Crooked

[@joshuaman1126]

It is expensive

[@fixnshet5640]

what a joke for how much for families to race... i get everything costs money but its killing the sport for the working class....

[@shawnhorne9296]

Davy comes is a ffffff thief, plain and simple

[@theblevinsfamily3317]

people who own tracks will tell you. They do NOT make money. Even at the National level. So the price is not even for that much profit if any at all.

[@motox737]

They all say that, but if they weren't making money they wouldn't be doing it.

[@markallen6818]

They ain't doing for free!

[@JW-jh7zv]

Track owners are making money. Figure up practice, race, and camping fees. My local track has had over 2700 people in the gate, 1700 plus class entries to race, and no telling how much on camping & food. Do the math and tell me that how much they grossed that weekend.

[@markallen6818]

@@JW-jh7zv If they don't come down on their prices they are going to lose alot of Riders and fans.Racing is expensive enough just to buy current bikes,gear and gas.Not counting the gas it takes to get to the track and back home.