Hobie Kayak Fishing 360 VS 180 (Pros and Cons)

[@reedtower]

I have an 180 since 2017. Will be rocking for awhile. Will upgrade to the 360 when I feel it's time. Thanks for the video Kristine.

[@kristinefischer2289]

I ran the 180 for 4 years- it’s solid!!! But take my word.. once you get in the 360, you just cannot go back

[@michaelcook2725]

Love my PA 14 360, you're right about nothing else coming close! I also run a bow mount Minn Kota for those longer days on the lake. The guys at the Dugout are great! Had an issue with my 360 drive and Nick sorted me out and got a new one the next week. Love all your videos and keep up the great work!

[@kristinefischer2289]

Thanks Michael! Yea Nick is the man!

[@BASSnBEER]

I haven't been in a 360 but once, for just a couple minutes, but I did pick up a used PA14 a couple months back and absolutely love it, it's seriously crazy how much more comfortable and effective you are on the water from a Hobie...only upgrade I will ever make is a newer model or a 360!

[@ThrillbilliesFishing]

I GOT A 360 ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO AND IM READY TO SELL AND GO BACK TO 180 WITH KICK UP FINS. I HAVE HAD ISSUES A COUPLE OF TIMES AND ID RATHER HAVE A BACK-UP DRIVE AVAILABLE FOR ME. BEEN GOOD YAK JUST RATHER HAVE THE SECURITY THAT THE 180 GIVES ME

[@kristinefischer2289]

Yes I hear you- my first gen 360 (two years ago) had issues. Since that though, they’ve updated everything- the one I got late last year hasn’t had ANY 🙏🏻

[@trimbaker1893]

Right on Kristine. Your opinion is solid. I like your honest way.

[@kristinefischer2289]

I’ll always speak my honest opinions on here, and appreciate that y’all know that !

[@pernamore4224]

180 for sure. Less moving parts, less worry. Thank you for the wonderful review, be safe, tight lines!!!

[@1stsumo]

Hey Kristine, Great video as always. You always teach us. This was great honest information as you always give us to ponder. Thank you for everything you do for us... Good luck...

[@kristinefischer2289]

🙏🏻 thanks so much! Figured this one might be helpful!

[@bobbolieu9013]

I have loved a Hobi since I first saw them. The 360 unit sounds like the best of a great product

[@maxcole3930]

I recommend 360! Can't go wrong with either. Both are amazing yaks! I've been kayak fishing from a Hobie pa12 for going on 7yrs now. Last summer I upgraded to PA12 360 & I can say it's amazing & once you go 360 it's hard to go back because manuverability is absolutely unchallenged. Positioning in wind current is sooo much easier. I had same conserns about durability & Hobie had told me same thing that they had the upgraded certain parts. Your already spending some coin so save extra penny's & get the 360 you won't regret it. The 14 is awesome too but the 12 works perfectly for me. & Buy a quality kayak cart when u get your yak

[@kristinefischer2289]

YES!! I used a regular 180 the other day… and I could not BELIEVE how hard it was to get around after being in a 360 😂😂

[@maxcole3930]

@@kristinefischer2289 I haven't been in anything besides my 360 sense I got it, thankfully... It changes the way we line and hold position on spots for our casts. Which you can't do in any other yak out there. But the 180 is still a beast & next best thing! I know you run Garmin's now for a while & have 2 graph's. I'm going be getting my electronics soon. I will have 1 unit & I plan to add the Lvs34. With 1 unit would you recommend a 10 or 12" echomap ultra?? Thanks for good vid & info. Good luck at next tournament

[@cuivre2004]

Great breakdown. If I was going to add a motor, I think the 180 would be fine, considering the pedal would be more of a back-up than primary propulsion.

[@kristinefischer2289]

Exactly that’s a great addition I wish I would had added to this vid - with a motor, the 180 wouldn’t be as different as the 360

[@MBDronePhoto]

@@kristinefischer2289 Can you add a motor to an Outback?

[@johnthorpe8549]

Very nice have been looking at them for a while. Just haven't pulled the trigger yet.

[@kristinefischer2289]

Let me know when you do!

[@Mike-ew9zn]

Decide what you like and buying used is the only way to go! 😎

[@adictosalapescaconpelonher9826]

Great video 👍

[@BakerBaker1-9]

Dang KF I've not worn out my Jackson coosa yet - but I am tired of the paddle - good info . Thanks

[@chrisp7652]

Nice job Kris!

[@blackheartsmarine0351]

I have a 2019 outback and have been going back and forth on getting a PA 360. I fish a lot and anywhere I can get a yak in.

[@pinesbaby894]

Very informative video. Great job😎

[@jeremypierce1607]

I just can't believe the price jump over the last two years for Hobie across the board. I was wanting a pa12 180 to replace my 2017 OB but the $1K price jump for new in less than 2 years is just too much to swallow. Heck people are selling 2019s for more than they paid for them. Insane!

[@svtkilr]

That’s crazy I seen them Going for $4k as much as a kayak looks cool I’d rather put a down payment on a new boat lol

[@SpookyRedz]

Loved the video , I like the green one

[@briansupermag3918]

Kristine, do you know what are the differences between a late model 2021 vs. 2022 in ppa14? The place where i am about to order my P14 has upgraded drives. But is there a difference inside those kayaks that makes a difference? Just not sure if i should just get the 2022 or take the savings of a late model 2021.. I called Hobie myself and the girl said just look for a late model 2021 and you should be good to go. I don't know about what is on the inside of those 2 and maybe a difference between the two. Your thoughts Thank you

[@stephenmorgan6951]

So they fixed the cracking hull issue?

[@kristinefischer2289]

I’ve heard of a few, not sure how many, but good thing is that obviously covered by warranty! I know quality control is very high on the list over there, so I’d expect to see a lot of continued improvements

[@dawnparker2014]

Great advice. Thank you.

[@jef8528]

If you ever get to Ohio, check out Mogadore Reservoir……loaded with largemouth bass

[@kristinefischer2289]

I will for sure !!

[@jef8528]

@@kristinefischer2289 The lake is perfect for kayaking, no outboard motors allowed.

[@mikekpow4617]

@@kristinefischer2289 also a world class musky lake 20 minutes from that when you are driving by

[@donaldwatson3822]

Very knowledgeable

[@jasonpunisher8135]

Yeah with the struggle with the 360 drive doesn't justify for the price that I had to pay. Should be way cheaper for such a pain in the butt drive, especially when you're out in the water and it fails! But other than that it is very cool but not reliable every time you get on the water

[@kristinefischer2289]

The new gen, (2022 and 2023) have been bullet proof for me, thank goodness!

[@jasonpunisher8135]

@@kristinefischer2289 I'm going to try the 2023 this year. I hope I have no problems all summer like I used to with the 180 and im definitely learning less moving parts outweighs multiple issues

[@kristinefischer2289]

@@jasonpunisher8135 Definitely hear you there, and if they didnt make major adjustments to the drive and belt, I might have switched back. But its been a year and a half of the HARD use I give that drive and kayak, and so far its been good!

[@peteruveges1976]

Hi Kristine, what is the biggest muskie you ever caught?

[@brendanriggs946]

Where did you get the stands they are on?

[@prairiewolfoutdoors]

If they could make a 360 outback, I would sell my 360 PA in a heartbeat.

[@edgars00789]

Kristine I wish I could win a Hobie kayak pro angler 14 or the 180 maybe a 360 but I'm a very poor man

[@edgars00789]

I wish you could help me out to get a 360 hobie pro angler kayak but I'm a very poor man

[@paoslee]

Motor is the way to go now. I have a peddle drive and but choose the motor kayak over it. 360 or 180 is nice but once you go motor, you will not go back to a peddle drive. Thats why most kayak anglers are installing trolling motors. If you want hobie, stick to the cheapest and put a motor on it or get the oldtown autopilot that comes with a motor.

[@edgars00789]

@@paoslee the only reason I prefer the hobie pro angler kayak is because of the space to put things in it. The old Town kayak autopilot I would go with the 136 but I'm a very poor young adult man. I wish you could help me get one

[@aniketbhujbal7599]

Greetings from india 👍

[@jonyer1980]

Maybe you're not aware about the issue on 360 Pedal Drive. If you ever break the sprocket(which will happen sooner or later after many miles of use) you'll have to replace the whole spine system which is 400$, an absolute rip-off. In former models it's only 30-40$.