Krystal Ball: The Left's SELF DEFEATING Joe Rogan Take

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[@politicalflashback.880]

Rogan is neither Right completely nor Left. People like him because he is open minded.

[@gasolineandwine]

So open minded, his brain falls off sometimes

[@arpitbisht3228]

@@gasolineandwine haha the same repeating comment. Real creative 👌

[@volcrazy89]

He's clearly not open minded on the subject of cops.

[@gasolineandwine]

@@arpitbisht3228 Thank you!

[@lautaroaguilar9584]

@@gasolineandwine I don’t know if I agree with that. I think he gives both sides a tough time, as he should.

[@lautaroaguilar9584]

I think Joe Rogan represents most of us Americans that can agree and disagree with the right and the left and are not into being tied to a blind worshiping of a party; we can think and decide for ourselves.

[@MrPhats-qb2dy]

Exactly.

[@woj5924]

@Big Cheeso He should.

[@vanadyan1674]

Sadly it is not most of us, its only about 20% of us at most, maybe as little as 15%. That is an accurate depiction of Rogan and Independent Moderates though, yes.

[@serendipity6750]

@Big Cheeso hey at least you can be objective that way.

[@richardthompson5436]

Most people are more complex than right or left, but those firmly on the right or left , do not want to admit it.

[@rudistorm3348]

We need more talking heads like Rogan. He calls out both parties when they are wrong. People don't like to admit that both parties SUCK, they only argue over which Sucks more.

[@curmidgeon8]

This I totally agree with💯

[@justinkashtock333]

That's why I was all-in on Tulsi, despite being (if I HAD to label myself) a largely right leaning centrist with libertarian tendencies. I don't ask for much from a politician, but honesty is paramount, and if you can't be honest enough to call people on your own side out if they do some shady business and instead circle the wagons and excuse bad behavior, I want nothing to do with you. You don't have to "cancel" them even, just call things straight: right is right and wrong is wrong. I think Bernie has terrible ideas, but I still liked him in the 2016 primaries because he was up against 2 horrific liars; and in 2020, my focus shifted to Tulsi because her ideas were decidedly less bad than Bernie's.

[@curmidgeon8]

@Vegas Gal fun fact: Nobody asked you

[@rustypipes6339]

We also need more talking heads like Krystal and Saager. These folks are honest and if they have an axe to grind, it surely isn't apparent to me.

[@Protectobot]

Peoples’ Party with Nick Brana! A progressive THIRD party alternative to the 2 moronic, corporatist parties! 😀

[@paulanderson6805]

I was politically homeless. Until I found Krystal and Saagar. Thank god for you both. Keep it up

[@chanb9040]

Nobody gives a shit

[@williamschneider3698]

@@chanb9040 don’t be a douche

[@firefly9838]

@@chanb9040 If you didn’t give a shit why take the time to even comment. Obviously you care to a degree to set time aside to leave a smart ass remark. Therefore your theory that nobody cares is technically wrong. Sorry bud.

[@chanb9040]

@@firefly9838 faulty logic there. I care about letting them know that nobody cares, not about the content of the post itself. Try to not be as stupid.

[@firefly9838]

@@chanb9040 you caring still means you giving a shit here in the English language. Unfortunately you weren’t that specific in your original negative post so my logic actually does kinda apply. Sorry not sorry.

[@msriram9884]

Joe Rogan is a sensible and sane person. He conducts interviews with curiosity and courtesy. He represents the average American more than anyone in the main stream media

[@hughjass1044]

And THAT is.... really... why the elites hate him.

[@andywomack3414]

It's how we would like to see ourselves.

[@ChiefRepublic]

He's literally a hollywood millionaire elite who has no idea what the average person goes through but go off weirdo

[@alwayslernin4400]

Friendly, YES!

[@calebswanson3317]

@@ChiefRepublic yeah he wasn't broke and an average person for decades before he was famous, he didn't just get born famous.

[@JackThor]

I like the bar thing on the bottom better than on the left

[@jasondoolin6476]

Agreed

[@lautaroaguilar9584]

Hmm. I’m 50/50 on it.

[@lautaroaguilar9584]

I take it back. The bottom bar is better. 👍🏿

[@halfeatenwaffle3]

You can see the decor they chose behind them with the bar on the bottom

[@kpkost]

100%

[@mp00293]

This Breaking Point is just so..... On point. "Left wing" MSM has had a hard on to get Rogan after he didn't bow down to queen Clinton.

[@Flipmode1900]

Think it has more to do with him having that Vile, hate spewing, dead child mocking, Alex Jones, on regularly

[@Matt-ro7cb]

Why is left wing in quotation marks ?

[@mouse6210]

@@Flipmode1900 You come across as so serious.

[@Wraiven22]

@@Matt-ro7cb because the mainstream media is only "left wing" on the surface when it comes to identity stuff that is meaningless and then shit on stuff when it comes to actual leftist values like higher wages, universal Healthcare, ending lobbying, etc. MSM still support endless wars, wall street, the big banks, big tech, etc. all of which are right wing. Conservatives constantly call big corporations (and the establishment Democrats) leftist and the irony is palpable; big corporations fight any real progressive changes on any topics that actually matter, ones that might actually affect their corrupt wallets. The entire premise of letting giant corrupt private industries screw over regular people is the ANTITHESIS of leftist values.

[@Matt-ro7cb]

@@Wraiven22 you said left wing not leftist. You don’t get to define words that fit your world view , that’s not how this works. A small minority of people see the world through your racial leftist lense. The media in all facets besides Fox News is left wing. You can’t just label things you don’t like as right wing. Endless wars, and big tech are right wing?! In what way shape or form? You do realize majority of wars were started by left wing presidents , and big tech is right wing in what way? Every single big tech ceo is a lefty who does eveything they can to censor the right, why on earth would they do that to their own side? Your entire premise is capitalism thingy right wing, my fantasies left wing.

[@KillLoganPaul4]

The left going against Joe makes me go against them. Period.

[@justinmiller1118]

It certainly is weird the way some community of lefties just seem to irrationally hate him. It is like the hatred some right-wing Democrats feel towards Bernie Sanders or Ilhan Omar.

[@matthewbond375]

All of Joe Rogan's detractors have one thing in common: They all have a significantly smaller audience than Joe Rogan. Also, Joe doesn't tell his audience what to think. Rather, he encourages his audience to think for themselves. That couldn't be part of why he's so popular though, could it?

[@MrFrame1979]

@Zangief ☭ if you don’t think people in the media try to steer you in their direction, you’re dumb.

[@auspicioustoot]

@Zangief ☭ You call him stupid when obviously your reading comprehension is shit. He was pointing out the fact that most of his detractors are basically anonymous until they write a joe hit piece and he was implying that Joe doesn't tell others the "correct way" to think like a lot of journalist do lately. I broke his comment down for you since you seem to struggle so much when it comes to understanding basic English. It's either that or you had to purposely misconstrue what he was saying to make your little condescending remark. Please go back to reddit.

[@matthewbond375]

@Zangief ☭ If you can show me where Oprah had an issue with Joe, you might have a counter-point. Otherwise, you might not be understanding my meaning. I wouldn't imply that this is a deficiency on your part, but I also don't care to elaborate. Have a good day.

[@andrewlong3250]

@Zangief ☭ so the host has to actually say, “ this what you should think…” in order for you to care that they are indeed trying to control the way / what you think…am I getting that right? I think the way you express your thoughts is pointless.

[@bidhrohi12]

So Joe is basically Rush Limbaugh or Alex Jones. Having a large audience doesn't mean one is more truthful or of better quality. The Kardashians had a bigger audience in their day.

[@jenniferfisher4739]

Let's stop "pegging" people politically. We're so polarized that many Americans want to force everyone into a side.

[@emhu2594]

When one side is debating the basic human rights of minorities, I dont see any compromise with that.

[@mediatool9596]

@@emhu2594 Literally zero people are doing that.

[@deviationblue]

Yeah, only peg people with their consent. ;)

[@brocksamson7164]

@Jennifer Fisher: For these political talking heads it's always "either you're left or a racist right winger", most people I know are just like Joe Rogan who see beyond themselves but political shills are like "you have to pick a side man!". Ridiculous...

[@JayV98]

The left emphasizes human rights and freedom more. And no, liberals are not the left.

[@thn91506]

And Joe never qualifies himself as a journalist or calls his show a news show

[@jl8410]

Which begs the question: Why do they even consider this news and worth talking about? I love Joe, but anyone who follows him knows he jumps back and forth and agrees with whomever is on the show. He loved Bernie and Cornel West, and then also agreed with Dan Crenshaw that people suffering was a necessary part of a country's success... This is the shit that drives me crazy about Krystal and Saagar: They love to talk about how they focus on the important political news of the days, but they straight up fanboy over Joe Rogan and always talk about him and what he says, even if its just him endorsing Rising (when Krystal and Saagar were still there). Like you said in this comment: He never qualifies himself as a journalist or call his show a news show, nor is he a political scientist or overly informed politically, so why are they talking about it?

[@googleisevil8958]

@@jl8410 Because he has a lot of pull and is closer to what the average American is thinking then CNN or FOX. Rogan represents your average Joe who isn't paying attention to politics or might not have a clue what's going on politically but speaks his mind about a shit ton of cultural issues. Cancel Culture, China, Economy. All these things he talks about are what others are thinking but sometimes too afraid to talk about. Like when he had Alex Jones on his podcast. We all know Jones can be INSANE but he seemed much more reasonable and not crazy when he spoke on Rogan's Podcast then Schulz had him on his podcast. Fact is, he's doing something the media forgot to do a long time ago. Step out of their comfort zone and talk to the other side. The Media sides with their audience too much. Rogan actively challenge his own bias, be they left leaning or right leaning, and brings people from all walks of life onto his show.

[@fredschnerbert1238]

@@jl8410 The left loves to repress... The counterspeech doctrine posits that the proper response to negative speech is to counter it with positive expression. It derives from the theory that audiences, or recipients of the expression, can weigh for themselves the values of competing ideas and, hopefully, follow the better approach. The counterspeech doctrine is one of the most important free expression principles in First Amendment jurisprudence. Justice Brandeis: "More speech, not enforced silence"

[@Sean180morris]

Joe isn't the smartest guy, but he tries to understand everyone he interviews. He is one of the best interviewers I've ever seen.

[@jamessullivan4612]

He's pretty damn smart.

[@johndunlap3308]

Openess is actually the number one key trait linked with intelligence!

[@jmighty33zero]

He literally says that he is an idiot all the time but yet that never gets covered after he says something dumb

[@jamessullivan4612]

He is humble.

[@forexcobar7273]

He's a terrible interviewer he does no research an act stupid half the time

[@mrw417]

Joe told us his political philosophy. He's been saying it for years. Be kind to people and try to make things better and more fair. Sadly, the partisans can't find a way to monetize this.

[@jthom0027]

Partisans don't want fairness, they want the status quo which is becoming harder and harder to uphold. Because of this, power structures have to lie to the people to keep their eyes away from working towards fairness.

[@thesloppyjoes]

Very well said in the most simplist terms.

[@isthisthereallife3164]

yes it's all love and fairness until rich people have to pay taxes then it's crickets from rogan.

[@Notcleverenough]

Unless it comes to BIPOC and their culture and theologies, then rogan and his fans will sit there rolling their eyes the entire time like they know better

[@VIi726]

@@isthisthereallife3164 Rogan has stated multiple times that he would gladly pay higher taxes if he knew it was being used to actually help people

[@YaBoiRocc]

Joe is exactly that. The Average Joe. He's naturally curious, and he's genuinely attempting to understand people's point of view. That's why he's dangerous to the extremes on both sides; he doesn't take sides, he's willing to grow and change his position given new information.

[@tylertyler82]

The average Joe is not naturally curious nor does he change or open minded. Joe Rogan is better than the average Joe.

[@Marie-fh9fr]

@@tylertyler82 the better than average joe lol

[@cmichael6117]

The average Joe didn’t say antifa was responsible for the California wildfires and then apologize for spreading a right wing conspiracy theory.

[@oparei8725]

Let’s be honest Joe has a big base and people kiss his ass.

[@greyfox4838]

the one time he was not an average joe was when he had fucking crenshaw on and they both acted shocked about lazy peasants getting stimulus checks

[@oddbod6366]

I've been listening to Rogan for years. He is just a genuine podcaster that wants an honest discussion. When I hear his take on something I know I'm getting his honest take whether I agree or not. Its the political wings and media cherry picking or attacking his opinions. This is why its so refreshing to hear an open discussion on a podcast like his rather than listen to mainstream news outlets and activist propaganda.

[@Shubham8839]

Rogan is neither Right nor Left, he's in "That's entirely possible" zone

[@loljk9443]

It is after all “entirely possible”

[@roboparks]

Yes its Called Pluralism. Joe Isn't Secular or a Fundamentalist.

[@ImNotHereEither]

Joe literally says it every week, I’m a comedian, I’m a dumbass, don’t listen to me! Yet every week I see people trying to fit him in a box. It’s hilarious.

[@zeaferjones1404]

It's the same thing with Charles Barkley. Joe Rogan and Charles Barkley pisses of the Left the most because they aren't Republicans, they speak their mind and they are untouchable.

[@Ayush999ful]

Totally agree, he always says don't take my words seriously. He just say what he feels and it's simple as that. After trump, he is the main target 😑 for left side

[@tubafats100]

@@zeaferjones1404 Charles Barkley is literally a republican

[@bOmBAsTiK]

What a cop out...he's full of shit.

[@zeaferjones1404]

@@tubafats100 I actually think Shaq is a Republican, although he keeps it on the low. However I've never heard of Charles Barkley being a Republican.

[@spideyguy3454]

I needed this. I have trash talked Rogan before without really watching his show or learning his actual take on things. I made a lot of assumptions based on the spin. Watching the interview was also a big eye-opener. Thank you.

[@alwayslernin4400]

That's the problem with most of our country. We need to all shut up and listen. Glad you did.

[@spsawyer22]

Appreciate you admitting that. It's tough to admit you're wrong. I was in favor of the Iraq War (oops), we all F up from time to time with our takes.

[@leifa888]

Respect. This is growth.

[@adamgibson473]

The internet culture is short attention span and gullible. Everyone is a victim.

[@Rod77Manrique]

Imagine how many more of these little devils remain. Good work.

[@AnteaterRae]

Thank you... love you and Joe. Loved him for years, and I'm a freaking liberal. Everyone needs to stop being so offended and more open minded. I appreciate honesty more than agreement with my every opinion. You're kicking ass!

[@dmike3507]

Joe said himself on his podcast that he's "left" on almost everything except for guns and maybe a few other issues. From watching lots of his political podcasts over the years I can confirm that this is true. Yes there are issues that he waffles on & seems to lean towards agreeing with his guests. Overall though he's remained consistent on the majority of issues & has pushed back against most right-wing nonsense, while embracing a bit of it here and there ("a bit" being the key term here).

[@HighlanderNorth1]

👉Yeah, like me, Rogan does support issues that are traditionally deemed LIBERAL, like opposing the ridiculously counterproductive "war on drugs", support of gay marriage, sensible environmental issues, FREE SPEECH, etc. ☢️But the modern left has radicalized to the point where traditional liberals have more in common with most modern, run-of-the-mill centrist conservatives than they do with "progressives". That's because the NEW left have pretty much fully embraced illiberal Marxism/communism, which is based not in reform, but subversion & DESTRUCTION of America's systems, including free speech, equal rights, anti-discrimination, etc! The vast majority of the new left AND the democrats have fully embraced the notion of judging people NOT on their character or abilities, but PRIMARILY on the color of their skin, and their gender identity, lumping everyone into intersectional hierarchies, where those with the most "intersectional brownie points" being deemed most valuable. Thats not to mention the ridiculous idea of completely redefining everything about America as "evil and oppressive", and literally stereotyping white people as the evil oppressors, and non-whites as basically "noble savages", who the left perceive as being too incompetent to be held to ANY level of personal responsibility. Therefore, they can't be blamed for anything that goes wrong in their own lives. It's all random white people's fault!! All of that nonsense is being parroted in the "news" media, in critical race theory, which is being forced into our schools, govt institutions, military, etc! The democrats have removed "gendered language" from congress, claiming that using terms like "mother and father" are somehow "oppressive"!

[@jeremybuan1274]

Does he not lean more towards Saagar’s political views than Krystal’s? He seems to lean Libertarian, in my estimation. I wouldn’t consider Libertarians to be left leaning.

[@funbigly]

Umm maybe the contemporary left doesn't care about "growing the movement" because it will win ANYWAY. 81 million voters for Biden will be 90 million the next time around. Nevermind how.

[@tylerhinkle6254]

Most wealthy peoples are Lefties.

[@bodystomp5302]

@@tylerhinkle6254 incorrect.

[@djmikio]

The opinion of the "woker-than-thou" social media mob and the opinion of the left-leaning voters in the street seem way different. I and my lefty Boomer and Gen X friends love and relate to Joe.

[@SMC01ful]

Summed me up perfectly.

[@urbanredneck9876]

A friend and I we recently discussing the generation label thing and my generation was left out I was born in 64 I'm not a boomer but I'm not gen x either we decided that I am Boomer X based on BMX bikes replacing muscle bikes in popularity when I was a teenager

[@djmikio]

@fred waggy I was too young to see Hendrix and already 30 for Kurt Cobain so I feel ya dude. ✌️

[@wiplash123987]

Im conservative and love Joe, cause he doesn't really give a shit and being both a comedian and a martial artist, he is just a cool dude to sit and have a beer with it seems. He is left leaning on many of his views but as the crazyness in politics have come up he has slid more towards the center it seems. There does seem a huge gap between the mindless twitter mobs on the left and just left leaning voters from an older generation. I can relate across the aisles to boomer or gen x, but I cannot with this new twitter woke crowd.

[@urbanredneck9876]

I actually find this talk of left and right kind of comical, in America I guess you can call it left and right but in a worldview it's all right of center in America

[@PDXMILO]

That's why I as a progressive like Joe. Some of his views I can't jive with but he's genuinely open minded to seeing things factually and doesn't just bend to political winds.

[@ajp3056]

What are Joe's Hardcore Progressive Policies and his Guests from The Left to Far Left?

[@justinmiller1118]

Totally

[@justinmiller1118]

@@ajp3056 Isn't joe for universal healthcare? Sympathetic to creative ideas like UBI. Thinks radical deregulation is ridiculous and recognizes the major problems that it can cause. Always looks at things from a position of love and sympathy and open-mindedness.

[@justinmiller1118]

As for left wing guests, he's had Krystal. He's had Cenk. Has he had Kyle Kulinski too? Wish he could have had Michael Brooks on.

[@justinmiller1118]

@@ajp3056 i do agree he needs more representation from the left. I would love to see him have a multi-hour conversation with Emma Vigeland oe Sam Seder. Or Ana Kasparian.

[@YouTubeIsTheGestapo]

I disagree with the right claiming Rogan, when he says something they agree with of course they’re gonna run with it but it’s not claiming him, I think most people know he’s center left

[@rfphill]

I agree, the Right sees an ally in Rogan when it comes to combating the Woke neo religion but it's clear that Joe still bends the knee circumstantially... He doubles down on his criticism of the Right often caricaturizing the Right with the same clumsy and lazy stereotypes and prejudices the Left has wielded forever and it's a clear knee jerk virtue signal to the Left that he still unconsciously (or consciously) wants to be accepted as one of theirs.

[@chillingguy8386]

I’m right wing and a fan of Joe and I cringe when right wing news outlets clam Joe

[@rfphill]

@@chillingguy8386 totally agree... He is definitely not right wing. He is an ally on certain issues and has common sense, an alpha, and tells the woke crowd to fuck off... But he tells the Right to fuck off on a lot of stuff too...

[@yourinthebushes63]

To say there is no correlation between less cops and more crime is pretty disingenuous.

[@abcun17]

I think that one of the important things Joe Rogan does, is that with his podcast he creates a space where ideas and opinions can be exchanged, challenged and analyzed. He provides a place where discussions can happen or better yet facilitates dialogue between many, different and varied people. A platform such as that is vital these days, especially when the gatekeepers of the MSM seem to have those gates shut off and locked tightly. Edit: Which is what "Breaking Points" is and I hope will continue to be!

[@Evosol1]

Spot on! 🎯

[@KristeeBee]

Absolutely! It amazes me that the lefties have become completely AGAINST free speech to the point that they’re cheering-on the outrageous amount of censorship that’s going on. Honestly I think Rose McGowan is right- the Dem party absolutely qualifies as a cult. It’s insane.

[@ClarkPotter]

Completely agree and reject criticisms leveled at him for platforming right-wingers like Peterson, Shapiro, or Milo. Even Michael Brooks in his book criticizes anyone who would give the right the time of day and "platform" them. It just amazes me. I just figure that if their ideas are so wrong, which they are, then it should be easy to dismantle them, which Joe does with ease frequently and without being combative, and in a way that your average person might or at least resonate with. The left is unhinged atm and abusively erects an echo-silo in our culture that ever more intensively and brazenly dismisses the right outright and precludes discourse, meanwhile accepting this wave of turning culture into cult we call woke, that's bizarroland mental illness of religious proportions. And again, Joe articulates the average post-woke person's views on it that retains the good while exposing its insane excesses.

[@Luckyleft13]

Yes! Allowing people to form complete thoughts without 4 other people in the mix in 8 minute segments does wonders.

[@jeremiasteliasperez4507]

Yeah, but beware of this false idea of equal exchange of ideas. Like, if you have, por example, 99,9% of scientists agreeing about something and 0,01% of them saying otherwise, based on analysis actual data, not opinion, giving equal time to "both sides" creates, actually, an imbalance. This is only an example. I think this issue can be found, to a reasonable extent, in Rogan's approach. Discussing ideas is not just thinking in abstract terms. Many ideas have big consequences. This is a nuance I would like to see in Krystal's otherwise nuanced take.

[@apatheticallyconcerned6574]

"What kind of a dumbass movement goes out of its way to push someone away that shares most of their goals...?" The kind of movement that was never interested in solving any problems problems in the first place. They were interested in power and revenge against perceived wrongs, and to cause general chaos for which they believe they have the sole solution.

[@jthom0027]

I don't believe that the majority of the movement is how you describe but there certainly are groups that fall into the "they want power and revenge against wrongs". There are also a lot of people he wrongly consider themselves progressive yet are too comfortable in life to actually push for anything meaningful for working class people. They may like some of the ideas but are reluctant to actually push for anything quickly. These are the Vaush's of the world.

[@morenitomoreno1282]

That's literally what people like Jimmy Dore and the same people in the comment section defending joe would tell you TYT is 100% irredeemable even though ideologically they're closer to them than Rogan. I would love for Krystal to do the same segment on TYT, the same people talking that "take yes for an answer" stuff about Rogan(who keeps lying about defund the police which is being used against the left) would be ratio the video. A lot these self righteous leftists are extremely confused. They're wiling to defend even far right ghouls like Tucker Carlson but completely condemn other leftists they don't see eye to eye on every single issue. It's the weirdest thing ever. Seems like they just got caught up in the "owning the libs thing"

[@JarmamStuff]

@@morenitomoreno1282 The amount of irony in condemning Jimmy Dore and his fans as 'self righteous leftists' while talking up TYT is so insane that I got a nosebleed from reading it. TYT is scorched earth, as is their insane fanbase, and being a tool of the Democratic party means you will get flak. Stop - whining about it. For the love of god, does no one on the left have self-respect anymore?

[@morenitomoreno1282]

@@JarmamStuff So tell me why Joe who moved to Texas to pay less taxes after his $100 millions deal and hes now pushing lies about the crime uptick that even centrist Dems use against the left to justify their losses, should be accepted by the left which is why this segment is about but TYT is beyond the pale? And this is not Crystal opinion but Jimmy thinks people like Tucker Carlson and other far right goons are valuable to the left but TYT is 100% not good. please explain to my socialist self how does that make any sense. How does the left benefit more from "working" with" the far right than leftists we have some disagreements with? And Cenk ran for office(which Jimmy will never do cause he's a coward whos more comfortable telling people how much better than them he would be at doing things he never does) and was smeared relentlessly by the DNC which you claim he's a tool of. Was the DNC smearing him as a David Duke supporter and a rape apologist part of the grand scheme that Cenk voluntary took part in?

[@peoples2296]

@@morenitomoreno1282 Rogan moved to Texas because LA is garbage, from the fake Hollywood culture, to the homeless problem, to the housing crisis. He also moved to a liberal city in Texas.

[@mlb5525]

I stopped this when Krystal said she doesn’t agree with Rogan that defunding the police has a disaster. No Krystal crime is not up in virtually every city! Crime is up virtually in every city with a Democrat for a mayor.

[@frederikhyrup2871]

Nurses, teachers, wallmart, police and firefighters/EMTs are people. Police are not bad people. Structures and laws makes them bad. Not their choice of job. Btw I have never worked as a nurse.

[@scratchpenny]

I think that people are individually capable of both good and bad. I think systems/structures can facilitate or constrain behavior, but they are not responsible for it. It is ultimately the individual person who is responsible for their behavior. It's dangerous to subscribe all good or bad behavior to a system because it doesn't account for individual choice. And it takes away the real agency of individuals. That reasoning can be used to devise ineffective social systems that don't actually benefit humankind. We see this done all the time with public policy schemes.

[@frederikhyrup2871]

@@scratchpenny No system is flawless. But I disagree, it is not the personal level. I am both a conservative and a socialist. I am not in ONE camp. As of now I deem, both political (2) party system a fraud. Because they agree on EVERYTHING besides guns and abortion. You are much more than a pawn...

[@hughjazz7571]

When Rogan, Krystal, Saagar, and Kyle get together and chat, you know you’re gonna be entertained and informed.

[@darktagmaster1861]

It was good. But I’d rather see Joe, Ari, Tommy and Bert. And Ari can dose them all!!!!

[@OT_concerned_citizen]

Tyt constantly trying pathetically to trash rogan

[@EastSide-qc5oy]

More entertained than informed

[@rh81454]

I disagree with Kyle and Krystal on many things but I know they're sincere with wanting to help everyday Americans.

[@TripleDDDD]

We need to get a Sagaar-Rogan segment when they smoke weed and talk about UFOs

[@markhansen7486]

This was a really open minded and pragmatic take. This was refreshing

[@lautaroaguilar9584]

Agreed! More of this, please.

[@josiplilic3384]

We, from left, deserve worst outcome.Oh wait, it's allready happened.TYT aside,there are Seeder,Pakman,Vaush(cool) vs Dore,Kyle,Matt & Katie and Krystal. I support Kyle & Krystal & friends,but United we stand/Divided we fall,as Roger Waters wrote.

[@A_Derpy_NINJA]

@@josiplilic3384 Seder is trash, he simps for Chris Hayes so he can keep his appearances on msnbc. Vaush, don’t even get me started on that garbage either.

[@josiplilic3384]

@@A_Derpy_NINJA Agree with you 100 pct.Btw,I like those guys from Vanguard.Hope they make it.

[@peoples2296]

@@josiplilic3384 pretty sure Krystal and Kyle don't want to get involved in the leftie infighting

[@traysutherland8491]

He’s not even that politically minded. He always just comes at it as a human.

[@jimbishop8667]

Joe's point of view is dependent on whether he's smoking blueberry crush or alright alright alright!

[@traysutherland8491]

@@jimbishop8667 legit 😂

[@jerrybobteasdale]

My regard for the professional news makers has plummeted in the last 15 years. That's the news media, community organizers, and politicians.

[@jaybeeaustria9706]

Screw these purity tests. A legit 3rd party is long overdue.

[@zerocool5395]

Ross Perot was right about the two party system.

[@muttbuslife1111]

If Jesse Ventura had run Rogan would've endorsed him. It would've been a huge upset.

[@BobbbyJoeKlop]

5:41-This. 100% this. We're being divided on purpose, and it's transparent as fuck.

[@DontKillFriends]

It's part of why I tell people to treat conspiracy theories with tremendous skepticism. Not only do those divide people as well and make them think things are so convoluted that there's nothing we can do, but that chasing crazy ones will lead them away from...the legitimate conspiracies that are going on! Covid19 is real. No, vaccines aren't going to cull the population. Did China lie about Covid's origins? Definitely. Did they then have political and media figures defending them due to the tremendous financial incentives to do so? Extremely likely.

[@nonyabiness7497]

@@DontKillFriends absolutely. The real conspiracies are now associated with BS conspiracy theories, like big foot, ancient aliens, and lizard people. The masses who watch mainstream news are not open to considering the real issues and crimes committed by our politicians and celebrity entrepreneurs.

[@Steef_Lee]

He’s honest and unhindered by partisan bs, and he’s open minded.

[@AshGreen359]

I'm an independent because I don't like being wrong half the time.

[@ModernDiecast]

So glad you guys are doing this show. The Hill seems to be an ever growing dumpster fire since you left.

[@scottymacdewder5229]

I unsubed from the hill 30 seconds after breaking point premiered...

[@ModernDiecast]

Ive been trying to give it a chance, but I'm pretty much at that point myself.

[@adityabali1939]

You guys are so dramatic. Yes it’s nice that Krystal and Saagar are doing their own thing but it’s not like the Hill is dead or whatever. They are coexisting and will continue to do so.

[@ModernDiecast]

No drama here. Just voicing my opinion.

[@ashura3313]

They had Chunk Yogurt on for two days, desperately trying to save both of them from subs and members and oh, they kept Emily, the one who Boring Grim took out and got rid of her replacement.

[@wrz4581]

I love Joe Rogan and this show. Joe also understands how important the Constitution is and needs protected. I dont care what side anyone is on. As long as we can have a civil discussion. Rationally look at things, and have hard but honest conversation

[@a526003b]

It’s healthy to be rational and open minded, call bs when you see it. I wish more people understood that but I won’t hold my breath.

[@fredschnerbert1238]

Everyone has their "hot button" issues. No matter how much they may agree with someone on other topics, if they disagree on YOUR "buttons' you must disavow them...or that seems to be the InterWebs standard 2021....well post 2014 especially..

[@jmnightingale9055]

Mostly agree with Krystal's comments, except the part about January 6 and the comparison between those protesters and BLM protesters. The Capitol Police allowing the January 6 protesters into the Capitol was not an act of kindness. The protesters were unarmed and mostly peaceful and were lured into the Capitol by the armed police who stood by, and then later the protesters were demonized and charged with crimes in the most heavy-handed manner possible as many are still in custody. The BLM protesters, in contrast, are rarely charged with crimes no matter how much property damage they cause or how violent they are. Also, note that the January 6 protesters were there to try to pressure lawmakers to look into election irregularities, and when protesters in other countries try to do the same to their lawmakers and the protesters are arrested, we condemn those governments.

[@chuckhooks6621]

The left is already going crazy that there is reason to believe FBI agents were in the crowd and encouraging the violence on 01/06.

[@fredschnerbert1238]

@@chuckhooks6621 Well, somewhere in the loop, they seem to acknowledge THIS last week. Gotta wonder what they are thinking over in DOJ now.... Lot of different "conspiracy theory"s floating around, one of them may even be true,,,

[@mathgod]

Joe Rogan is very empathic. He can feel/ understand where just about any guest stands. This may come off as agreement. Most times it is more understanding. Joe seems pretty centrist when interviews are seen as a whole.

[@Mike-mc3sh]

He identifies as being on the left and has more agreements with the left. He just doesn't like the woke, PC, outrage, cancel culture that exists in the left. Many leftists like myself also don't like wokeism or political correctness.

[@jthom0027]

@@Mike-mc3sh Agreed. I'm always flabergasted when people attack Joe Rogan as some sort of right wing lunatic. They are going off of his look and the fact that he has right wingers on to talk. These are the same people that attack Krystal for talking to Saagar and attack Jimmy Dore and Glen Greenwald for going on Tucker Carlson's show. They don't care about what is actually being said or discussed, they are caught up in the optics which is a very low IQ thing to worry about when you are trying to rebuild lines of communication.

[@Mike-mc3sh]

@@jthom0027 100% and I think it's more than just ignorance. Like you said I do believe they are lower intelligence but I don't like to say it. Been watching a lot of things about IQ and signs of people with low and high IQ. A lot of these people do have the markers of low IQ and forming ideology based on feelings and emotion.

[@rohan81991]

@@Mike-mc3sh same with me. Im liberal AF. As soon as i started posting things anti woke, I saw my left friends say "AHA! you're a right wing guy! I never knew!" like they are the gestapo trying to find Jews in hiding.

[@jacobbailey979]

Hes not empathetic for people who don't lift.

[@xxxxOS]

I've been watching Rogan from the beginning of his podcast during the Redban days. Im as far left as it gets. Joe is a vessel. He is open to all kinds of conversations and his platform allows those conversations to be had, good or bad. Whether you agree with some of it or not. Talking to people isn't dangerous. When did the left become so closed minded and authoritarian!? I dont use those words lightly either, this is getting ridiculous. Grow the hell up. Stop burning books. You are brainwashed by the corporate empire. Joe is a good soul, he isn't trying to do bad. He has platformed tons of prominent leftists, he could do more but thats up to him. Im grateful for him either way. His convo with Kyrstal, Sagaar and Kyle were extremely informative.

[@Tod_oMal]

"Im as far left as it gets". Mmm... You sure? Rogan also says all the time that he is a lefty and I have my doubts about that too. Same feeling when I listen to Jimmy Dore. Or the left must have changed completely from what it was.

[@xxxxOS]

@@Tod_oMal I'm a communist from Scotland. I have tax payer funded healthcare, dental, eyeglasses, free prescriptions, free college, healthy benefits system in general which I fully support and also wish for a post capitalist society one day. So yeah, I'm as far left as it gets. I'm working class from a small rural town in Scotland. My papa was a big union guy working in the mines. I've been interested in Geopolitics, economics, history, poltical science, philosophy for a good 20 of my 30 years. Was around left tube long before orange man came along. I'm very much pro working class, anti corporatism/capitalism/landlords/bosses/billionaires, CEOs, shareholders. I'm leftist economically. Where I may differ from you is on some social matters. But all that matters at the end of the day is class unification. We will fix none of these social issues without changing our economic systems which are rigged against the working class people globally. Jimmy Dore is pro all these things too. Just because he doesn't believe in WMDs 2.0 doesn't make him not a lefty. Anyone who believes pro regime change propaganda about Syria didn't learn a thing from Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya or any of the interventionist oils wars. If anything Jimmy is further left than you because he understands imperialism and understands war is simply a profitable industry now for the oligarchs who control our government. I'll be having non of your smears against the man. Shitlibs don't understand populism or anything. That's why you keep losing your power to far right extremists.

[@galaxiax3284]

Joe is a good soul? Please !!!!!what about the quid pro quo with Ukraine? One of many corrupt dealings not to mention the election was stolen so if you support the radical extremist lefts ideology then you are the problem in our country.

[@xxxxOS]

Just because someone is out of touch and ignorant doesn't mean they are acting in bad faith. Kyle Kullinski and Joe got into a debate on their podcast the other day about healthcare. Joe had some bad right wing takes, Kyle explained why single payer healthcare is a lot better for the American people than the current profit driven system. Joe then changed his mind on the matter. Joe isn't a poltical junkie. He's an actor and a commentator, most people who aren't totally into politics tend to be misinformed at times. You can't write people off and close down all communication just because you disagree with people! That's why you Americans are so divided. Working class people in your country have been divided up like pizza and it makes you powerless against the corrupt system. You are divided between left and right, men and woman, gay and straight, black and white. This is intentional. As someone who has spend years following politics closely I've changed my mind on many occasions when I learn new information. The problem is you all see each other as 'the other' and give yourselves no patience or empathy. That's thanks to you Hate Inc media that does nothing but freak you all out and get you hating each other. Not everyone is too far gone. Most people aren't Nazis, there's a small pool of actual psychopaths in the US and most of them are in positions of power. Your right wing uncle who has been brainwashed isn't the enemy. The enemy is the Corporations and billionaires who divide you all up so they can screw you all over economically. You all need to come out of your little safe bubbles and start organising together. You are all Americans. There are so many monsters in that country, but victims of propaganda are not monsters. Propaganda is incredibly sophisticated today. Look what Nazi propaganda did to Germany! Well, today's propaganda is a lot more refined and it's being pushed out to working class people globally as a way to get working class people voting against their own interests. Instead of being upset at people with no power, essentially, like Joe Rogan why don't you get mad at the real oligarchs running the show. Weapons manufacturing CEOs, Oil tycoons, banking cartels, silicon valley technocrats, corrupt intelligence agencies and politicans. Joe didn't ask to be as popular as he is and he is untitled to his own opinion even if it's wrong. There's no laws stating that people have to understand poltical science to be a podcaster. Get over it. Flipping out about Joe Rogan is a waste of energy. Get out into your community and protest war, greed, poverty and corruption. Those are all real issues.

[@nayslayer2563]

@@xxxxOS According to that quiz everyone takes, I'm center-very-slightly right-libertarian. But I couldn't agree more with your assessment. The rise of the "I'm-going-to-run-for-Congress-to-fix-social-ills-in-my-district" candidate is a great example of what you're saying. That's not the job of a Congressperson. A Congressperson represents their district to the FEDERAL government. All politics is local fundamentally. We've forgotten how the system (federalism!) actually CAN work for us if we all organize together. People would rather scream at Washington instead of, oh, I dunno, going to a town council meeting or making comments to their state legislatures.

[@monecayardley]

It’s more mental health. Especially from wounds from repeated wars that adults play every decade for hundreds years.

[@bnewman21]

Thank god! some one needed to do this.. Joe Rogan is one of the only people.. with a huge platform that isn’t part of the culture war.. he’s just flat out a rational human being

[@vonclod123]

Joe is pretty fair, I lean left, but have 0 use for left wing media, it disgusts and embarrasses me.

[@klaussvanfedreservedigital4793]

"Buy a man eat fish, he day, teach fish man, to a lifetime." .... Joe Biden

[@rock53355]

I got fucking cancer and died reading that

[@scrutch666]

@@rock53355 message from the afterlife

[@klaussvanfedreservedigital4793]

@@rock53355 🤣 Be well my friend

[@geejaybee]

I'm stealing that..... Sue me🤣🤣

[@conservativevoice1164]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5alg62laLaEgdU..

[@chinothepony]

I love that you two are still working together to deliver us your truths!

[@desr421]

Not going to lie that was probably the best take that I've heard from the media about the JRE ever!

[@NuanceBro]

In our modern political landscape Rogan is considered rightwing. Anti-identity politics, pro-gun, anti-lockdown and mask mandates, anti-trans women in womens sports, pro-police, endorsed DeSantis led Florida as the most sane state in the country etc etc. In reality he’s a heterodox thinker that isnt married to an ideology like many of us but these days that’s considered right wing. Again look who gets praised by vs criticized by the most

[@schroeder666]

I agree that rogan is essentially a casualty of polarization. He is a typical incoherent-politics person where he is sort of muddling through and could be swayed in either direction. A lot of people of course relate to that and are the same way. I could easily see him being anti-gun and anti-police if he just was being persuaded in a particular way. The beef I and a lot of others have is that this polarization is a rightwing phenomenon as well, AND the right is the party both threatening democracy and preventing the kind of bills that actually are supported by the broadest sets of both left- and right-wing voters. (Most of the Dem policies being blocked by Repubs are supported by majority of Repub voters.) A lot of us are upset that everyone basically completely accepts the right being militant and then acts completely offended that portions of the left are militant, at a time when right-wing policies are so nightmarish.

[@judealexander8259]

Rogan is wrong on many things. Rogan is also pro drug legalization, anti- War, pro-choice, pro expanding voting rights, pro UBI, pro single payer healthcare. DeSantis is an authoritarian whose covid death rate and case rate is even higher than California’s

[@everything...interesting]

Nuance Bro! Where you been, bruh?

[@TheTonySRich]

That's the reason he's so popular, on some level he appeals to almost everyone

[@richardlefaive1944]

@@judealexander8259 From that coterie of items you were suggesting as flaws in his perspective, one in particular leapt out ... "Anti-war". How is this a "wrong" position ? Please elaborate. I think I'm going to enjoy reading your response.

[@cauchy100]

These graphics look *way* better.

[@invanorm]

Yuuuge improvement

[@ja6975]

Wayyyyy better

[@Spider-Drip]

this is happening to millions of centre left leaning people, not just Rogan

[@JacksonWelch]

This is why MSM is dying. Love breaking points for these honest bipartisan takes.

[@johnjacobjingleheimerschmi2895]

The whole point should be it doesn’t matter if he’s completely on the left because we champion civil discourse, not “he’s actually on our side so be nice”

[@akakizz]

I feel like Krystal Ball is really such an important figure on the left, I am so glad they have so many listeners!

[@jocksharerock7318]

K B Unfortunately she talked about the problem with naming, shaming, and pushing people away, but Krystal, Saager and their guests very often do just that. Ostensibly, she is understanding that while different segments of the left are unhappy with Rogan, while conservatives laud his stances. Joe can be very fair, but it can’t be denied that his viewership is overwhelmingly conservative. I personally think it’s due to the interviews he’s done with bad faith personalities and his inability to push back on their narratives(his casual format is perfect for those who look fair while spewing such nonsense) That’s said, When he catches it from Dave Rubin, Ben Shapiro and representative Crenshaw, he calls them out. I hope in the next while Joe will do better research on his guests. I won’t hold my breath

[@akakizz]

@@jocksharerock7318 yeah it’s not really his M.O. nor should we expect it to be. I totally back that criticism of Joe, but it’s not really what I have EVER expected so I’m never really outraged about anything he does

[@bidhrohi12]

Krystal is as much "Left" as Dave Rubin is.

[@coytheman]

I've brought up Rogan twice in talking to neighbors and they asked, "wait are you a Republican?" Kid you not.

[@chuckhooks6621]

On guns, freedom, police and the Second Amendment, Rogan is on the same page as Ted Nugent. That alone is enough for the Left to hate Rogan

[@QuidamByMoonlight]

Thanks for finally setting the record straight on Joe Rogan. I consider myself “left of center”, which is why I like Joe Rogan. Like him, I am far left on a few things, and centrist or mildly conservative on others. The “average” of all those views you could say is “centrist”, or left of center, but that doesn’t really cover it. The new wave of leftists is making genuine liberals and progressives look as though they are “alt-right”, which is ridiculous. The ideological purity tests and tribalism are out of hand!

[@geejaybee]

Joe has far more "left wing" attitudes and views than his right wing ones.

[@johndurtt6594]

Right left you fools don't get it , george carlin said it best 💯💯💯

[@thalesnemo2841]

Reich !

[@morenitomoreno1282]

I don't know that. He moved to Texas after that lucrative deal and he mostly sides with conservatives on these dumb culture war stories

[@zeaferjones1404]

@@morenitomoreno1282 Well I'm a liberal and I side with conservatives on most of the dumb culture war stories. You can try to downplay critical race theory, BLM violence, and freedom of speech issues but you don't have to rock a confederate flag on your truck to see the problems with all those things

[@revolutionarydragon1123]

@@zeaferjones1404 liberal are still relatively right wing just center right like the democratic party is center right even someone like AOC is just simply a moderate

[@taterrhead]

Joe is way farther Left than Biden ...

[@vikinghammer87]

@Zero Gravity wat

[@low_vibration]

sharing "most goals and values" will never be enough

[@AncientChi]

Krystal is blinded often by the left

[@qwery486]

What? Krystal is the left

[@harrisonbailey9884]

Joe is a thoughtful and interesting person. anyone who actually listens to Joe knows how he tries to understand nuance and listen to a diversity of opinions. instead of selling fear and sound bites joe has long form conversations and tries to understand those he speaks with.

[@bidhrohi12]

He's very sympathetic to the Proud Boys and Trump, and he hates Biden and all Democrats. So, no.

[@scratchpenny]

@@bidhrohi12 Haha. You obviously have an agenda. Do you get paid by the post? I've seen multiple posts by you in the last few minutes, all stating a version of the same thing. This kind of thinking is exactly what Krystal is talking about. What you're doing is practicing the elementary school logic of the MSM. The fact that Joe Rogan doesn't do this is why he's so popular.

[@bidhrohi12]

@@tylerwellman8078 Tell me you're prone to being a groupie to some online personality without saying you're a groupie fangirl.

[@benjaf1058]

The only time I actively avoid Joe Rogan is if he has a political figure or pundits on. Huge respect for the man but I don’t think he is well informed enough to ask tough questions and tbh neither am I LOL

[@arturobenavides6142]

Left wing people just can’t comprehend that Rogan can have a conservative opinion on certain things… they need 100% compliance.

[@dalersohi8353]

This is it 100%. They require full conformity to their ideology. It's self defeating.

[@AB-ol5uz]

@@dalersohi8353 it's cultish behavior given all of their purity tests and cancel culture against people that don't comply - regardless of whether they are Democrats, or not.

[@gregoryjenkins8645]

Indeed.

[@rockinthemtees1628]

@@AB-ol5uz well said

[@WaterGates1]

And 💥 goes the dynamite...

[@andresorozco3268]

One of Joes Best PodCast episodes with you two.

[@briancox7875]

Another thing that Ronald Reagan couldn't remember is whether or not his administration was involved in the drug trafficking business. "Just say no to drugs," what a freaking joke.

[@frog1098765]

More JRE/BP collaborations please!

[@havable]

Wow. That was my formative political experience too. Despite being about ten years old, I remember not even knowing what Reagan was talking about but watching him lie about it. It was obvious he was lying. Even a child could tell, a child who didn't understand the subject matter and didn't know the facts but knew when someone was lying because it was *that* obvious

[@elitexpgaming1810]

Cap

[@JonMcDanielMusic]

Both are great at convo with Rogan. Some of their questions seem too pre-prepared to where the conversation is at, but Joe is cool with them and makes it smooth imo

[@prodigalbrock]

The difference is the violent crime is up MUCH MORE in defunded places

[@seventwenty4569]

The cops need to clean up their ranks before they complain about the defund. They blanketly protect the scum in their ranks and complain about mistrust of the public.

[@melissah8415]

I remember all the comments on Rogan's video in which he interviewed Bernie. So many of his viewers said they were surprised by Bernie (because they had bought into the smearing of MSM) and that they were now going to vote for Bernie in the primary. It was simply amazing!

[@daveg4963]

But I thought he's a right wing wacko? 😂

[@stuartstogdill2406]

But nobody voted for Bernie... lol.

[@darktagmaster1861]

I did

[@mediatool9596]

@@stuartstogdill2406 yes they did!!....he was winning the primary by FAR!! The party completely F'ed him....remember!!???

[@stuartstogdill2406]

@@mediatool9596 LMAO.. he never truly led anything. Barely winning 9 states in the primaries. Only got HALF the votes that Dementia Joe got in total, lol. Nobody fucked him this time, against Hillary yes, but 2020 he failed himself by being a complete stooge. Bernie has never had a real chance at POTUS and the world is better for that reason.

[@wesleystafford8521]

One of the biggest problems with this country is LABELS.

[@kamael1125]

That's why Joe is so popular. In the world where open conversation is almost non-existent, where everyone goes into conversation treating it as a contest, as a debate, Joe can actually sit down with both sides and have a chat. Look at last Crowder drama with h3h3. Joe is a pleasure to listen to even if you don't agree with him or whoever he speaks with. That's the source of his success.

[@davidbroughall3782]

They push him away because their movement is not a movement, it's a religion. If you're not all in on all of their dogma, then you're all the way out.

[@juanpecan7089]

How many young Leftists do you know and interact with?

[@timontide6404]

It's not a religion, it's just a corporatist dogma. The Corporate DNC MSM is all about helping the oligarchy maintain power.

[@davidbroughall3782]

@@timontide6404 And what's a key element of religion? Dogma.

[@darktagmaster1861]

Like jesus

[@amostlyreasonableguy]

juanpecan I used to be one of them. A passionate progressive who campaigned for same-sex marriage, protested wars on the streets of Washington DC, argued with conservatives online and in person about major issues like income inequality, read the nation & watched TYT daily. Then the secular religion moved even further left to the point where enforcing borders is largely immoral, the biological differences between men and women don’t matter, people can change their gender fluidly throughout the day or week, you can critique the sexism or homophobia of western culture but never of Islam or else you’re a bigot, and if you’re white you have the original sin of inherent racism as one of the oppressors which should be taught to all young schoolchildren. The left kept moving left in its zealotry about ten years ago and I didn’t move along with them, which now makes me center-right or solidly on the right given their increasingly radical ideology.

[@robertpaetow7812]

You guys just boosted your ratings being on the Joe Rogan podcast good job 👍

[@robertpaetow7812]

Joe Rogan has a good motivational speech on KZbin check it out

[@keokai2122]

Thank you guys for clearing that up. 🙂

[@Ghaos]

Two things: A: You say crime is up everywhere in the US, irrespective of a location's 'defund the police' stance. Please cite a source... B: If A is correct, why would anyplace WANT to defund?

[@DontKillFriends]

Well the "defund the police" movement had a list of policy goals that didn't equate to "cancel police departments." It's a terrible name. However, massive legitimate defunding hasn't been the case, even in a city or two where Joe indicated that it had been a "disaster." More like, the movement was more aggressive in that particular area and it caused issues, not that the police departments got legitimately defunded and there weren't enough police and crime took over. That's not what happened. Also, more police funding and stricter laws don't always equal crime rates decreasing. In fact, the war n drugs becoming more aggressive actually increased both black market crime and severity of crimes committed, as well as literally drug use. So you could say "hey drug use increased we need MORE DEA FUNDING." No we absolutely don't, and we absolutely need the exact opposite. Now drug crimes are different, police do stop actual violent crimes as well, so we can't just cancel police departments. It's just a misnomer that any major organized movement is actually trying to. It's not that simple.

[@Ghaos]

@@DontKillFriends Let's stay focused. "Defund the Police" movements were created to feed to myth that 'overpoliced areas led to more crime'. That previous statement makes no sense, and is usually debunked by people who actually live in those areas. I mean think about it logically why would an area WITH AN OVERABUNDANCE OF POLICE led to more crime, if anything you'd get the opposite. An increased police presence does not induce otherwise "law abiding citizens" to not commit crime. If you area have lots of police, its because they are being called. These neighborhoods with increased police presence need to understand "why" their youths are attracted to crime in the first place. Walgreens, for example, is closing many of their stores in San Fran because of shoplifting costs. These thieves are stealing razors and deodorant, not food, so it not like they are stealing to eat.

[@meandyouagainstthealgorith5787]

Here's a question for liberals. You remember Joe Rogan's endorsement of Bernie, but do you remember the name of the very first elected Representative to endorse Bernie?

[@nfo1776]

Nope, who?

[@joshbobst1629]

@@nfo1776 Was it Ron Wyden? Mark Pocan?

[@garetroth5683]

I'm going to guess Nina Turner? Ron Paul? Dennis Kucinich?

[@chachaguillotine187]

Jeff Merkley?

[@meandyouagainstthealgorith5787]

@@garetroth5683 Nina Turner who had been in the Ohio Senate would be first, but was not in office at the time. Raul Grijalva, was first US Rep to endorse while still in office.

[@spcsalas138]

Krystal: "Joe is not easy to peg" 😏

[@Hunter7023]

Saagar was actually laughed after she said that lol

[@repetemyname842]

R: She better work on her rear naked choke hold...

[@bigtimefirebreather214]

He just won't be still

[@Berdymadafakas]

Lol

[@draklen2244]

Try lube.....

[@muttbuslife1111]

Krystal is so right. This shit drives me crazy. I remember last summer my dad & I getting into a fight because he hates Rogan because he thought he was a Trump supporter based off one thing he heard quoted out of context on MSM but couldn't remember exactly what it was or what the context was. My dad is an MSNBC & CNN addict & they have rotted his brain. My sister also asked last summer why Joe is so popular & influential. As I started to answer my dad just jumps in, "He's an asshole!" Once again, my dad has NEVER listened to a single episode. I continued to tell my sister that Joe is a populist person who will talk to anyone on the spectrum so you get really interesting conversations with fascinating people about diverse topics & the perspectives are never stale because he doesn't only talk to people inside a specific ideological bubble. I also pointed out he is firmly on the Left believing in Universal Healthcare, free education, & a social safety net that provides for everyone's basic needs. The most "Right-wing" thing about him is that he is pro 2nd amendment, but I don't see that as a Right vs Left issue because Marx was also pro 2A & believed the workers should never be disarmed. I'm also a pro 2A Leftist. However like a rational person he is also in favor of background checks & requiring licensing & training for guns. He's also anti-woke culture, which many other Leftists are also against since it's pointlessly divisive & studies show it actually hurts support for the policies we want. He's a pragmatic & realistic Leftist without labeling himself as such because without picking a side he can actually have much more influence in swaying people towards the policies we all want by talking about them as a normal person & not someone pushing their side's agenda. Vanguard just did a video with a clip from Kyle's interview acting like Joe is a centrist who thought poor people shouldn't have as good healthcare & Kyle had to push him to realize M4A was the better system. All because Joe asked how doctor's would be incentivized to excel in their field & if top of the line doctor's could still charge more for their level of service. It's a completely fair question for someone trying to figure out how the system would work or just to find out in more detail how Kyle sees the ideal system working. It's like those guys have never heard of playing devil's advocate. Joe has a diverse audience & interviews diverse people. He was likely asking that question because it has been proposed by other guests or he knows it's something people in his audience would wonder or would be their concern/objection. Giving Kyle the opportunity to make that case to his audience of millions was clearly to support it & not try to prove the potential flaws. I also feel Kyle could've done a much better job of explaining how it could work that wouldn't upset the system Joe is talking about too much. Doctor's could still have private practices, but those people who go to them would have to pay out of pocket. Doctor's could start out in the public system & aspire to become so good in their field that they can leave & start a private practice for the ultra wealthy if they want. Canada still has private practices outside of the nationalized healthcare system. It's not hard. Think of it like plastic surgeons. Many do actual medically necessary work that would be covered by insurance after an accident. Many also do purely cosmetic surgery that people pay out of pocket for. Those doctors make a calculations that they can make more by going into the strictly out of pocket surgery category, and that could still be the case with M4A if they decide they want their private practice to operate outside of the government healthcare system. When someone's career (like pro sports) depends on them getting the best knee surgeon & making sure it goes as good as possible the first time I think it's completely reasonable for them to be able to pay for the highest level care as long as that doesn't directly push anyone out. Now if this were a situation of a lifesaving treatment like a heart transplant I would definitely agree that nobody should be able to pay more to jump to the top of the list or get better care that may be taken from someone else who also needs it to survive.

[@Essentialoils4ujess-weagle]

I actually thought Bernie was a quack till I listened to that entire interview on Joe’s podcast. It’s actually too bad not enough of the other candidates did those types of interviews with him.

[@fishngiggles5272]

Bernie sanders has praise for muderous communist regimes, he’s also a giant hypocrite when it comes to wealth and taxes, but I mean that’s every politician

[@fredschnerbert1238]

I heard Hitler had some good childhood education programs as well, so would Bernie praise him? Bernie actually is a quack...his "numbers" are specious... Ahhh, my brain picked the PERFECT word... spe·cious adjective: specious superficially plausible, but actually wrong. "a specious argument" misleading in appearance, especially misleadingly attractive. "the music trade gives Golden Oldies a specious appearance of novelty" SUPERFICIALLY PLAUSIBLE IS PERFECT!!!! BUT ACTUALLY WRONG.....also , perfect

[@destroctiveblade843]

I really think we should have the discussion after the breaking point for everyone, the people who pay you don't do so because they want to have access to the content, they do it because they want to support you, and some of us are broke and can't afford to pay

[@Rasmusvh1974]

You can listen to "discussion after the breaking point" on the free audio version of the show, so it is still available for everybody, but I do agree that the KZbin video's would be better if they still included the discussion.

[@RobMcGravyTrain]

I feel this. I have bills to pay. But K & S took a huge leap giving up the security of a stable job with health insurance for a self funded private venture. They’re not charging for premium content frivolously. It’s their livelihood. Idk about Saagar but Krystal has children and a family to support. I think they way they do it is really fair. So far there’s no content that’s not available for everybody in at least audio form. Although I do know they plan on doing more long form interviews in the future that will be sub stack exclusively.

[@destroctiveblade843]

@@RobMcGravyTrain yeah but do you support youtubers because you want access to some of their content or because you you just like what they're doing and you think it's worth paying for ? When I used to have money it was the second option for me

[@LostInTheMovies]

@@Rasmusvh1974 Idk, I actually came to check out this video because the audio version got interrupted at this exact same awkward spot. (On audio it cuts to a promo and then goes straught into Saagar's monologue.) Did I miss something - is the full conversation posted somewhere else?

[@Rasmusvh1974]

@@LostInTheMovies The 6/14/21 episode had the reactions, but yes it appears that the recent episode doesn't, so NO you didn't miss something. Anyway I am a bit confused now, because they have said several times that the audio version would have the full show including the debate after "The radars", so It could be a one off/a mistake (Time will tell if it was).

[@drewg4261]

Not where I live, Krystal. Small towns are just as safe as they always were.

[@richardlefaive1944]

Red state cities too for the most part.

[@deezus6926]

lol its a small town crime is not much of a thing there

[@richardlefaive1944]

@@deezus6926 Many smaller areas publish transcripts of heir emergency line calls in the daily or weekly local rag. Its the most entertaining thing I've ever read. An example: "11 PM: Resident at 1234 Bay street called to report noises and suspicious activity on the east side of her garage in the side yard. Officer 2 minutes away was dispatched. Neighbour's 13 year old son was found rummaging among 1234's garbage bins in the dark looking for his dog which had gone missing." I rarely laugh so hard as when reading these columns.

[@WestCoastAce27]

She was clueless on that take. Embarrassingly.

[@NinjaThatLongboards]

"crime is up in virtually every *city* " she's not talking about you

[@karlrussell7398]

When you have $150 million dollars, you can push a little harder, but you want people to know you are with them. Krystal..you are not being honest.

[@numbersix8919]

Go get'em Krystal! Give'em hell! "I don't give them hell. I just tell the truth about them and they think it's hell." - Harry S Truman

[@ajsena1655]

Krystal, you're forgetting something. The left does praise people on the other side. Just like the right celebrates Joe Rogan when he says something center or right-leaning, the left has celebrated people like John Bolton, Liz Cheney, and George Bush every time they say something anti-Trump. This is a reflection on our current political reality. The right tends to focus on ideology, and the left tends to focus on who they hate. The left and corporate media is focused all in on opposing anything Trump, to hell with ideology. And that has led them to praise some of the worst people.

[@Matt-ou7xm]

Those people are liberals, not left. Left is more the Bernie people, not the Biden people

[@richardlefaive1944]

Except ... John Bolton, CHeney, etc. are effectively Democrats. They are part of the establishment duopoly. The terms "left and right" are simply designed to divide the citizenry. In an attempt to distract it from the real divide; the uber wealthy and everyone else. The biggest problem in getting AMerica unified around a common direction for improvement is that the upper middle half of the middle class perceive themselves and their interests as aligned with the uber wealthy ... THAT has been the elites greatest magic trick ... getting the middle class' support when in point of fact the elite suck them dry for taxes to have them pay for ever more disinfo psyop campaigns and programmes designed to further get them to agree to actions that are against their own interests and further screw them over repeatedly. The upper middle class , of which I am one, are the definition of sheeple on the whole.

[@zeaferjones1404]

I really don't get what the Democrats are doing. Do they think George Bush and Liz Cheney for Joe Rogan and Charles Barkley is a good trade?

[@MrAeroaj]

yes, the tracker is at the bottom!!! Something odd while having it on left side when they are both on screen

[@kayvee5286]

I forgot about the fires. Yeah. The fires burning in the cities and the fires in the forest going on at the same time had nothing to do with one another 🤣

[@user-bs1qk2ku7b]

We're in a weird time where most people agree on everything. Media would have you believe we've never been further apart.

[@jaclynmitchell1157]

I wish everyone, including the two of you, would stop making this a "left/right" discussion. There are millions of us that side with things from both sides and think our government is corrupt and we need less of it!!

[@spiritunbound9414]

Your comment clearly demonstrates you didn’t listen.

[@jaclynmitchell1157]

@@spiritunbound9414 I cannot express how appreciative I am that you took time out of your day to share that with me! With such a substantive comment I feel so much more enlightened now.

[@muttbuslife1111]

The whole point of the show is to have a discussion about things from the Right & Left to show where the overlap of populist Right & populist Left can be. You can't break down that barrier while ignoring that it's there.

[@spiritunbound9414]

@@jaclynmitchell1157 I’m glad you feel more enlightened.

[@spiritunbound9414]

@@muttbuslife1111 Bingo! You would think this would be self evident.

[@devonclarke3857]

Joe's Podcast was the "Venue" that got me interested in Politics. I saw a headline for a topic for one of his clips, in it he was interviewing Tulsi Gabbard. Once I heard her thoughts & beliefs I basically watched the entire interview. While I was watching I thought "That is who I want to be my President". And wondered why isn't she more well known and talked about more, etc.

[@Lehmann108]

Tulsi is the real deal. She's a centrist democrat who has been demonized by her own party because she called bullshit in the 2016 election when they were pulling crap to marginalize Bernie, not because she supported Bernie, but because it was just wrong with what they were doing. They stripped her of her committee appointments and removed from power.

[@joshmarden9933]

I liked her too. But she wasn't a corrupt clown with CEO friends so she didn't make the cut in this government mafia apparently. They didn't even include her in several polls on MSM.

[@justinmiller1118]

If only Tulsi didn't sell out and become corrupt 😥

[@mouse11011]

It's fascinating how hard it is for many people to realize that humans are complex. Just because you agree on one point doesn't mean you cant have differing opinions on something else. So you end up worshiping at the altar of KZbin until your favorite talking head says something outside the scope of your reality and all of a sudden it feels like they betrayed you.

[@DavidSalih]

Great segment. PLEASE have your producer compress the audio more so the volume will be more audible and more in line with the audio level of other professional news programs.

[@miken8100]

Joe Rogan is fairly center, has both “left” and “right” views, but more than anything, is anti-establishment (grass roots).

[@GrassValleyGreg]

Rogan is a liberal- he says so himself. The Left Chasing people like Rogan off exemplifies why Trump won in the first place

[@johnwinthrop2702]

How people don't realize this is just beyond me.

[@themadmattster9647]

He’s in the true non corrupt center

[@concrete7830]

He is centre left

[@RealPatrickWebb]

Rogan is for sure way more Left, his only conservative view is on Guns, but he still Let Bernie come on his show and talk about how they need to take away guns, so NO, JOE IS FOR SURE A LEFTY

[@tonybrown512]

I have not watched rogan as much since the move to spotify but I do remember all the shit he got for saying that men should not be able to transition and then go beat up real women in MMA is that really so outrageous?

[@jthom0027]

and he didn't even say it in that way. He said that trans people should be able to compete in sports as long as their opponents know they are trans and agree to the competition, especially in combat sports. I'm all for trans rights and want them to have the same rights as anyone else but Joe was correct with his take.

[@modernmind5872]

Hormones change body structure and strength.

[@bradallard1542]

@@modernmind5872 how wrong you are on a detailed level. The pivot points and angles of joints do not change, the density of bones remains greater than a biological female, as does the greater lung capacity. Yes hormones increase fat deposit, density of muscle and SOME bone density, but only post pubescent density gains. Not to mention the increased density of tendons and ligaments.

[@modernmind5872]

@@bradallard1542 And the effects of testosterone on a female?

[@bradallard1542]

@@modernmind5872 post puberty it does very little.outside of muscle density and some bone density. It does nothing for strength of tendons (some studies show +1% though), it does not change.hip flexor tie in angle or lung capacity, this is why you see so few ftm competitors in strength and explosive power based sports. Now there are more drastic changes pre puberty, but that is a different discussion.

[@twrol]

It’s because he believes men shouldn’t beat up women in the ring, and that is unforgivable.

[@kmowiu]

Very underrated comment

[@randojones2030]

Crime is up across the board but that doesn't mean defunding police has no effect. Even if it didn't initially, once criminal activity rises then having less resources for law enforcement is absolutely a detriment.

[@apoorv35]

This video could alternatively be named "I didn't leave the left, the left left me". Perfect encapsulation of the tolerane we see on the left

[@fredschnerbert1238]

Ronald Reagan, 1962 Diana Walker He may be the patron saint of limited government, but Ronald Reagan started out as a registered Democrat and New Deal supporter. An F.D.R. fan, the Gipper campaigned for Helen Gahagan Douglas in her fruitless 1950 Senate race against Richard Nixon and encouraged Dwight D. Eisenhower to run for President as a Democrat in 1952. While he was working as a spokesman for General Electric, however, his views shifted right. "Under the tousled boyish haircut," he wrote Vice President Nixon of John F. Kennedy in 1960, "is still old Karl Marx." By the time it actually happened in 1962, Reagan's decision to cross over to the GOP didn't come as much of a surprise. "I didn't leave the Democratic Party," he famously said. "The party left me."

[@ohms497]

It's time to REFUND THE POLICE. I want my money back. We aren't getting the behavior we pay for. Get a refund and use that money to deal with economic social issues. Housing, mental health and different solutions for homeless communities.

[@muximus2771]

Why do states who already spend the most on housing and homeless, have less housing and more homeless? Or states that spend less on police have more crime? Hmmm

[@mediatool9596]

@Zero Gravity never, ever gonna happen. And thank God. The wave of criminality that would follow defunding the police would terrify the population beyond belief. Then the only safe ppl would be the billionaires who can afford private security.

[@mrw417]

I like the concept of a refund for badly delivered public service.

[@BRLambert4]

@@mediatool9596 that is already the case. An average citizen is never safe from crime. We can only hope to have justice after the fact, which depending on the crime you are lucky to have a police report filed. The re is little effort put into crime prevention or solving crime. Police are more interested in drug crimes which allow for property forfeitures and prison profits. These types of criminals once released from prison are also very easily manipulated right back into the system. It's a literal Cash cow for police departments throughout the entire country. Please departments have a virtual blank check for investigating drug crimes.

[@ridgewoodgardens6253]

@@mrw417 such as public school teacher’s union member salary

[@fredmason8937]

Saw you guys on Rogan, glad I found you guys!

[@kenxiong6830]

When Krystal and Sanger left The Hill, so did I