M&P 2.0 Compact vs CZ P-10C - If I Could Only Have One...

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KSGunGuy

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@HonestOutlawReviews
@HonestOutlawReviews 7 жыл бұрын
Great video man, the p10c is an awesome gun and the trigger gets even better with more rounds. It's a great excuse to keep shooting!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Well said brother and thank you very much! The Smith has really impressed me but it’s takes a lot to overcome the CZ. Truly a fine gun. Cheers Honest!
@jacobbcox1985
@jacobbcox1985 7 жыл бұрын
I always say S&W with an Apex trigger is perfect for my hand it just fits like a glove. The 2.0 trigger is better but I am one of those guys with a short index finger same length as my pinky so Apex shortens the length for the trigger and it feels perfect. However 2 great guns it's amazing how so many things are great with the current market for pistols from Steyer Glock FN Beretta CZ HK S&W Sig and Fime. This is a golden age for handguns and with such a good aftermarket you get amazing. These guns are so subjective and most will lean to what you probably start with.
@lukekimstories8695
@lukekimstories8695 5 жыл бұрын
What about the mag release/ slide lock? I heard they are both that great on the right side (m&p 2.0 slightly better for slide lock). I'm a lefty with small hands.
@maintenanceman2652
@maintenanceman2652 5 жыл бұрын
I'm left handed and don't have any problems with the slide stop. I just pull the slide back and let her go
@CorneliusFahey
@CorneliusFahey 4 жыл бұрын
Honest Outlaw kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXS9maOBq66Xq80
@tthemonkey8420
@tthemonkey8420 4 жыл бұрын
My first airsoft back in the day as a child was a Smith & Wesson so I have some long time love for it. I chose the CZ because here in Brazil, the M&P is almost double the price of the CZ.
@Michelsen3K
@Michelsen3K 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. m&p 2.0 is about 900 dollars in Switzerland
@areyouready22
@areyouready22 5 жыл бұрын
I use to conceal carry my Glock 19. Now I only carry my M&P 2.0 compact.
@joeyphillips1181
@joeyphillips1181 2 жыл бұрын
I love them both but if I'm being honest the CZ P01 is my favorite lol I carry my CZ P01 9mm a shield + 9mm a full size M&P 2.0 40 with tritium fiber optic sights or M&P 2.0 compact 9mm sometimes even a Glock 23 (40 caliber Glock 19) there all fine handguns
@co1954
@co1954 6 жыл бұрын
Just picked up the P10c...first hundred (reloads) were troublesome, FTE's, ect. 2nd hundred, (same reloads) gun ran flawlessly and was incredibly accurate both times. Love this puppy. The trigger is really quite nice on it. Will be getting and M&P 2.0 compact in around a month....looking forward to owning and shooting both of these firearms. Thanks for the great video!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Glad the P10 worked itself out for you! I agree, both are great guns and you'll enjoy them. Thank you and cheers!
@pghfan97
@pghfan97 7 жыл бұрын
Hey KS, I couldn’t agree more. I love my P10C in fde. I have a m& p 1.0 full size and don’t particularly like an articulated trigger. I appreciate you taking the time to make these comparison videos. I will never get tired of them.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much and glad to do them! Always fun to put good firearms against each other. I agree on the M&P trigger. I think if it was dramatically impreoved, it would be tough to beat. For the time being, the P10 seems to be the champ for the year. Cheers PGH!
@arthurgalaxy701
@arthurgalaxy701 7 жыл бұрын
I chose & bought the M&P. It is superior to the CZ with the exception of the trigger. M&P is more concealable due to shorter grip, very nice stippling, and I can get the web of my hand really high.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
That's awesome Arthur! Both are fantastic for sure and the M&P has really impressed me. Thank you and cheers!
@josearalat
@josearalat 5 жыл бұрын
The trigger is the most important thing for me. What's the difference between the 2?
@99Ironside
@99Ironside 5 жыл бұрын
janibonneil I owed the m&p 2.0 compact and sold it not long after. I have since regretted it. I feel it’s the gun I’ve shot the best(compared to glock and cz p10c). I just didn’t like the hinge trigger and the fact that the trigger breaks a little farther to the rear than the glocks and some others I’m used to. That is what basically fueled my decision to sell it. I just bought a p10c a couple months ago and only have about 500 rounds through it. It’s a great gun but the tigger doesn’t live up to the hype(at least for me). I feel the trigger(break) is a little stiffer than my gen 5 glock 19 or the m&p 2.0. I have every intention to buy the 2.0 compact again. It just felt better in the hand. I liked the grip a lot more compared to the p10c(which feels good in the hand too) but at the end of the day I shot the m&p better.
@josearalat
@josearalat 5 жыл бұрын
@@99Ironside Thanks for your input. I owned the Shield 2.0 and love it. The trigger on that one is better than the Compact and the Full size (in my opinion). Don't like triggers that break too far back.
@alanjones3990
@alanjones3990 5 жыл бұрын
I've carried glocks for years, since there weren't a lot of other options. Because of that I'm so invested in the glock system with holsters and mags that I haven't changed. That being said, I will probably pick up the m&p 2.0 compact just so I can buy and carry American. Good video as usual
@Hunter_Family_2024
@Hunter_Family_2024 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video - the M&P 2.0 for me all day long!
@bradandjenniferm.6246
@bradandjenniferm.6246 2 жыл бұрын
My wife and two sons joined me at the range and they each shot a Glock 19, CZ P10C, and S&W 2.0 compact. All three of them liked the S&W best and the Glock the least. The S&W was the most fun to shoot, the recoil was good, and their groupings with the S&W were best between the three. I took the same test and I liked the S&W the best too, but my groupings were virtually the same as with the CZ. Again, I liked the Glock the least. What I liked least about the S&W was loading the magazine by hand. For some reason, it was harder to load the rounds by hand in the S&W versus the other two. I now use the S&W 2.0 compact as my conceal carry, but I wear a t-shirt underneath, so the aggressive texture does not scratch me. On a separate outing to the range my wife and I shot the Sig Sauer P365 X Macro and the S&W 2.0 compact and we ended up liking the S&W best too. Again, our S&W groupings were better that the X Macro. I've seen the S&W 2.0 compact selling for as low as $399 recently, which is lower than the three other guns, so it is a great value too.
@EnriquetheSquirrel
@EnriquetheSquirrel 10 ай бұрын
Sir, I feel the same way. I own the CZ-P10C and Resently the M&P9 2.0. Even tho the trigger on the CZ feels better my groupings where far better on the M&P9. And on top of that it is more concealable. It's perfect.
@tomd4748
@tomd4748 5 ай бұрын
No way to carry P 10c concealed without everybody seeing the print. It’s a compact, but not small. You’d need a sub compact to pull that off. I have the p10c as a duty weapon- which is what it really is.
@SonotCali
@SonotCali 4 жыл бұрын
Own a cz and loved it from day 1. Just ordered a custom one from Danger close that will be here in about 30 more days 🙌🏾
@CaveWyatt
@CaveWyatt 7 жыл бұрын
Can’t figure out why S&W doesn’t just OEM out their triggers to Apex. To me, the better trigger on the P10c is the only part of the gun that’s better than the M&P. If I had to shoot one regularly I’d get used to the M&P trigger, the P10c just doesn’t feel good to me. Subjective alert warnings apply.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Ain't that the truth Jake! Apex in all Smiths would be awesome! I've taken to the P-10 and it sits well in the hand for me but many share your thoughts on that. Thank you and cheers brother!
@kevinroberts9580
@kevinroberts9580 7 жыл бұрын
I think you should fall out of love with the CZ p10c, and when you do I'll give you my address and you can just send it along.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
I will keep that in mind Kevin! Thank you again and cheers!
@danielhan8995
@danielhan8995 5 жыл бұрын
I'm dead😂😂😂
@Tiny_Outdoors
@Tiny_Outdoors 5 жыл бұрын
Lol 🤣
@CorneliusFahey
@CorneliusFahey 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Roberts kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXS9maOBq66Xq80
@troyvermillion3649
@troyvermillion3649 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Either one and I think you will be satisfied... I got a Black Friday deal on the 2.0 ( S&W) $439 3 mags , mounted crimson trace light, mag loader, and ammo ( critical defense loads) heck of a deal .. great shooting pistol!
@freshfowler1398
@freshfowler1398 7 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on your choice brother! Great professional comparison vid.. thanks KS! Hope all is well 👍✌
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much as always Fresh! Hope all is well with you too brother! Cheers
@PrecisionGunReviews
@PrecisionGunReviews 7 жыл бұрын
This has got to be one of the most difficult "If I Could Only Have One" comparisons there is. These two just feel amazing. Throw in the PPQ and you've got the battle of the perfect grips.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Precision! I agree, very tough to choose. The M&P has really impressed me and if it weren't for the trigger, it may have won. Thank you for watching and cheers!
@mrgoodkat8567
@mrgoodkat8567 7 жыл бұрын
An m&p with an apex trigger all day long. On top of the fact you have after market sight options. Cz has pretty much zero in that category. I will eventually buy one though just to have in the collection. Also, s&w has a compact model with factory night sights. The factory sku # is 11675
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Great thoughts! Thankfully there are a couple of trigger and sight options for the CZ, but the options for Smith are more prevalent for sure. It will be a while before both have wide spread coverage I think. All that said, they are both great guns and a ton of fun at the range. Thank you and cheers!
@shawnm9626
@shawnm9626 7 жыл бұрын
Yess, I've been waiting for this video since you did the initial m&p compact video, and I definitely think you made the right choice. I haven't shot the m&p compact yet but I've played with one at the counter a couple times. I still love my p10 and I've also got around 1000 rounds through mine, the trigger just keeps getting better imo. Great stuff as always dude!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Shawn! Always a pleasure brother. The Smith is 85% of the way there but the trigger really holds it back. I think it needs an Apex and hope to do that at some point but until then, the P10 reigns supreme. I agree, the trigger just keeps getting better. Thank you and cheers brother!
@milehighed52801
@milehighed52801 7 жыл бұрын
Well done review! Thanks for your time and effort doing these "If I only could pick one" reviews. They are enjoyable and informative. I'm also waiting on the sidelines for the P-10C's to be more available and see the price drop some. That said, I'm still waiting to pickup my M2.0 Compact. I wish I got mine at that gun show in NC!!! Ha! At $399 that's a steal! I paid $40 more. Ouch! I already have a M2.0 4.25" Full Size and a 5" in FDE, so the Compact will round out the family. No, I'm not a M&P fanboy, but I must say I'm very impressed with them. The new textured grip, ergos, fit & finish, low recoil impulse, plus a nice build really make this gun a great value. High quality with a reasonable price = VALUE! With that said, I'm not wild about the articulated, extremely curved trigger, but it works. It's miles ahead of the original. The gun is very accurate.....more than I am. However, I see an Apex trigger being installed on each of my M2.0's, eventually. I haven't handled the P-10C yet, which I really would like to do. But for now it's a G19 G4 and the M2.0 Compact as my EDC. They're both great in their own way. I look forward to adding a P-10C down the road. Too many good things have been said about it by so many. Plus, my CZ75 needs some support too!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Milehigh! That’s a great collection of M&Ps and I can see why you like them. The compact has really impressed me and like you, the trigger just needs an upgrade and it will be top notch. I do recommend the P10. It’s been stellar for me since day one and well worth it. Thank you again and cheers brother!
@mitchmorgan8427
@mitchmorgan8427 7 жыл бұрын
I just purchased the CZ P10C and the M&P 2.0 Compact. Although they both feel great, I prefer the CZ. I've been carrying the Glock 19 for sometime and was looking for something that maybe fit my hand a little better, hell I like them all. Just gonna have to spend some more time with them to figure out which one I'm going to carry.
@joshferguson4660
@joshferguson4660 6 жыл бұрын
That is how I felt about my glock 19. I like the size, weight, and capacity, but wanted something that fit my hand better. Maybe a little smaller grip frame. More comfortable wouldn't hurt, but it's not a big deal. Which one of these did you end up liking the most?
@mongothedestroyer88
@mongothedestroyer88 7 жыл бұрын
Own both and love both. It's really hard to choose one because they both fill the role of compact gun so damn well. Can't go wrong with either one.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome Mongo! I completely agree. Thank you and cheers!
@Youngguns173SW
@Youngguns173SW 7 жыл бұрын
Another great vid KS im so Thankful that im blessed to own both cause I cant pick a winner its day by day with me on which is my favorite along with several others.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Youngguns! I agree, both are excellent shooters. If the M&P had a better trigger, I think it would almost too hard to pick one. Thank you and cheers brother!
@dmswccrn03
@dmswccrn03 6 жыл бұрын
Love the “boo” sound effects. Great information. Thanks
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Cheers!
@jayfishandshoot7147
@jayfishandshoot7147 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a CZ fanboy but I'm not a fan of the P-10c. The S&W 2.0 compact is awesome!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
No shame in that Jared! Both are great and the M&P has been surprisingly good, especially in this size. Cheers!
@smokesgtp
@smokesgtp 7 жыл бұрын
I agree. The 2.0 is the best shooter out of the P10C and the G19. Superior ergonomics and feels the most solid. All great guns that you couldn't go wrong with. The price on the 2.0 is the bonus.
@leomelendez9466
@leomelendez9466 5 жыл бұрын
M&p all day...
@EJGentleman
@EJGentleman 5 жыл бұрын
It is nice to have choices. I think and prefer the P-10c. M&P is solid but the trigger and overall setup on the P10C is preferred.
@652barry
@652barry 5 жыл бұрын
M and P for me
@dennisobrien3618
@dennisobrien3618 4 жыл бұрын
It's refreshing to hear someone who doesn't say am-bi-dex-tree-us.
@danzalisnock9128
@danzalisnock9128 4 жыл бұрын
Who does that?
@Bushmaster10MM
@Bushmaster10MM 3 жыл бұрын
@@danzalisnock9128 I've lost count !
@TheWeatherbuff
@TheWeatherbuff 6 жыл бұрын
I got the CZ P10C yesterday in the FDE. The slide-stop and mag release are pretty tight, but I understand they loosen up. This is my first compact pistol. I did really like the full-size S&W 2.0 and that seems to be a fine firearm. As everyone says, it comes down to personal choice, especially with triggers and a few other odds & ends. I did experience the "crunch" with the S&W trigger, but it never really bothered me. I like the CZ trigger on the compact better, but that's just me. We're all different :) Thanks for the great comparison!
@BILLYJAC70
@BILLYJAC70 7 жыл бұрын
I had the CZ P10c and traded it for a S&W 2.0 compact. I just didn't like the CZ as much as I expected to. The trigger on it wasn't as good as my Walther PPQ and it in my opinion is not that out standing to other pistols I still have two older CZs and they are quality pistols. If you have a CZ 10 and like it more power to you ,i was very disappointed in mine.
@TheWeatherbuff
@TheWeatherbuff 6 жыл бұрын
Fred Thomas I grabbed a CZ 75 SP-01 Tac, and I'm sure you'll agree that is a fine firearm. Yesterday (8/29/18) I picked up the CZ P10C and I'm still playing around and cleaning it. I had a S&W 2.0, but the full-size, so this is my first compact. I'm glad you like the S&W... hopefully the P10C will work out for me.
@LiorIPSC
@LiorIPSC 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best things that S&W did with the M&P series is making the palm swells that made the grip thicker. Polymer framed CZs, including the SP01 Phantom, P07 family and now the P10 family, come in just one width and for big handed guys it makes trigger and recoil management more difficult. So after owning lots of guns from both manufacturers, I'd prefer the M&P 2.0 Compact, but that's just me.
@joeyphillips1181
@joeyphillips1181 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I wouldn't pick my M&P over my CZ p01 but I pick my M&P's over Glocks 90% of the time.. CZ & S&W make my favorite handguns
@fumasterchu12
@fumasterchu12 7 жыл бұрын
Another good comparison, and you know I love the P10C. I haven't been able to pick up my new 2.0 compact yet, been working everyday and can't make the trip until tomorrow. I'm not expecting it to be better than the P10C but I got mine for $439 shipped so it was a great deal. Plus, I got in just in time to get the 2 free mags as well. I will do my own comparison but I am expecting the same result as you. lol Have a nice weekend my friend!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome Fu! I’m excited to hear your thoughts on the M&P. It’s been a surprisingly good gun and if the trigger was better, it would be just about a top competitor. Great deal on it also! Thank you as always and cheers brother
@bdm1000
@bdm1000 7 жыл бұрын
I'll also mention that I'm not a trigger snob in the traditional way. For me, the most important thing is the the front sight stays absolutely still when I pull the trigger (and it allows me to pull it fast). Even the latest version of the M&P 1.0 I sold earlier this year was fantastic. I don't I ever dry fired it and saw the sight vibrate. My Glock 33 is almost the same way. My Glock 26 was almost as reliable as the 33, and my G19 was almost as reliable as my 26. I could give a rip about smooth take up. To me that only matters when you're having trouble with front sight disruption. If it's not there, I don't care.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
That makes sense about the front sight. Excellent thoughts brother! Cheers
@hdmoto3875
@hdmoto3875 6 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine purchased CZ and he's having problems with the pin that's right above the mag release button and it comes out while he's shooting, in the mag release button falls out.
@rich4150
@rich4150 7 жыл бұрын
I would have to wait a year or so on both of these to see if any issues come up, hard to say which one as I haven't touched either.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Great point Rich! Hopefully both will have a good track record at that time. Cheers!
@2ndshiftgarage
@2ndshiftgarage 6 жыл бұрын
I have and love the 2.0 Compact...fantastic firearm. I'd probably like the P10C, but I'm gonna stick with the M&P 2.O Series. I like the trigger in mine, and honestly see no reason to change it or do I feel like I'm missing out on anything.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Right on! Both are great guns indeed. Thank you and cheers!
@blakejordan2603
@blakejordan2603 6 жыл бұрын
The smith has a stainless steel slide plus an extra coating so you don’t have to worry about rusting or wear
@roberthartman7130
@roberthartman7130 4 жыл бұрын
Right now you can find the 2.0 compact for $400 in black, the all fde model is a little more.
@Michelsen3K
@Michelsen3K 3 жыл бұрын
Here in Switzerland the M&P 2.0 Compact is about 900 dollars. That's alot and little more compared to other pistols in this price range. So what do you think? Is it worth the price? Thank you
@packpistolarms
@packpistolarms 7 жыл бұрын
I had the 2.0c traded it for czp10c idk why I just like carrying diff guns, and I've carried g26 for over a year, but lately haven't been able to make up my mind, I've carried 8 diff guns in the past 2 months am I crazy?
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Wow! Not crazy, just sounds like you like all Guns equally. Have any favorites? Cheers!
@packpistolarms
@packpistolarms 7 жыл бұрын
KSGunGuy I do love all guns equally as long as they're reliable, glock, Walther cz some of my favorites right now.
@10takespodcast10
@10takespodcast10 5 жыл бұрын
What kind of grenade launcher do you recommend for the CZ?
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Anything 22mm or bigger! Thank you and cheers!
@SylentONE
@SylentONE 4 жыл бұрын
AT4 Micro mod. or PM203 launcher attachment LOL
@miroslavm2553
@miroslavm2553 Жыл бұрын
As a fan of S&W weapons (I have 4 striker fired S&W M&P pistols and 1 S&W rifle) I never planed to get me a CZ. But when I had to send my S&W Metal (aluminum alloy frame) pistol back, I ordered a CZ P-10 C and I can’t tell you how happy I am. CZ P-10 C is by far the best striker fired gun money can buy. I literally love it and I don’t shoot from any of my S&W pistols anymore. I was very disappointed with the issues I have with “Metal” but after all, I am thankful for what happened so I found out how good CZ gun really is.
@brianonthego
@brianonthego 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome job on the review as always. 2 guns I will never see where I live.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you G17! I hope that changes someday soon. Cheers!
@brianonthego
@brianonthego 7 жыл бұрын
KSGunGuy 01 the weather is too nice to leave...
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
I totally get that. Send some my way!
@brianonthego
@brianonthego 7 жыл бұрын
KSGunGuy 01 Ca. Sunshine on the way to KS my friend.
@mobilemechman
@mobilemechman 7 жыл бұрын
Glocked 17 Yes, but the political climate leaves much to be desired. I hope one day you can have both!
@eatsshootsandleavestactica8068
@eatsshootsandleavestactica8068 5 жыл бұрын
Hey I know this is one of your older videos, but could you please do an 'If I could only have one' of the CZ P10c and the HK VP9. Or better yet the CZ P-10S vs the HK VP9SK. I've got my next purchase narrowed down to those two, and they're both so excellent I can't decide. I know it might be splitting hairs at that point, but it would nice to hear your perspective as someone who has had a decent amount of trigger time on each one.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great suggestion! I'll see what I can do, but it may be a while. Lot's of things in line at the moment. Cheers!
@nickmir1
@nickmir1 5 жыл бұрын
I was facing the same question. For my 2 cents, both are awesome, but the edge goes to P-10S, due to mag capacity. The CZ is 12 instead of HK's 10. You can get an extended mag for HK to 13, but the plus 2 on CZ puts it at 14. Plus I like the ergos a bit more. Good luck.
@justinmartinez680
@justinmartinez680 7 жыл бұрын
You guys are so lucky to be able to get any of these handguns i live in california and I can't get shit! I want a ppq! Or anything off of the cali roster really..
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
I wish you could get them as well Justin! Maybe that will change some day. Thank you and cheers!
@getoffmylawn8986
@getoffmylawn8986 7 жыл бұрын
justin M You really need to move back to America.
@markscott8919
@markscott8919 7 жыл бұрын
I used to be a Glock guy (still own a 19), but once I felt an M&P in my hand I fell in love with its ergonomics. Felt SO much better than my G19. But, like so many others (and some comments here), I hated the M&P trigger. I've given a lot of "love" ($$) to Apex Tactical - let's just say. But with the CZ P-10 C, I see no reason (as of now) to do anything other than maybe polish up some of the internals... so I'm leaving it stock. So, all things considered, $499 for the CZ is a much better and cost effective option (IMHO).
@FRamirez1A
@FRamirez1A 7 жыл бұрын
Can you please make an updated video about your p10c? I finally found a FDE in a website that 1776 or bust told me but just before ordering I found ALOT of videos of ppl having ALOT of issues with this pistol. Thanks for your time. Great review as usual.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’ll get something out as soon as I can. I’ll tell you, though, that I have had 0 issues and have owned 3. The fde has about 1250 rounds throughit without a problem and the blacks ones had about 500 each with 0 issues. There are a few out there with backplate issues but CZ has remedied the issue. Hope that helps! Cheers!
@conradmccall5820
@conradmccall5820 4 жыл бұрын
Cz is definitely better than the m&p imo. Neither hold a candle to my caniks though😏 great video man!
@stayvigilant7856
@stayvigilant7856 Жыл бұрын
Is the cz p10 safe to carry!?!! Something about the striker passi g the block!?!?
@mikeross6043
@mikeross6043 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry but the smith beats it out on size , The CZ is just another big compact 9mm like the PPQ and will go on the nightstand or in the safe. G19 size is the largest pistol that I will carry IWB. 2.0 for the win!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing Mike! Agreed, the M&P is a great size for carry. Cheers!
@sonnygunz9207
@sonnygunz9207 7 жыл бұрын
Mike Ross Agree 100%. I have zero need for a gun bigger than a G19. It's the perfect all around size. I wish there were more guns that size. Sure I can carry bigger guns but I don't like to. My 2.0C is going to get a twin brothers! Hell...maybe I'll make them triplets. It's like the Glock in that a want more then one. If you can afford it, it is a good idea to have a second carry gun.
@sonnygunz9207
@sonnygunz9207 7 жыл бұрын
Mike Ross Agree 100%. I have zero need for a gun bigger than a G19. It's the perfect all around size. I wish there were more guns that size. Sure I can carry bigger guns but I don't like to. My 2.0C is going to get a twin brothers! Hell...maybe I'll make them triplets. It's like the Glock in that a want more then one. If you can afford it, it is a good idea to have a second carry gun.
@sonnygunz9207
@sonnygunz9207 7 жыл бұрын
Mike Ross I agree 100%. If the PPQ, VP9, 10c, p320c and the Original M&P would have been the size of a G19...things would have been very different for Glock over the last dozen years I would imagine.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@augreich
@augreich 4 жыл бұрын
I already have the M&P but now I want the CZ P10 C!
@austinsnyder77ol
@austinsnyder77ol 5 жыл бұрын
I want every gun lol
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Amen! Thank you and cheers!
@adamromero
@adamromero 4 жыл бұрын
lol theres too many options, it'd be easier just to get all of em.
@brandonlawson4384
@brandonlawson4384 6 жыл бұрын
I got p 10c love it flat dark earth nite sites from factory nice gun like it better than my glock 19 gen 5
@paulh6101
@paulh6101 7 жыл бұрын
Loved my p10c. Thee best out-the-box pistol on the market. But, after I swapped to an apex trigger shoe and apex USB in my m2.0c, it surpassed my love for the p10c so I sold it. Both are great pistols but I seem to be surgical with M&Ps. Will be buying the p10s as soon as it drops btw...
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Paul! I hear nothing but great things about Apex triggers in the M&P and hope to do that soon. Glad it’s working for you! I hope you’re able to find another P10 soon. Cheers brother!
@douglassalley9117
@douglassalley9117 6 жыл бұрын
As always KS, a great vid., A great group on both guns. I guess that says a lot about your grasp of the fundamentals! I think since May of 2018 I've shot the red out at 7 yards, maybe twice!! I was happy. But I'm one of those who counts holes to see how many shots I actually threw off the target. When I had a large hole and I only counted 46 or more holes I get scared thinking "who would have gotten hurt if I had shot a threat!! looking for 2018 videos with the new camera shots (on the target)
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Douglas! Cheers!
@HowardAssets
@HowardAssets 7 жыл бұрын
Great comparison apples to apples...well done.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin! Cheers
@180SecondIdeas
@180SecondIdeas 7 жыл бұрын
Good work here as always. I'm pretty pumped about trying the 2.0. Keep em coming KSGG!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much brother! I highly recommend it. Cheers!
@alexanderm8880
@alexanderm8880 5 жыл бұрын
How does the stock P10C trigger compare to a fully Apex'ed M&P 2.0 trigger?
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
The M&P Apex trigger is vastly better in my opinion. Thank you and cheers!
@VernonDozier1508
@VernonDozier1508 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I have a 1.0 version of the M&P. Decent gun but not nearly as reliable as my Glock 19. Looking for something a little different and the P10C looks like it might fit the bill.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike! I highly recommend the P-10. It's a fantastic gun. Cheers!
@Nathan-jh1ho
@Nathan-jh1ho 7 ай бұрын
S&W upgraded their trigger, is your opinions still the same?
@OldManStrength2112
@OldManStrength2112 5 жыл бұрын
2 great pistols, but I prefer the P-10C, and my Brand New FDE model was only $389.00
@SylentONE
@SylentONE 4 жыл бұрын
No way!
@tyclark2104
@tyclark2104 4 жыл бұрын
Was it $389 with tax or without?
@augustusheyliger6421
@augustusheyliger6421 6 жыл бұрын
I have both of these pistols...the trigger on the Cz is better...put that grip texture on the 2.0 is Perfect..which I shoot the 2.0 better and that's all that counts correct?...which gun you shoot better?
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
I agree, it comes down to the one you shoot better no matter what else it has going for it. Rounds on target are paramount. Both shoot basically the same for me. Tough to tell the difference between them but I might give a slight edge to the P10. Thank you and cheers!
@seandurns110
@seandurns110 5 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here. Great review. In my opinion, *with the Apex trigger in the M&P* these are the two best polymer guns striker fired guns on the market today. Both are soft shooters and while the M&P might have slightly better ergos and aftermarket support, I personally think the Apex trigger is a must. The P10C is hard to beat of the box-especially trigger wise.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sean! I 100% agree with you, especially on the Apex trigger. It transforms the M&P and is one of my all time favorite triggers. Cheers!
@MarkJ-zp6sy
@MarkJ-zp6sy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your informative reviews! What holster would you recommend to carry the m&p 2.0 compact? Have you found an apex holster that keeps the grip of the pistol high enough above the belt to keep the barrel from digging into your body when seated?
@scottf.3808
@scottf.3808 7 жыл бұрын
A nice pair of guns as nice info...I am a CZ fanboy so thanks for agreeing with me....LOL...I would love to own either one....Good stuff...
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Glad we’re on the same page Scott! CZ has really come into its own brother. Cheers!
@rkba4923
@rkba4923 7 жыл бұрын
I chose the 2.0C primarily because it was an upgrade/update/improvement to an existing proven platform and I think some of the "growing pains" the P10C is currently experiencing justifies my choice. Don't get me wrong, I own a CZ P01 and RAMI, so I'm not a CZ hater by any means! There were other reasons too but they're all subjective such as I just liked the looks and feel of the 2.0C a bit better; I could, and did, buy a companion M&P22 for it; seemed like more accessories etc available than the "new" P10C; , etc. etc. But, each to his own. I'm just glad more and more Americans are arming and training up to represent a clear and present danger to any nutcase or jihadist that wants to shoot up innocent people. Wish our criminal governments weren't unlawfully denying us our right to bear SBRs because we'd all be much more effective (accurate), and thus safer, with them than these short barreled pistols they're unlawfully restricting us too!
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Great stuff RKBA! I agree, there are definitely growing pains with the P10, though I seem to have gotten lucky with mine. The 2.0C is a rockstar indeed! I too wish we could more easily SBR rifles. Cheers!
@marclarrea7330
@marclarrea7330 6 жыл бұрын
Great post, RKBA.
@JAmes-no4yk
@JAmes-no4yk 5 жыл бұрын
I am at a crossroads... im just starting my handgun collection, but for the life of me I cant decide which route I want to go first. im trying to decide between a glock 19 MP M2.0c, P320, of cz P10c. I WANT THEM ALL.. but my wallet barely wants one lol, so far I think im leaning towards the m2.0c but really im still unsure, any tips on how I can more narrow down my choice? im going to my local range in a few days on their discounted rental day to try them all out
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
I think you are doing the right thing and trying them all out at the range. It’s a great way to find the one that fits you the best. Thank you and cheers!
@antonio47291
@antonio47291 4 жыл бұрын
am about to get p10c this new year🙏🙏🙏
@yondel-kttkoh3948
@yondel-kttkoh3948 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice review. CZ P-07 and P-10 are on my list first then the M&P 2.0 Full Size.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
That’s a great list! All are great guns and the CZs are really hard to beat. Thank you for watching and cheers Firearms!
@TswanaPrepper
@TswanaPrepper 7 жыл бұрын
I picked up the M&P 2.0 Compact for $442 off Gunbroker but it seems you can find it for as low as $419.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Great price for a great gun. Cheers
@mick_1976
@mick_1976 5 жыл бұрын
From a standpoint standpoint I'll take the Smith;)
@be350ka
@be350ka 4 жыл бұрын
What standpoint swayed you? I think there are some standpoints that out way other standpoints.
@mick_1976
@mick_1976 4 жыл бұрын
be350ka I agree. There are some standpoints that are more important than other standpoints but from my standpoint he did an excellent job of weighing each standpoint against the other standpoint.
@alexanderm8880
@alexanderm8880 4 жыл бұрын
Please do an IICOHO with the AREX Delta and Glock 48! They're almost the exact same in size. The Delta has a pic rail but Glock has aftermarket. Should be a good match up!
@maxvonmuller7967
@maxvonmuller7967 7 жыл бұрын
I love the p10c but it does not have the aftermarket support the smith does. When trijocons starts making sights for it I will be happy.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Amen to that Max! Hope we will see those soon. Cheers!
@InSightFreedom
@InSightFreedom 7 жыл бұрын
Another very thorough comparison. Well done. #CZM4L
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much InSight! Cheers brother
@mac83827
@mac83827 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Sorry if you’ve answered this 1000x.. but at what distance are you shooting? Looks like 10 yards? You shoot very well!
@MrHav1k
@MrHav1k 4 жыл бұрын
The P10C doesn't have a firing pin safety, so it's significantly less safe to carry than every other option in it's class. Look up the videos online. The firing pin block on that gun may as well not exist.
@debel101
@debel101 2 жыл бұрын
Been proven false
@louiesniner
@louiesniner 7 жыл бұрын
I’ll have to agree on your decision. I’ve owned plenty of pistols over the years. Sig 226, Glock 23, IWI Jericho, Ruger P90, and CZ P09, and the P10C. By far, my CZ’s have never failed me. They’re priced right and have some of the best shooting characteristics of any pistol I’ve had or shot. The P10C is just an amazing pistol. I wish more people would broaden their perspective on manufacturers. Right out of the box, the P10C is just perfect. No need to do custom stippling or change out the trigger like other people like to do with their Glocks. Overall, the best compact pistol on the market!
@Docholidey
@Docholidey 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I would like to see a springfield XDM in the comparisons,, no one seems to want to do anything with them.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lane! I think since Springfield took a negative stance towards gun rights, reviewers are staying away. Perhaps that will change sometime down the road! Cheers brother
@Docholidey
@Docholidey 7 жыл бұрын
I understand that, i am just curious as I am heading overseas to work for a few years and the firearms choices where I am going are limited, but they include the HS-9 which is the xdm without the springfield name.. i am likely to stick with the cz p-07 if i can get it there though..
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Truthfully it’s a good gun. Decent ergos and a good trigger. I think you’ll be happy with it or the CZ. Hope that helps!
@shermdog6969
@shermdog6969 7 жыл бұрын
I know I'm staying away from them.
@Osprey1994
@Osprey1994 6 жыл бұрын
Curious about this whole stainless steel corrosion deal. I would expect for there to be none with a good stainless steel as long as you make sure to keep it out of excessively moist environments. Maybe people by the ocean where I have seen special steels like the ones in the Spyderco Salt knives used?
@fitlyfenutrition6224
@fitlyfenutrition6224 5 жыл бұрын
If my life depended on it I’d choose m&p
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
@CorneliusFahey
@CorneliusFahey 4 жыл бұрын
Fit Life Kam Wise choice. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXS9maOBq66Xq80
@terrylybolt5485
@terrylybolt5485 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video joy that very much
@SEAKPhotog
@SEAKPhotog 5 жыл бұрын
Great reveiw. I recently bought both and really can't decide which I prefer. The cz feels better in hand and I like the trigger more but I think I shoot the SW a little better, go figure.... Time will tell which one I keep or if I just keep them both. 😉
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
I vote keeping both! Thank you and cheers!
@SEAKPhotog
@SEAKPhotog 5 жыл бұрын
@@KSGunGuy01 Right? That's more than likely what I'll do 😉
@HeirWolfenstein
@HeirWolfenstein 5 жыл бұрын
I have the P10C, the M&P9 and a CanikTP9SF. I choose the Canik any day and every day!
@Rev103090
@Rev103090 7 жыл бұрын
local gun show in Hickory , NC has MP 2.0 compact for $399
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
That's a steal! Thank you for sharing and cheers!
@ert-7112
@ert-7112 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Do you know if the apex trigger for the M&P change the trigger pull or the trigger reset? Thanks
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you ER! Great question. I’m not sure on the M&P but hope to find out soon. On Glocks, it does change the overall feel and shorten both the uptake and reset but only slightly. I imagine it will be similar on the M&Ps. Cheers brother!
@ert-7112
@ert-7112 7 жыл бұрын
KSGunGuy 01 Thanks, yesterday I saw a video on KZbin from Honest Outlaw Review chanel, where he compared the G19 gen5, M&P 2.0 compact and the CZ P10c, and he chose 1 M&P, 2 CZ P10c and 3 G19 gen5
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
I saw that! Great video and one of my favorite channels. Really cool guy!
@nhanhuynh9525
@nhanhuynh9525 3 жыл бұрын
How about I just bought both of them at the same time.
@KENAHIGHLANDER
@KENAHIGHLANDER 5 жыл бұрын
I had both and sold the CZ P10C once I put the Flat Apex in the M&P it was the winner for me. It prints less than the CZ in my case. Both are excellent.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
@mobilemechman
@mobilemechman 7 жыл бұрын
I do love a good trigger, however, with good grip fundamentals the quality of the trigger pull matters much less. As long as the front sight doesn't move when you break the shot, trigger quality doesn't matter....to a point. I own a PPQ and I really enjoy that trigger at the range, but my G23, G26, and now my M&P 2.0 compact beat it out for everyday carry for a number of reasons even though the trigger on the PPQ dominates the others as far as feel. I think if most people would get quality instruction and practice more, trigger pulll would be less of an issue and people would get more satisfaction from their abilities. That being said, I do wish my local gun shops would carry CZ so I could at least have another option. Keep up the good work!
@rustybuckets1466
@rustybuckets1466 5 жыл бұрын
I have both and I'm more accurate with my canik elite ,even with the evil high bore axis.I paid 359 for the 2.0 and 379 for the P10 .Slick guns has the dest prices that I can find .
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
@mjcandy9153
@mjcandy9153 7 жыл бұрын
Do you live in a ban-state or something because you don't fire more than 10 rounds in a single mag?
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the question Mike! No, I just like 10 rounds at a time at the range. Easier to keep track of so my OCD stays happy. Kansas is a very free state. Cheers!
@bobmathews4557
@bobmathews4557 6 жыл бұрын
The grip on the M&P Compact is amazing! I purchased it based on that fact alone. The rest of the gun did not disappoint. The sights and accuracy are excellent. The trigger is very similar to a Glock. Not great but not bad.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
@josearalat
@josearalat 5 жыл бұрын
"The trigger is very similar to a Glock. Not great but not bad." That sentence says a lot. For the price both this companies ask for their products and the demand these guns have, they should definitely have better triggers, which to me is the most important thing in a self defense weapon.
@johnganshow5536
@johnganshow5536 5 жыл бұрын
The CZ P10 C fits in Glock holsters?
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Some, yes. Thank you and cheers!
@johnganshow5536
@johnganshow5536 5 жыл бұрын
@@KSGunGuy01 I'm not really liking my Gen 5 G19. So, may trade it in for the CZ, I believe they are similar size pistols...
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 5 жыл бұрын
Similar, but the P10 is a hair bigger.
@johnganshow5536
@johnganshow5536 5 жыл бұрын
@@KSGunGuy01 Thanks, I think I've decided on the M&P 2.0 C maybe have an Apex trigger installed...
@fitop.7468
@fitop.7468 7 жыл бұрын
I like the S&W over the P10C because it has a longer track record for reliability the P10c is to new I think it's not perfect yet I seen some bad reviews on them. I own two S&W 1.0 5" pro and a 1.0 compact 9mm
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
That’s a great collection Fito! I hear you on the track record. I think we need to give it more time but I have hopes it will keep performing. I’m about 1000 rounds into mine without an issue and hoping that continues! Thank you and cheers!
@johndoee3850
@johndoee3850 Жыл бұрын
Both are great 👍 Smith 4 me.
@redsquadace
@redsquadace 7 жыл бұрын
for a CCW or Combat pistol, I would choose the m&p compact m2.0. maybe the "gen 2" p10c will get a second look from me, but right now there are too many problems with the new platform. I sold my p10c, will be buying another m&p compact m2.0. hoping the gen 2 p10c gets the p07/p09 expansive trigger guard.
@paulburns3165
@paulburns3165 5 жыл бұрын
I actually want both. I take donations. 😄 Maybe Santa will be nice to me this year.
@andybaker1784
@andybaker1784 5 жыл бұрын
Same here. I went to the local pistol and pawn this morning and compared them side by side. I couldn't pick one over the other so I bought the CZ and put the M&P on layaway. Problem solved!!
@albertsilva4057
@albertsilva4057 6 жыл бұрын
Would you think a mp 3.6 with apex would best out a p10 for cc?
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Either one would be great! Thank you and cheers!
@TheSuperDmyers
@TheSuperDmyers 7 жыл бұрын
It’s just torture living in CA seeing this. What do you think about the M&P with the Apex forward set trigger vs the CZ P10C?
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
Great question Dallas! They are very well matched with the 2.0 having the Apex. I may have to give it to the Smith with the Apex. That trigger is tough to beat. Thank you and cheers!
@markd7762
@markd7762 6 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that misses that nice beaverail from the 1.0?
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
I think many do! Thank you and cheers!
@GOBUCS82
@GOBUCS82 5 жыл бұрын
That 1.0 beaver tail is terrible for concealed carry unless you are using a shoulder holster. In my opinion the 2.0 beaver tail is perfect, It protects your hand and Doesn't stick way out like a spike.
@arblake50
@arblake50 7 жыл бұрын
Grab a gun has 2.0 compact’s for $395.00 right now.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! Thank you and cheers
@devildog6899
@devildog6899 7 жыл бұрын
A pistol is a tool 32 years as a and 15 years as a Firearms Instructor I've got to shoot a lot of Pistols. Carried a Ruger 357 until the Depart approved semi autos Carried sig p220, a p228 and a p229, for 12 years I carried a Springfield Marine Corps Operator 1911 loved it. I just couldn't like Glock felt like a chunk of wood the grip ergonomics sucked sorry glockfans, Then my last 4 years I carried a Smith and Wesson 9mm as at that point a lot of cops were getting killed and I wanted a high Capacity pistol. I'm now retired and I have two S&W shields one in 9mm and one in 45 they shoot well and conceal very nice, But I'm now looking for a compact with 17rd mags I'm liking the CZ a lot. Again it's tool and I use the tool well. Also as a side note I shot on the State Police pistol team for 4years, my partner and I took first for the two man expert team at Des Moines National Police revolver championships.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
An amazing history and I thank you for sharing! Thank you and cheers!
@josearalat
@josearalat 5 жыл бұрын
I hope you didn't made your police reports the way you wrote this. Now that you are retired, take the time and learn how to write.
@xavm3176
@xavm3176 4 жыл бұрын
@@josearalat you're big mad
@roberthelvick4939
@roberthelvick4939 6 жыл бұрын
Can you make a comparison to the M&P 2.0c against the P320c please
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
I'll do my best! Thank you and cheers!
@roberthelvick4939
@roberthelvick4939 6 жыл бұрын
KSGunGuy thanks I would appreciate it
@roberthelvick4939
@roberthelvick4939 6 жыл бұрын
KSGunGuy any luck with the comparison? Just looking for your input before I purchase one next weekend please
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Helvick do you have the option to rent at a range? That’s my best suggestion for you so you can determine which feels and shoots better for you. For me, it’s the M&P. The ergos are awesome and if you put an Apex trigger in it, it would be very tough to beat. Hope that helps!
@roberthelvick4939
@roberthelvick4939 6 жыл бұрын
KSGunGuy ok thanks again
@jasontrotta6630
@jasontrotta6630 7 жыл бұрын
Does it come in pink?
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
+Jason Trotta why yes, yes it does.
@96stealth
@96stealth 7 жыл бұрын
I don’t own either but have shot both. The 1st time I picked up the 2.0 at the store I was pretty amazed. Grip and trigger were definitely improved. Shooting it though left me wanting more. I wouldn’t hesitate owning one, but it didn’t stand out over current guns that I own. The P10c was also great. The grip texture didn’t bother me like most people. The trigger was fantastic. On par with the Canik TP9 which in my opinion is the best on the market. The only complaint I had was the front sight was to dim. To me the CZ also wasn’t worth buying, because the only advantage to me over the Canik was ergos. Not worth the extra $150sh. My carry gun is the Steyr M9. I may consider a newer version of the CZ assuming most of the early issues are resolved. Though I’ve heard CZ is doing a good job with customer service.
@KSGunGuy01
@KSGunGuy01 7 жыл бұрын
First, the Steyr is awesome and I see why you carry it! It's been a fun gun to review and shoot. They seem to be getting more popular which is awesome. As for the other two, both are great shooters and I agree with you that the CZ ergos are fantastic. Is it worth the extra for it... depends on the buyer I suppose. In the end, great choices we have out there! Thank you and cheers!
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