KTM 790 Adventure R Review - Top 5 things you should know before you buy

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TheMissendenFlyer

TheMissendenFlyer

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@fredrikgoransson6963
@fredrikgoransson6963 5 жыл бұрын
I have this bike and agree with you on all points. Worst: The windscreen. It is really bad, but it is easily fixed. Best: Suspension. Offroad/gravel roads is where this bike belongs. The immediate confidence you get to push a higher tempo surprised me a lot. The brakes are very good too. It has a tall ride height but shorter guys like me (I'm 168cm) have no problem handling it with standard seat and suspension settings.
@szatanica1
@szatanica1 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve just finished the test ride on the S version and I’m really super surprised! It feels sooooo light I couldn’t belive it. Comparing to F850GS it’s like a gazelle to an elephant! Lowering the tank was brilliant. The ride was super smoooth, it had no issues at alll (i’ve reached 160km), I had double the confidence on dirt (and the bike had regular road tires), the seat was lowered so I had just enough hight to be comfortable (although If I was to buy it I would still use the lowering kit as I’m 165cm). Hight shield protected very well from the wind although I had the same issue as you did with the beak on my helmet, handlebards are very big, great TFT display, great breaks, and the engine is brilliant, so super smooth, I love the KTM roaring sound on the low end. The gears are great, not to long, not too short, setting up the mirrors can be done with one finger (as opposed to GS, which requires a lot of force), it has a navigation mount and a cigarette plug. I do have however these issues: - standing position is just nightmare! The pegs are too highly placed and too close to the bike, the seat is too wide which causes me to round my legs and bend my knees like I’m on a horse. This will not work for a long offroad ride, no chance. Also the hight of the handlebars are too low for standing: I was bowing like I was going for a confession. Risers needed asap. How are you tall guys are handling it, I don’t know... - the suspension is hard as a brick. And it’s not adjustable (on version S!!, R is adjustable) so it will need some money to set this up the way I’d like it - the seat is a wooden paddle, seriously. I cannot imagine seating on it for 300-400km, not in this lifetime - the heat from the engine goes straight into the sides of your legs, and it was bothering me, even though it was only 20 deg. C outside! I can’t imagine what happens when I go to Georgia or Middle East and it’s 40...! O_o Those issues can be real problems as I don’t see a simple way of overcoming those, and the bike already is very pricey, so these could be deal breakers for me. I’m looking forward to 390 ADV. It could be a game changer, although I must say 790 has enormous amount of potential.
@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449
@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 5 жыл бұрын
I'm only 5,5 mate and not to many bikers I have ever been able to touch ground , I do Heaps of off road riding in Aus , trick is " don't stop " and if you have to bail off in style,
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Liking your style!
@funn104
@funn104 5 жыл бұрын
another thing is that the KTM 790R really handles being stacked well. ive taken mine on some pretty good trails and dropped it a few times. most damage ive done is snapped the very tip off the clutch lever. which i actually prefer slightly shorter haha
@bobmcgrath1272
@bobmcgrath1272 3 жыл бұрын
@@funn104 that’s a sign of a true off-road bike...crashes well 👍
@FanOWater
@FanOWater 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 5'8" with a 29" inseam and I've got about 500 miles in the dirt on my 790R. That means one foot only everywhere. Just pick your stopping location and you'll be fine. It is a steller Adv bike in the dirt. Cheers
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yes off road I imagine it’s great - sadly I’m not much of an off road rider, the non “R” would have been much better for me...thanks for watching and for stopping by...TMF
@chrisalioto8552
@chrisalioto8552 4 жыл бұрын
Do they offer a low seat?
@FanOWater
@FanOWater 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisalioto8552 Both KTM and Seat Concepts have seats that lower the height by 1" or 2.5 cm.
@christaylor491
@christaylor491 5 жыл бұрын
Like the new graphics TMF and the rear facing camera. It just gets better! 👍😁
@Greggspies
@Greggspies 5 жыл бұрын
Great review any chance you could test the Tenera 700
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
I hope so - just a matter of having one being made available to me!
@MDanceInc
@MDanceInc 5 жыл бұрын
Had my 790 R two months. Have 1800 miles on it. It is now leaking oil out the drive shaft seal. Already got crashed into by an idiot riding a side by side atv down the highway. He crashed me but I didn’t get seriously hurt. $800 in damage to the bike. Fixed it already. I love the bike though. It really comes alive above about 4300 rpm. I don’t mind the seat. I have done 4 hours in the saddle at one time and didn’t experience any discomfort. Getting 61.5 MPG. Avg. using ethanol free supreme gas.
@teneretraveller8980
@teneretraveller8980 5 жыл бұрын
Your honesty is refreshing, and appreciated. Continue por favor. Happy travels.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching TT!
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 5 жыл бұрын
KTM's tech is pretty groundbreaking in areas but I gotta say that the more reviews I see on the new dual sport/ADV bikes, the more I love my archaic 2018 KLR650.
@paulthompson8613
@paulthompson8613 3 жыл бұрын
New KLR650 coming soon
@pinkiewerewolf
@pinkiewerewolf 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulthompson8613 Yep, it looks pretty sweet!
@Matt43
@Matt43 5 жыл бұрын
790 Adv R will be my next bike, no questions!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoy!
@PovilasPanavas
@PovilasPanavas 5 жыл бұрын
It's a bit unusual that multiple reviews claim engine it to be vibey, and multiple to be very smooth. It can't be both! :)
@johnward3490
@johnward3490 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent the info most people need from a review cheers 👍
@garypunter412
@garypunter412 5 жыл бұрын
Just as we expect from you TMF, informative, to the point and always helpful. Love the videos. If you ever want to do a used bike test on an R1150R BMW readers bike, give me a shout. I have a 2002 on a 51 plate with 33k miles. Be good to show people some of the now much more affordable BMW boxer bikes. Keep up the great work 👍🍻
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words Gary and for the offer...
@rolandbarzegar4667
@rolandbarzegar4667 5 жыл бұрын
Loving the new animations on your videos TMF, nice design. "Pants Windscreen" was my favourite comment!
@jamessuttie1261
@jamessuttie1261 5 жыл бұрын
Can someone translate for a Canuck. What does Pants Windscreen mean?
@rolandbarzegar4667
@rolandbarzegar4667 5 жыл бұрын
James Suttie “Pants” = rubbish, crappy, useless etc
@Hodmeister
@Hodmeister 5 жыл бұрын
I hope Mr Lamb Chops approves of the use of different camera angles :-) Joking aside it is good to see you on the bike as well, great stuff :-)
@LambChopRides
@LambChopRides 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I do 😁
@Banditmanuk
@Banditmanuk 5 жыл бұрын
Great review, not a bike for shorties then. I've been following the round the world adventures of Rossa G and two of his companions are riding KTMs; 790 Adventure and 1290 Super Adventure. Both the KTMs have mechanical issues and both ended up on a truck in Mongolia heading to a dealership to be fixed. Rossa's basic CB500X keeps rolling.
@jonathangriffiths2499
@jonathangriffiths2499 5 жыл бұрын
KTM is the Landrover of bikes . Nice idea but never trust them in a potentially life threatening spot
@Banditmanuk
@Banditmanuk 5 жыл бұрын
@@Manuel-qu3tc The review is of the R, says it in the title
@jimenagulla9081
@jimenagulla9081 5 жыл бұрын
@@1990-t1j I'm guessing you've never owned a ktm, just another hater, let me guess, your a tenere 700 fan, my 790R has been flawless, no problems whatsoever , and i trust it everyday, imagine that......
@veranagroup4476
@veranagroup4476 5 жыл бұрын
Please can you direct me to the Rossa G channel you mention please!
@MeanGreenList
@MeanGreenList 5 жыл бұрын
790 Adv R owner ... Also have a 1200GS WC and several dirt bikes. The 790 fits my needs perfectly. The GS is a bit heavy for the technical offroad riding and it always felt more like work than fun when going on a BDR or small trails. I am still in awe how well the GS does off road but it has its limits. I can't say anything negative about the 790. Yes, there have been reports about some issues. However, there isn't a 1st year bike where there aren't any issues. Even my GS had problems when it was new. Anyone who buys a bike and doesn't expect some problems is kidding themselves. Luckily I haven't had anything yet. To talk about the hight ... I never gave it any thought with any of my bikes. All dirt bikes are very tall. The 790 is tall but that's not an issue. I'm 5'10 (177cm) and it's not a problem at all. The low windscreen doesn't bother me either. I have zero buffeting with my Arai XD4 helmet. The wind hits me but there is no buffeting, so it's not a problem. I ride with earplugs anyway. I wouldn't use the taller windscreen because of all the offroad riding and it would get in the way. For what I do, it's great. Also, if I did mostly highway riding, I would have bought the non R version with the taller screen. But I agree that it would have been nice to have an adjustable screen like the GS, which can be used on the go. The bike handles a lot better on the road than I expected and is a lot of fun. The engine pulls hard and since the weight is only around 200kg, it is very agile. For hard off road riding I need to get better tires as the stock rubber isn't great. I am very happy with my addition and you can't go wrong with a 790.
@anymouse6202
@anymouse6202 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review Mr. Flyer!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@RutgerSmets
@RutgerSmets 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another video Mr Flyer!
@iwanevans100
@iwanevans100 5 жыл бұрын
Test rode both the 790 Adventure R and the BMW F850 GS Rallye and found the GS much more refined for touring with some off-Road riding also the price was basically the same after the add on’s!
@axellness
@axellness 5 жыл бұрын
T7 next please. You are the voice for us short guys 🙏
@FranciscoSchwartz9
@FranciscoSchwartz9 5 жыл бұрын
Great review as always👌
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@paulcollins7185
@paulcollins7185 5 жыл бұрын
Nice review Flyer, thanks for the info'....was actually having a more than interested look at this bike as well as the Tenere 7 which I'm interested in as well. All the best. "PC!"
@disekjoumoer
@disekjoumoer 5 жыл бұрын
All off-road biased bikes are tall. The way people ride them, even shorter riders, is to slide your backside out and down towards your favoured standing leg. Keep the bike in gear when you stop. Try it. And I still don't know why you tested the R version and not the standard version. You do almost no off-road.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed - unfortunately I got what bike KTM gave me, I didn’t have the choice....I certainly would have preferred the more road oriented bike...
@disekjoumoer
@disekjoumoer 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer OK, that makes sense. If you get a chance, try the standard one. It's a lot more user friendly.
@richardscott982
@richardscott982 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta learn the "Captain Morgan" pose! I slide a butt cheek off whichever side is higher and stand comfortably on 1 foot. I am 5'8" and ride a Buell Ulysses XB12R which I can barely tiptoe both feet.
@MGLkiwi2008
@MGLkiwi2008 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! (Regarding the off-road technique.)
@abbasphoto-video
@abbasphoto-video 3 жыл бұрын
What is on your left hand/gloves?
@chrisa7237
@chrisa7237 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review as always. You raise some points that people need to think about for sure. I'm exactly the same height as you, 5'8 X 32" leg - the 790R definitely isn't too tall for me. You were wearing sports bike boots. Wear some adventure boots and there's 1/2" on both legs for starters. In an ideal world you ought to comment on off-road use after you've been off-road on it really. Pop to Sweet Lamb and you'll have a blast! These bikes aren't 'road only' bikes. Don't buy the R if you want a road bike as there are better bikes to buy. But if you want a road/off-road, go pretty much anywhere bike, in comfort, then get the R - it's as close to perfection as currently possible for a dual sport. A brilliant, playful, capable bike. They do need engine bars and a bash plate though!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
...and a taller windscreen...
@stuartmorton662
@stuartmorton662 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I just bought one... 34” inside leg and 6’3”....I have the S screen and I wear the same Arai and still get buffeting.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
I find the MRA Varioscreen is an excellent solution - I wonder if they make one to fit?
@gdscheiwe01
@gdscheiwe01 5 жыл бұрын
Great series of videos on the 790 TMF. Any chance that you will have a chance to do a counterpoint with the standard Adventure?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Unlikely I would think...
@gdscheiwe01
@gdscheiwe01 5 жыл бұрын
Ah the trials and tribulations of the busy motovlogger. I guess I can forgive you😉
@fatpigeonadventurerider2118
@fatpigeonadventurerider2118 5 жыл бұрын
Great review, 2 questions 1 how does it compare to the Africa twin? 2 what’s it’s mpg and tank range?
@robertwbeams9929
@robertwbeams9929 5 жыл бұрын
Seems to me that only those with an inside leg substantially more than your 32" will be happy with this machine. Stop on an incline or a camber and you've dropped it! Is it only me that thinks that engine /transmission noise is rubbish? Bag of nails comes to mind. Which of course KTM powertrains are not. Possibly better offroad (with knobblies) than BMW, but not for me. Enjoyed the ride as always 😊
@peakrider4886
@peakrider4886 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks TMF for the review. When riding through a series of left and right bends, corners, or roundabout, doesn’t the swishing petrol in those fuel tanks cause any instability? You would have through the weight of the fuel would have some sort of gyroscopic effect being moved from side to side.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
I imagine as you lean into a corner in balance the fuel tank still experiences positive G and therefore stays level...same reason you don’t fly off the bike to the left when you turn right on a bike...
@wickedcoolname399
@wickedcoolname399 5 жыл бұрын
Greetings mr. Flyer. I am missing the right side plastic panel for my Triumph t120.it's just the black plastic panel that says t120 in gold letters on the panel and the inside houses that little tool for adjusting the rear shocks. I seem to have misplaced mine and I was wondering if you or any of your audience might know where I can source one.
@jegatkinson
@jegatkinson 5 жыл бұрын
Great round up on a cracking bike but as you pointed out “not for shorties” I really wanted one and so did a 2 day off road course with KTM at their centre and at the end of it was amazed by how good it was off road but even at 5’9 I just felt it wouldn’t give me the confidence with that seat height. The other seat from the Adventure S only lowers you 10mm, not enough really. In the end I went 850 GS Adventure with the lower seat and just love it. Have just ridden her from Hants to Barcelona via the South of France and she took it like a champ. Keep up the great Vids 👍
@psolli
@psolli 5 жыл бұрын
Jamie Atkinson w
@donlopez3185
@donlopez3185 5 жыл бұрын
Good review, and I found the high speed buffeting is worse with the R screen in the high setting than low. The S screen in the high setting is much better. I ordered a R/G rally screen (I like the looks and space for GPS that won’t block the TFT while standing), hope it works as good as the S screen for wind protection. And Cruise Control is awesome!
@SickBikeDude
@SickBikeDude 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid! An adventure bike will be my next bike. But I’m guessing the seat isn’t all that comfortable, considering its KTM?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Correct!
@boltddancer
@boltddancer 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 6 5 so this would be perfect for me.
@daneras82
@daneras82 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Missenden. I don't know if i'm false, but i think it is not a V-twin, it's the same motor as in the 790 duke, it's a R-twin (two cylinders in a row). Excapt of that detail, it's a brilliant video, as all of you. Greetings, Daneras (KTM 1290 Super Adventer to > Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT)
@jimenagulla9081
@jimenagulla9081 5 жыл бұрын
As far as the wind screen is concerned, you do need a torx wrench to adjust it, although a company has already come out with a knob you can turn by hand, I adjusted mine to its upper setting and it does a good enough job, even at 75mph to not be of great concern for me. I guess it depends where your riding experience is coming from. If your used to big cruisers or adv bikes with large screens and fairings it would seem like a lot of buffeting.
@pistolpete6321
@pistolpete6321 5 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you as ever Pete....
@pistolpete6321
@pistolpete6321 5 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFlyer thank you for all you do to provide us viewers with superb content week in and week out!
@Ryansanders80
@Ryansanders80 4 жыл бұрын
I rarely ever put a foot down off-road. I’ll find a tree and lean the bike into it, other than that I thank my trials riding
@glenwhyte2555
@glenwhyte2555 5 жыл бұрын
Not taking the wotsit but was it a brighter day than it appeared as i noticed you had dark glasses on when you lifted the tinted visor ? Another enjoyable insight 👍 thanks TMF
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
I tend to always where sunglasses when I ride ...
@shuveshek
@shuveshek 5 жыл бұрын
Whats the intercom that you are using ?
@chojindan
@chojindan 5 жыл бұрын
Hi TMF - the 790 Adv R is currently top of my shortlist, so your vids are very well timed. Are you able to tell me how much vibration you get through the handlebars? And how comfortable is the seat?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Didn’t notice any significant vibration - seat is typically KTM!! (ie not the most comfortable out there)...
@chojindan
@chojindan 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks for the quick reply! Keep up the great content :)
@heisnotlongbutthin
@heisnotlongbutthin 5 жыл бұрын
Wheter or not you will mind the vibrations depend on what you are used to. In my expierience only people who are used to the refined smoothness of 4 cylinders, especially the suzuki kind, will have trouble ajusting to the little vibrations modern KTMs still produce. So what have you been riding so far?
@mitchellboyd5256
@mitchellboyd5256 4 жыл бұрын
Hi mate i was just wondering how many miles to a tank you get out of this bike?
@quentinrance8974
@quentinrance8974 5 жыл бұрын
Good review, thanks. Might be moving to Germany for 3 years (from the States) and considering buying a 790 Adventure. In two weeks of owning it, how well do you think it would perform as a daily rider? Ultimately, I'd like to bring it back home when I'm done working Germany. I have looked and have not found much info so far, but is there anywhere that I can learn about the emissions compliance of these 790's (EURO vs. US EPA)? Thanks again.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Dunno about the emissions - stay tuned for my in depth review soon!
@peter2679
@peter2679 5 жыл бұрын
All us big cruiser types would love you to do some reviews on them.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
So would I!!
@jx7230
@jx7230 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great reviews.. Any chance you would have a Moto Guzzi V7 III review in the future? Its a bike Im considering and since there are no test rides available where I am, your opinion matters greatly to me. Thanks for all the content, take care.
@eubikedude
@eubikedude 5 жыл бұрын
Please, please Mr. Pierer, give me an electric version! ;) I just got 3 software updates on my Duke and it's massively more torquey and less snatchy down low. I wasn't ecpecting anything and rode back to back with only an hour between rides. It was in for something else and they did the update at the same time. No doubt the adventure is even more torquey though and likely has a larger flywheel.
@RichDunn
@RichDunn 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 6ft 2" and the airflow was pretty good for me at high speeds. No protection, but not much buffeting. It's definitely tall as you mention!
@sfforestgump
@sfforestgump 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Dunn have done long rides? I’m 6’3 and worry about comfort for long paved road rides.
@ronsexton3685
@ronsexton3685 4 жыл бұрын
@@sfforestgump Another guy did the trans EU trail and he is 2 meters which is 6'5" . He loves it. He has KZbin videos as well.
@MrAndrew1953
@MrAndrew1953 5 жыл бұрын
Standard seat yeah- I'm the same height as you. Beautiful bike for around town or bush bashing on the weekend. Adventure R definitely the one to go for with the up/down slipper clutch.
@dannyracer25
@dannyracer25 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Tmf .I like the 790 and it's looks not to sure on Micky mouse wing mirrors. Thanks danny
@dirtyhabitz2888
@dirtyhabitz2888 5 жыл бұрын
Another very helpful vid, Andy, thanks! Here’s a question for you; KTM 790 AD R or Tiger 800 XCA? Cheers, Andy 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
For me Tiger 800 mainly due height....plus I’m a sucker for that triple engine...and I prefer the looks....
@dirtyhabitz2888
@dirtyhabitz2888 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts 👍 It just so happens that I’m taking a new Tiger 800 XCA out for a test ride next week, as I’m considering adding a 2nd bike to my garage. I was thinking about swapping my air cooled Bonnie for a new Speed Twin, but I just don’t think I can let it go. So a 2nd, anytime, anywhere bike seems like the best option. First world problems, eh? 😂 Thanks again, Andy 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@leanatale7251
@leanatale7251 5 жыл бұрын
Like the look of the KTM, but prefer the tiger 800
@mts982
@mts982 5 жыл бұрын
Why do you prefer the tiger 800??
@leanatale7251
@leanatale7251 5 жыл бұрын
@@mts982 I love that triple engine, used have the xrx version, so refined.
@splodge57
@splodge57 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah Tigers a better road bike.
@bobz1736
@bobz1736 5 жыл бұрын
Had my Tiger XCx for 4 years now and a superb allrounder. Fast on road, handles great, comfy two up with luggage and capable on the dirt with E07 tyres 😎
@lord.onk99
@lord.onk99 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
More to come on this bike Ken - stay tuned!
@MrEtnorb
@MrEtnorb 5 жыл бұрын
I would suggest that to the intended market for this bike, none of those points will make any difference. This bike is a game changer for dedicated dirt riders and will be a runaway success, especially here in Australia. Decent dirt bikes are tall, that’s the way it is. The BMW F850GS isn’t even remotely competitive.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed - I completely get this is the off-road focused machine, as a road rider I would have far rather borrowed the non "R"...
@gavinduthie7821
@gavinduthie7821 5 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised KTM try to sell this bike at all in the UK, as the UK doesn’t have the sort of terrain this bike is designed for. Possibly if you intended to intended to cross the channel and do sections of the trans European trail or similar you could develop an argument for buying one in the UK. They much are much too heavy for most people on any Green Lanes I’ve seen in the UK However these 790s are ideal in places like Aus, NZ, S.A. and the US on some trails and gravel roads you get there. I’ve heard the TMF say the modern superbikes are irrelevant for the road. Absolutely agree - They have too much performance and too much tyre grip. But an adventure bike on a low grip surface gives most riders access to the feeling that they using their skill and their bikes ability to the full. I do think once you leave the sealed surface, anything with more than 1 cylinder is too big for most. The rider mostly needs to be confident (a bit a skill helps too...), and as the Aussie guy alluded to below its best on someone else’s bike as bike adventure bike can bend easily.
@seano4214
@seano4214 4 жыл бұрын
I have had the pleasure of riding this bike off road at the Sweet Lamb Complex in Wales. This bike handles so well off road you can throw it at almost anything!! My question is, what do you think this bike would be like to commute into London from round your neck of the woods? Cheers
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
I think it would make a great commuter....
@dogshmog
@dogshmog 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if KTM have already shown their cards? The Duke 890 motor is probably going to make its way into the Adventure series. 890 Adventure R sounds very nice!
@garyl8764
@garyl8764 5 жыл бұрын
Hi TMF, I have a KTM 790 ADV S and yes the suspension is not as adjustable as the R version but the S is more road biased. I think you should try the S version as it is quote KTM 'A road bike that's capable of off road' not the other way round like the R. As for seat height I am 5"9" and can touch the floor fine on my S. The bike I had before was a 2018 Triumph XRT 800 and yes it was a great bike to go to Germany and back to the UK but it's not as exciting as the KTM. The KTM just makes me want to smile 'ear to ear' and keep riding every chance I get. If you don't believe me speak to Codger Biker on You Tube he loves his S model. P.S. Love the videos keep up the good work :-)
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Gary - unfortunately I didn’t get the choice of which model I could borrow, definitely the “S” would be the one I’d have preferred as a shortie road rider...
@tsagepainting
@tsagepainting 5 жыл бұрын
Does this bike have a cable clutch or hydraulic clutch..
@edwardbrown9587
@edwardbrown9587 5 жыл бұрын
Cable clutch
@peterparker219
@peterparker219 5 жыл бұрын
Good review, thank you. I wonder if you find the bike comfy enough for a long ride. There are many complaints in the net especially on the rallye style seat of the R model to be quite "solid" under the butt. But anyway thanks for the show 👍
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
I must say I've yet to find a KTM with a really comfy seat!! Dunno why that is.....
@danielcanovas341
@danielcanovas341 5 жыл бұрын
TMF how does the speed compare to your GS because I know it’s 30hp less but it’s also 30kgs less. How does it feel?
@alexmorgan3435
@alexmorgan3435 5 жыл бұрын
Weren't you watching or listening? I think he was quite clear how it rode and handled.
@danielcanovas341
@danielcanovas341 5 жыл бұрын
Alex Morgan I didn’t mention handling. I’m asking a specific question on speed and acceleration because I have a GS so it gives me an idea. I watched the whole video but if you can point me to the time point where my very specific question is addressed It would be much appreciated. Thanks
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
It feels faster than an R1200GS to me....but these sorts of bikes aren't about speed for me....
@alexmorgan3435
@alexmorgan3435 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielcanovas341 Wheel you didn't ask a specific question about acceleration initially and you didn't say you have a GS. You stated weight and power and asked how it FELT.
@withcranes
@withcranes 5 жыл бұрын
I love mine and I'm only 5ft 3" tall. However, my inseam is 38 inches so that helps a great deal.
@ronboe6325
@ronboe6325 5 жыл бұрын
I used to have a 2000 Moto Guzzi Quota. One of the top 5 reasons I sold it on - the aerodynamics were terrible and extremely difficult to manage. On the other hand, saddled with a 36" inseam I like the tall seat!
@sandydennylives1392
@sandydennylives1392 5 жыл бұрын
Triumph for shorties, KTM fits just right. Shame it's not the other way around.
@mountaintourer0713
@mountaintourer0713 5 жыл бұрын
had the same effect with the windscreen on the "normal" 790 adventure. seems to have something to do with the shape of the front as well...really terrible
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Oh dear I was hoping the taller screen would sort it out - worst bike I’ve ever ridden for head vibration....!
@johnktm950
@johnktm950 5 жыл бұрын
Here in the UK we don't really have the environment to suit the "R" models do we? No open desert or vast savannah on our little island, I know it's nice to have the top of the range, but I can't help thinking the "S" model would be more than enough for most people to tour on with a bit of green lane work thrown in if the mood takes you.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yes - I tend to agree!
@mts982
@mts982 5 жыл бұрын
Dont they have a low profile seat?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
They do - sadly KTM were unable to supply me with one to try (I did ask, as well as for a bigger screen)....
@peter2679
@peter2679 5 жыл бұрын
If a bigger screen did not fix the helmet buffeting it would be a deal breaker.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yes certainly would be for me - sadly I didn't get the chance to try a bigger screen (I did ask KTM if I could.....)
@SuperchargedLlama
@SuperchargedLlama 5 жыл бұрын
TMF I have a question that this video has reminded me to ask (and it maybe one to have the viewers of the live stream to answer unless you can poll?): Why have the videos for the 790 been so spread out? I've noticed you've done it for a few videos in series recently (or perhaps it's how a perceive it); it feels unnecessarily drawn out having the videos for this bike spread out over....is it something like 6 weeks? And I think it went back a while ago? I'm curious if it's getting on other viewers nerves or if it's just me (it's not that annoying, let's be completely honest here....just a minor niggle). It always sounds like you could go back to your three video a week schedule when you say you've got about a year's worth of stuff in the can (unless I misunderstood the schedule, and of course I don't have any appreciation for the editing and how long that takes).
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
I am producing three videos a week! ....just couldn’t keep up with just two although that remains my “official” publishing schedule - I fact of late I’ve been turning down and cancelling lots of planned content in an attempt to get back some time....
@SuperchargedLlama
@SuperchargedLlama 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer I can completely understand that; I hope the subscription model means it's a more viable source of income so that you can spend more time on it knowing it's an earner....but I can also see how that could suck the fun out of it for you too. My main question then would be with regards to scheduling of the content releases for a certain bike being spread out too much (imo); have you found that this approach has lead to increased views for the subsequent videos? I ask because it feels different to the pattern you seemingly followed before.
@sharpbends
@sharpbends 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure about that low slung plastic fuel tank, wonder if it can handle being dropped and not be punctured in rocky terrain, underseat would probably be better like the 701 etc. Seat height would be ok if you are 6 foot 6+ ;-)
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
I imagine KTM did a lot of testing of that tank - the low COG is amazing for handling...
@Bass.Player
@Bass.Player 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure that i have enough confidence to ride there even though I know I would have to ride on the other side of the road. That "red" light looked yellow to me and it's was what looked like to me to be in the middle of nowhere? I'm sure it all makes sense if you live there. Not sure why people park on the road when there is no shoulder? You do that here and you can pick your car up at the pound and pay a fine for impeding traffic, having nowhere else to park would be no excuse and might piss the Judge off... Nice bike....
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
I’m assuming you’re in the US??
@Bass.Player
@Bass.Player 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer correct
@anushah9702
@anushah9702 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of problems with this bike. Far more than normal teething problems. Oil leaks. TFT problems. Fuel gauge issue. Lights staying on issue. Etc, etc. Caution needed before purchase.
@alexmorgan3435
@alexmorgan3435 5 жыл бұрын
Just because ONE person on the internet had an issue the bike is doomed!
@anushah9702
@anushah9702 5 жыл бұрын
Alex Morgan one ! I wouldn’t post for one mate.
@heisnotlongbutthin
@heisnotlongbutthin 5 жыл бұрын
We sold 15 790 Adventure normal and R combined since launch this year. So far we had one machine with the fuel gauge issuse and the other with a leaking shaft seal at the drive sproket. (yeah and one fell over in our yard - we couldn`t get the bikes inside fast enough when a sudden rainstorm hit, that one doesn`t count, but it hurts like hell watching a brand new bike tople over in slow motion :-( Other than that no problems at all, and furthermore only smiles on costumers faces.
@sl077766
@sl077766 5 жыл бұрын
I like the look of some KTM's (and was thinking about a Scalpel) but a friend bought a new 690SMCR and the day he got it the dash died and kept doing so, then leading a group in abroad - it lasted a day before the clutch pee'd fluid everywhere resulting in him doing an 800 mile round trip to collect his other bike. Needless to say he's got rid of it.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Oh dear 😬
@SteveInskip
@SteveInskip 5 жыл бұрын
Really interesting vid...thanks for that! Must check out the KTM dealer up the road! Have a good one!
@themightydash1714
@themightydash1714 5 жыл бұрын
I thought I'd love the 790 series of bike, but to me, they sound like they've got some oil starvation issue going on, I mean, I know they haven't and it's just a characteristic of the engine noise, no doubt made far far worse by the frequencies the helmet camera/microphones pick up in addition to the Euro exhausts killing any exhausts notes which would normally cover up engine noise, but... I'm not sure I could live with that engine noise :/ it's bug the hell out of me, you know? I'm sure there are some lovely aftermarket pipes for this bike though.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I imagine so...
@jayash6108
@jayash6108 5 жыл бұрын
Already put my money down on the Ténéré 700, just can’t warrant £3500 more for the KTM,
@FourIntoOne
@FourIntoOne 5 жыл бұрын
Yep defo the way to go. Same here.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I look forward to trying one - I like that the Tenere 700 doesn’t try to over complicate things!
@rdrg7362
@rdrg7362 5 жыл бұрын
Tenere 700 is a great alternative if you (1) do not have the money for the 790 (even non-R) and (2) are tall enough to ride with the optional higher comfort seat on the Tenere because the standard seat is unrideable.
@mikehorton8603
@mikehorton8603 5 жыл бұрын
As the owner of a new tracer 900gt I have to say I'm impressed with the Mt series. With the mt07 engine I'm sure the tenere will be a good buy. I've seen one in the flesh and it looks no nonsense
@jimenagulla9081
@jimenagulla9081 5 жыл бұрын
If you ride in the dirt, want a real gas tank, great brakes, awesome suspension, the 3,500 is well worth it, if you putt around on the street and gravel roads well then, really any bike will do.
@FuzzyScaredyCat
@FuzzyScaredyCat 5 жыл бұрын
ooooh, look at you with your updated, animated lower thirds ;)
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Well actually I’ve been doing them for some years on my “top 5 things I love about...” videos but glad you like ‘em!
@jimenagulla9081
@jimenagulla9081 5 жыл бұрын
The 790R was made to be ridden hard in the dirt, and i dont mean gravel roads, so witout riding it so does not do it justice. It's balance and nimbleness will put many other adventure bikes in its class to shame.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree - this bike deserves to be ridden off road....just not by me!
@spetersonmusic
@spetersonmusic 5 жыл бұрын
Insightful and informative as always. And nary a white van at all! (*Though I did see a few).
@fmommen
@fmommen 5 жыл бұрын
The standard 790 Adventure seat won't help you with the height. It's the suspension what's causing the greater height.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Fair enough....although I thought there was a low seat option available??
@Officialkennyeaton
@Officialkennyeaton 5 жыл бұрын
Could you do a kawasaki ninja 400 review please. Cheers love the vids m8
@motonirvana6861
@motonirvana6861 5 жыл бұрын
Also the Kawi Z400
@Micromation
@Micromation 5 жыл бұрын
Damn it's a shame it's so tall. I was hoping this would be the KTM for me but I guess the only bike that makes remote sense in my case (5'6'') would be upcoming CCM GP600...
@palantir135
@palantir135 5 жыл бұрын
It's a ver nice bike but it's way too high for my legs. The standard fits me better and has the bigger screen. I'm not going offroad therefore I don't need an adventure bike.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yes same here - the non “R” would definitely be more my thing....
@lordseptomus441
@lordseptomus441 Жыл бұрын
been told this is the bike to get as I'm 6'7" with really long legs
@thesilverfoxtravels6653
@thesilverfoxtravels6653 5 жыл бұрын
Not the bike for me then, I'd need step ladders to get on and Elton John's platform shoes to put my feet down..!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
same here!
@willwye410
@willwye410 5 жыл бұрын
TMF, I guess Adventure R is so off-road focused the standard Adventure 790 is better for many of us = lower height, better screen, same performance etc even tho’ it has less adjustable suspension. But I think KTM really need to do purely road orientated 790 for touring = a ‘baby’ 1290 Super Duke GT.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yes agreed....
@lezlight3497
@lezlight3497 5 жыл бұрын
TMF, you don't just get to ride all the funkiest bikes, just like Mr Benn of 70's UK children's TV fame, you've got an outfit for every one of them... I reckon you're a bit of a tart at heart! (I'm just jealous really) 👍😁
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
I am a complete tart I admit it!
@mistery00t29
@mistery00t29 5 жыл бұрын
TMF you should check out Mototrek-Bret Tkacs,he has done amazing review on this bike,very very good video! Im not saying yours is not good btw 😁
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I am a subscriber and watched that earlier in the week - he's more of an off road man than I and hence he loved the bike....me, not so much....
@mistery00t29
@mistery00t29 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer He lives in that part of the country where he can off road every day...in England is a bit different! Thanks for reply anyway! 👍
@lynsmith1096
@lynsmith1096 5 жыл бұрын
Good video TMF. Im a shorty so this bike is no good for me.
@RichardvanDijk
@RichardvanDijk 5 жыл бұрын
Was on my shortlist. But the new xrt 800 was just too nice. Sticking with triumph. Have to say the constant talk of issues with KTMs did not fill me with confidence either.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yes the Tiger 800s are brill I agree....
@aidebethune
@aidebethune 5 жыл бұрын
Nice leathers!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks - they rarely get seen in public! Used to be a bit small for me but fit fine now!
@martinfrost3596
@martinfrost3596 5 жыл бұрын
KTM seat height too tall for me. I am uncomfortable with anything over 840. Incidentally I'm 5ft 10, but with the same inside leg measurements as you
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yes too tall for me to be comfortable at 5'8" for sure - I did ask KTM if they could supply the lower seat and taller windscreen but sadly they weren't able too as I only gave them 24 hours notice....
@alexanders1365
@alexanders1365 5 жыл бұрын
I have tested the standard version with the higher windscreen but the wind buffeting is also horrible. In general i didn´t like this bike. It looks perfect on paper and perhaps it is perfect if you are going offroad but for onroad use there are better adventure bikes out there.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
I agree....
@PowerPete999
@PowerPete999 5 жыл бұрын
What about the top 5 off road things to be aware of, surely that's what its built for!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Very true - for taller people than me though!
@justinfontaine5539
@justinfontaine5539 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know why KTM doesn't get with making their bikes in a "low" version like BMW does. They make both the GS 1200 and the Adventure in a "low" version an and they sell tons of them
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@306Geni
@306Geni 5 жыл бұрын
First customer advice - if you want to buy bike made in India you should rather look for Royal Enfield. It also have some flaws but it's way cheaper than KTM. Second customer advice - if you want realiable bike to ride to Mongolia buy Tenere700 or even CB500X. You'll pay much less money but they won't leave you standing in middle of nowhere.
@MeanGreenList
@MeanGreenList 5 жыл бұрын
I can tell by your picture that you're a Yamaha fan. I am a 790 Adv R owner along with several dirt bikes and a 1200GS. The 790 is the perfect bike for me. No issues and since I am doing a lot of off road riding much better than the GS. I always love to see opinions of people who have never owned a bike and are experts now.
@rockafella1690
@rockafella1690 5 жыл бұрын
Not a great looking bike in my opinion. Good bit of kit though otherwise. Very surprised about the seat height - I sat on one and it seemed very small for an adventure bike. 🤔
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Did you sit on the "R" like this one?
@rockafella1690
@rockafella1690 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer Hmmm I'm pretty sure I sat in them both as the 2 of them were at the KTM stand. 880mm isn't short though for sure.
@2fly1974
@2fly1974 4 жыл бұрын
Why would you buy this bike if it's too tall for you and you don't want to take it off-road. Then you buy the R version which is the taller of the two models and is more off-road specific which they intentionally put a shorter windscreen on it even though the more road oriented bike has the taller screen on it which seems to better suit your needs. Seems like your gripe is should be about buying the wrong model.
@rdrg7362
@rdrg7362 5 жыл бұрын
You stuck to the road, which is 50% of the subject for this bike, yet formed an opinion!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 5 жыл бұрын
Yep - it is only my opinion though, and I’m no expert....
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