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KTM Camshafts failure on 790

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Flows motorcycle channel

Flows motorcycle channel

Ай бұрын

The KTM 790 engine, used in models like the KTM 790 Duke and KTM 790 Adventure/ 890 Adventure and even Norden 901 has had reported issues related to its camshaft and related components, Here is a look at the issue and what KTM says to that.

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@chestertownelectric6290
@chestertownelectric6290 Ай бұрын
I can’t watch a video with irritating background music.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@chestertownelectric6290 that has been brought to my attention!!! It’s a learning process, thanks for watching!!!
@anchinkan
@anchinkan 14 күн бұрын
Thought the same! I "endured" it, coz the content is interesting. So, please, FMC, keep it up but either without or at least with tuned down music in the background. Better without it;-).
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 14 күн бұрын
@@anchinkan yes sir, it’s noted and if you watch the following Update video, no more music!!! Thanks for watching!!!
@anchinkan
@anchinkan 14 күн бұрын
@@FMC-20244 Vielen Dank 😉
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 14 күн бұрын
@@anchinkan Dankeschön!!!
@paulb_614
@paulb_614 Ай бұрын
The music has got to go! No music on serious topics and this issue deserves the spotlight
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@paulb_614 noted!!! No more music!!! Thanks for watching
@m2menuiserie540
@m2menuiserie540 11 күн бұрын
It's not music. It's the cams rattling on another KTM in the background. Good, fair, balanced assessment of the problem by Mr Flows. It's astonishing that anyone even contemplates buying one of these machines now. And the way in which KTM has sidestepped the problem is an absolute disgrace. What a sad end to a hitherto reputable company.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 11 күн бұрын
@@m2menuiserie540 it’s a very sad situation, and yet we see people on the FB pages still buying them, saying it’s all just a hype, or the “deal” was to sweet to not buy it. Thanks for watching!!!
@robertstone4025
@robertstone4025 24 күн бұрын
That music is almost as annoying as KTM engineering flaws .
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 24 күн бұрын
@@robertstone4025 thanks for watching
@javierc2726
@javierc2726 Ай бұрын
1. The music is annoying and loud 2. Your friend was scammed, sorry
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, just started the channel and still learning a lot!! Thanks for watching
@Adv_Charlie
@Adv_Charlie Ай бұрын
How was his mate scammed?
@Calbertone
@Calbertone Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing the issues with the 790/890 motors. My 1090 R was solid, my 890R ain’t.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
Yes its a sad case!! the V twin engines seem to be good, the Parallel twins are the failing ones!!! Thanks for watching!!!
@tomg6284
@tomg6284 Ай бұрын
More reason not to buy china made anything
@justsomedude445
@justsomedude445 17 күн бұрын
ditto here 2017 1090r 32000 tough trouble free miles
@rangeroadmoto
@rangeroadmoto Ай бұрын
I did a video on the 890 and touched on its reliability issues, I was blown away with the amount of comments concerning head internals failing at around 12,00 miles
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@rangeroadmoto sadly a wide spread issue
@GhostOfTheAngels
@GhostOfTheAngels Ай бұрын
So crazy he has to go through all that work and trouble pulling proof of service just to have to pay for labor. I'd rather just try my luck at doing the top end myself.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
You are absolutely right, it’s a crazy deal with this issue. If they don’t come through then we will fix it ourselves. If that happens we will make a video for sure
@johndeiuliis2732
@johndeiuliis2732 Ай бұрын
Mine has just failed 19 k miles and after service for valve check , Ktm new the oil feed problem and chose not to recall the bikes on that year 2019 ..will not be buying a Ktm in the future , and will tell everyone I see on 790 890 to get rid of their bikes
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
It’s sad to see this problem to so many people, hopefully they will fix this asap
@outdoorkreations7051
@outdoorkreations7051 Ай бұрын
Did they offer to help goodwill parts to you? Any help at all?
@bikenavbm1229
@bikenavbm1229 16 күн бұрын
but KTM say this is not happening must be my imagination I am watching this, thanks for adding some evidence, but as others have said the music is not helping but it is your vid.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 16 күн бұрын
@@bikenavbm1229 well sadly it is happening, and many bikes are victim to the issue. The music problem has been fixed in the update video 😉. Thank for watching!!!
@colinbowman8816
@colinbowman8816 Ай бұрын
Cross your fingers that this problem somehow won't affect the Kove 800x....Because that thing looks pretty awesome.
@thomasdoe6768
@thomasdoe6768 14 күн бұрын
I don´t mind the music. Sure it is kind of annoying, but as you said, it is a learning process. I want to support smaller channels. You earned a sub and my like.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 14 күн бұрын
@@thomasdoe6768 thank you so much for the support!!!
@KevinDaken
@KevinDaken 17 күн бұрын
Orange used to be a Great Flavor, I've owned a number of KTM's but won't buy again. This issue has simply been around far too long without resolution by the manufacturer, and support for the impacted owners is sadly lacking. I think the modern trend to extend oil change intervals is also not working in the owners favor.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 17 күн бұрын
@@KevinDaken absolutely agreed!!! Thanks for watching!!!
@user-do1sr9wg1w
@user-do1sr9wg1w Сағат бұрын
Oils have become better over the years but bikes has way too little oil and too high rpm and power and also the debris from the wet clutch. I have a Husky 701, it has 10000km oil change interval. A Husky 501 has 15 hours. They have almost the same amount of oil (very little) If i would follow the recommendations i would be at my second oil change at 185 hours, second after the initial break-in oil change. So that would be like 170 hours or so on the same oil.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Сағат бұрын
@@user-do1sr9wg1w totally agree!!! Thanks for watching!!!
@thefika
@thefika Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video and Prawno Music
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@thefika thanks for watching!!!
@shortbusdog
@shortbusdog Ай бұрын
I’ve never heard of the issue being with the head and oiling. Always heard it was just cams not being hard enough. I’ll have to look into it
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@shortbusdog seems like multiple factors involved here!! Thanks for watching!!!
@arnoudagr2171
@arnoudagr2171 12 күн бұрын
So far I've only seen it on the LH intake cam lobes. Maybe an oil distribution issue?
@adamhrachowina9119
@adamhrachowina9119 8 күн бұрын
Makes no difference newer or older head design. A guy in the uk has proved the oil pressure at the squirter isnt the cause. The camshafts lobes are individually pressed on to the shaft, it's looking more likely that some of the lobes have not been heat treated correctly, not an issue with oiling as some early 790's are still going strong with over 20k.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 8 күн бұрын
@@adamhrachowina9119 thank you for that input!!! Honestly I never thought about how camshafts are made, always thought they where a one piece design. I’ll have to look closer into that. Thanks for watching!!!
@adamhrachowina9119
@adamhrachowina9119 8 күн бұрын
@@FMC-20244 You're welcome, so much contradictory info floating around. His investigation mirrors what a few people have been thinking. He's sent a set of worn cams away for metallurgy testing and awaiting him putting the next vid up with findings, a UK guy, but annoyingly I can't remember his channel 😡 I also suspected the same when I looked at a set, the lobes are all individual not one piece like traditional cams so there's a potential for some errors during manufacture. Despite some saying not enough oil was getting through the oil ways, the bearing journals don't wear. Also the squirters were in question but he debunked that. The best I've found is a billet inlet cam, but it's for the Duke motor. Loads more mid to top power and looking at the graphs we wouldn't lose any low end, but that would remain to be seen and depend on how the cam was degree'd and the tuners attention to ign timing creating a new map. I checked my 890 cams early at 6k and continue to do so at early intervals. As a daily driver mine gets started at 05:30 and ridden straight off, I don't sit there like some waiting for the oil to "warm up" that's just stupid. The engine should be run normally without thrashing until at full temp. I'll have a look for the vid later and link it for your info 👍
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 8 күн бұрын
@@adamhrachowina9119 i absolutely agree that there is a lot of difference and controversy info around. I take my 25 years of motorcycle mechanic knowledge and what I have right in front of me. I’m not a engineer so it’s always interesting to see what the smarter people can find out!!! Thanks for the insight and yes please share a link to that video if you find it!!!
@adamhrachowina9119
@adamhrachowina9119 8 күн бұрын
@@FMC-20244 The last last experience I had of anything like this was the VW golf GTI. They would eat through the top face of lifters like they were plastic. VW went straight to defensive mode and stated the engines needed to be run on "special" oil and dealer service or they wouldn't warranty them lol. My friend is a mechanic and looked after his meticulously but was denied warranty. He rebuilt his with aftermarket buckets and never had an issue after that. I suspect it is similar with KTM, this could have gone away with a recall or even sending cams out to owners out of warranty. They should just come clean and admit if it's quality control as It goes a long way to maintaining public confidence in their products, where denial in the face of hard facts (which they have forced people to look for) will have a huge dent in their integrity. I bought the 890R knowingly with only 12mth warranty as I was spoiled with excellent service when I raced KTM way back in the 90's. The dealer was an ex works mechanic and even though it was a race bike anything not right got sorted by the shop. These days though I've no dealer confidence and as soon as my warranty was finished I avoided the dealership and did everything myself. It's gone as far as looking at replacing the ECU to be rid of any tie to a shop.
@muzzkeg8172
@muzzkeg8172 3 күн бұрын
Can you send a link to The Bingley Wheeler? He is in complete denial about this issue
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 2 күн бұрын
@@muzzkeg8172 feel free to send him the link. There are a good amount of people in denial but the truth is the problem is real!!!! Thanks for watching!!!
@greatfallskam
@greatfallskam Ай бұрын
Great video. I have 25K miles on my 2021 KTM 890 Adventure. Either I am lucky or don't redline my bike enough. I hope you're listening KTM.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@greatfallskam glad to hear you got a good one!!! Enjoy it!!! Thanks for watching!!!
@claytonkennedy9841
@claytonkennedy9841 Ай бұрын
Love your intro Flo!😂😅
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 stay tuned, more to come
@outdoorkreations7051
@outdoorkreations7051 Ай бұрын
Should have bought the tenere smh
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
I agree 😂
@marinusk67
@marinusk67 Ай бұрын
Could it be a wheely problem? Like the sv 650 . Wheely that and you're front cilinder gets no oil so you're 650 ends up as a 325
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
I doubt it, way to many bikes with those issues. But still a interesting thought!!! Thanks for watching
@paultaylorduke
@paultaylorduke Ай бұрын
No, it's not a wheelie problem. I had to replace the camshafts on my KTM 790 Duke and I'm not very good at wheelies. My bike being a Duke also removes the "dusting" issue that KTM states is the issue/cause on the Adventure bikes. It is more likely poor surface hardening and possibly clogged oil jets.
@iamandreja
@iamandreja 25 күн бұрын
My friend is a REALLY calm rider and he had to replace his camshaft at less than 20000km.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 25 күн бұрын
@@iamandreja sorry for your friend. This is such a let down on a very loved bike
@alain2274
@alain2274 Ай бұрын
Hello, what country are you in? In France, I have never heard of a problem on camshafts of Ktm 790 or 890 advendure many motorcycles have high mileage and not this problem
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@alain2274 hey we are in the USA, so far it’s recorded that USA, UK and Australia have the most bikes with recorded issues. Thanks for watching
@alain2274
@alain2274 Ай бұрын
@@FMC-20244 Thank you. What oil do you usually use , in France 10/50 sea. .
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@alain2274 not exactly sure, it’s not my bike. It’s a friend bike. But all the services have been done by ktm dealer
@RatBike750
@RatBike750 Ай бұрын
I changed my own cams and followers because it was cheaper than paying labor and hoping KTM gave me parts. $800 in parts. The best part is, when you have what looks like galling on the cams KTM says they are "discolored," and you should buff them off and put it back together. WTF? I will NEVER BUY A KTM PRODUCT AGAIN.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@RatBike750 sadly we have hear the “ discoloration” story to often. Thanks for watching!!!
@jimcarr8425
@jimcarr8425 Ай бұрын
You say many KTMs have this problem but what is the actual number? I had my 2019 790 Adv serviced a couple of weeks ago at 19,000 miles, the valves were still in tolerance and the cam lobes were ok.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
Then you sir are one of the lucky ones!!! Even though there is no official actual number it seems like over 50% of the 790/890 series has this problem. There is a group page that only discusses the cam issue and every day we see 5-10 new members stating that they bike have a worn cam. And the problem seems world wide, not limited to any country
@jimcarr8425
@jimcarr8425 Ай бұрын
@@FMC-20244 that's a bold claim of over 50%. Is there actually any evidence to back it up or is it a case of my mate said etc
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@jimcarr8425 as stated there is no actual official number, and no it’s not what a mate said, it’s weeks of research. Thanks for watching!!
@johnDukemaster
@johnDukemaster 29 күн бұрын
Exactly. There are more stories than actual cases. Especially alot of keyboard warriors who like to be "experts". There are some, but how many? My dealer had never heard of the problem and he has sold alot. What's alot? Exactly!
@Jptrs1985
@Jptrs1985 20 күн бұрын
Got a 2020 790 adv r, bought with 30.000 km/18.600 miles, just after the service with valve check, everything oke. Now it has 44000 km/27400 miles, still rides like a dream. Did 2 oil changes in that periode and last week a clutch plates, springs, pressure cap and oil jet change. Running as smooth as when i bought it, also clean oil, screens and filter, no metal shavings. Got the main filter oiled from twin air and the twin air pre filter, no dust is coming in, check it regular.
@ihbland
@ihbland Ай бұрын
Do you know if this issue got resolved within the newer models?
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
I can’t say for certain, we see 23 models with the issue, the 24 are still to new. I guess by end of the year we would know if the 24 are better. Thanks for watching
@RobertKehl
@RobertKehl Ай бұрын
Really I bought a 2023 890r Duke. I figured if this problem showed up in the 2019 790r they would have made some updates. Now I’m worried! I’m thinking I want to contact ktm before I have issues and ask will they be warranty the bike if it fails. I have bought 11 of there bikes over the years. The only problem I have had was the 08 990duke swelling compensate fuel tank. They did replace under warranty. On my 14 SDR the radiator sprung a leak and needed to be replaced. They didn’t cover that. That cost me $750. I also had the rear single sided swing arm loose hub failure. They covered that under warranty. I don’t no why this wouldn’t be a recall replacement under warranty. If this is still an issue from a 2019 790r and it wasn’t been updated in following years why hasn’t anyone sued ktm?
@RobertKehl
@RobertKehl Ай бұрын
Really I bought a 2023 890r Duke. I figured if this problem showed up in the 2019 790r they would have made some updates. Now I’m worried! I’m thinking I want to contact ktm before I have issues and ask will they be warranty the bike if it fails. I have bought 11 of there bikes over the years. The only problem I have had was the 08 990duke swelling compensate fuel tank. They did replace under warranty. On my 14 SDR the radiator sprung a leak and needed to be replaced. They didn’t cover that. That cost me $750. I also had the rear single sided swing arm loose hub failure. They covered that under warranty. I don’t no why this wouldn’t be a recall replacement under warranty. If this is still an issue from a 2019 790r and it wasn’t been updated in following years why hasn’t anyone sued ktm?
@paultaylorduke
@paultaylorduke Ай бұрын
@@RobertKehl It is definitely less frequent on the Dukes, but there are cases reported.
@tonyharding5336
@tonyharding5336 3 күн бұрын
Is it the cams or the followers which then wear the cams like on bmw’s
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 3 күн бұрын
@@tonyharding5336 There is still no concrete answer out there for they question. Some say the cams are soft, some say the followers are the issue. Some say it’s he oil jet. At this point we don’t have a answer, what I personally do think is that the extreme cam profile in conjunction with the follower setup is a problem. Thanks for watching
@imridingwithstoopidohwaiti3948
@imridingwithstoopidohwaiti3948 Ай бұрын
Its not KTM 4 strokes this is supposedly an 890 issue ... Im about to go check mine but my 500exc is like a clock other than normal maintenance.. I also have suspicions the 890 cam issue is related to oil change interval.. they call for way too many miles on an oil change...
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
So far we know that the 790/890/ Norden 901 are all failing in the cam department. Even heard a few 690 owners reaching out. I agree that probably half of those bikes don’t the serviced as the factory recommends, yet I personally know 2 bikes that have been serviced “ by the book” at the dealer, even a touch early and still have the same issues
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
But you are right, I misspoke here, it’s not all the 4T but the parallel twin with the issues. I’ll clarify this in the next update video. Thanks for watching!!!
@imridingwithstoopidohwaiti3948
@imridingwithstoopidohwaiti3948 Ай бұрын
@@FMC-20244 I just checked my 22 890 at I think 19,000mi cams look fine.. And now I know where my coolant is going time for a water pump seal..
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@imridingwithstoopidohwaiti3948 glad to hear your cam is good. Did the coolant mix with the oil?
@paultaylorduke
@paultaylorduke Ай бұрын
@@FMC-20244 From what i've seen in the Failed Camshaft group most owners split KTM's recommended oil service mileage into thirds. It's insane to leave an oil change for 15,000km as suggested by KTM. I'd also say a high percentage of owners do the service themselves but that shouldn't affect camshafts. Camshafts don't know who changed the oil. 😃
@paulscountry456
@paulscountry456 Ай бұрын
I would be fuming if my motor went to crap with that milage what were they thinking?
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@paulscountry456 yes it’s very upsetting. But a update on the situation is coming soon on a follow up video
@paulscountry456
@paulscountry456 Ай бұрын
@@FMC-20244 My consensus use those big ktm with snow track on back and ski up front, ferocious hp from a single, I rode a ktm 125 dirt bike two stroke and it felt like it was a tricked out race bike but it was stock and so fast.
@keyboarddancers7751
@keyboarddancers7751 14 күн бұрын
The trouble with potential major manufacturing defects is that v large numbers of customers will have no issues at all which creates an atmosphere of scepticism about complainants reinforced by manufacturers' rigorous denial that any problem ever existed. I guess ultimately we can all use the internet to conduct our own research and consequently exercise our freedom of well informed choice as to when and where we open our wallets.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 14 күн бұрын
@@keyboarddancers7751 you have a point here!!! Thanks for watching!!!
@RichPober
@RichPober 29 күн бұрын
Take a class action out against KTM. KTM have been selling motorcycles with cylinder-heads that are not designed with a correct oil-feed to the camshafts. Hence, these KTM motorcycles with this type of cylinder-head are not of merchantable quality. KTM have since superseded the original flawed cylinder-head with a newly improved design, which has to be installed along with new cam-shafts.
@str8shooter2
@str8shooter2 Ай бұрын
KTM bikes are expensive to maintain and are not user friendly when it comes to doing work on them yourself unless you have some reasonable mechanical aptitude.I have spent plenty on my old 950 over the years with the power and performance making it difficult to let go of.The new T7 tenere looks like a cheaper more reliable option.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
I agree 💯 with you!!! They are fun bikes but pricey and high maintenance. I own a t7 myself and love the bike, motor is basically bulletproof, but suspension is a bit on the weak side. Thanks for watching
@outdoorkreations7051
@outdoorkreations7051 Ай бұрын
Update I will not be taking my new 790 r on my planned adventure ride. I will be on my 690 enduro since that's my bike with butter cam lobes. Sitting at the dealer to be continued
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
Someone here on the comments has a 22 701 with 4k miles in with the same problem
@outdoorkreations7051
@outdoorkreations7051 Ай бұрын
@@FMC-20244 that's crazy they might be having those cams made in Wonka chocolate factory
@benlondon8467
@benlondon8467 Ай бұрын
Crazy stuff, I have a 1995 GPZ1100 in the shed I ride between the others. old GPZ has a pretty low mileage of 35k, but like néw inside, haven’t even had to adjusted valve clearance. The bike gets very well looked after, but.. it gets ridden hard when running. KTM has lost there way big time here.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@benlondon8467 Gpz are great bikes!! I owned several KZs and they are basically bulletproof. Thanks for watching
@benlondon8467
@benlondon8467 Ай бұрын
@@FMC-20244 yeah they are a beautiful old bike, easy to get more grunt out of them too 😉
@donkimes2135
@donkimes2135 Ай бұрын
That’s great he might get it back in a year or so.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@donkimes2135 sadly you not wrong, thanks for watching!!!
@dsmhiggins67
@dsmhiggins67 Ай бұрын
All these cam wipe outs on ktms look like oil starvation to me. The harder material wears rather than the softer material. Without oil to protect the metal to metal contact you get this
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
That’s what many say, they have little oil jets and they get blocked with any little bit of debris in the oil.
@robertgagne9355
@robertgagne9355 Ай бұрын
Well this raises the question of how many other bikes are effected with this issue, and when has the new cylinder head been put into production of new bikes. I never really new the truth about this motor; is it designed by KTM and built by CF Moto? The motor is used by KTM and CF Moto and is used by Husqvarna as well. This is really disappointing, considering how many good reviews there has been on this motor. Definitely staying away from any bike with this motor or it's variants till there is a clean bill of health.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@robertgagne9355 there is no official number out there on how many bikes are affected, and many owners of these bikes say they don’t have any problems, but honestly you wouldn’t know unless you take it apart and check. This bike ran 💯 and we couldn’t tell what was going on until we took the valve cover off. This bike was still build by Ktm in 2019. Word is that 2024 has upgraded head but no real info on that neither. I believe this year cf Moto started building the engines and bikes. It’s sad what’s going and all we can do it hope they fix it soon!!! Thanks for watching
@8andsk835
@8andsk835 Ай бұрын
I just traded in my 790 for a Suzuki 800de.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@8andsk835 hope you like it!!! Thanks for watching!!!
@sgomez3047
@sgomez3047 18 күн бұрын
CF- MOTO engine?
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 18 күн бұрын
@@sgomez3047 no, still made in Austria 🇦🇹. The CF moto are supposed to be pretty solid!! Thanks for watching!!!
@yk10yk
@yk10yk Ай бұрын
That's very impressive. Music was good too. 🤦‍♂
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
Just started and still Learning, thanks for watching
@yk10yk
@yk10yk Ай бұрын
@@FMC-20244 Appreciate your efforts. Thanks for trying. Hope it gets easier with time
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@yk10yk I’m sure it will, like everything it’s a learning process!!!
@outdoorkreations7051
@outdoorkreations7051 Ай бұрын
If you don't have any input on the 790 or cam or failure why comment. 😅 trolling I guess since you have 6 subscribers in 6 years lol
@yk10yk
@yk10yk Ай бұрын
​@@outdoorkreations7051 I apologise sir. Never again. Glad my profile put a smile on your face. Can I leave now?
@manosath3834
@manosath3834 Ай бұрын
If you respect your money, stay away from european junks. These days, all the companies, hunt horsepower via tight tolerances to meet euro 5 regulations and the mechanical parts always fail. Buy japanese bikes only.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
I’m a big Japanese fan myself, but I have to be honest I have a 2020 husky te250 2 stroke and that bike is working like clockwork. Never a single issue
@jamescampbell4334
@jamescampbell4334 Ай бұрын
Hardly. The Ducati Testastretta engine (937cc L Twin) is a bomb proof design. Guys who regularly track this motor can't destroy it. Has a long, proven track record. I put over 13k miles on my DesertX in the first year of ownership, at 15k miles now. I have a 5 year/unlimited mileage TRANSFERABLE warranty on my Ducati. I plan on selling it in year 4, with around 50k miles on it. Will have my local Ducati Dealer (AMS Ducati Dallas) do a full PPI and inspection report on the bike before listing it for sale. You don't know how much a vehicle costs until you sell it. 😊
@manosath3834
@manosath3834 Ай бұрын
@@jamescampbell4334 I hope you reach 50k miles on it. 😉
@manosath3834
@manosath3834 Ай бұрын
I have a honda cbr 1100 xx blackbird with 450k kms on it. I'm the 4th owner. Same engine.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@manosath3834 that’s the Japanese quality right there!!! 🙌
@hkk210
@hkk210 Ай бұрын
I see so many vehicles, 2 wheels and 4, that have this issue. The cam lobes furthest from the oil feed get starved. What a useless design having oil come in from one side through one channel in my opinion. All it takes is some particle build up or maybe even oil filter change without soaking the filter in oil before installation.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
Definitely a design flaw here!! Thanks for watching!!!
@colinbowman8816
@colinbowman8816 Ай бұрын
It's been shown not to be the lobes farthest from the oil feed in some cases.
@Compasscard
@Compasscard Ай бұрын
I stick to my Japanese make, I do like the 1290R but I probably never will buy one as there are also issues with these engines and KTM does not deliver on warranty when looking at other videos
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@Compasscard I’m in the same boat, love my japs. Been looking at the 1290 tho. The v twin engines seem pretty reliable. The parallel twins is where the issue started. Thanks for watching!!!
@anderspetersson5279
@anderspetersson5279 Ай бұрын
⁠@@FMC-20244I have a 1290 SAS. Awesome bike 👍
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@anderspetersson5279 I can imagine!!! Thanks for watching!!!
@Snotroggel453
@Snotroggel453 16 күн бұрын
There is a guy on youtube with a kawasaki z900 that reached 60.000 miles (100.000km) 😂
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 16 күн бұрын
@@Snotroggel453 that’s nothing out of common, I used to own a 1982 cb900c that had 89,000 miles when I sold it!! Thanks for watching!!!
@garethmayfield4014
@garethmayfield4014 Ай бұрын
They haven't learnt the lessons of the car industry. They have gone cheap and its not working for them. Every manufacture has to go through this for some unbeknown reason. Bring production back to Europe and sort your quality control out!! not hard??? Also lose that tech pack shit. That really pissses customers off. I've bought 6 new ktm's over the years. Really want the 1390 SMT when it comes out, but just do not want hand 20K plus over for a bike with dodgy reliability and over bearing electronics. I don't ride fast, but hate them. My super duke GT traction control put me in hospital for a week. Love my Ducati, but miss my ktm. That's the future.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
Yes sadly the quality control is a big issue here, as far as the tech pack, I personally don’t care for it at all, but most of todays consumers do and that’s why they keep stuffing these bikes with electronics. What blows my mind is that ktm charges a arm and a leg for those bikes and then you have to pay extra to unlock the tech that’s already on the bike and the consumer already paid for 🤦🏻‍♂️
@cpuuk
@cpuuk 24 күн бұрын
OMG, another 790 with chocolate cams. Quality engines made in China.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 24 күн бұрын
@@cpuuk sadly this is a 2019 so it was still made in Switzerland. But yes it sucks. Update coming soon. Thanks for watching!!!
@Jones-xx2gc
@Jones-xx2gc 21 күн бұрын
A so called premium brand. Do they not do long term engine testing before releasing this crap onto the general public. Would be a great informative video without the soundtrack please.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 21 күн бұрын
@@Jones-xx2gc thank you!! Yes the music has been pointed out by several people and I fixed that in the second video!!! Thanks for watching!!
@TXLorenzo
@TXLorenzo Ай бұрын
Looks like a metallurgy problem.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
Yes I agree, let see if ktm comes through!!! Thanks for watching
@TXLorenzo
@TXLorenzo Ай бұрын
@@FMC-20244 I will take Japanese steel over Chinese steel any day.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@TXLorenzo I prefer Japanese bikes in general!!!
@ProphetAndLoss
@ProphetAndLoss 25 күн бұрын
Why the stupid music? What does it add? Nothing - it detracts.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 25 күн бұрын
@@ProphetAndLoss no music in the next one!!! Thanks for watching!!!
@Vegasalieri
@Vegasalieri Ай бұрын
Awful crap from KTM, brake pads last longer than their cams… they did lots of work and durability tests to make sure we get a durable product!
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
I just laughed at that statement with the brake pads. Sad but true!!! Thanks for watching!!!
@paultaylorduke
@paultaylorduke Ай бұрын
lol - it's true I replaced my camshafts at just under 70,000km, my brake pads were still good at 80,000km but I changed them anyway.
@motozz8258
@motozz8258 Ай бұрын
Being more and more exposed fir there dodgy manufactured parts , r and on reliability
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
Yes, it’s sad!! Those are expensive motorcycles to begin with
@VirtueelGamingNL
@VirtueelGamingNL Ай бұрын
690 has same problem
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
Wow really? Haven’t heard that yet.
@VirtueelGamingNL
@VirtueelGamingNL Ай бұрын
@@FMC-20244 yeah well I got the husqie and it has worn cam coating as well.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@VirtueelGamingNL 701? How many miles?
@VirtueelGamingNL
@VirtueelGamingNL Ай бұрын
@@FMC-20244 4-5k miles cams have pitting and are blue. Finger followers look worn but can't really see them will replace the end of the season
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@VirtueelGamingNL wow that’s insane. Sorry to hear that!!! Seems like ktm cam issues are a big issue now. What year is your bike?
@nzseagull
@nzseagull Ай бұрын
Remove the music
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@nzseagull noted. No more music. Thanks for watching!!!
@DaveDayve
@DaveDayve Ай бұрын
What trash, utter trash. 11k? Pure junk
@danstevens2204
@danstevens2204 Ай бұрын
Shitheap
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@danstevens2204 thanks for watching!!!
@evalds1983
@evalds1983 Ай бұрын
Buy Yamaha 🤣
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
@@evalds1983 😂😉
@overboost7667
@overboost7667 Ай бұрын
KTMs are either new or close to scrap value. Nothing in between. The moment you realize, that every chinese 125cc scooter is faster and more reliable.
@FMC-20244
@FMC-20244 Ай бұрын
Sadly there are a few motorcycles brands and styles that automatically loose 25% the moment they roll out the dealership
@colinbowman8816
@colinbowman8816 Ай бұрын
KTM has had their share of trouble, but not on all models. Seems to be the 790/801, 690, and maybe some TBI issues on the newer off road 2t. The dirt-bikes and big advs are pretty good. I've had a 2014 350 EXCF for a long time now and it's solid, and way lighter than any Japanese dual sport offering.
@Adv_Charlie
@Adv_Charlie Ай бұрын
“Every Chinese 125cc scooter is faster” ? I’d like to see one beat a 1290 or even my 790
@colinbowman8816
@colinbowman8816 Ай бұрын
@@Adv_Charlie his point was the scooter is faster because the KTM is broken and doesn't go anywhere. But to be fair, the average Chinese scooter will be a total pile that's also broken continuously.
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