KTM into Administration and Rare Italian Exotica for £2,500

[@SUVRVing]

I'm a new rider. I've been riding for only about a year. I've bought two Hondas and a Yamaha. KTM has never been on my radar because I just constantly hear bad things. Reliability issues, poor support, charging money to unlock features already in the bike, etc. It's all of their own making. If you want to protect the integrity of your brand, don't do things that harm the integrity of your brand! 🤷‍♂️

[@kwak1k]

Wait for the, " I've had five KTM 's in five years with no problems" owners to show up in the comments 😂

[@blacksheepspaniard3978]

@@kwak1k some people just wanna be contrarians lol

[@Trevor_Austin]

I think you are correct. Brands need integrity. Whilst on paper KTM have built some amazing bikes they do love to chisel their customers. That was an expensive mistake.

[@JCRule69]

3 bikes in a year? Wow.

[@likkitongue]

What people don't understand is performance has a price.

[@trevortrevortsr2]

"The best bike for touring is the one you have now" Indeed don't faff about and grasp the moment - I did my first tour on a 1954 Triumph Terrier - the longest tour on an FJ1200 taking in 11 countries and my most frequent tours on an XJ600

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

Triumph Terrier- just googled this🤩 I’d never heard of it in my life!

[@stevezahn8056]

The best bike for touring is the bike you have now. And the best time to go is today. If you figure that out early in life, you’ll always be happy

[@vevey75]

Kudos to the 91 year old gor still riding a motorbike that's very inspiring 👏

[@davidrobinson4118]

We did have good cameras before the 'digital' age Freddie. And some of us even knew how to use them!

[@rumien1383]

😊

[@davidforsdike4343]

We have probably reached peak motorcycle . The 90s sportbike riders have moved on to adventure and retro models. Now not enough riders to replace them.

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

Completely agree

[@williambell12]

1970s riders now in their late 60s pushing into their 70s. More than likely down-sized like myself, or thrown the towel in. It's gonna happen one day for everyone. Cheers all from NZ

[@BUGBYTE_]

​@@williambell12that's where my mom is at she's been riding since around 1970. Shes 67 and still rides her 1250gs today. She has plenty of miles left.

[@anchinkan]

I think so too. Plus more and more restrictions worldwide doesn´t improve the situation...

[@StephenClarke-l4s]

I think you are right. KTM thought they were untouchable. They seemed to have assumed the 'fanboys' would not walk away. Some haven't but many have. You can not treat your customers in a shoddy way in this day and age.

[@thebrowns5337]

You can, and some do - Apple, Amazon, Temu. You just need to get very big first - and that's not going to happen in the motorcycle world.

[@sprocket-YT]

Seriously so many clueless takes on this situation KTM posted record sales and profits 2023, shifting 381,555 units worldwide and grossing $2.73B. This is about multiple businesses, buyouts, loans etc & interest rates not dropping & bad management, if it was solely one business yes they would be in bad shape but not completely in the 💩

[@HamRidez]

As a KTM owner, I’m obviously biased and make no apologies for it. However, I’m not too concerned with this news. At least there. Recognised the problem and are doing something about it. I think they will sort themselves out. I’ve had a 1290 Superduke r and now a 1290 super adventure s and both have been faultless and absolutely bags of fun. The super adventure is a brilliant all rounder. What I find most sad about all this. Is some of the comments on KZbin videos seemingly relishing in KTM’s problems and happy to see them go. These people seem to forget we are all bikers no matter what we ride and having more manufacturers making bikes ensures innovation is continuously pushing forward. Also KTM make some of the most unique bikes you can buy in looks, engines and the way they feel. Is my super adventure beautiful - absolutely not. If I wanted pure beauty I would fork out £40-50k on the new Norton RSV4 tbh. Saw it at motorcycle love and the detail, quality of materials and machining on every single little part was absolutely unbelievable. But…. I neither have £50k or unlimited funds to own multiple bikes. So a do or all adventure bike as your only bike makes perfect sense to me. And KTM already had me at the Superduke. I didn’t get it for years. In fact had a bit of a disdain for adventure bikes and what they were doing to the biker market and pushing out other models. However, the super adventure is a better bike overall than the Superduke in almost every way apart from the handling and brakes. We should all be sad for the state of all motorcycle manufacturers as none of them are having a particularly good time besides the Japanese manufacturers and probably royal Enfield.

[@rogerkay8603]

I had two 390 Dukes and covered over 20K miles, only had to get the second one as the 1st was written off on the cimmute when a cager pulled out on me at 40mph. Lots of people say they're unreliable without ever having owned one.

[@thisveterancan]

It's always great hearing the stories and seeing the pictures of bike adventures!

[@SherKhan-b1kes]

As mentioned by you in the past, my heart goes out to all the ex-Ktm employees and their families who are presently suffering due to mis-management. Oddly and luckily enough Husqvarna, GasGas and MV Augusta don‘t seem to be affected. Ps; if KTM is reading this, we still have a 790 Adventure engine in the yard which we will Sell you for research purposes.

[@richardbrooks4549]

@@SherKhan-b1kes Husqvarna, GasGas and MV Agusta are all affected. Their sales have tanked too

[@SherKhan-b1kes]

Thanks 🙏🏽for the info Richard, they just have‘nt popped up in the news. Just so unfair for people to lose their income, especially so close to christmas. Sales figures are generally down this time of the year for all, let’s just hope motorcycle business can pick up and maybe recover in spring.

[@rossbrn]

@@richardbrooks4549 And not just their sales, but the resale value of current bikes. And as its current owners most likely to upgrade to 2025 models it’s made it harder for fans to upgrade. Even if they wanted to!

[@paulbiddulph7620]

Happy birthday, Freddie 🎉. Nice cards on your sideboard

[@jeremybyth7991]

Always love your videos.... especially Tuesday@dobbs... your zest and passion, wonder and absolute joy for biking would rival, and possibly challenge that of a child with £500 let loose in hamleys just prior to Christmas. Every week I watch serves to re energise, and re ignite my own feelings for the lifestyle we all love and the bikes we ride. You have, over the year's built a virtual motorcycle club to rival the ton up boys of passionate bikers the world over. And your reviews helped me buy a BMW R9T... a Triumph Speed Twin 1200, and finally now a new Triumph Rocket 3 GT Storm. Long live the FDMC ( Freddie Dobbs Motorcycle Club).❤

[@flyjayUK]

Book ordered, looks good. Happy to give a little support to the channel, your content has been fantastic

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

Thank you so much!

[@wiseguyrob2005]

Hey Freddie. Rob from Wales here and a big fan of the podcast and your videos. Going to”bust” is different to self administration. Whilst I dislike ktms as they look horrific in my opinion this will likely be the first of many Bike or Car companies to use this as they look to restructure to a world and global economy that changes and not for the better. It allows them time to cut costs where required and they’ll continue to trade with no impact to the consumer. Just be careful using such terminology as It may land you in hot water 👍. Book will be ordered too so look forward to it pal

[@johnnythefox9830]

Thanks dobbsey. Great as usual. 👍✌️

[@davidchapman2439]

40 or 50 years ago we did have S.L.R and T.L.R camera's, it wasn't the dark ages.

[@judythomas2939]

And Kodachrome 😊

[@hailwood900]

And Ectachrome!

[@DirkGentley42]

Apart from SLRs, i had a little Minolta compact camera which had amazing picture quality. I reckon digital cameras are only just catching up. most Digital pictures just don't have the edge sharpness and don't have the same latitude as film. Ansell Adams squeezed out some pretty good pictures even earlier. All using film! How quaint. It's a bit of a bugbear for me at the moment where younger employees are of the mind that more modern is always better, more accurate etc (and this is to do with data processing). This has lead to a large waste of cash, software that doesn't do the job, but at least we get nicer graphics of of it. Sorry, rant over. Time to change over the LP and put more coal in the Arga. 😀

[@Peter-DOC-Docter]

Nice stories, and good luck with the book, hope all the people in it, also receive one.

[@pimozidecentre9189]

Hi Freddy, loved Declan's letter. Whilst recently bike shopping, I had a look at the F900GS and can confirm that it is stunning, as is the R12 incidentally. It seems like all the bike one would ever need. It was more than i needed, I ended up with a less sexy but thoroughly excellent NX500. Keep up the great work!

[@weemark67]

I recently purchased an accessory loaded Yamaha MT07 on a mid23 plate. It has the low seat. I have a short 27 inch inside leg. Trade in prices are rubbish, due to the dealer needs to make a profit. So, after seeing you every week looking up good buys on Facebook marketplace. I decided to put my mint Honda Rebel 500 up for sale. Didn’t think it would sell, at this time of year. But after 3 weeks it has a new owner. I gained £1250, over the trade in over. I will miss the bike as It’s the only bike I can comfortably flat foot. The new owner has got a great bike. So with the money I have ordered a Datatool tracker for my MT. This only makes a £10 difference on the insurance, but peace of mind. I had one fitted to the Rebel.😊

[@everydaybiker]

Well done. Enjoy the MT, it's a joyful bike and an epic engine. If your riding ever starts to find the limits of the stock suspension, maxton racing will sell you fork cartrage upgrade kit and rear shock for about 600 quid that will take the bike to another level. Peace

[@paultaylor7184]

Just ordered! Thanks for that Freddy, another Christmas pressie sorted! With you on KTM, they refused to help Ewan McGregor and Charlie Boorman, BMW stepped in and the rest is history!

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

Thank you, Paul!

[@gzk6nk]

I've been to Ouarzazate on a BMW bike tour. Rode my 1150 GS from Cheshire to the Sahara and back. It was an amazing experience with a great bunch of people. I do remember that when we stayed in Ouarzazate it led to endless Tommy Cooper impersonations! "Wazzazat"! 😁

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

😆

[@cliveadams7629]

I think they used cameras to take pics back in the 70s. Much as they had for decades before and after.

[@ClassicalGas101]

91 year old New RE Gorilla rider, love it well done you 👍🏻🏍️

[@Leef3477]

About 8:00 in. You are SPOT on about governments disguising tax grab as enviormental protection. For example in Canada why tax us SO much to ride motorcycles and not incentivize it to save on fuel consumption? It is because they don’t care. I 100% agree with you Freddie!

[@garnet4846]

Canaduh is a clown country. I live here, I know.

[@specialized500]

@@Leef3477 Are you saying govts should only allow us to ride 125 cc motorbikes because they have good fuel consumption?

[@Leef3477]

@@specialized500Not even close. A Harley davidson with a great big 1.9l engine is cheaper on gas than 80% of the cars on the road in Canada. Im saying don’t penalize riders with high tax and insurance, because bikes are more fuel efficient, and they also ease traffic congestion, which also saves on fuel.

[@DirkGentley42]

Oddly enough there are never rules to effectively ban cars with massive engines doing just over 10 mpg. Electric cars are given tax breaks even though they are so heavy they do more road damage, and their "green" benefits are marginal - or at least unproven. I'd like to see a cradle to grave analysis on that personally.

[@Leef3477]

@ Yes I agree, and they shouldn’t be allowed to ban classic cars that suck a ton of gas. But give those EV incentive things to people buying bikes as they sip fuel (all of them) and ease congestion in traffic.

[@johnhawden4118]

The stories arent lost Freddie, we recant them round a fire in a field everytime we get together,.

[@BUGBYTE_]

I'm looking forward to the book. I just preordered it. Thanks Freddie. 🍻

[@simonryder4857]

Fantastic story about Peter Ray!! I’m 70 and next years annual tour of Europe will see me doing 2,500 miles around France in 12 days on my Multistrada. If Peter’s anything to go by I can look forward to another 21 years of touring, perhaps not on the Ducati but at least on my Triumph Scrambler 400 X which is so much lighter!! 😂😂

[@johngilbert7357]

Love the story of Sa'id, I had the 650 Bandit great bike! This will go on for Ever, Hope this lad has plenty of adventures on it!!😊

[@russthebiker]

That old guy is the same age as my dad , epic last year, my old man rode on the back of my Guzzi in the Lord Mayors Show I am a bit younger ( not much though) and looking forward to riding my Guzzi again, even bought a beeline 11 for it ready for a trip next year

[@waynemckinnon9250]

I've parked my street bikes and replaced touring with track days and racing. A Norton featherbed, and now have my eye on a Ducati TT2. Cheaper than a new sport bike.

[@jefflambert8603]

2020 I wanted a 650 - 700cc Bike My local Dealer Sold Kawasaki's & KTM.. my Heart was Saying KTM . Journalists were Raving about the 790s Scalpel like Handling. But in the End I got the less Exciting Kawasaki Z650 it's Never Given me any Problems Starts every Day Handles Well and It's at the Milage some KTM (not all) are getting Cam Problems. .. I would be getting a Bit worried now if I had Gone for The KTM

[@danielsale3805]

I own a k6 model 1200 bandit and I love it. They are amazing bikes and a bit of a do everything bike. Plenty of power for the roads and parts are plentiful.

[@paulcharlton2353]

Belated but Alles Gute zum Geburtstag Fred, I hope you had a great day.

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

Thank you so much, Paul!😀

[@dankorolyk5917]

Great job on another entertaining episode

[@HiViNewsByRegina111]

We need to resist all governments everywhere. Cheers from Germany

[@jasonhoward9029]

Ditto from Osnabruck

[@HiViNewsByRegina111]

@@jasonhoward9029

[@specialized500]

Don't be silly

[@mrcintheuk4641]

A classic meaningless sound-bite comment for people with short attention spans, which ironically is what governments do so well!

[@jackn4853]

Go on, don't keep us in suspense. How do you plan to resist your Govt? Sixth form revolutionary.

[@zerofighter42]

Freddie, last year I rode 5000+km around Morocco over 2.5 months with over half of that off-road, including two 160km waterless desert crossings. I saw countless numbers of big adventure bikes blasting along on the asphalt, often in a long line of a dozen or more, but only one motorcyclist riding off road (on a KTM). I talked to a few riders who were part of an organised tour who told me they were riding up to 400km daily. . It did make me feel at the time that they were all missing out and had exchanged quantity (of accumulated km) over quality of experience. So it was interesting to see that Sa'id chose that beautiful 1250 Bandit rather than a big adventure bike. BTW I was riding my Surly ECR bicycle.

[@peteduch2151]

As I understand ktm production was moved to China yet the pricing was Austrian and the product was not good enough shame

[@faraway5828]

Only the 790 (and some Asian only models) are MIC

[@richardbrooks4549]

It wasn’t. The vast majority are made in Austria!

[@WainwrightWalksWiaLocalLad]

You understand it incorrectly!

[@bimsb6]

The 125 and 390 duke are made in india .

[@faraway5828]

Per KTM: "CHINA The partnership between KTM and CFMOTO oversees the global production of the two LC8c models: the KTM 790 DUKE and the KTM 790 ADVENTURE. This strategic collaboration is instrumental in KTM's global production and distribution strategy."

[@donaldelder540]

Loved your rant about the rego across the ditch. I whole heartedly agree with what explanation about governments trying to make us live in a nanny state

[@andrewjuniper487]

Rego fees in NZ are high not because of environmental issues but due to our ACC (Accident Compensation Commission) fees, Motorcycle riders in essence cost more to the health service here when involved in an accident so previous Govt upped the ACC fees on motorcycle registrations, not saying the higher fees are right but don't assume it's related to environmental related issues. And some of these fees are used to fund rider training schemes, and other accident reduction schemes for motorcycles and to the health service here in theory.

[@williambell12]

Agree 👍

[@903lew]

Its a bit like the price of insurance isn’t it? When we as bikers stop crashing so much rates will go down.

[@FullmetalSP1]

@@andrewjuniper487 Based on his knee-jerk, reactionary response to the news, coupled with the comments that Freddie is liking, I think we now know all we need to know about Mr Freddie Dobbs. “We need to resist all governments, everywhere” gets a like? Good grief.

[@andrewjuniper487]

@@FullmetalSP1 Agree, Freddie does tend towards clickbaity behaviour at times but I have also seen he will run a correction when he's wrong, would be good if fact checked before he pontificated on stuff like this.

[@andrewjuniper487]

@@903lew Not naive enough to believe that would be the case but first we as riders would need to improve crash rates, certainly in terms of serious injuries and fatalities before we could test that hypothesis.

[@roddyb]

Happy Birthday Fred!

[@trailingarm63]

I foresee CF Moto attempting a reverse-takeover of KTM for the sake of the heritage, expertise, branding, etc, while shifting all production to China. What's going on in New Zealand? I thought the country was a bastion of commons sense. Sounds like it's all going south.

[@dwaynecorrea9775]

ANOTHER GOOD ONE!!! THX!!!

[@Simulera]

Well 50 years ago we collected incredible pictures because, believe it or not, cameras had been invented, color film and easy, cheap film processing! All invented! Crazy 🙃 bit true. Plus motorcycles had been invented. So pics of motos…. possible even 50 years ago. ( yes, i’m old!) . Great channel, keep riding and doing whatever this is!

[@graemetaylor629]

another nail in the coffin for ktm was the subscription service , what a rip off

[@babyjackism]

What subscription service?

[@johnharvey5338]

The BMW 850 GS is the same bike as the Voge 900, as you like the 850 you should get them to lend you one to test.

[@snakesocks]

I work in automotive. KTM has reported debt of ~€1.5Bn, but the inside rumour is that it's closer to €3Bn. Even if you don't ride KTMs, this is bad. Many dealers stock them and will take a massive financial hit if they can't shift their bikes. which means even more dealers may go bust.

[@0scartheCat]

when I was 16 I used to go to school on a Suzuki GT185 ( 2 stroke smell ) & pick my mate up at the bus stop, then see if we could get air over the train bridge, parked it around the corner then went to school.

[@WreckingCrewHR4K]

Well chosen Well capable Well deserved choice for Bike of the week even though it's late boxer engine cousins still have what it takes to tour the globe with ease and comfort,...PS, Great to hear that you went ahead with your book, I will be putting an order in for "The Lost Biker Story's" after the Christmas Rush,... OAP Wales UK.

[@dannyhampshire2825]

Enjoyed that Freddie nice one

[@thebrowns5337]

Freddie just read my comment from his last video out! I got chills😊

[@CarlosTilbury]

hi Freddie, I bought a 1200 bandit as my first big bike after passing my test, I must have been crazy! I sold it for a 1200 GSA, but I do fancy buying another one!! keep up the great content.

[@decordelights_]

the bandit is a very very reliable pretty much unbreakable , the older models are solid but you gotta be a careful driver to handle all that torque with no traction and no abs .

[@DiscoFang]

Hi Freddie, New Zealander here. It's worth putting those bike registration charges into perspective. An average petrol powered car is around $100 per year. My 3L diesel is $170 per year. Annual bike charges of $800 is utter insanity. The fundamental reason/justification is accident and injury costs borne by other taxpayers.

[@joedudz]

If they cared about the environment air travel would be stopped immediately as one of the worst polluters. Motorcycles are one of the most economical and environmentally friendly methods of transport. Why would any government discriminate against them?

[@Snoozzzzzze]

Don’t give them ideas ! They already tax air travel although that was admitted to be for revenue not environmental concerns. Private jets would obviously be allowed to continue anyway.

[@merzto]

My bike uses 4,5l / 100km which is as much as my mother's small car. And there are plenty bikes that use more

[@volt8684]

Yeah and starmer 17 foreign trips in 6 weeks. The royals flitting around the world. Planes are the worst. The priveleged ignore this and tell us we have to drive electric cars

[@kevindarkstar]

Because they don't like bikes and never have

[@nicolasetherton2534]

They get driven around in 5 litre Range Rovers, hypocrisy at it’s finest.

[@Uncle_Tijikun]

A friend of mine had a dorso duro. Amazing bike, he wrecked it in a crash. He still misses it even though he has a triumph now. Auch a cool bike

[@alistairrobinson3865]

I have a theory, Ewan Mcgregor and Charlie Borman are the most commercially influential bikers ever to have lived, 20 years ago bmw gs1100 were still relatively obscure bikes, but then they did their tv shows and the entire bike market pivoted to huge adventure bikes as BMW marched away to dominate sales. The unintended consequence is that now younger people are wondering why the hell are bikes so huge and expensive?!!! 😂

[@kevindarkstar]

24:00 engine built by Loncin 😊

[@kevinwheatley1097]

I did have a test ride on a 890 KTM last year but was very annoyed that they give you all the bells and whistles to try as they are built into the bike, they switch themselves off after a month and then you have to pay to have them unlocked. The dealer unlocks all the 2nd hand bikes for free to make them easier to sell. Scandalous behavior. I walked away.

[@NickyLong89]

I agree about the 850GS, it’s a lovely looking bike and i was very close to buying one, then i test rode the CF Moto 800MT and bought that instead, i just couldn’t ignore the value for money, i am very pleased with my purchase but the 850GS was very tempting, certainly a lot more tempting than the 1200GS.

[@jeremycraveiro]

In Canada it’s over $700 per year for registration on most bikes and $1800 per year if you ride a supersport 🥲

[@dodgerboe]

Trudy and His Commie Counterparts will have to make that a bit more painful.. surely the carbon offset taxes will be saving the planet so he can jet set of his gay party's?

[@monkeyzx9]

KTMs reputation took a hit with the chocolate cams, but it has always been questionable at best. They also lost out on the “Long way round” deal when they refused to supply bikes to Ewan and Charlie, some say they didn’t trust even their own machines. With regards to rider aids…none of my bikes have them, a 1998 Zx9r (138bhp), a FireBlade 954 (154bhp track bike) and a 2011 CB1000r (130bhp), I’ve never ridden a bike with them apart from my Mrs’ Speed 400 (which is a cracking little bike). You should really try a Trackday Sir, you would get such a thrill.

[@903lew]

That BMW room that punt really (really) paid off. The bikes even broke and still the great publicity must have sold more than 50 thousand GS’s of all shakes and sizes since then. That KTM missed out on that cash cow is…quite unbelievable. Then again, KTM durability being what it is (and was!), would the boys have made it out of the EU?

[@hailwood900]

My son and I were talking about Long Way Round just the other day and wondering what happened to the KTM marketing guy who told Ewan that they didn't believe they'd make it, so didn't want to associate their brand with the trip. Now working in the basement, folding press releases and stuffing envelopes... The biggest wrong decision in the 90 year history of the company. Think of being that guy. PS: It's fun to go back and watch the LWR episodes. The disorganization was embarrassing and the camera equipment is a laff. But adventure - amazing.

[@903lew]

@ Not sure if I’d be riding if not for that show tbh. The sense of adventure was, for the time, quite amazing. Regarding the assumption of they’d make it or not I’m not sure they would’ve on KTMs. Those GSs weren’t that powerful and with mr Boorman pulling wheelies and showing off I’m fairly sure they’d have crashed out worse than they did. The easy of maintenance on those air cooled boxers must’ve also helped when they decided to use them as submersibles in Siberia.

[@monkeyzx9]

@ yea I found it very influential at the time. I was already riding bikes but I learnt more about Eastern Europe etc than I ever did at school.

[@chrisdowns3725]

I tried to persuade my grandad to submit some stories, he was one of the original ton up boys. I'll buy him a copy and hopefully he will submit some for volume 2.

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

Please do, Chris!!:)

[@the.communist]

So do cfmoto engines have those camshafts problems as well?

[@benplaysbass2491]

No, they don't thankfully. It seems that the Chinese engineers made the necessary changes to the cylinder head and oil pump to resolve the camshaft issue.

[@rickhjortsberg2711]

Just bought a Royal Enfield Classic 350 in Halcyon Green. Love it. Sad about KTm but does Cf Moto suffer the same maladies in n design and mfg (as KTM)?

[@pujapete3665]

how much ??????

[@tnetroP]

There will be some new KTM owners that now won't be able to pay dealers to unlock those features such as cruise control after the initial 1k period. NEVER buy a bike or car that relies on dealers to unlock features.

[@laddie9999]

Rego is $424 pa in Western Australia for a bike

[@v795619]

Great content as always Freddie 😀 Question - could CFMoto engines have the same cam shaft issues (sorry if I missed something)?

[@ZZR1200ZX]

When was the last time anybody saw a Politician on a motorcycle?

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

Funnily enough, Michael Gove is apparently quite a big motorcycle fan, and he was at the Bike Shed Show 2023, and give heard from someone in the industry that Boris Johnson was one of the first to buy a new Goldstar for both him and his dad. I can’t confirm if either are true, and apart from these two exceptions, I strongly agree with you. This is especially apparent in London, where for some insane reason there are many bus lanes that motorcyclists aren’t allowed to use- creating more danger and forcing more traffic

[@MrB1967]

Lembit Opik was the chair of the All Party Motorcycling Group in the HoC, was communications director for Motorcycle Action Group and was, for a while, hanging out of the back of both of the Cheeky Girls. Word 😎

[@holeephuk]

In Australia £400 for bike registration,and than you need at least that much for insurance 🥱

[@ClassicTrialsChannel]

Almost 3 billion loss. i find it hard to see them getting out of it.

[@BOZr-l9r]

Never had one never wanted one so I won’t personally be affected but this is what happens when large companies become greedy and sell budget built bikes for profit 😮

[@richardwebster7740]

Road tax (rego) here in Victoria Australia for my Moto Guzzi cost me than it does for my 4x4 ute (pick up). It is approx $830.00 (£410.00)

[@maxflight777]

8:01 good comments about government overreach Freddy. 🎯🎯🎯

[@903lew]

While I enjoy the gammony conspiracy talk the NZ-plan is actually quite sensible from what another commenter explained. Must keep the insurance rates down if nothing else? See, the problem in countries with public health insurance is that we bikers crash a lot. That’s fine and all but someone has to foot the bill at the end of the day. Considering the cost of healthcare these days I’d dread the day we as a collective actually have to pay what we could potentially cost society as a whole.

[@maxflight777]

FFS Freddie, you don’t run up a €3 billion debt pile, just because of a handful of 790 camshaft problems. The financial woes are related to massive numbers of unsold bikes, excessive losses and stupid errors such as the acquisition of MV Augusta.

[@oliverashton4141]

Ive got a 125 and 1200 and my insurance is £450... no claims and three years on the road... its £106 an hour to get a decent garage to look at my bike and the parts cost s fortune. That's without road tax. Its costing me a fortune.

[@thetreadtrader7565]

BSA group were at one time biggest in the world. Poor management always. Who would take on KTM in this current world.

[@WainwrightWalksWiaLocalLad]

"Self administion" is not going bust. KTM have a trading arrangement with CF Moto, neither has any money in the other. Bajaj has a 49% stake in the KTM/Pierer Mobility group.

[@mrcintheuk4641]

Yes, going into administration is generally an accounting way of halting loan repayments, renegotiating debt, making staff redundant without payouts and looking for financial backers, etc, without actually going bust. However, if this can't be achieved they will go bust.

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

Very interesting re Bajaj- thank you for sharing this

[@MV-XD2]

€3Bn in debt might well make them fold. It’s likely that only Bajaj would be prepared to step in or risk losing their investment but I gather Pierer has already ruled that out? I can’t see CF bailing them out - they could just wait for them to fold then buy the brand name for peanuts. They already have the IP anyway.

[@lipsee100]

Self Adim might not be going bust per sei,,, but lets face it ,it might as well be.. I mean who in there right mind would pay full price(or even heaverly discounted) price for a fully loaded 1290 these days... I doubt anyone will take on KTM,they maybe able to borrow more money,but I would not bet on it....

[@jeffreywatson3534]

Ack! I was leaning into a Husqvarna 801. How will they be affected? Does anyone know?

[@TheHUNTERTIGER]

Are you looking to share some of your book profits with your contributors of the used stories & photos or is it to be all profit to yourselves? Would be interested to know as without them the book would not have been possible

[@davidcoleman4941]

I've recently sold my two Yamaha adventure bikes my T700 and Super Tenere 1200 both new. And due to Anxiety attacks I now ride RE HIMALAYAN and RE Classic 350cc desert

[@mantarayal]

Kiwi here. Sold my last bike a while ago and I felt relieved because I no longer had to pay the NZ regoistration which was TEN times more expensive than our cars. It is to do, apparently, with our accident compensation system whereby certain (nearly all) accidents are covered in terms of ongoing care. All good. However, motorcycle accidents are deemed the fault of the rider (basically), but you can play contact sports like rugby, and break any bone in your body, or go skiing and break any bone in your body, and it is deemed a no fault injury. I believe anyone who plays sports such as these should be held financially responsible for their injuries. Why should the rest of us pay for their decisions? Motorcycling on the other hand, soothes the soul and benefits the planet. We should be paid to ride.

[@DiscoFang]

Yep it's a valid point about other sports injuries and ACC coverage. I think even more pertinent is that mountain biking or road cycling as a sport or just your average commuter incurs ZERO charges.

[@sirkitchalott]

🏍️ Re ktm... Yes I own a 1290... Quote from MCN "KTM confirm goodwill scheme will cover the costs of all historic and future LC8c camshaft repairs "

[@bettermanxx]

Just a little side note my daughters boyfriend has been buying and flipping KTM supermotard s and other off road 400 - 490 ? KTM Models and pretty much all of them have really bad case hardening issues with cams gears this has caused many problems as luck would have it we have a great engine guy

[@Larr3y]

I know this is about ktm but what will happen to husqvarna

The Road tax for bikes here in Sweden is 180SEK per year, that's about 15 Euro. It doesn't matter what Capacity the engine has. Most bikes here is only driven 4-5 months per year and very seldom over 3000km per year. I guess there is more to say about taxing motorcycles in countries where you can ride 12 months per year.

[@everydaybiker]

Hey. Great video as always. Can I ask, do you know what is included in the new Zealand registration? I know the Australian one includes the minimum insurance requirements to ride on the road.... 350 quid for road tax and insurance sound pretty good to me. Cheers

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

Thanks🙌🏻 I’ve just got a screen shot of the insurance docs, so I may share them in tomorrow’s episode:)

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

2024 is becoming an Annus Horribilis for motorcycling...such a shame.

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

It’s been a brutal year

[@peteduch2151]

@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne that's also a great description of the governement

[@FullmetalSP1]

7:33 - I cannot stand this strand of reactionary nonsense in the motorcycle community. You have no idea why the registration price has increased, the economics of life or transport in NZ, or any information other than what Roy gave you, yet you feel absolutely confident that this is designed to “price people out of motorcycling”. How about you gather all information before forming an opinion?

[@specialized500]

@@FullmetalSP1I agree it is extremely lazy to make these statements without doing any research . Many vloggers are the same and I find it annoying .

[@DirkGentley42]

And then the of the cuff assumptions become accepted as "truth". Yeah, we need less of that.

[@blacksheepspaniard3978]

I was in the market for a 2024 Husqvarna Vitpillen 401 but now I’m hesitant …

[@richardbrooks4549]

@@blacksheepspaniard3978 Why?

[@blacksheepspaniard3978]

@ Why? because KTM owns Husqvarna and now the uncertainty of Self Administration… gonna be waiting the 90 days cause that’s what they said… In other words that’s when they’re going to have a public statement… But my hesitation is if they by chance drop Husqvarna from their portfolio, who knows how that’s gonna affect production and or contractual obligations in terms of manufacturing parts for specific models

[@richardbrooks4549]

@ Your contract is with the dealer, not KTM.

[@blacksheepspaniard3978]

@@richardbrooks4549 no I’m not talking warranty, I mean 5,6,7 years down the road if I need a part after warranty expires… again my concern is if they will be still manufactured

[@richardbrooks4549]

@ You think you won’t be able to get a part? You do know that if they go bust they will resurrect with new owners? KTM are not going to disappear! Just maybe their current owners will

[@basmca1]

Not even 300 bucks for yearly registration? Idk but that doesn't sound odd to me. Given the costs of fuel, insurance and maintenance i doubt that many people will be send over the edge by 25 bucks a month for registration. Don't get me wrong, i am not a fan of it, but to me it doesn't sound crazy at all. I pay about €250 for my GS1200 and €500 for my Kia Rio hatchback. I used to pay about €750 for my Alfa 147. Diesels start at about €1000 a year all the way up to like €3000 a year for a large diesel SUV or pickup. But Netherlands has always had expensive road taxes so i am used to it.

[@thebrowns5337]

I pay £117/year for my Moto Guzzi V7 but £25/year for my filthy VW Golf diesel - road tax/vehicle excise in the UK isn't anything to do with encouraging eco choices. It's not even linked to road maintenance any more. It's baffling where the money goes and how they get to the figures they want.

[@MrVulcan1963]

Something up with this video. The volume goes up and down without rhyme or reason. Not the normal excellent Freddie production value.

[@SamOnABikeSweden]

I've been looking at the CFMoto 450mt, fun bike to ride but the fact is I dare not to buy it, due to reliability concerns. CF Moto being affiliated with KTM doesn't help at all!! Quite the opposite, is it a KTM in disguise? Does this bike have the same reliability issues? And im not only talking about the cam issues, how about the electronics? Only the future will tell abot CF's reliability... until then I keep on buying japanese motorycles.

[@johngittins6244]

I respect KTM for the off road ability, but a bit like an Alfa Romeo. I’m put off buying one due to a poor reputation around reliability. Why risk it when there are lots of great and reliable motorcycles out there.

[@triumphthunderbird1]

Always thought, just as far as looks go, KTM bikes had fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down! Not surprised they have gone bust. Only surprise it has taken so long. Chinese brand will take the brand on (such that it is).

[@TheZanshen]

KTM =keep taking money (people’s)

[@johnstonstewart9683]

Rather than the bmw900gs why not look at the voge 900 ? Same bike different price....

[@cliveadams7629]

Cheese prices rise, KTM goes bust. Coincidence?

[@thebrowns5337]

lol

[@philg7889]

KTM sounded a tad arrogant when they turned down Boorman and McGregor, and Long Way Down. Who does that? BMW made a fortune on the back of it, and became instantly famous for their GS.

[@903lew]

One does hope that the PR-person at BMW responsible for that got a bonus, a raise and his picture on the wall at the factory. His/her counterpart at KTM must surely have gotten a constant bollocking over the issue.

[@stuartosborn4785]

KTM reaping what they've sown . Had a new KTM in 2018 . Thing was glitchy from day 1 . I swore never KTM again . Seems i wasnt in a minority !

[@bikerbuddy3166]

Perfect timing I’ve just finished work 👌

[@tuesdayatdobbs]

I hope you enjoy it!

[@bikerbuddy3166]

@@tuesdayatdobbs as ever I loved it and just what I needed to pick me up never stop being you one day I will have to tell you more about my adventures as a development test rider 👌