Kurzweil K2700 VS NORD STAGE 3

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[@kukubara2007]

Cannot choose. This is why I have PC3k and Nord Stage 3 in my studio. Love both instruments.

[@RaphaelBraun]

Obviously both keyboards are top of the line. I once spent an entire day playing around with those two (Kurzweil Forte in my case) in a huge music store. I can totally recommend doing that, as you can directly compare playing a real Stainway-D or Baby Grand with the keyboards. Also comparing real Rodes and a Hammond B3s directly gives another perspective. As most people agreed, the Kurzweil factory preset sounds are closer to the real deal, which becomes extremely obvious in the direct comparison. Still I think there is no objective 'better" or "worse". I think in comparison the Nord is quite limited when it comes ro combining and creating new sounds, however what it can do is directly exposed to physical controllers in the user interface. This makes it easier to do everything it can do and to mess around on the fly. I think if you buy a top of the line Kurzweil and you don't spent the time to learn V.A.S.T, you literally only even get like 10% of the value out of your investment. The limits with those Keyboards are your imagination in terms of creative power. The Nord is not even a player in that game. So it completely depends on what you want. For me "cutting through the mix" is only an argument if you don't have a sound engineer who knows what she is doing. For live music both of those Keyboards will be amazing and their sound quality probably overkill for most venues. I got the Kurzweil in the end. I preferred the sounds, action and I enjoy nerding out about building new sounds (Masseffect Reaper Horns 🤘lets go!). But all of that is subjective. My only recommendation would be: give both a try - to me listening to someone playing, and playing an instrument myself makes a huge difference. Be open minded to change and most of all, have fun with whatever instrument you've decided to get.

[@terrancereed5285]

Absolutely my only reason for going with the Nord is I am blind and it is much user-friendly however there are other keyboards out there that I really enjoy the sound of but their interface was not designed for individuals with site limitations

[@ChrisJones-uc6tb]

Kurzweil. I did nearly the same thing before I bought the PC3X. I bought a PC4 recently. The reviews say it's more user-friendly , but I HATE the Italian key bed. Play Fatar for 30 years and you will know what I mean. Nord has a better key feel, but yhe Kurzweils have "the sound".

[@EstebanCarvallo]

​@@terrancereed5285wow!! I'm not blind but have trouble seeing up close, so that is the only reason I went with the Nord. User friendly, tactile on the fly switch pads strings etc @kurzweil

[@penponds]

Yep - the Kurzweil has it. Definitely closest to a “real piano”. That’s the only criteria that matters here!

[@richardjanes1695]

I fell, in love with the Kurvweil 2700 Keyboard.. I love all the sounds.. Originally, I was going to purchase the Kurzweil SP7 Grand.

[@johneli495]

Both sound great. Maybe the Kurzweil sounds slightly better

[@paulwheatcroft8916]

The K2700 is so much more capable than the Nord. It isn’t fair to compare them on just a few keyboard sounds. I know it’s subjective but the Kurtz sounds demonstrated here are very good.

[@dberrimi9]

For $2k less, I'll take the K2700. Great video. Thanks.

[@gerhardandreasschreiber4531]

Playing Kurzweil is like driving an Aston Martin. Every time you compare it to another machine, it may sound more spectacular at first, but the cup always goes to the Kurzweil in the long run.

[@johnanderson9494]

Kurzweil is hard to repair and find parts for just like an Aston Martin.

[@penponds]

Surprising number in favour of the Kurzweil, and I agree!! It is simply a lot closer to a regular acoustic piano. Nord, in comparison, and as several have already commented sounds heavily compressed. Kurzweil regains it’s crown - and that’s ignoring its workstation / controller / VAST synth capabilities.

[@ohlivery]

O kurzweil dá uma sensação mais realista dos timbres...

[@ayeminnlatt6772]

Thanks for sharing your video. I like KW 2700. And I thank you all of you.

[@pawelsz95]

Ale różnica charakterów. Nord jest o wiele bardziej szczegółowy, ale jednocześnie ma nienaturalnie ostry atak i jakby kompresję na dzień dobry.

[@Ethaniel_UK]

I think I will sell my yamaha moxf 8

[@thxrush]

Kurzweil takes the cup.

[@RicardoJMarins]

Great video! Tks!! Could you make a video about the organs sound?

[@cactoosdh0]

Juz mialem pisac, ze "masz cos z kablami na glownym wyjsciu/wejsciu do interfacu, bo strasznie szumi momentami ( z przewaga na prawy kanal )", ale okazalo sie ze to ja mam cos z potencjometrem ;] Dzieki za kolejny konkretny test !

[@zulfikarozfndk2950]

Kurzweil perfect 👍👍👍

[@LeoMaineCoonCat]

Это отличный обзор. Как по мне так курц звучит мягче как классический инструмент

[@user-on5qx7cy4w]

Норд напомнил мне беларусь фано.

[@w.richmond7747]

surprisingly kurzweil (when especially considering the stereo width feel of rhodes part)

[@DavidIzquierdoAzzouz]

Samples are pretty much the same, Nord guys knew where to boost the treble so that it sounds more pleasant, not necessarily more realistic in my opinion, but there's clearly some frequency where they do that, still very good result, nothing that some of us wouldn't have done with and external eq maybe, just I guess

[@yvawoo]

Similar. Nord has slightly more high frequencies and more compressed sound than Kurz. This makes it sound more processed. That is not necessarily bad in mixing or playing with other instruments. Kurz sounds more natural. The original pianos Kurz sampled seem to have more softer hammer. That would create darker and warm sound, better suited for classical music and piano solo. Slight EQ will probably make both sound almost identical. My main piano is Steinway L made in early 2000s. As a piano player, I would choose Kurz over Nord when it comes to sound only. But, key action is as important as sound. I wish someone plays some demanding piano pieces on those digital pianos to compare piano actions.

[@VadimShinnik]

Disappointed with Kurzweil. What's the use of good sample quality and weight if it sounds like "not fish, not meat". Kurzweil is years behind. Nord initially had its own zest in the sound of the piano, the nature of the sound speaks for itself a lot. I agree about sharp mid-high frequencies, but this is not critical, but adjustable through EQ and Piano Filters (Soft, Mid, Bright). + the effects of Nord a bit above will be. So that you understand me correctly, I do not belittle Kurzweil, and I do not exalt Nord. I have my own favorite) If you are interested, go to my channel and immediately understand what I mean ;)

[@dynoroad]

@@VadimShinnik Verbal diarrhoea

[@VadimShinnik]

@@dynoroad I see) You need to monitor the purity of your thoughts. With the same success, you can take the MOON in the reflection of water for ...?

[@RaphaelBraun]

I think it is hard to judge the action of a Keyboard by the performance of someone else. That person might have very different preferences to you and play any piece just perfectly on a Keyboard with an action that might feel terrible to you. Try it yourself if you can. I really love the (according to reviewers apparently soft) action of the Kurzweil Forte. However for me it feels just right, even compared to the big grand pianos.

[@vitaliypredoliak2124]

@@VadimShinnik Учи английский, дружище. Не знаю чем ты пользовался для перевода, но не годится однозначно. Только русскоязычный сможет понять, что ты хотел сказать.

[@jerzypawowski4787]

Osobiście lepiej mi pasuje brzmienie Nord, jest "jaśniejsze". Ale Kurzweil też ma ciekawe "szerokie" barwy. To zależy kto czego szuka i do jakiej muzyki. Oba instrumenty są wysokiej klasy . Bez oceny który lepszy.

[@fredscott6372]

Like them both

[@stevesmith1493]

Nord is definitely more in your face but Kurzweill is a more natural sound. I would say Kurzweill in the studio and Nord live.

[@joeleasso4541]

Nice play

[@danyldaniel834]

From a keyboard player & Recording/Mix engineer's perspective: To my ears, one keyboard constantly produces a higher fidelity sound quality than the other, and it is most obvious in the Wurli department between 4:42-5:17. Whilst some may argue that a sound engineer worth anything should know how to fit any of these instruments in the context of a mix, the sound engineer part of me says "why fix it in the mix when you can fix it at the source". Considerations at the source may include adjusting mic positions, changing strings (guitars, etc), utilizing mics that complement specific acoustics and instrumentation best, and in some cases choosing the right instrument for the job. If you start at the source, your end product will always be better! Another thing to consider is that whilst a pianist will always be more familiar with the un-amplified natural acoustic tone of the instrument, the audience will almost never hear or know this sound- From my experience, raw sounds usually only work in intimate and/or classical settings, but still not in a very busy orchestration. If you've ever had to mix a real grand piano with a live band, you'd know how quickly its 'warmth' and nuances become 'mud'. Whilst there are many miking techniques involved in getting an acoustic piano to sound beautiful and present in a mix, it only proves that a thoughtfully amplified sampled/modelled piano will win on stage.

[@missakhaladjian]

Your budget here is the best judge

[@impossible6329]

KURZWEIL's Piano Voice More Close Like Accoustic

[@kingrys2870]

Czy te słuchawki kurzweila są dobere? bo K2700 wspaniały!

[@TonyMusicArts]

You would be so fun to play with- in a band 🎉

[@romanarkfilm9354]

Great comparison and performance. I closed my eyes and had trouble, at times, to discern the two. However, I bought a K2700 today. I listened to comparisons with the Roland Fantom and the Yamaha Montage and the Kurzweil always sounded less "hyped". IMO the action on the Roland was nowhere near as good as the Kurzweil (Fatar?) and the Montage is at least 5 or 6 years old. I got a good deal from Just Music in Berlin for the K2700 and not looking back. Spent at least a grand less than either the Roland Fantom or the Yammy Motif.

[@romanarkfilm9354]

@@nachojara9346 It's a constant source of joy and inspiration. Don't even think I have managed to get through all of the presets yet 😅

[@MJamesIII]

I don’t know if it’s the velocity curve settings on each Keyboard, but the Nord is way louder than the Kurzweil.

[@grzegorzfiedorowicz]

Po zakupieniu i ograniu Keyscape stałem się bardzo wybredny jeśli chodzi o sound forepianów :D Kurz cieplejszy...

[@pablorios987]

Hello! , I would like to know if this is original samples or presets of the kurzweil k2700

[@g.a.vanamstel1520]

It s the original sample

[@przybyszzdaleka8957]

Is the first piece in comparison your improvisation or is it written by somebody? If this is composed, can I get a name of it, please? It's beautiful.

[@pesssdigio]

Which piano preset you play on k27?

[@chillwalker]

They sound astonishing similar, right?

[@MarvinMarkeys]

Kurzweil es superior. Además tiene V.A.S.T. lo que coloca a Kurzweil a años luz de Nord.

[@septiembremusica8886]

Que quiere decir V.A.S.T. y q tenga vast?

[@luisantoniozermeno5025]

Según yo es como el algoritmo que usa el teclado para hacer la síntesis de sonidos

[@MarvinMarkeys]

@@septiembremusica8886 Tecnología de arquitectura de síntesis variable, es un motor de síntesis creado por Kurzweil el cual permite cambiar o conectar las diferentes partes individuales, como si fuera un sintetizador modular. Estas partes a la vez se pueden manipular con los diferentes controles físicos o por medio de Fun’s (funciones matemáticas), ADSR, LFO etc. Es muy potente pero a la vez require conocimientos para sacarle partido. La creación de sonidos en Kurzweil parece infinita porque el poderoso V.A.S.T. también lo puedes combinar con samples y síntesis FM.

[@jocblues]

@@MarvinMarkeys excelente explicación Marvin, gracias.

[@ltinti]

K2700 está muito bom!

[@MASTRAO88]

GREAT JOB MEN!!

[@franklindmurphy]

Kurzweil has so many more layers. Sounds way better. Plus the action on the Kurzweil is better. Nord action is not to my liking.

[@dixienormis3614]

Kurzweill all day over the Nord

[@ToXball]

nuance and sound field I prefer by far Nord Stage

[@the80386]

The Nord will cut through mixes better but the Kurzweil has a beautifully rich and realistic tone.

[@RaphaelBraun]

Cutting through the mix is literally part of mixing. If it is needed you can easily take away the richness and add more punch, or make space in the frequency bands for different instruments, or place instruments differently in the stereo field to make space without changing the sound roo much (in a record). The question to me as musican is as simple as this: what do you prefer to play? This is what yo should play.

[@MJamesIII]

Sounds like the velocity curves are set differently. Maybe that’s what you’re hearing.

[@slowlynow9]

What does cutting through mixes better mean?

[@slowlynow9]

@@RaphaelBraun so what exactly are you saying? Nord better? Serious question

[@RaphaelBraun]

@@slowlynow9 no, both are great choices. Which is better depends on your usecase and personal preference. I happen to prefer the 'feel' of playing and working within the Kurzweil - however I don't dare to say that it is better because of that. It just better resonates with me. I'd say try them all at a store and decide for yourself what you like best. The Keyboards have different workflows for generating new sounds or manipulating existing ones. Depending on how you think about sounds and how to combine them to you will become more happy with one or the other in the long run. Considerations like the ability to cut through the mix are pointless at that level. Even without a sound-enginer - on both keyboards you can change the "hardness" of every sound to your liking by moving a single slider or turning a knob respectively. You have access to builtin multi band parametric equalizers if you want to go crazy.

[@jamessmith6395]

Kurzweil hands down!

[@ggascot]

Kurzweil all the way 🎹

[@geraldladera]

Nord is Magic - Kurzweil is Wildly Real

[@magnomarcio2212]

O timbre do nord é mas quente 🔥

[@andrewniz9212]

Cool channel! Like and subscribe! Thank you dear colleague for your work!

[@muzykujkropkacom]

Thx:)

[@MKA63]

I think the Kurzweil has a better lower register.

[@DerikPiano]

Kurzweil. You get a lot more for your money and not far behind from the Nord.

[@theclaverman]

So what you’re saying is : Kurzweil is best, because it is cheapest. And then you’re saying that Kurzweil is not far behind from the Nord?? This statement does not make any sense. What you’re really saing is that the Nord is best. But… if Nord really is best, then what on earth has price to do with this matter??

[@alanjackson5911]

@@theclaverman He saying for the price Nord don’t sound 2,000 dollars better. You can tweak that Kurzweil to sound exactly or better than that nord. Everyone always go by factory presets. That’s really a starting point that the company made for their taste. Yes some presets sound better than others but that’s what music is all about learn your keyboard and learn how to program it yourself,If people learn how to tweak their keyboards you probably would’nt be buying one every couple years.

[@jovicamargit8948]

Nice, pretty dead race as well :)

[@88mokeyz8k]

The Nord Output is hotter! both keyboards are even! If I had to choose one it would be the K2700 IT Does more for the ! 💰💸💸💸💸💸💸💰💰🤑🤑🤑🤑

[@tamasszucs143]

I like Kurzweil much better.

[@sharingmatters]

Nord has a much louder and "surround-like" sound. What do you think?

[@muradsadiqov07]

Nord stage 3👍

[@neilloughran4437]

Not digging the C7 in the Kurzweil... the Steinway was great though... I think Yamaha nailed the C7 sound on their CP88.

[@danielcolfer4671]

Sonically based on the patches played they are quite similar in quality. The action on the stage does not meet my preferences. I have a Nord piano 5 and the action is “better “ than the stage 3 88 but the relationship between sound and feel on the k2700 is matched up quite well. Of course the kurtz can do so much more than the stage in terms of sequencing, interaction with the pads and so on and when you factor in vast the stage 3 really falls behind. The organ on the Nord is more authentic and the Leslie sim gets the nod. But… when you compare the over 5k price of the Nord stage 3 and the $2999 price of the K2700 …. the choice is even more obvious.

[@miguesilvalomelin5601]

El nord BEST for me.

[@duque5582]

quizá sea mi percepción pero me parece que el Kurzweil k2700 suena mejor más natural más real con un nivel del 99,9% de realismo más cercano al piano de cola

[@stevesmith1493]

The PC4 sounds exactly the same as the 2700 for only $1999

[@TylerInTraining]

In terms of sound that’s correct. In terms of physical features such as the sample pads, onboard ribbon controller, metal chassis; the K offers a bit more. I’ve been going back and forth on how much those extra features are worth it myself.

[@lovehalfblack9420]

The Nord sounds like the “real thing” that it’s emulating but the Kurz sounds more magical and modern. Maybe better than the “real thing”?

[@abdielvelazquez773]

The Kurz.

[@Thach102]

Kurzweil

[@silahits]

Os sons do Kurzwel e mas agradável, o morde muito estridente

[@matthewsohn5220]

Is it meaningful comparison? Virtual Instruments (ex KeyScape) have developed drastically nowadays. It seems meaningless thing that comparing H/W synth’s sounds like this.

[@tonylancer7367]

You don't always have the option to carry with you a laptop, and sometimes you just need to get up and running on the keyboard.

[@vladlen3978]

Nord 👍🎉

[@MarcosAntonio-qn1wl]

Resumindo o motor sonoro é o mesmo , pra tira a duvida da turma escutem com os olhos fechados e esqueça marcas pois os olhos atrai o que ver ...

[@joelbertmenezespereira5516]

Melhor comentário, impossível.

[@kai-helmarklein1957]

The nord has to much mud in the lows. Kurz more straight, linear over the whole keys.

[@eugenemichael2362]

Owned the Nord 2 of them-pianos suck-own the K2700 LOVE IT 🥰

[@user-ft1jf3zf9e]

Both keyboards sound beautiful, but the nord piano sounds a lot richer even on the upper right keys

[@alphasxsignal]

Kurz

[@New_Hope_Music]

Nord the Best!! 👏

[@Miguel-yu3we]

2:50 lol kurzweil the best

[@danielminhao9293]

The Nord's sound is more open, more treble. It's getting to bother me. However, I believe it is equalization. I love Kurzweil's piano, but I think Nord's piano is slightly superior. Very little difference. I listened again and changed my opinion. The kurzweil is more realistic.

[@dandelfo5855]

Fazendo uma análise bem leviana da situação posso concluir: O nord comparado com esse k2700 ia se sair melhor no ao vivo, seus timbres são prontos pra isso, de resto o K2700 passa por cima. Eu acho engraçado esses vídeos comparativos kk um stage piano vs workstation kkkk tipo comparar a maçã com a melancia. Pra ser uma análise justa , compara as funções tbm kkkkk Timbre até o Kontakt tem e aos montes.

[@dionewillmann8723]

O certo seria comparar sons de piano com pianos reais e ver qual o mais realista, o mesmo para os rhodes e hammonds. Eletrônicos como synth, leads e pads não precisa, basta usar os efeitos e controladores de ondas que vc chega no som que quiser. No entanto, o k2700 tem um FM dentro, aí o bixo pega. O Nord é bom, mas não é pau para toda obra. Se eu separar meus pianistas/tecladistas de jazz preferidos e consagrados, até mesmo do gospel e pop a maioria esmagadora iria de Yamaha.

[@domi1748]

Pareil pour les deux

[@jamespelen5754]

Nord has warm sounds

[@bilozkip998]

Nord 👍

[@Miguel-yu3we]

2:50 seriously?

[@goldiemusic8394]

My playing is so bad I can make a $2000 keyboard sound like a $50 one.

[@RaphaelBraun]

Best comment 😂

[@BandBMusicDuo]

Kurzweil wins IMHO

[@MrMelBT]

I am very happy with my Nord Stage 3. For my use, the Kurzweil k2700 could form a perfect partner with the NS3. The only drawback of the K2700 is the weight. So a (k2700-7) lighter version was desirable for a live musician.

[@kurzman2308]

Kurzweil~~

[@ronb6182]

Nord all the way more rich sound with this video which could mean a lot of things unrelated to either keyboard. I always liked the mark 4 by kurzwell until I heard the Nord keyboard especially the hammer action. 73

[@isaacnngt]

Kurzweil melhor!

[@bennyfsumarta3382]

Sound on nord is more realistic and rich.

[@rgf777rgf]

Мне больше понравилось звучание nord stage 3.

[@alan93]

very close, the best way to listen is to scroll the video out of view , then when you find one you like the sound of scroll up and see which one he's playing. Your eyes are biased. ears are not, they hear the truth.

[@theclaverman]

None of them sounds authentic when it comes to acoustic piano. Kurzweil sounds a little synthetic and the Nord is a too bright, but if I had to choose I would take the Nord over Kurzweil.

[@pinocarella_00]

Kurzweil è più caldo ma, Nord ha più mordente.

[@deivybueno9959]

ok, but still prefer the Stage. The rode is nicer in K2700 tho The Piano String Pad in Stage is simply so amazing that is impossible to bit...

[@JohnBarrylizard]

Stage 3 imho

[@jobmandem9559]

My thoughts - Kurz lows and highs are realistic, but the mids are muddy. Nord has an even EQ for all. So, the Nord sounds will cut through the mix better.

[@TZKeyz]

There's EQ on both units. I have an NS3 and a PC3K8, both are capable of "cutting through."

[@stevesmith1493]

I think Nord may win the C7 sample

[@Arian-abbas]

Very clear Kurzweil K2700 is better, It has mour nature and full sound .. Nord stage sound is thin and that not the best.

[@user-cr2gj8kw4e]

NORD brzmi bardziej prymitywnie i uproszczenie, prawda? Jest bardziej odpowiedni do szybkiego grania, gdy liczba alikwotów nie odgrywa specjalnej roli.

[@arnaud6777]

Kurzweil wins !!! imho

[@jemkeystv5717]

The Nord lacks the immense programming ability of the kurzweil, I mean you can even set your own split points on the Nord which to me makes no sense

[@ElliotPooley]

Model D - Kurzweil has a nicer, more open tone but decays too quickly, Nord is a bit more closed sounding but has more of a natural blend of the attack going into the resonance. Might be due to the lack of a damper resonance feature on the Kurzweil. Yamaha - Nord wins 1000x here, Kurzweil sounds really lifeless and again has no natural sustain. Listen to the difference in the repeated D especially at 1:47. Rhodes - difficult to tell when one has chorus and one doesn't, but both very useable sounds for different purposes. Wurli - Both sound cool in their own right but I think Nord wins here, it has the more mellow, mid scooped sound of a real wurli and the keyoff samples and general clunkiness really make it imo. The Kurz sounds a bit too polished for me. Pno+Str Pad I hate this sound in general so no comment lmao I think the Nord gets an unfair rep in a lot of these comparisons there are so many other piano samples which imo are better than these two like the Italian Grand (Fazioli) or the White Grand (Steinway B)

[@fragu123]

Nord always sounds so organic…. 👌

[@d3nnisparisis439]

Ya pas photo