Kyle Larson on Horsepower: "We Could Bring 1000hp Next Week" According To HMS | Dale Jr. Download

After the NASCAR Cup Series race at Phoenix this past weekend, the talk began to turn again to horsepower being a solution for the lack of passing on the race track.
Kyle Larson calls in to weigh in on the matter and drops a HUGE quote from Hendrick Motorsports on what is possible when it comes to horsepower gains and how quickly they could accomplish them.
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[@emill910gaming6]

I honestly don't care if the racing stays the same. Even though I'm sure it would get better. The top series of NASCAR should have high horsepower. It's embarrassing that grassroots cars have more horsepower than the top series of NASCAR.

[@nathan1sixteen]

It’s embarrassing that both the Truck and Xfinity Series run more horsepower (700hp) than Cup does (670hp) these days.

[@mighthookya2637]

Yea I find it really odd that it’s like that makes zero sense

[@Dream25_]

Exactly, at the very least for marketing you'd think they would want advertise a big number to talk about the cars they're driving.

[@keeganracer8300]

Xfinty runs 650 hp and trucks run lesser then that but still agree with comment they do need more horsepower on short tracks and road courses and eliminate shifter

[@oneslave3318]

Nascar has gone woke. It's their job now to go broke.

[@danielpeters4468]

I eould like to see so much horsepower that the driver cant possibly just hold it down and go then we'll see the real drivers in the field

[@V8_Diva]

You could get this if they just made the tire thinner. They have such a massive, thick, wide, tire on these Gen 7 cars that they literally cannot break loose in regular driving. If they kept 670 and reduced the tire size by like 30% it would be better. The problem with the gen 7 car is that they gave it SO MUCH downforce and grip and then reduced the horsepower numbers.

[@ethanweeter2732]

Well, too much HP and they also will blow out tires and go so fast it could get dangerous with crashes even on short tracks and road courses. With 1,000 HP on the high speed road courses, that become dangerous, as would Bristol.

[@ethanweeter2732]

@@V8_DivaThe wheels are bigger diameter, there is not as much tire in the event of a blowout, so going that much faster could get super dangerous.

[@danielpeters4468]

@ethanweeter2732 you can only go as fast as the track will allow you to go more hp will just make the racing more competitive and entertaining

[@briandolson2941]

Being 78 years old, and watching all forms of motorsport for 70 of those years, IMO the most entertaining series to watch were the ones where the rules at the time allowed much more horsepower than traction! As several people have commented here, that situation really allows the most talented drivers/riders to shine.

[@Michael-pi8ps]

I don’t know about that. Spec Miata has way more grip than horsepower and that’s some of the closest racing you’ll ever see

[@Thedudeabides803]

If they announced 1000 hp for the next races, you can bet attendance and viewership would skyrocket.

[@frankf2902]

Do it. It would make NASCAR the coolest series on the planet

[@waynemangan7200]

Again

[@travisburton2948]

Go back 10 years and watch the entire series. That was the peak of the sport post recession.

[@articlev7472]

More HP, less shifting. They have bigger brakes now, use them. Especially on shorter tracks. Some factory cars have more HP than NASCAR.

[@ethanweeter2732]

I am against having to shift so much. They should not be shifting on most tracks. It does add an element of talent to shift maybe, but road courses and Martinsville you can shift, not a fan of shifting at Bristol.

[@Jbro1851]

Need smaller brakes and smaller tires

[@waynemangan7200]

Lets keep in mind, the XFinity classic chassis race excellent at phoenix. I watched that race on Tuesday and was wildy entertained by the racing while the Cup cars hardly have comers and goers

[@nathan1sixteen]

What Xfinity race did you watch? I don’t believe there were any green flag on-track passed for the lead in Xfinity, and there were 2 in Cup. If it wasn’t for the massive pileup and then Algier blowing a tire late, that race was a snooze fest.

[@boobsball]

Agreed and xfinity has consistently put on the best races each weekend the past 5 years. I always look forward to Saturday.

[@waynemangan7200]

Diehard fan, but amen to that. @@boobsball

[@waynemangan7200]

Xfinity put on a great show there, multi groove racing all over. there were definitely a handful of green lead changes. Guess I'd ask you the same question.@@nathan1sixteen

[@bradgriffith4231]

Xfinity & Trucks run a 60+ year old GMC truck rear suspension. We have the cars in the cup series now because the manufacturers want something similar to what they build & sell which is exactly what they're racing. Cup cars today are closer to a "production" vehicle than they're been since the 60s, with independent rear suspension & transaxle, rack & pinion steering, coil over shocks, etc. ALSO, the spec car has reduced the cost & leveled the playing field, allowing the small teams to have the same parts as the major teams. Andy Petree stated that Childress was spending $3,500 PER A-arm on the front end when ALL costs, engineering, R&D, testing, manufacturing, etc were totaled. That's $14,000 not including the spindle uprights(which were probably at least another $3,500 each). The racing is the best it's been in decades. The top 3 cars crossed the finish line a mere .007 second apart at Atlanta, 15 different winners over the season now with the single source car parts, little teams winning somewhere other than Daytona & Talledega

[@AustinClark1996]

I think why NASCAR is hesitant is because they’re afraid of the cars getting so spread out around the track that only the top teams will prevail and the underfunded teams will go back to being backmarkers. NASCAR has the cars so close right now that even teams like FRM and Spire are decent. Although Spire is much better on the truck side. And I think they’re afraid of teams going back to blowing motors. I remember when that was almost a common thing on a weekly basis. NASCAR wants less DNF’s so they’re doing whatever possible to make that happen.

[@johnhaas2523]

Major factor

[@packisbetter90]

Blowing engines should be a part of racing.

[@Michael-pi8ps]

@@packisbetter90spoken like someone who isn’t paying to replace them

[@robh9577]

Take the bump stops off, give them a 5 inch valance height, stand the spoiler up, pile on the HP. Easy, 90s racing all over again.

[@johnhaas2523]

They don't have bump stops anymore

[@jamesemory1505]

Absolutely yes. Get the car off the ground by 3-6”. Rear diffuser never has made a difference so take it off too.

[@mikebutler4769]

In all the conversations on more horsepower I haven't heard anything about the impact on drivers when they wreck. Those bodies are so rigid the impact force to the drivers with more speed would definitely cause more serious injury to more drivers

[@spencerwright600]

Sounds like NASCAR got to Dale.

[@christianfehr8652]

He is a paid actor nowwa days

[@MXP90DL]

Hmm, maybe but I would rather think he is more than just a driver these days and being a team/car owner is giving him a bit different view that we are seeing.

[@therealBocaStudios]

That all want to be the favorite child

[@mitchell-wallisforce7859]

Didn't get that. Dude seems to be being diplomatic about this and trying to be optimistic. Ripping NASCAR to shreds isn't the only way of analyzing their decisions, and this is from someone who does nothing but hurl invective their way.

[@the8jrfan]

Let it happen!!!

[@johnnylightning1491]

The reason that NASCAR won't allow 1,000 HP is that NASCAR wants to keep the speeds under 200 mph for safety and insurance reasons.

[@johnhaas2523]

I don't think that's the case other than super speedways It's more about wanting pack racing

[@dakodaarmstrong5]

@@johnhaas2523yea the problem with 1000 horsepower the racing will go back to spread out and the fans have said how much they hate that

[@67comet]

Much like I was with "Smoke", I am a huge fan but I can't "wear the colors" for Kyle because I just can't get on board with them general motors cars. I hope he hangs well at the Indy 500, that would be a total highlight of the year right there. (AND hell yes give them boys 1000 horsepower)!.

[@therealBocaStudios]

I’ve been lost from the sport since Jeff Gordon left. I like JH Nemecheck and Ty Majeski but I’m really starting to cheer for Kyle, however, the issue with the playoffs means the drivers don’t need to “race” all year, your in the hunt and can ride easy until a few months from now

[@snooks250sx]

I 100% agree with shifting. Get rid of it. Shift only for road courses and maybe Pocono. Also put the H pattern back in.

[@nathan1sixteen]

Here’s the weird “catch-22” you run into. If you add Horsepower to the cars at Phoenix (whether it’s 750 or 1000), you’ll actually encourage drivers to shift with the current setup. Drivers road around in 4th gear all day, and only at the end of the backstretch did some of them shift to 5th, but most just bounced it off the reverse limiter at the very end of the straightaway. Increasing horsepower would mean the cars pick up speed faster, which would mean they’d be shifting mid-straightaway at Phoenix.

[@kevinbacon8716]

​@@nathan1sixteen That's if they keep the same ratios. They could and probably would change ratios to work better with the new horsepower numbers.

[@snooks250sx]

More horsepower means the cars could handle higher gear ratios so nascar could just eliminate 5 gear@@nathan1sixteen

[@nathan1sixteen]

@@snooks250sx I HIGHLY doubt they would move from 5 gears back to 4 gears, as that seemed to be one of the major “advancements” they made in the car

[@_red_scorpion_]

We all know that more time modulating the throttle and brakes will create better racing. Adding horsepower will absolutely increase that time.

[@EViLGrEEn42090]

DEI and ESG scores are the reason. No I don’t mean Dale Earnhardt Incorporated. That’s on Jim France.

[@aronapple7760]

Higher power would be a serious talent separator. It would add an extra degree of difficulty to the cars and likely lead to more excitement in the long run.

[@jimhagler2242]

Too much mud for me. I admire your determination. Thanks. Jim n Judy in Texas

[@DewkChronic]

when was the last time you heard, "It's a new track record'. they could make a short track 3 speed trans-axel

[@maxyearwood1085]

Until NASCAR goes back to cars with five lugs, and normal suspensions, they don't need more HP to create more wrecks and fence missiles. The new cars are a complete disaster. The drivers already complain about not being able to get a handle on on-the edge conditions. Every time they get on the track, it is Russian Roullet and Demo Derby conditions.

[@bradgriffith4231]

The current Cup car is the closest thing to a production car that they've raced since the 50s & they're running it because the manufacturers want them racing something like their selling. Xfinity & trucks run a 60 year old GMC truck rear suspension. The single source cars have lowered the cost so the little guys can come close to competing with the big teams when they all run the same parts. All you experts should go start your own racing series since you think y'all know more than the group that's been doing it for 70 years while EVERYBODY else went by the wayside. If ya want to make it better, bulldoze all the big tracks & only race at 1 mile tracks or shorter. Glad to see them going to Rusty Wallace's 7/8 mile track in Iowa this year.

[@bodvarson1933]

Anybody that knows what it takes to build HP has been saying that you can make more power without much more money this entire time. Happy this is finally getting out to the masses.

[@ethanweeter2732]

The expense comes when you have blown engines and more blown tires.

[@Lazyboy51]

The series NEEDS at least 850HP 900/1000 would be amazing. It would bring back a TON of legitimacy to the sport. We need these guys to drive! Not staying in a line barley making it a race when they hold it wide open... We need longer braking zones and wicked fast cars to make them have to drive wisely.

[@V8_Diva]

750 should be the minimum for Next Gen. It doesn't need more than that to be a good car.

[@frankfarms83]

I mean the sport has zero legitimacy left adding Hp would only be a small part in fixing it

[@bradgriffith4231]

The manufacturers, team owners & drivers ALL have input & they all disagree with you. They had very close to 1,000HP & were turning the engines almost 11,000rpm, before the gear rules. They were forced to change valve springs 3 times per weekend at a cost a over $3,000 per set & were lucky the engines lasted the entire weekend. 200mph seems to be the top speed that it's safe to race at. Cutting the HP & aero helps keep the speed down & the pack closer together. Most of y'all have never experienced driving at high speeds & have zero knowledge to form an opinion. 150 mph without traffic is very "busy", to say the least, even with a good handling car. Races "back in the day" were boring as hell because the winner, usually only 1 or 2 posibilities, won by multiple laps instead of by tenths of a second. Petty would have NEVER won 200 races in today's world, probably wouldn't have won 200 IF David Pearson ever ran a full season "back in the day". Easy to be an armchair quarterback when ya don't actually have to pay the bill or produce results!

[@dsz2448]

@@bradgriffith4231if you’re worried about costs, go be an accountant and leave the racing to everyone else

[@stuartstogdill2406]

Completely false.

[@CAPEjkg]

This is why i go to dirt tracks now, they are trying to get the most out of the engine. Safety is in the right foot

[@bradgriffith4231]

Bullshit! Dirt Modifieds run an 8 inch tire & unlimited HP is a liability not an advantage. GM makes a 405HP/350ci crate motor specifically for them. The only dirt cars capable of hooking up big HP are winged sprints & late models & even they can burn the tires off. Most dirt racers care more about engine longevity than max HP.

[@DavidClark-vu3dw]

There's always a limited amount of time a racecar can get around a racetrack no matter how much the horsepower is increased because the time taken away for slowing down to make it through the corners.

[@liliango52]

Larson's hat is a certified classic

[@beat22]

let them go nuts for the allstar event. imagine the creativity

[@KurthardtJr]

All star race would be a decent testing ground

[@motormech1h343]

carnage😅

[@Tow_Sr.]

​@@motormech1h343to add 80 HP, ???? ARE YOU SERIOUS. the drivers would actually act right. Amd Make it as professional as they can, Because they want to give the fans and Nascar a big ol HEY LOOK HOW MUCH BETTER THIS IS Compaired to what there running now that can barely do a burnout ,

[@all4amd344]

​@@Tow_Sr. I didn't realize they already had 920HP 🙄

[@JBAlternate]

@@motormech1h343 These drivers are surely talented enough to handle appropriately high HP. They're in the biggest oval racing series in the world. Most, if not all of the Cup drivers have driven race cars with higher HP than Cup currently has.

[@bradgriffith4231]

The All Star race at the LA colosseum is a total joke. North Wilkesboro is much better,

[@markeverhart-xu7hh]

Phoenix being the championship ending is absolutely ridiculous. Makes no sense to me at all.

[@freddiehagood7097]

all it takes to go to 750HP is tuning. These motors have ECM's... The internals are the same when they were running 800HP

[@Tow_Sr.]

Lets be honest. I agree with you , BUT they have them tuned to the moon, if they add .003% more they will run so lean they'll blow holes in the Pistons , there maxing them out for the Plate they give them at the TBs, you can only have so much HP with the Air that chokes them off so bad. There is no problems with any parts of the engines. All except the Nascars BUllshit Reatrictor Plates / throttle boddie Reducers , them engine guys are Very good at tunes. Probably best in the world. But with a 3" round reducer from nascar , they can't get any.more.out of them woth anything other than a Turbo, Forced air. Or SUPER CHARGED Intake manifolds , unless NASACAR gives them the 4" or 5" TBs there choked Stuck at 670/685 HP, !!! 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡💔💔💔💔

[@guntherdadson5046]

Pretty sure it’s a bit more than that lol. Probably need a new cam and springs setup. That’s probably about it

[@C6Z_Bob]

@@guntherdadson5046 they probably run a different intake port depending on horsepower too. A larger port made for 900 hp is going to give up air velocity at low RPM for more air flow at high RPM. It would be wise to optimize the intake tract to maximize average horsepower over the entire Rev range. So I'm sure it would involve a different port job on the intake manifold and heads, as well a different camshaft.

[@guntherdadson5046]

@@C6Z_Bob ya like a high ram. I get that. Also you got a C6Z?

[@FeintMotion]

Internals ain't even close. Everything is optimized for low-mass since they don't gotta worry about larger forces than a 550 HP lump can produce.

[@Cameron--zs3lb]

Bristol Night and the All Star Race would be perfect for the 700+ hp package.

[@ethanweeter2732]

I think 800 HP would be better for Martinsville even. Make it so the tire wear goes up again.

[@Cameron--zs3lb]

@@ethanweeter2732 if you bring more tire wear it can make the racing poor. Let them race, but make it easier to make a mistake getting out the corners

[@bradgriffith4231]

They run the 750 HP engine & less downforce at ALL tracks shorter than 1 1/2 mile

[@Cameron--zs3lb]

@@bradgriffith4231 I think they have the 670hp package buba.

[@brawndothirstmutilator5863]

Unrestricted 900+

[@phillyflyers27]

The last true race is the Isle Of Mann TT. I get wanting the sport to be safe, but racing is about the fastest car and driver combo who has the biggest balls to stay flat out in the corner. Especially on ovals.

[@jonnyhung2576]

These cars need more hp period

[@ChurchieShed]

I wish my personal vehicle had a Champion cup driver's 1000HP engine under the hood. That would be cool to say to your buddies. Like we could all be sitting around enjoying a sandwhich and my pristine 1989 Chevy Celebrity parked nearby and my buddy would tease, "Whatcha got under the hood of that beauty?" and my reply would be, "Kyle Larson's engine from his Vegas win tuned up to 1K HP." Then I'd squeal outta there and flip him the bird.

[@ianriverasevilla724]

1000 HP is needed in the Next Gen to make the racing more exciting at the short tracks. That is undeniable. But people have to realize that the reason NASCAR would never lean that way is because of their desire to attract new manufacturers. No manufacturer now can commit to running a race car with 1000 HP because it doesn’t make sense on a marketing standpoint. Everyone is committing to more fuel efficient cars in hybrid systems and EV systems. Having a race car that pushes more then 900 without any type of electric aid just wouldn’t make sense for a new OEM to commit to. We’ve seen this other areas of Motorsports specifically sports cars. More than a dozen OEMs joined specifically because they could run a car that promotes their hybrid technology. With limits on their combustion components.

[@robertheath9606]

Need 1000hp and get rid of restrictor plates at Daytona and Talladega. Need to try to get to 250 plus mph

[@nicalos007]

Lmao, I’m sorry but this is stupid. I’m all for 210 mph at most. but 250 is when drivers really WILL die. I’m sure your just joking but never know😂

[@johnhaas2523]

Those kind of speeds at Daytona insurance company ain't going to allow

[@stuartstogdill2406]

Not even remotely true. They would need a completely new car do go 250+...

[@bennyroach7029]

Yeah I'm high but i just want the BIGGEST NASCAR FAN + THE MAN THAT MADE NOISE ON THE TRACK .but he got my vote on being BIGGEST NASCAR fan

[@timbeach2409]

It will be the same reason drag racing shortened the distance the faster you go the more can go wrong.

[@Dusti3333]

ONLY raise horsepower at short tracks & road courses, not at all tracks, if they raise horsepower at all tracks like Charlotte then they'll ruin the good Charlotte racing we got now & it'll be back to the leader 10 seconds ahead & everybody spaced out after 1 lap! FACTS 💯💯💯💯

[@kennethmiller2935]

Horsepower is the only answer, there's never enough 😂

[@toddrodd122010]

Just imagine 1000hp at Bristol last weekend.

[@davestrider2045]

I wonder if NASCAR could employ some kind of semiautomatic transmission (I.e. paddles). It wouldn’t require the drivers to remove their hands from the wheel but would retain the skill element of a well timed shift for maximum power and fuel efficiency.

[@2Truth4Liberty]

More horsepower could likely eliminate some shifting - you could leave it in high gear and accelerate faster than taking the time to shift down and then back up

[@__deebzz__]

Good

[@jasonmoyer]

More power, more drag, less downforce, and tires that fall off.

[@rs660alec3]

Well you don’t understand aero lol

[@mattthomas3207]

they have electronic tuned engines now with data sets in them. real simple you configure the data set and feed it more fuel instant hp

[@bradgriffith4231]

You don't know sh!t about engines & tuning. A naturally aspirated engine MUST have the A/F & ignition timing correctly optimized. More fuel only works when you run juice, a huffer, or hairdryers. Lean melts engines down & rich destroys driveability, throttle response & MPG. N.A. engines usually make the most HP a bit towards the lean side, 12.5:1 to 13:1. Nothing like a bunch of internet "experts" who don't know sh!t about what they're talking about. Electronic controls are controls, not magic HP creators & port FI actually makes less HP than carbs. NHRA Pro Stock & the show, "Engine Masters", have both proved it. Only 1 PS pass since 2016, when they went to FI, quicker than the old record with carbs & that pass was made with an altitude air density of 1,400 feet BELOW sea level. E.M. proved the same results on their dyno. BTW, NASCAR vehicles still get the same MPG with FI & ECM as they did with carbs, even though the HP has been reduced & the cars are more aerodynamic. MY 150 mph NASCAR look, hot rod pickup with a 409ci SBC, Holley 750 DP carb & MSD ignition gets over 20% better fuel economy than my '04 Tahoe with a 4.8 & "engine management".

[@stevenminix]

Personally, just an opinion here again but I have respect for the driving ability of every driver. Horsepower is great and Im all for cranking it up, but for all those dudes to drive 2” apart at the speeds they do that is the trick and talent in my opinion. I say bring older 80”s cars back from each builder and let em run a nostalgia class for example Jr driving the wrangler car and I mean the real old wrangler car.

[@christaylor-mn7yq]

They need more power and to get it is probably just air and cam. IE larger intake and exhaust runners which equals more head and intake air flow which equals more HP with a larger cam. All the other internals are there and would most likely be the same. If you look at the late model engines it has been the same heads and can change for more power.

[@brawndothirstmutilator5863]

The engines make 950 HP they are restricted to what they have now they are the exact same as they were 10 years ago. Lose the restrictor plate

[@holzbrian7049]

Over 1000 hp from dodge demon srt from the factory. NASCAR should match the 1025hp. As they up production hp in cars for the public NASCAR should match it. Put the horsepower on the hoods like the old days

[@jameshall7699]

yes dude i completly agree about the shifting. Nascar should be automatic transmission. like we get it, these pros can shift/ 😃😃

[@Jose-gq8wc]

The distraction would be good because it would make the race challenging n the better driver wins, I think, but the none shifting could be interesting to see

[@naparacingfan9275]

Yes please.

[@dae1973]

Novice here….. would more HP eliminate shifting. And will more HP help with tire wear?

[@kspice2803]

Could they have a cap on the minimum tire pressure? No idea what pressure they use depending on track but nothing below 30psi?

[@terrybyrne3890]

Sorry Dale... I have been trying to get used to the new Set, What happened to MIKE!!!

[@johnhaas2523]

Mike is enjoying life and running the business with dirty mo media

[@optimalpowersimracing6625]

NASCAR is a low Hp same spec series at this point, it isnt stock car racing

[@webbracing2021]

I run a Gm 604 in my drag truck and I have done nothing but injection and a cam swap and I’m up 85hp

[@jasonhastings5538]

They say the 604 is 400hp sealed!!! Some of the Certified builders have some tricks to get more hp out of them and stay legal!!!

[@bradgriffith4231]

It was the cam, not FI that made the difference. Your crate motor only had a 208* cam(used to be called "RV cams") to make the 405HP. NHRA Pro Stock & the show "Engine Masters" have both proven that carbs make more power than port FI. PS has only had 1 pass in 9 seasons quicker than the old carb record & it was made with an altitude air density of 1,400 feet BELOW sea level.

[@swarmrunner]

I think horsepower might make a difference in a positive way but as long as next gen is what they're driving there will still be issues.

[@danielpeters4468]

More horsepower should elevate the shifting

[@rodneyrhonemus3197]

longer bands in each shift, it would really end up on the gearing of the tranny but i think youre right at any level, a 5th gear opens you up to shifts, too much range. especially when you go to tracks like pocono.

[@nathan1sixteen]

It would have to not only be more HP, but also more RPM. I think the issue with shifting has more to do with RPM than anything else

[@danielpeters4468]

​@nathan1sixteen that's true as well

[@davidburchfield2720]

Thay only get 6800 RPM,s with low horse power it takes longer to reach max RPM that's why so much shifting !!!!! Not Good !!!!

[@uliwehner]

elevate? or alleviate? they were thinking less shifting with more power.

[@eurorabbit2274]

The real reason why and NA$CAR will never admit it, but the car isn't safe enough for increased speeds. We had drivers getting concussions from rear impacts and we are seeing massively high G spikes with drivers cashing at superspeedways. Even small hits are punishing the driver like never before. Dale JR for NASCAR Prez is the only way to save the sport.

[@johnhaas2523]

The car is safe

[@eurorabbit2274]

@@johnhaas2523 Tell that to Kurt you halfwit.

[@couchfighter]

DUDE, LETS DO 4CYLINDER TURBO DIRT CARS...Make dirt car great again. laptops and tuners ripping. JUST AN IDEA!

[@Steve-ft4gi]

Kyle Larson Always Has the best answers to questions

[@szymonkunda2197]

Why don't they use short track package at Bristol?

[@corystansbury]

Modern racing in almost all series has become so over-chassis'd (F1 cars are still pretty nuts, to their credit). It's like Spec Miata racing at 150% speed. Make the cars a little unhinged and it gets more interesting.

[@terrybyrne3890]

I think The new drivers can handle it. Bring on 750!!!!

[@1blue71]

More horsepower . Is always better. Makes difference in drivers and riders

[@tonyfulford3175]

I find it hard to believe that durability wouldn't be an issue. Any time you get more horsepower out of an engine, something in that engine will have more stress on it and will break down sooner. Valve springs come to mind. I have a very good friend that builds Nascar engines and the quality of the parts the last few years have left him furious sometimes. He continuously has to return parts because of substandard quality and fit. A lot are sourced out of China. He tells me the issue has been getting worse, not better. I think most engine builders are seeing this.

[@bradgriffith4231]

You're correct. They were turning them close to 11,000 before NASCAR started trying to slow them down. They were usually going through at least 2 engines per weekend. When NASCAR ruled against engine changes, they were changing valve springs 3 times per weekend at over $3,000 per set to make it live through the weekend. Reliability goes down & cost goes up when you start stressing parts closer to their limit. Almost never see a blown engine now, which saves the teams a lot of $$$$ when an engine is somewhere in the $100,000 range.

[@dsz2448]

You’re in the wrong field if you’re worried about money

[@bobbolieu9013]

Shane Van Ginsberg has a completely different experience with shifting. Of course he would because the V8 Super Cars are manual transmissions and they are used to shifting. They use it as a braking tool. I suggest that someone at Dirty Mo talks with SVG about his take on shifting. He had an interesting conversation with Harvick on Kevin's Podcast.

[@chiphappened]

NASCAR May be Worried about Crash liability ? Speed’s associated with the extra HP ? Restrictor Plate anyway on Super Speedways. Great Video guys

[@dsz2448]

Then they should cut the downforce in half so the corner speeds go down, then straightaway speeds won’t be so high

[@chiphappened]

@@dsz2448 good point 👍

[@FantasySportsZen]

100% it's the lawyers.

[@youfillmylifewithjello6661]

So they put out an unsafe car but they’re worried about high speeds? Yah ok.

[@MrBurney12]

They have crashed and hurt more drivers and fans by putting the plates on cars. Creating pack racing will cause more wrecks and the hp will continue to go down because they think it will make them wreck less.

[@timdowney992]

Just go to smaller tires so that they can't take the corners wide open.

[@x-man5056]

The answer is: Insurance. The tracks all have insurance, the top speeds concern the insurance companies. NASCAR wants no speeds exceeding 200mph anywhere. At smaller tracks they have their own ideas at each track what the maximum safe speed would be. Then they seek a one size fits all solution(short tracks, 1.5 mile tracks, tapered spacer tracks and road courses). That clusters the racing. NASCAR could control tops speeds by rear gear ratios but that would cause engine builders to make higher revving engines at THAT would increase cost some. It is like Denny inferred, they are buying engines and they already cost big $$. It could just be a different cam needed for the extra HP. But that will inevitably raise speeds. It's a problem alright.

[@_red_scorpion_]

You could also take away some downforce so they're forced to slow even more for the corners and can't exit at the high speeds that they're currently capable of doing. I also think this would be an improvement to the racing. If they still don't like the straightway top speeds, adding drag is easy.

[@x-man5056]

@@_red_scorpion_The idea sounds attractive but Aero-push is a monster for NASCAR. Reducing downforce will effect the cars to slow them down for sure but the racing would suck because no one could pass. That downforce must stay. NASCAR is constantly fiddling with it anyway.

[@C6Z_Bob]

It bothers me that I have a daily drivable, naturally aspirated Corvette that runs on 93 octane fuel that would whoop on a Nascar cup car in any sort of drag race, heck with a good tire it would probably whoop on them on a road course too. And it's not even a crazy build. It's pretty basic with off the shelf parts. Bring back the days of 9500 rpm and 850+ horsepower!

[@godsmacking99]

I don't even understand why they bothered putting 1000+ hp in the new car engine when they never planned on ever using it all. What a waste of technology to nerf it down to 650. A street Camaro ZL1 has the same amount of hp the Nascar counterpart does. It's craziness. Professional racing should be the epitome of speed, not intentionally slowed down for no logical reason. It's completely counterintuitive.

[@johnhaas2523]

Chevy has been using the same engine since 2007 and Ford since 2009

[@afrokidgreen1]

They won't bring more HP because they don't want drivers to die when they crash. With the low HP they have now the crashes already hurt the drivers because of how the cars are made

[@SWiFTMK7]

High horsepower WOULD make a difference dale. Anyone who says the cars don’t look slow as hell on tv are lying to you. Take the restrictions off and let the good drivers shine. The race I immediately think of when it comes to high horsepower is 2014 Chicagoland with keselowski, Gordon, and Larson. Go watch that race and then watch a recent 1.5 mile race and tell me what product is more entertaining? A lot of commuter cars are making close to 500 hp nowadays without big motors and whatnot. People want to see something special on track.

[@SWiFTMK7]

I have to agree Phoenix is terrible for racing in terms of the viewers experience. Same goes with all of those other medium speed track like New Hampshire and I just believe they are a waste of space on the schedule. NASCAR needs to live off of superspeedways, 1.5 mile tracks, TWO road courses a year, and short tracks (fix Bristol and Richmond pls). It’s sad this track is what settles a championship. Bring back homestead finale!

[@Rannd]

Insurance, increased tire ware, increase fuel burned.. there are a lot of things that might be the reason. Have to think of the bigger picture.

[@garymccloskeyjr.6265]

What is Rick Hendrick putting a 1000 HP engine in? Hopefully some kind of street car.

[@justinschram]

It should be in a Cup car but NASCAR isn't about going 200 mph anymore

[@DavidClark-vu3dw]

Rick gets to have some fun!

[@keithsmith9171]

I have almost 500hp😂 in my electric Mustang to go along with 634 feet pound torque. I always cringed when I’d hear NASCAR want to take out hp! I want race cars to have way more than I drive on the street. Let the drivers drive!

[@darrylniehoff2707]

And how did Chris bell blow everyone away if it's to hard to pass ?

[@dakodaarmstrong5]

He car was way better He is talking about pass someone the same speed or a little worse is hard

[@TheTheratfarmer]

750hp is fine in Nascar with the right down force. The thing is all the cars are Irock cars-they are all the same. Give some leway on schocks (no springs).

[@scotthix2926]

what was the HP on the Hendrick Le Mans car a few months back?

[@bigced903]

750 as it was reported

[@BOOSTEDSS396]

1,000hp at this point is almost necessary. Grandma’s Cadillac has 600. Gotta have more than Grandma.

[@therealBocaStudios]

Bring back the draft.

[@BSUxFAN29]

Wait so did they not have to shift at short tracks 10-15 years ago?? Getting rid of shifting seems like it just makes things more equal imo

[@dsz2448]

They never shifted anywhere except road courses and pocono before this crap car. Shifting actually equalizes things because the engine braking helps the drivers, thus narrowing the window one driver might have to out brake another

[@a11man30]

My question is. Will reporters, journalist hard press Steve Phelps and other NASCAR suits during press conferences and interviews? Maybe ask the question. Is there actually any new manufactures? If no one is coming in any time soon the follow up should be, why not 750-1000 HP bump? Clearly it's not saving teams money to make a difference. They can say Dodge or Honda are looking at joining, well Honda can do 750+ HP engine and that wouldn't really hurt what they are doing as a company, but also isn't Honda trying to go full on hybrid or electric? Dodge isn't coming in as much as we want to see that.

[@johnhaas2523]

You don't give many chances to ask Phelps anything or even O'Donnell

[@joebaucom4537]

Great !

[@NewWorldCT]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO BABY WE OUT HERE IN THE PUBLIC LIGHT, THIS SHOULD BE GROUNDBREAKING PLS.

[@wyatt7750]

If Honda rumors are true and Honda is on board with higher HP then maybe we will realistically see it happen in the next couple years. Enticing new manufacturers seems to be the only logical reason for NASCAR to be against more HP right now

[@bradgriffith4231]

Honda will have to build a pushrod V8 according to the blueprint specs that NASCAR instituted when Toyota wanted in. Chevy's is called an RO7 & Ford's is the FR9 & every important dimension is specified: bore centers, V angle, cam/crank spacing, deck height, etc

[@mbgmadbull1141]

a thousand horses and no more resin would bring me back as a viewer.

[@briansutphin4180]

more horsepower will lead to less shifting IMO.... not gonna want that low gear getting off the corner with more horsepower, it'll just buzz the rear tires right off of it....

[@joshuapowers4623]

"Commers and goers" won't ever again be a significant thing regardless of what kind of tire is constructed. Sure, it requires a tire that falls off, but it happened b/c nobody knew exactly how hard anyone else was pushing thier car. That doesn't exist anymore, every team has real time access to exactly how evey other car is being driven. It's a big part of why I think the access to that stuff should be heavily restricted during the race.

[@zerodos_02]

Duh. They were pushing 1000 when they went to the tapered spacer so add in a decade of development, they'd clear that bar quick. Please do. I want to see driver separation finally and see these mid drivers get weeded out. Teams refuse to bite on it since they don't want to wad up so many cars but since NASCAR is letting it be a demo derby these days, do it.

[@therealBocaStudios]

Goodyear needs a tire that allows it to heat up for brief periods of time and gain performance before having to back the tire off and cool it down. You’d get better movement in the racing car that way

[@bradgriffith4231]

Why don't you show GoodYear how to make your magic tire? They pretty much have that tire now, but rubber gets harder every time it goes through a heat cycle

[@DewkChronic]

1000hp would be amazing and bring interest like this is fastcar Nascar

[@ansonbrooks101]

come on man give the number 57 excedrine migraine car some love

[@kevinbacon8716]

Even IF the horsepower deal is because of new manufacturers, the only manufacturer we've seen any real talk about is Honda. They ain't scared to build 750+ horsepower. This is the company that said screw it let's start building private jets.

[@3sgteyota]

They're probably saving that power fot the EVs one day..

[@keeptwistin9739]

It would also create more tire wear and a great change of pace throughout the run as some tires would use that RR tire up more than others. Ford and Chevy have production Vehicles with more HP than cup cars and Toyota is so committed to motorsports I don't see them having an issue. Dodge has freaking trucks and SUV's with more HP and Honda builds 1.6L engines with more and 2L bike engines with almost half of the HP Cup cars make. It's embarrassing that Xfinity cars are faster than Cup cars at most tracks and trucks run very close to the same lap times. NASCAR literally has no valid argument against more HP.

[@SquidMissile48]

Other series have to shift, so why can’t the “best drivers in the world” do it while making a pass

[@user-us5hl6br8u]

Bring the horsepower then it's more driver then car. Bring back Dodge and any other manufacturers. More short tracks like Wilkesboro and Rockingham hell why not bowman gray