How A Top Gear Review Made Tesla Sue Jeremy Clarkson

[@phatmemer69]

A few corrections in the video - 2:15 - Clarkson didn't say the battery was the size of a watermelon. He said the motor was. 0:32 - Subtitle is slightly wrong

[@slyy4096]

Electronic is not same as electronic

[@phatmemer69]

@@slyy4096 yeah well I misspoke lol

[@Anvilshock]

"ninety-thousand pounds" is also _not_ "three times more expensive" than £32k. It's _two times more_ than that, or _three times as_ that. Because that's what those words mean in the English language to those who learned it formally in an intact education system, not in a pub between two pints of Strongbow watered down with orange bubbly.

[@Caplonky5]

joe rogan claiming to be a car enthusiast and so obviously sucking up to musk is hilarious

[@slimydispertion]

Oh finally someone talking about it

[@G82Watts]

He did a complete 180 on his opinion after elon started being friends with him. I remember clear as day him saying that EVs will never be as fun as rowing through gears and the sound and feel. Now he just d rides his billionaire buddy and doesn't give he's real opinion

[@mmmbiscuits1211]

@@G82Watts Joe's brain is a lot roller. It picks up whatever it rolls over.

[@mmmbiscuits1211]

*lent

[@AM2K2]

@@G82Watts He just had a new top gear guy on his podcast (no idea who he is) and he talked about how many petrol cars he has and that the ICE car ban coming isn't right

[@12thMandalorian]

Joe Rogen: "A lot of us rely on Top Gear as a car review show" That is hilarious, i assume he also relies on Have I Got News For You for top political opinion too

[@benjones3748]

HIGNFY is the only place politicians actually get a proper grilling on the beeb, regardless of political persuasion...

[@panamatimdawson]

Have i got new for you is LIBERAL TV with a capital LIBERAL TV

[@benjones3748]

@@panamatimdawson if you think Ian Hislop is someone you can neatly slot into a "liberal" box, its quite clear you've never watched HIGNFY. Its called scrutiny. Scrutiny and accountability have no politics.

[@Iwannabuyabugatti]

Bet he watches The Onion

[@mystic_mimi21]

@@panamatimdawsonthat’s bad because? He is one of if not the only journalists holding politicians to account. Would you rather a right wing nut job country a la Germany 1930s-40s. That’s you lot want isn’t? Ian stands for accountability not a specific side, he holds up the hypocrisy of all politicians.

[@KyloB]

man Rogan couldn't fit more of Elon inside of him if he had two mouths.

[@ziploc2000]

He's got the one in his face and the one he talks out of.

[@johnevans9751]

Well, Elon is small, so he had no trouble

[@raphaellauf7786]

the only thing wider then the horizon is Rogans ass when he spreads it for elon

[@kwisin1337]

Or 6 rectums......

[@captain_cgc2413]

@@raphaellauf7786 I don’t think a big ass is required.

[@JamesDorsett11]

It is hilarious listening to Elon on Joe Rogan claiming the car didn't break down on the top gear episode when Tesla's own spokesperson came out and said it was "just a blown fuse". That sounds like a breakdown to me...

[@bowman1248]

The blown fuse was the brakes. The break down refers to them having to push the car off the tracks

[@raytarch8881]

@@bowman1248 he also mentions about the break faliure

[@jeremypnet]

@@bowman1248a brake failure is a breakdown. Also I’m a bit surprised that an electrical fault can cause the brakes to fail. That seems quite dangerous to me.

[@Adrian-pp6qy]

@@jeremypnet And the doors you can only open with a button powered by electricity which is gone in case of an accident because the batteries are cut off as an emergency measurement in case of a sudden impact.

[@madmax404]

@@Adrian-pp6qy That's not even true, there are emergency releases.

[@entropyachieved750]

Musk likes free speech except when its negative towards him or his companies. What a child

[@tad7441]

It’s never a problem until it effects him.

[@oxide9717]

to be fair i'm sure if he said Elon sucks nothing would happen. lying about a company's product makes him liable to the law. also fiduciary duty to shareholders and what not

[@TweakRacer]

Libel is not free speech. Duh

[@fgeiger41]

Proof?

[@entropyachieved750]

@@fgeiger41 all the journalists that he banned from twitter because they wrote the truth about him.. that's a good start. Feel free to google it he has done it multiple times since he acquired twitter

[@philsblogs8527]

Americans don't get humour. You watched TOP GEAR for entertainment, you watched FIFTH GEAR for factual car content

[@stratojagster7472]

elon musk isn’t American dimwit he’s south african

[@VideosNoOne]

Wasn't Fifth Gear made to continue the early style of Top Gear and focusing more on just cars?

[@Supertobias7]

⁠@@VideosNoOne yes

[@Anonymous_0894]

​@@VideosNoOneIf you watch really early Episodes of the Clarkson, Hammond and May Top Gear, they also did no-nonsense review. This was until about Season 7 when they doubled down on the "ambitious but rubbish" theme.

[@jofujino]

Jeremy shouldn't be referring to his show as having "reviews" then. The problem I have is in interviews he uses terminology like reviews and in court he uses terminology like skits.

[@sh2157]

Joe Rogan is the only comedian to not understand when jokes are being told.

[@16driver16]

CTE will do that to a guy...

[@dimitridoes7936]

Joe Rogan a cemedian ..?! 😅 / 😢

[@weizenobstmusli8232]

He never did one himself, so how should he know?

[@NoName-ik2du]

Joe Rogan is a comedian? I thought he was just a generic host to various shows.

[@16driver16]

@@NoName-ik2du he used to get hit in the head for s living doing mma

[@bittripper3530]

Musk blaming Top Gear for being dishonest is like the kettle calling the pot black

[@4R53Hole]

It's more like a shit telling a Victorian decorated toilet that it smells.

[@theamberwolf6825]

"fully autonomous vehicles next year" elon musk the last 10 years every year

[@TD1237]

@@4R53Hole I'd say an unclean Victorian decorated toilet, just to be fair. But your analogy still works.

[@ralphhathaway-coley5460]

....except Musk is not entertaining!

[@erwingeorge6187]

Where is the freedom of speech Elon Musk?

[@iPat6G]

He knew the law about this is different in England, hence the suing.

[@sebastiankeano4926]

Elon bought Twitter to protect his freedom of speech..

[@LiftandCoa]

@iPat6G No, OPs point is thar Musk never gave and never will give a fck about freedom of speech. Its just advantageous for his future scams ti act like he does. Twitter and his various lawsuit against opinions shows that abundandly clear. Also the law in england is different yes, but Musk still had NO basis for a lawsuit whatsoever as everything said is protected by law.

[@razvi01]

Only when he likes it.

[@cane6074]

Elon: That's for me, not for thee!

[@HonestTom1892]

Old Top Gear was gold ❤

[@rajimus]

its the same as its always been. Grand tour is the sme tired used jokes and "banter" hasnt been good since 2008

[@charloplaysofficial]

Gran tour is awesome

[@chadhaire1711]

it was fake garbage and Clarkson is a jackass

[@DROK278]

@@rajimus Womp womp 😂 It is and always will be one of the very best car shows ever, even the stuff past "2008" Top Gear btw not Grand tour.

[@stephenfarry3151]

​@DROK278 i think Flintoff saved it.

[@DarkCobra88]

I doubt the script being left out for a engineer of Tesla to see, even by mistake. If that did happen, why did the engineer not report this to Tesla and why wouldn't Tesla make a public statement before the episode airs? There is a good gap between the episodes being filmed to the episodes airing so what's the issue? They might of been small but all the more they could "predict" the outcome with proof, not only giving them cause but proving the reviews and such are fixed before its even tested. Yet... nobody mentioned this ever until years later? Even in the court case?? Come on, i struggle to believe anyone would be so uninterested in their own brand going under before it has chance to shine for no given reason.

[@tjroelsma]

Elon Musk at first just dismissed Clarkson's review for what it was: a hilarious comment of a self-proclaimed petrolhead on what obviously was an EV that still had some significant problems that had yet to be ironed out. The lawsuit came when Musk realised years later that Clarkson's review was actually costing Tesla sales and at that time Tesla desperately needed sales to counter the ever present losses.

[@miru2583]

so they're telling me, that they saw the script trying to sabotage the company but still proceed to greenlight the review?? it just doesn't make any sense.

[@frankdocter3785]

Elon Musk lying? Say it ain't so! In other news, the sky is blue.

[@xrismanessa3993]

It’s his freedom of speech and when Jeremy said something it’s not freedom of speech.

[@TomsGuideToGaming]

@@tjroelsma just on the fact he lost both times shows he said nothing wrong or incorrect about the car. its just like big names like Bugatti and Lambo go after car wow because they cant stand any level of criticism

[@12thMandalorian]

Elon Musk is the kind of person who was a dick at school, he wasnt a bully, he just enjoyed spouting nonsense to cause a reaction

[@12thMandalorian]

@@Wasmek how did they lie? If they lied they wouldnt have won the case 🤣

[@B4R0N.]

​@@12thMandalorian ... did you watch the video? They won, not because they proved they didn't lie, but because it was ruled it wouldn't be taken seriously.

[@12thMandalorian]

@@B4R0N. google it and it states BBC won, not Tesla

[@B4R0N.]

@@12thMandalorian ... you didn't even read the reply, did ya?

[@12thMandalorian]

@@B4R0N. accept the L and move on 😂

[@CZpersi]

James May's review of how difficult is to cold-start a Tesla with a dead battery (to get even inside the car!) was in my opinion even more savage. And frankly, he did have a point.

[@JesusH.Tap-Dancingchrist7328]

Musk, the electric Karen, lost twice.

[@Vile_Entity_3545]

You had better retract that statement because he is one of the only big people that is fighting for your freedoms, or are you one of them that likes their freedom whittled away until they live under what the Chinese public do?

[@ThomasBarker-e8i]

I made this account just to reply to this comment. Anybody with half a braincell and can use critical thinking skills can tell the BBC have clearly tried to make Tesla look bad. Now you’ve got to ask why? Look who the stock holders are then you’ll understand why the BBC wants to make electric cars look bad. Absolute reprobates use 15% of you brain next time ahahaha

[@nou7401]

Except in sales, LMAO

[@Dreadpirateflappy]

@@nou7401 What it has in sales, it loses in reliability...

[@PeugeotRocket]

It's pretty crazy when someone can outright lie about your product but not be found liable...

[@seanmcdonagh6237]

Musk is completely lying about the script haha

[@teddownunder875]

Glad someone else picked up on that

[@lewishamilton.f1.44]

And he is also lying about being a good father he is actually a horrible father to his transgender daughter if he really was a good father then he would have supported his son/daughter being trans and her transition also his daughter claims he was abusive and i believe her in this i mean the guy has an ego as big as the burj Khalifa

[@James_Bee]

@lewishamilton.f1.44 I'm no Musk fan, but it's utter insanity to think kids should be pushed into transgenderism. 30 year old studies aside, thankfully more recent studies have shown the same results that "trans" kids nearly always grow out of it and regret their decision. Not to mention the horrific side effects of hormone blockers and I won't even get into the absolute unethical "surgeries" that are just body mutilation. Stop supporting this insanity. Do ACTUAL RESEARCH on the topic and stop listening to people that are LYING because they want everyone else to accept their delusion. - a former trans.

[@joeschipper6465]

@@lewishamilton.f1.44 if he was a good father his child wouldve never mutilated themselves lol

[@RepublicanAtheist]

Dork.

[@bottledwaterprod]

Even 20 years ago it was clear that Top Gear is a reality-style sketch comedy show. Everything is a bit. Ppl taking Clarkson seriously, and especially Joe and Elon acting like it was a huge blow, is just insane.

[@karlbassett8485]

Top Gear is a bit like UK satirical magazine Private Eye. If you read the Eye you know there are clearly made up satirical articles and there are serious investigative journalism articles. And you always know which sections of the magazine are the serious ones and which are the satirical ones. So yes we all know TG was scripted and lots of it is done for comedy, but fundamentally if they test a new hypercar and say it will do 200mph then that is taken as a fact. I was a huge fan of the Clarkson/Hammond/May era TG but the fact is he very much had an agenda against EVs and hybrids and frequently stretched the truth or all out misled viewers to portray them in a negative light. Showing the Tesla running out of power and having to be pushed is one example. (Though racing around a track is HUGELY fuel hungry whatever the car runs on. The Elise in that test probably average 5mpg) They "tested" a Prius by having it drive around the track flat out and having a BMW M3 follow it, and compared fuel consumption, which is a staggeringly stupid and pointless test. The benefit of hybrids is in city stop start traffic. Driving flat out they are just an ICE car. What did that "test" prove? Did they do a follow up where both cars were driven across Londin in rush hour and compare THAT fuel consumption? Of course not. They tested a Nissan Leaf in the north of England and showed it running out of battery, when we later found out that they actually STARTED the trip with the battery only half charged, with viewers given the impression it was fully charged. They have done a couple of hypermiling features to show how economical petrol cars can be, driving an Audi from London to Scotland and back on one tank of petrol, and a cross Europe trip with a Jaguar and a VW, with Jeremy driving carefully to show how far you can go on one tank. Yet again, no similar feature with an EV showing how far one of them can go on one charge.

[@fetB]

and every joke has a kernel of truth. Thats what makes it fun and its the very basis of a good sketch show, and that includes top gear for that matter. The humor isnt the criticism, but the lies presented as the kernel of truth

[@FLPhotoCatcher]

@@karlbassett8485 *Exactly.* There was *no way* to know whether Top Gear was lying or not. In fact, even though I know it's an entertainment show, I would have thought that the Tesla really did what they said it did if I didn't hear that the review was false. It really is shameful that you can't trust a popular show to be honest in their review of a car.

[@fredcasdensworld]

Top Gear exposed Elon Musk for being a complete twat, so we should be thankful for that

[@InfernosReaper]

Yeah, it's a shame it didn't sink in with a lot of people back then.

[@corsel6911]

Beautiful rhyme

[@Tom-mk7iq]

Best selling cars lol

[@peterallebone6446]

Why do they ALWAYS show a gavel, whenever anything about British courts appears - the British legal system has NEVER used a gavel . . . EVER??!!

[@davidgroves8049]

NO the British use a stone that sparks just like the Klingons! HAHAHAHA

[@MrGeocidal]

Did you know Shakespeare was a Klingon?

[@TheCatBilbo]

Always niggles me too, it's fairly common even in UK programmes & articles, films etc. It's like showing a US Judge wearing a wig in 2024.

[@Omni-Man]

Poor little Elon Musk, clawing his way from the dirt. Yea, the dirt from the Diamond Mine he inherited.

[@AnonymousCaveman]

Based comment 😂

[@Fissan_Poulsen]

The fabricated story was actually about an emerald mine.

[@Gearparadummies]

He actually renounced to his inheritance. But even if he didn't, turning a tens of millions dollars worth mine into a 270 billion fortune is quite the feat. Mind you, nearly 80% of lottery winners end up broke. It's not about having money, it's about knowing what to do with it.

[@Fissan_Poulsen]

@@Gearparadummies You’re absolutely right, but the story about the mine is either not true, as there are no documents or evidence to back it up, or it is exaggerated. The only source is an interview with his father, who claimed to have a share in a mine in an African country, just like I might claim to have a share in Tesla. That doesn’t mean I’m very rich.

[@madmax404]

Congratulations for spewing debunked misinformation from your hate cage. Your contribution isn't even close to the most common bullshit (emerald mine) but I guess low effort lying pays

[@WMcGinty-s5w]

'Car enthusiasts like myself actually rely on them'??? I'm sorry but the stupidity of that statement goes beyond words...

[@madmax404]

Your lack of understanding of the value of a brand for luxury car buyers goes beyond words*

[@juhakivimaki94]

your average tesla driver will not replace a fuse in just a few minutes,try few weeks.

[@robwalker4452]

LOL!

[@jimmunro4649]

And cost $1000

[@ilikecats7737]

@@jimmunro4649And you’ll probably never blow a fuse in the whole lifetime of having your car. LOL!

[@peterwilliamson1825]

They don't even have thermal fuses like a conventional car. If a circuit is overloaded the virtual fuse will reset itself once the overload condition has stopped. Virtual fuses are not new technology. They've been used in aircraft like the 787 and the first flight of the 787 happened 15 years ago. The actual design of the 787 is much older still.

[@Nah_no_thanks]

I am an American who agrees with Clarkson on American cars. They are crap. I hate seeing luxury interiors on work trucks, when they are at a grocery store. The bed liner looks like dirt has never touched it. No scratches to indicate dragging heavy equipment to and from the bed. But the truck is valued at over 70,000! Nah, we as a country like cars, but clearly the larger audience doesn't care about driving dynamics or quality roads. I miss sedans. Remember when buick made a sedan? How about Lincoln? How about the outgoing Chrysler 300? The American car market blows.

[@alexferrana3979]

Agreed. Modern American cars, barring few exceptions, are crappy.

[@stephenfarry3151]

But the customised ones are the best.

[@chadhaire1711]

Clarkson is a jackass..........Camaro, Corvette, Mustang will run circles around Euro garbage

[@tapset]

American cars fell off hard

[@bobbybishop5662]

I'm wondering how big a snowflake one has to be to get upset about the interior of someone else's truck.

[@thomasdalby8420]

Isn't Jeremy allowed to have the freedom of speech to say what he wants about Tesla?

[@karlbassett8485]

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences of that speech. Yell "Fire" in a crowded theatre and see what happens. Publicly accuse someone of being a rapist or murderer and see what happens.

[@andreborges2881]

I dislike Elon, but freedom of speech isn’t anything like that. There’s full liability and responsibility within everything we say - if you provided a misinformed statement within a reasonable position of authority in face of an audience, that could and should be used against you if damages were to occur to the listeners.

[@dryfox11]

@@karlbassett8485Comparing giving a crap car a bad review to r*pe accusations is wild.

[@ralphhathaway-coley5460]

@@karlbassett8485 ........ exactly and Ellon Mouse lost in court Twice, so no freedom from consequences meant Ellon had to pay all the costs , including the 'production companies' for both cases!

[@HonestWatchReviewsHWR]

If they saw the script when dropping off the car, why did they not take it back and refuse to do it, unless they gave it a fair review?

[@ThomasBarker-e8i]

The BBC doesn’t give a fair review. It needs to be shut down

[@gamerfan8445]

​@@ThomasBarker-e8ior maybe Musk is lying about the event.

[@fetB]

depends how much they saw. As i understand they maybe saw a page, so seeing a staged bit about a break down, doesnt means thats the moral of the story; just part of a gag. Would you go the the BBC and say, "hey dont make fun of or with our car" or let them do their thing. And obviously musk understood it himself, but turns out, a lot more people do take the show serious

[@ZER0--]

Elon sounded almost normal in the BBC clip.

[@TheSirlefty]

The adderall has ruined his speech

[@LuKaZz420]

@@TheSirleftythe ketamine. Long term use does a job on the areas of the brain responsible for speech, motion coordination, memory. Slurring your speech is normal after a k sesh. I know

[@madmax404]

@@LuKaZz420 Have you ever heard a high functioning autist speak? There's nothing "wrong" with how he talks, or his mannerism. Just more cogs turning in there than with most of people.

[@MrPlannery]

He actually sounded sane.

[@TheChees1996]

Elon musk be like Freedom of speech to ruin country: 😁 Freedom of speech against his products:🤬

[@ilikecats7737]

Why is freedom of speech ruining the country, so people can say their own opinions about really anything?

[@BigAlCapwn]

Thinking Top Gear was a serious car review show is a bit like thinking the Eurovision Song Contest is a showcase of Europe's top musical talent

[@Southghost5997]

You take that back about Eurovision 😭😅

[@MrEdioss]

Thinking a video is factual is also wrong

[@BotulinSpikedMarzipan]

​@@Southghost5997It's literally just a pastel demon contest

[@Southghost5997]

@@BotulinSpikedMarzipan Eurovision is a showcase of Europe's top musical talent, sponsored by literal pastel demons then.

[@davideyres955]

Sorry but you cannot charge a Tesla roadster in 3.5 hours from a 13 amp, it’s not physically possible. 13amps x 230volts x 3.5 hours is no where near the battery capacity. 10.5 kWh available vs 56 kWh battery. Sory Tesla. You are lying.

[@JonathanTamm]

They said in an industrial shed workshop 3 phase power is avalible 22 kw 22 x 3 hours is 66 kwh well above 56 kwh and under 3 hours I have 3 phase power in my house and have a 22 kw power socket in the shed and a Tesla model 3 performance with a 72 kwh battery under 4 hours if needed.

[@bradkubota6968]

Elon calling someone else a liar! Thats funnier than anything TOP GEAR has ever done.

[@karlbassett8485]

Seeing these old clips remind you that Elon was once sane and reasonable, or at least managed to look that way in public. The last few years he's gone way overboard. Telling Twitter advertisers to "f*ck off", and then a year later threatening to sue them for f*cking off for example.

[@bradkubota6968]

@@karlbassett8485 "unhinged" Elon is on a really slippery slope. Can't imagine the damage he could do if placed in charge of governing something public.

[@donnikthejedi2222]

​@@bradkubota6968anyone who's still on Twitter is surrounded by 75% Bots with Blue Check marks ragebaiting now lmao

[@Haueru86]

Kinda funny. Tesla says the brake failure *did* happen but wasn't that bad. Then Elon says the brake failure did *not* happen and that it was part of this "script". Pick an option lmao, they cant both be true

[@karlbassett8485]

I noticed that. Plus, as others have said, if the Tesla guy saw this script when dropping the car off why didn't Tesla act then? That would have been months before it aired. Why not refuse to hand the car over? Or have lawyers contact the BBC before it aired to stop them showing the car "breaking down"? Why not even mention it until years later?

[@Haueru86]

@karlbassett8485 because Elon Musk is a compulsive liar.

[@whophd]

6:55 Jeremy Clarkson - and this is weird - has come a long long way in 15 years too. By the time he made series 3 of Clarkson's Farm and fighting conservative councils, he's walked the long road to becoming an animal lover, and even made a joke about climate change that was meant to sound sarcastically in agreement but was actually not sarcastic.

[@karlbassett8485]

You could say the opposite about Elon. In these video clips he looks sane and reasonable. Today he's clearly a nutjob who promotes wacky conspiracy theories on Twitter.

[@joelcourt4697]

I thought Musk was all about free speech

[@16driver16]

This isn't technically anything to do with the goverment so it's not related to free speech but what musk calls free speech so your not really wrong

[@soup9911]

he is, until people start saying stuff he doesnt like.

[@thunderlighting2006]

Not if they talk bad about him

[@da206hbe]

Yeeaah right! If you want to work at a Tesla workshop in Sweden you have to sign a 40-70 pages long complicated contract (standard in Sweden is at most 2 pages). You have to agree to lifetime secrecy and are prohibited to ever talk about Tesla for eternity. If you invent something, even if you have left Tesla, Tesla has the right to all your inventions for the rest of your life. Are you f-ing kidding me about free speech? Musk and a lot of US big business tycoons belong in mental asylums. Someone said Bezos? Wait, I did. And this is the type of leaders many US citizens admire? Shame on you!

[@kindnessmattersffs]

If free speech is "Just for me - not for thee" then he's all for it.

[@mraidymaddful]

It's kind of ironic that Elon says Clarkson hates Americans and American cars when Elon Musk is in fact not American. Funny how that works.............

[@johnsmith-ky5qg]

Technically he IS American as he has been an American citizen for years now. He was born in South Africa, moved to Canada as a teen then to the US where he has since become an American citizen.

[@MrEnglischjules]

So can he run for president then? Noop.

[@patrickfox-roberts7528]

The brake failure was 'nothing more than a blown fuse' ?????? The brakes fail if a fuse blows ?? I really don't want that.

[@Klont123]

It’s just a fuse, you’ll tumble softly down the canyon.

[@karlbassett8485]

It is possible the fuse for the ABS had blown, in which case the brakes still work, just without the extra protection of ABS. That would cause a "ABS Brake Failure" warning on the dashboard and that could be what they meant by "broke". Or it could have been part of the regenerative braking that EVs have, with the same warning message.

[@danieljdtaylor]

Musk seems extremely insecure and it makes sense when you look at the history of “his” companies and how he hasn’t really founded any of them. I think he would be a lot more likeable if he chose to be genuine and embrace his flaws rather than act insecure and defensive about anything bad said against him or his companies. Also, Tesla seeing Top Gear’s script HAS to be a lie. Why would they still lend them the car for the review if they knew what was coming? Such a dumb story. Love that Joe Rogan says he’s a huge Top Gear fan and then proceeds to not know where the hosts ended up lol.

[@kevinrayner5812]

He certainly didn't like the criticism of his submarine idea to save the boys trapped in the cave. The submarine would idea would never have worked.

[@user-tm1oy6ck4t]

It takes soooo little for Musky to get butt hurt. Utter baby. Rogan, as ever, is pure cringe.

[@gingerjoe117]

“A spaniel from the 40’s” 😂😂

[@LiftandCoa]

2:55 As an enviromentalist: Nuclear power is the greatest thing in the world. Ideologues are against Nuclear, not normal people.

[@ralphhathaway-coley5460]

So true the environmental impact of those accidents at those big coal powered generators in power stations, such as Chernobyl and Windscale/Sellafield etc coal power-stations ........ Oh no my mistake ...........!

[@edu7979]

as a petrol car fanboy, nuclear is ABSOLUTELY the way to go

[@edu7979]

@@ralphhathaway-coley5460Lists incident due to incompetence and an incident from the 50s...

[@edu7979]

@@ralphhathaway-coley5460Wonder why just about all the incidents outside of the 2011 tsunami are from about 50 years ago bud

[@edu7979]

@@ralphhathaway-coley5460keep spewing your brainwashed nonsense

[@bellers01]

Joe rogan was disgusted? Has he recovered?

[@robwalker4452]

Holy jeepers, I can't even imagine how bad he felt. He's a tough guy though... he'll bounce back from it in a few years.

[@andykennedy5982]

No, there's no recovery from stupid

[@noldo3837]

Even the laughter of Elmo Musk is fake.

[@jonlee580]

2024 and Tesla still makes some of the worst quality vehicles today..most of their cars have recalls

[@johnsmith-ky5qg]

"most"...I call BS without any evidence. I know 3 Tesla owners who will now never drive anything else. Personally I loathe ALL EVs and will never own one but to say they are terrible quality tells me you have never owned or even driven one. Just another Musk hater I guess.

[@bl4cksp1d3r]

​@@johnsmith-ky5qg Reuters, July 30 2024, "Tesla recalls 1.85 million Us vehicles over unlatched Hood issue" quote: "the recall is tesla's biggest since december, when it recalled 2.03 million US vehicles - or nearly all of its cars on US roads at the time

[@bl4cksp1d3r]

​@@johnsmith-ky5qg what I shared is easy to look up. It's alright to be sceptic, but the answer to that is not to declare the other side as a hater, but to check their claim yourself.

[@aterron1000]

⁠​⁠@@bl4cksp1d3r While yes it is a problem notifying the driver that the hood is unlatched, almost all of the recalls have been solved by an over the air update and is very rarely hardware related. Although a 'Recall' is always for safety issues with NHTSA, I have seen that it's the only term available for safety issues despite being big or small, like for example: "Tesla recalling nearly 2.2M vehicles for software update to fix warning lights that are too small". Which in reality meant only adjusting by a few pixels the size of the icon of the PARK, BREAK and ABS icons on the screen but it caught a lot of attention because it was a 'Recall' despite being something small. I do agree the recent stuff that Tesla has been doing is wrong like removing sensors, the Cybertruck apart from looking ugly, is made very poorly and glued together pretty much because of Musk's stubbornness

[@ctmme]

Like other American cars today are so good, and you clearly never had the misfortune of driving an Italian car. :P

[@dennis_nl7587]

But sadly, Tesla survived the backlash 😒

[@matthewhopkins666]

"His two pet peeves are Americans, American cars and electric cars." Counting not your strong suit Elon?

[@drt1605]

I'm no petrolhead but I have seen Clarkson "grow his persona" for views/clicks from the days of the original Top Gear. He still occasionally annoys... But (to me) a LOT LESS than Musk. Clarkson, when revealing more of his inner self - like when reviewing TRAIN stuff of Isambard Kingdom Brunel - really shows a more nuanced self.

[@gregclements715]

I thought Musk champions free speech?

[@madmax404]

Libel isn't just "Free speech" the same way bringing a gun to a wrestling match isn't OK. Doesn't make him less of a wrestling fan.

[@cttommy73]

Free speech until you say so ethi g he doesn't like.

[@JustinMitchell-l4d]

Elon rising from the ground up?! His dad is a billionaire

[@MergeManny]

Was though?

[@madmax404]

What are you smoking? His dad was upper middle class at his peak and his business went bankrupt. Elon travelled to US with little money. Yes, he did have to pick himself up by his bootstraps. No silver spoon story here, just raw autism, engineering chops, and bravery. If one could just force revolutionizing multiple sectors of tech there would have been billionaires who would have done it before him for the areas where he shines.

[@TroySavary]

Everything Elon accomplished was due to slave labour emerald money and his parents political connections.

[@LumanatorRightHere]

@@MergeManny Elon and his dad were immigrants from South Africa *during apartheid*. They owned an emerald mine

[@MergeManny]

@@LumanatorRightHere they owned a mine I’m aware of that, but his father wasn’t a billionaire(though he was rich)and apparently didn’t offer him money to move to Canada. I’m not saying he didn’t grow up fortunate but you kinda have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[@lumethecrow]

"We're suing you because you gave our bad product a bad review!"

[@fernando7650]

6:30 This man is so full of BS I swear...

[@whydoilivetoseethis]

We should point out Teslas official submission in court was that the brakes failed due to a fuse and it was quick to fix and then Elon says that that was actually scripted on a podcast. I can actually understand the confusion here because the average top gear episode is generally more accurate than anything he says.

[@JohnSnow-vf8jo]

If someone wanted their company to grow, the last thing a smart person would do was give it to Clarkson to review.

[@madmax404]

Or like Rimac, give one to Hammond, instantly lose 10% of your ever-built handmade production cars in a fire

[@captain_cgc2413]

@@JohnSnow-vf8jo please be respectful and remember that Elon is a genius.

[@frstwhsprs]

Unless that they can handle a strong honest criticism.

[@frstwhsprs]

​@@captain_cgc2413No he's not. He's a POS

[@madmax404]

@@frstwhsprs "Honest" as in "the host of this semi-serious car show doesn't like EV's so before getting the car we write that the car breaks down for entertainment, causing the company a lot of damage and dial the progress of EV's back a few years for views" This reminds me of that New York Times article written by John M. Broder, who drove the reviewed Tesla around a parking lot to exhaust its battery to try to hit his cue points on his hit piece. Afterwards Tesla shared logs of him forcing the battery to drain and to make it look like it lasted less than it should've, and also it was found out that the writer had dubious connections to oil/gas industries.

[@Vernafveik]

>Take product on an entertainment show that doesn’t take itself too seriously >It’s made fun off and isn’t taken seriously >😮

[@Trump_Doesnt_Wipe]

Next, Elon Musk will try to sue Saturday Night Live for telling jokes and anyone that boycotts him.

[@JonathanTamm]

He was on Saturday night live as a host. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4DGpaWJbM9rmsk

[@Tom_murray89]

Jeremy had a point and still has a point regarding the Tesla it’s definitely not environmentally friendly

[@FantasticHydra]

In the long run, it's more environmentally friendly, particularly if you charge it using renewable energy sources.

[@smileyrulesbadly]

This. And also the fact that the manufacturing of batteries occur outside of cities etc. not in the heart of it. Electric cars clearly improve the quality of air and reducing the number of people who suffer from Asthma etc.

[@alexmckenna1171]

Nah. He's an ignorant loud mouth.

[@kevinrayner5812]

@@FantasticHydra And ignore the embedded carbon.

[@kevinrayner5812]

@@smileyrulesbadly If you ignore the 9 tons of embedded carbon.

[@MartyKay]

Elon was so upset of Top Gear lying about the low reliability of Tesla he made them intentionally more crappy. Now that's a dedication!

[@mjribes]

They lost the lible case not because the Tesla review was falsified (the facts proved that), but because the Court found that the show was not a news show but rather pure entertainment - something that viewers knew.

[@entropyachieved750]

Nope

[@Cappy_Cat]

Except the car did break down? So no, evidence proves the opposite.

[@entropyachieved750]

@@Cappy_Cat you won't win with these Musk fanboys... They will still tell you the Cybertruck is the best car ever despite them always breaking down...

[@mjribes]

@Cappy_Cat Except it didn't. They pretended it ran out of charge and pushed it into the garage, where they then discovered a fuse had blown.

[@mjribes]

@@entropyachieved750 Haters gonna hate, right. And I don't particularly like the cybertruck

[@captain_cgc2413]

Mr. Free Speech strikes again. Elon is a clown.

[@salland12]

Let's not forget the only time Elon Musk was CEO of a company he didn't own himself he was fired within 6 months.

[@astrea5849]

joe rogan's the type of guy to read the onion for factual opinion

[@crow578]

They're both idiots.

[@MitchCyan]

That was the first time I ever heard of Tesla.

[@antonmarnitz6598]

2:13 - It's a MOTOR the size of a watermelon, not a battery.... 2:44 - what is wrong with electricity from a nuclear power station? Nuclear energy is literally the most environmentally friendly from cradle to grave. "Electronic cars" Not a big Tesla fan, but I have so many issues with this video

[@martinjrgensen8234]

Environmentalists hate nuclear power

[@bluefoxy6478]

Because environmentalists don't understand how nuclear power works. They think it's just as bad as coal and constantly point at Chernobyl as to why "nuke bad". They've had that attitude for decades and "green" organizations or political parties have shut down multiple nuclear power plants. That's why Jeremy pointed that out.

[@kapralas]

1. Mistakes happen 2. Context for disliking nuclear energy, especially in 2008, is vital.

[@harloday]

@antonmartnitz6598 the power station featured in the clip is not a nuclear power station, it’s didcot power station a coal and gas fired power station. It’s not just nuclear power stations that have cooling towers.

[@madmax404]

@@kapralas Nuclear energy being so feared in 2008 ... the green parties of Europe have done more damage for sustainable power than any other ideological actors towards it, it's so ridiculous in retrospect. Not that Clarkson is a fan of those parties, but it's a "even they said it" kind of thing

[@Cherrypi393]

Damn Elon was always so sensitive, cares so much about freedom of speech he sues anyone who says something he disagrees with

[@emp3067]

At 3:55 Tesla's official response was the brake failure was due to a blown fuse. At 11:17 Elon says that the failure was scripted, implying it never happened.

[@madmax404]

Do you have perfect memory? The main idea is still true even if details are more complex and can be misremembered. Even with that said though, Top Gear making it seem parts in the car fail every 50 miles for viewers who are already sceptical of the car is bordering on defamation on itself. There's a reason rally teams go around with a whole team of mechanics, any car does that if driven like a loony would

[@RealHairyPotty]

@madmax404 It’s Elon’s ‘perfect’ memory that mis-remembers the car working perfectly. Its only defamation if its untrue. It went to court. Both sides presented their facts. Elon lost. His ‘main idea’ is trying to now play the victim card (ignoring what his company said in court). Could now get a defamation case himself from JC as a result.

[@RealHairyPotty]

@madmax404 Oooh. I’ll say it again, because ‘someone’ didn’t like my opinion so had it deleted. It’s Elon’s ‘perfect’ memory that mis-remembers the car working perfectly. Its only defamation if its untrue. It went to court. Both sides presented their facts. Elon lost. His ‘main idea’ is trying to now play the victim card (ignoring what his company said in court). Could now get a defamation case himself from JC as a result.

[@jaredgarlock1594]

If Tesla is not going to be honest about the car, why should Top Gear be required to be honest about it?

[@Ethan-Entah]

If that script really did say that the tesla was planned to break down, then why wouldn't have Tesla asked for Clarkson's defence lawyers to turn it over as evidence during the liable case? As the lawyers' would have been obligated to comply, and it's a very strong piece of evidence in Tesla's favour.

[@RicondaRacing]

New title: African American Elon Musk admits he's a big fan of the BBC.

[@Treeblaze12]

I 100% agree with Jeremy fuck electric cars

[@lunaticfade4044]

Poor Tesla; good thing Musk made the US Government force the taxpayers to make him a multi billionaire…that should have taken the sting out of his stupid roadster that he never actually built for sale.

[@JesusH.Tap-Dancingchrist7328]

2:15 Surely it's the motor that's the size of a melon, not the battery.

[@JesusH.Tap-Dancingchrist7328]

"Sued for liable" 😂

[@Dipeshgiri7]

10:50 no one relies on Top gear reviews. we are there for watching 3 guys friendship and love for cars. Which is very beautiful and a beauty for eyes.... Pathetic joe regan show. Thank you for making the video. Old top GEar was just too good. And ELectricity comes from Nuclear powerplant in America Not like from Hydropower plant. that is hypocrisy.

[@superkubus-nk8lb]

Nuclear power plants aren't that non eco, they are much better than coal, or petrol power plants

[@Dipeshgiri7]

@@superkubus-nk8lb You right but we don't use only hydro power for electricity in our country. Nuclear waste are very dangerous though. No recycling.

[@superkubus-nk8lb]

@@Dipeshgiri7 nuclear waste isn't actually that big of a problem, and it is getting recycled now since there are new technologies implemented to reduce the amount of wasted resource, atom now is better than coal in every way, but yeah, hydro power plants should be used more often

[@Dipeshgiri7]

@@superkubus-nk8lb Yep. True.

[@pedrodaniellopesferreira2916]

Calling Elon Musk a giant of the motoring world is like saying I'm a racing driver after sitting for 5 min in a race car...

[@FalconXE302]

The bloke that owns Twitter and says he's a free speech supporter... really seemed to hate Free speech. Joe Rogan saying he relied on Top gear to guide him to which car he should buy, shows how smart that numpty is. Not sure anyone ever watched Top gear to find out which car to buy. Top gear magazine was however a bit different. (This comment is my personal opinion only)

[@Illeea]

I think elon is lying about a bunch of what happened. Tesla has had manufacturing failures throughout their time as a business although the trend has been going down. The tesla engineer finding a script is just a total lie. My belief is that jeremy and the top gear crew have always wanted evs to succeed but the technology just wasnt as good as other cars they tested and gave their harsh but honest review of the car. Jeremy shows that he understands evs and just doesnt think theyre up to snuff with petrol cars.

[@MillhouseSpeaks]

I sense a new Jeremy Kyle video in the making

[@DannyKeogh94]

I don’t think that Clarkson was unfair with the Tesla Roadster. We likely won’t get the real truth with the whole “script” thing, but I thought he gave it some fair points in terms of it being alright on a track, but not great in the real world (batteries, quality etc). Let’s be honest , electric cars in the naughties weren’t exactly trailblazing. They were most companies first stab at it, so were a bit shite. Also, if Tesla thought they had it bad…. Just look at the kicking that Peugeots, G-Wiz, Toyota Prius took over the years 🤣

[@newgamer85]

Nuclear power is remarkably clean.

[@davideyres955]

Really! It’s not, Chernobyl, Fukushima, general waste produced is poisonous for hundreds and hundreds of years. It does however produce no carbon emissions when it’s producing power. It has minimal ability to ramp power up and down so it’s good for base load but not good for all power generation. Part of the solution definitely.

[@dryfox11]

@@davideyres955Remarkably clean when you don’t ignore dozens of safety protocols and have one of the worst catastrophes in modern history.*

[@ThePapaja1996]

They should not make nuclear power car.

[@buddy3119]

Clarkson ended the first review basically saying "it's a good idea, we're just not there yet" which seems like a totally fair and reasonable statement. Taking him to court for saying that did more damage to Tesla

[@jamessizemore7103]

No way the Tesla engineer drops off the car and just "sees a script on the table and looks through it"

[@MyTv-]

Imagine being so rich as Musk and still having such a desperately fragile ego.

[@andyw246]

Elon being too much of a sociopath to understand the theme of top gear. Also rather than taking QC notes on board it's all come home to roost with the issues with spontaneous combustion and the Cyber truck in general. 😅

[@anoukpoelmans2768]

If it was scripted or not, for me it does'nt matter. But they where at least honest to tell from every car if it was crap or not even from high end sports cars. Other show where more about the technical and cost and mainly what was good on the car, but not wat was bad. If the car was porely made, Top Gear would mention it, other don't. And that was the main reason I liked it. As a car person and as a mechanic for my own car collection, Top Gear was for me at that time the most honest tv-show about cars. And for Musk, when I heard he was also going to be delivering space rockets to NASA, first thing in my mind was that I would not be surprised when on of those went suddenly missing, acting like Hugo Drax from Moonraker.

[@Resijew]

10:42 receipts please Elon? Surely that would have impacted the lawsuit?

[@propm]

There is nothing wrong with nuclear power, though. It is clean energy; it just contains dangerous material that needs to be disposed of. I hope they get fusion power working full time, at least it's finally getting somewhere, but we need it now, not in 30 years.

[@topmandog1]

the issue is with looking back on electric cars on TG was that the 2 major cars they focused on was the tesla roadster and the G wiz, then later a few other random ones but it was still a time when you needed to plug it in a wall charger that took like 15 hours and the other option was the Prius, and that jonathon ross clip is from that era too, since then jeremy has given better views and james and richard both own a electric car

[@TimpBizkit]

I can imagine Jeremy getting sued for punching Elon Musk in the face.

[@petecarnell]

Should we also be disgusted by Joe Rogan's standup routines - which are made for entertainment - because they aren't completely true?

[@spinnymathingy3149]

They aren’t funny either.

[@Purfunxion]

TLDR; Elon got his feelings hurt for 4929293828th time

[@snakedoc4960]

Wouldn’t buy the Tesla now due to Elons ultra right politics

[@madmax404]

yeah Free Speech is basically nazism right

[@Random_Guy518]

The irony of Joe claiming to be a comedian and then criticising a comedy show for a bit

[@DrewColpurs]

As someone who strongly dislikes Musk, and I understand Top Gear is about entertainment, and staging scenarios creates comedy, I still think lying about actual facts but in a way that could be taken seriously is an issue. The most notable example being "it takes 16 hours to charge the car," that's something that was said with no humor, sounds believable (especially since Teslas were so new and many people didn't know what to expect), and could easily become a misinformed talking point. I still meet people that complain about electric cars taking too long to charge (to which I point out that it depends on the context).

[@16driver16]

It's not a lie... he said WITH STANDARD POWER ... AND THE RATE WITHOUT A SPECIALLY WIRED CHARGER IN YOUR HOUSE(THEY DIDNT HAVE ONE) Teslas only charge at 3-6miles per hour!

[@jackdren9974]

Acting like the EVs reputation for being slow to charge comes from Top Gear is hilarious

[@DrewColpurs]

@@jackdren9974 Top Gear is a very popular show that reinforced the stereotype. They could've provided actual practical information instead of repeating misconceptions as if they're facts. Just because they didn't say it first doesn't mean they're not exaggerating or lying

[@gunner38ED]

A standard socket is usually rated at 3 kW max. The roadster had a 53 kWh battery. Assuming a 100% linear charge efficiency (which is as real as a spherical chicken in a vaccum) we have: 53 kWh / 3kW = 17,67 hours. Where is the lie? Electric vehicles are slow to charge. Only very expensive models charged with ultra expensive DC chargers can be charged in less then an hour and thay ruins battery life and wide spread quick charge would put an enormous stress on the electric grid.

[@Pookytroll]

@@gunner38EDThis

[@braggski]

One argument: nuclear power plants barely produce any harmful emissions, hence, they are much, much cleaner than fossil fuel power plants.

[@jamessizemore7103]

Nuclear power plants are clean af. The have no carbon emissions, and a tiny amount of waste material. That's not a good argument against electric cars that's actually one of the pros, electric cars can get their electricity from anything that produces electricity. Right now that's coal or fossil fuels, but it can soon be renewable low carbon sources.

[@brianmckee2267]

We already generate loads of electricity from wind farms and solar.

[@Thebossstage1]

​@brianmckee2267 But nuclear power is better. The problem with wind and solar is that the cost is higher compared to the power it produces.

[@jamessizemore7103]

@@Thebossstage1 those prices come down as technology improves but even then, nuclear is very cheap in the long term. Just expensive up front, once it's up and running it takes very little maintenance compared to solar/wind

[@Ryuji_Snowcrest]

HOW FUNNY IS THAT? After Twitter/X Brazil bullshit, Elon defends "liberty of expression and stuff" and claim that the judge Alexandre was commiting crimes against free speech, when the judge was fighting against the excessive fake news on Elon social website and many more. But don't you dare say something bad or lie about his cars, IN A COMEDY SHOW

[@tomjordan7606]

Nuclear power is actually really environmentally friendly.

[@cttommy73]

Until everything breaks down. Japan would like to say hi.

[@JamesBD05]

​@@cttommy73In the grand scheme of how many nuclear generators we have, there is a higher percentage of coal plants failing than the percentage of nuclear failures. Nuclear energy is extremely clean, efficient and safe

[@crow578]

No, it isn't - and it's horribly expensive as well. No nuclear power plant has ever turned a profit. It's incredibly stupid now that solar is becoming so cheap.

[@jackorton821]

​@@crow578have you got any proof of this?

[@dukenukem5768]

@@crow578 Wrote _"No nuclear power plant has ever turned a profit"_ Citation? The UK Magnox power stations certainly did, I know that because I was involved with them in their later years. That's partly because there was far less red tape when they were built.

[@NiceTriGuy]

Did you catch Elon lying to Joe about the ‘script’? He said the brake failure was written into the script in advance yet his PR person acknowledged the brake failure was a blown fuse. Which is it Elon?

[@bbboijnk]

Great video and all but energy generated by nuclear power is actually super eco-friendly, relatively speaking. I dunno if it's just you repeating stuff how Clarkson framed it but like nuclear power is a pretty good and efficient source of energy.

[@NexusStore-uk8cj]

How are we disposing nuclear waste?

[@bbboijnk]

@@NexusStore-uk8cj Oh yeah it's non-sustainable in the looooong run but there are easier ways to mitigate the effects of it than say fossil fuels for instance !!

[@NexusStore-uk8cj]

@@bbboijnk Good point. However, there are many ways to make fuels. In organic chemistry we could synthesise hydrocarbon to produce synthetic fuel or pyrolysis which is using high heat to seperate the hydrocarbon chain which is present in plastic bottles. There could be biofuels and cooking oils that can be used. I am sure aramco and other companies are involved in e- fuels.

[@NexusStore-uk8cj]

@@bbboijnk I want to hear tour thoughts on this topic.

[@jackorton821]

​@@NexusStore-uk8cjhow we always do. Nuclear plants produce very little nuclear waste, and we have official ways to handle such waste. 😊

[@user-cf4io3hi1c]

Top Gear is a car entertainment show. Anyone thinking they were a true review show does not understand the show.

[@merakrut]

Winter driving a Tesla is a nightmare. Ops! Now I will get sued.

[@olwynskye417]

Joe Rogan is kind of like an earthworm in that he tends to bend around whatever cut him in half. Also bald. E: He is so great at interviewing people, because he's able to see their point of view at a certain level. He likes to know stuff, but only remembers things he's interested in, just like anyone.

[@ZeeengMicro]

I can't believe this well-spoken guy (6:02) is the same guy that bought twitter