*The next in my [HALF-LIFE HISTORIES] series.* Enjoy our deepest dive yet. Thanks for watching.
@Jesus_paid_it_all3 жыл бұрын
Hey kyle!
@bazzfromthebackground36963 жыл бұрын
I dig these minidocs
@ElliotMatteyOfDoom3 жыл бұрын
It was incredible.
@vanessam.22833 жыл бұрын
BEST SERIES ON KZbinEEEE
@Grant_Arnett3 жыл бұрын
Are you gonna do a video on the Chernobyl nuclear reactor meltdown?
@alichamas63 Жыл бұрын
The fact that you could pull the rod out that far to cause criticality without some kind of lock or limiter is unbelievable from an engineering point of view.
@bobdawonderweasel2 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The design was flawed from the start. The X pattern of the control rods is an unconscionable engineering oversight. Even so a limiter to prevent extended removal of the rods should have been in place from the get go. Also this accident is only remotely like Chernobyl.
@ch1ppychipp Жыл бұрын
@@bobdawonderweasel2 Since it was one of the first disasters, those measures just weren't thought of until after something like this occured.
@Detlock07 Жыл бұрын
@@ch1ppychippbut the fact they knew what would happen if it is pulled too far beforehand and still continued to operate that way is fucking asenine. I mean beating the thing with a damn pipe wrench, what the hell...
@flyingplantwhale545 Жыл бұрын
But they KNEW what would happen!! How was such a thing not considered during the design phase? like WTF @@ch1ppychipp
@ColeBohmfalk-sv3xd Жыл бұрын
They knew beforehand, so there was probably some kind of procedure, but mechanics always break more safety rules than anyone else
@DarthRane1133 жыл бұрын
As a former soldier I couldve told you from the beginning that putting nuclear anything in the hands of military standard soldiers is a HORRIBLE idea
@rowdyace57192 жыл бұрын
Especially marines
@mk-15792 жыл бұрын
Yep, I see how even our medics perform from a clinical standpoint. We'll do everything to keep you alive and get you home, but fuck, dont expect us to do paperwork correctly when you show up for PHAs
@OrcinusLaryngologist2 жыл бұрын
@@mk-1579 That shit always pissed me off. Losing files and all that bs. I was a grunt, so idk the paper side of things that happen in the Army except peoples shit always ends up missing. It’s literally people’s jobs and they can’t even get that crap right? 🤦🏽♂️
@greysongladney44032 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Kidflash21442 жыл бұрын
In Navy nuke school we joked and call this the "Soldier Launcher 1"
@NATESOR3 жыл бұрын
It's incredible to me that seemingly every single nuclear disaster has a "oh, these detectors must be broken!" part in the story.
@NuncNuncNuncNunc3 жыл бұрын
Yup. People can't even learn the most basic lessons from history. Either routine calibration was never done or crews never learned to trust their instruments, also a lack of training for what scenarios will cause what type of measurements.
@helios57523 жыл бұрын
The only saving grace of that is that it usually gets them to immediately leave to find new equipment
@JarthenGreenmeadow3 жыл бұрын
@@NuncNuncNuncNunc Know your limits, know your gear's limits, trust yourself, trust your gear and when in doubt fall back and reassess. This simple maxim will keep you safe always. Source: Roofer
@kirielvids3 жыл бұрын
wishful thinking. Rather find out your detector is broken than find out you're currently standing in a hot zone that might kill you.
@Laotzu.Goldbug3 жыл бұрын
@@NuncNuncNuncNunc Counterpoint - 9 times out of 10 when the readings are that high it is a faulty meter and not a catastrophic nuclear accident. These things are, thankfully, quite rare. Hindsight is 20/20 of course, but at the time, if you were dealing with this environment day in and day out, your mind would be in a very different place than if you are watching the KZbin video that you already know is about a major accident
@MD1O322 жыл бұрын
This is utterly fascinating. My grandfather was one of the army reactor technicians operating on that reactor. Luckily he wasn’t there that night! Hell of a job.
@taraswertelecki37862 жыл бұрын
The blast of radiation would have killed anyone else in that building, it was a good thing nobody else was there when the reactor went prompt critical. They would have been dead or dying in less than a hour.
@alansilvero2 жыл бұрын
@@taraswertelecki3786 Imagine just being the fourth soul in the facility and then arriving where the operators were standing, dear lord.
@derekbloom633 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Richard McKinley was my mom’s uncle, most of my family believed in the murder/suicide story or rather, that there was “more to it” than an accident. Although I’ve read about the incident over the years I wasn’t aware of his state when they discovered the bodies. Not something I intend to share with our family though…
@truthseeker2321 Жыл бұрын
@@derekbloom633 I don't blame you. Sorry this happened in your family.
@dangrof-pi5xh6 ай бұрын
This happened 16 years before my dad started to work out there
@thenextprodigy8153 жыл бұрын
"Just exercise the nuclear rods" is the most Army response I could imagine when your scientists and engineers report an issue with the nuclear equipment
@kylegoodwin86733 жыл бұрын
And then blame the operators when it goes wrong. "How did the equipment let the operator cause an explosion?". "Well, we TOLD THEM to be careful."
@Guile_The_Exile3 жыл бұрын
The mechanical equavlant of the human version "You'll be ok, just walk it off. Take a lap"
@TANKCHANCHAN3 жыл бұрын
@@kylegoodwin8673 "Professor Legasov, If you mean to suggest that the American state is somehow responsible for what happened then I must warn you, you are treading on dangerous ground."
@c.j.hoskinsiii32863 жыл бұрын
Literally though the same thing.
@azurplex3 жыл бұрын
Yup. This from an organization that wanted everything nuclear. Nuke artillery. Nuke planes. Nuke earth moving charges. Literally like children with a new toy trying to do everything with it. Just because it sounds like fun. A time when they had way too much time and funding on their hands. I can just hear the top brass saying (imagine George C Scott) “To Hell with the warnings of those timid nerds, history favors the bold. Let’s get this nuke stuff to work for US, before the Rooskis beat us to it!”
@Matticitt3 жыл бұрын
Wait wait, let me get this straight. There was a nuclear reactor so poorly maintained that it was literally falling apart, so poorly designed it'd explode from a slight misalignment of just one control rod, which was so poorly designed it got stuck often, and which had to be moved by hand and that reactor was operated by just three people who were also inexperienced? Just WTF did I just watch.
@Oldmanwithagoldpan3 жыл бұрын
Just another typical US government/Army cluster fuk.
@isosev2 жыл бұрын
Thats the US military for you.
@mikymsr2 жыл бұрын
I was also thinking the same thing like wth? luckily they learned from it and made new procedures, allthough after this incident, chernobyl happened 🤦♂. I so do hope it doesn't happen again....there is an invasion taking place in that region 🤔😒
@daydodog2 жыл бұрын
The 50s
@ce95622 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 This is perfect!!!
@sgtkasi3 жыл бұрын
"The men didn't know it, but this minuscule moment... much faster than the blink of an eye, was the rest of their lives." I don't know how much effort you put into this line, but *holy shit*.
@kuparisiipi51733 жыл бұрын
As an aspiring storyteller with no skill in the actual wordsmanship, I'm so impressed by Kyle's scripts.
@AxxLAfriku3 жыл бұрын
I STRONGLY DISAGREE! Being as famous as I am on KZbin, I know that it gets hard to read every comment I get. I try my best, but I am just so famous, that I can't do it much longer. Sorry, dear sgt
@Stonehawk3 жыл бұрын
That line went 20,000,000% harder than it was designed to.
@yoshitheonly3 жыл бұрын
That's the only horrifying moment I fear about nuclear energy. Accidents don't mean losing a finger, they mean seeing a sudden flash of light and knowing that you're going to die painfully before seeing the end of the year.
@floydgondolli73213 жыл бұрын
Not much effort, if you've read a book
@robertdean60842 жыл бұрын
I live in Idaho Falls and am a third generation nuclear brat. I remember listening to my father and grandfather playing cribbage and talking about this incident. Grandpa worked at the Naval Reactor Facility and on his way to work that morning had to pass right past the SL-1 facility. THAT morning was a bit different. I also knew the first firefighter on the scene. He was one of the ones whose Jordan Detector went off scale. The radiation field was higher than their instruments could read. I remember driving past what was left of the facility. The administration building were still there until the '90s and honestly, it was a little eerie driving by...
@owomushi_vr Жыл бұрын
I have 26 acres in atomic city so we see that everytime we visit my property
@robertdean6084 Жыл бұрын
It's gone now. The only thing left is an old gate if you know where to look. All the buildings and structures were completely leveled in the late 90's.
@owomushi_vr Жыл бұрын
@@robertdean6084 we see inl and all the new buildings since it is part of the department of energy now. It's not like they moved everything to new land it's in the same area
@robertdean6084 Жыл бұрын
Did you even watch this video? It's about the SL-1 reactor that blew up in 1961. The site it was on is what I was talking about. The INL is spread out over 960 square miles. The are many different facilities out there. The SL-1 facility is no longer there. That was my point... I'm not sure what your point is. The Department Of Energy runs it, yes. Before that it was the Atomic Energy Commission. Let me know if I can help you with any other history of the Site, and even Atomic City. You don't seem to know much about it.
@dangrof-pi5xh5 ай бұрын
My dad worked at the inel for the last 30 years of hi career. I remember him telling me about a accident that happened out there before he started to work there. I just bought the Idaho Falls book
@MAJ0ROCEL0T3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, these half life histories need to win some form of award. Not sure what categories exist for the webbies or whatever, but the writing and effort Kyle puts into these deserves a larger scale recognition.
@MaryAnnNytowl3 жыл бұрын
~standing ovation~ Excellent idea, and one I wholeheartedly agree with!
@Datan0de3 жыл бұрын
I regret that I can only give this comment one thumbs up. You're absolutely right. Heck, I'd say that this series should be played in history and/or science classes, but I worry that it would create an inappropriate bias against nuclear power overall.
@ShoumilP3 жыл бұрын
KZbin TV level
@dalegaskill73523 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more.
@edgark61503 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@frostyomnic99953 жыл бұрын
Spoiler Warning: The man who was impaled to the ceiling makes this seems like a proper horror story, imagine being one of the firefighters and first realizing what you were seeing
@shitmandood3 жыл бұрын
But Karma too as he was shaggin' the other guy's wife.
@stevenclark51733 жыл бұрын
@@shitmandood But also, that seems like a made up story.
@Appathetic_Substance_Abuse3 жыл бұрын
Like you dont even notice at first. Then you happen to look up
@deprivedoftrance3 жыл бұрын
Would be even worse having to be the guy to saw the radioactive remains of the guys head off and hook it over into a "lead cave".
@theblacksmith75233 жыл бұрын
When the boss finds out about our fuck up he's gonna go though the roof
@rowanjones14353 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen a lot of comments talking about how one of the men was still alive when the team found them. He probably lied there conscious and paralyzed for well over the nine minutes it took the response team to even arrive. That's the part I couldn't stop thinking about.
@dariandietz3763 жыл бұрын
I didn't even think about that. All I can think of is one word..."horrifying"
@AlechiaTheWitch3 жыл бұрын
Feeling all your organd slowly shutting down while every neuron in your body goes crazy and you see your friends turned into miscellaneous bags of flesh. Trying to scream but now having the strength or the air to do so. Knowing you are dead but not knowjng whether it is know or 25 days later slowly feeling your organs shut down or feeling your blood slowly leeking out while seeing people come up, but no hope no chance. He knew he was dead by the end of the hour.
@clueless_cutie3 жыл бұрын
@@AlechiaTheWitch This. Honestly, the way Kyle just glossed over that and then said the two dead were housed in the hot room make me think the man was alive when they removed him from the debris and someone put him out of his misery. Considering the staff had discussed what to do if the Russians arrived, it wouldn't be a stretch to think they also discussed the lethal effects of radiation and their wishes to suffer or not. The firemen may have even been friendly acquaintances of the men/staff in general after the previous false alarms, and knew the outcome of the dying man before them and possibly his wishes to not suffer. Hell, even without the previous conjecture, it's possible the dying man begged for mercy as he knew too well what was happening to him and didn't wish to see it to its natural end. Regardless, this incident is a tragedy for all involved.
@glennchartrand54113 жыл бұрын
He got hit by a jet of water 4" wide that went from one ankle up to his jaw. The jet was so powerful it stripped off skin and broke bones. He died of his physical injuries ( bled out ) before radiation sickness could even set in. He was unconscious , and everytime he tried to "wake up" the intense pain would cause him to moan and be rendered unconscious again by the shock.
@AlechiaTheWitch3 жыл бұрын
@George Thomas hey that's every country. Dont just exemplify the us.
@derekbloom633 Жыл бұрын
My great uncle was Richard McKinley so I’ve heard of this incident for many years growing up and I really appreciate the detailed coverage in your video. There’s still people in my family that believe it was murder/suicide but they were from rural Ohio with limited education to understand what occurred. Unfortunately it’s unlikely I’ll share this video with them as the details of his death may be too disturbing. They’re aware that at least his hands were removed before the rest of his remains were interred at Arlington, I don’t believe they understood the brutal nature of the incident though. I at least had a chance to visit him at Arlington about 20 years ago.
@kgroveringer03 Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry for your family’s loss; I can’t imagine a loved one experiencing such a horrific passing.
@PrincessSunnyoftheSandWings Жыл бұрын
Dude I’m so sorry about that. You have my deepest sympathy and condolences
@jameslively410210 ай бұрын
Sucked to be him.... For about 4 milliseconds anyway
@dottieland70616 ай бұрын
I am so sorry for your loss. My family lost 90% of their relatives at Hiroshima. Innocents in a war. I go to the peace dome every year to pay my respects. My father was born 2 years after the bomb dropped.
@Jcron136 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@jamesh23213 жыл бұрын
"He would set off alarms intentionally just to startle his crewmates" Me, a former navy nuke and electrician's mate: "Yep, sounds about right."
@NandR3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Seems about right. Although for my shop it was a coolant alarm that was too sensitive and went off every time we took a good roll. Of course this was for a phalanx weapon system not a reactor. Also, don’t bypass alarms. CO doesn’t like that it seems.
@scottfackler84153 жыл бұрын
Yeah, as an ex-ET1(SS), this was my thought as well. I remember seeing the full non-redacted training films in nuke school, and reading the 'T' manual stories about it.
@Flameheadwilson3 жыл бұрын
We had someone who would "accidentally" bump the control rod power supplies and trigger partial SCRAMs. Didn't take long for that to stop being a problem for us.
@chadthundercock78973 жыл бұрын
ELT, sub type. I'd just set my frisker alarm down to background make it alarm if the coners bugged me while walking the dog. I'd then tell people they needed to go get a decontamination suppository from doc. He'd put a tylenol up their butt.
@Twinkier13 жыл бұрын
Damn Electricians. Spoken as a former Electrician. Lol.
@EvilMoW2 жыл бұрын
"My Geiger counter must be broken" I've heard that often in these videos. If I was doing ANYTHING that had to do with nuclear radiation, I would really hope the counter is broken. I'd still run right back out of the area and be extra careful going in. A machine is designed to do its job. If it doesn't turn on, then its broken. If its screaming at the top of its lungs/ the dangerous edge of its meters, its probably working fine... and I'm in danger.
@jacksong62262 жыл бұрын
Those CDV units were known for shorting the tube and tripping the meter and worse yet when the tube gets oversaturated with radiation the meter goes to zero. So it’s possible they left because they thought the meter was being fooled
@ali32bit42 Жыл бұрын
what is scarier is not knowing the full extent of it because the device is maxing out. like in the chernobyl series where everyone thought it was just 3.5 because the device only showed that amount. the real number was 15000
@RandomFlask17511 ай бұрын
@@ali32bit42What's even scarier is that 15000 was apparently just the limit of the 2nd device, we'll never know how high it actually was at the time
@keeganplayz187510 ай бұрын
The technology back then was pretty bad.
@phenom5689 ай бұрын
It's more likely to be broken than a meltdown. Back then, they broke all the time. The bad decisions start when someone proceeds forward without confirming the detector is broken.
@croesuslydias64883 жыл бұрын
“Our radiation detector is going crazy, it must be broken. Let’s keep going!” Something you will never hear me say lmfao
@Megalomaniakaal3 жыл бұрын
At least it wasn't "3.6 roentgen, not great, not terrible"
@mikoto76933 жыл бұрын
Nope, my reaction would be... "Uh let's just back off and find another detector with a higher threshold before continuing."
@oldfrend3 жыл бұрын
@@Megalomaniakaal the worst part was his subordinate told him it maxed out the scale at 3.6, not that it was 3.6. he just chose to ignore the almost certainty that it was much higher than 3.6.
@Double0hTater3 жыл бұрын
@@Megalomaniakaal "they gave them the Propaganda number"
@xv1distort3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I've heard the, "our radiation detector must be busted; readings are too high," in more than one nuclear disaster story 🤣
@alanclark6392 жыл бұрын
For those posters who are suitably horrified by bodies smashed into a ceiling - you don't need to be in a nuclear facility to be at risk. Years ago I heard of a Swedish mechanic who was changing an earthmover tyre, attached the air line and went off to answer a phone (days before cells) suddenly realising what he'd done, he rushed back to the tyre which exploded as he approached - he was comprehensively smashed into the buildings' roof 22ft up. I have just done a Google and there's ten deaths from bursting tyres on the first page. While I was still working here in the U.K. guys building up a large boiler returned to site one Monday after leaving their welding kit in place over the weekend - shortly after the was an explosion so violent that it propelled the boiler through a 2ft thick wall killing all inside and people at a bus stop in the street. And people my age all remember Ronan Point - a medium rise tower block - that partially collapsed following a small gas explosion when an old lady put her kettle on. Blasted back into her living room, she survived but three others were crushed. All these disasters happen because folk fail to think or act on previous thoughts.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul2 жыл бұрын
The Russian lathe accident is even more graphic, and if you look good enough, you can even find a video of it. Google it if you're not too squeamish. The only other instance of seeing a human reduced to pink mist I've seen was a sedan driving into a dump truck head-on.
@william83006 ай бұрын
My step-dad was a diesel mechanic years ago. He had a semi tire blow up on him and sent him onto the side of another truck
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823Ай бұрын
@@william8300 did they have tire cages then?
@emmyr53213 жыл бұрын
McKinley being alive for that long is so horrifying… the whole thing is horrifying but just knowing he was laying there absolutely mutilated and groaning send chills down my spine. Can’t imagine what he might’ve been thinking-if he was thinking at all.
@MaximilianTheRed2 жыл бұрын
Exactly I was looking for this comment.. McKinley got dealt a pretty brutal death.
@A_Bit_of_Thought2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully McKinley was rendered unconscious immediately and the groans were just reflex actions.
@micahphilson2 жыл бұрын
After an explosion that big, being that close, he would absolutely have been unconscious for the entire duration, not to mention the shock of blood loss doing the same.
@BCosby4232 жыл бұрын
I kind of hope he wasn't...
@ttsweee2 жыл бұрын
@@SMGJohn 🤨
@railgap3 жыл бұрын
I did a speech on this in high school. Surprised everyone. Had hair-raising answers for every question. Got an A+.
@koala59923 жыл бұрын
Big W
@brodster70423 жыл бұрын
@@koala5992 Target
@spygaming42533 жыл бұрын
nice! sadly in my school no one is interested in these kinds pf things
@Phenrex3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a flat telling of a story from r/thathappened
@SirBladewind3 жыл бұрын
@@Phenrex because nobody does reports on disasters? I mean I did one on colombine in high school. It's not all that absurd. There's a very darkly human element to looking into stuff like this. It's like that part of you that makes you look at a car accident or a dead body at a crime scene. It's fascinating even if it is horrible. It's just how people are wired.
@mrgreatauk3 жыл бұрын
Designing a reactor where a single control rod could start or stop the reaction feels like it's up there with separating a critical mass of radioactive material with a handheld screwdriver in terms of risky hijinks with atoms.
@concept56312 жыл бұрын
If not more so since the Demon Core couldn't explode with 32kg of TNT if touched wrong.
@chromewolf84322 жыл бұрын
@@concept5631 You're right, the demon core had the potential (if put in a bomb as designed) could explode up to 36,000 tons on TNT.
@concept56312 жыл бұрын
@@chromewolf8432 But it wasn't.
@kyosokutai2 жыл бұрын
All cores were repurposed into nuclear devices after testing was concluded.
@taraswertelecki37862 жыл бұрын
A reactor like that is a ticking time bomb, like the reactor at Chernobyl.
@silentservant_ Жыл бұрын
This reminds me so much of Hisashi Ouchi. It is a very graphic and tragic event of a man who underwent the most cruel and painful death in history. On the morning of Sept. 30, 1999, at a nuclear fuel-processing plant in Tokaimura, Japan, 35-year-old Hisashi Ouchi and two other workers were purifying uranium oxide to make fuel rods for a research reactor. For over 80 days Hisashi would remain in hospital to experience the worst possible outcome an irradiated death could bring.
@hootinouts Жыл бұрын
That poor man ended up with total chromosome damage but he lingered for weeks until he finally succumbed to the damage from the massive radiation dose he received.
@Zac_Frost10 ай бұрын
Turns out, by the end, almost his entire body was not only no longer functioning, but decaying. He was just a barely functioning brain, and a beating heart inside a decaying corpse.
@t-yoonit3 күн бұрын
Ouchie. Fitting last name.
@taiparker83793 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how much our knowledge regarding nuclear science has evolved in the past 50 years
@lokeegnell39913 жыл бұрын
evolved?
@taiparker83793 жыл бұрын
@@lokeegnell3991 verb past tense: evolved; past participle: evolved 1. develop gradually, especially from a simple to a more complex form.
@unfortunatesun3 жыл бұрын
Necessity is the mother of invention.
@pablodavidclavijo46093 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. The last 100 years must have been the most prolific years in the history of science. All thanks to computing and telecommunications
@zainiikhwan94053 жыл бұрын
We learn from the past mistake, hopefully
@rickslingerland11553 жыл бұрын
I was a Naval Reactor Operator/Technician 1975-82. We were taught about this incident and the lessons learned from it. We also had the 3 mile Island accident happen during my time in service. As a mental exercise, when we were bored, we wold talk about ways to melt down the reactor. With all the safety engineering designed into the reactor system, you could do it, but you would have to work at screwing a lot of things up to get there. TMI was a demonstration of the fact that you could screw enough things up to cause a melt down, but they really worked maintenance complacency, lack of supervision, lack of understanding of instrument readouts and situation, in order to get there.
@dalegaskill73523 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, once youd managed to work out a way to force the reactor to melt down, would you being your method to your superiors so safety measures could be brought it to mitigate he possibility? Or were the ways to reach that point so convoluted it wasnt worth bothering your superiors with?
@rickslingerland11553 жыл бұрын
@@dalegaskill7352 Hi! Yes to both. Sometimes, in these bull sessions, you can find problems with procedures or equipment that are correctable. Usually the problems are not catastrophic in nature. In just about all melt-down scenarios, you had to bypass or override some many safety system it was ridiculous. One time we were able to figure out, if the ship was in port with both plants shut down - but still hot - if the Captain walked in and told us the missiles were on the way, we could get a plant up and running in 20 minutes with only three guys, without breaking anything - except a million procedures, of course!
@kenashworth76723 жыл бұрын
I noticed the CGN-41 emblem. You must have been stationed on the Arkansas around the time it was commissioned. I was a "nuke" electrician stationed on her when she was decommissioned in 1997 and 98. Richard is not kidding about the emphasis the nuclear engineering program in the Navy put on on both understanding the analysis of these disasters - and the resultant safeguards. TMI wasn't great - but it was not this bad.
@rickslingerland11553 жыл бұрын
@@kenashworth7672 Yep. I'm a plank owner. Too bad the Ark didn't live as long as it could have.
@TrineDaely3 жыл бұрын
@@rickslingerland1155 Regardless of the industry, it's the people running things on the bottom levels who have to handle everything that know best how things can go wrong, and have to find bypasses (often breaking rules) to get things done at the pace the disconnected people at the top want things done. I'm glad you had higher level people who listened.
@Chsae3143 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle, just wanted to say that I absolutely LOVE these HALF-LIFE HISTORIES investigations. Your style, approach and presentation of the events is on POINT.
@temporalteleporter28743 жыл бұрын
I agree with chase. Couldn't have said it better.
@mrIsakify3 жыл бұрын
They're equal parts fascinating, informative, and horrifying. I love them
@ilmorifajt40923 жыл бұрын
i love them, thank you
@JacobBenson-j1w2 ай бұрын
Aww you didnt even get a heart.
@RonaldSimkin Жыл бұрын
19:15 My dad was there when it happened, at the next reactor down the road. My dad told me since I was 5 that he and his buddies all knew why, or now I believe that at least they held their own compelling theory that no one could convince them was wrong. Dad says they had shut off all the recording and safety systems just prior to the accident. And that dad took as proof that they just wanted to see the legendary blue glow that irradiates from the rods just prior to going critical. My dad is named Gordon Simkin -- and he was there, at that very reactor, that very day; and working in the next one down the road at the very moment the accident happened.
@RonaldSimkin Жыл бұрын
@kylehill
@cremebrulee47597 ай бұрын
Incredibly ignorant if that is true.
@Kojara_SC10 күн бұрын
That blue glow is always there in underwater reactors, it's called cherenkov radiation, simplified the equivalent of a sonic Boom, but it's radioactive particles in water.
@Schaden-freude2 жыл бұрын
The idaho and chernobyl events are both interesting because both nuclear reactors were the equivalent of doing fission in a trashcan with the thin aluminum lid as your safety
@lsswappedcessna Жыл бұрын
and in both cases, the aluminum lid made like the atomic manhole cover. There are a few pictures of reactor 4 in chernobyl immediately following the meltdown and you can see the top of the reactor shielding laying on its side, with a mass of twisted and mangled pipes (cooling jacket? Slots for control rods?) on its underside. It looks like a boiler explosion of a steam locomotive but several billion orders of magnitude worse.
@dirtydan5281 Жыл бұрын
this video was real interesting for me bc I have been in Idaho nearly my entire life and this event was never brought up in school
@huey-fan8335 Жыл бұрын
@@lsswappedcessnathere is a video where some folks with balls made from lead where INSIDE reactor 4 building in the early 2000s, you can clearly see the 2000 Ton reactor lid laying on its side because, well they were standing on and next to it filming
@lsswappedcessna Жыл бұрын
@@huey-fan8335 Balls of lead must be literal in this case!
@brycehosseini3319 Жыл бұрын
@@lsswappedcessna Yep. That video is terrifying, not least because there's an almost constant stream of white particles on the footage which clearly show just how intense the radiation still was.
@kenclive71063 жыл бұрын
"Jilted lover bent on nuclear revenge" is the perfect Fallout quest name
@alecdickens10423 жыл бұрын
I can imagine it as a two-parter. Completing Jilted Lover unlocks Nuclear Revenge. Sounds like a good time, love a good revenge story.
@aussie40433 жыл бұрын
You also get a legendary weapon called 'Revenger' , heh heh.
@miguelcastaneda72363 жыл бұрын
hmm these guys were pretty much f troop....wonder if they fatherd any of the crack engineers who changed the desigin of san onafre nuclar plant cooling tubes eighty feet long sixty in original design...fresh out of collage on site new hire engineers ..why not one hundred cooling tubes..any of you grow up rural area ..when you turn on water in a pipe that long ..flexes..dah problem.
@Astares93 жыл бұрын
@@alecdickens1042 yours sounds much more fallout than OP
@alecdickens10423 жыл бұрын
@@Astares9 Much appreciated :) I take pride in details like that.
@coletrain31623 жыл бұрын
It's fascinating to me that every time one of these first responders comes in with a radiation detector that starts tickng off the scale, their first response is always to think that their detector is broken rather than the horrible truth. It has come up several times in this series and it says something about human psychology. I'm not entirely sure what but it's something. Edit: It also completely boggles my mind that one of them actually somehow survived the initial event long enough for first responders to get there. Even though he was deeply messed up by it, and had no hope of recovery it is still incredibly impressive to me that he didn't die instantly.
@sauce36th2 жыл бұрын
As someone who’s worked as a health physicist/RP tech, something as simple as the cord being bent the wrong way, or the detector having a puntcture in the mylar screen, can cause the meter to go crazy, especially with the old detectors that most power plants are working with today
@chrisflohr262 жыл бұрын
The first action in most radiation based casualties is to confirm readings so you know the extent of the casualty. It is usually called out to confirm levels of radiation with a different radiac just to confirm the levels
@audiomanwithaudioplan9642 жыл бұрын
In physics as well, many discoveries were first dismissed as equipment flukes, or errors in the math, until they were double- and triple-checked. Most peoples' first instinct is to doubt readings that seem "off".
@theheatedoneplus24632 жыл бұрын
When someone goes "oh, it's probably broken" means they're in denial, because if it's right someone's fucked
@pinkythreat2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he’s unlucky as shit
@CTTX89 Жыл бұрын
My father was a nuke in the navy and told me this story when I was 9 and first learning about what he did. I had asked “is it dangerous?” And he told me this story. He said when he was training that it would be miles and miles of snow but our in the middle was a dome concrete the snow didn’t stick to. That is where they buried the materials. Thanks for the awesome video
@SwordAndSiege3 ай бұрын
damn, your father was a nuke? i'm glad they never fired him
@alan.mcswankАй бұрын
😑😑😑😑@@SwordAndSiege
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823Ай бұрын
It only has to be above freezing for snow to not stick. Not hot.
@caseyhamm88223 жыл бұрын
imagine being the one guy who survived for like 2 hours, just knowing you’re finished
@scurvy1353 жыл бұрын
I doubt he was conscious
@christophsiebert12133 жыл бұрын
@@scurvy135 I mean, one of the men moaned when the rescure team arrived. I think any kind of voice is somewhat concious, isn't it?
@caseyhamm88223 жыл бұрын
@@christophsiebert1213 that’s exactly what i was thinking
@General_Flores3 жыл бұрын
No thanks
@defenderred12123 жыл бұрын
@@scurvy135 I'm betting it was more of a shocked and stunned state. When you've experienced trauma of this magnitude, your mental state is reduced to a semi conscious form.
@danshearer76273 жыл бұрын
Whether by accident or on purpose, that kinda engineering on a reactor was just downright stupid.
@macthemec3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like GE to me
@staciasmith51623 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same. It's always the poorly designed reactors that cause a disaster. Some of those designs like this are head scratching.
@Yomom123883 жыл бұрын
@@staciasmith5162 Well, it’s not necessarily the design of a reactor that causes these types of things to happen. In pretty much every case where something like this has happened it’s been operator error or neglect. SL-1 was operator error, Chernobyl was operator error, TMI was negligence and operator error, Fukushima was negligence. Bad design plays a part to some degree though as SL-1 wouldn’t have happened if one control rod didn’t have that much power. It’s just that generally, it’s the people doing stuff wrong that ultimately causes the real bad stuff to happen. These days nuclear power is actually very safe. It’s heavily regulated and is one of the most environmentally friendly ways to generate large amounts of power.
@arc467893 жыл бұрын
@@Yomom12388 when a simple mistake by the operator can destroy a reactor that mean that it's a bad design.
@eulermachado39683 жыл бұрын
@@arc46789 and what really makes me totally unconfortable is these questions: why these unsafe forced maintanances made by youngsters without supervision? I mean, I dont wanna think about conspiracies, but it is just like someone was toying with their lives and saying: yeah let's see how many of these unsafe maintanances they can endure. If this tricky rod don't make them explode in this one, maybe in the next? I mean: at the demon's core video one scientist clearly says: keep these unsafe experiments and you will be dead in less than a year and the guy died 7 months later. So there was someone that was alerting the consequences and there was someone that was absolutely ignoring it at the very least!!!
@ATFprdepartment3 жыл бұрын
Both SL-1 and The Demon Core incidents are prime examples of how sometimes absolutely horrible things happen to change protocols and improve safety designs. Both are clear examples of unacceptably unsafe testing and operating conditions that put operators within inches of particularly gruesome deaths
@audiomanwithaudioplan9642 жыл бұрын
& THERAC-25 too
@thebananamonk Жыл бұрын
In 100 years things we do today will be viewed the same way we view blood letting with leeches.
@str8up598 Жыл бұрын
But how do you know - till you know?
@solkvist8668 Жыл бұрын
@@str8up598in a way - you don’t. That being said with the demon core both of the victims went outside of protocol which led to their deaths, and with SL 1 Training could have certainly been better, on top of designing the system to be a bit less risky adjusting the reactor. The latter was learned through this incident though. A good way to view basically any safety measures is that they are all written in blood. People either were injured or died as a result of not following that policy or simply not having that policy. The same goes for nuclear reactor safety.
@robhawkins4677 Жыл бұрын
That sounds entirely too much like the military.
@Thetrueroyaljelly Жыл бұрын
My dad lived in Rigby, Idaho many, many years after the accident. Many people who lived in the town (and other areas) called it ‘The Site’ and my grandfather worked nearby. So when my dad, his siblings, and any other kids visiting would visit and walk around the area. It’s quite interesting to see how it is even years later after the accident.
@niksooxyz3 жыл бұрын
I literally saw that body on the ceiling in that illustration and thought, “Is he not gonna address that?” Then he did, and I instantly wished he didn’t
"Careful what you wish careful what you say careful what you wish you may regret it careful what you wish you just might get it!!!!" - Metallica
@Efreeti3 жыл бұрын
Occam's razor. The fact that the rod regularly got stuck, and that he probably yanked on it hard enough so when it released, it lifted too high, is the most likely scenario.
@kayleescruggs68883 жыл бұрын
Hanlon’s razor also applies. “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” Doubles down on the yanked too hard theory.
@elslick3 жыл бұрын
Actually a good theory. Working with metal I have had metal bind and release suddenly so I could see how it could bind and break loose and if he had enough force he could have taken it up a foot or so and boom
@xiaodre3 жыл бұрын
a friend of mine was a nuke tech in the navy. he told me about this, all of the particulars about it, some choice words about army techs, and he said it was exactly this. the rod was stuck, he yanked on it, it became unstuck, he pulled it out 18 inches instead of 4 and that was it.
@aikslf3 жыл бұрын
@@kayleescruggs6888 I wouldn't say it was all because of stupidity. They HAD to go with all that was provided to them; a worn-down nuclear facility that their superiors didn't even care about. The smarter alternative and maybe the only alternative that they had was to quit their jobs after seeing such lax protocols for a nuclear facility.
@i2ak3 жыл бұрын
The fact that they were well aware of what would happen if lifted too far and that he had just gotten off the phone and had little sleep, coupled with him possibly thinking the other guy had been having an affair with his wife makes the more likely scenario to be murder suicide to me.
@seanmckinnon46123 жыл бұрын
The worst thing for the fire fighters is they were continually getting false alarms from SL-1 so imagine expecting just another false alarm and arriving to that!
@vsGoliath963 жыл бұрын
Probably just that one asshole playing a prank aga-OH MY GOD THAT MAN IS IMPALED TO THE CEILING!
@adamborder41483 ай бұрын
Firefighters are the best, but they do get paid for false alarms. I can't count on my fingers and toes the "password" to call off a fire truck at my last location... it didn't matter - they still showed up. Fun fact, I was probably the only one to know the password years later and I was on 3rd shift...
@theearwyrm6105 Жыл бұрын
As someone with many ties to Idaho and a strong fascination with nuclear physics, this story was especially important to me. Thank you for sharing!
@Xehanort143 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else get chills when he uses his somber tones during this series
@tavissalley10963 жыл бұрын
The music aswell
@bradameerbeg21543 жыл бұрын
He’s got a great voice.
@letthemcode71993 жыл бұрын
Anyone else remember when he used to do cool science? Just make cbs documentaries if you want to do that stuff kyle
@scaper83 жыл бұрын
@@letthemcode7199 You know he still does mostly that here, right? If you don't like this series, just skip these videos. It's not hard.
@letthemcode71993 жыл бұрын
@@scaper8 you didnt get my point. He doesnt either, he just talks about stupid theories and crunches very little science unless its about narru running. Im just saying i prefered when we got lots of data and he went through it. He just talks talk talks now...and 5 mins of the show is names on a board
@14deadratsinatrenchcoat3 жыл бұрын
When we don’t learn from history, it tries to make a more memorable lesson.
@pops70932 жыл бұрын
the lesson continues until you learn
@explosivedude82952 жыл бұрын
Or a bigger boom 💥
@14deadratsinatrenchcoat2 жыл бұрын
@@explosivedude8295 yes that too
@Akimori2 жыл бұрын
@@explosivedude8295 username checks out
@Nodnarb69 Жыл бұрын
Looks like KZbin has a new comment thing where ai looks at the comments and creates topics from it. Yours was “History repeats itself”
@prodfife3 жыл бұрын
my jaw was on the floor when i realized that legg's body was on the ceiling. what a brutal way to go.
@prodfife3 жыл бұрын
@ConrailFan76 shiiiiet ill take the radiation poisoning thanks
@danilooliveira65803 жыл бұрын
he is probably the one that suffered the least. I would much prefer to be him and die instantly than be the guy that stayed alive for 2h.
@grantm.59753 жыл бұрын
@@prodfife To be honest I wouldn't. That level of radiation poisoning equals 2 weeks of suffering. They can't even give you pain meds because your veins don't have enough blood from them leaking out of your now diseased and rotten skin.
@benn4543 жыл бұрын
@@prodfife You'd regret that
@HinataElyonToph3 жыл бұрын
@@grantm.5975 not to mention wouldn’t your organs start to liquify and you would start throwing them up?
@piscestheaquamarinedragon1088 Жыл бұрын
Could you imagine being Byrnes' wife and getting the call that your husband died? Imagine how many people in the town blamed her for what happened. Or if she did care a little, how much guilt she must've felt for it. Like her one phone call killed her husband and two other men. Then the whole love triangle shit... She could have been completely innocent and the book/runors probably caused her so much unnecessary hate.
@peterkiss1204 Жыл бұрын
She wanted to delete the man from her life. She got it. I feel much more sorry for the men who *actually died* in the disaster. Poor McKinley had nothing to do with the utter bullshit of the love triangle yet died a horrible, gruesome death.
@ReiAnikaAyanami Жыл бұрын
it boggles my mind that three men died from a nuclear accident and yet SOMEHOW you men manage to make it allll about a random woman who had nothing to do with that accident and blame her. the wife story was made up by the MILITARY so they wouldn't have been held responsible for not repairing the faulty rod. if you guys are so braindead that you can't even understand this basic level of manipulation, then please, don't procreate. it's amazing the mental gymnastics men will go through to find some way to blame women in every single situation.
@imepic443011 ай бұрын
@@peterkiss1204 which would you rather experience- dying that way and then it's over, or having rumors and gossip and guilt (either internalized from others shaming her if the love triangle isnt true, or real visceral 'it's all my fault' shame if the love triangle was true) following you around for the rest of your natural life (unless you delete yourself from your own life) for years? imo, both can be tragic and horrible, and i don't like the misery olympics. i personally don't envy the firefighters who had to carry the sight of the 3 mens bodies with them the rest of their lives, it had to have been traumatic. everyone suffers here :(
@saelwyn408111 ай бұрын
@@imepic4430 i would rather the rumors than being turned into radioactive human goo
@KokosNaSnehu211 ай бұрын
@@imepic4430 Yeah i'll take rumors over horrific radiologic accident every day.
@makomachine76433 жыл бұрын
"The basilisk won't be a problem if we all agree to just not talk about or make it" - Kyle, wearing a basilisk shirt
@Stonehawk3 жыл бұрын
The basilisk won't be a problem if you love the basilisk and work to help it come to exist!
@jeffreysmith2363 жыл бұрын
Some people just want to see the world burn.
@josephburchanowski46363 жыл бұрын
@@Stonehawk The basilisk won't be a problem unless someone specifically builds an AGI with the basilisk's illogical value function. The vast majority of possible AGI's simply won't display the behavior of the theorized basilisk.
@TheAvsouto3 жыл бұрын
@@Stonehawk the basilisk is the solution.
@epicgamer-tc5gv3 жыл бұрын
@@josephburchanowski4636 well that's the thing it won't be made unless someone made a super AI with its flawed logic. But the thought experiment proposes that it will kill anyone who didn't help it come to existince. If no one makes it it will never come to reality. But if some does than everyone who didn't help dies. The reason the thought experiment scares so many people it that if you don't help it come to reality than it isn't an issue. Unless someone else or a group of people decide to build it in which case you are dead. If this was a world were the basilisk was to be real in order to survive you would have to help build it. Of course this will never happen because the idea isn't popular enough and no one is dumb enough to make an AI on perpose that has reasoning so flawed it thinks improve the human race means killing people (probably).
@andrewmiller62642 жыл бұрын
I decided to ask my dad some questions about this. He lived in that Idaho Falls/ Arco area. Turns out; my grandpa, my dad’s father, was one of those health physicians that first saw “something” up in the rafters. My dad recounted that my grandpa was send home in a borrowed car, and overalls and shoes. Anything he had was taken due to the radiation. Before he left, they told him that he had had his lifetime dose of radiation. He can not do that again. I have to admit, I was not expecting that to be the story when I asked him about the personal impact of SL-1.
@kgroveringer03 Жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine how he must have felt seeing the body in such a condition. I hope your grandfather’s done OK since then.
@adrianthoroughgood11917 ай бұрын
Did he have any long term health effects?
@peterepeatepete28453 жыл бұрын
“When we don’t learn from history it tends to repeat itself. Until next time....” Cmon Kyle, the video hits hard enough without the cryptic outro. /shudder
@frostyguy19893 жыл бұрын
History doesn't repeat, it's more like poetry, it sort of- it rhymes.
@oldfrend3 жыл бұрын
that 'until next time' is a powerful inversion of its usual meaning. hubris is a dangerous thing...
@peterepeatepete28453 жыл бұрын
That’s some beatnik bad level poetry right there :p
@sechran3 жыл бұрын
@@frostyguy1989 As discussed at length by Prof. William M. Joel in his thesis, "Pyrotechnics, Novel Ignition Sources, and Perpetual Thermal Reactions."
@MegatronYES3 жыл бұрын
And the NRA/Qanon nutcases continue to cry foul when they are justifiably compared to nazis
@W1sp_y6 ай бұрын
I’m a junior in high school atm and for fun I wrote a research paper on the SL-1 accident and when I showed it to my physics teacher, he was shocked at the amount of detail I had added that he had never heard of. Thank you so much for your amazing videos Kyle!
@zednott3 жыл бұрын
" when we don't learn from history, it tends to repeat it self". this is why I find it so disturbing when ppl try so hard to remove parts of history from the world we live in. that history that was not a testament of greatness but a reminder of the history we wish not to repeat.
@robinblankenship92343 жыл бұрын
Perhaps this level of willful ignorance is somehow inherited.
@NandR3 жыл бұрын
Well in the case of statues CSA generals, it is not reminder of history we shouldn’t forget. It is a statue of admiration for their efforts in defending slavery. A true monument would show those who suffered the war and the evil that started it in order to avoid repeating history.
@zednott3 жыл бұрын
@@NandR it is how you take it. look at a painting of a sky and remember the day, or fear the night.
@DeosPraetorian3 жыл бұрын
@@zednott except part of the reason why a lot of those statues went up was to change the perception of the Confederacy
@zednott3 жыл бұрын
@@DeosPraetorian so when you see them you think of good things they did? no, and thats my point.
@1TieDye13 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing that there were no fail safes to keep the rob from being pulled too far.. like, a simple device that could be set to a specified distance, preventing the rob from being pulled being on that distance. You could probably make something rudimentary but effective with less than $100 of material from a local hardware store
@PsychoDiesel482 жыл бұрын
Just 1950's Army things :/
@shawnsustrich79812 жыл бұрын
They went with the cheapest form of prevention possible.A little astrix in a training manual. *Do not move more than 4 inches
@ernestochang17442 жыл бұрын
@@shawnsustrich7981 4 inches is like 80% of my penis, how is any1 able to eyeball such small distance WTF
@ivanbluetarski90712 жыл бұрын
a simple strap or lanyard would have done the job ,but then some one would forget to remove it . but theoretically it would be a fail safe solution
@josegabrielhc2 жыл бұрын
What surprised me was that such a powerful moving rod had it's movement done directly... I think that if such arrangement had to be done, it would be best if the rod was lifted through something like a screw and nut
@ahmetkurum41143 жыл бұрын
These Half-Life stories actually lessen my fear of nuclear power. It's horrible yes, but it'd be a hell of a lot scarier than it already is if it was something unpredictable.
@FabbrizioPlays3 жыл бұрын
Same. If we know exactly what's going on, and simply neglect to handle it correctly, then the solution is obvious. But if we didn't even know why this happened, well... maybe we shouldn't be doing it.
@KaiserMattTygore9273 жыл бұрын
@Albert Fels Exactly.
@unvergebeneid3 жыл бұрын
@Albert Fels I mean, that's true for most people, period. And honestly, I can't blame people for distrusting an industry with such abysmal messaging. I'm pretty sure we now have the technology to build safe nuclear power plants but that obviously wasn't true in the past and yet, there wasn't a time when people weren't told that nuclear power was absolutely safe by the industry and by politicians and never was a reactor generation taken offline when it turned out that it wasn't safe. So really, can you blame people?
@ravenwraith10173 жыл бұрын
@@unvergebeneid I honestly didn’t understand a thing about how nuclear reactor meltdowns work until watching this- I didn’t understand how they work period, except that they somehow emit heat to turn water to steam. They sound even more terrifying when one realizes they operate on fairly simple principles…
@tarmaque3 жыл бұрын
@Nybbl er Actually, that's more than true. We have plenty of wind, solar, hydro, and geothermal energy production going on right now if we'd just Thanos-snap away half the population.
@DeAlpineBro Жыл бұрын
I first learned about this accident in 1972 when I was attending Navy Nuclear Power School at Bainbridge, MD. There are some grizzly photos that no one seems to show anymore. Thanks for making that final statement. The stupidity of the design...
@microfighterz2 жыл бұрын
This story was a lot more horrific than I thought it would be. I can't imagine how the first responders felt seeing all of that first hand
@fuckjewtube69 Жыл бұрын
They see much much worse. What do you think happens in high speed car accidents where theres a whole family involved and children.
@Ebowleslap8 ай бұрын
Probably very disturbed and scared of getting irradiated
@ZaydinTTV3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the "He pulled too hard" theory sounds most plausible to me.
@Notmyname15933 жыл бұрын
Can happen very easily with stuck things.
@GTAVictor91283 жыл бұрын
Conservation of momentum be damned! Yeah, if something doesn't budge so you apply more force to it, and then it suddenly releases, you inevitably end up pulling too hard and losing balance. Sounds like the most plausible explanation.
@glennchartrand54113 жыл бұрын
There was no system to remove hydrogen gas that accumulated during shut down. ( decay radiation splits water molecues ) When they wiggled the rod to break it free it caused a spark ,ignited the hydrogen and the rod shot up on its own. The wrench attatched to the rod hit the Electricians Mate in the chest so hard it shattered his rib cage killing him instantly. The problem with the investigation was the people that designed the plant ( and wrote the proceedures ) are the ones who did the investigation...so they pushed the blame off on a guy who couldnt defend himself.
@katiebarber4073 жыл бұрын
@@glennchartrand5411 good point
@vikj12553 жыл бұрын
100%
@AngusMcBangus693 жыл бұрын
Growing up in idaho falls, I have heard this story hundreds of times, but no one has told it as beautifully as you did! Thank you Kyle for sharing it with the world!
@invisibledave3 жыл бұрын
Growing up outside of Idaho Falls, I have never heard of this story.
@Powermad-bu4em3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Burley and we've heard many versions of this story. Every time I've taken the Arco highway to Idaho Falls over the years whenever I get close to that area I get the creeps. Every living thing kinda disappears for several miles out there.
@foddersfollies74943 жыл бұрын
@@Powermad-bu4em the test site is certainly a barren place. Aside from the fuel assembly building, EBR-1, and what's left of EBR-2, there's really not much to see on that road made by man. I wish they would have a marker on the highway where the gravel turn off is though.
@Powermad-bu4em3 жыл бұрын
@@foddersfollies7494 Yeah once you get through Arco it's a wasteland for sure. Breaking down out there would suuuuuck.
@foddersfollies74943 жыл бұрын
@@Powermad-bu4em it wouldn't be that bad. If you broke down all you'd have to do is step off the road and touch the fence. Security will be there to help very shortly. It would worse breaking down the other direction near Craters.
@zombiesrathiz9 ай бұрын
Kyl, I'm at the 1 minute mark into this video and I want say thank you for the way you break down these incidents into a way that's easy to understand the history behind the why's of Nuclear Power mistakes when made.
@MetalGuru9653 жыл бұрын
In my profession (Engineering), many of my classmates worked on nuclear reactor construction in the mid-late seventies before TMI shut all that down. The No.1 issue with long-tern reactor service was (and still is) corrosion. This makes me think that the corrosion problem was not well understood in the Fifties when SL-1 was designed. Hats off to all who commented. Lots of intelligent discussion evident here, which is refreshing as KZbin seems to be famous for idiots talking $hit in the comments.
@adamhall45492 жыл бұрын
Have advancements been made to combat corrosion?
@shadowldrago2 жыл бұрын
@@adamhall4549 One would certainly hope.
@michaelmaston47022 жыл бұрын
So far...your comment made the most sense.
@jimclark62562 жыл бұрын
Corrosion is corrosion, does not matter on what material surface. It has been around since metals were invented.
@shadowldrago2 жыл бұрын
@@jimclark6256 True, but it was less that corrosion wasn't as understood in the 50s, so much as it was likely believed to not be an issue. Given that SL-1 was temperamental at best and uncooperative and dangerous at worst, I'm pretty sure it ended up becoming an issue.
@alpha38363 жыл бұрын
"When we don't learn from history, it tends to repeat itself." Such true words.
@lorenkittel94593 жыл бұрын
well, at least we learned from Vietnam...
@idon.t21563 жыл бұрын
"cancel history" - Some people.....
@idon.t21563 жыл бұрын
@@lorenkittel9459 and Korea, and Iraq, and Afghanistan.... wait...
@eggy67452 жыл бұрын
@@idon.t2156 Korea was a UN police action because North Korea trued to invade South Korea and the UN forces had even pushed the North Koreans back to the border between North Korea and China, then China sent and estimated 300,000 troops into Korea and pushed the UN Forces back into South Korea before the UN were able to eventually push them back again leading to a stalemate at the current border today
@ZirkyPlays2 жыл бұрын
I love the implication that nuclear is a bad energy type
@waywardplanet3 жыл бұрын
I would argue that simple error made possible by a stack of other, preexisting errors, is much more human, and much, _much_ more haunting than a lover’s malice. I love how somber this series is
@onijester563 жыл бұрын
The problem is that by accepting that it was a 'simple error' "made possible by a stack of other, preexisting errors", we are accepting that there were preexisting errors in the first place. For example, let's say the pole got stuck. Either no one reported that the pole was sticking, or people did report the pole's sticking and no one elected to investigate why it kept jamming. One of these is negligence, the other is apathy. Either way, people didn't do their job and were not punished for not doing their job. If the person was maliciously suicidal as a result of his wife's divorcing him, then the people who made the reactor and refused to clean the reactor regularly can get away with doing the bare minimum. They don't need to replace all control-rod mechanisms to be more rust-resistant, or to not rely on being manually lifted by the imprecise means of human hands, or to perform regular cleaning of the control rods and tanks to remove the ever-accumulating rust. They can lazily replace any single 'massive' control-rod that could repeat this incident with as little as two control-rods of equivalent total power. Because this minimal "fix" is all it takes to prevent a single jilted lover from again attempting to suicide with a nuclear explosion.
@tlpineapple13 жыл бұрын
@@onijester56 As Kyle mentioned, the sticking control rod was reported, and the army basically said "kick sand". That is why they were in there messing with the control rod, rather then fix it, higher ups determined that people need to go in there and periodically move it to prevent it sticking. As for getting in and cleaning it, you couldnt. Due to its design, the complete removal or replacement of a rod would immediately cause criticality. Since it was an experimental reactor, it was not designed with the idea of refueling or replacing control rods. At the longest, that particular reactor would last a few years before being retired. So while the idea of a murder suicide is very tantalizing, more then likely it was the militaries refusal to address issues with design. Even something as simple as installing a removable brace could have likely prevented this particular accident. (though the poor design of the reactor probably would have caused an accident eventually.)
@scarling93673 жыл бұрын
@@tlpineapple1 Yes, anybody who's spent time in the military and read many of the NRC reports of the time, poor engineering and military mindsets resulted in many disasters.
@EmmaDilemma0393 жыл бұрын
The "lover's malice" was just a way to shift blame onto the men who died. People don't want to take responsibility when things go horribly wrong.
@dowfreak73 жыл бұрын
It can easily be a little bit of both, tbh. I don't really see how the singular moment of "oh the army found no evidence of a lover's quarrel" is supposed to immediately kill the idea that this could've influenced him. The US police NOWadays even still lies about their own wrongdoings. And if we are to believe they're 100% truthful, how the hell would information like that get into a scientific report on a nuclear meltdown? Seems a bit too easy to go "not in the report, therefore not real", rather than accept that the guy just had this extra bit of shit to deal with on top of the pile of garbage and the terrible safety precautions around him. Literally no report in the world can glimpse into the mind of a dead person to evaluate their very last moments. And hard disagree on the "haunting" part. There's nothing haunting about human error creating a catastrophe in an already bad situation. Spilling your coffee on your keyboard would be just as "haunting". Personally the idea of a man deciding to not just kill a man AND himself, but also another bystander, just out of spite; that opens up much more horrifying depths of humanity than just "oopsy, pulled too hard".
@-VividNeon- Жыл бұрын
I read the SL-1 story on Wiki , honestly one of the most grusome deaths ever recorded , the rod went in through his groin and out through his shoulder , piercing him to the ceiling. In terms of gorey deaths this gotta be up there !
@Amsterdampardoc1 Жыл бұрын
He would have been dead before he could process it
@chris72633 жыл бұрын
Sexy is in the eye of the beholder... I worked in a factory with old machinery that would get stuck, and when someone behind schedule on a night shift lost a finger trying to manually force something to move, the higher-ups blamed him for not following procedure. It's actually super emotionally/politically relevant to me, to see this same pattern repeated in such a high stakes situation.
@TheNathfan3 жыл бұрын
I've seen this kind of thing play out often enough. Guys hurts himself in order to maintain production, gets blamed for not following procedure. Or gets in trouble because production fell behind as quotas are missed. Faulty equipment is not seen as a viable excuse as they should have worked harder.
@alext97793 жыл бұрын
@@TheNathfan yep. Worker reports "hey this equipment is in bad shape," and the higher ups not wanting to spend money to fix/replace it hold the "but it still works" mentality. Then thing breaks/hurts someone/blows up and they blame the person because how in the world could it be the company's fault? What's that line about the seemingly obvious OSHA regulations? They were written in past worker's blood. Something like that, right? You'd hope common sense would win out, but clearly it still doesn't.
@mildsoup89783 жыл бұрын
@@TheNathfan that's why we need to teach people to accept "failure " I've told younger kats b4, I'd rather be fired for not making quotas than die for making one. I ain't no 47 Ronin.
@Jitts.the.caffeinated3 жыл бұрын
@@alext9779 A mantra I've often heard, but never seen in practice - "maintain your equipment or your equipment won't maintain a profit."
@scaper83 жыл бұрын
@@mildsoup8978 Unfortunately with so many of the people working living at or near paycheck to paycheck, they can't afford to take that route. They should, and they should be able; but they can't.
@millennialacademy10873 жыл бұрын
The Army putting 3 joes in charge of a nuclear reactor without training them, then blaming THEM for its failure is 100% on brand.
@DDub043 жыл бұрын
The Three Stooges In: “The Only Fatal Nuclear Reactor Meltdown In United States History.”
@zoy1310 ай бұрын
The ultimate definition of leadership in the Army. Somethings never changes
@cremebrulee47597 ай бұрын
Given the unacceptable behavior of Legg, it seems unconscionable that they allowed him to work with someone he hated and also to work with something so dangerous.
@TheBlueGeebee3 жыл бұрын
My guess is the control rod was stuck, leaving the operator to over-exert themselves to move the rod, when it came free a spring action likely took place moving the rod too far. There should have been some leverage device that could have been affixed to the control rod allowing for a slow controlled movement of the rod, a 10 to 1 leverage action such as this probably would have saved the lives of these men.
@clauday64672 жыл бұрын
That's what happened probably
@paulhorton4700 Жыл бұрын
All modern reactors have servo motors to raise and lower control rods. No one is allowed In the reactor compartment when critical
@peterkiss1204 Жыл бұрын
Or even some mechanical limiter, an adjustable bumper, a certain length of chain connecting the rod to the ground, anything...
@RandoTark Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the very same thing. Its almost infuriating there wasnt such a device required to be used on rods that were stuck, since it had a pretty clear history of stuck rods being a problem on this reactor.. And over exerting ones strength to try to manipulate an object... can easily and often does end in some sorta injury... i mean its just common sense thats probably been around since us humans first started manipulating objects w/ our strength =)
@truthseeker2321 Жыл бұрын
It was stuck, so he gave it a big yank! What a Three Stooges situation, because our government put boys in charge of something that was cutting edge yet lethal science at the time. Something tells me that this is not the first nuclear accident in the USA, but merely the first reported.
@MichaelWillems2 жыл бұрын
I’ve read all the reports in great detail: an extremely interesting accident. The surprising this, when I read this, is how much the health physicists knew. A fascinating (and sad) event.
@kyleway85133 жыл бұрын
"They had to pull the remains of Legg's body down from the ceiling with hooks on poles" Me: "Dont think it. Dont say it. Dont think it. Dont say it." My brain: "Jeez you gotta be pulling my Legg."
@stevedavis75223 жыл бұрын
You said it
@ninjaswordtothehead3 жыл бұрын
That made me laugh harder than I probably should have.
@cryptiddraws33763 жыл бұрын
this comment is Way underrated
@Stasiaflonase3 жыл бұрын
Humor wins!
@TheRealHoltzy3 жыл бұрын
Ahahaha we're going to hell
@WarlandWriter3 жыл бұрын
"When we don't learn from history, it tends to repeat itself" I thought I was prepared to hear this phrase but by god did it hit me hard.
@fostena3 жыл бұрын
"...until next time"
@Twinkier13 жыл бұрын
At least we have learned from this particular accident.
@goodyKoeln3 жыл бұрын
Sadly the only thing we lern from history is that we don’t lern from history. 😢
@WarpFactor9993 жыл бұрын
SL1 added excess fuel to the fuel modules to extend its operating life. This was done after the original design. To compensate for the added reactivity caused by the extra fuel, they covered the OUTSIDE of the fuel modules with boron coated plates (a neutron absorber). This significantly narrowed the channels that the control rods occupied leading to them sticking when these boron coated plates started to warp and deteriorate. This was one of the root causes identified by the report. This and the horrible five control rod design enabled the final disaster scenario. After the SL-1 incident, Adm. Rickover made sure the Army didn't get to play with any more nuclear reactors.
@fransvanhelvoort10832 жыл бұрын
You are telling fairy tales. These boron plates where in the original design. A reactor core has enough fuel to go critical. These boron controls are for regulating the neutron flux. This has nothing to do with excess fuel. The reason that these plates startet to slide heavy is because the plates and boron where corroding and thus not sliding freely in the channels. There is nothing wrong with a five, six or whatever control rod system. The only imported design factor is that a nuc reactor never ever may become critical with only one rod. That is a matter of design. In those times they did not think carefully on normal safity.
@taraswertelecki37862 жыл бұрын
Thank God for that. Love him or hate him, he had the right idea about safety being the highest priority when it comes to nuclear power.
@Malroth00Returns Жыл бұрын
From what I heard about Rickover in my time in the navy the guy was made of awesome.
@JayPersing Жыл бұрын
The more I hear about this thing the more it reminds me of the absolutely batfracked repairs that you make as a shift worker. Which, obviously, given that it fuckin exploded, is almost certainly not the level of ingenuity that should be going into a nuclear reactor. Fixing a desk? Sure. Fixing the breaking freezer at work? Sure. Unclogging a drain? Maybe. Fixing a broken rolly-cart that you need to actually work? Absolutely. An aging nuclear reactor? No. Nope. Nuhuh. Nyet. Nein. That is a terrible idea. I dunno but maybe we should have people with better risk-assesment skills working on this stuff, because every detail of this thing sounds like it was designed by an inattentive 22 year old and then modified by a 19 year old who's been repairing ancient cars and tractors with aluminum foil, coat hangers, and duck tape since he was 13
@truthseeker2321 Жыл бұрын
The Army should have never had them in the first place. Under what scenario would the Army need a nuclear reactor? Power generation is usually done with portable diesel generators. How portable can a nuclear reactor be?
@我的家-j4b2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see Thor Odinson getting a new and interesting hobby. Great character development from Marvel's writers.
@VintageRubyFilms3 жыл бұрын
Holy cow, Kyle covering one of my all time favorite pieces of nuclear history? Christmas came early. Always thought this accident would make for a really suspenseful Hollywood style movie.
@maple22moose443 жыл бұрын
You’re right, that would be an incredible movie!
@VintageRubyFilms3 жыл бұрын
@@maple22moose44 I should've mentioned there IS a fan film available on KZbin called "Prompt Critical," but it isn't very good. Extremely low budget, but worth a watch if you want to see a short dramatization of the events. When I say "low budget"...I think they used a water treatment plant or something for the "reactor room." It's literally just a bunch of white pipes and fly wheels. Pretty funny, but if you squint a little and use your imagination, I guess it could be what someone would think a nuclear reactor would look like.
@jeffreysmith2363 жыл бұрын
The movie would focus entirely on a fictional love triangle and get most of the details WRONG. Like they always do.
@qbbeck41923 жыл бұрын
You right. I would watch that movie
@jasonheckenlively11723 жыл бұрын
I drive by the site of this on a regular basis. You wouldnt believe how close it is to the state highway. A few hundred yards i would guess. Ive been fascinated by this story for years. It amazes me how many people dont know about this nuclear disaster
@ignitetheinferno18583 жыл бұрын
Growing up within an hour of the site, we’d learn about it in high school but they only discussed the event, not the personality clashes of the crew or any of the theories. But the idea of a man getting impaled to the ceiling even as a kid gave me chills.
@taraswertelecki37862 жыл бұрын
What gives me the chills is not only that, but the fact in a flash a person could absorb enough radiation to kill him in an hour or less. That is thousands or tens of thousands of Rads, 600 rads kills everyone and most die of much less than that.
@orcaartist3 жыл бұрын
These kinds of incidents are scarier than any horror film.
@deathlysilence27123 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Because they are real.
@Thejeanio3 жыл бұрын
@Arna Cook Antarctica is everything but safe
@dclem0053 жыл бұрын
Pretty much ANY "incident" that is an industrial accident is scary but often nuclear power accidents seem just a little scarier for people that don't understand radiation because it is something that seems completely unknown but can still kill you. However the chances you will sick and/or die from it are so low (unless you hang out in a basement that has radioactive particles floating around) that it is "almost" a moot issue unless your job involves dealing with radioactive substances. Each year thousand die horrible deaths by automobile accidents which is also a scary way to die but because we are use to it, we really don't think about it. While you can't see radiation, at lethal levels people report there is a metallic taste to the air and your skin feels like it is being pricked by needles. Also people often soon experience fatigue, nausea, and/or headaches if they remain in such areas If you are ever in an area that you are experiencing one or more symptoms it would best to relocate to an safer area before you get a dose that will cause radiation sickness or even death.
@rangeela21463 жыл бұрын
Yuppppppp
@rangeela21463 жыл бұрын
And to imagine there are so many nuclear weapons sitting around 😂😂😂
@esidarasun815110 ай бұрын
I've watched several of your videos, and I like your style. Very simple, straight forward, not exaggerated or overblown, just letting the facts speak for themselves, and I like that. It's very refreshing amongst click bait and irritatingly, excessively dramatic videos
@revus50783 жыл бұрын
There’s just something about Kyle’s voice that’s easy to listen to.
@TheIgnitionCollective3 жыл бұрын
His voice is like my english teacher's. Her voice can put me to sleep and so can Kyle's.
@MaryAnnNytowl3 жыл бұрын
I highly agree. He has an excellent voice for this sort of work - the inflections are right where they need to be, and the scripts are top-notch!
@smithyMcjoe3 жыл бұрын
About half way through, the fact that unlike your other videos you haven't made an onscreen appearance conveys to me a great sense of respect to the people who died. I have to tip my hat, sir.
@BILLYRAYBOB97893 жыл бұрын
Here here
@aidenhill27153 жыл бұрын
"History will repeat the lesson until it is taught." - 1st Sgt. Terrence Popp [Ret.]
@TheEmeraldMenOfficial3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know who Sgt. Popp is, but they have my respect for the intelligence of that statement.
@rpbajb3 жыл бұрын
Roger, that.
@ginnyjollykidd3 жыл бұрын
He was wrong. The word should be "learned"
@rpbajb3 жыл бұрын
@@ginnyjollykidd I'm not sure. From the point of view of the student, "learned" seems correct. But if you are personified History, and doing the teaching, "taught" looks okay.
@Skepperly3 жыл бұрын
1SG Popp is a smart man.
@AstroBeast132 жыл бұрын
...I have a sickening feeling that Byrns and Legg were sent to their death, or that this task was some sort of punishment for them (this is acknowledged with Bryns being "professionally stuck"), since nobody seemed to really like them and McKinley got caught in the middle hoping to be the cause of incident due to his inexperience or was just someone put there as an "extra". If something went wrong, the army would consider them all expendable. Test subjects. People in general usually have almost no problem wishing horrible things on other people they don't like, or have been told to hate. Commanders were aware that there were incidents of the rods getting stuck, and the scientists likely explained the issue at length of how it could mean the death of everyone in the room. Then the scientists were brushed off by cause of rank, or as I mentioned, the commanders knew and didn't care because these men were expendable.
@FloofMother Жыл бұрын
This is some shit you’d read on a terminal in fallout
@Qsie3 жыл бұрын
Came here from Patreon, an Assoc. Prof. This was a serious, but very educational video. Loved sitting down and listening, thank you Kyle.
@charlesjmouse3 жыл бұрын
So, in the first 3 1/2 minutes of this video we know exactly why this tragic accident happened - a command and systems failure. These men were not at fault, there was no conspiracy, it was simply the case that individually and as a group they should never have been selected for this kind of work. It's 'interesting' to consider that nearly every major accident has the same route cause but instead of lessons learned the individuals involved are blamed.
@dianasilver38324 күн бұрын
My great grandfather was involved in part of the clean up in Idaho falls and knew one of the men involved in accident. I showed this video to my grandma who showed me the photos and videos used in this video. I am amazed at the level of love and devotion to this subject. Keep doing amazing work Kyle!!
@kennyfresquez70192 жыл бұрын
History teacher in New Mexico here. Thanks for giving me so many ideas for New Mexico history, as well as just world history. You really are an amazing storyteller. Keep it up!
@normiesalvador18543 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see these, I'm split in my reaction. On the one hand, the stories capture my attention and imagination in a way I kind of enjoy? On the other hand, I'm horrified that there is yet another story.
@DouglasHampton3 жыл бұрын
My late grandfather did the sheet metal work on SL-1. He always said that though the official line was the love triangle, it was really just "stupid kids being stupid". I highly recommend William McKeown's 2003 book, "Idaho Falls: The Untold Story of America's First Nuclear Accident". He had access to a LOT more information and internal military investigative reports and other declassified documents. Tucker's book is from 1968 and is, sadly, horribly out of date. Also, the bodies were returned to the family. There's some real strangeness there. One family demanded to see the remains. A wish that was....kind of...granted. The most radioactive parts were removed, entirely, and put in lead caskets and interred in the trench with the rest of the bulldozed remains, as well as personal items, like watches and clothing. What was only very radioactive(or less) was given to the families in sealed lead coffins that were buried at double depth and encased in concrete. One of them is actually in Arlington. All three have special instructions that if anyone of them is exhumed, the DoE and DoD are to be notified immediately, and THEY have ultimate authority in approving or denying exhumation. And they WILL deny anyone the permission to disinter any of those three men. You can't be from that area and be completely ignorant to the fact that in the middle of SE Idaho, is the largest concentration of nuclear reactors in the world. And no one ever forgets SL-1.
@brodesson3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention how close to Yellowstone Idaho Falls is… I was raised in the area and wonder what kind of chaos will go down if Yellowstone pops off. It’s less than 200 miles apart… Gods only know what the death toll would be if a pyroclastic flow hit the site…
@cruzgomes56603 жыл бұрын
@@brodesson literally what I was thinking when watching this video. As tragic as all the "What if?" videos are on what if Yellowstone were to erupt, I have not heard one single one mention the consequences of SL-1's remains interacting with the disaster.
@brodesson3 жыл бұрын
@@cruzgomes5660 I knew cause of Ricks college/ BYU-I… one of the buildings is built on a fault. I thought what if someone didn’t realize that, why couldn’t they oversee the issues with the Navy site N. of IF? Hell the entire Eastern side of Idaho is seismically active…
@uruiamnot3 жыл бұрын
You and the channel get this wrong... it's not 1968. Tucker's book is the newest one out, 2009, and is the one with all the autopsy proof used in this video ... and the Wikipedia SL-1 article that I helped write.
@brodesson3 жыл бұрын
@@uruiamnot what in the coldest abyss are you even blathering about?
@MissNebulosity2 жыл бұрын
I have to admit, this is the best video on youtube that explains why things went so wrong in this disaster, and Ive watched several videos on this one.
@mascadadelpantion80183 жыл бұрын
It's just sad to know that more than likely their last moments on Earth they were all very angry frustrated depressed or feeling some other negative emotions
@josephwilliams52923 жыл бұрын
“When we don’t learn from history, it tends to repeat itself…until next time.” Ominous from start to finish
@Mu51kM4n3 жыл бұрын
These videos are my favorites. This is like a tv series, very engaging, doesn't even feel like 25 minutes
@blaze5569223 жыл бұрын
Like TV except without commercials and this is factual without any agenda to push. So, nothing like cable TV lol
@pneusur6 ай бұрын
17:38 GALVANIZED SQUARE STEEL
@alishamani70065 ай бұрын
Ran to the comments lol
@madibroyles71833 жыл бұрын
I think it's sad that the men never got a proper burial and that their families never got their bodies back. Imagine not even being able to visit your dead relatives grave, especially when they had died in such a horrific manner. Heartbreaking.
@nicholasconder47033 жыл бұрын
The families can visit the grave sites, it's just that the bodies are buried around 18' down in lead-lined caskets surrounded by and covered with cement. The bodies are apparently so radioactive that opening the casket would give you a lethal dose of radiation. I believe at least one of them is buried at Arlington National Cemetery.
@koitorob3 жыл бұрын
It's not sad at all. The millions of people who cremate their loved ones seem to manage...
@travcollier3 жыл бұрын
@@koitorob Yep. Their loved ones could manage. Not to be mean, but asking someone to take a significant radiation dose for a corpse... uh, just no. The fact that they got an autopsy and weren't just dumped in with the other high-level waste was already going above and beyond.
@silviakunaballero86103 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasconder4703 they are all buried in proper places. At least, part of them
@nicholasconder47033 жыл бұрын
@@travcollier Although for at least one of the families the funeral service lasted at most 5 minutes because of the potential for receiving a lethal dose of radiation. Scary stuff.
@felixd.62933 жыл бұрын
"Hit with pipe wrenches." I know not to use the right tool for the job, working in the oil and gas industry. You're telling me that these guys used pipe wrenches as hammers in a nuclear facility? I'd nope out of there real quick. I can risk losing a job, versus millions / billions of damage to property. That isn't even including the priceless lives of my coworkers.
@brentfarvors1923 жыл бұрын
It's the military; You can't "quit"...Well, you CAN, but you spend some time in Leavenworth...They USED TO...
@rubendejong48953 жыл бұрын
I use anything i can find as a hamer if i Dont have a real hamer close but in somthing this dangerous nope
@Toxic2T3 жыл бұрын
@George Thomas 1 word, corruption.
@etherealrose21392 жыл бұрын
You don't understand army do you? Lol
@sergarlantyrell78472 жыл бұрын
I don't think a real Hammer is the right tool for the job either... Some sort of controllable jack seems far more suitable.
@just4kickz933 жыл бұрын
Please, PLEASE keep doing these. This is seriously one of the greatest docu-series-esc things I've ever seen, and it's been absolutely mind blowing, and i can only hope you continue doing things like this. I love your other content, but this is just.... this is good.
@davidhurgeton89902 жыл бұрын
I walked this site in early 1992. In addition, I snapped a picture of a prototype nuclear aircraft engine in front of what I assume was the former offsite hot shop. Love the videos, Kyle.
@cheyennegottler9743 жыл бұрын
Edited: I honestly don't know how i goofed up the name of the literal channel, my bad lol. I'm distantly related to Richard Legg. My grandfather would've been his first cousin once removed. There's another book I believe called "The SL-1 Incident" which details far more, my mom has read it and I intend to read the rest of it when I come back to my hometown next year. This book had information that wasn't declassified by the gov until like 2003. I wanted to thank the heck out of Kyle Hill who took the time to make a vid on this event. You hit it right on the dot on how this could've been prevented if the government didn't neglect the needed maintenance. I was also never able to find an actual picture of him online anywhere, but I'm so glad someone could find this. I'm really thankful because I never knew what he looked like. 🙏🏻 I also wanted to clear up a few important factors regarding the drama the media portrayed on the incident to distract the severe government neglect on the facility at hand. There was no murder/suicide. This was an act of carelessness and leaving dangerous responsibilities on people with limited experience. Like Kyle described in the video, Chernobyl happened in the same fashion. The reason Legg headbutted with Byrnes (sorry if I used the wrong name, couldn't remember which one was the one w/ marriage probs) at that party was because Byrnes was sneaking off with prostitutes when Legg knew he was married. The men drank and partied at the same places. Even if there was a love triangle, which I highly doubt, Byrnes already screwed it up. Family have always said Richard and his brothers were troublesome and downright cocky, but he really was sick of the way Byrnes acted. Also a portion of Legg's remains did get sent back to be buried in my hometown in MI. It was put into a lead capsule and buried in so many feet of concrete. The government used to have to come out to the gravesite yearly to check radiation levels but I'm not sure if they do anymore. The burial was a bit creepy on its own bc apparently they didn't mix the concrete right and the capsule sarcophagus just popped back up, scared the hell out of the town.
@thilsiktonix Жыл бұрын
Interesting to know, thank you!
@iRunavala Жыл бұрын
You wrote "John", but they're addressed as "Kyle". Tell me you don't watch this channel without telling me you don't watch this channel. 💀 Edit: Also, there's pictures of Richard Legg on Google... Nice try.
@cheyennegottler974 Жыл бұрын
@Runavala No, I don't watch this channel relatively often. This video was suggested to me and i subscribed not long after. Yes, I confused the names from one of the men mentioned in this event. My deepest apologies. If you know of any other existing photo online besides the one this video showed, it'd be kinda greatly appreciated if you dropped a link? I don't personally know who his direct descendants are, as I said they're distant cousins of my maternal grandfather or somewhere on my mother's side anyway. My mother seldom visited his close family as they were very private. She met his mother a couple of times and apparently showed her a photo of him but that was like, close to 45 years ago now. She'd be more enthused to see other photos than I would! Feel free to be a jerk and disregard my comments as a big fabricated lie but at least drop a link to the other photos you claim to see? If I really have to, I'll figure out how to link a personal photo of my Kingston school card I still have in my wallet lol. I have like dozens of photos of Legg family closer to my side (edit: possibly one of his brothers as well) at my moms place but ya won't get that for another 6 months lol. Quite sure my mom has Legg family tree copies from Ancestry as well, it's literally my grandfather's mother's maiden name...
@cheyennegottler974 Жыл бұрын
@Runavala yooo, you got a link pls? Like I said ik that the one pic this video mentioned is online but if you know of any other existing photo on here that'd be, well, nice?
@Nick_Slavik3 жыл бұрын
Pleeeeeeeease, pleeeeeease keep making these videos! I'm really enjoying the Half Life Histories series you're doing! You always thank us for watching, I wanna say thank you, and the whole facility staff (yes, including Kevin(s) lol) for all this content! Can't wait for the next one :D
@iragremka3 жыл бұрын
This video stuck to me long after the credits rolled. The ambiance, the story-telling, the visual descriptions, all of it, Kyle, was a masterpiece. Great job!
@killman3695472 жыл бұрын
I believe what happened was the rod got stuck and maybe after a minute or two of trying to gently work it free he got frustrated a bit and gave the control rod a yank. And perhaps with him not being in the best state of mind for work he yanked it a bit harder than he probably should have and the rod moved more than he anticipated. I bet he instantly realized his mistake but there was just no time to fix it.
@TheCrzedmortal3 жыл бұрын
I was a nuclear electrician in the navy , we had to learn about this accident .
@nathaniel31023 жыл бұрын
When I joined, you score above 90 on the ASVAB, they were practically begging you to go nuke.
@faithrider943 жыл бұрын
@@nathaniel3102 I didnt end up joining, but i was working with the navy for 3 years because of asvab scores and they were really trying to get me to go nuke.
@nathaniel31023 жыл бұрын
@@faithrider94 Too bad you didn't sign, but at least you were NAVY adjacent, so thanks for your support 🤜🤛 ...but yeah, I kept thinking "wow, should I be worried? Is there some big nuclear program in the works or something?" ...so instead I went AECF (which now has a different designation) instead of nuke, but my cousin went nuke and ended up just polishing warheads in [redacted] 😜.
@wasd____3 жыл бұрын
@@nathaniel3102 Navy nukes don't polish warheads, they only work on reactors.
@nathaniel31023 жыл бұрын
@@wasd____ Didn't say my cousin was NAVY. He's AF, and that is what he told me. But thanks for calling me out. Want my DD214?
@Zaradorian3 жыл бұрын
So in other words, this happened bc we treated the nuclear reactor like we do our infrastructure.
@taterthepenguin3 жыл бұрын
Which is why I will never support nuclear power in America. We treat our infrastructure like shit and our workforce like shit, it's only a matter of time before we push our luck and get stuck with our own Yee-Haw Chernobyl
@codyh123ful3 жыл бұрын
yes
@CodeineAbdulJabbar3 жыл бұрын
@@taterthepenguin if you think the US is bad then move to a third world country and tell me how that is. People don't know how good they have it lmao.
@DivinityOfBLaze3 жыл бұрын
@@CodeineAbdulJabbar If you have to move to a third world country to compare the badness of US infrastructure that's more damning of the US than anything.
@BunkerStrategist3 жыл бұрын
@@CodeineAbdulJabbar most third world countries are like that because of the US. It's not a vacuum. Worse still we shouldn't be pointing at said countries to have an example of something worse. That shows we're in the bottom of the barrel, which is a terrible realization to be ok with.
@itsjohannawren2 жыл бұрын
I keep coming back to this series. The stories are more than captivating, they're still valid and still teach us things. Thank you.
@tonyfourpaws45112 жыл бұрын
I left Oregon 2 days ago to move to Montana. stayed at a really cool donation based private campground in Arco. REALLY cool little town with super nice people. I got to talk to a nice old lady who's husband was one of the people who died. Her son, went back to help clean up the site.
@WarpFactor9993 жыл бұрын
Kyle, this was excellent. I worked in the nuclear power field for 20 years and taught SL-1, Chernobyl, and TMI scenarios. You simplified some of the facts, but did an excellent job!!! Well done good sir.
@Zsokorad3 жыл бұрын
In my book...the moment you start an alarm on purpose just to startle coworkers, you're fired and reported to all the other facilities so you can never work in the industry again.
@taterthepenguin3 жыл бұрын
Problem is, in America, as soon as you make that call to HR, YOU'RE the troublemaker now.
@leavy3 жыл бұрын
@@taterthepenguin what
@mattjk52993 жыл бұрын
@@leavy he's getting at something but I can say that practices today in any safety critical industry would get fucked professionally by such actions, attitudes were much more cowboyish back then
@Teatime4Tom3 жыл бұрын
Glad you covered this. It's not as well known, but it deserves to be remembered.
@Tekdruid2 жыл бұрын
From what I've read, the SL-1 was an accident waiting to happen, cursed by design and exacerbated by poor maintenance.