L2 Automotive clay modeling for the home builder. Leviathan Supervan project.

[@mopedmarathon]

Your ability to stay clean whilst using messy materials blows my mind. I get so engrossed in what I’m doing I end up covered. Just lucky I don’t work with sewage I guess. Keep up the great work!

[@BuilderCreator]

That would indeed be "enGROSSEed!"

[@christopheaglaee8422]

I can’t how involved this project is... that’s pretty much magic happening here! Thanks for sharing your process ,since many of us could see it for the first time .not the first time for me,but even though your editing could be more « youtubesk »,you remain a huge value into this entire world of digital creations. Bravo!

[@BuilderCreator]

Yeah, I suppose one could develop an editing/production style that was more engaging and intriguing, but I'm lucky to get the work and the editing done as it is. Ha! Thanks for watching.

[@BitHead1000]

I feel so lucky to be able to follow this build. Awesome!

[@BuilderCreator]

We're lucky to deliver the content, Thanks for following.

[@brunobalestra]

I designed a van back in college that never escaped my mind. I'll share it sometime but always thought I'd be cool to do a camper of some sort, albeit never one of the overland kind. Congrats again on actually building something instead of bashing other people's dream like so many on the internet.

[@BuilderCreator]

Yep, trying to inspire rather than set fire!

[@bumfie]

just fantastic . Thanks for sharing all your creativity . Very inspirational ..

[@Moonisnear1]

Thank you again for another video! 3rd review...SWEET!

[@lvn968]

Looking forward to follow this project as well ! Thx for sharing !

[@kristenclark2237]

So excited to see this project from the begining... Love watching you work in clay. (Reminds me of watching dad as a child ).. This is on my bucket list of vehicles to own.

[@BuilderCreator]

You know where the molds will be!

[@VF1Skullangel]

I'm planning on building Puerto Rico's first super exotic Called "Corsario" which is going to be a throwback to the Vector W8, Isdera and Tommy Karia ZZII. You're videos and information are big!

[@BuilderCreator]

Would love to see your progress. Isdera Is one of my favorites!!

[@VF1Skullangel]

@@BuilderCreator I'm still learning how to sketch. It looks like a Vector W2 and Isdera 108 at the moment

[@souvikdey9178]

It is very nice the way you point your finger to the corner at the start of the video. It would be better if you put an inset where your finger points and start rest of the video from that inset by expanding it. Thanks and good luck for new amphibious project.

[@BuilderCreator]

I'll try that transition. Thanks.

[@joshsoorlin579]

Looks awesome looks to be super tall ! Cant wait to see its presense i hope u hire people so that it can come to life within a reasonable amount of time and not like 5 yesrs

[@BuilderCreator]

In the plans. People and budget. Ha!

[@markkennedy4055]

Hi, I really like where you are going with your concept. However I do have concerns as to the spare 40" wheel and tire mount location. If you consider the weight of the spare and the height the average person would not be able to lift or handle it. Assisted lift arm would somehow need to be implemented. I would also increase the tire size to minimum 44" Given the bulk size of the vehicle. Not telling you what to do..merely suggesting.

[@BuilderCreator]

Spare retrieval is a great idea. We have gone with 40" max as our design limit as tires over that start to get extremely expensive, especially when you factor in wheels and gear changes etc.

[@ducknorris233]

Clerestory, in architecture, any fenestrated (windowed) wall of a room that is carried higher than the surrounding roofs to light the interior space.

[@BuilderCreator]

Even after 25 years of designing houses I learn something I should have been privy to all this time!

[@bradmaas6875]

Looks to be about 120" tall and 360" long. Beast.

[@BuilderCreator]

110 x 300 . . good eye!

[@bradmaas6875]

@@BuilderCreator remember 11'8" bridge.. Air adjustable height?

[@Jupiter__001_]

@@bradmaas6875 Air ride on the campervan for that shlammed aesthetic. 30° negative camber and underglow, and tinted headlights to show off your drip.

[@bradmaas6875]

@@Jupiter__001_ Adjustable suspension will allow for better ride over various terrain, and no, I don't show my drip to anyone thank you. Ha ha.

[@teamdas3dstudio368]

Reminds me of the '71 VW Phoenix ;-)

[@BuilderCreator]

Just looked up the phoenix . . Pop out sides and everything. Good ideas never die- just recycled.

[@teamdas3dstudio368]

@@BuilderCreator Absolutely, designers almost always reshuffle things and rarely create something completly out of the wild. Subconscience plays also a big role in our minds and, we are often influenced by memories and things we might even have noticed just very briefly in the past without actively remembering. nothing bad in that.

[@pauliusgruodis137]

The design looks like something you'd see in Judge Dredd movies.

[@punkbloater]

I like the design, don’t know how final this is but in my opinion the wheels look to small, I think if they where bigger they would balance better with the rest of the design. I guess you have reasons for it beeing that way but I’m just going on looks here. Exciting project! 😊👍🏻

[@myopinion69420]

40" tyres are pretty damn big. not cheap either. you have to remember this thing is going to be quite massive. the bigger the tyre, the more issues you run into with driveline.

[@punkbloater]

@@myopinion69420 yeah, but like I said... it LOOKS to small in the design, as in with the rest of the car. So not talking numbers here, just looking at the whole thing.

[@biggest23]

Yeah, they do look oddly small relative to the bulk above them.

[@iainmacpherson6858]

You said your using polycarbonet for windows have you thought about how you would escape if it capsized or some other situations where you can't open the doors ( with the flotation tanks it's unlikely but it's something to think about)

[@jamesackerman723]

Maybe an emergency hatch in the roof like in school busses could work... I feel the roof should be flattened a bit design wise anyways, atm the mohawk looks a little too round??

[@BuilderCreator]

The roof hatch that was originally over the passenger behind the driver, will be moved center to the celerstory/mowhawk that extends to the cab.

[@oikkuoek]

Very glad to see you dropped the amphibious part from the design name. There are still problems.. Ground clearance and overhangs to be more precise. A rule of thumb for off road vehicles is, you can't build an overhang longer than the radius of the tyre, and even then the angle from the rubber surface has to be very steep. It will grab, and get the vehicle stuck. And anything below the axle line, works as an ancor on soft surface. To get an off road vehicle to climb over anything; creeks, ditches, rocks, tree tunks, bad condition back roads, any overhang over the wheel is going to cause issues. So where the rim stops, should the body stop also. This way the rubber has the most surface to grab onto, and climb over obstacles.

[@psibitful2]

Looks like the wheel base could indeed be lengthened. This may add significant complexity, but consider doubling up on the back axle. The sharply chopped body projections that run along the sides beg for a more aerodynamic termination. They add a lot of interest, but maybe taper or chamfer them back into the main body.

[@oikkuoek]

@@psibitful2 Even with double axles, that design will get stuck on a river bank in any steep (natural) crossing. The nose is too long and hanging low.

[@psibitful2]

@@oikkuoek Right, what I meant is the wheel base should be made longer at the expense of the overhangs.

[@oikkuoek]

@@psibitful2 Not a bad idea, but there is also a limit on the wheelbase. When climing up a river bank, if the wheelbase is too long, the vehicle gets stuck by it's belly. This can be redeemed by adding more ground clearance, but then the mass centre lifts also making the vehicle top heavy and unstable. Making a working Off-Road vehicle, the balance between these factors has very small margin.

[@psibitful2]

@@oikkuoek Sure, the potential of getting stuck increases if the author goes for the comfort of an XL wheelbase. It's likely that the goal here is safely getting to the next RV park using reasonable roads. This truck should be fantastic for all of that.

[@TMFXLLC]

A great clay trick for Chavant or similar is to cheese grate it all up, makes it really easy to be additive and control volumes. Store it in a plastic bag and working under a warm lamp is enough to make it really user friendly.

[@BuilderCreator]

I usually don't mind smells, (think polyester resin. Ha!) but Chavant stinks terrible!

[@TMFXLLC]

@@BuilderCreator same, I love most shop smells. Have you tried Monster Clay?

[@BuilderCreator]

​@@TMFXLLC I've seen it on art supply websites, but have never used it. I use JMack classic clay (medium). It is more of a sculptors clay, but I am familiar with it and always have a 100lbs on hand. I see you have an old mixed use building (HQ) your fixing up. Sounds like a great project!

[@TMFXLLC]

@@BuilderCreator I emailed to save you a wall of text lol.

[@Raven-Creations]

Looks interesting, although not really my thing. You mentioned using polycarbonate (PC) for the side bubbles. It's definitely strong, but it's certainly not scratch resistant. It's used in motorsport, but the reason it's not road legal for windscreens is that it scratches up a treat. One drive in the wet with a dusty windscreen would render it pretty much opaque. In motorsport, the teams are usually fastidious about cleaning the screens, so when they do need to use wipers, they're less likely to be swiping dust across the screen. It's also not legal (in the UK at least) for side windows, because you need to be able to break it in an emergency, which is something you may need to consider. For scratch resistance, you may be able to use a clear wrap to function like a screen protector on a phone. Some motorsport formulae use tear-off windscreen covers, a bit like tear-off strips for motorcycle visors, so the technology is available. Note that I'm not suggesting you shouldn't use PC, just tempering your expectations; it's properties are often wildly overstated. You may feel that you can live with a few scratches from trees, and you may not need to be able to break it in emergency. If you're planning on vacuum forming it yourself, you may want to reach out to the DarkAero project. They've already been through a lot of the pain getting good results for their cockpit canopy. On the subject of tempering expectations, I remember Mythbusters, and how they used PC for their blast shields "because it's virtually indestructible". Years later, they tested it, and it was nowhere near blast proof, and they'd been placing their trust in it for their safety all those years. I think Adam Savage described it as a sobering experience.

[@BuilderCreator]

Lots to consider of every medium . . just need some transparent aluminum! Ha!

[@daveffs1935]

Just a thought, the strip that runs above the floatation tanks, us it flat on the front for a reason? It might lead to a lot of wind noise being a flat surface right next to the cab. It's looking cool as frig

[@BuilderCreator]

There will be lighting there. Part of David Levy's concept that we borrowed.

[@ShreddedSteel]

Today is the day!

[@iarethecrux]

Dude that would be an amazing new design for “Rachet” from transformers.

[@mikeleonard8031]

I would like to see you finish your first project or did you lose interest? Are you still going to build your 5axis CNC router?

[@BuilderCreator]

Arete videos still every Thursday. Bringing in help for the Leviathan project. Update on the CNC coming.

[@perkristianeriksen8095]

I Love your videos. But what is the plan for the High mounted rear wheels ? Spears, or drive wheels for crazy terrain.

[@BuilderCreator]

Single spare. When you are off-roading, with rare tires sizes, it is always wise to carry a spare!

[@BallinBuilds]

great video so cool i really like the clay modeling!! hope it does well in production!!!👍

[@Davids70Chevy]

Do you have any concerns on overlapping projects? And what would you say is a clear indication that you can handle an additional project vs when you can’t?

[@BuilderCreator]

Yeah, the main concern is, that it will be a LOT of work, but "By the sweat of thy face," is our lot and calling. Perhaps after this I can paint and read\write philosophy! HA! Today's video will give you more answers.

[@tetracontrol]

have you considered increase the wheelbase and put bigger wheels? Maybe won't be better but sells

[@myopinion69420]

he mentions the wheels will be 40", thats pretty big as it is. the longer the wheelbase the harder it will be to maneuver around "in the bush". would probably make steering in the water harder to.

[@tetracontrol]

@@myopinion69420 As i said maybe won't be better but will look way better. American market are full of good stuff that doesn't sells because of the appearance

[@sixstringstruggle6508]

Wow. Soooooo good.

[@halnywiatr]

This project is a candidate for a continuous center of gravity study. If this ends up with heavy components above any centerline then it will be very roley-poley, especially on a cross slope.

[@BuilderCreator]

How about 2 tons of pig iron ballast in the bilge? Ha!

[@halnywiatr]

That ~could~ work, but it's a lot of ore to be transporting cross-country. Water ballast tanks would be a better solution.

[@camperlab6546]

Nice! Are you planning to test a model in a "water tunnel"?

[@falosny]

Maybe a channel

[@thereefaholic]

What are the most common issues that many of today’s RVs have particularly when using them off road is a high center of gravity. In fact some of these vehicles particularly truck campers flip over quite often on the highways. I would certainly be concerned with a height on this based on that model.

[@BuilderCreator]

height is not necessarily the downfall of the center of gravity issue. Since locating most of the mass low is the solution, that is were I am focusing my efforts; all aluminum and light weight composites above the floor line.

[@thereefaholic]

That’s true but people notoriously start filling up their recreational vehicles with things and those things raise the center of gravity. Yes I would imagine if you keep all of your storage below the waterline it wouldn’t be an issue.

[@divyanshsrivastava7312]

sir, how are you thinking of implementing electronics like switching to the aqueous mode and extending the section for camping mode, and will that even be an issue? Secondly is the mohawk just for aesthetics or does it have any specific purpose? Thank you... it would be awesome to see this new build take shape 😊👍

[@BuilderCreator]

There will be hydraulics on board that can be used for extending flotation tanks and wall lifts. Investigating the use of hydraulics for water propulsion in the stern drive as well. The mohawk lowers the perceived roof height while still allowing teller passengers head height. It will also stiffen what would other wise be a large flat roof that would need ribs or other heavy structural members to span the distance. Breaks up the boxy look as well.

[@divyanshsrivastava7312]

@@BuilderCreator got it, Last question did you wake up right now or going to sleep? 😂😂

[@BuilderCreator]

@@divyanshsrivastava7312 On the last comment I was just about to do a few more hours of work before I went to bed. This comment I have been up for a few hours.

[@eddjordan2399]

Looks very top heavy can't you move the wheels out a bit?

[@whatyoudo9773]

never understood why you can't put a prop on the diff? I know it would have to be very protected but the dang drive-shaft is called a prop-shaft, there must be a way to combine them no? Have a separate off-set shaft that tucks up into the chassis and then drops down?

[@BuilderCreator]

Propeller (water) speeds need to be much higher than auto drive shaft speeds and "gearing back up" would be an awful lot of frictional loss.

[@whatyoudo9773]

@@BuilderCreator I see that makes sense, not sure what gearing back up means but I assume running it through a multiplier would also create mucho drag, still seems a clever design if it was possible.

[@alexgimas]

Hello. I follow your channel and I'm a big fan of yours. But I have been following the Leviathan project and one point worries me. The vehicle has a huge problem. It is too tall for the width of the front and rear axles shown in addition to its short wheelbase. The base is smaller than the height and width. This makes it unstable for both urban and off-road environments. For use on land and uneven floors, it certainly wouldn't support 15 degrees of inclination, which is too little.

[@BuilderCreator]

It is not a matter of size, but of mass. I am going to great effort and expense to keep the weight (center of gravity) low. The upper structure is all aluminum or foam core composites. Likely half the weight of a traditional motor home. We will get to see what capabilities it has, I shouldn't think it can't attack places that the heavy Man or Unimog overlanders traverse and at a fourth their weight maybe some they can't. Thanks for following the build!

[@moagoo5714]

I love it!

[@kageyme8109]

That's Captain Scarlets vehicle !!

[@SunilSundar]

Does the clay dry out and crack?

[@BuilderCreator]

No, it is an oil based clay, it will last as long as you can keep it clean.

[@stuntdrvr]

best to poke holes in foam with a pencil..and then brush on Amber shellac.

[@tazanteflight8670]

Will you be able to license, and title (street legal) either of your projects?

[@BuilderCreator]

Yes it shouldn't be a problem.

[@yurishnirman3847]

Dope, I want one too. Curious how much $ it would run

[@BuilderCreator]

We will be showing you all expenses and costs so that you can have a good idea of affordability when it gets close to manufacturing it.

[@yurishnirman3847]

@@BuilderCreator awesome :)

[@bobdavis3389]

Your shirt , TRD , Toyota Racing Division ?

[@BuilderCreator]

The Arete is Toyota powered!

[@noface960]

Cool

[@zero9er1]

Do you have the link for this clay. Can i have the link please. Tq

[@BuilderCreator]

Search "J-Mac Classic clay" on the internet to find a distributor.

[@jonnyringo6338]

Kind of reminds me of the Shado2 from UFO in the 80s.

[@BuilderCreator]

Ha! Another throwback to go with Arc II and Damnation alley's landmaster. Also just came across Colani Sea Ranger. I see a trend from the 80s that may be coming back. ;)

[@kruleworld]

If it doesn't work out as a production design, he can always hire it out as a prop for movies...

[@jesusaguirre3626]

Your the best I would love to build my own lamborghini urus I hope if can give me ideas

[@BuilderCreator]

My best ideas every Thursday! And sometimes Tuesdays. Ha!

[@vf6091]

look like a allied MCV in red alert 2

[@bobdavis3389]

You are just sculpting this from your thoughts ? No drawings ?

[@BuilderCreator]

Some rough sketches and elevations in CAD.

[@hand-madebya441]

👍👍👍👍

[@BuilderCreator]

Your a very patient man to hand cut all that brass!

[@hand-madebya441]

@@BuilderCreator Thanks

[@kiwihame]

In grey it reminds me of a large African animal.

[@StreetMachine18]

Rhino or hippo?

[@jeffreypetrellii7862]

Looks like a dinosaur skull, I vote to change the name to wtfasaurus

[@o0julek0o]

If you don't make it amphibious I'll be really sad.

[@shawnhollahan590]

Front overhang is way too big for off roading.... plus is a huge area of wasted space unless the driver is forward of the front wheels which is lethal in a crash.

[@BuilderCreator]

It hasn't slowed down Tatras or HEMTT military transport trucks.

[@shawnhollahan590]

@@BuilderCreator PS... It has slowed them down because their design choices have never spread beyond the military and into driveways. Hummers made it to the public, Military Transports have not because there are safety and liability laws for production vehicles..

[@wackenthaljef]

The man has not enough work....

[@jarpi2.090]

First😱

[@bitkarek]

you can register cybervan before Musk will :D

[@capt_beefheart4159]

Looks kinda like a Pontiac Aztek. You planin' to make meth out in the desert? :)

[@marktank7623]

Why are you spending time on this when the car isn’t finished? Makes me think you are getting bored with the car.

[@BuilderCreator]

No, it is purely an economic move and a commitment to being a KZbin creator. Unless another 900 thousand subscribers join in; ad revenue will never support all the fun we are having. Ha! I believe there is more economic opportunity in the Leviathan than trying breaking into the crowded supercar world. The Arete is just for my ego (isn't every exotic car. Ha!) I'll only be bored with it when I feel like going camping!

[@nickknight8065]

Looking forward to this project, but to be honest, I hate the name Leviathan.

[@BuilderCreator]

We will call yours the Knight 2000! Oh. . . . no, that name is taken as well!

[@nickknight8065]

@@BuilderCreator Haha! And no offense intended. Your model is amazing, and I've never seen a video of the clay modeling process. Fantastic.

[@D3OA_]

4th i think

[@khaledabuoun2260]

Hi

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[@jjmmjj9999]

9th