L85A2 GUN GUIDE Insurgency Sandstorm

[@pygzig]

yoo havin' a bloodeh larf mayt? you won' sum? i'l giv' it ya'!

[@iFarbod7]

lmao this comment should be pinned

[@SickSnipes]

o i y a d o z y l a r d i ' l l h a v e y o u k n o w I ' m a e w t e w b e r

[@vikingoperator9873]

@@SickSnipes Can you cover the Barret M82A1?

[@c01byj4ck3]

Yoo a wanka maet

[@jonathanwithak4586]

CHEEEWWWSDAY INNIT

[@incredibleally6284]

The A2 actually ironed out most of the problems the A1 had and is very serviceable irl, especially after the Daniel Defence rail system was added to the front to make it more modular. It was so serviceable, in fact, that the A3 is essentially the same gun with a full length picatinny rail at the top. The bad reputation of the A1 cast a big shadow that still looms over the SA80 today, whereas the gun can easily compete with the M4. Also the reason for the unicorn in the logo is because that's Scotland's national animal :)

[@deleteduser7132]

Yeah it’s so great even the SAS use it. Oh wait they don’t.

[@incredibleally6284]

@@deleteduser7132 Neither do the Royal Marines anymore, they both use the L119A2. Didn't say it was top shelf stuff, I said it was serviceable. It does the job well enough to hold its own.

[@kyntac187]

@@incredibleally6284 Well you did say it was easily able to compete with M4s, which would imply it is top shelf. There is a considerable distance between "being servicable" and competing with one of the most popular rifle platforms.

[@incredibleally6284]

@@kyntac187 The M4 is only serviceable too though. Its not as good as the media has you think. It does its job, and it does it well but it's not a top shelf gun either. There are many guns that would out perform it and the SA80 can easily compete. The reason it's so widely popular is because it's an affordable package (from a military pov) on top of being functional. EDIT: Spelling

[@kju520]

Cope

[@jakew7982]

The A2 had had no issues. I’ve used it in many different theatres and locales, from the Baltic’s to Africa and the Middle East, I’ve never had a jam or misfire. The A1 had issues, but Reddit being Reddit pretend to be experts but have never even touched what they’re expressing opinions on.

[@sadaamwutang5041]

Facts

[@samhinder2224]

I think in an international test it outperformed some really good guns, including the G36, AUG, and M16. Though apparently its a bit too heavy for some folks

[@realbowlingbunny]

Only real issue this gun has today is that you will shoot it right handed and you will like it. Southpaws be damned.

[@praporbarton3961]

The main reason why I use L85 is it's beautiful "karate chop" reload

[@Max_Hostility]

It only does the karate chop to make sure there aren't any stoppages.

[@matheusgclassen]

Since HK used its magic to produce the A2 the L85 is actually often regarded as a very reliable and accurate weapon by those who use it, too bad the reputation of the A1 rubbed off on it.

[@jakew7982]

Tbh, the only people who think that way get their information from rainbow six and MW Reddit threads. Doesn’t really matter too much at the end of the day.

[@DOT107]

tbf its also a relatively heavy rifle, the SA80. hopefully a newer design comes out for an A4 series

[@-Flea]

My dad was deployed with the SA80 during the Gulf War. He used the A1 variant. He stated, that on many times as soon as he and his buddies had the chance to pick up an Iraqi AK and vest, they would. Why would you run around with a 5.56 that doesn’t work in sand when you can run a 7.62 that would run in a sandstorm. Refuses to tell me HOW he got his hands on an AK, but there’s a photo of him and his pals chillin with ak’s, pkp etc. My cousin has used the A2, says it’s a beautiful weapon and he owes his life to it. Now I’m set to be deployed with the A3 in a few months (if all goes well) so I’ll try to remember to give my opinion on that!

[@freshfrozen3035]

As a marine cadet I’d rather have AK than sa80

[@its_saval]

your whole family serves the military? sounds like family tradition

[@-Flea]

@@its_saval hell yeah runs in my veins, hundreds of years worth of tradition my friend :)

[@jukebox_heroperson3994]

An opinion on it yet?

[@khakipeach2128]

@@-Flea I want to join the US military, Id be the first in my entire family

[@theLV2]

There's a handful of these less used guns that people find unremarkable that are actually really well balanced (cough cough G36)

[@picatdim]

The only horrible thing about the G36 is the goddamn grenade launcher sight when playing as Demo. That thing is perfectly placed to block a lot of the most important part of the screen, lol.

[@Kongjie57]

Love G36 its ggreat!

[@owenrees5843]

I love the G36 although I find the barrel length an issue (sometimes), it’s a little too costly as well for how I set up my guns but hey I could probably drop some things anyway to make up

[@no-legjohnny3691]

2:07 - "After all, there are some other modern weapons with less-than-perfect dabeus." Oh yeah, the M16 got off to a *very* rocky start, mainly thanks to some minor issues such as the humid jungles of Vietnam mixed with the fact that soldiers didn't properly clean them because they believed the myth that it cleaned itself as you fired it.

[@russetwolf13]

Well that and they issued it ammo that used cheap powder that Armalite specifically told them not to use. By the way the "self cleaning" thing wasn't a mistake it was a misstatement. The AR is a Self Clearing design, the gas system blasts debris out of the gun, preventing dust, dirt and mud from infiltrating the locking lugs. Basically using bad powder is the primary way you kill an AR, it won't die just from dirt and mud.

[@joshstarkey3022]

I’ve used the L85A2 extensively and while it isn’t perfect the malfunctions are few and far between (mainly has a stoppage when using blanks) the main down side is it’s basically the heaviest general service rifle (that I know of) which when lugging it around all day can get quite tiring.

[@SickSnipes]

Yeah too be honest I can't talk much trash seeing how badly the AR-15 (M4A1/M16) did in Vietnam at the beginning of its life

[@fishchips7435]

@@SickSnipes when you look into the AR-15s start it wasn't really the rifles fault.

[@joshstarkey3022]

@@fishchips7435 the M16A1s problems were mainly being made out of cheaper materials causing it to corrode in the chamber causing stoppages as-well as cheaply made ammunition which also rusted. So it wasn’t really the weapons fault as this could have been avoided or at least delayed by proper field admin. So in a few ways is was the users fault but mainly if they just made the rifle with better materials it would have been avoided. Where as the L85A1 had heaps of problems due to design flaws and bad quality control.

[@Sturmischer]

@@joshstarkey3022 not the A1, the A1 fixed those problems. The original M16 is the one with those problems and it only took them a few months to fix them. Compare that to the decades it took to unfuck the L85...

[@amadeusagripino6862]

@@fishchips7435 yes, it was the Army's fault

[@atinofspam3433]

Its a shame the A3 isn’t in the game, I think the new tan look, new optic and new handrail look really nice compared to the A2.

[@squeemcgee1086]

Well I mean the A3 and A2 perform about the same so there wouldn't be much use

[@tomsullivanmartinez8943]

I want to point out that velocity directly correlates to damage. The penetration is about how well the bullet goes through armor and obstacles, but velocity determines the base damage.

[@fin4204]

1:52 Yes HK is german but they were owned by the BAE at the time (iirc)

[@nihilblue9669]

Best thing about L85 are the crisp reload animations.

[@SickSnipes]

When your guy HK slaps the charging handle.

[@god4143]

@@SickSnipes can 100% do that on the bolt release catch, I do it myself 💀

[@Wuschi2001]

My man pronounced Koch correctly. Give this man a hug

[@marmalade4010]

The l85a2 was a very reliable service rifle, the misconception of the jams and unreliability cane from the l85a1 which is no longer in service with the British armed forces

[@DivingHawker]

It feels like a hipster AUG : "I was an AUG before it was cool". Seriously, I see a lot of similarities between the 2 guns except it feels somewhat smoother than the AUG in my opinion.

[@DivingHawker]

@ I'm talking about in-game appearance. The L85 was there before the AUG.

[@HackMcMack]

You love to see it. One of my favorite videogame rifles ever since battlefield 3 and 4 where that thing was once again a sleeper hit (imo). Low recoil and just a little more range than seems necessary for an assault rifle make it such a good all-rounder. Glad to see it getting some love in this game too!

[@Gerwulf97]

It has a 20 inch barrel, so it has the same as the M16, and has a proper length barrel for the velocity dependent 5.56, unlike the M4 or MK18.

[@jacklucas5908]

I've managed to immortalise myself on the internet it seems.

[@mw29]

Jokes on you I was featured in an other snipes video too

[@picatdim]

I knew it, you sneaky KZbinr! *Nobody* forgets about the L85 after using it once in Sandstorm :P

[@alexye0079]

i wish they make a world war 2 game with this engine, the graphics is just out of this world amazing! already have hell let loose, post scriptum and enlisted.

[@CheemsofRegret]

Who knows, maybe they'll bring back Day of Infamy one day

[@pdebie1982]

Tried this gun out after watching this video and it's just awesome! It punches really hard and is super accurate even at long distances.

[@johndoe62804]

So glad Insurgency Sandstorm has no "jamming" replication.

[@idk4772]

Honestly it's a really good gun really accurate

[@Dr.Corn1]

Can’t believe they stole this gun from Rainbow Six Siege smh

[@SickSnipes]

NWI plagiarizers??? New video expose out soon

[@Kongjie57]

@@SickSnipes still waiting 😉

[@HJDore]

Could we see the g3a3 gun guide in Season 4?

[@Tavis15ify]

G3 is a lovely beast

[@bluecaptainIT]

Now you can!

[@filipinogamer21]

Thanks for putting my comment in the video haha. I also would like to thank you for these guides that you're putting out for sandstorm, nobody else is doing this stuff for the new updates. Keep up the great work!

[@TactiGamer]

Love it mate. Keep it up

[@Elbow1878]

British military still uses the L85A2. The “a3” isn’t a new iteration of the weapon, just updated parts that replace the barrel housing from what I can tell. I’ve seen some people say it’s now one of the best rifles on the planet, but then the likes of Christian Craighead (former 22 sas) says it’s awful, though, he could be referring to the A1 - which is obviously notoriously bad.

[@davidkatz1503]

Outstanding video. I just found your channel and I’m already a big fan. One note though, Heckler & Koch is actually just pronounced “coke” like the soft drink.

[@tomsoki5738]

HK was British owned and operated when the A2 upgrade was done, it’s why they chose HK to do it instead of just going straight to BAE, the (at the time) parent company of HK

[@ZombieDeathProof]

for the record this gun slapped in BF3 and everyone slept on it. seems like the same thing in sandstorm.

[@Matt-Durham]

The L85A2/3 has been proven to be more accurate than the M16/M4 family, at the time HK was owned by the British Government, not the Germans. It packs more of a punch than the m4, the L86 LSW is another gun I wish they would add.

[@CB-dr1jm]

Bruh, your "Hi" ☠️☠️☠️ I'm dead Everytime. 😂 😂

[@ilovemobilegameads8898]

I love it for the supressor on frontlines or push

[@luissimon9004]

i wanna see shotguns vhs and qbz eventualy, this is some really good content and i cant get enough!!

[@hrldp4394]

next up Monsieur Snipes, le FAMAS! si il te plait ^^ as we lost our old clairon for a 416

[@connorbutters8479]

tbh the gun made for people who have probably never shot a gun in their life needs to be this good or they'll never hit anything

[@mfbeeno]

missed opportunity to do a brit*sh accent the entire episode

[@SickSnipes]

b r i ' i s h

[@heresytoburn3358]

@@SickSnipes your not funny by mocking an accent. like us mocking america for being the most obese country in the world

[@thecaledonian7643]

The Unicorn in the Royal Coat of Arms represents Scotland, btw

[@Welsh_Veteran_420_Z]

After 4 years in the Army the SA80 is the best rifle I fired... It's also the only rifle I fired 😂

[@joaquimliengme4989]

Those vids are so well done, would love to see G3 or RPK. Have a good year yall

[@100p9]

The l85a2 is a good rifle now and many soldiers say they would much rather have it than any other rifle the stigma comes from the a1 which was awful

[@möth39E]

First day. And I used it. And got six kills off the bat. I like it.

[@Brothercole1994]

Snipes, your content is awesome. Would love to see a video of your thoughts on the game currently any improvments you suggest and also, do you play frontline?

[@serwalkerofthekeynes8761]

They used these when I was in the cadets (basically watered down,army training for under 18's). it was the sight that put me off. The blanks we were firing acted like real rounds (naturally).. but the weapon felt very "janky", almost as if it had a loose plate of metal that shuddered on trigger pull. Maybe it was that which put me off following into the actual army.. at that time it would've been the middle East, where the US were rocking M4's or variants of it, and the insurgents were using everything from AK's to barely refurbished odds and ends, from wherever they could scramble the parts. This gun is not what I'd want to be using.

[@hansvogert748]

Can you talk about the M24 in the next episode?

[@LegeFles]

Well he is doing marksman next, most likely the new guns are first though.

[@SickSnipes]

Yeah M24's my favorite sniper in the game it's happening don't worry

[@RusskiBlusski]

the "Koch" in Heckler & Koch is actually pronounced "Coke". It's on their website under FAQ :)

[@pinejungleboogie3563]

It’d be if the gunner got some gunner barrel kits that have longer barrels and built in bipods for the AKM, M4, FAL, G36 and AUG too

[@heresytoburn3358]

"and let the germans make the guns" this guy clearly has no idea. yes they went to H&K to upgrade it but it was owned by the british at the time which makes it a british company. and thats the A2 not the A1. if you didnt notice the A1 was the shitty little thing that never wanted to work. the A2 was the actually functioning weapon, which is the gun you are reviewing.

[@danielmarsden4573]

Just saying but HK was British owned at the time of the redesign.

[@bingus1256]

Fun fact; the unicorn on the UK seal represents Scotland where the lion represents England. Yes, our national animal is the Unicorn, google it. 🦄

[@garethjohnstone9282]

L85A2 was fine. I vouch.

[@jester8832]

I hate this rifle irl but man is it great in every game I pick it up in. I can’t think of a bad version in any game. Usually they’re good or great and at worst mediocre

[@SuicidalChocolateSK]

You're the only small tuber i actually watch because your content is so good 😭

[@rommelthedesertfox3089]

The L85A2 is amazing I always murder with it

[@gkvscq]

the gun i never use unless dared

[@snickers8998]

Comically British gun

[@Jackdiddly1]

I play this game everyday, and I diddnt know you can scavenge mags

[@DasMonke]

I’ve held one of these and it is quite uncomfortable. The handguard traps your fingers and the sling system gets tangled easily. It isn’t bad but Ar15s are far superior.

[@845SiM]

A1 was lethal, to the user mostly, stoppages, made out of biscuit tins, the bug spray melted “everything” not just the plastic😂. Never had a major issue using the A2, after H&K fixed it. melted a few firing pins, but that was my bad. Was later a LSW gunner, that rifle was very under rated, hitting accurately (ish) way down range.

[@mrward6510]

A2 and A3 is pretty good.

[@김명환-d9m]

Make ready(ready) present(aim) fire(fire)

[@ShanksNLMB]

lol ask the talibans how good the L85A2 was

[@OrionAegis]

Went to an open-day fire range event a few years back. They had a bunch of guns and if you had any credentials of any kind(from a hunting license to proof of owning a rifle) you could shoot their rifles. There were like 10 Ak platforms, couple m4's, Ar-15's, M16 yada yada the typical stuff. But there was one A2 available to shoot that NO ONE had touched the entire day. Not gonna lie, I picked this bad boy up and was very surprised by how it felt at both a resting and a firing position. It was comfortable and it felt like my shoulder had a lock on the entire rear section of the platform. It fired beautifully and ever since then I have always wanted one, or at least one to modify to my liking.

[@Axl4325]

2:11 *STALKER would like to have a chat with you*

[@jblazerndrowzy]

He did say *almost* never

[@thatsnodildo1974]

28 days later made me fall in love with this gun. I know it's shit but I always wanted one just cause

[@riotingpyro5118]

The A1 is shit. But the A2 is amazing.

[@Dawsonrory12]

The l85a2 is incredibly good but the a1 was the problem child, please could someone get this right

[@malachiw392]

my go-to rifle and I love the SUSAT Scope however, can never see SHIT through the 1x scope on top, huge no-no for me so I usually just do 2x Holographic

[@LegeFles]

Good shit

[@NonDucorDuco-]

Very gamer moment

[@Oliver.Ghilardi]

Nice video ❤️

[@PolarBearSeal]

Ok, where the heck is the G36?

[@frosty5948]

I was surprised

[@ahmetemresevgi2154]

Can you make a g3 gun guide ?

[@wilkham2678]

The L85A2 is really good in BF4 and not a bad choice in MW either ! By the way, what are these damage stats graph ? I want it.

[@hyxxy2296]

well... atleast it isn't the A1

[@humblenoob7631]

the magazine is goofy ahh

[@1Bugatti_Wolf]

Can you get this on the xbox I dont see it in the lists. Did they remove it?

[@Impulset0]

Love the gun in the game. In real life... Not so much. Impossible to shoot lefty and it's over 10 pounds with the SUSAT sight.

[@bravo6959]

Do the M82

[@holepunch1829]

g3 when

[@joshthemigpro1733]

Only l85a1 was bad

[@benmaciver4190]

I love this channel but you are reviewing the A2, the A1 was bad, lessons were learned and now it doesn't try to be an M4, it competes with it. You wouldn't say the m16a2 is unreliable just because the A1 was. Man reddit opinions and armchair experts are harming this world ha

[@Tavis15ify]

Serious question How the hell do you have your character model actually there, mine has been broken so long and am kinds frustrated with it since I got the DLCS yet cant change outfits to save my life. Want this bug fixed so bad its so extremely annoying, also the invisible character models in game are also horrible.

[@freshfrozen3035]

All hail the sa80

[@LincolnTeale-bp3vl]

I have just started the game how do i unlock it

[@MrCjnine]

Ey u wanna try me wiv ma kl gun guv??

[@basty1man]

Throw it away and get basically any other rifle

[@goldvoltz4866]

Americans have a good service rifle??? Any rifle chambered in .556 imo is not a good service rifle. I’ve trained with pretty much all the small arms used by the United States, and I would take 7.62 over .556 any day any situation hands down

[@parkerhaynes4913]

7.62x39 or 7.62x51? there is a pretty big difference

[@saberman3525]

bi'ish rifel be the best says the queen.

[@김명환-d9m]

L86

[@evankingETA]

Wrong its actually the most accurate

[@ember5935]

Can ai check’ut yur bri’ish?

[@Youngstonex]

MG3 review lulz

[@김명환-d9m]

Fire by rank

[@김명환-d9m]

Rpk

[@rainerzufall7639]

monke

[@riotingpyro5118]

The A1 is an unreliable, clunky and utterly useless piece of shit that I absolutely despise. The A2 is an amazing upgrade, it’s got more range than the M4 and has better reliability. Not sure on the A3 though.

[@GaryHamad]

Good Digitally Bad Realistically

[@fin4204]

People who say that about the A2 have no experience with the firearm.

[@GaryHamad]

@@fin4204 wasn't that made by H&K?

[@nicktaco117]

The L85A1 version yes, the L85A2 version no

[@carwyngriffiths]

@@GaryHamad was owned by the brits at the time**