Labour’s Red Wall: the places that will decide the election | Anywhere but Westminster

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John Harris and John Domokos continue their election road trip through crucial seats that have traditionally been loyal to Labour, but where a majority voted leave and the Tories are now encroaching.
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What they find defies the usual political cliches: people desperately want change, but there’s a deepening mistrust of national politics, whether red or blue
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@lizhang9898
@lizhang9898 5 жыл бұрын
it blows my mind that a working young man doesn't know what a trade union is.
@lizhang9898
@lizhang9898 5 жыл бұрын
@YoshiPeach Mario exactly
@jimharris6389
@jimharris6389 5 жыл бұрын
It makes me want to cry
@jimharris6389
@jimharris6389 5 жыл бұрын
​@Wili Wds ok boomer
@jimharris6389
@jimharris6389 5 жыл бұрын
@Floopy Doopey ok boomer
@deebest4202
@deebest4202 5 жыл бұрын
What's worse still he's a duty manager, you can't even go to him if you've got a problem with your work contract. Well you pay people peanuts...
@elingles2854
@elingles2854 5 жыл бұрын
"We didn't leave the Labour Party, the Labour Party left us.
@jamestodd1104
@jamestodd1104 5 жыл бұрын
Those who are ‘undecided’ are all voting Tory.
@danielbateman6518
@danielbateman6518 5 жыл бұрын
@@moneylaunderer6313 literally proving his point by just tossing an insult at him rather than saying something constructive.
@Desertmouth
@Desertmouth 5 жыл бұрын
@pinkie perky okay boomer gammon
@danielbateman6518
@danielbateman6518 5 жыл бұрын
@@moneylaunderer6313 it's also interesting you go for an insult based on skin colour
@jackbeswick4662
@jackbeswick4662 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielbateman6518 ok boomer
@danielbateman6518
@danielbateman6518 5 жыл бұрын
@@jackbeswick4662 also doesn't mean a great deal to me since I'm 21
@peterhiggins2928
@peterhiggins2928 5 жыл бұрын
It seems the Tories have won by making people not care.
@TheNotSoFakeNews
@TheNotSoFakeNews 5 жыл бұрын
Or labour has lost by failing to make people care.
@Badhat66
@Badhat66 5 жыл бұрын
We do care we Don't want Corbyn
@jasondevon481
@jasondevon481 5 жыл бұрын
No. Labour will lose and it is their own fault for abandoning their voters outside of London. Don't take my word for it, watch the election!
@ultimateblaze23
@ultimateblaze23 5 жыл бұрын
@@jasondevon481 Sorry, are labour's policies specific to London? I must have missed that part.
@forza223bowe5
@forza223bowe5 5 жыл бұрын
Labour will not win elections, they are too far left
@Fluxquark
@Fluxquark 5 жыл бұрын
Works in social care, knows that the Tories have cut funding massively, still won't vote Labour. FFS what is going on in that man's brain?
@مرحبابك-ض1ن
@مرحبابك-ض1ن 5 жыл бұрын
Arrogance. Sheer Arrogance. I've seen a few people like this, particularly in the West Midlands. I really don't understand it as Brummies & people from around those ends are some of the nicest people you'll meet. But occasionally you see this odd stupidity & arrogance come through on issues like this and I don't really get it either.
@tomasburns6128
@tomasburns6128 5 жыл бұрын
مرحبا بك and my boi Corbyn is a scumbag
@مرحبابك-ض1ن
@مرحبابك-ض1ن 5 жыл бұрын
@@tomasburns6128 انتوا تاخدوا بالجزمة عاملين زي السيساوية
@spacered949
@spacered949 5 жыл бұрын
He isn’t making his vote based on one issue despite it being close to his heart
@stevenamoah9849
@stevenamoah9849 5 жыл бұрын
Cuz the media says its not the right thing to do... Who owns the media....
@ch3nz3n
@ch3nz3n 5 жыл бұрын
So how did that "Red Wall" work out for ya? 12/13/19
@sensibledriver933
@sensibledriver933 5 жыл бұрын
Like a foot high picket fence.
@InsideOutInkDemon
@InsideOutInkDemon 5 жыл бұрын
don't know what you've got til it's gone
@jean-maxmansfeld8058
@jean-maxmansfeld8058 5 жыл бұрын
As depressing as I always find these videos to be, they are great pieces of journalism and give interesting insights. Kudos guardian
5 жыл бұрын
:D
@adscri
@adscri 5 жыл бұрын
Jean-Max Mansfeld Found this one to be back on track, thankfully.
@connorcook6171
@connorcook6171 5 жыл бұрын
Well, what can you expect from leftist journalism...its *always* alarmist doom and gloom. People are sick to the teeth of it, hence why Corbyn is polling so low!
@connorcook6171
@connorcook6171 5 жыл бұрын
@ Their whole agenda is cognitive dissonance, LOL. How anyone can take these people seriously enough to vote for, is beyond any intelligent person.
@sevenscounty409
@sevenscounty409 5 жыл бұрын
Fills me with disappear that the labour party machinery is not actually doing this glorious work to gain an insight on what is ailing the labour party
@johnnyfuckeyes4068
@johnnyfuckeyes4068 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's not the working class ,maybe it's labour who's changed
@RealLimerickman
@RealLimerickman 5 жыл бұрын
Ssshhhh. You make the bullies in the Labour party leadership cry. They will need to find their safe space..crayons and fluffy teddy bears...to get away from facts that you provides.
@coolbreez773
@coolbreez773 5 жыл бұрын
"We can always get one half of the poor to turn against the other half"...
@redghost6386
@redghost6386 5 жыл бұрын
You have to bring another group that have different values into the country first.
@ChrisRedfield--
@ChrisRedfield-- 5 жыл бұрын
Proven concept, read: Italian diplomat Niccolò Machiavelli is best known for writing The Prince, a handbook for unscrupulous politicians that inspired the term "Machiavellian" and established its author as the "father of modern political theory."
@ChrisRedfield--
@ChrisRedfield-- 5 жыл бұрын
@@redghost6386 are you stupid?
@owenthompson5214
@owenthompson5214 3 жыл бұрын
The working class and the under class are completely different
@AndrewSmith-sh8xe
@AndrewSmith-sh8xe 5 жыл бұрын
That woman from Grimsby was spot on. "It's about pride, people need to be involved". That is the message Labour need to hear. It's great to invest in public services, but that investment needs to empower local communities, not centralised state bureaucracies.
@zeberdee1972
@zeberdee1972 5 жыл бұрын
Yes finally some sense , you have looked at why the Public have gone the way with the vote . Instead like most on this comment section that just label the General Public " stupid " etc .
@WarMomPT
@WarMomPT 5 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence, that's actually what they're offering; for a lot of it like public transport, the funds aren't a nationalised singular entity, it goes to individual councils to do with as they will.
@mcooley88
@mcooley88 3 жыл бұрын
@@zeberdee1972 I'd label anyone that willfully votes in the architects of their own misery for another 5 years as a bit dull on the old braincells to be honest.
@Molfish
@Molfish 5 жыл бұрын
These people haven’t left labour - the Labour Party has left the people
@HS-nf7tf
@HS-nf7tf 5 жыл бұрын
The film is filled with people complaining about the lack of investment and austerity but won't vote for a party that is specifically campaigning on reversing those Tory policies of austerity and lack of investment. Has the North been completely gaslighted? I ask that sincerely.
@TheCasualObservers
@TheCasualObservers 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@joecramp2987
@joecramp2987 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it seems most of the country has been gaslighted
@connorcook6171
@connorcook6171 5 жыл бұрын
No, they just hate the labour party, because you're the party of immigrants and LGBT, not of the many English folk.
@jangomoonstomp
@jangomoonstomp 5 жыл бұрын
@@connorcook6171 and you're a bigot, proud of yourself?
@connorcook6171
@connorcook6171 5 жыл бұрын
@@jangomoonstomp Whatever you say. Nobody takes you leftists seriously, anymore. You've had your time and failed!
@rebekahfowler2958
@rebekahfowler2958 5 жыл бұрын
I find this so disappointing. I have no hope for this country
@jimgoodwin6294
@jimgoodwin6294 5 жыл бұрын
Naaaa, we're a great country capable of anything - just because Labour says everything is rubbish doesn't make it true...
@goodyeoman4534
@goodyeoman4534 5 жыл бұрын
The country will crawl on, but the nation fought for in the Second World War is long-gone. State debt, private debt, mass immigration, dumbed-down society and break up of private family life has seen to that.
@chokinonashes61
@chokinonashes61 5 жыл бұрын
@pinkie perky You are a Tory.
@petebondurant58
@petebondurant58 5 жыл бұрын
You should move to France.
@rebekahfowler2958
@rebekahfowler2958 5 жыл бұрын
Hans Hummer what an offer what a man. How noble of you. Think I'll pass. You definitely wouldn't be up to the task of cheering me up. Don't need more tossers in my life.
@DahliaRich
@DahliaRich 5 жыл бұрын
Austerity has crushed spirits to the point where people have given up on trying to oppose the Tory government - the unfortunate thing is the opposite is what is needed now more than ever. This may have unwittingly been the Tory's greatest political machination.
@tomasburns6128
@tomasburns6128 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Judkins you’re absolutely right mate. The left never want to talk about the harms of years of unrestricted mass migration. Utterly sickening, our ppl are so easily fed the PR that every migrant is a high payed worker.. I call BS. Mr Abdul Abu Akbar next door cares far more about his next benefit payout and his forever pregnant wife over getting a job.
@nolelox
@nolelox 5 жыл бұрын
@Eiki skogr You're not wrong
@nolelox
@nolelox 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah austerity was bad but it didn't make people poorer or crush their spirit. I put it to you Brexit, the opposition parties and the amount of time crushed spirit. Corbyn could have voted for Brexit but instead, kept it on the table much to the cost of those he champions. Now he's mugging off Labour leave voters with *Remain OR REMAIN*
@maxpowerii7368
@maxpowerii7368 5 жыл бұрын
Nope not austerity or anything to do with the Tories. It is Labour and their betrayal of the leave voting heartlands with their Brexit neutral policy and appeasement of remainers in the party. Plus support for mass immigration and post-modern identity politics does not help their case. Most people I know living in the heartlands wouldn’t dream of voting Labour again given how the party has turned out. Brexit Party looks to do very well out of it.
@daveruda
@daveruda 5 жыл бұрын
So your defense of the rightwing assault on the public boils down to racism. You just hate foreginers...
@Gilly9784
@Gilly9784 5 жыл бұрын
It's great reading these comments after the election 😂
@olliefolayan3246
@olliefolayan3246 5 жыл бұрын
The thing you said about noise at the end is really the problem for Labour. These people all articulate a need for the kind of change that Labour is offering but they either have the airwaves filled with negatives noise and therefore cant hear Labour's voice and even when they do they have been preconditioned by the media narrative to disbelieve it. Very depressing.
@britopia1341
@britopia1341 5 жыл бұрын
Noise? It’s got nothing to do with noise. The Labour Party are they’re own worst enemy. If their policy was to halt mass immigration for the next 5 years they would win. But they’ll never do it.
@stubru16
@stubru16 5 жыл бұрын
Ollie Folayan I don’t know where you live but it’s not been easy up north, you have to remember London and south east stoke so much and raped the north of its manufacturing, but the Tory’s and southerners are blaming the EU and I’m afraid people up here still believe a countrymen because Boris isn’t foreign
@sevenscounty409
@sevenscounty409 5 жыл бұрын
How about the Rightwing tabloids writing in baby language targeting these white working class people?
@CharalamposKoundourakis
@CharalamposKoundourakis 5 жыл бұрын
@@sevenscounty409 That's the noise.
@CharalamposKoundourakis
@CharalamposKoundourakis 5 жыл бұрын
@ Hardly.
@CharalamposKoundourakis
@CharalamposKoundourakis 5 жыл бұрын
It's terrifying to see how many people just get their information from tabloids.
@391jamie
@391jamie 5 жыл бұрын
What's your point? That you're better than these people because you read the Guardian? That's exactly the kind of snobby attitude that's turned so many ordinary working class people off the modern Labour party.
5 жыл бұрын
oh yes, those awful plebs!
@CharalamposKoundourakis
@CharalamposKoundourakis 5 жыл бұрын
@ Again, your words, not mine.
@knockitoffhudson
@knockitoffhudson 5 жыл бұрын
My dad reads the sun, it's nowhere near as degenerate as the guardian.
@roloemery123
@roloemery123 5 жыл бұрын
Even worse when people get their info primarily off Facebook
@michellepotter4833
@michellepotter4833 5 жыл бұрын
John Harris, unlike certain other Guardian journalists, actually gets outside London and speaks to constituents, rather than just making assumptions and being condescending.
@michaeladgo
@michaeladgo 5 жыл бұрын
The Tragic thing is the right wing press
@benusmaximus3601
@benusmaximus3601 5 жыл бұрын
The right wing press are there to counterbalance left wing academia - it all balances out and creates a level playing field...
@michaelheeheejackson7255
@michaelheeheejackson7255 5 жыл бұрын
@ Right. So "crushing the saboteurs" is just right of Mao
@funbarsolaris2822
@funbarsolaris2822 5 жыл бұрын
@pinkie perky Voting Lib Dem is a sure fire way to get a hard brexit in most seats. They have already got in serious trouble for suggesting tactical voting in areas where the Tories have 25,679 votes Labour have 25,326 and the Lib Dems have.... 3,012. What use is tactically voting Lib Dem there?? VOTE LABOUR FOR A 2ND REFERENDUM AND AN END TO THE TORY NIGHTMARE
@jimgoodwin6294
@jimgoodwin6294 5 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid democracy must prevail - no if nor buts.....
@michaeladgo
@michaeladgo 5 жыл бұрын
Jim Goodwin a democracy is not a democracy if it’s built on lies
@TheSpoovy
@TheSpoovy 5 жыл бұрын
8:12 You say the Labour vote has softened because the "culture of the place has changed". This is very telling. Not only are you wrong, but the guy you'd just spoken to had told you that. He said it was because of Labour's policy changes that he was no longer a Labour voter. But you chose to ignore that and put your preferred spin on it. Labour abandoned the working classes, not the other way around, and it's amazing to me that people still can't see that. Blaming the Tories for everything is pathetic. Learn from the blue Labour movement or the party is dead.
@michaelmorrison8714
@michaelmorrison8714 5 жыл бұрын
exactly blue labour is traditional labour. the party was highjacked by hipsters.
@stevevassallo4323
@stevevassallo4323 5 жыл бұрын
With a few exceptions, I see only ignorance, apathy and obesity. Which, if you think about it, is exactly where the people in power want you to be.
@stevevassallo4323
@stevevassallo4323 5 жыл бұрын
@RJ rs iekekd The video was great but the prospects are grim.
@stevevassallo4323
@stevevassallo4323 5 жыл бұрын
@intempify ???
@stevevassallo4323
@stevevassallo4323 5 жыл бұрын
@Joe Box Yeah, there’s the ignorance part right there. Well done.
@391jamie
@391jamie 5 жыл бұрын
Is it any wonder so many working class people have turned their backs on Labour when they get vilified as thick, bigoted, ignorant plebs by the very same metropolitan trendies who claim to speak on their behalf?
@vinceiswatchingyou
@vinceiswatchingyou 5 жыл бұрын
The neoliberal plan was a success
@BarryWaterlow
@BarryWaterlow 5 жыл бұрын
*The apathy and levels of ignorance are frightening. It's like watching STARK ADDER*
@DFandV
@DFandV 5 жыл бұрын
Not wanting to sound rude but it has got to do with education or no care of politics or their environment really.
@leetshots
@leetshots 5 жыл бұрын
Haha it's like you are out of touch with the working class. Awesome.
@MyName-cw4yr
@MyName-cw4yr 5 жыл бұрын
@Cowardly Custard sure thing my russian bot person.
@MyName-cw4yr
@MyName-cw4yr 5 жыл бұрын
@Cowardly Custard Путин говорит привет ;)
@MyName-cw4yr
@MyName-cw4yr 5 жыл бұрын
@Cowardly Custard awww aren't you sweet.
@crustyoldfart
@crustyoldfart 5 жыл бұрын
A North-American Indian once told me a simple fact : " You can't make money where there is no money ". And that's the great truism of The North. In former times the country's wealth was created in the North by a variety of industries, and the profits were spent in the South-East, Home Counties bubble. Now the industries have gone, but the people have not. The people of the Southern bubble can now live on the proceeds of the manipulation of credit, the North is left with little and nobody seems to care. " England, whose won't it was to conquer others hath made a shameless conquest of itself ". On a more optimistic note perhaps we can reflect that historically the British Isles have always been a turmoil of warring tribes. Nowadays you don't dress up and put on warpaint, but the basic conflicts apparently are still there. Maybe you'd all be best advised to move on to greener pastures.
@crustyoldfart
@crustyoldfart 5 жыл бұрын
@John Buffalo I am 97 I'm not sure what you are disagreeing with. Was it the advice to seek greener pastures ? That's what I did over fifty years ago when I moved to Canada. In North America engineers such as myself are respected as professionals; so are technologists, medical practitioners, nurses and so on..... and are considerably better paid - unlike in the UK where we are not respected to anything like the same degree. I hardly think your disagreement can be about my description of the differences between North and South, since your remarks confirm what I was saying in every respect. I'm happy for you in that you consider yourself " upper middle class ". I'm no longer sure that I understand what that means anymore, although the concept was current back in the mid XX century as I recall. Does your self-styled status derive from your former profession I wonder, or is it based on the amount of disposable income you had at one time and might continue to enjoy. In general my remarks were coloured by a knowledge of the history and economics of my native Cumberland as it then was. Much of the local means of production was in the hands of the local Earl. The most famous one - was known as the " Yellow Earl ", for his fondness for riding about in a yellow horse-drawn landau. Not that we saw a lot of him, since he spent the money we " blue collars ", as you would have it, accumulated for him, toiling on the land or sweating and sometimes dying in the mines, on his sporting life mostly in the Home Counties. It was always rumoured that he was popular with Edward VIII, due to his success in acting as a procurer for the King.
@crustyoldfart
@crustyoldfart 5 жыл бұрын
That should have read Edward VII of course: Edward VIiI was generally successful acting on his own initiative.
@thefinalwhistle1623
@thefinalwhistle1623 5 жыл бұрын
@John Buffalo I am 97 a teacher who thinks he 'gave' the north jobs.
@paultaylor2964
@paultaylor2964 5 жыл бұрын
I have been abroad for 39 years now. The picture I see of the land I grew up in is alarming. What on earth lies ahead. How will this end up. Brexit or otherwise. Poverty and despair are wide spread.
@maxcuthbert100
@maxcuthbert100 5 жыл бұрын
I've been gone since '88.Came back for six years in '99, then left again when it seemed the writing was really on the wall('05). I coulddn't have imagined the current shitshow in display here though.Horrifying.
@AH-iu1cw
@AH-iu1cw 5 жыл бұрын
We left in 2018 and won't go back, I keep watching and reading though, it's like a slow car crash. Anyone with a brain and aspirations needs to.get out of there
@celticwarrior3354
@celticwarrior3354 5 жыл бұрын
@@AH-iu1cw no we will stand and fight to put it right , and out of curiosity what country did you move to?
@celticwarrior3354
@celticwarrior3354 5 жыл бұрын
@@maxcuthbert100 where are you now ?
@jimgoodwin6294
@jimgoodwin6294 5 жыл бұрын
I remember the 60's where there were a lot of families with kids (they always seem to have lots of kids) walked round in rags. That was poverty....... Its no where near as bad now...... Another labour lie....
@TG-kc9ue
@TG-kc9ue 5 жыл бұрын
This is utterly heartbreaking
@maxcuthbert100
@maxcuthbert100 5 жыл бұрын
Yes,because we all know it's a bit too close to the bone.
@morp904
@morp904 5 жыл бұрын
Labour needs a new leader. thats all
@TG-kc9ue
@TG-kc9ue 5 жыл бұрын
@shaun king ?
@goodyeoman4534
@goodyeoman4534 5 жыл бұрын
What is? That Labour are finished or that Britain is so dumbed-down it thinks 'Boris' Johnson is a worthy leader?
@libertyprime69
@libertyprime69 5 жыл бұрын
@@morp904 True
@DidntKnowWhatToPut1
@DidntKnowWhatToPut1 5 жыл бұрын
People want things to get better but won't vote for it. Imagine the country we could have if everyone who feels strongly about something actully put those beliefs into a vote
@End-Result
@End-Result 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more It’s saddening but it’s also makes me extremely mad with these people
@littletraveller5428
@littletraveller5428 5 жыл бұрын
No one has faith in real change. It only takes catastrophe to incite real change.
@webz3589
@webz3589 5 жыл бұрын
Well we did with brexit and the remoaners in the political parties and the press have tried their hardest to stop that vote.
@thethirdman2135
@thethirdman2135 5 жыл бұрын
Corbyn will help no one by bankrupting the country
@DidntKnowWhatToPut1
@DidntKnowWhatToPut1 5 жыл бұрын
@@thethirdman2135 What exactly in the Labour manifesto is going to bankrupt the UK?
@whorhythmic
@whorhythmic 5 жыл бұрын
this series never disappoints, so insightful
@usman7207
@usman7207 5 жыл бұрын
@mohsinrao4334
@mohsinrao4334 5 жыл бұрын
So a social worker appalled at Tory inflicted austerity doesnt know who to vote for. FFS. The UK deserves what is coming to it.
@jangomoonstomp
@jangomoonstomp 5 жыл бұрын
@ social workers do, also poliicians, the police, the judiciary, basically anyone with a brain 🙄
@funbarsolaris2822
@funbarsolaris2822 5 жыл бұрын
@pinkie perky Voting Lib Dem will grant a Tory majority in most seats. The only message you'l be sending is a hard brexit and 5 more years of austerity
@Iamtilersscreeminganger
@Iamtilersscreeminganger 5 жыл бұрын
Tory inflicted austerity, brought to you by the Labour Party spending all the money and selling all the precious metals reserves.
@jimgoodwin6294
@jimgoodwin6294 5 жыл бұрын
@@jangomoonstomp The Police have brains......? Who knew.....
@jangomoonstomp
@jangomoonstomp 5 жыл бұрын
@@jimgoodwin6294 some do, some don't, like the populace at large 🤔
@eoghan.5003
@eoghan.5003 5 жыл бұрын
This is the overwhelming success of the neoliberal project. Those who are in the most dire need of trade unions, the Labour party and so on have been conditioned to stand by hopelessly as their communities are destroyed.
@lx1714
@lx1714 5 жыл бұрын
neoliberal project, aka the EU?
@eoghan.5003
@eoghan.5003 5 жыл бұрын
@@lx1714 I was not referring specifically to the EU - neoliberalism in the UK was brought in by Thatcher, not the EU - though the institutions of the EU have been pursuing a neoliberal project.
@lx1714
@lx1714 5 жыл бұрын
@@eoghan.5003 Fair enough. I consider it a two way street though. The European Union is somehow viewed by many as left wing. It is as neoliberal as they come haha Benn saw it!
@uktravel8341
@uktravel8341 3 жыл бұрын
"to stand by hopelessly as their communities are destroyed." Actually they are all free to join the Labour Party, Greens, trade unions etc who will do something to help their communities. But the vast majority don't bother. A large minority (or in some cases a majority) don't even bother to vote. They have no-one to blame but themselves.
@michaelmorrison8714
@michaelmorrison8714 5 жыл бұрын
So labour abandons the working class by promoting mass migration (which 75% of the UK are against) then they wonder why they can't get working class votes. wow not a lot of self awareness. Look no further then how blue labour and Paul Embery were treated as symbolic on why you lost your working class heartland. You made your bed............................personally I won't shed a tear for you.
@thefinalwhistle1623
@thefinalwhistle1623 5 жыл бұрын
the Tories have had control of migration for most of the period it occurred
@michaelmorrison8714
@michaelmorrison8714 5 жыл бұрын
While labour hipsters in london shout from every rooftop how wonderful mass migration is. At least anybody supporting brexit is (at least in theory) saying its a problem, not something wonderful. But I agree, in all likelyhood big business is poised to make sure mass migration continues under Boris. i thought voting brexit was the ideal.
@kingofracism
@kingofracism 4 жыл бұрын
@@thefinalwhistle1623 true, Tories are in it for the money from huge building companies. Labour are in it for a whole other reason
@thomasb8525
@thomasb8525 5 жыл бұрын
I found this quite moving. There's something heartbreaking about people at humanity's best feeling apathetic and disillusioned. Every time a politician has ever or ever does tell a lie, it is these people's trust they hurt.
@kimwarburton8490
@kimwarburton8490 5 жыл бұрын
@ tory brexit just makes us more vulnerable. Read pg 48 of manifesto Yeah they want to take back control FROM US
@jimgoodwin6294
@jimgoodwin6294 5 жыл бұрын
@@kimwarburton8490 So the EU taking our armed forces in a couple of years makes us safer then?
@kimwarburton8490
@kimwarburton8490 5 жыл бұрын
@@jimgoodwin6294 1 thatll only happen if uk agrees to go closer to eu than we already are (not guna happen too much leave sentiment) 2 its no different to nato, except wont have usa/trump acting all gangsta for protection money. 3 bojo just gave away half our forces so yeah theres that xD
@jimgoodwin6294
@jimgoodwin6294 5 жыл бұрын
@@kimwarburton8490 Sorry, that made no sense......
@kimwarburton8490
@kimwarburton8490 5 жыл бұрын
@@jimgoodwin6294 i guess u didnt follow the nato summit
@resisthouse
@resisthouse 5 жыл бұрын
These shorts are brilliant, but depressing AF
5 жыл бұрын
don't worry, its mainly nonsense
@amanred9337
@amanred9337 5 жыл бұрын
It's actually less depressing than I would have thought. There were still quite a few people here saying they were going to vote Labour as well as people who were confused. But the swing to the Tories and is not actually that visible here which is comforting.
@water9baby972
@water9baby972 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao right
@petebondurant58
@petebondurant58 5 жыл бұрын
@@amanred9337 This comment hasn't held up well.
@amanred9337
@amanred9337 5 жыл бұрын
@@petebondurant58 True. What can In say? I thought the Tories could win but I really did not see THIS coming. I understand the leave vote essentially.
@landlord5552
@landlord5552 5 жыл бұрын
Brexit or not, UK seems doomed anyway.
@Chris-ln6so
@Chris-ln6so 5 жыл бұрын
I love how the didn’t find all that many Tory votes (or at least lots of undecideds), yet 14 million votes later...
@ddraigairhead4187
@ddraigairhead4187 3 жыл бұрын
The majority of people voting conservative won’t admit publicly
@whynot217
@whynot217 3 жыл бұрын
At points he said he was looking for Labour voters because he couldn’t find any. He said he couldn’t find anyone in a square who voted Labour. I don’t think you were listening to the video.
@JW-if3hk
@JW-if3hk 5 жыл бұрын
What red wall? Certainly can't see one on the 2019 map
@libertyprime69
@libertyprime69 5 жыл бұрын
ikr?
@maltesephil
@maltesephil 5 жыл бұрын
6:07 cashmere coat and fur hat, way to represent the people of Wolverhampton their luv
@lisabennett3357
@lisabennett3357 5 жыл бұрын
a smell of petroleum pervades throughout its not about what your wear and where you come from it’s about what you stand for and who your serve
@Fattimithy
@Fattimithy 5 жыл бұрын
I thought exactly the same thing. What a way to identify with your electorate!
@mattmatthews8993
@mattmatthews8993 5 жыл бұрын
I wish you had asked the guy at 1:53 why he wasn’t voting Labour, did he not realise that Labour are backing a second referendum
@mattmatthews8993
@mattmatthews8993 5 жыл бұрын
Floopy Doopey no, he said that Labour don’t oppose the government, a phrase usually used by remainers
@AlexanderKojen
@AlexanderKojen 5 жыл бұрын
@Floopy Doopey Your democracy is a representative democracy.
@phobiandarkmoon
@phobiandarkmoon 5 жыл бұрын
Labour's position on Brexit, especially as relates to Corbyn, has been very muddled up to this point.
@clarkeysam
@clarkeysam 5 жыл бұрын
@Floopy Doopey if he supports democracy then he should be pro second referendum. 16m voted to remain, only a couple of hundred have voted for May's deal (rebranded as Johnson's deal).
@clarkeysam
@clarkeysam 5 жыл бұрын
@Floopy Doopey the result wasn't ignored, art 50 was triggered! The only people who think it was ignored are those stupid enough to think we could have left quickly. So just to be clear, you're pro democracy but anti letting the public decide?
@peter9162
@peter9162 5 жыл бұрын
My grandad, who has voted Labour his entire life, used to complain about Blair. He said he was "more Tory than the Tories." I grew up thinking that Labour's weakening position stemmed from a lack of real opposition to what the Tories stand for. Now with Corbyn there is a prime ministerial candidate who actually represents something drastically different to New Labour under Blair. Yet everyone is flocking back to the centre right of politics. Why?
@person.X.
@person.X. 5 жыл бұрын
I have great respect for the pair of you going out and actually trying to make the effort to speak to people and be broadminded. You seem to think about what you have seen and heard rather than just get stuck in some self justifying ideological rut.
@ronpeel1878
@ronpeel1878 5 жыл бұрын
Lets cut to the chase. BREXIT and the unwillingness to honour the referedum was a major factor. You can't spin a line that 'the people didn' t vote to be poorer' that they had ' changed their minds', that there was 'voter's regret'. If you say these kind of thing, you know you are spinning a line. Just because people speak with broad Black Country and Staffordshire accents, doesn't mean that they are thick. LABOUR MEMBERs of parliament and the labout party deserve what they got.
@Philiptanzer
@Philiptanzer 5 жыл бұрын
That woman running the fashion show was brilliant, she is totally right. It is about pride and having the freedom to do these things for your own community, a very conservative position. We should endeavour to reduce central government and let the local communities steer their way. You could see the benefit working on that project to bring life to her community had, she appeared to be the happiest person in this video. We need to empower women like her and not just demand central government take control, because that breaks community relations and strips the local people of pride. A bit of pride in ourselves and our country will get us through, but you won't find that with Labour.
@yoniwolf92
@yoniwolf92 5 жыл бұрын
One of the many issues that ive observed is young people are so overworked and underpaid, and under organised that they don't engage with complex information on policies etc and they end up having no rights or ability to know how to improve their circumstances. Add the Murdoch press and Facebook to that terrible predicament and here we are.
@sastrugi4471
@sastrugi4471 5 жыл бұрын
And Labour hasn't remotely broken through in the new age. That's part of it.
@yoniwolf92
@yoniwolf92 5 жыл бұрын
@@sastrugi4471 yep, very true they're not connecting with a really obvious base of young struggling people (and all struggling people)
@yoniwolf92
@yoniwolf92 5 жыл бұрын
@ not relatively speaking historically, relatively speaking compared to current house prices/living expenses
@Plumduff3303
@Plumduff3303 5 жыл бұрын
I rate this as absolutely top notch journalism
@chrisconway8406
@chrisconway8406 5 жыл бұрын
Just voted Conservative for the first time in my life i will never back Corbyn cant stand the guy.
@Badhat66
@Badhat66 5 жыл бұрын
Does that labour MP not think how ironic that 1 the two young bloke had no clue who she was, and two the comment she made about politicians making false claims about promising this and that , all Corbyn and he's Labour Party have done is offer free stuff nothing's free , why can't she have some honesty and say to those two blokes I am not interested in you , I am just hoping to keep my job F Labour why Corbyn and he's cronies are leading the party
@battles423
@battles423 2 жыл бұрын
IT’s November 2022. The British People are suffering with the worst economic crisis since WW2. Welcome to Brexit
@djphineart
@djphineart 5 жыл бұрын
People in ‘left-behind towns’ voted labour for years and years. My home town (Hull) has been left behind time and time again - even when we had the second in command of a labour government representing us - they did nothing at all for the city except a city of culture party for the guardianistas . Labour always say they will do XYZ and deliver jack...all
@celticwarrior3354
@celticwarrior3354 5 жыл бұрын
I'm from hull mate 👍 I'm backing brexit party 👌
@randymarsh3636
@randymarsh3636 5 жыл бұрын
@playlists that's your response 🤦‍♂️
@djphineart
@djphineart 5 жыл бұрын
playlists - I am getting charged already I have paid hundreds of thousands in tax. Been working since 16 and hardly taken anything from the system. Mum and dad worked too again, paid tax all their lives taken nowt out of the system except dentistry...
@henridobbs2423
@henridobbs2423 5 жыл бұрын
Ask someone why they’re voting Conservative and I bet they’ll tell you something negative about Jeremy Corbyn rather than a positive Tory Policy.
@BNJT
@BNJT 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it's the same with Brexit. Neither of the parties campaigned on the positives of EU Membership (there are many). It was project fear on both sides.
@joehynes5929
@joehynes5929 5 жыл бұрын
very true and worse still the negative will have been got from the sun. and total nonsense but then when has that ever mattered. the media really has done a number on Corbyn and it has worked.
@goodyeoman4534
@goodyeoman4534 5 жыл бұрын
That's it. People voting out of fear from what they don't want rather than positively for something they do. I am socially conservative but would not vote for Johnson in a million years. At least Corbyn is (mostly) upfront about his views. Besides his shiftiness over the EU, obviously.
@goodyeoman4534
@goodyeoman4534 5 жыл бұрын
@@BNJT Not strictly true. The Leave campaign was palpably more positive with its arguments. Reclaim fishing waters, take back sovereignty etc.Whether you agree or not with the policies, Remain was far more negative and scaremongering.
@ChicagoTurtle1
@ChicagoTurtle1 5 жыл бұрын
Shockingly sad. And people still want to let the same problems continue.
@MrRooibos123
@MrRooibos123 5 жыл бұрын
Wolverhampton is really struggling unfortunately. The people are really nice and warm, but unfortunately we have a reputation for being stupid.
@MrRooibos123
@MrRooibos123 5 жыл бұрын
@@Irishtradchannel yeah with Thornberry calling us all stupid. It's ridiculous.
@talboyovGY
@talboyovGY 5 жыл бұрын
Come back to Labour he says but Labour need to come back to being Labour because they have lost the plot
@RealLimerickman
@RealLimerickman 5 жыл бұрын
That what feminism have done to all Leftist parties.
@harrimi
@harrimi 5 жыл бұрын
Once again a brilliant insight to the real issues of the country.
@petebondurant58
@petebondurant58 5 жыл бұрын
Not really, as it turned out.
@mum2jka
@mum2jka 5 жыл бұрын
And what paper do you read? The Sun...says everything.
5 жыл бұрын
and you're comment says everything about why Labour is haemorrhaging votes
@TristanBanks
@TristanBanks 5 жыл бұрын
@ Labour isn't losing votes mate. Go back to your spoon fed lies from Mr Murdoch and Co...
@capt.lovestarii2752
@capt.lovestarii2752 5 жыл бұрын
​@ You spell haemorrhaging correctly, but get the pronoun wrong?
@skillbopster
@skillbopster 5 жыл бұрын
If the guardian is so great, how come the working class have no interest in it?
@user-mn3pb7mj9i
@user-mn3pb7mj9i 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisf1600 Irony is lost on these people. They live in an echo chamber and only talk to/listen/read things which reinforce their opinions
@blazzz13
@blazzz13 5 жыл бұрын
2:07: "What about the opposition"? "Is that what you call opposition?"' 🤣🤣🤣 Despite his voter apathy atleast he isn't going one further and voting against his own interests by voting Tory.
@jangomoonstomp
@jangomoonstomp 5 жыл бұрын
@Paul Judkins austerity has failed, yet the Tory party plough on regardless, this is economically understood to be true, However, the rich have become immensely richer because of it, so there we are, the populace have been conned, and continue to be so thanks to the billionaire owned media
@kittynakamoto2449
@kittynakamoto2449 5 жыл бұрын
Paul Judkins ‘labour would be bad for everyone’ another person parroting tabloid rumours, I guarantee you you have no understanding of economics yet here you are copying claims you have not critically thought over. If not, prove me wrong and elaborate?
@PhilMann
@PhilMann 5 жыл бұрын
Not just less noise but fewer echo chambers. This was a great film, thought provoking.
@fabianallnutt4783
@fabianallnutt4783 5 жыл бұрын
Labour messed up with Brexit, end of. Those that voted Labour and Leave feel betrayed.
@jeremiemarion3966
@jeremiemarion3966 5 жыл бұрын
Because the question wasn't about the EU it was about do you want the violence of austerity continue or not. EU was not responsible of this violence especially when you got your own currency the responsibles were New Labour and the Tories. So basically the British people answered right to the wrong question. You'll make your way like you did in the past i'm pretty sure. I'm so surprised about the UK politics though because the EU is basically your "success" no political integration, no cultural integration. Only market, market and more market.
@fabianallnutt4783
@fabianallnutt4783 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeremiemarion3966 the EU success is cheap labour and tax avoidance for multinational corporations at the expense of Europeans.
@leecolburn7849
@leecolburn7849 5 жыл бұрын
When he sat in his car and said Labour is the party of social justice... Yeah, mate. That’s what people are sick of and why people won’t vote for Labour
@zeberdee1972
@zeberdee1972 5 жыл бұрын
I love the way the view of the General Public is considered " Quick fire and superficial " , that tells you all you need to know about politics and politicians .
@Barnet310
@Barnet310 5 жыл бұрын
I feel that if UK could ever actually come back together again, it will be long after it’s completely fallen apart
@SirAmicVarze
@SirAmicVarze 5 жыл бұрын
It's pointless to get all soppy about people trying to improve things locally if they'll still vote for a party that'll continue to make things worse nationally.
@JonathanBarnes
@JonathanBarnes 5 жыл бұрын
That is why we must vote Conservative or Brexit and follow the will of the people not the morally superior ruling class- especially Sminson and Corbyn?
@infrasleep
@infrasleep 4 жыл бұрын
Pompous drivel These places have had labour councils since the year dot and numerous labour governments in between and STILL they are impoverished and the ONLY thing labour do is whinge about the poverty. At long last people are twigging that beyond self righteous pious priggery and blaming everyone bar themselves, labour have actually done sweet FA about it and never ever will do anything about it-presumably as they'd have nothing to whinge about.
@lukeclarke7167
@lukeclarke7167 5 жыл бұрын
Cutting through the BS once more, top journalism. Labour definitely needs to tap into that self empowerment stuff within communities. We can be better!
@lukeclarke7167
@lukeclarke7167 5 жыл бұрын
Neil Mo ahh yes I stand corrected
@daveruda
@daveruda 5 жыл бұрын
@pinkie perky Lib dems that gave Tories free range to impose austerity?
@MrMbisker
@MrMbisker 5 жыл бұрын
All these people who won’t vote labour will regret it for a generation
@maxcuthbert100
@maxcuthbert100 5 жыл бұрын
Longer.
@spacered949
@spacered949 5 жыл бұрын
-won’t-
@dmal4008
@dmal4008 5 жыл бұрын
The Tories are watching this and laughing, the amount of working class people who have been so easily convinced by the rich to go against their own interests is staggering.
@thethirdman2135
@thethirdman2135 5 жыл бұрын
The labour parties mass immigration masterplan for future generations of labour voters is a disaster for low skilled British working class people
@oliversmith4130
@oliversmith4130 4 жыл бұрын
The Guardian are clueless when it comes to working people
@hollyexley
@hollyexley 5 жыл бұрын
Must be hard to remain neutral when interviewing people, complaining about things that are a top priority within Labour policies.
@CharalamposKoundourakis
@CharalamposKoundourakis 5 жыл бұрын
@Joe Box How come?
@CharalamposKoundourakis
@CharalamposKoundourakis 5 жыл бұрын
@Joe Box But economists agreed that their plan had economic merit and was feasible. Its published for all to see.
@heliotropezzz333
@heliotropezzz333 5 жыл бұрын
@Joe Box Have you read the Labour Manifesto? Thought not. If you don't take the opposition seriously and vote for change you're lost because there's no hope otherwise.
@justininfrance
@justininfrance 5 жыл бұрын
@Joe Box And the big problem are fools like you who obviously believe everything they read from the Tory press.
@knockitoffhudson
@knockitoffhudson 5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure labour's top priority is nationalising everything that isn't nailed down.
@rhysrunsriot
@rhysrunsriot 5 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant video - but they always end so abruptly haha - catches me off guard every time.
@born2conform
@born2conform 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing these. Been watching for years. Really feels like my only insight into the country. I'm from a working class background in the south and now live in London which leaves me very disconnected from everything. Anywhere but Westminster is so useful. Please don't stop.
@secularspectator
@secularspectator 5 жыл бұрын
7:08 maybe that's why no one is voting for labour...ever thought about that John?
@peter9162
@peter9162 5 жыл бұрын
It seems like traditional Labour voters are left only insofar that they favour wealth redistribution and public services. When it comes to social issues they are basically closer to the Tories.
@secularspectator
@secularspectator 5 жыл бұрын
@@maximusg88 sad but true....kinda like sock account commentators 😜😂😂
@testylefty8150
@testylefty8150 5 жыл бұрын
Is this guy for real? Is it really THAT surprising that people's views can be nuanced and complex?
@AxelSituation
@AxelSituation 5 жыл бұрын
Let's just come right out and say it: " Tony Blair killed any trust in the party."
@monkeymox2544
@monkeymox2544 5 жыл бұрын
Which makes no sense, given that the party has done a U-turn. And no matter how much you dislike Blair, and how much we might condemn him for the war, its undeniable that the UK was in a better place during his premiership. Of course, he completely ballsed up the opportunity to undo the damage from previous Tory governments at a time when it would have made great financial sense to do so, i.e. he should have re-regulated the banks while we were in a boom period, and if he had the crash might not have hit us so hard. But even so, at this point literally anything sounds better than the Tories, and I don't get how people can't see that. Its like they haven't noticed the last ten years.
5 жыл бұрын
@@monkeymox2544 does tory stand for VIC..TORY?
@monkeymox2544
@monkeymox2544 5 жыл бұрын
@ Actually it derives from the Irish word for 'thief' or 'bandit'. Its been over 300 years since the term was coined, but its still appropriate.
@monkeymox2544
@monkeymox2544 5 жыл бұрын
@ Yup, 99% certain that the etymology of Tory isn't either 'winner' or 'landslide winners'. I could be wrong though, you could always look it up.
@nathanbeesley3353
@nathanbeesley3353 5 жыл бұрын
There was one striking thing about these vox pops and it squares with my experience of canvassing for Labour in a marginal in the West Mids - a total lack of enthusiasm for Boris Johnson.
@ashyclaret
@ashyclaret 5 жыл бұрын
Eh?lol
@Captainnationalexpress247
@Captainnationalexpress247 5 жыл бұрын
Everybody needs to vote for Jeremy Corbin of the Labour Party. This is very extremely important for the safety of our country. There's no time for games, hide and seek, and runaway depending cowards. Not even the test of confusion. This is the mater of the Country's Legacy and History of Life. My mission is to take the 1st leadership back where it's rightfully belongs and reunite the membership of the European Union to come in peace.
@s1050
@s1050 5 жыл бұрын
Captain National Express Voted. JC4PM 🌹 He’s the ONLY choice to save this country
@jamjam-v4q
@jamjam-v4q 5 жыл бұрын
8:20 "He stopped voting Labor when he stopped being a coalminer, therefore Labors vote has weakened because the people have changed". An alternate reading would be that he stopped voting Labor when Labor changed, when Labor stopped representing the English patriotism that exists in the north and replaced it with gender quotas and jeremy corbyn.
@shawndomenico5830
@shawndomenico5830 5 жыл бұрын
As a labor guy from the States, I am watching brexit and the UK election in fascination. Every installment of this series reveals more depth than before. Thanks for going out and listening to people face-to-face - it is hard, unpredictable work.
@ukwoodcarver
@ukwoodcarver 5 жыл бұрын
RED WALL 😂
@libertyprime69
@libertyprime69 5 жыл бұрын
ikr?
@BenFrewgoogle
@BenFrewgoogle 5 жыл бұрын
The absolute banter of John Harris. Mourns what he perceives as the decline of Labour but refuses to acknowledge the role he and his colleagues have played in the disillusion and disenfranchisement of the working class. John, I 'd love to talk to you about this, I really would.
@sirierieott5882
@sirierieott5882 5 жыл бұрын
This is a rare & valuable piece of personal perspective on the 2019 election from the north of England. I find this film by John Harris a much needed patient, calm and gentle analysis of real people and their initial reticence then resigned reply of ‘I was Labour, now I don’t know’. Very illuminating if depressing vox pop on the prospects of left wing ambitions for working class voting intentions. Also- This presenter is fair and balanced but... The left’s general tendency to resort to verbal if not physical assault on anyone who ‘admits’ their intention to vote Tory or Brexit simply shuts all conversation down and closes all doors to convince otherwise.
@Isaac-ny9kl
@Isaac-ny9kl 5 жыл бұрын
Three defining words for this election: Austerity+privatization and locality. Years of Austerity and privatization from both Labour (Tony fuckin Blair, etc.) and the EU turned much of UK politics sideways and led to Brexit. It seems many Brits have lost any faith they had left in politics beyond their local communities, certainly massive council cuts haven't helped this. Now, the only ones they see listening to em and solving local problems are... themselves. The local communities. There is an age old argument that humanities defining state is localist self-governing anarchy, seems that the trust in the government or political parties is gone. This new era is defined by failures, broken promises, and burnt trust. Whats left? Where do people retreat? To the communities they know. The people they trust. Each other. Eh, solidarity ain't it? But not through any sort of political party or institutionalized trade union. Those relationships are gone. The people for the people is all that's left. Pray the fascists and racists do not take advantage. Pray the people stand strong for each other.
@tap10lan
@tap10lan 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you John and John. Yours is a special genius - getting people of all (well, most) creeds to speak in a measured, sane way.
@dasreich5126
@dasreich5126 5 жыл бұрын
F Labour, Get Brexit Done, BackBoris.
@justtheouch
@justtheouch 5 жыл бұрын
If the past three years have shown us anything, it's that the Conservatives cannot get Brexit through parliament. The only way to get Brexit done at this point is to vote Labour, who will get the people's support and complete the process in 6 months. Voting for the Conservatives is voting for years more delay and stalling to Brexit.
@roadend78
@roadend78 5 жыл бұрын
We call ourselves a rich developed nation but we have working poor and we have foodbanks we have homeless on a grand scale. 10 years of cruel Tory Austerity Corbyn has won my vote .
@grahamt5924
@grahamt5924 5 жыл бұрын
You really think labour would have done better!
@roadend78
@roadend78 5 жыл бұрын
@@grahamt5924 Yes
@grahamt5924
@grahamt5924 5 жыл бұрын
@Jo Bloggs You think labour could have just kept spending there way out of difficulty. Even with austerity the public debt is rising quite rapidly. We now spend 8% of tax revenue just to service the debt we are in. You are complaining about austerity and yet what do you think will happen when the debt reaches a point where no one wants to lend the UK money?
@grahamt5924
@grahamt5924 5 жыл бұрын
@@roadend78 how? You think they should have spent more or put up taxes?
@goodyeoman4534
@goodyeoman4534 5 жыл бұрын
There is no serious party to represent socially conservative views. The Tories have adopted Blair's policies, Labour have turned off their own supporters (workers), and the fringe parties have no significance. Without a competitive left-right political system we are likely to see more of the same. And the resentment builds. As usual, tribal voting will ensure nothing changes. Johnson will get a majority despite being a liberal, and people will complain when we are fed more of the same tripe. The only way to break the backs of the main parties is mass-abstention at the ballot box. But this simply won't happen.
@gotcarter536
@gotcarter536 5 жыл бұрын
insightful and humane. highlighting stories less heard. thanks.
@lucasbridges8082
@lucasbridges8082 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing journalism. Thank you!
@Dane-ek5vn
@Dane-ek5vn 5 жыл бұрын
8% of labour mp are from working class background not the party for working class anymore
@harmlessdrudge
@harmlessdrudge 5 жыл бұрын
When a Guardianista meets the working class: total incomprehension.
@leebrown352
@leebrown352 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, as a Labour supporter, we better hope these young people turn up and vote and we can really hit home the pro's of a labour government and the damage a further tory government would do, otherwise we're in trouble. It's so sad and frustrating to see people saying they need labour's manifesto whilst saying there's no option available.
@thethirdman2135
@thethirdman2135 5 жыл бұрын
Corbyn will help no one by bankrupting the country
@Zahramasseyart
@Zahramasseyart 5 жыл бұрын
honestly feels so hopeless right now
@rmleighton1
@rmleighton1 5 жыл бұрын
Tories dragged out Brexit and manage to pin it on Labour. It's Socialism or Barbarism. Once The City of London becomes the financial cesspool, Baberism wins. Love your show.
@person.X.
@person.X. 5 жыл бұрын
Not surprised people are ignorant or cynical about unions in the UK if they are as useless as the unions here in Australia. We have had a situation here for years whereby all permanent jobs have gone casual even though people might be doing these jobs for many years. I have never understood how this has been legal but assumed it was because the unions and Labor party have NEVER challenged it. Finally a disabled casual worker took a labour hire company to court and WON. Why did it have to be one individual man putting his head on the block to change this? Why am I paying hundreds of dollars to a union? Shows how corrupt the left has become. No interest whatsoever in actually looking after the people who pay their wages.
@ameeeeeeela
@ameeeeeeela 5 жыл бұрын
This country is so depressing. What can we do? Even the people who are hit the hardest by cuts have somehow been left completely disengaged.
@benhyde5150
@benhyde5150 5 жыл бұрын
Its because of the right wing gutter press its ruined the country for decades
@ameeeeeeela
@ameeeeeeela 5 жыл бұрын
@ I don't and never have read The Guardian... Don't really look at anything they do apart from this series on KZbin
@shollymore
@shollymore 5 жыл бұрын
thank you for this program
@alundavies8402
@alundavies8402 4 жыл бұрын
You know that Young man talking about what is needed in Wolverhampton HE is who we should be able to vote for not someone from a background of wealth we need young people like that!!
@sclibertarian348
@sclibertarian348 4 жыл бұрын
Why is it the government's responsibility to take care of these people from cradle to grave? Seriously, do you want to be free or do you want to be a ward of the state?
@paulduffy697
@paulduffy697 5 жыл бұрын
🤣😂😅😂🤣🤪Labour Wall got crushed into dust by a 🌊🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧...Bye 🇪🇺
@annwalpole1593
@annwalpole1593 5 жыл бұрын
These vids are amazing.
@wil9089
@wil9089 5 жыл бұрын
You NEED to vote LABOUR! Corbyn is the man of the people and will save the NHS.
@SacClass650
@SacClass650 5 жыл бұрын
Man it must be depressing talking to so many lumpenproletariats, if I may say so - the cognitive dissonance is cataclysmic. Of course, you can say that they're victims, which is true, but then there is willingly continuing to wear the shirt that's saturated in sick. I admire, but don't envy you, John(s)...
@SacClass650
@SacClass650 5 жыл бұрын
@@Irishtradchannel Was it the terminology? I know "lumpenproletariats" can come across dickish, but it accurate in my estimation. I'm not someone who usually has a lot of time for verbose Marxist theory, however, I do have time for the aforementioned "lumpen" and "false consciousness." But please, elucidate your retort, my dear...
@claudiamariebermudez6727
@claudiamariebermudez6727 5 жыл бұрын
If your not going to vote you have no right to complain.
@leedaintry2923
@leedaintry2923 5 жыл бұрын
Ahh reading the sun, how intellectually challenging.
@leedaintry2923
@leedaintry2923 5 жыл бұрын
@@thebatman4279 it's hard to decide which is more stimulating, reading the sun, or shagging a shark.
5 жыл бұрын
oh yes! lets sneer at the oiks! that'll work..
@daveruda
@daveruda 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisf1600 Are you living in a world were people opposed to rightwing tabloid trash are "The Guardian reader"? This tribalist thinking is toxic.
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