United And Liverpool Fans Pick An All-Time Combined XI (Ft. Thogden) | The Eleven |

The Eleven brings a classic pub debate to life. Two rival football fans go head-to-head, to debate which players would make it into a combined team from their clubs. The Judge - a neutral fan - has the final say on each position on the pitch.
In the latest episode, Manchester United fan Adam McKola goes up against Liverpool fan Grizz Khan to debate an all-time Premier League era combined team, with Thogden overseeing proceedings.
Thanks to Adam McKola, Grizz Khan and Thogden for taking part:
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Grizz: / @footballkhanage
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[@LADbible]

Thanks to Adam McKola, Grizz Khan and Thogden for taking part

[@moe.moe.codgamer5125]

Yo, do you even know football? Where is Giggs? Totally unacceptable. Are you kids or what? Go play fifa and leave real football pls.

[@moe.moe.codgamer5125]

Vidic two time ( the player of the season ) no defender have ever done that in the Premier league. Where is he in your stupid lineup. Otherwise you must do 5 or 11 players as subs if you don't mention these players, totally unacceptable!

[@moe.moe.codgamer5125]

NO NO NO totally unacceptable, recreate the video and don't forget Giggs next time . How dare you? Unforgivable.

[@KTK44]

@@moe.moe.codgamer5125 Men who beats up women are not allowed on any team. Sorry not sorry. His legacy is trashed now. He'll be remembered for nothing but a brute.

[@moe.moe.codgamer5125]

@@KTK44 Idc about his attitude outside of the pitch. I care about what he has done AS A PLAYER, which is our discussion here, so go away.

[@vashishthrajyaguru5776]

I love this Liverpool Fan...his patience levels are so good and he is so humble...btw i am a Utd Fan

[@honestmanutdfan603]

That's how they work stay calm annoy the other person make them start shouting and then stay calm to look like the good guy

[@XavierJAlexander]

Tbh they need to be if it’s all time premier league eta

[@harrymillward7135]

Grizz is a legend

[@farhanahmed211]

both were awesome, respecting each others opinion

[@iso460]

@@honestmanutdfan603 Don't be a clown. Some fans just have the right behavior and you can respect them, even if it's a rival

[@rammus5672]

As I United Fan, I can say this liverpool fan is absolute class! Conducted himself very professionally and calmly. I cant say the same for Adam. Also Gerrard walks into any 11, it shouldn't even be a debate

[@MrVinjex]

Gerrard had the most EPL team of the year inclusions and this was whilst Scholes and Keane were in the league. As a United fan, I hate how much I like Gerrard

[@ebubeejiogu820]

Clearly not a United fan. Shut up

[@amurphy4004]

Totally agree. I'm a united fan too. Liverpool fan respected the right choice.

[@joshuabarry1972]

Yep you know ball mate

[@LoCoAde87]

Peak Fergie and Mou wanted Gerrard. Says it all really.

[@handono5382]

This is one of the healthiest conversations about football ever. Given the topic is about Manchester United and Liverpool. The success and the rivalry between them. I love this. The debate and argument are reasonably good and not biased at all.

[@Hekka101]

I feel like if the Liverpool fan had been a bit more firm he could have gotten more players in the team but I don’t think he cares because he just wanted to have a calm debate

[@r4h4al]

@@Hekka101 Nah I think the ratio was spot on.

[@Hekka101]

@@r4h4al i think you are a bit of a weirdo

[@source2531]

@@Hekka101 Pretty sure he's not trying to "ratio" u

[@Hekka101]

@@source2531 well whether he is trying or not he isnt

[@eoinmallon6207]

As a huge Man Utd fan, I have so much respect for the Liverpool fan. Honest man, fair play!

[@FootballKhanage]

Was a pleasure doing this 🙌🏽

[@jordandunn6814]

Legend Grizz

[@marioenah7502]

Great work Grizz! Absolutely did us proud.

[@PontyP]

Top class as always grizz! The best representative for us Liverpool fans on social media as always 👍

[@thecornerfla9]

Man knows his stuff...always great watching your football chats

[@azlankhan4172]

You did really well mate. I feel Alison could have gotten in the team because he will likely continue his successes into his mid to late 30's and if you have Van Dijk you gotta have Alison.

[@eoinoshea3151]

Glad they didn’t completely disrespect Rooney by not leaving him out of the team like they did do in the arsenal one

[@conorryan2392]

Completely agree, think in that utd, arsenal one, Andy Tate missed a beat, they went into stats for those seasons and Rooney had more assists than bergkamp had g+a that season

[@GhengisGoon]

Only deluded English fans think Rooney is better then Bergkamp

[@harrishba3707]

@@GhengisGoon he is better you're the delusional one

[@callum64151]

In the arsenal one the united fan couldn’t even debate cos the arsenal fan was delusional and wouldn’t hear anyones opinion

[@AlexZouhehe]

@@GhengisGoon lmao. Would you believe me if the footballing world considers arsenal fans some of the most difficult, childish and awkward people to talk to? I don't think you would. I think aftv is a good representation of you lot and i dont mean that in a nice way. And Rooney slightly edges bergkamp tbf.

[@teddy-lq3hj]

Grizz is so respectable, thoughtful, and calm

[@BigWes95]

Out of all of the teams they've done on here this is probably the only one where I've agreed with most of it

[@theanfieldsultan]

Ronaldo out cantona in

[@jdc6354]

@@theanfieldsultan Ronaldo one season was better than eric cantona whole career

[@moe.moe.codgamer5125]

Are you a kid just started watching football yesterday? How can you agree while the greatest player of the Premier history isn't here? Ryan Giggs. Go play fifa kids ok leave real football pls don't make people laugh at you.

[@BigWes95]

@@moe.moe.codgamer5125 if you think giggs was better than ronaldo then you need to give your head a wobble. He was never the best player in the league at any point of his career. Never even really that close

[@moe.moe.codgamer5125]

@@BigWes95 yo, they are talking about the Premier league not La Liga, are you dumb enough or dont listen to their video? Ronaldo spent most of his career and achievements in la liga. Give yourself 2 minutes to learn about Ryan Giggs pls 😂😭

[@mpah4424]

We need more football fans like Grizz! Absolute fair guy and class act

[@lukebest7424]

Thogden questioning Jaap Stam tells you all you need to know about his footballing knowledge

[@amir22872]

he did say that he was learning from them two when they were talking about Irwin, tbf Thogden's still young it is to be expected

[@dillonsass6609]

Its cos Thogden is drinking beer, it went to his head🍺. He should've asked for a glass of water 🤣

[@Rob07544]

@@dillonsass6609 half a pint

[@shaebryant1916]

@@amir22872 shouldn’t be on there

[@lukebest7424]

@@amir22872 he should've educated himself beforehand. And Jaap Stam isn't a particularly obscure player. And this guy has a football channel as well. Basically knows about players from the last 10 years and that's it the absolute joker.

[@hurrdurrimagrunt]

Grizz is good on this, as is Maych. Two fair and objective red men.

[@pacman7687]

Nothing about anyone on Redmen is fair and objective

[@amolmehrotra1296]

@@pacman7687 why you such a hater man you are everywhere 😂 why do you even watch rival channels and expect them to be objective.

[@pacman7687]

@@amolmehrotra1296 because everyone has a brain and can be rational, just cousers mainly cant manage it

[@amolmehrotra1296]

@@pacman7687 yeah like Buvey right? He is the most biased football commentator out there and represents Man city as much Redmen represents Liverpool, but I have never seen you once comment below his videos yet you are here. So you are just biased, hypocrite and non rational as others, according to your logic you are also a couser congrats 😂

[@pacman7687]

@@amolmehrotra1296 Mate theres a huge difference. Buvey's almost there for comedy, Redmen is a serious channel. BUvey's footballing opinions are nonsense and no one takes anything seriously. Theres plenty of great City youtube channels that "represent" us, not Buvey

[@ParrotsTT]

For the 1st time ever I actually enjoyed the dialogue, both fans put their bias aside for the most part and I agreed with all of these picks

[@EE-kt8sh]

Nah Adam was too biased. And i'm a united fan

[@barbarasband6818]

@@EE-kt8sh I’m a united fan as well but our legends are better than Liverpool in most positions so it makes sense for him to argue for united the only player who gets in is gerrard imo

[@meldyrum4545]

@@barbarasband6818 nah bro, that's ridiculous, the comment was about putting aside bias and you've gone and said that

[@barbarasband6818]

@@meldyrum4545 what u mean how has Trent got in van dijk maybe but I’d take Vidic and salah I’d rather have ronaldo and then take giggs on the left

[@meldyrum4545]

@@barbarasband6818 I'm gonna break this down one by one. Firstly: Trent ,as was said, completeley revolutionised the right back role. that players are expected to fit into nowadays. The numbers he puts up in termsn of assists Xa and chances created are ridicoulos for a midfielder let alone a defender. I know you'll bring up defending, but contrary to popular belief trent excels in this area producing the second-third best defensive statistics per 90 in the prem last season for right backs, the only thing he lacks is defensive awareness. Secondly: Vidic was an amazing player but he is glorifies over his highlights reels where he made unnecessary slide tackles that he didn't need to make or could have been prevented earlier. As well as this Vidic always had frerdinand or another world class defender next to him, Van Dijk when he came in had an average matip, joe gomez and lovren as his partenr and still managed to lead liverpool to a league title and a champions league by transforming that defense. Van dijk also managed to finish 2nd in the ballondor behind the greatest of all time in one of his best ever seasons, from centre back. Thats insane and vidic never managed anything close. Thirdly: Salah has played 5 going on 6 impeccable seasons, ronaldo had 3 good seasons at united, salah also holds the goalscoring record in the premier league, beating rolando, and also beating him for assists in almost all of his years as well. Salah while not as good at useless stepovers or dribbling is positionally the better attacker and wouldv'e also won a ballondor had he won the 2018 champions league final instead of Madrid. To add to this giggs while it wasn't his role, scored more than 10 goals in a season only twice over 21 seasons, and scored less than 5 in over 10 off those seasons, salah has also put up more numbers in assists and creatively in general, and while giggs was less of a direct attacking threat and more of a midfielder in a 4-4-2 he lacked any dazzling technical ability and did not have the ability to dictate the tempo or the run of play. Putting away bias the team presented is very good and perfect in my opinion.

[@lukewalker5096]

Why would you make Thogden the judge? 😂😂

[@oufc90]

Right 😂 probably never seen half of these players play, or in their prime at least

[@craigglassford8533]

Yeah the guy is clueless

[@NachoInsano]

Big mistake he’s an absolute crumpet

[@palashrawat401]

Making thogden a judge in something involving Ronaldo is plain dumb

[@5thdawg917]

😂 The guy is 21 years old! He was born in 2001. There is no way his seen majority of the Man Utd players play.

[@joshdavis3090]

As an LFC fan, I really can't argue with the final eleven. I think they got it spot on, but if it wasn't for the LFC fan being so humble, respectful and realistic, it could've gotten ugly...

[@gethinhughes8153]

As a Liverpool fan Grizz debated really fairly there. Adam is always really bitter.

[@amateurchef9992]

Calm down gethin

[@ragnarok283]

I will be bitter if someone’s picking Gerrard over Scholes too lol

[@EE-kt8sh]

Need more guys like Grizz on these football talks.

[@odintrondsen1977]

This was a very healthy and unbiased conversation, and I loved every second of it. Two unbiased people who is being calm and not screaming at each other. Its easy as an Liverpool fan to be biased atm, cause we are so much better than United right now. But can´t forget how good United was a few years ago. Huge respect to the both of them!

[@sudhanshg16]

Such an amazing conversation. Unbiased and totally healthy debate, as it is supposed to be!

[@rfc2399]

Thogmong shouldn’t be here when he hasn’t even seen highlights of Dennis Irwin 😭

[@debendersnair856]

Queue the "As the opposition supporter, this person is so respectful" and the "I'm supporter of this team and this person should not represent our club"

[@honestmanutdfan603]

Man utd fan is a legend

[@jack7boom7]

that RW debate is crazy! as a Man U fan, Salah gets it easy. As much as I love Beckham he became more of a celebrity than a footballer at the end

[@arjinaasad2383]

Isn't he supposed to do what he wants after retirement.

[@honestmanutdfan603]

Beckham is clear as a player

[@khumeighalo406]

Exactly at the end not in his prime....its a Shame gorge best was nt in the conversation

[@user-io8cm4dk1f]

@@arjinaasad2383 this was before retirement

[@XavierJAlexander]

Most idiotic child comment I’ve come accross

[@alexab543]

Man Utd fans can't really hate on Schmeichel celebrating City's goals, as they've all been doing the same for the past 4-5 years

[@PPTheKop]

Now I understand why United fans were annoyed when us liverpool fans talked about history alot in the past... 🤣

[@honestmanutdfan603]

See 😅🤣

[@PPTheKop]

Its bloody annoying as! 🤣

[@honestmanutdfan603]

@@PPTheKop ik but at the same we both have and nothing else to talk about when we were shit

[@PPTheKop]

@@honestmanutdfan603 True. Most of them don't even have that so lets just enjoy these episodes. Only hoping liverpool to play well this weekend as we all know liverpool don't play their best football against teams at the bottom 😅

[@lk7923]

@@PPTheKop not true. Last year we played our best football against teams in the bottom and barely took any points against the top 4

[@BigGunner234]

United’s Ty is back at it again with the delusion, the Liverpool fan was class all around, understood the point of the debate and had actual discourse.

[@dg1786]

As a united fan of 31 years. Your bang on. He’s to bias, football fan before my team, and you just can’t deny great players regardless of who they play for.

[@woodkey1]

True. he just wanna put out united best 11 might as well put George best. Yeay 11 players from man united. No need for discussion. Thats the problem of some united fans

[@ItsAv3rageGamer]

McKola is one of the most arrogant fans out there.

[@thedirtybubble2983]

Am I the only one that thinks Howson is worse than McKola? As a UTD fan I think both are insufferable tho

[@BigGunner234]

@TheRealJimmySaville Don't know how I'm being salty, im an arsenal fan so I just watch it because I want to hear a discussion beyond delusional tribalism, I guess that's salty nowadays lol.

[@dandanSWLdnGooner]

"Virgil Van Dyke is our cake or we're fasting otherwise" 😭🤣😭 big up Grizz 👊🏽

[@godfatherpart4590]

Grizz what a lad . Absolute class 👏👏

[@adamhughes117]

GK: Peter Schmeichel RB: Alexander-Arnold CB: Rio Ferdinand CB: Virgil Van Dijk LB: Dennis Irwin CM: Roy Keane CM: Steven Gerrard CM: Paul Scholes RW: Mo Salah LW: Cristiano Ronaldo CF: Wayne Rooney

[@kavilansigapragasan9267]

💯

[@kingsleyinno3762]

I think vingil and ferdie looks similar players can't complement each other ,I will go with one of them+vidic..Torres of Liverpool my striker

[@abcdefed3f]

ST: Suarez

[@alirazajafree3119]

@@kingsleyinno3762 shouldnt be basing combination 11s on playing styles, youre comparing players of completely different eras and teams so its a useless take unfortunately

[@abcdefed3f]

Or CF: Cantona

[@ryancurran4600]

One of the only debates I’ve actually enjoyed, no biased, just a few lads who actually have ball knowledge

[@AnthB]

Have all of them had memory loss or something? Ronaldo played almost his entire United career on the right wing, he started playing on the left when he came to Madrid. His best season at United 07/08 he started 35 games as a right winger and only 1 game as a left winger and that was the CL final.

[@dejansega1986]

Most of the best Liverpool players are still playing, so it's difficult to rate them. They might win a lot more or they might decline

[@Lisa-cj8cu]

I take it as you support united or I don't think you would of said that

[@Davey768]

@@Lisa-cj8cu Nah, anyone would say that. Trent and Van Dijk doesn't deserve to even be mentioned when it comes to this. Adam went easy.

[@sib1930]

@@Davey768 Yes they do

[@at..]

Liverpool is writing history as we speak 🗣 these premiership greats aren’t done yet so its unfair to judge

[@dejansega1986]

@@Lisa-cj8cu I support Liverpool. But as I said most of the players are still playing. They've been great, but "only" won 1 PL and 1 CL title. But they've mostly been here 4-5 years. A lot of the best United players were playing for them for 10 years. So in 5 years some of the Liverpool players might have 5 new trophies, or some might get worse and be sold... We don't know yet

[@josephmorton8477]

The first one of these videos where both fans have got it spot on and they were both respectful to each other's arguements

[@jaxteller872]

United fan here, Big up Grizz, very impartial, respectful, how a football fan should be when going into debates. Adam on the other hand, was such a prick, subtle digs, very bias and arrogant at times.

[@LoCoAde87]

McKola being McKola. The usual.

[@blackholesupersloth3276]

Can't be watching Thogdon.

[@Electroma94]

He did reasonably ok at not coming off as a total bellend

[@blackholesupersloth3276]

@@Electroma94 The Interview with Ben Foster and Goldbridge made him unbearable

[@Electroma94]

@@blackholesupersloth3276 He generally is unbearable but looks like LadBible told him to chill out

[@arifkeskin2698]

Grizz Khan is one of a kind. Love hearing him talk. Need to see more of him.

[@johnnyryan656]

Get the Irish Guy Here He doesn't bite

[@Dz73zxxx]

Irish Guy on Newcastle debate, that would be awesome!

[@ankitlad25]

I love McKola but we need a little more rational representation from Manchester United fans. Cannot be emotional and vibe on the bygone days, players combined XI is also about individual merit in that specific playing position and not just trophies won as a team. This is coming from a United fan.

[@dettwork]

this is literally a team based on bygone days.. if there's a time to vibe on them, it's here

[@Sachin-gv7ik]

How can one love McKola?

[@alirazajafree3119]

@@dettwork shouldnt be basing it off trophies

[@Johndoe-gf7eu]

@@alirazajafree3119 shouldn’t be an in all time premier league XI if you never won it. Why would i want gerrard in my combined 11 when he doesn’t know what its like to win a title, how can i trust him? How can i trust him on final day to perform? How do i know he won’t bottle it?

[@dettwork]

@@alirazajafree3119 yeah, otherwise there'd be no Liverpool players in it at all, but at the same time being a standout player in a team that won 3 in a row has to be better than being a standout player in a team that didn't win it at all?

[@deenuk125]

Issue with these videos is it goes back to "he won more" Ok then make the entire United 11 with no Liverpool players by that logic there's no point for a video We all know Fletcher was a far better midfielder than Gerard because he won the PL cmon Top logic there

[@tamberlame27]

4 - 4 - 2 Van der Saar Neville - Rio - van Djik - Dennis Irwin Salah - keane - Gerrad - Ronaldo Rooney - Suarez

[@thomasforde3900]

Grizz (Liverpool fan) was fantastic in this, could have definitely got one or two more in there but was very unbiased and accepting of some great United players

[@EE-kt8sh]

Annoying when people do mixed teams with extreme bias. Beckman over Salah is a madness. And I'm a united fan

[@_biggaz]

Ur the only mad one here. What are u 14? Someone didnt watch beckham. Far better footballer. U want athlete okay salahs faster and stronger, what footballing traits are better than beckham tho? He certainly doesnt have anything that stands out as much as beckhams passing ahead of his counterpart

[@EE-kt8sh]

@_biggaz You don't know football just sit down man. Salah is better goal scorer, better dribbler, had more assists. Only idiot united fans or english people would take him over Salah

[@dudebro6902]

We should have Chelsea all time and Liverpool all time with Rory and Grizz. It would be the calmest video ever.

[@Sam-Ra]

That's why you don't make a kid a referee.

[@andrei.242]

Best debate i have ever seen. Would watch it again

[@Joker-yw9hl]

Host and Adam wound me up, and I'm a United fan. Most down to earth Liverpool fan I've ever seen

[@michaelwvega9439]

Great video and it was so equal and fair it’s unreal. However I will say Trent didn’t revolutionize the Fullback position. Guys like Cafu, Caravjal, Dani alves, Roberto Carlos, Fachetti all revolutionized this position and the wonder kids fullbacks we see in this day and age are all stuff these guys I mentioned already did in their perspective primes.

[@degars6383]

that was such a civilized and relatively unbiased conversation, shows that a video can be entertaining without having to be 'heated'

[@LWipo]

FOR ONCE, people put bias aside and just appreciated both sets of players. Sometimes rivalry doesn't matter and just reminisce about some of the great players we've all seen. Reminds me of Ronaldo or Messi, who cares really? Just be grateful we all got to see them both play as they are probably #1 and #2 of all time depending on preference.

[@qBodi]

not everyone has that random opinion

[@klassed234]

Lit only the Liverpool fan did this, that utd fan bias as they come

[@qBodi]

@@klassed234 just like liverpool simps

[@SlimClipper]

Sorry but Messi vs. Ronaldo isn’t preference, it’s a litmus test for knowledge of the sport and anyone who says Ronaldo fails the test miserably.

[@mobiustriple]

Did we watch the same video? Cuz even the judge was biased

[@k182l]

These should be a 4 4 2 so there's 2 picks for each position and debate of it

[@user-io8cm4dk1f]

This sort of debate just isn’t really fair, that United team had so many players who stayed there for years and years and won so many league titles etc, whereas Liverpool has only won 1. To make it more fair, and to make it more entertaining, it should’ve been a certain season for each team and only base it off how they performed in that season. Plus the fact that Liverpool’s most successful team of the Premier era is still happening, so the players haven’t even finished their careers yet, comparing them to players who played 10+ years for an insane United team just isn’t fair.

[@XavierJAlexander]

That’s why it’s an all time team

[@shush1219]

Then United would still destroy them

[@alirazajafree3119]

@@XavierJAlexander it should have been all time 11, meaning taking into account the likes of ian rush and kenny dalglish

[@mac2200]

@@alirazajafree3119 Then United would take into account Best, Charlton, Law etc

[@raxj8257]

@@alirazajafree3119 Liverpool would win that hands down

[@j.jswatt1401]

Easily the best epi yet, two fans arguably part of one of the biggest rivalry in sports and there was no screaming or overreacting. Fair analysis on both parts (theres always bias).

[@chrisd1404]

Where did they found a fair, unbiased, down to earth and relatively normal Liverpool fan? This guy is rare!

[@pancakeman8821]

It's weird to think that one day the prem will have been around as long as the first division was, (touchwood) and it'll be pretty much impossible to do these combined 11's

[@richafonz309]

Not even a chance because there’s only 1 player that plays rn, can replace this team and it’s kdb

[@ryanjackson4004]

Questionable about Trent over G Nev but respect has been shown in all players so credit to both of them

[@PontyP]

Noway your saying it’s a debate between Neville and TAA? It was even the easiest decision for mcKola in this whole video, Neville was a solid player and would run through brick walls for United but player to player Trent is far superior

[@michaelduckett7688]

@@PontyP is he bollocks. Neville’s easily the best RB in premiership history. Trent’s not even top 5!

[@PontyP]

@@michaelduckett7688 Noway you just said that? Best right back in PL history? No past or present player is even putting him anywhere near they’re best 11 they’ve played with

[@oLogicalYT]

More of this series please

[@2g772]

Should've used 3-4-3 as formation since both teams didn't have best of the fullbacks that can be considered all time greats and would've had great debate

[@saranshsharma4005]

Yeah, Trent revolutionized the RB role.. You see, now a days, your RB don't have to defend anymore.. that's what he revolutionized🤣🤣🤣

[@yessi1585]

Defends as well as cancelo..

[@97YNWA97]

It’s funny how Barca, Real, Liverpool and Bayern fans will all agree a full back nowadays don’t need to be sound defensively, rather be a creative force attacking yet it’s just Utd fans who’ll disagree and say a full back has to be firstly good defensively… even every top manager like Pep, Klopp etc will agree

[@Jxotic631]

Im a united fan but TAA is different gravy

[@albymichael7193]

When you make an all time 11 you don’t look at trophies you look at how they are as a player

[@Matt-fe6wu]

Correct to a certain point. You have to look at reasons why certain players didn't win trophies and a rationale as to why they would be selected over someone who has a history of trophies.

[@AdamT-mv3ok]

It has to be a combination of both trophies and how good they were/are on their day, but trophies should always have the edge. How they are/were as players can make way for more subjective opinions which is hard to quantify for a fair debate. For example someone like Gary Neville was never the most easy on the eye as a player but he was efficient and remained efficient for over a decade, if Trent stops performing now he doesn't get ahead of Gary Neville all time regardless of how good he's been so far. Just like Henderson has been a greater Midfielder in the PL as compared to someone like say Modrić in the PL who was overall more gifted and went on to have an overall greater career, not to say he wasn't good for Spurs but Henderson in the PL has been greater than Modrić in the PL.

[@FatTodd]

Cristiano is the reason man u revived and won that 3 peat of Prems.

[@manojcm7567]

@@FatTodd bs comment u must be either a kid or a fanboy to say that lmao

[@FatTodd]

@@manojcm7567 how am I fanboy. London clubs in Chelsea and arsenal were running the prem, 3 years without a title ppl were saying fergue is done out. Ronaldo comes back from world cup a man, destroyed the league 3 years in a row, with the 07/08 season the best individual season in prem history. Arsenal were close to getting Ronaldo and that could have changed the course of our history. So when I massively rate Ronaldo, I have good reason. If he came to us, we would have won more.

[@Wiktor928]

this video was great and grizz made some great choices and arguments! loved the guy but im heavily debating the disrespect not to mention dudeks name in goal

[@CFCVideos]

What’s Grizzs Jacket from? I can not tell

[@dogsofwar811]

Lmaooooo that line about Harry Maguire "rolls royce don't make fridges" had me on the floor

[@ukbigjon]

United fan here. Just comparing Ronaldo and Salah there are two distinctions to make; their overall ability and level at their best and then there is their individual records in the league. If you are looking at who has been the better player, obviously that is Ronaldo; to question it would be stupid. Remembering Ronnie's first stint, if you had the ability to pick peak Balon d'or winning Ronaldo, which emerged in his penultimate season; you pick him over Salah. However, if you are looking at their over all record in the league, salah has spent more of his best years here, so his record is better in the Prem. So based on record in the league, you'd pick Salah. Two amazing players either way.

[@bri1085]

I like this, the least 3 years of his first stint were amazing, but Salah has more of less matched plus an extra year. There's a tendency of including his time at Madrid, where he was a different level altogether.

[@ukbigjon]

@@bri1085 equally I think people forget he actually did enter his peak at United; winning the Ballon d'or in '08... where he was absolutely incredible. But yeah, most of his peak wasnt at united; hence as I suggested, I do think you can assess them both by those two distinct criteria.

[@mj200]

They were talking about premier league impact. Therefore it's Salah?

[@telmolicious]

@@mj200 Why the question mark? 😅

[@mj200]

@@telmolicious excellent point

[@m.fuzailbandarkar7023]

These videos are cool.....I think that the agree to disagree videos are next level....hope to more of them

[@connorwilliams8714]

Hate how people say trent revolutionised that position when Roberto Carlos Dani ALVES and Marcelo have been working that role for decades

[@michaelcorleonejr]

As an Arsenal fan my all time combined XI for Man Utd/Liverpool would be GK: Schmeichel, LB: Evra, RB: Trent, CB: Van Djik, CB: Ferdinand, RW/RM: Salah, CM: Scholes, CM: Gerrard, LW/LM: Ronaldo, FW: Suarez, FW: Rooney

[@harrypascoe5789]

this is the perfect team

[@bri1085]

Fair although I'd sneak Carrick in 👀

[@michaelcorleonejr]

@@bri1085 😂 not a chance Alonso, Keane, way ahead of him in the pecking order

[@bri1085]

@@michaelcorleonejr I'm deadly serious too, he's the player Scholes became after and retired.

[@michaelcorleonejr]

@@bri1085 Carrick an average player imo

[@andrewaziz3577]

i see thogden i switch off!

[@Lewis080]

The thumbnail is dreadful.

[@Johndoe-gf7eu]

Featuring a bolton fan, fantastic

[@laugh6581]

Both of them were so accurate with the decisions though, really cool video

[@marcusMakoT]

4-4-2 Schmeichel Alexander-Arnold - Stam - Vidic - Irwin Ronaldo - Gerrard - Keane - Giggs Rooney - Cantona

[@memesmemes5452]

deluded🤣

[@marcusMakoT]

@@memesmemes5452 Let me hear your team then😂

[@forreal7403]

I think they shoulda played 433 attacking and put Rooney in the 10 and Suarez in the 9.

[@Regista268]

we did well to get anyone in there but a lot of it has to do with tactics. if you're picking a team to play today you go with a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 with attacking wing backs and inside forwards instead of traditional wingers and fullbacks so a lot of the core players in dominant united teams don't really fit. up front ronaldo on the left and salah on the right makes sense in the 4-3-3 but if you were going for an old style 4-4-2 with traditional wingers you'd go with barnes and beckham or giggs and beckham. For attacking full backs you can't go past Irwin and Trent because Neville as good as he was in a 4-4-2 wouldn't fit in the modern system, but Irwin would work perfectly and maybe be even better than he was. Keane as a 6 with gerrard and scholes as the 8's is hard to argue with. ferdinand and van dijk have the pace and comfort on the ball for a high line. i wouldn't change anything tbh

[@percypervis9470]

Why didn't that guy who was the judge just have a soft drink instead of pretending to enjoy that pint

[@benbancroft9643]

Im a UTD fan… this was embarrassing from Adam. Salah is 100% in over Ronaldo and Becks on the right. Gerrard and Keane isn’t even a question, should be a certainty and Scholes is one of my favourite ever UTD players.

[@monkey.854]

salah is no wear near man u ronaldo, there's just no way you actually believe that

[@binggo4261]

😂

[@paulcris107]

U must be 6 do you remember young ronaldo at Man Utd

[@monkey.854]

@@paulcris107 I clearly remember watching him in Man U from 2006 to 2007 😹

[@ejsmartt]

Fair play fair play, I’m happy with this. Secondly, I’m a massive fan of Rooney but my man could’ve given a better argument for Rooney v Suarez, in terms of who would they want in one single season with this team. Would’ve been more interesting. I’m a United fan btw 😂

[@WaniZame]

Over a career in terms of achievement and statistics and even ability I think anybody who watches football would say Suarez was a better player over his career BUT you can’t argue Rooneys significance in the Prem. Had Suarez done a decade in England he would probably have surpassed Henry as the best to do it in England.

[@forreal7403]

They should have put Rooney in the 10 and put Suarez as a striker.

[@viveknair5818]

Damn reasonable people and great arguments! That Andy Tate didn't know to argue and didn't get Rooney on that Arsenal United lineup!

[@shlokpant3554]

as a utd fan grizz was amazing this vid. he had the patience and was calm and his respect even though he was a lfc fan is class

[@ellis9290]

"We could possibly contemplate putting him on the left" hahaha fuck sake Adam was really determined to have an all-united 11

[@Electroma94]

Can't really argue with the team. Rooney has to be in there on longevity and trophies.

[@mainakdas4305]

Rooney is there in the centre forward.

[@Electroma94]

@@mainakdas4305 I know, I'm agreeing he deserves to be in there over Suarez. But it's very close

[@mainakdas4305]

@@Electroma94 bro Suarez is the best centre forward in our generation. But in Premier League it has to be Rooney but Rooney is an all-rounder. I agree that. Also he can able to play in different postions that makes him one of the best forward in the history of Premier League.

[@Electroma94]

@@mainakdas4305 yeah, and Suarez' best season is better than Rooney best season

[@steve88evets31]

Grizz has a really great attitude. I did like the decades comment. Think they slept on that one haha

[@thiagoteixeira6537]

Damn Grizz was so fair to Man United! Fair play mate!

[@ibrarhussain2508]

Grizz with the educated views, mckola on emotion rather then football

[@xJamessii]

Honestly at this point, Mckola has to be playing a character... Surely?

[@chonlienlalhaokip3139]

As a Liverpool fan i couldn't agree more . Great debate Guys

[@afellownerd]

Gk: Schmeichel Rb: trent Cb: Ferdinand, van dijk Lb: irwin Cdm: keane Cm: scholes, Gerrard Rw: salah Lw: ronaldo St: rooney Bench Van de sar Neville Vidic Carrick Beckham Mane Suarez Cantona Giggs

[@AdamMcKola]

Thanks for having me, guys. 👊🏾

[@Smokey_MR2]

Typical delusional united fan 🙄

[@bensansom9626]

does anyone know where to buy the cap that grizz is wearing or at least similar ones?

[@gumpastee]

How is Bobby Charlton, George Best, Ian Rush etc. not in, they said all time XI.

[@ImmortalRises]

Massive respect to Rooney, but Suarez was that little bit special this man was breaking records and missing a handful of games too, it was a joke how good Suarez was, just look at the chances he missed, outrageous he shouldn’t even be trying to score. Suarez’ technical ability is slept on how he isn’t mentioned alongside Benzema and Lewi is disrespect. Suarez also has the 3rd most assists in all of football, for a forward that is nuts. Rooney was more of a direct forward, a proper striker and a brilliant one too. For me Suarez just edges it Rooney is a brilliant goal scorer and if I could play 2 up front it would be them 2.

[@rambo1872]

If ur talking about them in their prime suarez miles better, but premier league 11 u have to give it to Rooney for longevity and accolades

[@manino5872]

No if your talking prime then suarez is better from a united fan but in terms of longevity in the prem and overall, rooney is better

[@economicswithruss6259]

I hope Adam has seen Rio’s lie detector test where he knows VVD is clear 🤣

[@gamingscout592]

I hope u having seen vvd saying to Rio , u are ahead of me

[@bri1085]

@@Mmm-ix7eh he really wasn't, there's a man utd fan right there who didn't bring up Vidic

[@economicswithruss6259]

@@Mmm-ix7eh hahaha good one

[@economicswithruss6259]

@@gamingscout592 I have, and VVD was being humble, Rio literally laughed because he knows

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[@Hekka101]

The longest I’ve heard this Liverpool fan being let talk compared to his vid with Ty

[@virajsraul]

Wow, the best agreed all time Xi video ever...sensible, smart and mostly the right choices

[@TrymTheXboxGamer]

don't forget who scored the last goal in UCL in 98/99 Solskjaer

[@gureyg3795]

He was super sub. So definitely should be the first of the bench when this team is down 1-0 🤣

[@aitchjay6854]

Why just the Premier league era? United dominanted it for 20 years. So apart from 1 player possible 2 the rest would be all united. And I've been a Liverpool fan since 1980

[@honestmanutdfan603]

Because that marks the start of a new era and even all time man utd wins

[@jhaych]

Because it's easier as it's only been around for the last 30 years so most of us can remember the era etc, and it's the 30th year anniversary. Be unfair on players like law, best etc as barely anybody has seen them play.

[@jbedwa]

This was the best combined XI I’ve seen. Both lads know ball very well and it shows

[@ewanbird4370]

I like these two they both very fair and just normal like not deluded and can’t argue with the team honestly best one of this kinda them especially the Liverpool fan

[@tommysargent3069]

“Trent revolutionised the right back role” dani alves and numerous other full backs were doing it before he was

[@FatTodd]

Nah Trent's style is different. Alves locked off the whole right wing by himself because barca never lost the ball

[@mattyisfantastic]

But Trent has done it better

[@Johnster123.]

In terms of the Premier League..

[@Ashley_MG]

Did Dani Alves play in the Premier League?

[@FerdinandMutie]

@Hypolite Izerimana i love playing against Trent in Fifa.....shit ass defender but no cap Trent is a real G and i would to see him win more even as a United Fan

[@adamhart70]

These “all times” have lost meaning….because kenny or rush take that number 9 spot, barnes would get a strong mention, clemence in goal, come on now

[@olliewellstood1963]

This is based off premier league, should be stated in the title but it’s not. Otherwise you can consider players such as Bobby Charlton as well

[@Matt-fe6wu]

This is the premier league era

[@jhaych]

It was Premier league only, we'd then also have Chalton, best, law etc

[@Robert-ks5ix]

Football started in 92 remember

[@jamieraffan1519]

Combined Gk - Peter schmichel Lb - Denis Irwin Cb- Rio Ferdinand Cb- Virgil Van Dijk Rb - Trent Alexander Arnorld Cdm- Roy Keane Cm - Paul Scholes Cm - Steven Gerrard Lm - Ryan Giggs Rm - Cristiano Ronaldo St- Wayne Rooney

[@monkey271070]

I’m looking at this team and thinking it would get battered by Fergusons Man U team ….the Liverpool players they pick are seriously weakening the team…..no Giggs no van nistelrooy or cantona, no Neville….means we are weak in defence with Trent less goal threat without Giggs assists and a greedy right winger means a frustrated forward line will mean less team goals.

[@stuartabbott2307]

Salah has to take right wing spot over Beckham simply due to the fact it's a 4-3-3. In a 4-4-2, Beckham is the best right midfielder the premier league has seen. Beckham's football ability is so underrated by opposition fans.

[@trhoades2063]

Agreed,

[@LoyalGio]

Well said