Criminal Barrister On The Death Penalty, Defending Murderers, and UK Prisons | Minutes With

[@ladbiblestories]

Thank you to Jeremy Dein KC for taking part in this episode of Minutes With. Find out more about the work Jeremy does at: www.25bedfordrow.com/site/people/profile/jeremy.dein and www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-dein-kc-639385b5/?originalSubdomain=uk

[@Cold_Logic]

I have to commend the interviewer & prep team - those were fantastic questions 👏

[@cooswillemse7551]

Some very nice clear and sane words in a crazy world. I might not agree with him on some of the topics but this feels like a breath of fresh air compared to all the screaming going on at the moment.

[@tutalilly]

I can’t agree more. He really is a balm on this gaping wound of a world.

[@suzimonkey345]

💯💯💯

[@MaxBurke-h9e]

Amazing series this is keep the episodes coming 👍

[@AudeB87]

Prison is not only punishment, it's also to protect the rest of society.

[@rw2394]

It is, but almost all prison sentences come to an end. So the best way prisons can protect society is by reforming prisoners to not commit crimes again

[@BrianBorusNephew]

Except when it isn't. Except when the prisoner poses no threat to society. Which is the case often.

[@jugendmoth9741]

Protection of society should be re-education, rehabilitation and integration back in society. And maybe starting with free education and healthcare everywhere in the world. What definetly would lead for less crime.

[@GinaWelsh]

@@BrianBorusNephewSending people to prison for being a drug user for example. This is ridiculous, it’s a medical issue.

[@simonlee498]

You ever been prison ? .. if prison was punishment why do we have soo many repeat offenders? ... people will always adapt .. some people have a better life in prison . Food ..tv .. gym .. older consoles like ps1 . Your not protecting society eithier.. manslaughter is around 5 years .. pedos maybe 3 years .. gbh maybe 2 years . . The only time people do a big sentence if you hit the newspapers or news .

[@d.akerejola6165]

Interviewer cooked with her questions!

[@youllthankmelater]

What do you mean - that they were good questions or she did a bad job?

[@samuelgregson5336]

Like some of his comments. I do not understand how he can rationalise homicide cases based on the unfortunate background of his clients, yet cannot tolerate the same with racism, which is surely the same product of a lack of education / poor background / upbringing without strong role models?

[@letterfella]

I initially thought the same thing but I guess he's saying he just personally chooses not to take them on as clients, not that he condemns them entirely. Doesn't sound like he condemns anyone entirely if he's adamantly against the death sentence, which I am too.

[@scooby3029]

😊

[@TraderT33]

There might be an actual reason for the homicide. There is no reason for racism.

[@eschaton]

Everyone has hypocritical and contradictory views. I wont defend that, but least he recognizes that he cannot be objective enough to take on certain cases.

[@999dayslater]

It does seem slightly incongruous. If you're a victim of society you can't be evil, but if you're right wing (racist) you can. Only certain people have the privilege on context - some people are truly evil whereas context matters for others

[@jackreid3384]

I grew up with plenty of kids who didn’t have role models or guidance that didn’t turn to serious crime or murder.. it’s not an excuse. We make our own choices…

[@kb5509]

Nobody's saying it's an excuse genius, or that every single person without one will go down that road. Try applying a morsel of nuance.

[@Moncherelouis]

It’s an explanation not an excuse

[@bakerbaker4455]

well done you, do you want a medal?

[@stevenwest000]

It’s definitely an emotive topic

[@LegioWarhammer]

Exactly!

[@schizomonika]

the people getting angry that he opposes the death penalty are not listening to him and are proving his point.

[@zenpool5918]

@@schizomonika are you equating disagreeing with his ideas to not listening or proving the opposite point?

[@philipreid2542]

​@@zenpool5918it's pretty obvious most people's who disagree have just watched the first 20 seconds

[@jonathanm9436]

As a former barrister and solicitor my observations of people and the justice system (to the extent he discussed it) are identical. He provides valuable insights for those who are not intimate with the system.

[@ingriddavis1201]

Jeremy Dein, thank you for standing strong 🙏

[@andrewshepherd713]

Finally an actual balanced and real opinion on these matters

[@W00LFY100]

From a self declared lefty... yeah real balanced

[@andrewshepherd713]

@ why isn’t is a balanced opinion?

[@Adam-bk9hl]

Should get him and others with similar positive thinking and knowledge to lead a reform of the prison system in the UK

[@izzilarkins3949]

Hi, I do criminology and am yet to encounter anyone in my field who is in support of our current carceral model. There are plenty of experts who have been researching, publishing, and shouting about its flaws for decades, but no one in power wants to hear it - likely for fear of being labelled as "weak on crime" (as a lot of the comments here defending eye for an eye bullshit sadly demonstrate)

[@suzimonkey345]

Tax payers don’t want to spend they money needed. It’s not as warm & personal as the NHS etc

[@BBshark000]

@@izzilarkins3949Can you expound a little more on the said research from experts? Or perhaps can you point me towards some of these sources?

[@heaton5228]

Love these interviews thank you for posting

[@suzimonkey345]

❤

[@luna237]

Great insights and the show are really asking good questions!

[@North416]

Jeremy thank you for understanding human beings in a dark time

[@OldManRogers]

Sane, smart and articulate. Bravo learned mr Dein!!

[@zenpool5918]

This guy should spend less time listening to esoterics on morality and more time listening to the screams and tears and hysteria of victims and their families.

[@julesgro8526]

Justice has to be done with a clear mind and cold heart. That is why we have laws

[@amandaelynch1]

@@julesgro8526 That's really well said.

[@amandaelynch1]

Here's the thing. I completely understand your emotional view. But if you step back and look objectively at your point, if the justice system were to operate the way you are suggesting it should, then we would be living in a pre-enlightenment period again, where personal opinion, prejudices, and emotions rule the court instead of objectivity and rational arguments. It not a perfect system, but its a lot better than where we were hundreds of years ago

[@letterfella]

​@@amandaelynch1also really well said.

[@popcornfilms1]

@@amandaelynch1perfectly put

[@elliec7677]

It’s not a worse punishment in uk prisons where it’s cushy and they get proper treatment… send them to a South American prison or south Asian prison… that would be more like punishment

[@Jill-g5d]

In prison they have snooker tables, tellies, good meals I imagine. It is all laid on, why would they want to go anywhere else and all paid for by the taxpayers. Lovely jubbly.

[@MegaPatachon]

Serial killers, peds cannot be treated. Why keep them alive at the expense of tax payers?

[@Sam_KC_BMX]

And then corruption puts innocent individuals on an electric chair, what could be wrong with that?

[@MrsKhan0101]

What about child killers ?

[@MrsKhan0101]

@ I don’t want to believe this!

[@julesgro8526]

Prison for life, as stated.

[@suzimonkey345]

The vast majority aren’t “child” killers.

[@gamerboyx8243]

No capital punishment no matter how bad the time It is 2025 ffs

[@reecejones3187]

Capital punishment

[@nikkimae813]

I find him very interesting. There are lots of things that he said that I don't agree with but still interesting

[@Pepsymac]

Everyone deserves a point of view but so do the victims and there families.try telling the victims family’s that Ian Brady Mira hindly Angus Sinclair Peter Tobin should be pitied I don’t think so it’s a dangerous point of view

[@kittyprincess1629]

What about really heinously disgusting crimes and murders like the "Junko Furuta" case. Would it matter what background they came from then?

[@ITSupport-q1y]

Very interesting, thanks for this.

[@SuperStrutt]

This is the first time I’ve watched anything on lad bible and absolutely hated it. Making out that the aggressor as the victim is complete nonsense. If you lose a loved one at the hands of someone else all you want is the absolute worst punishment known to man to be put on them.

[@TheAcidFairy1998]

I have to disagree. As someone who has lost someone due to the hands of someone else, I never wished them death nor ill will. Yes they deserve punishment and should be held accountable, but they also should be allowed the chance to rehabilitate. I have my reasonings, and I think it differs from person to person as we all grieve differently and the concept of closure is different for everyone as well. And there are alot of people who agree with. But I understand there are also people who wont agree, and thats ok. Just because people do bad things, doesnt mean they inherently are a bad person.

[@stevenwest000]

There are definitely some emotive topics that are approached on this channel, but it never really sides with any one opinion. This is definitely one of those videos, but I do enjoy the format of it (I mean the channel as a whole and not this particular subject).

[@200milesaway6]

The police/CPS have, for the last 20 years, assisted this concept by redefining who the perpetrator and victim are. Consider the burglar who fell through the rooflight onto some knives left on the kitchen counter(he was injured). The homeowner called the police. The burglar had experience in the justice system and experienced solicitors so the police/CPS decided that it would be easier to get a conviction against the homeowner for essentially leaving an unsafe situation that the burglar might happen upon.

[@cdechirume2979]

Nice ears😢

[@charlizerabie8505]

I love this channel. Keep giving us these amazing stories ❤

[@bossykangaroo]

He says that repeat offenders of crimes of dishonesty (I’m assuming that to be shoplifting, mugging, fraud) are “not a threat to society”. 🤔 They might not be violent, but they certainly are a menace to society and shouldn’t be out and about, causing more pain and fear to ordinary, law abiding citizens.

[@spoof1992]

Most people that are commiting these offences are people who have addiction issues and as someone who has worked with a lot of these people, a lot of them come from incredibly traumatic upbringings. These people dont just decide to try heroin one day. The issue in my opinion is that drug addiction is seen as a moral issue and not a medical one. These people need help, they arent getting the help and so the offending continues.

[@katrinakollmann5265]

I love this guy.. ♡ hes what I would be if i could be a lawyer.

[@bobstar6837]

Say that to the families who lost their loved ones to murder. Leftie lunacy!

[@cherry20106]

Ultimately he defends people that are guilty of serious crimes which could see them acquitted and back on the streets.

[@rowangillard3136]

No, he defends people who are charged with serious crimes, innocent until proven guilty (which, in our country happens in a court and with a jury). It is a hallmark of our judicial system that both parties (both defendant and state) should be represented by advocates of similar abilities so that both can have their version of events put to the court.

[@philipreid2542]

If you're ever accused of a serious crime, will make sure to let the barristers know not to bother defending you 👍

[@jonathanm9436]

He is right when he says that people's criticisms of his job are to often based on ignorance. Even you question implies that defendants are brought to court because they are guilty and therefore should not be defended. Take a moment to read something good on the criminal justice process in the UK or Australia to obtain a basic understanding.

[@suzimonkey345]

Thank you!

[@jamielankshear6399]

Well done Jeremy dein honest and caring 👍

[@redders3487]

It appears to me that this Barrister feels that there is no role for punishment for those who commit crimes and that everything is the result of people's environment and circumstance but never down to personal responsibility or choice. Surely anyone sentenced for a crime has been judged and this is an important function of society so to ask no one to ever judge would lead to a complete lawless and reckless society. Is it not the attitude of many who demand and expect that no one judges them that causes so many issues in society and allows people to try to act with an expectation of impunity?

[@nickjoyce1405]

You are right - but I suspect his point is more that the tendency of policy prioritise punishment does more harm in the long run. Chris Daw QC wrote a book on the subject.

[@NameSurname-p3r]

Imprisonment for life is not actually a punishment now, more like free bed and board.

[@TheRasteri]

it keeps them out of society, that's the whole point

[@suchasin]

@@TheRasteri But the risk that they get out somehow remains

[@rawpuddins]

that’s ignorance, friend.

[@williamblack7400]

But nothing to do except face up to yourself

[@keithadams1538]

Human beings bringing the life of another human being to an end is beyond his comprehension. So what the F is he defending murderers for.

[@PLC11]

1) everyone is innocent UNTIL proven guilty 2) there are a plethora of cases all around the world of convicted people having their convictions overturned because they were FALSEY imprisoned 3) he said that statement in the context of executions/death penalty. I swear people these days have zero comprehension skills

[@jose-Maki]

​@PLC11 these days with dna and what is required to charge someone, it's like 99% certain they got the right guy.

[@70kg589]

So we should send people to jail as soon as they’re arrested for however long - because it’s ‘99% certain’? 🤦‍♂️

[@keithadams1538]

@ Something wrong with you? He said what I wrote. There is no context only in your mind

[@keithadams1538]

@@70kg589 The statement he made was personal to him. He cannot speak for all barristers can he?

[@MsCarrieGirl]

Miscommunications and misunderstandings are the main causes of problems between people. So there lies the solutions.

[@22Purplemist]

Thank you for sharing 💜

[@FIONAMACE-xo7jp]

I love this man

[@stefan2serb]

Listen mate if life in prison was worse than the death penalty then you wouldn’t get nearly every single person on death row in America exhausting every single possible appeal to commute their sentence to life without parole before they are executed. Simple.

[@kartaiss]

What a cool guy!

[@matt00729]

That’s a very good question

[@kellyk209]

You say you are against the death penalty yet you think life in prison is worse, haven’t you just, justified the case for it. I am and always will be for it, in some cases and that would be when it involves children.

[@BeeEatingOrchid]

Exactly my thought when I heard him say that. He's a hypocrite.

[@tutalilly]

There should be a level of imprisonment above a life sentence, with appropriate punitive standards, with no death penalty. A sentence of the barest degree, enough to survive but not enough to be comfortable or content.

[@benhart777]

Totally agree. At the moment prison is like a one size fits all approach. I think we should have “penitentiaries” with a Japanese style regime; almost military, with very strict rules, no talking, single file lines, head bowed at all times, hard labour; for serious or violent or sexual offences. On the other hand, for lesser crimes, a Norwegian style system with a focus on rehabilitation

[@MellowBellow1]

Some people can’t be fixed and need to be kept away from people they will continue to harm.

[@AltitudeOdyssey]

Agree with some. But to say the death penalty is so egregious, while defending those who killed others is wild to me.

[@JacobAaron97]

It is a bit of a moral conundrum that he seems to not come to terms with. Especially with the only people he won’t defend being anti semites. It’s a bit of a strange ethical prioritization he has. But that’s his right. I do agree with much of what he said

[@elliottrichardson8213]

Exactly this man has more concern for keeping the convict safe and happy as opposed to giving real justice to the victim and victims family members

[@harrybakesXD]

Everyone deserves defence even murderers. The state should have a high standard to prove these things. But also the state does make mistakes and the death penalty is not worth it in a world where the state could send an innocent person to death

[@JacobAaron97]

@ don’t disagree

[@victorcapelo2840]

@@elliottrichardson8213 all convicts should absolutely be safe no matter what they did. You don't provide justice by mistreating convicts.

[@haz1bro690]

If imprisonment for life is a worse punishment than the death penalty anyway, why are you against it?

[@22Purplemist]

He explained why

[@philipreid2542]

Try watching more than the first 20 seconds, and he'll explain why

[@diggerlenny4836]

Always wonder with people like this what he would say if the purge came thru his front door and ended his nice family. "Youre not a bad person" stay for tea" Makes zero sense

[@stephanschleim]

Impressive! Thanks, we need more people like this gentleman.

[@michellewillems4416]

I feel the same about the death penalty

[@stevenwest000]

I have mixed feelings tbh, and I can see both views.

[@Blighty4eva]

why do they call it life? its not even life most of the time. Why call it life when they set a minimum term? Thats not life

[@kirstenwright1974]

25 years is life here

[@fatherted2948]

Why on earth would you want to pay for the Board and Keep for the Nerxt 30 years for a Murderer, i can never understand that,, BUT as long as there has to ne no Doubt about guilt

[@ellavateify]

I don’t know. I don’t think you would feel so sympathetic towards the perpetrators if it was your family member they murdered

[@AlexDuggan68]

Getting paid five hundred pounds a day helps.

[@Melsharpe95]

But look how you have to earn it. "So Mr. Parker, can you explain why you deserve a lesser sentence for chopping up your wife and feeding her to the dog?"

[@Brans8]

Im sure he gets far more than 500 quid a day

[@philipreid2542]

Sounds like someone's jealous

[@jorgec.a3123]

Death penalty is not supposed to be a punishment, it's meant to be house cleaning.

[@philipreid2542]

It appears that simple-minded people have invaded this comment section

[@magstheonlyone]

Very good questions

[@DustinLittlefield]

But it’s ok for them to kill other and be able to live in prison while the family’s are left to suffer? I understand they’re humans but they didn’t have the say thoughts when they killed others or children. If someone killed your spouse or child you’d be OK with them left to live their life whether it’s confined or not?

[@zenpool5918]

"Human kind can not gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain something of equal value must be lost. That is Alchemy's first law of equivalent exchange."

[@jules.b5141]

I don’t know if my opinion would be different if it were one of mine taken, but at this juncture my opinion is that I would feel ok that they got life in prison. I don’t feel that what is essentially legal murder is the answer. It’s still murder. But I do respect other people’s belief in the death penalty.

[@rigajykra3159]

We are talking about the long term solution. It is a terrible thing, and my condolences to anyone who has had to be the victim of this. I guarantee you, as difficult as it is, we must move away from this concept of punishing evil, with evil. It will change nothing. We must tackle these things with compassion. This doesn’t mean disregarding the victim family and catering to the killers every need, but the means to rehabilitate this person. We must meet evil with powerful compassion, that is the only thing that will change. Violent video games and violent music and movies are probably the biggest influencer upon violent behaviour especially in the first world. A child’s brain is an incredibly susceptible thing, when they play a simulation where you are literally shooting someone - the subconscious does not know the difference. Video games are programming young brains to k1ll. Throw some gangster music ontop, and violent movies with gore and you have a brain hearing towards Instinctual violence.

[@TheAcidFairy1998]

As someone who lost their best friend in this way, I am totally against the death penalty. Not in the current state the judicial system is. I would rather see investment go into rehabilition and fixing our prison and judicial system. The death penalty is expensive, more expensive than life in prison. That money should be put towards creating something more positive. People do terrible things sometimes, it doesnt mean they are inherently a terrible person. Two wrongs never make a right and there are plenty of studies out there showing that the death penalty does not act as a form of closure.

[@Bob-qw3bm]

I dont really agree with his message that muderers are fundamentally victims we should feel sorry for. I get they have a back story but there is no explaining away why you've killed someone

[@PhilRock889]

What a very strange thing to say. "I defend killers " really .What happened to the persumption of innocence.

[@philipreid2542]

1. he clearly doesn't choose the thumbnail 2. it clearly means he defends people who are then convicted of murder

[@Jill-g5d]

I'll tell you something if it was your baby great grandson would you feel kindly disposed to monsters like that, If so you could not care much about the child. The way I see it is that you do the crime you do the time. These 2 kids got away with murder and horrendous murder of a little tiny boy who deserved to have a life. Those 2 kids have a life and they are protected by the justice system and given new identities and believe me there are many people who would have a very big problem with them.

[@hawwmann7032]

Upbringing? I've never had a father or figure. Any man my mum had, beat me up. I have all those hall marks for a killer. I'm not. My sister did say to me, you changed the way most people end up. That's a fraction

[@JacobAaron97]

I agree with much of what he said. But to say the death penalty is insane because it’s taking another human life, while defending murderers, while only refusing to defend an antisemitic person of all people, is a strange type of moral prioritization he’s doing. But, that’s his right. Just an observation. That being said, I do like a lot of what he said.

[@Cravendale98]

In a perfect system where everything works flawlessly I would support it hands down, like how could you not? But we don't have such a system and I'm not sure I could trust the government or legal system to not get things wrong.

[@victorcapelo2840]

Even in a perfect system, I would not support it. The answer is simple if you believe in human rights.

[@dannyquinn9128]

Because you typed the word "like", your opinion can't be taken seriously.

[@Cravendale98]

@@dannyquinn9128 Grow up

[@Cravendale98]

@@victorcapelo2840 I think some people give up their rights when they commit the most heinous acts.

[@dannyquinn9128]

@@Cravendale98 Please explain what the word "like" enhances your comment.

[@Simon42102]

You can’t punish murder with murder, it’s the same crime.

[@lewis93156]

One person decided to take life with malitious, concious intentions, destroying many INNOCENT lives which you would NEVER want to personally experience. The other is reprimanding the person that commited those crimes for the sake of the public's safety and justice to the innocent. They are not the same thing.

[@AvtarDhillon]

Good man Like him Good views Compassion

[@reecejones3187]

The people he defends don’t deserve compassion

[@katoness]

Compassion should be for the innocent victims.

[@sketchyryder4430]

I honestly don’t understand how people can be against the death penalty. For example the Southport killer who killed them poor defenceless young girls even going as far as to stabbing one of them 80+ times 😞 those young girls lives ended so brutally their family’s will forever grieve and be broken but that killer will be waking every day breathing fresh air, hearing birds tweet in the morning, eating food and growing old even if it’s behind bars paid for by us tax payers money it’s is not deserved. In no way shape or form do these kind of people contribute to our society or earth at all.

[@flames9027]

Eye for a eye , tooth for a tooth is fair .

[@metalchickenproductions332]

Eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. Eventually all shall be punished by such a metric. Judge not lest ye be judged first

[@jules.b5141]

@@metalchickenproductions332 Very well said! Thanks for the comment.

[@throughthewoods416]

That's a ridiculous argument. Doing something to someone they've done to others makes no sense - otherwise where does it end?

[@FarhanAli-qo9we]

No two eyes for an eye makes the whole world blind

[@jules.b5141]

@@FarhanAli-qo9we I think the analogy went over your head.

[@sensemaya1]

Even if found guilty of murder you can go straight to a medium secure hospital.

[@ilovepinkroses5167]

When the power goes out the prisoners will get out of prison. Then what, you only have yourself to blame because you are responsible for their new victims.

[@phichau90]

UK needs to bring the death sentence back

[@tedlogan-v7s]

they wont because of howls of 'disproportionate executions'

[@lp14444]

How can you teach a country that killing is wrong but killing those same people? It doesn’t make sense

[@Melsharpe95]

@@tedlogan-v7s And the many wrongful convictions.

[@carmencita.k]

It always makes me wonder,how we arrive at our views,I personally couldn't defend a murderer,even though I know someone has to, because the 'defence' barrister still has to stand there and basically try and paint his/her client as a redeemable person,which I imagine is no easy task,but still I don't see how that sits well 😮

[@LBosha08]

My view on prison is that while it can be classed as punishment, it is also about rehabilitation. Some people can be reformed but there are many which cannot. Psychiatric and psychological treatments are not an endless resource and those who dont commit crimes deserve priority. Where does that leave us? When the threshold of evidence is high enough - which will be case by case - there is still a place for the death penalty in todays world.

[@stefan2serb]

100% for extreme cases

[@gwyneth7812]

Cripes, i wish i good find a decent legal person like this to defend me from other legal people!!!!!

[@BeeEatingOrchid]

You lost me from the start. You claim there's no place in modern civilisation for the death penalty, and then claim that life in prison is worse. Ok. So you're proposing something worse so that we can remain civil... What?? You're a contradiction.

[@blowfold1]

Definitely a proper lefty this guy.

[@TubbyBrewster11]

Well he’s educated so that would follow.

[@gossipmongersaunt774]

James OBrien type who would probably rather defend someone if they killed a relative than condone them

[@cortex8236]

@@gossipmongersaunt774 Does James O Brien offend you with the big words he uses regularly?

[@karinag4227]

"conflict of interest"... Ok

[@mikesmithz]

Maybe I'm just a bit more logical about it. If it is 100% certain that the person committed a death penalty worthy crime, then what is the point of keeping them in jail? They are never allowed out, so what is the point of spending tax money keeping them alive?

[@jordkinsmith3588]

Well they would say “a human never has the right to condemn another human to death/ to kill them”. But then they’ll ask us to kill the enemy when they start one of their wars. So there’s no moral consistency

[@libbyhyett6625]

What about the people who died? Get a grip mate

[@SquizzMe]

Morality is totally subjective after all. You could make a moral case from any perspective.

[@johnnymism]

His first sentence also exactly applies to abortion.

[@fsociety.dat101]

Whilst I agree with his point of view regarding capital punishment, I find it ironic that he views it as "outdated and barbaric" when the same can be said for all religions.

[@carlsherwin5557]

That Southport monsters an exception

[@diggerlenny4836]

There's many exceptions

[@martinblackbird543]

This guy gets very caught up in Factors, he seems to have very little time for the Fact, the Fact being an innocent life or lives have been ended, and subsequently the victims families and friends lives, have, to some degree, been ended, whatever gets him through the day though

[@projectnightfall3251]

Yet you’ll defend the person who ended someone else’s life in and even worse way then them getting executed for there crime makes sense 🤨

[@Its.all.a.game.m8]

I think that need a follow up question on prisons and punishment. If it’s not fit for purpose what deterrents should be used? A simple slap on the wrist and “ don’t do that again “ doesn’t serve justice for the victims or society.

[@dsgrbrowne1]

This guy doesnt think that some people stab and kill people to get free help and housing. There is no funding for young people to deter them to not join a gang or shoplift....there are no consequences for their actions.

[@dannyquinn9128]

Can you give an example of a person who has been given a free house for stabbing people?

[@thingstodoinguernseychannel]

The thing is this bloke is also a top barrister and most probably him and I can't remember her name but they are top barristers in the UK don't forget he has seen miscarriages of Justice by death penalty and has had some of them overturned

[@28gold28]

Hmmmm would he defend axel rudakubana.....

[@banksy3169]

I don't know what evil means. Wow

[@BuDDa100]

Love the stories on this channel but I can't get behind what this guy is saying. Defending killers is just not something I agree with.

[@dannyquinn9128]

Everybody is entitled to representation, or we'll end up living in a banana republic.

[@BuDDa100]

@dannyquinn9128 we are already living in one. I do not believe that killers, for example that guy that stabbed those little girls on a birthday party few months back deserved a representation, how can he.be rehabilitated after that.and why would we give him that chance? Money that would go for his wellbeing in prison could.be spent.better.

[@josediaz-ortega6405]

Does this guy know how much tax payers pay a day to keep someone in prison?

[@ReyOfLight]

Less for someone who's sentenced to life or many years in prison, vs having someone on death row. The death penalty is a lot more costly for tax payers.

[@josediaz-ortega6405]

@@ReyOfLight last time I checked a bullet was only 25 cents for 9mm….i don’t agree with keeping them on death row for years. That goes to my point

[@lewishawkes3924]

Ran straight to the comments 😂

[@fsociety.dat101]

Different times where you walk around asking for an opportunity, lol.

[@cianpower5205]

Isn't his kid that famous magician..

[@splinterbyrd]

He also defends Tommy Robinson

[@seanshatters]

and ?

[@splinterbyrd]

@seanshatters just sayin'

[@philipreid2542]

Defending him against a 13 month sentence for contempt of court. You people really need to learn to research

[@christopherfarish4965]

Umm… a lot of people will kill, even behind bars, knowing that the worst they will get is “life”. Removal of the death penalty is not a good thing.

[@victorcapelo2840]

This is not true. Harsh punishment do not prevent crime - this is quite common knowledge in the field. Also countries with the death penalty do not have less crime than countries without it.

[@salimabdulaziz4417]

He’s just waffling saying nonsense trying to justify what he does. Just say that’s what you want to do and move on

[@suzimonkey345]

🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹

[@gamerboyx8243]

There is a perfect solution for people who want capital punishment and do not respect the UK's modern democracy, human rights, freedom, endless opportunities but most importantly, our civilised justice system: Please leave🛫

[@theflamingoparty6680]

Didn't know that's whay they called lawyers