Lake Road Cramahe Township House Fire December 15, 2023

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[@JohnMurray-x7b]

That was my childhood home. My dad built it when i was a child. And when I was a teen we built the deck on the back. It's sad to see it go. alot of memories there 😥😥. I feel bad for the family that lost there home. And I'm glad no one was hurt.

[@avontaprice2]

sorry 2 here that😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@ptodd5373]

Thank you for the video. It brought back memories and made my mom cry. I took my first steps in the house.

[@ericweiler6571]

This is exactly why you keep a collapse perimeter on burning houses with brick veneer. What a lot of people don't understand is, brick is ornamental (unless it's structural brick-but this is not the case here) and it poses more potential harm than good for firefighters. Brick is attached to the structure by a back up wall which is almost always wood studs on residential buildings. Once the wooden studs burn, they fail structurally and the building collapses. Great job by this fire dept

[@Jim-jh9bd]

great house I built it 35 years ago

[@elizabethgeorgia8286]

Prayers for the family

[@DukeCronenwerth]

The Fire should definitely have been left burning. The House was already irreparably lost

[@davidcarroll829]

Garage was last I saw to go and no hoses on it at all, they did let it burn !

[@mattcrossfield3528]

My thoughts and prayers go out to those poor family. I hope the Good Lord watches over them and they are able to rebuild. Very sad. 😢

[@lawlessjff]

Not only a rural fire, but no tanker support? Then grass fires to boot. Bad set of circumstances all the way around

[@greyman686]

They have plenty of tankers.

[@hopeindarktimes]

I am curious and have no knowledge: why do they always use a narrow stream with the water and never a spray?

[@edloeffler9769]

They did a hell of a lot of firefighting with just two people. Unfortunately, there was nothing to save when they arrived. This appears to be a rural fire district where manpower is EXTREMELY light.

[@johncahill7347]

I'd agree it's probably a rural department with need of mutual aid. Fire got away from them and appears they just let it burn itself most of the way. Very sad for the families total loss

[@grandinosour]

It also appears they had a lack of water.

[@repairmanjoe8081]

Um, the lake??😮

[@markmullin4246]

Also appears firefighters have lack luster attitudes. Our volunteer little fire department actually hustles! These ppl shouldn't be called firefighters 😢

[@greyman686]

@@markmullin4246 That house was coming down one way or another whether it collapsed or was taken down by excavator.

[@erickaegi629]

Glad to see everyone is safe. Sad shame the firefighters did a hell of a job with what they had. Any cause?

[@Marrio49]

Holy moly, that is some fire

[@Bigbluehawk2]

Wonder if they heard of 2 1/2” lines and deck guns? Great foundation save.

[@jonboogy]

Those are only good if you have a good water supply.

[@Lona1964able]

So sad, happy that everyone was safe

[@marksellinger3736]

How does someone get insurance for a home when there is no source of water, etc.

[@uncledadcan]

There is a lake about a half km from the house. Lots of water there.

[@kbittorf335]

Back in the day here, rural communities would form their own insurance companies because insurance was otherwise unavailable.

[@kimberlyboysza4954]

There is nothing worse than a fire. My prayers are with this family.

[@RLTtizME]

Floods are worse than fires. I worked Hurricane Katrina for 3 months.

[@larrytaylor8094]

Praying for family.

[@alanchandler254]

Watching this they seemed to have the fire under control at the start, then seemed to just stop and watch it burn. Seems time that building regulations were tightened to make the use of less flammable materials mandatory. The men did the best they could in the circumstances , and no one was hurt.

[@lisareed6854]

Sadly it's was too late to save

[@greyman686]

They had it under control? Not sure what you're watching but there's fire blowing out pretty well every door and window of the front side and it's in the attic. That fire had one ending, coming down whether it collapses or the excavator does it.

[@jamesgibbons6292]

We seemed to have missed a piece of the fight. It went grom big fire to hardly any fire.

[@RichardThornton-i4f]

Why wasn't several deck guns as well as several areial ladder trucks dispatched on this one they may have been able to save the garage and part of the house as well as it's always better to bring back up trucks like I mentioned before to solve this problem quickly

[@johnwashburn7423]

That had to have gotten quite a head start

[@rj-yy2gm]

This is the direct result of people nowadays not wanting to be firefighters whether it be career or volunteer. VFD's are already struggling to retain people as the one's still around are past their prime. Even career departments are struggling to recruit. It's also the result of people not wanting to shell out more in tax dollars to fund adequate fire service and water infrastructure.

[@greyman686]

Volunteer departments yes but I can't think of many, if any, career or composite FD's struggling to find to new bodies when positions open. A smaller community, with a composite dept I was a member of until I moved, had close to 30 people write their most recent test for one position. 7 24 hour shifts a month, start at mid to high 70's and making 100K a year, easily, within 3 to 4 years on, plenty of OT if you want it and some smaller communities have good setups for call-backs that can help, quite easily for the member, rack up the extra dough.

[@avontaprice2]

WOOOOOOOOOW😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

[@davidcarroll829]

Wow house was really crispy to go up that fast !😮

[@marlomontanaro3233]

I dunno... I see a complete lack of firefighting. Did they have water supply issues? Cause even if the structure can't be saved, I thought the job was still to put out the fire. And it looks like here, the plan was to let it burn itself out.

[@RLTtizME]

You sure dug deep to come up with your ridiculous criticism.

[@GunillaRasmusson]

Controled burn?

[@claudiaf398]

You can tell it's a newer house. There as so much smoke and it went up so fast. I'm sorry for the family. Awful.

[@suzylarry1]

That's a sad event to see . I hope all were out when this started and find a new place for the holidays

[@jerryevans7040]

why isn't any water on the rear of the structure.

[@hopeindarktimes]

Did they just let this one burn?

[@bigdoorcontrolguy2232]

nice job foundation savers!

[@jackburgess9482]

I don't see you out there volunteering, if you think it's so easy you should give it a try! Most likely these guy's are doing it for free, taking time away from their families, paying for their own gas to get to the station, missing holidays and birthdays and probably working a full time job too, all to help their neighbors and a$$holes like you!

[@buzzmeachum1855]

The same type of beautifull, isolated homes are scattered throughout this area of Central Pennsylvania. In general we have excellent volunteer companies with an efficient box alarm system for mutual aid. But as a 20 year retired firefighter I’ve never been able to understand what homeowners who build 20 minutes away from emergency services expect in the way of help for this type of disaster. Same for ambulance service. I usually thought of them as having a kiss your ass goodbye address….😢

[@RLTtizME]

Imagine what his property (fire) insurance costs must be.

[@RLTtizME]

@@mellowoutman4516 We'll send a therapist your way...hold on.

[@edhauenstein1835]

Exactly right.

[@williamkauffman8898]

I used to live in a very large city of several million and now live in a town of less than 1000. I have no interest in moving back to a large populated area where the services are at your fingertips. I now live a real America instead of the Zoo. Enjoy the Zoo!

[@RM-od6hg]

What we doing??? Looks like that propane tank migh be getting a little warm if there is propane in it, I wa sure at some point the start of the video they would force open the gargae door and at least maybe save the gargae area

[@dmullen68]

Im shaking my head why is there a fire company if you refuse to put water on it 😮😢😢

[@jamesgibbons6292]

They literally watched it burn down. I know it was already loss but they had charged lines just laying on the ground around them.

[@jimwinsor8938]

Looks like below a lot people connected at one time or another to this house!!!

[@rkj4107]

Bummer. Rough day at the firehouse.

[@smokechecktim7430]

Isolated location with no water source. Not much you can do

[@kenallred2215]

Who called the foundation savers? Y’all shoulda called the fire dept they might have saved something. 4 lines stretched and they just decided that water no longer fights a fire.

[@greyman686]

What difference would it make? What would they salvage out of it? Nothing. The fire was blowing out of pretty much every window, its getting torn down anyway.

[@IfmynameisPaul]

Get these guys some smoothbores

[@tamifox]

Was the house empty? Where are the owners? Poor people.

[@dongelinas5990]

How does something like this go up so fast

[@lisareed6854]

It's take 3 miss to a room to reach flashover and it don't take long to destroy the home

[@lisareed6854]

​@@janetclark3557it take 3 min to reach flashover in one room so within 10 mins the home is a loss

[@jimwinsor8938]

My thoughts exactly no one seems concerned to safe the structure.

[@ffjsb]

First line they should've pulled should've been a 2 1/2".

[@petefisher2426]

Would it matter?

[@ffjsb]

@@petefisher2426 Yes. Because Gallons Per Minute (GPM's) is what puts out fires. You have to apply enough water to overcome the BTU's being produced by the fire, otherwise it just evaporates the water.

[@avontaprice2]

i seen barns on fire & it be fallling apart like that but 🚫 a house.

[@helenschneider9926]

Keep an eye on that propane tank. Kaboom!

[@cidbozek69]

Should have been a line on that before the house. The house was already gone when they arrived.

[@jjaagg5050]

This looks like a training fire.

[@JoeMama3006-7MM]

i was thinking the same

[@HAVOC_26]

​@@JoeMama3006-7MMit's not a training fire a family of 5 was left homeless by the fire...GOOGLE it.

[@JoeMama3006-7MM]

@@HAVOC_26 wasn't being smart the way you can see inside the bldg thru the stair walls looked like it was being rehabbed I am sorry for their loss

[@KylesRV]

Read the description and click the news link. It was not training.

[@JoeMama3006-7MM]

@@KylesRV thank you I will sleep good tonight

[@Matt-mo8sl]

Sucks losing a home to fire. Been there done that.

[@lisareed6854]

Mee too lost everything 😢

[@mikep4546]

Was this a controlled burn Because if it wasn’t…..

[@greyman686]

If they rolled up and it was blowing out every window, what difference does it make? It's getting torn down regardless.

[@andygilbertson8925]

Looks like my Fire Department! The Foundation Savers, New trucks and no balls!

[@Maguire-om9zd]

You can get smoke and heat detectors that are monitored through your telephone line or cell which will send out an alarm to multiple contacts like the owner and neighbour and authorities. It's very strange that some people seem to be callously blaming the victim for living in the beautiful countryside.

[@DeanVance-b9q]

I don't understand what's wrong with that fire department or any of it when it couldn't save that house a long time ago. It put bottle on trucks for reason

[@greyman686]

What?

[@robinblitz5213]

Nobody hurt houses can be replaced people can't sad though

[@jjaagg5050]

Guess it wasn't. So sorry for the family.

[@raycosman824]

Bet fire insurance is high there.

[@robertgroover3316]

I'm confused. Are fire fighters supposed to fight fires or just stand around and watch it burn?

[@jasonripley2379]

Looks like defensive fire conditions on arrival. The best firefighters in the world couldn’t have made a difference on that one. Way too far gone on arrival.

[@rogerdehaven5603]

Your just uneducated on the matter.

[@robertgroover3316]

@rogerdehaven5603 all I see are people standing around.

[@rogerdehaven5603]

@@robertgroover3316 NO manpower, very little water and there wasn't anything to safe. Wasn't no need in the handful of volunteers there busting there ass to save nothing. Those are the reasons.

[@bryandixon2493]

Something like that all you can do defense defense defense defense. There's nothing there to save

[@lisareed6854]

I cant believe they let it burn to the ground when first shown the house hadnt collapsed maybe they should fight it from when they arrived and kept putting it out

[@greyman686]

Here's what would have happened. They would have put it out, then an excavator would come tear it down. So whether it collapses during the fire or after, it's isn't making one lick of difference.

[@joemoore8054]

Nice job guys...LOL

[@randolphguevara438]

Must be a very rural area. I've never seen a fire video where there were comments from people that actually built the house. Not a nice thing to watch. Im sorry.

[@Backnine907]

My bet, fire was set and accelerate was used.

[@IfmynameisPaul]

Yeah, it was completely gutted on the inside and the roof was still intact. Very odd.

[@rhacker3058]

Nice Job Guy's, You Were Able To Save The Basement!!!! Oh, You Made A Built In Swimming Pool!!!! Later MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

[@marksellinger3736]

Its ok. They are Canadian.

[@RLTtizME]

We have never heard that before. You are very creative.

[@greyman686]

Given what the conditions are at the start, the basement was all that was going to be left anyway. That place was coming down either by collapse or excavator.

[@greyman686]

@@marksellinger3736 Yea, American's never fuck up fire scenes....

[@marksellinger3736]

@@greyman686 please see your doctor as your funny bone isn't working. It'll be 3 years because of socialized medicine, but keeping good thoughts for you

[@Jim-jh9bd]

remember buying that land 37 years ago great home I built and lots of happy times . Sure wish they had left the pool in

[@helenevilleneuve4567]

Triste!

[@kennethschroeder2789]

This effort made no difference. Have yet to see a fire where hosing it had any measurable effect. Same outcome regardless.

[@mjvanderweg9969]

Sad

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[@thomaswilliamson5951]

Where's the tower truck ?, don't they have one that would have helped out alot wouldn't it just saying .

[@petefisher2426]

Not many rural have tower trucks and if it’s through the roof the house is done anyway. And to have a tower truck would require a lot of water and there were no hydrants here

[@mtvjackass74]

I guess no hydrants??

[@RLTtizME]

Does it look that way to you? Good guess.

[@mtvjackass74]

@@RLTtizME it was sarcasm…….

[@RLTtizME]

@@mtvjackass74 Highly obscure in light of the other commentary here.

[@infantryman116]

Garbage firefighting. Just gonna stand there and not do nothing? A joke

[@transilvanischervampir666]

🧐🫣

[@dwightr8590]

With all those hoses deployed, apparently water supply wasn’t an issue, so why wasn’t a Deck Gun utilized…❓

[@RLTtizME]

You post this on every single video. Apparently this is all you know.

[@rogerdehaven5603]

Deckgun would waste the little water they have in a few minutes

[@blue4uable]

You can see how intense the fire is,looks like arson 😢

[@trainmaster0217]

Too much zooming in and out.

[@robertnelson432]

Why bother.

[@terrydougherty7078]

Save the basement

[@RLTtizME]

🪠🪠

[@williamhutchinson6879]

Straight stream? Really?

[@RLTtizME]

Still having issues with your prostate Billie?

[@greyman686]

Does the stream really matter when it's blowing out pretty well every opening? Not one bit.

[@Goober10584]

This is what happens when you have volunteer departments. You get what you pay for....which is nothing!

[@davidbanks8917]

Wrong. This is what happens when citizens magically want their rural homes protected from fire but don't want to pay the taxes for a career department, and then don't want to bother joining the volunteer fire department (even though they are paying municipal fire levy), so the VFD ends up trying to do the best they can. A fire call on a weekday, when many VFFs have commuted to work miles away, can mean very little manpower for a call. The chief officer and the two FFs did the best they could.

[@Goober10584]

that's what my comment said? That town/city doesn't want to pay for career firefighters so this is the result. @@davidbanks8917

[@arthurlovell7575]

propane tank would have went boom

[@nickbeckham14]

That's a sorry fore department they let that whole big ass house burn straight to the ground while they all just sat back and watched it, shit might as well of pulled up some chairs and started telling fire stories

[@johnwashburn7423]

I would rather live in a rural area than a city with an over-paid fire department. Have adequate insurance and an abundance or early warning and common sense about any heat generating appliances. You will lose your house and memorabilia but you will live and re-build. That risk is worth it to me.

[@susanmcguire3442]

As you’re running out of your house, firefighters are going in. Overpaid?! I don’t think so.

[@johnwashburn7423]

@@susanmcguire3442 oh I do. It is their PAID job to do that and most would not if not PAID. Feel free to live in a “high tax city” with your over-paid heroes. I am glad I don’t. See? We both get to live our choices. How cool is that!

[@gondoravalon7540]

@@johnwashburn7423 Or, maybe higher taxes aren't just from paying firefighters?

[@johnwashburn7423]

@@gondoravalon7540 of course not. Government is fraught with waste and bad contract negotiation but I was a paid firefighter fir several years. What a scam

[@swamprat69er]

Of all the negative comments from the armchair firefighters the only question is WHAT CAUSED IT to begin with? As for FF standing around, there is not too much you can do when the fire is already through the roof. The house is toast (no pun intended). Of the armchair firefighters, if you can do any better, then join a volunteer fire department and get to work!

[@jeremysmith4334]

Such a sad thing to have happen. But what really bothers me is while a family is losing everything right before the holidays, Pete is right there riding some high with his camera. You are a selfish individual who needs to stop doing shit like this. Just a siren chaser. How would you feel if this was your house and someone was taking pictures to turn a profit. Truly pathetic.

[@saywhat3425]

Omg. Yawn dude. It's called news. I'm sure the family will appreciate the coverage to get the word out and donations in.

[@petefisher2426]

Sure is wild how news works eh Jeremy. You sure must be busy emailing every news outlet that covers fires. Which - is every news outlet.

[@jeremysmith4334]

@@petefisher2426 it's okay Pete. I know you don't have an ethical or compassionate bone in your body. Anything for the headline.

[@jeremysmith4334]

@@saywhat3425 if that's the case then where is Pete's interview with the home owners thanking him for the coverage and asking and thanking in advance the public for the generous donations. What if maybe the family wants privacy? Is news more important than having a little bit of compassion?

[@petefisher2426]

@@jeremysmith4334 it’s ok Jeremy I know it must be tough for you not knowing how news is covered. It’s all good. You keep on living in that fantasy world. If you need to understand media always happy to help out. By all means please call 9053732895. And if you need the email of other media outlets to email them. I can try and help out that way as well.

[@arthurlovell7575]

thats a traing video @jennysmith

[@HAVOC_26]

No..GOOGLE it. A family of 5 was left homeless by this fire, plus if you'd watched the entire video, which you failed to do, otherwise you wouldn't have posted this ridiculous comment you'd see it was a real fire..there was a post-fire presser.

[@KylesRV]

No is not training. Read the description and click the news link. A family lost their home.

[@rogerdehaven5603]

Try again FOOL.

[@HAVOC_26]

@eriksand9262 exactly

[@paulzeigler7616]

Architectural dissasembly. Very sad to watch.