LALAL.AI vs Adobe and Rip X!!!!!

[@LALALAI]

Thank you for reviewing our service! Currently we are developing the new generation of our neural network, sure there is a room for improvement, stay tuned, guys, you will be very surprised! Reply

[@JoelElias2_1]

i would like one to extract piano and wind instrument parts

[@antewoo]

what we really want vocal is stem sep 😏

[@e.and.f]

This really shows off how impressive the adobe voice cleaner is. It's not even close.

[@ManchesterMusic]

Completely agree. It’s insane how impressive the tech is.

[@Mi_Mono]

RipX DAW gets my vote. It's so awesome for mixing song stems and making remixes. The fact that I actually OWN the product, rather than paying for an online subscription is important to me.

[@mateosmusiclist2119]

Thanks Geoff a a very good analysis for sure. Really helps me with this process...

[@rudothorne1]

Sincerely appreciate your unbiased independent review and comparison.

[@ManchesterMusic]

Really appreciate this comment

[@morganst.pierre]

This is the tip of iceberg, The newish virtual DJ 2023 stems pt 2 is the current king of stems. Constantly changing there’s also interesting AI competition for creative music separation

[@JoshMobleyMusic]

Ultimate Vocal remover is the best I’ve ever heard and it’s free. You should do a video on that. The results are astonishing.

[@ManchesterMusic]

Nice, that’s gonna be next on my list

[@JoshMobleyMusic]

@@ManchesterMusic excellent :)

[@JoshMobleyMusic]

@@seekyeefirstforsound are we talking about the same thing? UVR can split out up to six stems of a song. It runs on your computer and can use a variety of different codecs. And, it's totally free.

[@seekyeefirstforsound]

@@JoshMobleyMusic Sry my bad. Let me know if UVR works on mac too. Will want to try it.

[@ManchesterMusic]

It works on Mac! I’ve been testing it since Josh brought it up.

[@adrianbankswestwood]

Since your last video Geoff, I've used adobe enhanced on a few projects - one being ALL the dialogue in short film which I was editing for a client. Now, interestingly, Adobe collapses everything to mono. To get around that in Logic, I have to use sample delay to artificially create a stereo effect. I also have found, if you use the original audio subtlety underneath the enhanced version, it makes for an incredible solution to fixing noise audio as you still get a sense of space. Great video as always, sir!

[@adrianbankswestwood]

Also, Adobe enhanced + RX = incredible solutions

[@fredflintstone1428]

Great video. What comes out with the final comparison, is that the Lalalai versions are pretty good. The Adobe one has not only removed noise but it has also aggressively EQ'd it and compressed it too. I think if you took the nomal Lalalai version, you could achieve the seem results as the Adobe one with the addition of subtractive EQ and compression.

[@matthewmcclure3181]

The real breakthrough will come when one of these applications can identify the tonal characteristics of specific instruments in the mids, and then separate multiple guitar/piano/synth/brass/strings into clean stems. The test for me comes in converting them into uncluttered midi files... so far the tech isn't there yet. When I hear a guitar solo and a synth pad in the same stem -> fail.

[@jonh2o]

I thought RipX does this.

[@feldsparsongs2331]

RX10 is a also very capable at cleaning up audio. Waves also has Clarity vx which can work for a fast noise clean situation

[@BigMTBrain]

GREAT analysis! A possible accidental discrepancy: @ 13:31 - "So for me, I think the biggest difference is the drums from LALAL AI over RIPX." Previously, you indicated a preference of RIPX drums over LALAL AI: @ 11:49 - "I'm not sure if you could hear it, but I found that we had a little bit more artifacting happening on the LALAL AI drums. The ones from RIPX were a bit tighter, a bit crisper, and didn't have that flangy envelope opening sound that I had on LALAL AI. Still, both very impressive however." ... EDIT: AHHHH, but I see the earlier assessment resurrected: @ 24:19 - "But the drums I thought sounded a little bit better and tighter on RIPX."

[@practicalknowledgeyt]

Honest review. Nice!

[@t1mman]

Adobe stuff is impressive for the voice! Lalalai is basically a gate so I wouldn't call this "AI". You can do the same with free plugins out there!

[@fredflintstone1428]

Looking at the pricing of RipX and Lalalai, I can see Lalalai may be pitching their service at people like vloggers, who may want to clean some audio up occasionally or singers who want to rip a vocal to create a backing track. For musicians and producers who might want to learn how a track was put together or for studying old recordings where the limited bandwidth may make transcribing difficult, then RipX would seem to be the more obvious choice. Thanks for thevideo though. I've only just downloaded the free version of RipX so I'm not sure yet what it may be able to offer.

[@billys5965]

I’m trying out LaLa. If you upload a wav file of a song, you can separate it into stems in wav (lossless) format. Vox, bass, drums, instruments, not unlike Music Rebalance in Izotope RX. Would either path (LaLa or RX) produce a stem file of sufficient fidelity that I can use with Izotope Audio Lens or inside Neutron 4 to create instrument reference files? Say, a bass tone I really like. Thanks. Big fan of your quality videos.

[@ManchesterMusic]

Absolutely, in fact you could export much more than bass, drums and vocals with LALAL.AI. Not sure if you noticed but guitar, synth, strings and more are all on the table as downloadable files. Only issue is fidelity, which you mention. The tone of the stem will never be perfectly what was recorded but it will come very close, the technology just gets better and better b

[@billys5965]

@@ManchesterMusic Thank you! Was having trouble figuring out where in the heck to get lossless instrument stems of reference files. Plenty of mp3 stems available through various karaoke sites, but terrible for reference files, as you've mentioned in various other vids.

[@64HAMMBONE]

You Know Rip X does so much more you cannot compare the too Please.

[@ManchesterMusic]

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[@gabrielstern4992]

Yes I know but the old rip x was better with the highest quality option when ripping for which the new software took out it rips too fast a, slower rip option results in a higher quality stem separation and rip also setting the frequency when riping to 48,000 hz improves the rip when importing stuff.

[@bitmammothOG]

wow that even got the pickup from the guitar

[@CRASS2047]

I clicked your notification and it took me to someone else’s vocal warmup video

[@ManchesterMusic]

Oh weird

[@CRASS2047]

@@ManchesterMusic The channel was LEWITT

[@JoelElias2_1]

i would like one to extract piano and wind instrument parts \

[@andremassicotte3571]

I can see your sold to LA LA LAI. $$$

[@n3r0n3]

LUPO by the way not LUPPO ;) nice comparison but honestly I’d be curious about Spectralayers as I guess that is the big player in this game together with Izotope RX

[@drumbyte]

If I can't accomplish a task locally on my computer it has zero value to me.

[@ANOOPBAL]

Lalala is just way too expensive as you are paying by minutes. Seriously, who waits for an email? . Ripx is just one time purchase. There are other software's that does what LalaI does without any emails and also much cheaper. For example, Xtrastems. You should have brought up the price comparison which is a major point.

[@Owen-Chiang]

Have you ever used Demix Pro? It's the only one I've found on the market that can separate lead vocals and backing vocals.

[@MrArpSolina]

What is the best app for extracting the bass instrument? I need MIDI files as a result.

[@markog4173]

Voice on RIP X ???

[@dougjones4538]

Good job! Adobe is throwing away data, kind of the cheap and dirty way to make folks think they're brilliant. Still much work to be done in this area.

[@angelh1743]

I still think Virtual DJ still does a much better job as far as the STEM features.

[@ManchesterMusic]

Wow. Too many players! Adding this to the list….

[@palmal3542]

Where is your review of the Adobe tool? Really impressed with the Adobe...really useful for commercial applications

[@palmal3542]

Are you aware of any tool that can remove boxy reverbs from badly recorded VO ?

[@ManchesterMusic]

Here you are: The End Of Microphones? kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6nPd6evarx9ars

[@ManchesterMusic]

iZotope Dialogue De-Reverb, DeRoom Pro Accentize are both good

[@palmal3542]

@@ManchesterMusic Thank you...and also thanks for all your videos!

[@GANSWINGER]

rip xxx

[@fleshtonegolem]

The Rip X has loads of clicks and phasing compared to Lalalai. I would say they sound similar, but Rip X really suffers.

[@bboymac84]

I heard Michael Jackson never really cared about audio bleed

[@howard927]

😱😱😱😱Bro Bad terms of use ? what's up with this ? If I record an original song in this DAW I can't release the song recorded with this DAW (hitnmix) according to this term of use. whats up with this ? All copyright, trademarks, design rights, patents and other intellectual property rights (registered and unregistered) in and on HIT’N’MIX and all content (including all applications) located on the site shall remain vested in Hit’n’Mix Ltd or its licensors (which includes other users). You may not copy, reproduce, republish, disassemble, decompile, reverse engineer, download, post, broadcast, transmit, make available to the public, or otherwise use HIT’N’MIX content in any way except for your own personal, non-commercial use. You also agree not to adapt, alter or create a derivative work from HIT’N’MIX. Any other use of HIT’N’MIX content requires the prior written permission of Hit’n’Mix Ltd.

[@AudibleFist]

Bro has gotta try rtx voice

[@rajivkurryah6894]

Adobe better than lalal