Lance Armstrong: It wasn't great, but I couldn't look away | Dope-cheat retells his tale |

[@nealm6764]

Lance just loves him some lance.

[@jessethompson6854]

Well it is called “LANCE”

[@jcas9388]

Lance Armstrong vs Miguel Indurain Both were FREAK Monsters.. One guy was a horrible person to other people. One was a nice humble guy. BOTH doped. Why do you think Indurain still has his Tour wins and is LOVED!!

[@santiagoego1825]

Who said Lance isnt loved?

[@marioslrzn]

They can take the trophy’s but who’s going to say he didn’t win, none of the other riders are because they were cheating too. You can’t change history, if you go back and watch the Tour de France, Lance still wins whether they stripped him now

[@wvu05]

@@marioslrzn I'll say he didn't win. Did Ben Johnson win the 1988 Olympic 100m?

[@Sills71]

Lance started doping at 16 or 17 years old. How do I know that? Well, he was beating Mark Allen and Mike Pigg (2 of the best triathletes of all time) and they were mature athletes at the top of their sport. No way he does that without doping. How does a 16 year old come to get steroids (EPO was not released at that time)? If you know anything about Texas, you know that a high school kid getting 'roids would require little effort.

[@AxelPRC]

The guy on the right is really quite annoying

[@johneber3188]

this documentary wasn't for you, or I, who know most of the details story. the documentary was for the average sports fan who only knows he took PEDs.

[@barrylattuca5352]

Was his drug use in the book It’s Not About The Bike? You two seem like jilted lovers of Lance. There is “a lot of Lance” because people want to hear from him. He is the only person that can tell us all of the details of his life and why he made the decisions he made.

[@gilleek2]

"Like a child doing a perfect poo". hilarious!!

[@MrEjc13]

How/where can you watch the doc?

[@aayxpl]

Eoin Collins ESPN player in Europe. 7 day free trial 👍

[@jbratt]

Yes, the sport of cycling in America brings out some really odd ball participants. I have worked in bike shops through school and been a competitive rider for many years. I have know a full blown Antifa communist, a couple of very introverted maybe even autistic guys, a guy that suffered from polio but was able to excel at cycling, some very intelligent people and some really dim people. It’s crazy and a fair observation.

[@devout666]

OTB are just devastated Lance wasn't English 🙄

[@radoncguy]

Can’t stop the feeling that you two have a strong personal hatred toward a man who was and is simply intense in everything he does. Maybe there is some jealousy involved ? Get over it and bury the hatchet.

[@willdtw]

How many times does he say that Lance is a basketball player?

[@rolandlundall133]

This tells you clearly that Eddie Mercx was a doper also because he knew DR Ferrari and he knew other doctors who helped cyclists dope. Eddie Mercx should be investigated and made to make clean.

[@Ligerpride]

Off The Ball doing a great job in making me feel some sort of sympathy for Armstrong. Let's lay off the holier than thou attitude. It smacks of OTB being best buddies with Hamilton (who himself is no angel) so let's go to town on the pariah. It's also not exactly against the grain.

[@srivaddadi1]

To expect a higher standard of morality, ethics and character from somebody is not equivalent to having a "holier than thou attitude. True, nobody's perfect but some are better than others and Tyler is much better than Lance Armstrong. He's not an angel: he's human and someone who suffered because the system at the time failed him and riders like him. If Lance had any emotional intelligence, he would've kept the likes of Hamilton and Landis in his good books. But he didnt and boy did it come back to haunt him

[@Ligerpride]

@@srivaddadi1 I don't disagree in general.....but OTB love a good character assassination.

[@Lebosh23435]

I you haven’t seen Gers interview with lance years back have a look absolutely awful

[@bellend69]

I am no Armstrong fan but how is he any worse than any of the other people racing in his era? They were nearly all doing the same thing. Because of his passport he has been relentlessly targeted over the years. Why strip him of the tours when there is no one else to give them to? He was the best of a "bad" bunch so it was pretty much a level playing field. Has there been a clean winner since Le Mond won the tour in 89 and 90? In all honestly probably not so why has Armstrong been targeted with such ferocity and all the others left alone.

[@smartiepancake]

I'm with you but Armstrong seems to have pushed it a bit too far with his bullying and aggressive attitude. On the other hand, it seems that the drugs in his era were more effective thus making the entire issue more difficult to cover up. Doping in the 90s became an issue in many sports, so it was a confluence of factors that did for him. But overall, yeah I agree with you. One exception - I suspect Chris Boardman was clean, so he was robbed.

[@djoooop]

No, there has not. The US, contrary to the EU, targets frauds in sports. LA wás caught in 1999 - they made it go away. It could not have been possible without the corruption that goes on in Europe. Which is the elephant in the room imho and basicly answers your question.

[@Lebosh23435]

There still doping now. Very easy to blood dope and very hard to get caught money talks and you wonder why Sky pulled the plug!?

[@livingbeing1113]

Lemond was far from clean, one of the first EPO user. And there hasn't been "clean" winners in pro sports since the early 900s, maybe.

[@jaydalypt2706]

Guys... Every team in the mid to late 90s was a "doping machine"

[@nealm6764]

You don't know that for a fact and are just smearing the innocent who didn't and couldn't compete with the dopers. Besides, not every doper was actively destroying people's lives to protect his cheating and lies.

[@DarthBane-zf8wv]

Actually they were destroying the lives of every amateur cyclist that wasn’t doping. What a terrible argument.

[@theflaver]

unfortunately I think that the interview was very weak and looked like the interviewer was trying to goad armstrong. How quickly the interviews here are willing to believe everyone but lance. Not a good record of honesty agreed but who cares about this now...?

[@johnmenton6688]

Any more adjectives available other than "interesting"?

[@stopspammingmesrsly]

Some high horses right here

[@Sills71]

Jordan never needed to "reclaim" his GOAT status.... he has always been the GOAT. People want to talk about Kobe or Lebranon but they never were close to Jordan.

[@ericdawson845]

I think that sure he lied, but that like all the other major riders was using PED, etc. However, his workout ethic was NOT surpassed in all likelihood by anybody. An absolute beast in effort and perseverence, and this is why when all the others were using the same crap, he turned it on and left them in his wake. Obnoxious in many ways, but gifted and powerful with a winning ethic very much like Jordan's.

[@patricknesbitt9208]

Get some new material. This is getting old

[@customisedfitness]

Since all top athletes were drug abusers, wasn`t it after all a level playing field!?

[@wvu05]

No, because some do it to different degrees, and others have more sophisticated methods, especially those with more money.

[@DarthBane-zf8wv]

Just like those with more money get access to better foods and training. It was in fact a level playing field

[@timw4369]

land cant ever admit he was guilty. It was always the sports fault the competitors fault the ucis fault but not his fault. Hes the guilty one and he cant admit it.

[@Lebosh23435]

Every single cyclist to this day stills cheats. It will always be a dirty sport.

[@smartiepancake]

Doping was always in cycling, there must've been an unwritten agreement whereby journos ignored it, so lets not get high and mighty here.

[@ianhaddit4890]

@Tony O'Brien The Off The Ball gang were on this story for years before the truth came out. Many interviews with whistle blowers like Paul Kimmage

[@smartiepancake]

@Tony O'Brien You guessed wrong.

[@smartiepancake]

@@ianhaddit4890 If the truth came out many more cyclists would be in this controversy. The histories of all of the major tours would change, titles all over the place would have to be stripped, possibly handed to other dopers. I just don't want to hear self important journos taking the moral high ground like they're mother teresa or something.Even Lemond conceded that riders in that era were damned if they did and damned if they didn't.

[@smartiepancake]

@Above All, United Do you want to try that again, based on what I wrote? Don't bother I'll answer you - I'm saying that maybe there could have been another way for the sport to transition away from doping, a way more in keeping with the history and facts of the sport. You have to make some allowance for the fact that elite sportsmen are highly motivated to win and will often do whatever it takes because that will is so strong in them. That was one redeeming characteristic of Armstrong, we admired his will to win. He beat advanced cancer, and came back, there is something special about that.

[@srivaddadi1]

@@smartiepancake Many cyclists WERE in the controversy. The likes of Operation Puerto exposed many of them, who were subsequently punished. But you're right, cycling should have done more though. Was Armstrong punished unfairly? No. Were others treated more leniently? Absolutely. But it was largely his fault for that. If he was more emotionally intelligent, he would not have alienated the people that brought his downfall

[@B8kedBean]

Does anyone care at this stage?

[@richardupyurass2379]

B8kedBean only these dipsh$t wanna be riders.

[@Burger1097]

The mocking English press. So boorish and tiresome.

[@yvonnemcvie8709]

People can make amends. Give him a break. You all will watch him. You just jealous you two. I sure you have made mistakes.

[@colinmontgomery1956]

Is this a serious take from this?

[@denali9643]

Good grief this is old and boring.