Öland - 3 Krakens In A Row

[@Flamuu]

I will admit, the second game was rough, but it seems like RNGesus felt the same and tried to make up for it at the end of game 3. Discord: discord.gg/Flamu Stream: www.twitch.tv/flamuu Insta: instagram.com/flamugram/ Twitter: twitter.com/flamuchz

[@davidgedye4691]

Hope you’re enjoying your break Flamu. Great work queueing up these videos I presume before you left.

[@TheGrandexeno]

Flamu, could you possibly feature the Vladivostok? I didn't really find any specific videos for it, I'd be grateful.

[@fredrikholmstrom3034]

It would be fun to see you take on a NOOB and hone that person into an awesome player!

[@reksiohundson8706]

I had 3 krakens in a "row" 26 march 21 , that "mean in same day on same ship Benham in a row (Iplayed some battles on other ships between), and that felt good, cause I am average player and those 3 krakerns made my total number of krakens rise to 39... (BTW Östergotland is Swedish destroyer , and you are from Finland ... so you are basically Swedish ;P)

[@kylecallanta8825]

Game 2 was like snatching defeat in the jaws of victory

[@dewannee]

Amagi: It's fine. Sound effect: poink! poink! Amagi: Fine!!!

[@bhutchisonbh]

T8 toptier 3 games in a row, what sorcery is this!?!?

[@octopusexperiment1931]

*iced by kitakaze moskva division* But when you get top tier in a t8 dd its fubuki murder simulator

[@matejgaborik8868]

I actually love Oland, one of my best WR ships, not that much dmg but it has really taught me positioning in DDs... like, if you learn to play pan-europeans in terms of positioning, your overall DD gameplay will thrive... already regrinding them, lots of fun and utility :)

[@dimitrisoikonomou3568]

The only reason i can think of why players don't shot dds is because in low tiers, the gun dispersion in larger ships ( mainly battleships) is so shit that the shells go around the dd, specialy when its moving towards you. So, why waste a volley on a target that you will miss??

[@reformedartist8528]

people dont focus fire what I want but when I'm in dd you damn sure they focus me lol.

[@fantasysoul9468]

first game， all dds gang up to fight back enemy dds is really enthusiastic

[@solanine6452]

And all get rekt

[@grimmshredsanguinus2915]

Yeah nobody help dds only dds themselves

[@vincentfauconnier1460]

very interesting to watch, taught me a few things for my dd play. thanks

[@TallulahSoie]

RNG has smiled on our boy this day

[@charga600]

They may be a pain to make, but this multiple replay, high speed (through the boring bits) with commentary about performance throughout works really well, be good to see similar videos to this in future from you.

[@Wadmore_Canada]

Great highly instructive video Flammu. You rock!

[@TheGrandexeno]

I always laugh at his nick "Researcher" lmao

[@petiertje]

"people don't want to shoot destroyers for some reason" That must be because they all shoot at me then. I always get shot at by 3+ ships the second I get spotted for some reason, no matter if I play cautious, aggressive or something in between. Maybe it's a Russian server thing, I play EU myself (again. took a long break)

[@FlavarOlonar]

I like the new editing style. Great vid thank you.

[@cornfieldcrawlers9907]

Great rounds, nice to have videos from you again that are slightly positive and not just WG hate rants.

[@billhanna2148]

Rants are good too... 🤔maybe in smaller doses

[@phg4977]

Blame weegee... this game could be so great.

[@smolwheat8266]

Carrier rework 😊

[@dragonlord2451]

i think when you showed your first engagement with the cossack you answered your own question of why BB players dont shoot at DDs. They cant hit them, so why shoot a volley for 0 damage, when you can shoot one for any other amount.

[@EvoraGT430]

You definitely won't hit if you don't fire. Also DD torps are a huge danger; you should always shoot if you can.

[@Malva_Studio]

5:54 "This is kind of common these days, for some reasons, quite rarely enemies shoot a DD." Don't think this statement is true for Asia server though, it seems people are crazy about DDs there, and DDs are shot every time they are spotted, and even CVs like to harass DDs constantly, which cause the drop of number of DD players. Not that I am complaining, DD is still my main ship type now and I enjoy the challenges. And because of those challenges, Euro DD line is one of the best DD line currently because they have decent guns (although only 4 but fast reload), very long range and fast torp in terms of both speed and reload which add a lot of flexibility of when to use them (either close range torp whenever there is chance or long range torp if there are temporary moments when radar ships and planes preventing us to advance), and very strong AA defense to counter the planes that harass us. Ah, I nearly forget to mention that I decided to grind Euro DD Line because of your Halland gameplay commentary video. Thank you for that.

[@aristosachaion_]

My only assumption for why nobody else-even cruisers, bizarrely enough-ever shoots at DDs is because they'll miss their shot, and usually I have this thought in mind too, unless their DD is in a really tight spot and has little room to maneuver, or is just starting to smoke up and slow down, making themselves easier to hit.

[@russiasgreatestspinmachine4096]

yeah, like usually most BBs are very far when DDs are spotted and they can just wiggle-wiggle-giggle to throw off the shells. And because of their long reload the BBs can't afford to shoot at something they will probably miss compared to something like an enemy BB

[@aristosachaion_]

I've learned since writing this that if a DD is currently fighting one of our own, they'll be too distracted to even pay attention to the BB 14km away, so I'm still able to land hits if I shoot them.

[@russiasgreatestspinmachine4096]

@@aristosachaion_ actually for me no, usually the DDs are violently maneuvering to dodge your DD's torps and shells, you're probably just going to hit 1-3 of your shells at best :/

[@davidngqkalone88]

@@russiasgreatestspinmachine4096 1-3 is more than enough to help your friendly dd out and can tip the fight in his favor.

[@russiasgreatestspinmachine4096]

@@davidngqkalone88 Well I did say "at best", as a player of american BBs i can say it's hard as heck to hit DDs when they engage our DD in the middle of the map unless I'm very close other than that there is practically no chance aside from when RNGesus bless me with good dispersion AND the DD doesn't turn or stop

[@Cactusjugglertm]

"This video is gonna be abit different". This means no complaining and bitching, and it's fucking refreshing for to watch Flamu this, unlike the last 6 months.

[@MrHellhounter]

Hey can you tell what Cap skills use that other tricks.. and if can tip me eguip also.. but those 3 replays hellp me little.. so thx for posting it.

[@Dropbare]

I'm regrinding Halland line to swap the captain onto Friesland and going more gun-focused for a challenge, too, and it's great. This really helps you realise that the guns on these ships are good. And the lower range is even better since you kill their DD and you're far less likely to be spotted due to gun bloom.

[@stanleyo5471]

I find that the european destroyers even though their torpedoes do very little damage the flood chance is very good so if you can get a ship that has used damage control and you land a whole salvo most likely you will get two floods

[@giantdwarfulf]

This is very good timing. I just unlocked Öland yesterday.

[@russiasgreatestspinmachine4096]

Lucky, I'm grinding my Benson for Fletcher

[@robertshaver4432]

Love my Oland, I use a strange set up of absolute Max AA (both gunnery+ AA skills and adrenalin rush) I also use both rudder shift upgrades so my detect is 6.5k but I can juke airplanes, dodge torps and it has a nice set of brakes to frustrate incoming fire whilst shimmy-shimmy-shake kite-fighting. Strange set-up yes but it frees me up to play as an aggressive open water lone wolf even when CVs are in play. The detect doesn't bother me because kite-fighting from a distance (10+k) is Olands best realm: at least in my book. At Max AA Oland has a very strong AA game, I often try to goad the focus of the CV by literally charging to/at his airplanes to piss him off which frees up my more vulnerable teammates. Note: Oland has a low health pool yes but it also has "very strong heals". I set-up my Oster the same but include the 6th slot AA upgrade which produces an near Halland AA equivalent ship but it's also way more maneuverable than Halland. Ironically I don't like my Halland: in-fact, I hate it lol I feel that (in having no smoke) I'm forced into going Max AA via the CVs current "over-powerful" status but it fits my playstyle anyway.

[@retrograde7156]

tbh i main battleships (conqueror specifically) and originally I wouldn't shot DD's cus usually i'd miss and considering its 25 seconds or so before reload I'd rather get a guaranteed hit on a enemy cruiser or battleship than risk not getting a hit on the enemy dd then be down 25 seconds reloading, Also genrally the dd stays spotted for 10 seconds or so and I'd still be reloading when they're spotted, so I can see why battleships don't want to fire at dd's. Though now I'll try to help the dd as if I score a hit that British HE will just melt the dd alive.

[@davidngqkalone88]

The counterpoint is that spotting a dd is a rare and difficult task. You'll have loads of time to shoot an enemy bb or CA. You only get so many opportunities to shoot DDs.

[@tacitus6384]

Now he's just showing off.

[@InternetzSpaceshipz]

I blew one of these away with a British cruiser (Edinburgh), was super surprised to find out it was a tier 8! Four 152mm AP pens took over half it's HP off.. So no surprise it has the lowest hitpoints of all the T8 dds. Heal didnt help it much ahah

[@trentreffner5699]

Issue with BB shooting DD is... shit dispersion, slow shells vs small target and maneuverable. Only time I feel I can reliably take out a DD is in the Atlanta and other daka-daka and even those are quite unreliable outside of 5 km... I may as well say flipping 12 coins and landing heads 12/12 has a higher chance of occurring than doing any damage with a NC hitting any DD when I am forced to stay 10 km away.

[@Gundolf300]

Öland is a very underrated ship tbh. It sure has it downsides but the pure dpm you can pump out with both torps and guns (not to mention torp AND shell speed being insane) is just something else.

[@Ned-Ryerson]

Plus 360°, which makes things even smoother.

[@suburbanview]

wow! just perfect playing.

[@robertlee5456]

Do you get flags awarded for all three Krakens, or is that reward only paid out once per day, maximum?

[@megabear163]

Once per day

[@bragoen]

"Nobody shoots at DDs" Yeah I'm going to go ahead and say that's Russian server bullshit, NOT what happens everywhere, and certainly not in my games, every battleship on the map will shoot at me.

[@indisputablefacts8507]

He says "nobody shoots at DDs" and also says "DD's die like flies"... So... Which is it? I think people shoot at DD's - and what we're seeing here is the very human trait of selective memory.

[@bandofbrothers5860]

1st Match T6-8 mixed 2nd Match T6-8 mixed 3rd Match T8 only In my 5 Öland matches I had 4 against T10. In fact me vs Smaland & Marceau. I'm quite a good DD main but Öland always gets matched against T10 often even outnumbered by DDs. Once I had me being the only DD (T8) against 2x T9 DDs. How does the MM allow such things at all.

[@johnshmi4573]

Deadly in right hands :)

[@kingofcastlechaos]

A brick wrapped in a pool noodle would be deadly in his hands.

[@Seppe1106]

I really enjoy playing dds lately. And oland is one of my many favorites. But I prefer fenyang currently and of course orkan..that thing is somewhat broken lol

[@n0us.]

I'm thinking of grinding the European DDs, and I guess I will now lol.

[@kingofcastlechaos]

repeat after me "This is eventually worth it" Good luck going smokeless

[@Linialomdil]

BBs don't want to shoot DDs because in the very, very likely scenario that their salvo is avoided or just whiffs, they've water their usefulness for the next 30s or so, and it feels like it'd be more useful to spend that 30s hitting a target that's likely to actually get hit. Even if it probably is better overall to fire at the DDs anyways, that's the feeling it gives, so I'm not sure why you're ragging on your bb players so hard. In fact, there were a couple of times they did shoot perfectly aimed salvos that just... didn't do any damage because of spread. good video though, do love seeing your CA/DD gameplay

[@magnus_bd6185]

Nice Vid !!!! Oland is heavily underestimated by everyone !!! its one of my favorite DDs in the game !!! its like a Dark horse in this game !!!

[@Korovkin_Pavel]

this amagi deserved it, for being full hp at the end of the game in the corner of a map. PS oland is a strong ship in t8 games, strangely there is no t10 game in the mix.

[@doge4818]

To be super useful in European dds is hang with a dd that caps and support it. Use its smoke as needed or spot when it smokes up.

[@07azrael]

Use your long range torpedoes is the way to go. That's how you play from tier 7 and you gun down noobs in dds

[@BlueSunHiredGun]

Great timing for this, as I just got elite on Skane last night. Amazing matches, but I still think I'm going to just skip Oland over and go straight for Ostergotland.

[@07azrael]

I've fucked osters in my skane. Don't skip oland

[@viktoria.j.a.1066]

It is a swedish ship. What is your mods name?

[@remokays]

What's the z button do?

[@switch_lp1302]

Good matchmaking!

[@unclerootusrlocal5409]

Hi Flamu to be honest, I really don't understand why you're playing Euro DDs in that style Euro DDs is a torpedo boats only, and I'm using guns only if it absolutely necessary to defend myself but even in this case I prefer to kite away and not to shoot

[@EvoraGT430]

Did you actually watch the video?

[@MarcAle07]

Because they are hard to hit from 20+km away. That's whyBB's don't shoot at DD's !

[@DeathsHood]

I fire at DDs as a BB for a few reasons. 1) They may slow down or change course, which helps with setting up firing zones or forcing a retreat. 2) As a floating island, it's kinda hard to dodge torps, and I really hate being torped to death. 3) If even _one_ of my shells hits a DD, it can open up the possibility of an ally taking them out a few shells earlier than if I wait until a safer target pops up. A DD dead three seconds early is a DD that can't torp me!

[@Goodman-4525]

I'm surprised people still don't spec Last Stand in this day and age on any DD

[@Ned-Ryerson]

My suspicion is that the Z 39 was used as a trainer for a really green captain. I have done it before, but tend to play Coop instead, these days.

[@vioblack0372]

wait how can you switch between servers? i still have an asian account but since an update i cannot switch anymore :( can somebody help?

[@zero_second_thoughts8766]

You can't afaik, but you can have multiple accounts on the different servers.

[@kokohskai625]

you can if you using WGC, just log in and choose server at top right and then press play

[@zero_second_thoughts8766]

@@kokohskai625 Oh cool, I didn't know that.

[@thatcher6180]

I have 22k doblon . What should i do. Should i wait for a better skin than kong

[@fire-vk8dn]

Objectively the package is not worth it at all, so probably wait/buy something else with the dubs.

[@thatcher6180]

@@oddy1637 🤨

[@grahammaxwell2112]

stop feeding WG

[@amrprofps1424]

sup flamu ive been playing this game for about 2 weeks now eye like the DD gameplay alot grindin the british line im at acasta how to be effective and mean on the field i need some advice

[@devonellis2520]

If you have only been playing for two weeks, my best piece of advice is, at the beginning of the match, wait. Let one full minute go by before you touch any key. Then look at the map, and then move. New players often charge ahead and get deleted. Patience helps ALOT.

[@amrprofps1424]

@@devonellis2520 yup eye do wait a couple of mins then push the other think is the torps and i miss alotta of on fast moving dds

[@sabasharashidze8121]

and i was thinking only 1 think will delete ship faster when he is full HP xD and my bet was truh DETOANTION GO BOOOOOOM ! XD

[@vonnielegros377]

Out here camping wishing I was grinding the Euro DD tree now instead

[@samarkand1585]

To be fair that second torpedo indeed hit right under a turret

[@devonellis2520]

Try playing the Orkan. In the current meta, she is super strong, the best DD hunter in the game. There is no t8 dd in the game I would not gunfight with, and very few t9s.

[@TeeDee87]

This should be titled, How to play DD in randoms featuring Öland.

[@zpg743]

Mandatory youtube engagement comment.

[@sirtogii5216]

This was the first ship I really enjoyed when grinding the Swedish DDs the first time. While I've learnt to enjoy the lower tiers this still is a great ship imo, well rounded. Great games Flamu

[@bryanbrewer4272]

well done!

[@bozman6787]

Oland vid finally. I loved this ship so much tbh, I don't even know why it was so gut

[@martinlaver007]

GJ. I feel like your water is much more glassy smooth than mine. Am I going mad?

[@winstinwin7650]

It’s the calm seas mod

[@martinlaver007]

@@winstinwin7650 thank you my dude!

[@NecroFlex]

"BBs say that DDs are OP, but when the DD is spotted, they will shoot something else" Yes, because a BB with 30s of reload can just spam at an enemy DD and hit 100% of the time, trust! I try to shoot at a DD when i see him, but most of the time the shells that could have done damage to another target will completely miss a DD, unless the DD is sub 10km away. If i don't have a target that i was engaging before or if no one else is shooting the DD, i'll throw a salvo out and pray that this is the one in a million shot it will do something. Hell, it's depressing seeing half of my HE shells hit the DD and only do 3k damage to him, while it would have done 2-3x more to another BB or CR. + since when are BBs the counter to DDs?

[@davidngqkalone88]

The counter point to this is that you have loads of opportunities to shoot other ships. You only get so many opportunities to shoot DDs.

[@kukajin9560]

Got out of the shower, looked for a flamu video, nope. Make a hammy Sammy, check recent feed and am now content with my Sammy and flamu

[@5chr4pn3ll]

Rng does smile sometimes. Will it smile on a Cruiser captain build vid?

[@mgranseth]

Oh you will pay for this gift by RNG-god with an offer of 50 CV games in a row

[@Raptor747]

People don't shoot destroyers that much because it's a lot harder to hit destroyers than it is battleships or cruisers, especially if they're far away. This is especially true for battleships, because missing your entire salvo is likely and a waste of the better part of a minute of your time.

[@luke_3_113]

great stuff

[@BasJon]

Would of been nice too see a game against tier 10, as thats the worst part of playing any tier 8s this game, I never get the luck for 3 in a row for top tier

[@GoldenCat0418]

10:28 actually they deal nearly 2k damage and the CV broke the engine and forced out the damage con

[@neverlayup]

Impressive.

[@stazbloodlad339]

many people like big dmg numbers so thats why they dont shoot dds. I was one of them. Some time ago i started shooting dds because i realised that if i kill them i can do more dmg in the end because they cant trop me if they are dead

[@devonellis2520]

Plus credits and xp are based on percentage of damage done to a ship. 5k or damage done to a bb can equal 30k of damage done to a BB.

[@EvoraGT430]

Well done.

[@Flobb1t]

EU line is a lot of fun

[@hongxathuanoduna547]

impressive !

[@mrcootie7284]

Hyuga vid plz?

[@NicoFritzler]

kagero, yukikaze and harekaze got 13k base health. its lower than öland

[@Flamuu]

Kagero & Yukikaze has 15.1k base. Harekaze is however 13300

[@petitroque1499]

To me, the results with the europeean line are not constant. It's an inferior line if DDs. 1) no smoke (tougher to disengage) 2) low torps alpha dmg (tougher to devastate something) 3) no hydro 4) slow DD (35 knots, meh) 5) AAs are not usefull every games. 6) guns are good, but you still cannot 1v1 all DDs 7) gun range is meh It's a very situationnal DD imo. In some games, I have very little opportunities to fight on good terms...

[@07azrael]

Then you are playing it completely wrong. Play Japanese or French if you want speed

[@petitroque1499]

@@07azrael reread the 7 points

[@DanielLopez-up6os]

The Team Never wants to shoot the enemy DD's so im often left alone Vs. A Kitakaze and that is not fun with the CV keeping me spotted.

[@vondertann8218]

2:00 you forget those harekazes with only 13.3k base hp

[@traiantrante4211]

gj!

[@Routerproblem]

How about new Vids about US DDs and USSR DD? DD gamepla changed a lot and you havent featured them in a while.

[@Stolens87]

Russian servers looks like happy place. I should visit them at some time.

[@professorhaaland6210]

Of course DDs are strong. A single dd can hold an entire flank if no one kills it.

[@EvoraGT430]

Especially Benham

[@Fenum]

Really like playing DDs in the game but..... I'm worse than a fucking potato, keep missing my torps and keep finding myself in situations where my team can't help lol. And my team refusing to shoot at enemy DDs while the moment I get spotted the whole damn map shoots at me.

[@Omegawerewolfx]

I wish to play on a server where DDs do not get focus fired

[@adityachanifindhraputra7824]

Solo Warrior is more difficult Flamu 😀😎

[@eze8970]

Great Play!

[@noahhollomon7316]

I only have like 25 krakens and Iv been playing for 5-6+ years

[@matheusfiorelli8829]

back when i was grinding the aremecan CAs, i pulled two Solo Warrriors (one in the Baltimore and the next day in the Buffalo), not in a roll but in back to back days, not the same but still :V

[@sphyre1196]

Wow OK. I absolutely hated that ship but then I am not a unicum so....

[@thatcher6180]

Ğ

[@seanelucero]

Why were you gun boating In open in first game before even capping b? Questionable

[@mema0005]

I think in all my time in WoWs I have managed 3 Kraken total...

[@loje248]

I literally got the Öland yesterday.

[@nikolaieh0624]

Is Öland broken? KEKW

[@Shadowat00]

No. But his enemies were 😅

[@titanictechno1]

All these "land" ships is getting out of hand! 😂😂

[@wombat4191]

Jutland, Friesland, Öland, Östergötland, Halland, Småland... Did I miss any? It's almost as if that combination of letters means something :D Edit: I did miss Lappland, but it was just a test ship.

[@ChaosD1988]

CleveLAND, though that has a wholly different meaning I reckon. :D

[@wombat4191]

@@ChaosD1988 Oh yeah I knew there was something from a completely different nation that I missed. But I don't think the meaning is really that different, land is pretty much the same word in both Swedish and English. Pronunciation is different though.

[@RinxPlatin666]

hey girlfriend i did 3 Kraken in a row !!! yeah do that to me ..........

[@muhatsy2455]

Among all OP ships, the only thing that needs a nerf is YOU Flamu xD

[@goobot829]

youve never featured jutland either, and you havent done minotaur for 4 years

[@flantan9399]

that rng on amagi was pretty rigged

[@robertshaver4432]

Wow 8 months later and I'm still the last commenter. Yep no one likes Oland, all good though because no one respects it either. I've now got 1700 games in my favorite ship "Oland"! I've since weened myself off of the extreme rudder shift and gone with 5.8k conceal. I disagree that short MG range is better because most often 12.2k MG range works out better because at 10k+ range with incoming fire alert Oland is very difficult to hit and I can easily melt a BB or Cruiser down using kite fighting techniques from 10k clear out to 12.2k where I'm basically impervious to incoming fire. I dare you to radar me, I'll melt your ass with fires: CVs beware too even today: I've got 21 point Jerzy Swirsky onboard! Bring it on boys! [BB68]Havet_Tiger N/A