Tadej Pogacar RUINS Jonas Vingegaard on Galibier | Tour de France 2024 Stage 4

[@Martiny-t5s]

Another year, another TDF watching the entire stage live but eagerly waiting for lanterne rouge recap

[@rupin8023]

Yeah😂(me too)

[@GrindAcademy-12]

Lmfao

[@bhip99]

I mean! 💯😅

[@salildiassabir3076]

Me too Hahahah

[@jjgstrings]

Hahahah love this

[@sergiodemichele6295]

When you climb at over 25 km/h the riders behind benefit from a remarkable slipstream; the fact that so many riders were dropped anyway gives us the measure of how infernal the pace set by UAE was...

[@Kingkongkirk1234]

Even more so into that headwind

[@YoutubSUCKZ]

Anabolic Chicken is great!

[@SaminHam]

The reason they are so good is their superior strategy and nutrition

[@gerrysecure5874]

​@@SaminHam Ha ha, top comment 😂

[@patrycja1813]

@@SaminHam how is their nutrition any different from anyone else?

[@GoliPowerEIC]

Pollit should have gotten the rider of the day award. Getting dropped on the first climb, coming back and after that shredding that gap to the breakaway. Mindblowing.

[@Lotschi]

I think UAE should have taken a rider more for the flat terrain instead of a third mountain lieutenant. What would happen if Politt had a bad day?

[@FlyingPastilla]

@@Lotschi Then Wellens can replace him and rotate with Soler. These two with Politt are great on the flat and shallow gradients.

[@ryanphelan6861]

hes the rouleur that uae have been missing in tour for years. Bit of ian stannard diesel engine but also a spring classics specialist so he will smash gravel like roubaix. Hes perfect fit with wellens and sivakov great mix. Wonderful team mcnulty would be great too but soler does have his days and really rides great for tadej unlike other situations hes been in they seem like good friends which is priceless for l'avenir winnnig rider. If ayuso gets sorted thats a lethal team as yates on steeps is natural and almeida, ayuso have quality to get over top in reduced bunch and pull with tadej on some of these stages. Potentially best team ive seen but ayuso needs to get in line for it to truly be a team.

[@dangurtler7177]

Magical...

[@i_guess_i_need_anaccount8708]

Agreed. Would be cool if they would award riders like him. Especially when it was a pretty pointless breakaway for tv time with no real stand out.

[@nathanparulian3471]

almeida and ayuso are like tadej's two lilttle annoying younger brothers

[@pauljansen1137]

almeida is actually older than Tadej!!😀

[@DanielSantos-jw8kk]

Ayuso was hiding in the back of the group, when he should protect Tadej. Its not the first time that he pulls this kind of stunt. Almeida was mad and Tadej wasn't happy either. With Tadej in the squad, ALL should work for him, not hide in the group.

[@pauljansen1137]

@@DanielSantos-jw8kk Ayuso will be corrected for this behaviour.....it wouldn't surprise me if UAE will have him do the work even before Adam Yates in the next mountain stage....just to put him in his place!!

[@DanielSantos-jw8kk]

@@pauljansen1137 Ayuso thinks he can play a free role in the team when the management made it clear: you can go to the Tour but you will work for Tadej. I think Ayuso hopes to be the protected rider. Mate, it has been only 4 stages! The lead is very slim and this guy is already thinking about himself in the podium! He needs a reality check fast.

[@pauljansen1137]

@@DanielSantos-jw8kk agreed!!

[@mfidds8338]

Fun Fact: The guy holding that big American flag is actually Glen Plake, a National Ski Hall of Fame skier! He's been in a bunch of ski movies and usually has a 12 inch mohawk. They interviewed him along the course on the US broadcast. :)

[@duaneboxwell9137]

That is a fun fact!

[@seanmccuen6970]

lol, I remember Plake and his mohawk. cool he's a cycling fan.

[@keirfarnum6811]

Plake couldn’t ski, but he was a character with balls.

[@codyrayl6629]

@@keirfarnum6811 Tell me you know NOTHING about Glenn Plake without telling me you know NOTHING about Glenn Plake.

[@robertlight2370]

The original extreme skier!

[@markschemel6409]

Banger of a stage

[@zzhughesd]

Was nailed on. Wasn’t it. The stage was nailed on be a mini Queen stage. Great great route this annual !!!!!!!!!! Pog just had to hold em with him. Then go go go. He’s just a modern day GOAT. Must have been lovely to be Pog when he went 2k off the top. Think I’ll just go now. Bye bye.

[@markbailey4396]

I love your analysis of Ayuso doing the "who, me?" look over his shoulder 😂

[@carlosverissimo5788]

Ayuso is very unluky with radios,... he never ears team orders.

[@brittle1]

Jonas really missing Sepp Kuss rn

[@savagepro9060]

No!

[@joaomadureira7929]

Yes ​@@savagepro9060

[@Nowayfrrrrrrr]

@@savagepro9060His manager said pretty much exactly what this comment says, that Kuss is indeed missing in this team

[@tobiasdencker853]

Kuss would't have done anything today mate

[@savagepro9060]

@@tobiasdencker853 hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa Kuss is still, believe or not, unpacking his Vuelta GIFT

[@chrispyy606060606]

I love both these riders. I can’t believe how well Jonas has recovered, it’s truly incredible. Barring illness or injury Pog should take it this year. Jonas can’t spend a couple of weeks in the ICU, more than a month off the bike and not be impacted in the later stages of a grand tour. It’s just not humanly possible.

[@joelecho]

No guarantees that back to back grand tours with a covid case in between for Pog wont catch up to him in the 3rd week either. I expect him to endure this tour better than Jonas, but it's 90/10, not 100/0 for Pog in my opinion. Either way, you're absolutely correct. Jonas only losing 7 seconds on the climb itself after spending 10 days with a tube in his lung 10 weeks ago is in some ways the most impressive performance of the season so far, even if it wasn't a win.

[@DK-vw1of]

@@joelechoexactly amazing some people act like the tour is done when the biggest time gaps always happen in th third week.

[@lordofchaos5378]

I see it a lot less positive for vingegaard then most Pogi went really late with 800m to to go he dropped jonas with about 500m to go maybe less he started dropping pretty quick at that point instead of holding it stable But more importantly this is his terain not pogi his terein galibier long climb after a full day of continuous climbing at altitude too Till today Jonas was the one dropping pogacar at altitude that was his weakspot It seems a bit less of a weakspot now But ofcourse the tour is still long and two grandtours might catch up in week 3 Lets hope for an exciting race Also remco issues in descent is worrying

[@S0meone97]

@@lordofchaos5378 Remember Jonas' best weapon is his incredible restitution, if this stage happened in week 3, the result may have been different.

[@suziederkins3310]

Jonas generally gets better and better, to be only 50 seconds down is pretty good at this stage. I still think it's 50/50

[@tylersic-s3z]

remco looked good

[@Nick-ve5bs]

yeah surprised me aswell but apparently he lost 2.5kg which will help.

[@kykeon22]

He will wear the yellow jersey after the first ITT

[@thriftest]

He lost time descending though which was a surprise

[@antoniorossi4007]

@@kykeon22He might, but it will be close.

[@Nick-ve5bs]

@@kykeon22 It's possible but he would need a super day

[@tomgosling4458]

Joao and Juan rotating and decimating the field was incredible to watch. Fair play to Jonas today. I think he was right at the limit at the top and hung on but suffered on the way down.

[@Jakobslander]

@tomgosling4458 They both dropped Roglic and Carapaz, et al. And then Pogacar dropped Vingegaard. Overall a stellar ride.

[@niallwoan5847]

Jonas is doing pretty good considering his preparation… it’ll be interesting to see whether the fatigue accumulates well or poorly for him. If he gets better, the last week of the tour is looking like 🔥

[@17k3ra]

hes on form

[@de4ds1ghtcsgo94]

Remco will be insane that 3rd week aswell😅

[@helvettefaensatan]

I'm hoping for a last year recap. Not necessarily for the result but for the excitement of the race.

[@tonyg3091]

@@17k3ra He looks OK, kinda, but his team is utter shite

[@ThisHandleIsAlreadyTaken839]

Pagacar probably would still drop Jonas in top form, but Jonas simply isn't at top form at the moment​ @17k3ra

[@oGchaZZZySoCal]

Team UAE rider time spent at the front of Pogacar's group on the Galibier proper: M. Soler: 15 sec A. Yates: 2 min 05 sec P. Sivakov: 3 min 20 sec J. Ayuso: 4 min 45 sec J. Almeida: 8 min Almeida's ride & leadership on the Galibier today was epic. 👏👏👏

[@l.d.t.6327]

you're ignoring the immense work by Politt, Wellens and Soler on Lautaret. Easily the same or more minutes and power.

[@oGchaZZZySoCal]

@@l.d.t.6327 Their role was finished by the time Tadej's group arrived on the Galibier proper. The pull times here are only for that part of the climb, not the whole 23.5 kilometers. Pollitts & Wellens were incredible throughout the entire day. Soler was solid.

[@henrybachri173]

Juan Ayuso is stronger than JV..with the almost 5 minutes pulling the peloton uphill, he still finish 3rd...compare to JV that hiding all day and finish 5th

[@Jakobslander]

Yeah, but he was bitching all the way up to the top though. Even I was like "STFU asshole!" all the way up... they were literally dropping every one and Almeida decided to go full telenovela on his own team minutes away from where Pogacar attacked (which I'm sure they planned way in advance). No need for that.

[@darrenstanleysmith5207]

@@henrybachri173my thoughts exactly

[@nftos]

I wouldn't say 'RUINS', I'd say "did a pretty nice ride, considering he is Tadej and his team is UAE " A bunch of dudes are still coming back from very serious crashes, and Jonas doesn't have Cous Cous with him.

[@ManWalksDogs]

classic LR ALL CAPS vid title hyperbole, that's all; always read them with a tongue in your cheek...

[@leafan101]

You have to remember this is KZbin. You have to be a little crazy with your titles if you want to reach an audience.

[@nftos]

@@ManWalksDogs Yeah, yeah. I know. It's a knee-jerk reaction. Almost a habit. And our comments help his algorithms. 😉

[@nftos]

@@leafan101 And people like me always have to argue with a headline or a thumbnail before watching the whole video. 🤣

[@leafan101]

@@nftos It wouldn't be KZbin if you didn't.

[@savievankint]

Where's the guy with his GF watching with him? Is he already awake? Or is he still dreaming of having a GF?

[@MarvinWestmaas]

That's harsh..

[@polfelipefalgas8290]

Guess she got bored 😢 too bad this stage was worth the watch

[@Nowayfrrrrrrr]

Who are you referring to?

[@atomizedart411]

You know it wouldn't last... she's sitting with the new guy learning about F 1

[@philipmeisterl]

I really wonder what they are thinking they cant even hold the wheel of pogacar if he were to ride hard so what are they doing

[@paulstarstarpaul5700]

If Ayuso had been there when Almeida who did an incredible job needed him the win could have been even bigger. It’s incredible 6 Domestiques do incredible or at least good work, but Ayuso is too good for taking a pull. As if he was something special in that absolutely stacked team.

[@adriaanoosthuizen7139]

Got the same feeling. As if he wants to conserve energy to be in contention if something bad were to happen with Pog.

[@Bozza36]

Around 7 seconds on the climb after Jonas' injury is incredible. He will be on it in the third week.

[@onepunchbud1472]

Hard to say - maybe he will fall apart because he lacked crucial weeks of training where he needed to recover. Still, he is very very impressive when you think he was in a hospital not long ago.

[@welanduzfullo8496]

@@onepunchbud1472what ? 😂

[@Gimmesoup88]

Yepp - that crash was a hard recovery in a short amount of time and you can’t recover that fast with all those injuries. He did amazing considering he had a broken collarbone, several broken ribs and a punctured lung from that crash.

[@wukalea]

@@welanduzfullo8496 what what? What he said makes perfect sense, Pog 2023 is an exemple of what can happen.

[@SirPrizeMF]

I reckon he's doing well because he's fresh due to not having raced so long, but in the long run he's lacking race hardness and he will crack in the final week, maybe even sooner.

[@DrJRMCFC]

Unlike Discovery and ITV you are the only guy who highlighted how Vin was under big pressure in those turns and the run to the summit. Had it been further to the summit it would have been a much bigger gap. TT will be fascinating

[@subjectillustrator]

ugh okay pogi cant do that from further out against vingo has to use explosiveness on the higher gradients. please use your head

[@madrx2]

Love the channel. The title is spoiling the action 😂

[@AsabaEnuel]

Bro this reminds me of 2022 when Jumbo cooked and bullied Tadej with numbers, the kitchen belongs to UAE now 🔥

[@Synechiae]

Hey bro I love your videos/analysis but can you please not spoil the stages in your headlines/thumbnails?

[@JamesErv]

Seconded for this Aussie who wakes up to these highlights every morning

[@YelCan]

There is only one “now”.

[@BenjiNaesenTV]

absolute banger stage

[@JordanCheyneComedy]

​@@traderz13 Adam 100%. He took the money at Ineos and UAE knowing he wouldn't always be "the guy". Simon took less to stay where he is the undisputed leader, and maybe save part of his soul but that is another conversation

[@JordanCheyneComedy]

@@traderz13 clearly not true, just google it Adam makes 2.9m, Simon 1.5.

[@zzhughesd]

Totally.

[@zzhughesd]

Stages like this instantly propel you onto your steed. Stages like this are just beautiful.

[@kareberntsen7834]

Saudi so much better than UAE right?

[@quiet451]

Congrats to Ayuso for taking the lead in the race and putting on the yellow jersey. You are truly the greatest stage racer in the world.

[@deadnicedave]

Great analysis as ever, cant help feel visma just look a whole lot weaker this TDF, especially no DVB or Sepp kuss and SKW plus WVA and Jonas undercooked for obvious reasons and a Full strength UAE, hopefully wrong, but this could be fairly straightforward for POG

[@nicholasloduca6668]

Loving the rivalry between Alemida and Ayuso

[@johnnyclimax]

Great racing, very entertaining stuff. Ayuso needs to get straightened out by the DS

[@Bryan-v6s]

i can't watch the tour because of work. you make it so enjoyable to get an update a bit later. thank you

[@fredrikmm8636]

"Ruined" is a very bold statement.

[@peterers3]

this is a crucial stage.

[@BlackTone91]

@@peterers3 crucial for what?

[@MotorbikeDesign]

@@peterers3it is just a starter, not a major stage

[@legalize.brokkoli]

Just the usual YT sensationalism

[@user-vt4hd8hb4v]

@@BlackTone91 crucial in almost every aspect. This was the first REAL test to establish Vingegaard's actual form. I've said it for multiple times the San Luca attack told us nothing, but people were all too eager to hype and scream ''HE'S BACK''. This was always going to show us how things really stand. Vingegaard lost the wheel within a kilometer and lost 20secs on the descent. Clearly, he's not in great shape. He lost 50 secs on this stage and there's an ITT coming where he's bound to lose at least half a minute more. That's not a great place to be, mentaly or on the GC, going into second&third week of the Tour against the strongest Pog with the strongest team we've ever seen. And no, Vingegaard doesn't ''just get better'' in the third week. He was always better because of his preparations and his planned late peaking. However, with lackluster preparations and coming from severe injuries he's more likely to crack in the third week, or even sooner.

[@danshort10]

The real story is that UAE set up a great launch pad for Pogi and he only took 9 seconds from Jonas on a climb. The TDF will be determined by the time trials and summit finishes. I think Pog might be a bit worried about his inability to distance himself from his biggest rival. Jonas is within striking distance

[@f00b4r7]

The real story is, this was probably the easiest mountain stage of the tour and normaly there shouldnt be any gap between the best GC riders. But UAE actually dropped team captains while 4 of them were still in the top group. Pogacar attack like 1 km from the top because of heavy winds and still won 35 seconds on his rivals at the end. What will happen on stage 14 when UAE isolates all the captains on the first moutain and they have to ride the last 60 km and two more mountains without any helpers?

[@D30-u7n]

Last year he would shoot gritting his teeth and with a mean face, such as in Cauterets or on the Puy de Dome, and you could see he was on the edge. Yesterday he snapped with his mouth shut. I say we will see the best Tadej in week 3

[@luma3163]

today pogi has to ask himself why he is not able to put time on a guy who broke his whole body 3 months ago. uphill!

[@f00b4r7]

@@luma3163 Maybe because Vingegaard recovered insanly well and is in pretty great form no matter what?! Other top tier riders got dropped easily by pogacar and vingegaard was the only one who even was close to him.

[@millerpils]

​@@f00b4r7 I agree and don't buy the Visma sandbagging for one minute. These guys are athletic phenoms and it probably didn't take Jonas long to start pumping out the numbers at altitude that he was doing earlier in the season.

[@osfan25]

What a stage. I wish for Pogi's sake Almedia and Ayuso would realize this isn't about their gc. Yates is better than both of them and he does what is asked of him, no questions asked.

[@thelitmedallion]

I think it's all for show to be honest. Ayuso didn't pull a single time at the bottom, but did try to take as much bonus time from all other GCs in the final 200 meters.

[@kareberntsen7834]

Of course he didnt pull at the bottom. They were chasing his leader.

[@l.d.t.6327]

Almeida also does what asked. The only one playing hard-to-make-him-work is Ayuso.

[@morellish]

I'm not an aero nut but could the deep section wheels have an impact on the downhill at 60-90 km/h? Usually aero benifits show going 35 km/h and faster. Noticed Vingegaard runs very shallow wheels in comparison.

[@josenunes321]

In the next mountain stages UAE must throw Ayuso or Almeida and see who can follow. Pogi only needs to stay with Vingo.

[@Phil_Seu_Photography]

I don't agree with the weight difference excuse. The heavier ball does not fall faster as Galileo famously showed. The heavier rider does have more momentum and that may help overcome air resistance but the lighter rider is more aero which also helps overcome air resistance, so weight is not an advantage. Also, CRod caught JV on the descent and they are probably similar in weight. THE difference was Pogi was accelerating out of the switchbacks much harder than JV. The difference was visibly obvious. In modern cycling, descending is about watts. JV had no legs left for the descent after trying to follow Pogi's uphill attack.

[@lesflynn4455]

Nice work Pog.

[@dudel39]

I Dont think this result says much. Last year Stage 6 pogacar also took time on vingegaard and we all know what happened later.

[@MarvinWestmaas]

You should be careful, lots of crybabies around who are crying their eyes out because Pog already won, and if he doesn't win it has to be because Vingegaard used 'doping' 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@fangru7294]

Completely different scenarios. Tadej was going into stage 6 with a minute lost against Jonas previous stage and still only got 24sec and had to attack next ten stages. Now he has 50sec on Jonas which will probably be over minute after 1st TT cuz its flat and just can ride comfortably and Jonas does not have team to cook Tadej in hardest stages this year so he will have to attack him himself which could result not having legs for that last TT stage...

[@Nowayfrrrrrrr]

@@MarvinWestmaasI don’t think that Pogacar‘s fanbase has anything to cry about at the moment, in fact you’re the one in here who seems to be crying about another fanbase.

[@savagepro9060]

@@fangru7294 what if Poggy crashes or gets ill or

[@brianmchugh3757]

@@fangru7294I couldn’t have stated it any better. Each year is different. The tables are reversed from last year: JV is behind in time, JV is returning from injury, and UAE has a stronger team. I’d say the wave is riding with Pogacar.

[@nathantang9964]

I must say, visma lease a bike is probably the worst team name ever, jumbo visma rolled off the tongue much better

[@danishcomfort1678]

Remco used cycling shoes with laces to reduce the weight by 180 g. Watch closely.

[@de4ds1ghtcsgo94]

Yep. He's an outsider that could upset. I didn't see any of the trademark blow up. It was him self limiting 😅

[@igorpiasecki7909]

Pogi definetely had power advantage on the pedalling part of the descent, but what is also worth noting is the setup - Pog on do-it-all V4RS and visibly deeper wheels vs Jonas on climbing specific R5 and shallow wheels. Didnt notice that during the stage at all, only now when re-watching, I wonder how much seconds that gave to Pog

[@yungforever93]

Jonas was actually on the aero-focused S5 and had a 1X SRAM setup that some speculated might have limited his gearing on the fast descent

[@igorpiasecki7909]

@@yungforever93 Shoot, you're right, it's an S5, my bad. I remembered someone else from Visma had R5 and that was stuck in my mind

[@yungforever93]

@@igorpiasecki7909 you’re right I think it was Jorgensen on the R5, I remember it particularly because I found Jonas’ choice of S5 odd in comparison given the stage profile

[@holykid3524]

​@@yungforever93 @igorpiasecki7909 Can one of you please explain this to someone much less technical than you? Was it a strategic mistake for Jonas to be on that bike, or is it something that would have helped him on the actual climb during the stage?

[@igorpiasecki7909]

@@holykid3524 I'd say Jonas' bike choice (apart from 1x drivetrain) would be ok if he would be able to stay with Pog. Cause when he is in the draft then aerodynamics of his set-up does not matter. However the deeper wheels that Pogi had definetely helped him on the straight-line part of the descent. It's a matter of trade-off: shallow wheels will be lighter, benefits you on the uphill but less aero, deeper wheels more aero, benefits you on the downhill, but they weigh more.

[@alloyd533]

Most interesting bit for me was that UAE were riding through and off on the climb rather one-and-done for each of their domestiques a la Sky train. Could just be consequence of the ayuso being difficult but was pretty consistent post him coming back to the front that he and Almaeda would do 1 min ish turns and then slot back into second wheel.

[@Tegal22]

At 6:35 Pogacar rested his arms on the handle bar, didn't they ban that position, if so what is the penalty for doing it?

[@SearuD]

If i am not mistaken, they banned the position where you would sit on the frame and Pogacar isn't doing that (he keeps sited on the seat). The rule that I think you a refering to is when UCI banned the "TT position" where you would rest your arms on the handle bar, the new rule say you have to always have to use a HAND on the handle bar/drops and not the ARMS. So I think that he isn't breaking any rules

[@joelecho]

@@SearuD Correct. The positions that are banned are the "super tuck" (where you sit on the top tube, or are forward of the seat and not supported by it at all) and the "puppy paws" or "invisible aero bars" position where you put your forearms on the top tube and put your hands out ahead as though they are in aero bars that aren't there.

[@Jonifico]

We need this type of route every year from now on.

[@funkydisciple]

I thought for a moment the way Ayuso was riding hard up the Galibier was also helping Jonas. Boy was I wrong, seeing Jonas unable to follow Pog was really surprising. Well done for a fantastic stage win Pog.

[@mathiasmadsen1271]

We’re not used to seeing Jonas like this. It’s sad but still cool to see them battle like this

[@rasmusandersen8302]

Can’t expect Jonas to compete with Pog this TDF no matter what. When it’s around 90 days since he was in a major crash that could have meant he wouldn’t have been in this TDF. I mean Pog has to win this year or it’s a massive failure for him.

[@Lotschi]

Well, not ruined. He had a serious gap but a fantastic descent!

[@Isaacbikker]

As a person who just watches TdF for fun, it’s really nice to watch your recaps afterwards and learn more about the technicalities of the race❤

[@CT-vl3iu]

He was descending at 90kmph..even to drive a car on that road at that speed could be suicidal..crazy guy.

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

Bonus seconds at the END of stages are BS and should not exist - all they do is make the difference between 1st place and others bigger, give an additional advantage to the rider who is strongest anyways, makes no sense!

[@Nowayfrrrrrrr]

It makes sense because then the GC riders have incentives to go for stage wins and fight for positions instead of just coming to the finish line all together. They make the race more tactical and more exciting, if you want that GC riders just ride to the finish line side by side without risking anything, then bonus seconds shouldn’t exist.

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

@@Nowayfrrrrrrr absolute nonsense, they obviously won't fight in sprint stages and in other stages they fight for the win and every second anyways

[@StringerBell50]

2400 Vm/h in VAM for 2:30min at the end of Galibier at 2600m altitude, on a stage where they didn't pull the plug. That's a Mur de Huy finish pace. 😳?

[@martingesser3846]

I reckon that Visma should try a raid on the gravel stage. They might not get rid of Tadej, but I'm not so confident about Remco and Primoz.

[@snakeshiet]

man i love your coverage so good. thanks :)

[@taxi9554]

Best analysis of the race! 🎉

[@kecskebaszok]

The radio if UAE was not working properly, hence the waving, they were not arguing, just communicating

[@alexforero2674]

Excelente video 👏🏼

[@formacero10]

Spanish journalism sounded really dumb remarking that Ayuso doesn't know how to make part of a team, explaining his dumb / crooked behavior

[@DMcTyke]

Brilliant summary, thank you!

[@GriffinMcMurray]

Bicycle

[@KevwePatani]

🚴🏼‍♂

[@savagepro9060]

velo, bicyclette, becane,

[@spicypretzel7616]

Bice

[@7164G]

kolo

[@angelovicentejr6381]

Foster Kid. Never forget.

[@marylandflyer5670]

Pogi downhill was insane…

[@bmxracer117]

UAE got the levels right

[@KevwePatani]

They got so many numbers teammates are hiding in the group

[@l.d.t.6327]

fructose vs. glucose?

[@alf79-n2q]

Pogacar fighting for seconds but he will blow up in the third week as last year!

[@EITiga]

This descent going to Valloire is like TT last year that Vingo is madness like a rocket 🚀 This time is Pogi going burst and lightning speed going down 🛬 Interesting is that Ayuso is making peekabo on Almeida 😅

[@verdensraskeste]

Landa saved Roglic

[@StuzRoz]

He got on the radio, maybe to dob him in 😂

[@litalpeled2055]

Happy to see that LR and LRCP have more subscribers since the tour started 🎉

[@zzhughesd]

Very VERY very VERY worried the Tour is over. Crashes apart. That’s a lot of seconds on the only man with the watts per kilo that can go with Pog. Hmmmmmmmm. It’s a 1.25 horse race. 200 riders and it’s 2 riders and well the second best come joint-ish fave today was showed some wheels. Oh no. It’s the most beautiful race to watch shame we don’t see duels to the death.

[@mathiasmadsen1271]

Really sad that injuries might have ruined the best tdf in many years

[@thriftest]

For a while there will be good battles for the sprint and climbers jersey to keep us interested, hopefully😊 Also think a possibility the lead two crack themselves by the third week.

[@mathiasmadsen1271]

@@thriftest Just Imagine this tour with all of this crazy stuff happening and then add Sepp Kuss and Peak Jonas. Tour would have been more interesting than ever. Still a great tour already tho

[@joelecho]

@@mathiasmadsen1271 LR said it himself, before the crash this year Jonas was performing so well that him winning the tour this year doesn't even count if it wasn't by more than 5 minutes. Especially with Pog doing the Giro. 90% Jonas vs 100% Pog is a way closer race than 100% Jonas vs 95% Pog. Pog is the better rider than Jonas in 95% of circumstances, but in the places where the difference is made in the tour, and 3 weeks into the race, Jonas is on another level. If you're going to be built to be incredible at one thing, he picked a good one. Not that I'm glad Jonas got hurt, far from it. But I think the race right now is far more interesting and far more up in the air than it would be if Jonas was in full form.

[@thriftest]

@@mathiasmadsen1271 totally agree. It ain't over until the final tt either👍

[@thsomash]

From what I can see, Vingegaard was running a 1x12 and it looked like sometimes he was spinning out on the fast pedalling parts.

[@TheMakas89]

The road is so far""Vingegaard haters

[@XCs-r3u]

Hello there! The world 'ruin' is not the right one in the context. The Tour is 3-week race you never know what is going to happen. Just be a little bit more analitical....

[@T_Mo271]

A 3 minute gap across the top 10 after 4 stages, that's quite a lot.

[@bostjanhribersek1205]

Our Slovenian beast Pogačar and Roglic UAE was the best. Vine alone with half UAE team. And he dont can catch Tadej down in mountains and wait for help Remco and Roglic 🤣💪🇸🇮

[@rossbroomfield5199]

UAE tactics were on point today - I think even 100% Jonas loses time today due to the hairpins meaning pogi has multiple accelerations

[@ynot7262]

Looks like the tables have turned... Last 2 yrs it was Visma vs Pogacar... Now it's UAE vs Vinegaard... Unless Jorgason and Kelderman can help Jonas... He's toast... If Jonas is going to win he's going to need the team to exhaust Pog on flats and beat him uphill...Jonas is ready it's the team that's not.

[@Formolopainface]

Genuinely enjoy watching a full gas mountain train sometimes 🤌

[@nt78stonewobble]

To me Pogacar looks very fit and skinny this year and in great shape. Seems like the confidence is there as well. Hoping Vingegaard, Evenepool and others can make it a real competition though. As a Dane, I gotta cheer Vingegaard and really likes the guy, but Pogacar is a great rider and exceedingly likeable. So as always, may the best one win. :)

[@Cwiet]

It was interesting how for the first time Jonas was completely on his own and Tadej had 2-3 helpers. This year is different. More or less Tadej spoiled the day for many other riders like Carapaz and Bernal. And what’s with Remco’s descending? He lost solid time on the descent from Galibier.

[@markmitchenall5948]

So want to dislike this guy... he's not Welsh or Yorkshireman, but he's just absolute quality sportsman and athlete.

[@twctopcat]

Jonas is undercooked but will Tadej be overcooked by week 3 having already done the Giro?! If this was Tadej's first GT of the year i'd say game over but having that tour already in his legs and given his explosive nature lends him to blow up at some point....

[@amblincork]

He had a month to recover from Giro wheres Vin had to train hard to try to recover pace. Plus thecrash imposed a traum on vins body and mind...if either were likely to over cook, logic suggest it would be more likely to happen to a traumatised body.The big question is whether Vin is capable of repeating thetime trail performace of last year

[@f00b4r7]

He didnt really have to go all out at the Giro, so I doubt it will really make a difference. Tadej just looks like he is on a different level right now. I mean the mountains are probably his biggest weakness compared to other GC riders and he is dropping everyone anyway. Vingegaard will lose quite some time in the two TTs aswell. And even if Pogacar will have a bad day he still has by far the best team and probably will not lose much time, because no one can isolate him.

[@twctopcat]

Thoughts now? Tadej and his solo efforts and classics / one day effort races may come back to haunt him....

[@amblincork]

@@twctopcat the fat lady still had not sung

[@mattm00ey]

Music too loud Great video tho. Great job

[@methilda2927]

Imagine if Jonas wouldnt be in hospital a few weeks ago! This could be such a thrilling TDF!

[@thriftest]

These riders are going so hard, i wonder if all these end stage attacks will wear them out by the third week, and bring them closer to everyone else.

[@tonilauge5786]

Real Clickbate shame on LR 🤮 Vingegaard expected to loose 2min It was 50 sec! Its a miracle for Jonas Vingegaard not to loose more! Lucky wind in the wrong direction For Podacar Roglic must be worried now. Ineos disappointed with Bernal And Pidcock 👎 Remco👍 but can He last 3 weeks???!😜🔝❤️

[@thelitmedallion]

HA HA! He says that's what he expected. It's just words. Actions matter. Ultimately, fish monger didn't have it at the top or the bottom.

[@amblincork]

😃I am afraid 'sayings'like that should be taken with a big grain of salt !!

[@tonilauge5786]

@@thelitmedallion Fishmonger has been able too take down Podacar 2 year. As Dane never under estimate a Thybo From Jutland

[@Expatinjpn]

The only one who can beat Tadej… is Tadej.

[@savagepro9060]

6:59 Pogacar taking the biggest gap on the road against Vingegaard in years . . . which of THESE years did Vinny have a healing punctured lung and broken ribs?

[@fangru7294]

Salty much

[@savagepro9060]

@@fangru7294 very

[@fangru7294]

@@savagepro9060 good. I hope I am not next lol.

[@savagepro9060]

@@fangru7294 Oh you'll stay sweet, don't worry

[@fangru7294]

@@savagepro9060 I hope so, but thanks anyway.

[@stevek7760]

Yes, ....yes I did enjoy the video, thanks.👍

[@borderstrains7985]

Think you need to rein it in with the "ruined" in the title. Everyone expected Pogacar to be fitter and have more racing in his legs

[@thelitmedallion]

nah, Jonas was pedaling squares... Even the commentators said it.

[@morganconey4814]

All eyes on remco at the weekends TT now 👀

[@Kat-zj5kd]

who's for tadej this year. I'm rooting for him.

[@Headhunter_212]

My lungs hurt just looking at the course profile from my couch. Wow.

[@julianschmidt147]

Incredible how many salty viewers get hung up on the title of the video. The stage today could mean two things, one of which is far more probable: 1. Jonas and Visma have a tactic for the later race stages and intend to take time of Tadej there, or 2. Jonas is not as fit as last year and Tadej, who has not been stopped by injury this year, is stronger than last year, making Tadej the clear favourite to win the GC. I think the latter is more likely, and I even think that either Remco or Ayuso might take second place, depending on how much endurance Jonas has. He clearly did not want to disappoint his fans, but he is not at 100%. His statement today after the stage says it all.

[@joelecho]

Why not both? I think the finish and the decent are probably good for Pogi no matter what. Jonas with his full 2022 or 2023 team maybe makes this hard enough to drop Pogi early enough to stay ahead on the decent but he'd have to get 30 seconds on him to stay out front, as we saw today. This would always be a good decent for pogo. If both teams are at full, Pogi probably attacks and Jonas holds the wheel and they two man TT to the finish where pogi takes the 3 bonus seconds on him. So I think Jonas takes a hit here he wouldn't usually have taken, but I also don't think this is a stage they had circled before he got hurt, either. The decent finish was never going to be the best for him.

[@biscaynediver]

_"His statement today after the stage says it all."_ Which statement? The one where he said he's very pleased to have gotten past this part of the race having lost much less time to Pogi than they'd planned? Or the one where he said: _"My time will come."_ I'm cheering for Pogi, but that statement is the statement of a BOSS. I think it would be foolish to believe Vingegaard's time to shine in this race has come and gone. No doubt Visma has come with the same plan it has used the past 2 years - let Pogi burn himself early, let Vingegaard's form build into Week 3, use the first day of the back-to-back mountain finale to wear down Pogi, then go for the kill and watch him fade on the second. Finish it off with the ITT. There is little here to suggest that this TDF won't follow the same path.

[@lazlo2511]

I don’t take kindly to over bold statements… ruined is heavy handed in my dictionary! Look it up. Regarding Remco, never going to even finish in the podium, go look at the stages ahead, we still got big mountains to climb, it’s his first Tour, his getting school fees right now. Pog will have a bad day, it will come.

[@julianschmidt147]

@@biscaynediver The statement where they said they calculated a time loss of 2 minutes. Last year, they would not have to predict such a time loss because Jonas was deemed to be stronger than Tadej, which turned out to be correct. If Tadej had attacked earlier, the gap would’ve extended in my humble opinion. The circumstances didn’t let that happen, but it looks like Jonas ist weaker than last year, whilst Tadej is considerably stronger. It was reported his numbers are 15% above his Giro-Numbers. I think he hasn’t shown his full power and already managed to gap everyone. I would love to see a back and forth like last year until we see a clear winner, but I have a feeling that Jonas will fight against Ayuso for third. Roglic is just too weak, and concerning Remco, lazlo is probably correct that he will crack in the mountains like he always did. I would love to stand corrected, but Jonas had a punctured lung 3 months ago. I think a big factor will be the temperature, because Jonas can cope with higher temperatures much better than Tadej, who always seemed to be much worse under hotter conditions. Let’s see a nice TDF!

[@windowlicker2846]

Ruins? I thought this was a serious cycling channel

[@hornet224]

Jonas is left alone to defend his title against mighty team UAE. Seth “sick” with Covid yet Pogacar had the same 10 days ago, while Wout Van Aert is nowhere to be found.

[@teje-184]

Only 7 second on the climb is very great, Jonas in the battle.

[@thelitmedallion]

Closer to 15 across the top.

[@teje-184]

@@thelitmedallion It's a very short time after everything that had to happen

[@frantzs1077]

If Ayuso was not selfish, it could be 2min gap to Jonas. This could cost them dearly. They had a chance to put more time to Jonas, maybe 2 min or more, 3 or 4 min to Roglic and Remco. 50 sec is nothing on a long climb. If Pogacar has a bad day and those 3 work together... anything can happen.

[@RodrigoDeJaneiro]

Did Jonas lose 30 seconds on the second part of the descent because he’s using 1x instead of 2x like everybody else and simply could not keep up with everyone else on the descent because of that? He was pretty much the only one losing time on the second part of the descent. Remco & Roglic are already 35 seconds behind at the start of the second half of the descent. It’s Jonas who loses 30 seconds, just on the second part of the descent. The first part is very technical, but the second part of the descent requires pedaling hard and at high speeds… this is where 1x lacks the top end that you have on the 2x gearing… could it be that it’s not just lack of legs, but lack of proper top end on the gearing?

[@CanJmpToo]

Monster Almeida pulls!

[@Judewilkinsonjfk]

Pog should be VERY conservative over the next few days.

[@nippelfrost]

Well the next two stages wont be a GC challenge

[@Potatopotato15]

@@nippelfrost I think that the next important GC stage is only next Wednesday...

[@donpablo8459]

​@@Potatopotato15fridays tt

[@gerrysecure5874]

Not a VG nor a Pogy fanboy, it wasn't ruining, the advantage on the climb was small and to be expected at this stage. The descend was logical due to weight difference. So VG is forced to attack in the 2nd half which will make the race interesting, but not decided yet. Only problem is VG's team is not as strong as Pogys.

[@carstenfischer5098]

We have a race on our hands here. Jonas far better than anyone could have predicted

[@BevoBill31]

Totally.......it's almost like it's too good to be true. 🤔

[@keirfarnum6811]

It’s still early. Vingo could still end up getting stronger as the Tour goes on.

[@batbawls]

The young wizard 6:57 beats the elf 7:12 !!!

[@xy36]

Ayuso was always the wildcard for UAE, and today proved it. It's like he thinks he's the second coming of Vingegaard/Roglic 2021. Pog looks strong, but Ayuso may yet prove to be the best Visma rider this year. I hope I'm wrong.