NEW COLNAGO Y1RS - why? Hands on Engineering

[@PeakTorque]

Please subscribe if you like this kind of analysis of big bike launches. I am a one man band so could really do with the ‘subs’ support to get to more events to ask the big brands real questions. Reading off a spec sheet is boring. Thanks

[@BPM-xh4yu]

so much better than Hambo

[@PeakTorque]

Hope you enjoyed that. Let me know if you have any questions, a lot more was covered than i could squeeze in the video. Cheers

[@feedbackzaloop]

how's the Remco hair with Pog bike doing?

[@PeakTorque]

@@feedbackzaloop cold. First time ive worn a headband under a helmet in all my years of cycling

[@Deedeedee137]

I enjoy your take on just about everything lol

[@mikehall6608]

240g between the frames doesn't sound like much to me, and my fat arse, why do they need to run both frames? The comfort is ballpark the same 🤷🏻... Haven't we learned that aero is just generally more beneficial than marginal weight differences? Even when doing 20kmh up hill?

[@alexnrs8700]

This was great. My initial reaction to the bike was cold, but after seeing it in more detail, and this coverage, my impression has changed and I quite like it. Looking forward to your “more to come“ on this topic. Thanks!

[@Haeron93]

Congrats on the invite PT. Well deserved for all the work you put in!

[@PeakTorque]

Much appreciated!

[@martinkroutil]

That is pretty awesome Colnago invited you, kudos to them. Love your engineering take on this bike. I kind of like it, price is absolute madness, but I guess I am not a primary customer for Colnago :).

[@nochancecw]

I agree. Glad to see Colnago invite questions and talks with their engineers. This is what bike companies should do. Also respect the engineers justifying their design.

[@pinkyfull]

What is the price?

[@martinkroutil]

@@pinkyfull I belive BikeRadar have comment on their video and they said 16 700 EUR for top spec one.

[@StonerOnLane]

16.7k with campy group and wheels... Sram Red with Vision 45 is 12.3k

[@martinkroutil]

@@StonerOnLane Ok my bad, thanks for info. It is still insane price for my standart, but It is nothing unusual i guess :).

[@nuttynut722]

so PT get more reach than GCN now

[@BigBrownMonke]

PT is unfiltered. GCN are a bunch of shills

[@jesseladd6864]

Colnago wants real info to get released not pump and dump info.

[@Millicente]

Or could be his video came out first and theirs will be more produced

[@BarryDakar]

GCN are just working out how to get Elite wheels and a Silca something-or-other on the bike… 😉

[@DeanPattrick]

​@@BarryDakar 😂😂 Dead on....

[@richardreichelt912]

Absolutely brilliant video. Congrats. So good to have educated dialogue with the engineers. Really enjoyed it. Was great to get insights as to the design factors taken into account and compromises to get the best all-round outcome.

[@PeakTorque]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@FaiscaaaH]

And boys and girls this is how we all want to see a bike review !!! Not that marketing bullshit of 3453% stiff or 3434% more aero we want some "proper talking" "some engineering" and that's what you are doing. Chapeau once again.

[@gusrallim]

this is exactly where I want to learn about a new bike

[@amc1974]

Nice invite and testament to the quality of the content you put out, more importantly the integrity of your content. I still own my 90s Mapei Art Decor C40. That for me was a period where a Colnago carbon frame was like an exotic supercar. So it’s great to see Colnago at the forefront of design again pushing new designs into the mainstream, with this Y1RS and the recent 3d printed steel bike. It’s a big change aesthetically, but I also believe it will start to become the norm.

[@tommyfreckmann6857]

Love my C40, too!! And yes, C40 was ahead of it's time.

[@CatManDoSocial]

Really great video, Alex. Nice and unexpected honor being able to do that but your reputation is really getting noticed. I really do like the look of the Y1RS. It reminds me of my old Kestrel KM40 is a lot of ways. Cheers.

[@Keksator]

wow thats huge for the channel gj mate cool video

[@PoorWorksmanship]

Peaky referencing Garand Thumb was the last box I needed on my 2024 bingo card

[@PeakTorque]

@@PoorWorksmanship no one curbed the engineers. No press officer present. Shows integrity.

[@PeakTorque]

Oops replied to the wrong comment! Too many comments!! 🎉

[@RC-fp1tl]

Timestamp? I missed it

[@FaiscaaaH]

Mr. Peak Torque killing it and getting the recognition that he deserves !!! Chapeau mate

[@AnvilAirsoftTV]

Thankyou for this. Plus well done to Colnago for inviting you. Shows some integrity from them. Especially letting their engineers out of the labs.

[@compassionsix]

Absolutely the best review I’ve seen on this bike.

[@ShawnIsBatman]

Congratulations on the video and for securing the invitation. Probably the only video I need to watch on this new frame....free of marketing b.s. and hitting the relevant points. I am certainly not a candidate for this bike, however, it is good to see how companies are trying to innovate. I believe Colnago deserves kudos for their efforts on this bike, however, I do not believe that they have achieved anything truly revolutionary.

[@miguelcohen4020]

Top work on securing the invite for this launch and for making this and all your other videos. Onto the next!

[@super8hell]

Remember there were few people in history who could see air: Kelly Johnson, Ron Dennis and Jesse Coyle.

[@mike_f]

Adrian Newey??

[@super8hell]

@mike_f yeah you might be right with the Newey, but I only really care about Kelly Johnson and Jesse Coyle.

[@PeakTorque]

@@mike_f newey sees more than air. Sees red most of the time 🫣

[@porkyparry1]

I couldn't get to this review fast enough as an antidote to the gushing praise we have come to expect from our friend Arthur's. With his come hither smile, the poor dear was clearly overcome by the glamour of it all.

[@AkimboShrimp]

You've sold out Peak Torque! Just kidding, hopefully you had some fun on your trip. Let's get Peak Torque at every bike launch

[@PeakTorque]

They dont pay you to attend, that would be great if they did 🤗

[@Jon-cw8bb]

That was awesome. New subscriber! You had great questions and really put them on the spot. Props to the Colnago engineers for answering well

[@marcvb3364]

Good job getting the invite and thanks for pointing out so many details! Also kudos to Colnago for going this route instead of the pure marketing based approach like from Trek for example, really adds some credibility to it.

[@rickrichardson1141]

Pleasantly surprised and rather impressed Colnago invited you. They would know that you don’t mince words so kudos to you and here’s to more invites mate👍

[@madregoose]

You're starting to look like the Dr. House of bicycle engineering mate. ❤

[@tom_zanna]

Congrats PT, you made it! I hope you enjoyed every second of the presentation

[@michaelmechex]

I don't hate it. I'm just glad someone saw sense and put UDH on a proper racing road bike. I hope others will follow suit. There have been some terrible dropout designs out there lately, especially those with a blind hole. The thread is either bonded in and the frame is one stripped thread away from the bin, or your wheel is held in by one or 2 tiny M3 screws.

[@MrVrob8]

Is it confirmed to be UDH?

[@wiseoldman5841]

Always loved the horizontal top tube, the frame looks amazing. The headtube and fork look out of balance with the delicate rear. And thankfully they didn't paint it flat black..let's see some color and joy back in our bikes! And some chrome somewhere..like God intended. And yes, I was just polishing the chrome rear stays on my vintage Dacordi and bright red livery that has gold flakes embedded in the clear coat. Sparkles in the sun like the jewel it is!

[@AlexBai612]

The best review and discussion of the frame and the engineering aspects that I’ve seen. Nice. 👌🏾

[@vadouvan]

Congrats PT on the Colnago invite! Very well deserved. I’m glad that some folks in the bike industry recognize that your unique voice adds value to the conversation. Looking forward to seeing your coverage of more bike launches in 2025. Ronan McLaughlin hinted that the Y1RS isn’t even going to be the most unusual aero bike design coming in the new year. Btw, checked in with the rest of the PNW fam and no one has heard of the phrase “tip to butt” before.😅

[@jensenhealey907efi]

Excellent video. The interviews with the engineers was a unique feature. Thanks for the content.

[@PeakTorque]

cheers bud

[@robbchastain3036]

If the design proves to be superior, let's see something close in alloy with those bars, that'd be cool. And congrats on getting this invite and thanks for asking real questions and even flipping over the frame to show the underside.

[@PeerensClement]

Refreshing to see an engineers' perspective on the design, thank you!

[@fms246]

Great video! Loved the discussion with the engineers too. Colnago with bike release of the year was definitely not on my 2024 bingo card!

[@PaulMuzni]

Such a good interview with the two fellas !. Great video 🎉

[@xaviermelendez2639]

Kudos, really keen review. Remind me to go to your channel first next time! What a fantastic bike, the engineers and designers did a great job.

[@florenzebg]

I think it will be really interesting to see how often Pog will actually use the v4rs now. 240g is a lot but in the tour he consistently climbed at 25-30kph. I think at those speeds the two should be really close

[@matthewshaw3747]

And he’s a lot faster than that going down on the other side and I between the climbs. It would be an odd stage where the light bike makes more sense at his speeds.

[@MegaPapagaj]

​@@matthewshaw3747I think you'll be surprised how little Pogačar will ride this bike...I could be wrong, but up until now he's always been very slow to adopt new technology...I think he was even one of the last to ride a rim brakes when everyone has already switched to discs...But like I said...I could be wrong😉

[@MrJaycobsen]

@@MegaPapagaj But he was one of the first high profile riders to switch to 165 cranks on the roadbike though

[@justinlane5862]

Weight of frame shouldn’t matter as they’ll get both bikes to the minimum weight

[@davidarthur]

was nice to meet you fella

[@chrisvanbuggenum871]

As a fan of the old Venge, i am happy to see an aero bike. I could never afford this but I'm all for it.

[@Miekzz]

that was great, thanks for the interview to you and the colnago guys!

[@varbenovk]

The final sentence :D :D :D Nice vid, congrats on being there!

[@mvp_kryptonite]

I have only taken delivery of the Zwift Ride, but maybe I was too hasty. This for indoor training is what I need!!! Great piece though PT! Excellent too they invited you!

[@MasteringGrappling]

They really thought out the design. They tried to optimize every part of the bike. It’s nice to hear from the engineers. Thanks for the video.

[@weedaviec]

These guys come across very well. Great video and analysis. I'm sure Hambini may be excited to see this.

[@atulraj3410]

Please correct me if im wrong, but i seem to remember when PT criticized colnago, and they responded in a very professional and concise manner. They immediately earned my respect. If i do ever buy a carbon frame, itll be colnago, because of how they're treating you.

[@PeakTorque]

@@atulraj3410 i dont remember, when was that?

[@FiveMinuteVelo]

Thanks for your critique, the interview and the nice shots of the bike. However, I would have thought an engineer would know that power (Watts) is not the unit of speed (m/s). Although to his credit, PT does use the term 'faster' (a pseudonym for speed?) rather than 'speed' (unlike some other channels).

[@IlPinnacolo]

Honored that my comment about 90% of the aero being the first 1/3rd, and the thickness/chord ratio made it into your analysis. I detest disk brakes but I really like this bike. With regard to the sloping top tube. They have never made sense to me from an aero standpoint. Look at what you are doing with a sloping top tube, you are making the sine of the top tube angle worth of frontal area (if you cut off the head tube) that consists of a bluff body. You still have the frontal area of the seat tube and/or seat post in its wake. IMO the most aero arrangement would be a completely horizontal top tube, an airfoil seat post, and, like what they have done here, a swept airfoil seat tube which increases the effective chord length. The added benefit of the swept seat tube is the wake shadowing of the rear wheel.

[@simonstucki]

I was thinking the same about the horizontal top tube, but of course I'm not an aero expert, but maybe aero had something to do with it.

[@m.talley1660]

I have also thought there was an aero benefit to horizontal top tubes. Hence the movement away from sloping designs as far back as the first Venge and other aero models including tri-bikes. Another marketing driven reference also about compact frame - so again sloping top tubes. I think I remember the described benefits being increased stiffness. Can someone explain how torsional stiffness is less with a smaller front triangle? Maybe I heard wrong from this discussion.

[@benrothacker]

A sloping top tube helps with both frame structural qualities and rider body drag, at minimal cost in frame drag. It's a net aerodynamic benefit.

[@IlPinnacolo]

@@m.talley1660 With carbon you can change the laminating schedule to the extent that I think the actual frame layout becomes secondary when it comes to stiffness. But I should say I think we are going to see the discussion of stiffness change dramatically in the coming years given what the Silverstone pedaling efficiency rig has teased us with. The whole selling point of larger tires is that they effectively reduce the losses that stiffness incurs. The body should not be a damper. Maybe PT will delve into this topic in the future.

[@IlPinnacolo]

@@benrothacker how does it help with rider body drag?

[@marko5876]

Now that is a proper bike-check, nice one PT.

[@craigschuller]

So glad you got the invite! But did I misunderstand your comment on the bayonet fork? It sounded like you gave Cervelo credit for that design, but Look was doing that 30+ years ago on their KG bikes!

[@global_nomad.]

Great to see you being invited out to these launches now, soon the other channels ( and the pros) will be quoting your lines or at least adding to their lexicon of phrases.

[@peterthomas8053]

Great video. Nice to see an engineer getting the opportunity to be let loose on the launch, as opposed to an adertizing channel spouting on about the figures that they've been supplied with and the asthetics only.

[@bikeradar]

Big media now... one of us, one of us 😉

[@RudiDwiHartanto]

Lets go PT, hope this is the right way to be close with people in industry and give them constructive feedback

[@ricardoferraz9131]

This is the most beauti bike i ever see. Future design and a very eficient dynamic development

[@daviddjerassi]

A Worthwhile video NO BS TG im waiting for part two by PT thank you.

[@XPCTECH]

The bike looks absolutely fantastic.

[@chrisko6439]

No, it doesn´t. Almost as ugly as a triathlon bike.

[@AP-wd6dv]

No the previous, more traditional model looked much better imo. This bike is very pinarello esque, not in a good way. It's not ugly just not as good as the Colnagos we have been seeing this year

[@SkyGabrielValdez]

I think that seat tube/seat stay area looks good!

[@onepunchbud1472]

Thanks for the video 👍 In many aspects the bike makes a lot of sense- especially in the front. The back is probably 50-50 (marketing - flex which creates some comfort) which is fine. I actually start to like that design. Besides the seat tube this bike looks good (thin, a bit deeper and aero, the fork is cool) and the back... Well... Makes the bike look a bit smaller somehow. I especially like the section above the rear wheel. And considering many many brands just copy the sworks sl8 (the shape is everywhere), this is something new and needed individualism.

[@PeakTorque]

I think your first paragraph sums up my opinion pretty well.

[@edmundhodgson2572]

Those guys are so cool. I want a job at Colnago! I was scratching my head when I saw this bike , but now everything else(not C5) looks out of date. If only I could see aero...... Leave it.

[@PeakTorque]

@@edmundhodgson2572 certainly makes my humble bmc feel a bit old hat 🎩

[@suugoi]

I can comment only on looks, and I like it. Looks unique and not stupid as some other gimmicks I've seen. I would definitely look at it if I was in market for new bike and rich.

[@lechprotean]

seat adjustment with a hacksaw?

[@simonstucki]

I belive so. I read somewhere that you have about 1.5cm (wasn't exactly sure if in total or up and down each) of adjustment.

[@PeakTorque]

@@lechprotean yeh. And a tiny amount of adjustment. I did ask them why not an isp then. Their answer: easier for buyers and or new owners to mess it up without writing off the frameset. Can just get a new post. A second owner can also just get a new post which they will do (apparently) at virtually cost price.

[@claritean]

I'm not a roadie but these non-clickbait tooltips get me every time

[@rskng]

Haha, PT got neutered. The always contrarian got schooled. Next is a launch review for new hookless wheels.

[@PeakTorque]

Excuse me?

[@rskng]

@@PeakTorque Go watch your Sl8 video. Disputing every single claim and saying you don't believe they're claims and giving advise of not to buy it. In the Colnago video, you didn't question a single thing. Once you got an invitation, all the normal scrutiny was gone.

[@Chazz4804]

Maybe I'm wrong but doesn't the sl8 have a 68mm bb, and it's tour stiffness values are pretty good as well as people loving the way the pedaling stiffness feels. Sure it's very light which feels good but those chainstays are not much bigger than the seatstays. I always looked at chainstays size as a bb stiffness indicator but surely that frame has changed things

[@AP-wd6dv]

I would not be able to resist the temptation to ride that bike

[@Rafael-vu2xn]

2025 might be the best new bike year in a long time

[@YannickOkpara-d5l]

The bike looks snazzier and snazzier the more I look at it. The seatpost may look a bit wacky, but the water bottle integration and those handlebars, man...

[@flipmarais]

Great video, really enjoyed it. On the seeing aero thing, the channel you refer to use that in a satirical manner, I think.

[@kautzz]

ohh, how much I enjoy these no BS product videos ☺ keep it up and let me know if you pass Valencia on the bike - I know a few good climbs and bakeries

[@PeakTorque]

@@kautzz only going as far north as Denia probably on the bike

[@billcooper2798]

Great video with no double talking bs just this is why we did this or that. Great job gentlemen!

[@NeoPayneHK]

i cant wait to see them race with this bike!

[@Omnis2]

Nothing can save Jaguar

[@PeakTorque]

Get the colnago boys in to save it 😂

[@greghart6310]

As an industrial designer I absolutely love the design innovation on this bike - Bravo! The frontal section is incredibly narrow and sharp and the handlebars simply make sense. I reckon (as Chris Miller commented) the rider's view will feel very exposed and thrilling, The offset seat mast is not a new concept but has been handled beautifully, very elegant and neat. Amazing! I'm still waiting for complete integration of LED lights and ride computer from a manufacturer - maybe next time Colnago!?

[@blakegoodwin3591]

^ what this guy said! Need more sleek integration of the essentials straight from the factory. Yes, even on a race bike. I commute on my sl8 damnit!

[@joelecho]

I'm certainly not in the potential market for this bike, but credit where credit is due for doing something genuinely unique. Interested to see how it performs, and if it's truly a (small) step change in frame performance it'll be interesting to see how other brands follow suit in the near future.

[@FlyingPastilla]

One thing that strikes me is the bar width on the Y1RS at 0:11. It looks much wider than what we can see on the V4RS Pogacar used in 2024

[@lovenottheworld5723]

The external cups look better with the colours visible. It is Italian. They can say all they like that it's engineering, but it could only ever be art made with love.

[@sebastianm2381]

Very cool and informative. I like that you actually dive into the design details with the guys behind the bike. About stiffness: It seems like they admit that the bike is probably less stiff than the V4RS without actually saying it out loud, right?

[@pinkyfull]

Something i've been surprised nobody is talking about (and fair enough this is a super-hyper-mega bike and not for the light of wallet) is how on earth do you change seat height? I feel like the only way to fit this properly would be to visit Colnago and test on different size frames/seat post lengths. Sure, that works fine for the pros, but us bozos from the bottom of the south pacific would have a bloody hard time trying to make this work if its even a few mm out.

[@michalsz.7179]

it is not like your LBS will stock them... I suppose they will come with a fit so you also eliminate guess work with the bars - as to reach at least.

[@elPedro666]

Anyone buying this bike (or any in this category) without a bike fit deserve to make a mess of it! 😂

[@pagosa1040]

Good interview. Regarding slipping single bolt , infinite adjustment seat posts. Im using red thread locker on the friction areas on an mtb post, no slip. And its not hard to take apart for a readjust.

[@toddtonis]

Very good technical interview. Well done.

[@theorangebaron1595]

Thanks for the vid. Loved watching, quite a crazy bike design.

[@bendardania]

Does Tadej like the bike? Will handlebar be an issue for Tadej? Separately: as far as the weight goes, I don’t think the weight will be an issue. A bird tells me that there is a group set somewhere being developed +-2200 grams, planed to be installed on this bike.

[@Up2L842moro]

Yeah, SRAM Red 22 mechanical with cable brakes. Maybe they’ll use Yokozuna calipers. Or maybe Pauls will do a run of Klampers in UAE colors 😂

[@thedownunderverse]

Dura Ace 1x13?

[@bendardania]

@@Up2L842moro red 22 and etap are under 2000. Laugh all you want but patent for wireless on 1x has been filed, dont be surprised if they file for 2x as well. That f crankset with PM is exactly 763 grams in size 54/40-165, Which is why he has to use ti chainings, and special bolts, On his TT bike he is using sometimes diffrent crankset from china. New groupset will come out, if they don’t make something very special and light, they will continue to struggle even more and possible end up just like that other company from Italy. Not very long from now 1x will be the future. I will come back to this comment and will continue our “ commendy” in the future when groupset launches. I might by wrong but my bird is usually right, so far it hasn’t failed me.

[@pierrex3226]

It's nice to see them innovate. Pogi s bike looked like the most OEM frame imaginable, and we know it tested slow.

[@ClownPatroI]

Great video PT, plenty of good info in this

[@abhimawa1]

Great analysis by PT. Some of my initial questions were cleared here (the seatpost positioning/angle especially, and its correlation with ‘why not sloping TT’). They should work with Giant (I guess) to ensure precision mold to accommodate perfect Press Fit BB alignment (?), and perhaps some input from Adrian Newey (he’s a cyclist or so I heard) and/or Rory Byrne for wind reading. But again, for aero, I wonder when cycling will start to think about downforce and efficiency on winding road rather than straight line only? 🤔 Anyway, great video, PT 👍

[@blaze1148]

Saw David Arthur sneaking through @ 13:19 😀

[@jesseladd6864]

I think that rear triangle/seat tube area is a way to get around looking too similar to the S5/Oltre. It’s fairly similar to the older Kestrel TT bike. I wonder how much additional material is needed to support that structure and keep it from breaking. Is there a weight limit? Idkkk

[@RichardMigneron]

I like the rear, the seat stays with that small tube look like a fork. I always wanted a bike that had a rear "fork" instead of the stays ending on each side of the seat tube. And if you would curve the stays a bit, like the old Hetchins bike frames you maybe could get a good compliance, compensating the top seat area that would get stiffer

[@DDGB08]

Good looking bike especially with the black and white pain scheme but insanely priced.

[@kaseycarpenter73]

Look at you! Congrats! If nothing else a solid validation of your expertise and influence (sorry, time has forced me to hate that word, but still) in this very niche space.

[@Alan_Hans__]

I really can't see the upper down tube staying intact. The massive amount of moment on that section of the bike with the seat tube angled that far back is bound to cause failures imho. All of the vertical compliance that the design now has stresses on a tiny portion of the frame.

[@chrisbowman905]

I enjoyed the correlation chat

[@Kiwisail]

Would love to have one of these bike. Looks so hot. Shame i dont have a NZ$21k lying around for the entry level model.

[@Who_Are_You_Joe]

cool video mate. you can see the moment the engineers go, ah sh*t this guy knows what he's talking about when he mentions about the width of the BB

[@gregmorrison7320]

Yeah the touching of the face at that point (often indicates a lie being told) shows he wasn't entirely comfortable with that part of the discussion.

[@tristantheuerkorn5124]

New bike looks way better! Colnago is Colnago!

[@Gixer750pilot]

Love it !!! It’s stunning ❤

[@jameshoward9700]

For sure the front end looks relatively convincing from an aero perspective, but it's not hugely novel (Look, Cervelo, BMC etc - all unreliable). It will be an absolute nightmare to work on, adjust, fit, pack and service. It will absolutely sacrifice torsional stiffness (esp when descending) and will be under huge loading during braking. Worth the compromise? Maybe as a disposable tool for a 60kg pro. As for that 5hitshow seat cluster... It will allow Pog a VERY forward position, but it's crap in every other way. Not a fan - inelegant and compromised.

[@realmagnetics799]

Hard to believe the rear triangle is going to have much compliance. Definitely going to want to run the 28 mm on the rear.

[@tongotongo3143]

For me it’s love from the first sight. Probably the best looking bicycle in history. I just wish they make it with normal mechanical gear shifting, and also produce version with better less expensive components so the bike costs around ~ 2300 € which would be democratic and appropriate.

[@NeilXDavis]

Love the very last line of that interview 😂😂😂

[@loganmarriott11]

Based on the discussion with the Engineers, I read this as; “Shimano wanted a none T47. The only way we could get the aero values (despite the radical front end) was to go external cup BB to make everything in the area super narrow… still wasn’t enough, so we had to progress on the weird seat-tube aero concept. We got there in the end Aero wise, and vertical compliance…. - had to be different (The argument against sloping top tube being affecting ride quality is somewhat ?? Given they have clearly admitted adding a lot of layups to the BB. And hence haven’t won the ‘aero AND on par Weight wise equation’) But yeah, it’s 400g heavier than my 3T Exploro LTD 5 year old gravel bike. So should be more aero! Or more something