Large FOV with sharp 4K displays - How good is the Pimax Vision 8K X VR VR headset? My review!

[@voodoodevr-en]

You can find information about the Pimax Vision 8K X here: www.pimax.com/products/pimax-vision-8k-x Would you like to help me spread VR further? Support me here or via Patreon from 1$ per month and get exclusive behind the scenes videos: patreon.com/voodoode You want to support me for free: purchases via Amazon via amazon.com/?tag=voodoodevr-20 or twitch.tv/voodoode

[@rabih1978]

U need to try the alternative audio solution they have, another strap with new headphones. I got it but haven't tried it yet

[@cruser2517]

@@rabih1978 PUT THE NEW KDMAS ON ASAP!!! it's night and day over the SMAS

[@rabih1978]

@@cruser2517 Kool. Thanks, i installed it 2 weeks ago but haven't been using the headset

[@sonsolar]

You said you wouldn't get the 8k+ because of the software but you would get the 8kx even at the price? Just making sure this is correct.

[@neurokinetik64ES]

Motion compensation is there for people using sim rigs that move around. Without it, the view would be moving when the motion rig moves.

[@Timre23.1]

Doesn't that happen in real life? Or you mean like 180 lateral turns?

[@neurokinetik64ES]

@@Timre23.1 Any turns in any direction. The motion sim is supposed to fake the g-forces by moving around, but the headset should keep your perspective fixed. For example, you don't want the interior of a car looking like it is rotating around you, you should be fixed in the driver's seat unless you are turning your head and looking around. That's what the motion compensation is for.

[@sparklingmoota4568]

Thinking in the future to buy this, have oculus rift S now, so big jump. I know there are some downside. But that's why I can always rely on your reviews. You say the good and the bad. You are my favourite VR KZbinr! :D For me I want the FOV and the 4K options. Not too worried about weight. Thank you for this lovely review! :D

[@charlesalexanderable]

4:40 "Put it down until the end here", as long as you loosen the top strap it can go much farther down than that, where he set it to is just where it starts meeting resistance to engage the clutching mechanism. For me it is much more comfortable farther down than he showed. The backer box also includes a thicker foam that could eliminate that light leak. I'm not sure about retail. 9:19 while in upscaling the signal switches to same res as normal 8K signal, it is still higher quality because the 8K X has full RGB stripe on the final output where 8K has a sort of pentile pattern. 11:10 I think motion compensation is for stuff like yawvr, canceling out movement from motion platforms so their simulation of acceleration doesn't show up in game as movement. It isn't for improving tracking of he headset by itself (attached steamvr tracker goes on the yawvr chair, etc.)

[@fabriziocentonze1590]

After this review you are my hero! I will follow your videos waiting my extreme 3090 for my Pimax 8K X and Index controllers still in their boxes.

[@pushthebutton4602]

Have they fix the lens distortion now at 170 FOV? Have they built new lenses yet or will they do? Are Pimax going to do a standalone hmd with 140 FOV?

[@metalceesie219]

Strange,you didnt have a crosseyed feeling on the 8k x?Alot off people have this..even while playing with the different sliders..

[@tomc1380]

Thanks for you YT vids mat, I really look forward to watching these. Since I'm kinda an OLED fan-boy I think I'll wait for Pimax to deliver better fast response OLED tech in the near future. Thanks again for your great YT vids mate and best Xmas cheers!

[@virtualjoker9036]

Fellas, I've had the 8K plus and the Artisan at the same time to compare and then I've had this 8KX for a week now and all I can say is WHAT a difference. The cable is way to short, I've pop the cables out of my PC twice already, pain in the ass. I did get to use extender cables that I used for the 8K plus, 6ft and they work great without issues. It did take a little tweaking in the piTool and making sure you adjust the steamVR resolution for sure as if you don't then some games do lag and if the res isn't set for the game properly, like right now I have Half Life Alyx playing perfect with no jittery, So bright and sharp. Awesome job they did with this headset for the $$$

[@sonsolar]

They really need to give us a 60hurts mode

[@brettcameratraveler]

Do the lenses still have a unnatural warping of the image at the far left and right when in the "large" fov mode?

[@TechShizzleRacing]

No warping in Normal mode. Large does introduce some warping at the edges.

[@hugoponders]

Super useful, especially given Pimax's cost and reputation. Not the sort of purchase you want to go into without all the information. Thanks!

[@BabylonBaller]

Appreciate this review bro, and value your opinion. Heading out to buy a new 3090 gaming PC and Pimax 8k x right now!

[@acrock21]

shit man, lucky!

[@claybomb1064]

I want one of these if I can get my hands on a GPU that will run it. I’ve always thought FOV needs to be bigger than the standard headsets!

[@humbleweirdo2860]

I'd like to see the performance improvement when using the eye tracker. Whether its worth the purchase or not.

[@Voldnarok]

Thank you Really informative video

[@KnightMD]

Would be great if you talked about the one big issue with Pimax HMDs: Peripheral field distortion. I sold my Pimax 5K+ a few minutes after putting it on an experiences the fishbowl effect which completely broke immersion for me.

[@eedoamitay3341]

Ty for this comment, and fuck this guys channel

[@Directx11cool]

​@@eedoamitay3341 I don't have any big distortion and get small only at large fov so no big deal for me. I like big fov and cannot get back to toilet paper. Even then I still would like to get a little bit more Vertical Fov. Pimax 8KX+3090

[@siclusiferx]

amazing review, said everything and more, just needed to know more about the performance. Because even a 3090 was suffering.

[@eler6049]

With 3090 you can have 90hz now in nativ mode

[@pawks666]

I think that the "motion compensation" option is probably meant for use with motion platforms (racing or flight simulators...) Can someone confirm if this is true? Also if someone tested this option - does it work well?

[@neurokinetik64ES]

Yes, this is exactly what it is for. I've seen people testing the YawVR motion rig and they mentioned it.

[@Iionmask]

Yes I use it with the YawVR, it works but you can't recenter the view, so the tracker must be near your head and you can't reorientate it, and it hasn't filter for vibrations, OVRMC is much better but it is not compatible with pimax for now. But yes, it works.

[@pawks666]

@@Iionmask thanks for information. I kind of expected there would be some issues. Do you know if pimax offers any option for someone to write their own code for motion compensation and add it as some sort of plugin to pimax software?

[@edwardzdankiewicz9068]

This is a fine review, thank you sir. I am curious, if the game or sim you are using needs keyboard input is there a way to get some sort of pass through view to your real world keyboard? I am not much of a touch typist. And somehow I think having something strapped to your face would make it hard to use a keyboard, or flight sim controller real hardware switches? And what is it like to do normal day to day PC tasks with this on? Is there development in progress for a "VR PC desktop replacement"?

[@ErikHartley]

I don't have the PC to support the 8KX but I still enjoy my 5K+ from time to time. Pimax are field of view royalty.

[@voodoodevr-en]

Thanks Erik! Hope you're fine 😊👍

[@mahdizahirishadbad1875]

Thank you very much for your very good and complete explanation👍👍👍

[@StefVR]

Hi Voodoo, dank dir hab ich die 8k x doch bestellt und WTF bin geflasht. Die ultimative sim racing Brille, da in der peripheren Sicht die Umgebung vorbeizieht kommt endlich das Geschwindigkeitsgefuehl auf. Hab fast alle Headsets durch die ist mit Abstand die geilste für Sim Racing.

[@voodoodevr-en]

👍👍👍

[@seand80]

What software are you using on the left side in the performance test part? Also very nice headset collection!

[@netshaman9918]

Thx for this review ! You should have tested it with foveated rendering on too, for the comparison.

[@netshaman9918]

Thx for this review , all you need now is to test it with the eye tracking module, but didn't you had made this earlier ?

[@johnambers]

Great review. I am really on the fence on this one, but am thinking of getting it. The FOV for me is huge and this does that along with a great resolution. The only concern I have is the FPS at 75. Does the image differ greatly from the straight 4k vs the upscaled image that is able to run at higher FPS? Thanks

[@travism70]

The visual downgrade doesn't merit the increased fps IMO

[@Directx11cool]

For games like Beat Saber I think I would prefer 118 Hz at upscaled mode, but I don't have it now, going to buy this month, so have to test it. Also I play Expert+ maps mostly so for me the difference should be noticeable.

[@johnambers]

@@travism70 Hey Travis do you have one? Is it a huge difference between upscaled and 4k? I would think the upscaled image is still way better than say a Valve Index. With no screen door, better FOV, better color etc. Is that the case?

[@williammumford9890]

@@johnambers I have the 8kx but I honestly haven't even bothered with the upscaled mode. The native image is great and the 75 hz has been perfectly fine and feels completely smooth to me in game. IMO the wide fov and native 4k image are the stars of the headset

[@bystander85]

1440p upscaled to 4K would theoretically look the same as 1440p with the most basic upscaling algorithm (just multiply the pixels) just with a different screendoor effect characteristic. Typically the higher res screens have much lower screendoor effect so you could theoretically get a nicer image. If they use an advanced upscaling algorithm, like Nvidia's DLSS where it predicts where extra pixels would be, then it could have an increase in detail resolution at the expense of introducing visual artifacts where the prediction is inaccurate. The algorithm would basically have to predict curves of more points from fewer points, and would have to add in details in textures from a less detailed texture. Considering there are infinite ways to connect two points, you can imagine the guess can be inaccurate. FPS matters on what kind of games you play. The faster paced the game where response time is important, the better higher FPS will be (e.g. table tennis). I know Oculus made a big deal about 90fps being a minimum based on their research but have since released headsets with 72~80fps since CV1 so... Obviously there are compromises. I've used Oculus Quest at 72fps and for me it's passable.

[@ANJIN79SAMMA]

Thanks for reviewing this! I think this headset is being forgotten about due to G2 but Pimax are the innovators .

[@martinkulik9466]

But oculus most dependable and reliable

[@laqutis1119]

@@martinkulik9466 Nah, plus you have to sell your soul to facebook to use Oculus

[@johnbuscher]

@@martinkulik9466 Oculus had hiccups for me when I was trying to use it in Steam VR, not to mention it’s a pain to lose 2 USB ports for Cameras, which also means more wires running from my computer. Granted, I haven’t used my CV1 in probably a year or more, so more software development from both Oculus and Valve may make it more stable, but in general, it was hit or miss on anything outside of Oculus’s wall garden. It would constantly forget which audio source was the headset and which was my TV, but it would still flip between the two when you activated or deactivated the headset, but that meant audio would be on the headset when I used the TV, and then on the TV when I used the headset. Very annoying. The Quest 2 apparently has phantom issues for some people, like updates not revealing new features. And yeah, giving all your info to Facebook is a hard pass for me.

[@acrock21]

11:10 motion compensation is good for a sim racing (or flight sim) rigs that has motion ... so that when you are (flying) or driving your car and your rig is throwing you all over the place ... it will compensate for that movement so you dont end up clipping through the roof, floor, or the door ect... or just in general excessive movement can cause all sorts of clipping... sometimes motion hardware will also have this setting built into their software to counter the effects.

[@neurokinetik64ES]

What about the visual distortion at the sides? Is that still a thing, or has it improved?

[@voodoodevr-en]

Much improved I only see it a little bit.

[@tedtedsen269]

is it plug and play for my ms2020 flight simulator and will my graphics card have all the connectors ? that it is required

[@Tyke18]

It works easily with msfs. For graphics card, you need a 3000 series really for msfs.

[@Timre23.1]

My friend your videos are amazing. Only contructive advice would be timestamps. For later reference

[@Gregoses]

First you show a video throught the lense where screen door is clearly visible and then some photos that seem out of focus and claim there is no screen door? i mean the pixel grid is annoying even on my G2 for me. Is this better?? thx

[@martinkulik9466]

I thought g2 is better than quest 2 and quest 2 has no screen door

[@Gregoses]

@@martinkulik9466 i have both and quest 2 has lots of screen door, i can even focus on pixels in it, however in the g2 i can only see a grid, the pixels are too small to focus on but they are still clearly visible

[@Gregoses]

Of course both are miles away from my rift s but still not there for me

[@martinkulik9466]

@@Gregoses the only issue with quest 2 for me is binocular effect. I am fine with the screen now. reason I didnt buy quest 1 was pixelation. they could learn from pimax also to include the internal foaming, because that's another thing, but binocular effect and fov are my main concerns for quest 2 right now. pixelation is fine, you have to focus on it to see it and it's not distracting.

[@bogodoyandex9654]

@@martinkulik9466 quest 2 have screen door effect. just look like you put your eye distance 35cm from a monitor 27inch, 1080p. so still can see screen door effect. but already far better than my old oculus go.

[@kbmarines9989]

I always just cut the lights off which takes away from all the light entering the VR Headset!

[@XanderMoss]

Very nice review but there was no comparison with the 8k+. How much better is a native 4k compared to upscaled and how higher the fps get with it. It seams like someone with a 3080 gpu will have a better experience overall with the 8k+ than with the 8kX and most important, less expensive.

[@laartwork]

In my experience the 8kx is sharper but so sharp I can see the pixels. My 8k× is less sharp and very hard to see pixels. I would go for the 8kx though.

[@bogodoyandex9654]

8k+ pixel density are simillar to quest 2. pixel density=resolution/fov

[@kcsnow9447]

The last time I looked in on the 8K X specs, the one disappointment was the lower FPS in full 4K (8K) native mode--75 FPS as I recall. I had the idea at the time that this constraint was actually due to the general inability of affordable graphics cards inability to crank out the pixels...but now that the Nvidia 3000 series are here, I would guess that's no longer a problem--if you can afford an 8K X, the cost of most 3000's isn't that prohibitive. Which begs the question: CAN the 8K X now be run at 90 or even 120Hz in full native mode, or are we still restricted to 75 FPS due to slow arrival of the drivers, or to some hardware limitation on the headset I'm not aware of? THX for any replies or links to more answers about this.

[@DJHeroMasta]

The 75Hz refresh rate is due to various hardware level limitations. You gotta think about the amount of data being transferred over the from the GPU through the cable into the the HMDs chipset. First off the Pimax 8K-X is equipped with a DisplayPort 1.3 cable as is both the Gen 1 HP Reverb and the Reverb G2 (Higher res screens). The Oculus Rift S and Valve Index use DisplayPort 1.2 (Lower res screens). DisplayPort 1.2 has a max supported bandwidth of 21.6Gbps and a max data rate of 17.28Gbps. DP 1.3/1.4 has a max supported bandwidth of 32.40Gbps with a max data rate of 25.92Gbps. DP 2.0 will have a max bandwidth of 80Gbps and a max data rate of 77.37Gbps. The more data that can be transferred allows for an increase in support at higher resolutions, for higher refresh rates. For example, with DP 2.0, we'll be able to run two native 4K displays up to 120hz, 10bpc, with HDR enabled. This can be broken down even further to the finer details but I'd rather not get into that right now. You can look that up yourself if you're truly interested. Otherwise, I'd be writing a little book lol. Edit: Almost forgot, that means that all devices would have to support DP 2.0. So that mean the GPU would have to support DP 2.0 (Which *none* of the current models do. Both AMD and Nvidia's latest and greatest "available" cards are spec'd with DP 1.4 ports with DSC (Display Stream Compression....Again, not going to go into full detail but DCS is a method of compressing data to allow even higher resolutions such as 8K to run at 60Hz and 4K to run at 120Hz with HDR enabled) the HMD would have to have to be equipped with a DP 2.0 Cable or a Type C cable running in "Alt Mode" (which can provide power/charging via the cable as well on top of video & audio data transfer like the Oculus Quest 1&2). And finally, the chipset on the HMD's mainboard must also support DP 2.0 in order for this to all work. But of course the manufacturers wouldn't supply a DP 2.0 cable when the actual headset itself couldn't receive that input. Here are some links for ya as well: uploadvr.com/displayport-2-0/ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort news.developer.nvidia.com/dsc-higher-fidelity-vr/ www.benq.com/en-us/knowledge-center/knowledge/usb-c-introduction-what-is-dp-alt-mode.html And you're welcome! 🤗

[@kcsnow9447]

@@DJHeroMasta Hardware limitations are exactly what I was thinking about, and I think you nailed the bottleneck right there--bandwidth. Even if I had a quad SLI 3080ti rig (I know Nvidia doesn't do quad SLI anymore, but you get the idea)...the limitation would be the pixel-passing power of the 1.3 Display Port itself. If the next version of the 8K X (call it the 8K X2) moves to DP 2.0, it's still not clear to me a triple-sizing of the pixel-pushing pipe would be enough to allow an increase in the framerate. It seems to me if the HMD itself can run its screens @120Hz in one of its modes, it is probably capable of running both screens @120Hz even in full-native mode, provided all the pixels are there for each refresh, so I've assumed the HMD itself has no hardware limitations in and of itself...of course I could be wrong, too, as maybe they just haven't bothered yet to make that possible, since all the required pixels just can't get there...yet. Which leaves me wondering if the move to DP 2.0 and TWO DP on the HMD would be enough to get it done. Hmmmm. Of course that would probably require TWO video cards also...whether SLI or not. Hmmmmmm. I probably couldn't afford all that right now anyway, but it's interesting to speculate. In any case, thanks for your very informative reply. Much appreciated.

[@Directx11cool]

​@@kcsnow9447 Now we get 90 Hz. Are you happy now? But a 3090 can't reach stable 75 in some games even on Normal FoV, so maybe with small fov you can reach 90 fps not only in Beat Saber.

[@charzy11]

Would you buy it if you already had an Index? Mostly for Sim Racing.

[@Marthos01]

Will you revisit the Artisan at some point with KDMAS installed? Love your content as always!

[@pierre1050]

In have the artisan. Really enjoy it

[@Reticuli]

Will this work in wide angle on Windows 7 for DCS and X-Plane... assuming aIso don't care about base stations or controllers or SteamVR?

[@Gorilla_Jones]

I think this is a good alternative to XTAL for regular people. If only Pimax could stop being total chaos company. SMH.

[@janneliiti8898]

Do you have an Xtal

[@Gorilla_Jones]

@@janneliiti8898 Yes, XTAL 8K.

[@666Azmodan666]

I think that xtal is unfortunately extremely too heavy ... not suitable for games most VR players play

[@jareds8729]

how do you like xtal? was thinking of ordering 1 since i only play seated anyways. Has it worked for every app u tried? tried virtual desktop?

[@franciscoribeiro9307]

So the reason I didn't pull the trigger on this isn't really the price but because it didn't seem to offer the strict best in every field. 75 refresh rate just seems a bit lacking compared to most headsets and while it obviously has the widest field of view the hp reverb seems to have it beat in terms of visuals. If you try for the upscale mode then the visuals also take a hit. If pimax could create a headset that could match the visuals of the g2 with maybe a 100 hz refresh rate I think I would buy it immediately.

[@Gorilla_Jones]

75hz is plenty, I know.

[@MaroshBRuNo]

Sorry mate but You dont know until you try. Its the Best availible HMD and iam so grateful to be so lucky to know. Id bet my 8KX that you wouldnt be dissapointed. 😌

[@Directx11cool]

Maybe in the end of next year they will make 4K@120 Hz - but it needs display port 2.0 or HDMI 2.1.

[@MaroshBRuNo]

@@Directx11cool Yes but if you have full 75 fps there really is no problem for me. Alyx is the Best example. Even fast movement is without any problems. And the benefits of Wide FOV and sharpness is breathtaking. As ive said you guys should find a way to try it. Kto je zo západného Slovenska (NR) napíšte a rád predvediem... 😇

[@Directx11cool]

​@@MaroshBRuNo I'm going to buy 8K X next week if they will be in stock(wrote an email to the official shop in Russia, they promised it) :D

[@killerconico5073]

Pi max web page says 75 mm max ipd is this incorrect? That was the reason I ordered one :O

[@Directx11cool]

It's actually 70 and 5 mm plus if you use software ipd adjustment

[@killerconico5073]

@@Directx11cool have you tried the software adjustment? Psvr is terrible ...well guess I’ll find out just waiting for it to pass clearance

[@Directx11cool]

@@killerconico5073 I know it usually awful, but depends on your eyes and form of head. I don't have 8K X now, will get it next week.

[@killerconico5073]

@@Directx11cool nice ! Hopefully it will work my only other option is the cosmos elite currently have the vive pro ,managed to get it to 75.5

[@Directx11cool]

@@killerconico5073 I've got it today, now need some time for testing, but first impression: wow, there is no SDE and huge FOV. And bad sound. But I've knew it, going to use my own headphones. And it's quite heavy, compare to Oculus CV1.

[@henrik1743]

Would you buy this for 22% off its msrp as a first gaming headset for me mainly for racing but also to get into VR? Gonna run it on a 3080

[@voodoodevr-en]

Pimax headsets are not for beginners... I would start with Quest 2

[@henrik1743]

@@voodoodevr-en thanks for a great and honest response sir, appreciated

[@MaroshBRuNo]

Iam on 2080ti for now and iam very very happy with my 8kx. I used HTC Vive and pimax 5k+ but 8kx is what ive been waiting for since the beggining. Still waiting for Deluxe Audio headphones ther are suppose to deliver "soon" but after waiting 8 months for pre order i learned to be patient with pimax. 😌😅

[@tadnyarahul2854]

The 75Hz refresh rate didn't bother you? I am thinking to buy a new 8K X from eBay for $1200 with a deluxe modular audio strap, comfort kit however I also preordered HP G2 a long time back, and still not delivered so thinking to cancel it and buy this 8K X

[@MaroshBRuNo]

@@tadnyarahul2854 no it doesnt bother me and if i were you Id buy it cause the price is simillar to my preorder price i payed 8 months in advance. 😐 Iam still waiting for the Deluxe Audio so iam not sure if amazon really has those... 🤔

[@tadnyarahul2854]

@@MaroshBRuNo Thanks, In my country 41% customs tax on the imported goods so I am sure it will be around $500 and then the total of Pimax 8K X will be $1700 something for me and if in case something wrong then I can't even return it because that eBay seller doesn't have a return policy 😐

[@MaroshBRuNo]

@@tadnyarahul2854 omg! Are you sure you want to risk it? 😬 I believe you chcecked if its a fake seller... And what if something breaks later? There is some kind of warranty right? 😮

[@tadnyarahul2854]

@@MaroshBRuNo No warranty on imported product, But this eBay seller have very positive reviews so maybe I can try because there is no other way I can buy this 8K X😮

[@EM-st8qz]

43:21 Wrong, in DCS World you need 6dof.

[@RetroSnakey]

Love the in depth review! I want the 5K Super to go along my 3090 since I favor higher Hz and FPS over resolution but your 5K Super video mentioned to watch this one for most of the review. Glad to hear it works without the Lighthouse, I want it specifically for Sim Racing so I won't be needing those 2 boxes, nor the controllers. Was just curious, did you test it with a separate headset above it? I have a Steelseries Arctis 7 and I am curious on the fit over the HMD. I have an audio mixer so I won't be using the built-in ones, just wondering how well it would fit around it. Thanks!

[@justanotherdave4835]

Are you changing to this as your daily device or do you still prefer a different headset?

[@markhayward7960]

Is this significantly better clarity than the Index? I bought a Pimax Artisan and it wasnt as good as the Index, so Im a little cautious of Pimax now

[@laartwork]

Artisan is not 4k per eye. 8k+ and X are certainly an upgrade but also comes at a cost in performance so need a beefy rig

[@brent4770]

For sims can you only use one lighthouse for tracking?

[@MrDick410]

probably ok

[@MrDick410]

@Michal Klosowski you should have at least 1

[@tadnyarahul2854]

Do you think Ryzen 5800X + RTX 3080 + 32 GB RAM can give me the results you got with your Pimax 8KX?

[@krimmAnims]

are you serious??? I can't tell if you're joking, of course it can it's top of the line hardware

[@UnnecessaryBelond]

would you recommend it over the reverb g2?

[@voodoodevr-en]

Definitely! I dont like the G2 very much...

[@UnnecessaryBelond]

VoodooDE VR - english version - would you say its the best headset out right now? Would you recommend getting it right now or being patient and see what is coming q3 this year and q2 next year

[@Thuen88]

how do you know if you have the thin or thick foam ?

[@Goldkoron]

Whether your nose is getting crushed or not while wearing.

[@Ujktitru]

Timestamps?

[@ronm6585]

Thanks.

[@joshuamusic8812]

What is your ipd? You said here this headset was fine but you also said you have less than 60 ipd and it has minimum ipd of 60

[@voodoodevr-en]

60

[@nathanm6024]

So the Pimax 8k X has usable inside-out-tracking? Is this true?

[@travism70]

Not inside-out, but 3DOF IMU tracking. Mostly just for sim use.

[@bystander85]

@@travism70 According to the software it's a 9-axis sensor which would be: 3-axis gyroscope, 3-axis accelerometer and 3-axis compass. It's possible you can still get drift over time. I've never tried one so don't know how bad it'll be.

[@TRX25EX]

But isnt Head tracking module add the rest of tracking? That small USB C that goes under headset? If not then theres plenty of devices can be attached and will do just find without the need of all those base stations

[@bogreenslade7491]

I have 8kx with index kit and my tracking on my left controller is only present sometimes I dunno what to do someone plz help I paid all this money

[@williamshaw8604]

check your usb power management is turned off also proper base station placement if this is a new set up. i also have had more luck launching steam vr from pitool as well as the games.launching games from steam home seams to be very buggy and had tracking issues .

[@misoswan1087]

motion compensation it is for moving platform

[@Jakrabat94]

43:34 Conclusion

[@Iionmask]

I have it and I love it. I play a lot of Squadrons with the 8KX and YawVR and it's like being on a StarWars Theme Park, really awesome. I also play it with the Index/ YawVR and it is more like playing a videogame in your room.

[@johnambers]

Hey Mr R Is it a huge difference in game between upscaled and 4k? I want to get this headset but concerned with a max 75FPS. I would think the upscaled image is still way better than say a Valve Index. With no screen door, better FOV, better color etc. Is that the case? Thanks

[@Iionmask]

@@johnambers once you try native you will not go back, but upscaled is not bad, similar to 5k+ or index

[@LarsAgerbk]

36:45 if you got mud in your Pimax Vision 8K X, you're not handlingen it properly :)

[@weirdgiven]

Thanks for the great review. I already sold my Reverb G2, and ordered the 8K X. I couldn't stand the WMR platform. Setting safety boundary is a nightmare itself, and the tracking of the controllers is trash. The controllers' vibrations are also cheap crap and drove me crazy. I shouldn't have bought the Reverb G2 as you already advice at the past vid. I thought, wrongly, that I could manage the crappy tracking with the "Mixed VR" settings. It was wrong, as the mixed setting was nightmare also. The steamvr always forgot the room setting no matter how I play all the stuffs. The calibration was so difficult, and it eventually got drift very quickly. No, I can't explain my frustration, despair, and angry. Just please, don't buy the Reverb G2. Now I ordered the 8K X, and I hope it could give me much better experience than the G2. I used Valve Index for a long time, and want to use some better headset, so buying the Index again was not an option.

[@AlejandroLopez-wy2st]

Pimax 8K X is double the price of G2, and it can't rund solid 90 fps even with the best graphic card of the world as you can see in this video. Its a waste of time, 4k displays 200º FOV is the future, but not at this momment because we don't have the hardware to run it.

[@johnbuscher]

@@AlejandroLopez-wy2st Sure, but that means you can have the headset for a long time while you upgrade GPUs over the years.

[@AlejandroLopez-wy2st]

@@johnbuscher Sure, but that also means that you will have an old technology for the next years, because by the time we have GPUs that can handle those resolutions, we will have a lot better headsets in the market, including facial and eye tracking which will also improve performance. HP Reverb G2 already has a sharper picture, and the Vive Pro 2 will have the same but with 20º more of FOV. I mean... it doesn't worth it to pay 1500€ for a headset that you can't even run with an alien GPU. It is better to buy Quest 2 or HP Reverb G2 and just wait for the technology to keep growing in the next months / years. Regards.

[@giou9671]

I had a similar experience with the G2 and returned it. Did your 8Kx arrive? How do you like it?

[@seraphimelegy6747]

@@AlejandroLopez-wy2st They have upgraded the firmware to 90hz at native resolution. Runs Half Life Alyx fine at 90fps on full settings on my 3080.

[@angelisone]

For viewing only, which VR google has the widest viewing like looking at the cellphone's screen?

[@voodoodevr-en]

I never recommend any Smartphone VR

[@angelisone]

@@voodoodevr-en I only need one for using & putting smart phone in. So which brand & model? Zeiss VR One Plus is not it.

[@ULTRAWIDE.]

Really wish Pimax would do inside out tracking. I'd buy one straight away.

[@KnightMD]

Inside out tracking makes bow and arrow games useless. Makes billiards games useless. It's convenient but also has very bad frustrating.

[@Killadey]

You look like the bloke from The Highlander

[@NightSprinter]

Hmm, beta firmware enables 90Hz in native mode!

[@ExtremeCoding203]

Yes the pimax is a marvelous headset with a large FOV but : - Pimax took almost a YEAR to TRY to ship my headset and finaly could not make it cos tracking station + audio strap was out of stock - when you buy all you need to make it worth it ( the headset + audio strap + valve controlers ) you are around 2300 euros not 1600 like you said. - and even with a 2000 euros graphic card you cannot have at best 75 FPS - Pimax support is total trash so you need 4300 euros to make this run mor or less well with a trash support team that takes WEEKS to answers your problems. So this headset is total bullshit. I asked pimax to refund me and i ordered it A YEAR ago. Still not havemy cash back. I v been waiting for a MONTH now for my refund. going for the G2 instead. regards

[@Gregoses]

this is what i dont understand, how do they ever want to be really succesfull with such shitty behavior. They should also focus on 1 or 2 headsets only so the prices gan go a bit lower

[@ExtremeCoding203]

@@aj2228 that’s not the point Even if you can afford it the pimax 8kx cannot run at 75 fps even with the best pc in the sims games

[@Gregoses]

@@aj2228 the point is if they focused on a few headsets they would be much better quality, they would sell better coz of the price and pimax would be more succesfull

[@martinkulik9466]

Quest 2 costs 350. Worth it

[@diamond4829]

Interested ....I just sent back my HP Reverb G2 as it's a giant steaming pile of dog poo. So many problems 🙁

[@j6077xxd]

Brilliant danke schon

[@MKHAN-uy4gv]

Can you give me 1 reality vr headset?

[@Gorilla_Jones]

No

[@MKHAN-uy4gv]

@@Gorilla_Jones 😳

[@voodoodevr-en]

Hmm... Let me think about it... NO!!!!!1111eleven

[@Hacker4748]

German version / deutsche Version - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGnUYXZ8hc-Xg7s

[@Ata5ll]

but 75FPS??????????????????????

[@hs0003]

90 hz with newest driver and a 3070 or higher (not that anyone can get those gpu's)

[@Directx11cool]

@@hs0003 3070 is too weak for dual 4k(actually much more on Large FoV), even 3080 and 3090 can't reach 75 stable fps in some games. We need 4090 for this+eyetracking.

[@hs0003]

@@Directx11cool Depends on the game, pretty sure a 3070 could drive vrchat in 90 hz. But all I said was the newest drivers changed the hz cap.

[@Directx11cool]

@@hs0003 No way. My 3090 struggle a lot only at 75 hz and I often get drops below 40 because of CPU bound(awful optimization)

[@hs0003]

@@Directx11cool haven't played it, but pick any game that doesn't take any performance to run smooth, you'll have an easier time running those at 90hz than, i.e. elite dangerous in vr.

[@reptilexcq2]

Wow, you GPU temp reached 80 degree Celsius max. And I though 70 was too much lol.

[@Directx11cool]

For GPU 70 and 80 it's ok

[@TRX25EX]

80 not ok for Nvidia GPUs, you lose alot of boost frequency and inconsistent boost, yes it will run normal no issues but you might lose 5-10% of performance because of how boost works in latest RTX cards, so I suggest keep it under 73C, mine around 63C max

[@Directx11cool]

@@TRX25EX I was talking about physical degradation. If you want maximize your boost, you need hold the temperature below 50.

[@TRX25EX]

@@iStrong113 Its not about card will break its about having more consistent boost in the card, RTX 3000 cards boost is much more heat sensitive than previous gens

[@TRX25EX]

@@iStrong113 I have the card and im overclocker and Im top 3 on air 3080 score in the world with 3900X and second with 5800X.... I know what Im talking about, stop your BS and show me one card did on par or better with 80C compared to card 60C just show me one benchmark!!! Even past 50C you lose some boost consistency hence you lose some performance, to keep temps down you need a good cooler card or custom fan curve or better case ventilation.... passing 74-75C you lose a decent amount of boost which could result over 5% performance drop Edit: some numbers for you, on my 3080 avg clock with temps between 52-56C is 2042mhz and peak 2205mhz, with fans on auto temps reach 63-70C avg clocks 1965mhz and peak 2190mhz, I lose around 3% performance score, if you go past 75C its alot worse

[@CrazyAboutVinylRecords]

I bought one and returned it three days later. I think it is a cheap piece of junk.

[@anahata8870]

Runs on 90 and 120 HZ now, native :-)

[@voodoodevr-en]

Yes I made a video about that.

[@anahata8870]

@@voodoodevr-en I did like that ! Thank you

[@UnyPhi]

The lady makes it sound like VooDoody

[@vr_patient7016]

Verkaufe gerade meine Pimax 8kx auf eBay. Neuwertig, kaum genutzt. Mit Original Rechnung und Garantie.

[@MaaZeus]

Hah! Potato setting. Nice to see they have a sense of humor.

[@BurmeseSamosa]

Bro just use Loco Motion

[@vitskr1]

Did you get payed for this review?

[@chrisrin300]

who should do that? he doesn't have the X from Pimax. It is the HMD from another community member.

[@vitskr1]

@@chrisrin300 idk man. i watched his pimax 8k plus review recently and his view of pimax tinkering is completely opposite.

[@regwatson2017]

Frame rates are terrible even on your high end system - god only knows where they'd be on a lesser system. And blurry in the center view. And finally how stupid looking is the headset when it's on your head. People will laugh. Thanks but no way is this on my shopping list.

[@04dram04]

They obviously built the headset to be future proof. The 4000 series cards will likely handle the 8kx, no sweat

[@MedienGulli]

it renders in 2x 4k like what did you expect xD