I spent 13 years basically doing nothing, so don't worry about it.
@alexworld2574 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment AND profile pic
@justjuol37034 жыл бұрын
Sorry dude. 69 likes. Can’t do anything
@janessapagan52144 жыл бұрын
💀💀
@Nawona4 жыл бұрын
*high Five*
@fathiao40124 жыл бұрын
That's my whole life 😂😭.
@themonarch5144 жыл бұрын
Imagine having to keep the art style consistence for more than a decade...
@satendra_sharma4 жыл бұрын
anime : ( ͝° ͜ʖ͡°)ᕤ
@SaphInfection4 жыл бұрын
The Monarch This comment has 69 likes nice
@FOGHEAD_4 жыл бұрын
The artists that can accomplish this deserve some kind of lifetime achievement award
@-blank-47664 жыл бұрын
Onepiece
@amychi_4 жыл бұрын
Oof.. Right..
@like.lauren4 жыл бұрын
Realizing how quick 13 years passes stresses me OUT
@09nob4 жыл бұрын
Not to worry we'll all be dead soon.
@idkdude11184 жыл бұрын
@@09nob thanks :)
@09nob4 жыл бұрын
@@idkdude1118 You're welcome ha ha.
@warbrothers77454 жыл бұрын
Matthew Lawton I’m 37 and this ALL I think about now.. I’m seriously thinking of going to therapy to get over my obsession with how quick time is passing as I age and scurry quickly to my death !!
@09nob4 жыл бұрын
@@warbrothers7745 If you're not familiar with it? look into Zen Bhuddism it's all about being in the moment and there are lots of ideas and practices they use that can be very helpfull to slow time and get the most from it and stop worrying about it, Mindfullness is all nicked from Zen Bhuddism before anyone mentions it but Zen is a much richer and more fullfilling pursuit.
@mysteriousgal79644 жыл бұрын
And then there’s the issue of procrastination.
@firebal61294 жыл бұрын
...yeah... that'd be me
@Guppynator254 жыл бұрын
Firebal612 me 3
@ragmamale47834 жыл бұрын
Yesh that's me
@jackie5114 жыл бұрын
procrastinating rn 😩
@spacespider77344 жыл бұрын
But I CANT wanna crosshatch right now,,, I have to sell my fake turnips on my Nintendo game to pay off my debts to an evil raccoon... And I also don’t want to worry about the real crippling debt
@bananapy72785 жыл бұрын
But dude, it looks like a freakin' masterpiece with its details! Its pretty unique looking from other comics nowadays.
@gemgem24able4 жыл бұрын
Yah but imagine making only one project every 13 years. He gotta make money too, you know. It's an industry after all
@FOGHEAD_4 жыл бұрын
Kuuryo , well said...
@slsthewriter12994 жыл бұрын
@Kuuryo There's a difference between taking your time for something as religiously significant as the Chapel, versus something you feel like doing and want to make money off of. The majority of his points were more geared towards adding so much detail that it took more time to replicate. If the ceiling of the Chapel was a comic, Michelangelo would definitely have skipped out on some details. And even then, do you think that painting took 13 years? You forget just how fecking long 13 years is. I get it, there *is* definitely a time and a place for everything, but in a world where (morbidly) death *is* the passage of time, you gotta play it smart. And, 9/10, cutting your corners and your losses leads to new and interesting things in the long run.
@paultran44744 жыл бұрын
@@gemgem24able Yup. It's not like he's able to charge 13x as much as comics that take 1 year to make.
@michaelmartin90224 жыл бұрын
@Kuuryo He probably didn't need such detailed backgrounds in every panel, though. Like the train station example, he said it could have been a street corner. Nah, it could still be a train station, just do one decently-rendered "setting the scene" panel, then the rest of the scene can just be the characters talking with far simpler backgrounds that just suggest a train station.
@Ben31337l4 жыл бұрын
I wish that we lived for 1000 - 2000 years so we could have the time to invest passion into creative works.
@spring76434 жыл бұрын
Me too
@animatorireenie83193 жыл бұрын
Would be great... Hope it'll be able one day.
@moodybash73343 жыл бұрын
People in the past lived more than 1000 years 😌
@jonathanSpg3 жыл бұрын
The more years you live the smaller 1 year looks and because of that time goes fast like when ur 1 year old 1 year is the span of your whole life so its longer when your 2 year old 1 year is just half ur life so it feels like less time....
@Ben31337l3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanSpg it really is true
@merrickwells75195 жыл бұрын
I mean, yes, while 13 years seems insane, I'd say it really, really paid off. Your work here is gorgeous
@barrelbarry99404 жыл бұрын
some scenes are, but that train station goodbye scene is mediocre
@blankflank34884 жыл бұрын
I mean, did it really PAY off tho?
@ernodios4 жыл бұрын
His rent /mortgage probably disagrees
@Trailtracker4 жыл бұрын
the difference between being considered underrated in 20 years and actually gaining something from a project in the now is a vast one
@HokShunPoon4 жыл бұрын
Well if anybody was to say that in hindsight saving time is a good idea it'd have to be the guy who spent 13 years finishing one piece of work. I'd like to think there's people out there who never finish projects who would advocate for spending more time and dedication to their projects even if it feels like time is being wasted. Tonoharu looks absolutely amazing =]
@thecolorpurple64014 жыл бұрын
So basically: *Cut corners and be lazy.* Arright, I'm down.
@ClockworkCrusader3 жыл бұрын
Art is art you can do what you want either work hard or not. So yeah embrace lazy
@angrydinosaur88533 жыл бұрын
i think that ”work smarter, not harder” really applies here
@Romeo-le2ez3 жыл бұрын
Ani me girl
@AvoytDesign3 жыл бұрын
you joke but yeah, that's exactly it
@aariza.rahman30963 жыл бұрын
Terrible generalisation.
@austinmcconnell3 жыл бұрын
I really, really enjoyed this video. Just ordered the Tonoharu trilogy as a result, and I'm looking forward to jumping in. Hope you're doing well, Lars.
@lizziestired3 жыл бұрын
oh hey its austin mconell
@useful56423 жыл бұрын
wtf i did not expect to see you here austin, how odd
@askinredroads51323 жыл бұрын
Im thinking of picking it up myself, how is it?
@silenceofthehills76103 жыл бұрын
I love you, Austin.
@cuboidgamez75773 жыл бұрын
Hello hope you're having a great day!
@ziiiboom6 жыл бұрын
Draw a comic without cross-hatching and you can get a 1000X speed boost.
@miketheartist68655 жыл бұрын
Tell me, do you draw art? So?
@potatoraider73205 жыл бұрын
@@miketheartist6865 i have tried stippling, scribbling, and hatching.... simply using these shading techniques are very time consuming when you work on a sheet the size of A4. Also they have principles you have to follow, if you dont follow the principles you end up with ugly results.
@potatoraider73205 жыл бұрын
@@jjsamuelgunn1136 not everyone uses digital
@potatoraider73205 жыл бұрын
@@jjsamuelgunn1136 i think most of your statement is unnecessary... its an overkill to be honest You couldve left it with just "i agree, not everyone uses digital because they dont have the tools to be able to do so"
@potatoraider73205 жыл бұрын
@@jjsamuelgunn1136 dude, chill... Why are you mad?
@helium-3796 жыл бұрын
"Work smarter, not harder" should the moto.
@purpleey6 жыл бұрын
work both smarter and harder
@krofnica15 жыл бұрын
@@purpleey well said
@poopcock43575 жыл бұрын
moto moto?
@retrogamer75435 жыл бұрын
I think moto moto likes you
@heyryanisonx31415 жыл бұрын
There's a poster in my classroom that our teacher talked about on the first day that says "Work smarter, not harder" and the "not" is crossed out and replaced with "and"
@bruna75344 жыл бұрын
One tip I want to share: Don't be ashamed to stay in your comfort zone sometimes. Surely, you must try new things and work on your weakness, but not in an actual work. If you're not that good in scenarios, don't push yourself too much, instead, invest on your strengths, drawing better facial expressions, body language, effects. Study scenarios in a sketch book or individual drawings. Don't be ashamed to use technologies help to cover it. Also, if you learn how to work on it, it will be your art style, and it's even better than being averagely good at everything, because you will not be a master in everything.
@user-pr6gn2un8z2 жыл бұрын
Screenshotting your comment for future advice! Thanks
@moonoftheblood Жыл бұрын
Thank you:D
@scalyfoot81425 жыл бұрын
tldr: the only reason this happened is because he spent 90% of his time crosshatching dont be this man
@Themambaproject4 жыл бұрын
That is wicked ..LOL
@fiercekitty49824 жыл бұрын
@Augustine Lobo exactly, the type of shading he uses is very time consuming (but it looks pretty if you ask me)
@KOTEBANAROT4 жыл бұрын
Ever wanted to spend like a week on a single drawing while also destroying your wrist? Crosshatching is the answer
@orbeezslurper4 жыл бұрын
@@fiercekitty4982 i feel like he could do it faster if he like scanned in the unhatched version and did the lines digitally imo
@ernodios4 жыл бұрын
@BoxCrossed way to go!! That my friend is the right answer
@Gogglesofkrome4 жыл бұрын
I'm 22 and I feel like my life has been wasted up until this point already. Even though I'm still young in the eyes of many, I can't help but have this horrifying urge to accomplish 'something,' before this time begins to run short. This vid and some of the apathetic comments in the comment section really help frame it for me that I'm not wrong at worrying, however I am still wrong for being perfectionistic. Fantastic vid, really sets things into stone that the only way forward is to 'just do it,' like so many others have said. Shart out a basic low detail premise, and build up things from there.
@Greg128394 жыл бұрын
I feel that way now at 18
@anarcho-doodles15964 жыл бұрын
@@Greg12839 same and I'm 13
@philltheotherguy18684 жыл бұрын
You should start with a throwaway idea and not be afraid have it end up crappy.
@Gogglesofkrome4 жыл бұрын
@@philltheotherguy1868 aye, since this point I'd been placing responsibility on myself through a schedule, and by organizing my efforts so that I keep my focus singular. It places a responsibility for me to focus and discuss either with others or with myself the concepts that I need to learn. If anything this pandemic has been a godsend for me to really sit down and make things happen.
@terminalpictures4 жыл бұрын
That's the way you should feel. Life is over before you know it so get to fucking work, kid!
@the9file Жыл бұрын
4:39 fail faster 5:43 embrace creative laziness 8:08 pick your battles 9:38 let nothing be sacred
@kayz1832 Жыл бұрын
Ty
@Christian_Bale_fr Жыл бұрын
gonna eat u like a burbe as thank u
@shjilz Жыл бұрын
@evanshlom1 > makes a greentext > on youtube
@untitledESCAPEROOMproject6 жыл бұрын
To all younger artists, embracing a faster and more efficient work flow is not only is faster, it allows your art to be more financially rewarding (because Time IS Money), and being more able to survive off your creative works means you'll be able to do it more rather than working other jobs. So faster and more efficient is not only faster, but buys you more time to continue to work on your art. It really is a win win. Hearing Lars story in this video is like the nightmare scenario that every young stubborn artist could fall into, and commiting to finishing a project under the conditions that such a young stubborn artist would set for themselves, well as Lars said, it took 13 years :( At least Lars didn't fall for another common stubborn young artist notion, that reference photos are cheating, and that EVERYTHING should come from pure imagination.
@Captain_MonsterFart5 жыл бұрын
Sure, but how many people will ever make money from their self published books anyway?
@zombrexgame66705 жыл бұрын
How can I publish a comic and manga? And maybe win money?
@PengyDraws5 жыл бұрын
Wow. I'm.... suddenly glad for embracing the teachings of efficiency and laziness so early in my life.
@jtech45 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I need to learn to beat that second bad habit!
@docas5185 жыл бұрын
@@Captain_MonsterFart The chances of you making money if you publish 1 book a year are higher than if you make 1 book every 5 years.
@RockLockster5 жыл бұрын
I would have appreciated it if you had made this video 35 seconds longer.
@sudokms5 жыл бұрын
Curtis Lock ouch
@emily.g42405 жыл бұрын
Oof
@rft15095 жыл бұрын
yeaa would match the title somehow lol
@GoDUsopp-gk2fx5 жыл бұрын
That would be a meta-meme
@cheesyquokka5 жыл бұрын
haha
@sleepycyborg32413 жыл бұрын
Little tip for digital crosshatching: you don’t have to draw all the lines, you can draw 6 or 7 lines and just copy & paste and it can look just as good
@xxscribbledragonxx9744 Жыл бұрын
old comment ik but look up hatching brushes! you can even avoid doing that 😆
@banquo4223 Жыл бұрын
@@xxscribbledragonxx9744 just about to say the same, my life changed when I got procreate lol I was basically using mspaint before
@Drawperfectcircles Жыл бұрын
Ibis paint also have hatching brushes😇. Don’t copy and paste lines
@DJarry39411 ай бұрын
Exactly. I have a style already, and was trained in drawing class that minute detail can detract from the impact of the image, and message you are trying to convey. I learned how to “abbreviate” the image.
@aemonwarrick46545 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. The irony is the Japanese have always mastered 'cheats' in manga and anime for decades.
@JamieRobles14 жыл бұрын
They also start their careers in middle school. Check out Death Note and Bakuman for reference.
@andrehashimoto80564 жыл бұрын
@@JamieRobles1, they had to... Either you make the delivery on time or an ax hits your series...
@lucianaproano41094 жыл бұрын
What are the cheats?
@aemonwarrick46544 жыл бұрын
@@lucianaproano4109 Swiping is one of them. Reusing the same image over and over again like furniture. There is a book on it by a guy named Macleod about comics and manga.
@carso15003 жыл бұрын
@@aemonwarrick4654 to be fair in the days of old those same tricks where used by everyone on the industry not just Japan, and they where used because if you didnt use them the cost of the series could very easily spiral out of control, now a days thanks to computers it's easier to actually anímate stuff instead of taking a thousand shortcuts
@chromaticelegy10876 жыл бұрын
I got a hand cramp just from looking at all of that cross-hatching. Definitely going to buy your books both out of respect and as a cautionary reminder.
@officialellimac2624 жыл бұрын
I read the title as “from a guy who spent 13 years in a coma.” Like goodness, don’t be so hard on yourself, you’re a medical miracle!
@princessmae34574 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@qwe_qwe62993 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@andeleon68383 жыл бұрын
Lmaooooo what time saving tips would he give if that's the case? 😂
@lovekira7933 жыл бұрын
@@andeleon6838 "If you wanna do stuff wake up. Comas are too time consuming. Don't do them.",
@Craftsworldsocial6 жыл бұрын
This is a really cool thing you talked about. I too have suffered with the pointless detail and backgrounds thing. It's nice to know that it's not just me
@myrtleapple63146 жыл бұрын
H.C.Brown hey holly love your channel and your art ❤️
@thetwilighthunter11506 жыл бұрын
Hey It’s Holly!
@Rozdlc6 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie. When I saw the detailed background I was reminded of Purgatory. Not that it's necessaryly a bad thing XD
@georgette51246 жыл бұрын
Haha, it seems like every second video I click on has your comment beneath it!
@maidenlace49956 жыл бұрын
Oh mah god it's mommy
@thebradcolbow6 жыл бұрын
Great lessons thanks for sharing. It really does look absolutely stunning even if it took forever.
@larsmartinson6 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Your channel is great by the way, I remember looking through your videos when I was tablet shopping!
@agwayn6 жыл бұрын
Brad Colbow I
@atilab99draws586 жыл бұрын
maybe it looks good BECAUSE it took forever?
@thisismychannel6076 жыл бұрын
larsmartinson just curious, how much did your book make you? Great video btw
@firstnamelastname9016 жыл бұрын
Atila Balint I think they already know that.
@booradleyfromthemovietokil15824 жыл бұрын
"Never discourage anyone who continually makes progress, no matter how slow." -Plato
@EvanBivins5 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is an amazing display of self reflection and very helpful to all kinds of creators. BUT, holy crap, Tonoharu is flipping gorgeous.
@IAMSOUND994 жыл бұрын
cmon it's trash
@HOPEfullBoi014 жыл бұрын
@@IAMSOUND99 Hi Trash! That's... an interesting name haha... And I'm a user with an actual brain, unpleased to meet you! (:^>
@IAMSOUND994 жыл бұрын
@@HOPEfullBoi01 ok genius
@thetramp1234 жыл бұрын
Maybe instead of calling it laziness call it something like "utilizing more efficient methods."
@andrehashimoto80564 жыл бұрын
Both fit the bill.... Be lazy is a bullet point, so short and to the point (even if in a rather extremely simplified way) is what it should be That point should just be reasoned as to not be ashamed/afraid of cutting corners or doing things the easier way, you aren't trying to sell Forbes 500 price tag stuff, you're trying to sell at most a European Premium comic (100-120 USD tag and a Graphic novel at 100-140 pages with full story in it, not multiple part, three to five volumes stories)
@pandaexpress76734 жыл бұрын
Lazy isn't necessarily a bad trait, but if it's the only trait then yeah
@fatcat1414 Жыл бұрын
Efficiency still carries the air of perfectionism that this video wants to help tame, I think. Laziness has a connotation that prioritizes the well-being and enjoyment of the artist over the outcome of the work. I know many artists that would be better off indulging in healthy amounts of 'I could, but I don't want to.'
@aedaniammx7559 Жыл бұрын
I for one am all for the glorification of laziness tbh
@darkpinkgirl6684 Жыл бұрын
work smarter, not harder
@theothercomicguy2 жыл бұрын
Could be worse, you could be 42 and have procrastinated for 26 years and make excuses for not ever starting. You did fantastic.
@theothercomicguy2 жыл бұрын
Ps thanks for the time saving tips.
@001variation Жыл бұрын
Or, you get halfway through, realize deep down it's not working and you should quit, but due to sunk-cost fallacy you lie to yourself and waste another 6.5 years on crap
@Zedryx69 Жыл бұрын
*cough cough* yandere dev *cough*
@user-fe8gx3ie5v Жыл бұрын
@@Zedryx69 The opposite. He worked through the game for years now, perfect or not.
@Zedryx69 Жыл бұрын
@@user-fe8gx3ie5v this reply was 4 months ago.
@Daidus6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson, I'mma try to keep these in my subconscious
@sola92196 жыл бұрын
Daidus Notice me senpai :
@sunkamau1406 жыл бұрын
SQUID NEUTRAL
@Me-rd7po6 жыл бұрын
What are You doing here ?
@pepethefrog49326 жыл бұрын
Wut?
@kesal_ag6 жыл бұрын
MiraiKim 👋
@justletmelistthese5 жыл бұрын
it took me 8 minutes to understand every hatching was by hand... dude... wow.
@animandrw48444 жыл бұрын
dude you finished something. that is more than the mostly did in 13 years
@JamieRobles14 жыл бұрын
*waves* over here. But I really shouldn't be down about it. There are a lot of graduates that have to grapple with the quicksand called debt after the fact.
@DrAdnan5 жыл бұрын
Seems like it took over 10,000 hours, so it must be a masterpiece.
@FOGHEAD_4 жыл бұрын
Adnan A , IMO just judging from the samples in the video it looks to be a masterpiece
@MaximumCarne3 жыл бұрын
Or a huge waste of time
@Aidenkun645 жыл бұрын
As a perfectionist myself this video was very helpful for me since I'm working on a comic right now.
@mercy50045 жыл бұрын
I tend to be perfectionistic too...and the best advice I ever got from a teacher was to just stand five feet away from whatever I'm doing to make sure I'm not going too crazy. On digital work I just keep the navigator window open, but pretty small, so I can look over and see the piece "far away". It helps me to see what is important to render, and what's unimportant. Like right now, I'm looking at a fanart of Lyn im doing, and its clear that I need to render out her boots more than lets say...her eye or rope. On those, its clear on the navigator that the line art I made is doing all the "detail" work for me (even though thats very simple itself) so that lets me save time on coloring it. Whereas the boots/dress takes up far more room, is more visually important, and has less lines, so more detail is needed in the color stage. And when I feel like I'm getting frustrated by the work, I just get up and walk away for an hour, and then do a "walking pass". I just glance over while walking to do something else, and ususally I find that whatever I was getting upset over just doesnt matter because you don't even notice it anymore! the above things have helped me so much in regards to my mental health and speed. Now instead of 1 art piece per like, two weeks, I can output 1 every day or two (and I like the painterly style).
@maty77784 жыл бұрын
I hope yours turns out well!
@nothingposted90564 жыл бұрын
"Inspired by 19th century illustrations" You fool
@gunby93224 жыл бұрын
NothingPosted905 but why
@nothingposted90564 жыл бұрын
@@gunby9322 because it takes forever
@woodlhy4 жыл бұрын
hahahahhahahaha
@lucidmoth10234 жыл бұрын
@Joshua Peter Yeah but I mean it still took him forever.
@getthatkatching32524 жыл бұрын
I'm your 1000th lol, just saying
@jayexonauts55878 жыл бұрын
Not just illustrators--ALL creatives could benefit from these lessons. Thank you Lars!
@James-pb8xu6 жыл бұрын
What could he do to do better? Oh wait, you’re just a troll.
@foxygrin6 жыл бұрын
I'm still impressed you even managed to finish a huge story like this, let alone in a way that is this incredibly time consuming!
@emmagrove6491 Жыл бұрын
As a graphic novelist/artist/writer, I think it IS important that you work efficiently. Not quickly, efficiently. Making sure every minute at your drafting table is spent wisely. r.e.: Spend an entire day or two inking a detailed establishing shot, but minimize background detail once the focus is on the characters. In the end, this will allow you to work faster.
@sildyboi22955 жыл бұрын
Even if it took so long, you’ve gotta appreciate all the detail that goes into each panel. It’s amazing, time consuming, but amazing.
@shimi_ek6 жыл бұрын
Besides giving people a couple sweet tips, this video is also an excellent, non-intrusive promotion to the book. Well done.
@johnfist62204 жыл бұрын
I know that feel. I spent 13 years making a fake language. Yesterday I sat on a bench and laid out 13 stones to try to visualise the time I've spent, so it's weird that this video was recommended to me today.
@liimlsan33 жыл бұрын
As a conlanger who's only beginning to feel her language is real and supple after four years of tinkering, I salute you. Really. At present, the only real financial future I see in it is selling my friends calligraphy tattoo designs, but I'm glad I'm making it.
@eggfucker2electricboogaloo4523 жыл бұрын
@@liimlsan3 Share, now
@liimlsan33 жыл бұрын
@@eggfucker2electricboogaloo452 Here, have a song. 🎶 Yoya ngi a mhara mhrama ma ka Samhaj a ngrongi mi, ngi mig, yo ten Amnu syazhla slam ten, mhin kagdr yo Lado ya shilnd ramm, lada nur ya ngi mha semh, Yo kemhon a ya mlis tol a ya yo wo mhin mijon, Ya ngrog samhaj, rig, [Yo] Mingi a ya renzuda, Mingi a ya mozadiz, Mingi yo ajrughrin, mme mhijl khajl ya Mingi a ya sta tsil mi mlya, Mingi “athyo shu” tol, Mingi mmij tol mharugzha, mme wicjikh ya. 1s.2s NEG towards love stranger PL COP 2s rule PL.def, NEG PL.indef, 1s same. Every livelihood object same (shared), PLUP think 1s, SUBJ.if 2s other man, SUBJ.then difference 2s NEG from.a.person get, 1s just towards 2s desire say towards 2s 1s the-one-who* PLUP emote, *(O turns to Wo to avoid a mora with “yo”) 2s grok know, imperative, [1s] FUT.NEG towards 2s relinquish, FUT.NEG towards 2s disappoint, FUT.NEG 1s roam, verbal.and desert volitive.from 2s FUT.NEG towards 2s cause tear PL GEN.2s FUT.NEG “I’ll be gone” say, FUT.NEG Emphatic.FUT say lie, verbal.and “slice” [emotionally wound] 2s (I won't bore you guys with IPA, just know that a J means the previous word is palatalized (Aj and Ij as in May and My, Nj as in "cañon," Cj is an unvoiced laminopalatal approximant), Mh is a voiced bilabial approximant, U's are always schwas, th's are always voiced, and the Dr is a dental ejective combined with a retroflex alveolar tap. "Aw" and "ur" are pronounced with heavy vocal fry. The cat species who speaks it merely purr, that's how a human approximates it. I promise I have multiple orthographies. For instance, the language name is Kajnjama in 90% of writing, Kaynyama in the text of my friend's in progress novel, and Käñama when I talk to conlangers who are allergic to digraphs.)
@starmorpheus2 жыл бұрын
@@liimlsan3 I have no idea what any of those words you wrote mean, but I know that linguistics is diffcult, so bravo!
@liimlsan32 жыл бұрын
@@starmorpheus (It's literally a rickroll.)
@imatiredSara8 жыл бұрын
Totes useful tips, but I just wanna say it may have taken 13 years but you've created something truly incredible Keep up the great work man!! (( but definitely keep your tips in mind xDD))
@larsmartinson8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words!
@michellew.36916 жыл бұрын
Hi Lars Martinson: Here is an idea for you to speed up your scene texture creation. Do an handpainted crosshatching texture. Scan it. Bring it to Photoshop. Make the edges seamless to bring in your scanned line-drawing to life. Just choose from a predefined crosshatch textures and fill the space between your line-drawings with it. This would be even possible 13 years ago. What do you think about it? Greeting from Germany! And thank you for advice & inspirational dedication to artistry!
@ashlynx60595 жыл бұрын
The Mangaka from Solarin and good night pun pun das something simliar :D
@romandorin5 жыл бұрын
It's cheating!
@celestinahuang34835 жыл бұрын
@@romandorin it's not really cheating if it's more effective
@Captain_MonsterFart5 жыл бұрын
Lame. Computers are turning comics into an assembly line art form. There' some software that now can read a photo and create a 3d digital figure to trace. More and more you don't even have to be good at drawing. Long live gorgeous india ink and cross hatching by hand.
@stroopwafelfalafel5 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea! If you do cross hatching well, all of your lines are supposed to be consistent. By doing it on a computer, you save time, and no one can tell the difference.
@jt0n4 жыл бұрын
"Fail Faster" really hit me, this speaks to me no joke
@DylanEdgeMusic6 жыл бұрын
This guy regrets too much. Be proud of yourself.
@drsupermonk78316 жыл бұрын
Dylan Edge 13 years is a long time for a project though. If you want to be efficient and produce the works you plan to make after the current one, efficiency is vital
@shashemption5 жыл бұрын
Efficiency >> Perfection
@GigawingsVideo5 жыл бұрын
Artists tend to be like that. Even great painters tend to see their old paintings and think "Oh god I drew that? I need to get better!"
@AlexasAlejandraencor5 жыл бұрын
I think there is value in regretting, you get to learn and change something you disliked. That doesn’t take value away from his work but it does help develop a better approach for future projects. Like he said he’d love to do the same thing, but he’d also love to be more efficient and put more of his work out there... preferably before he hits his 70s
@khatunamezvrishvili62115 жыл бұрын
if you wasted 13 years on a project that that could easily be done in a few years, would you be super proud? that's a really big mistake
@Zero-nz1rr5 жыл бұрын
Lars: I spend 13 years on a comic *Hirohiko Araki has joined the chat*
@regushi37334 жыл бұрын
MUHAHAHAHAHA REALLY But we should agree, that Araki did a great job :_) and so Lars did...
@joshuashakir27724 жыл бұрын
lol
@alexworld2574 жыл бұрын
He made about 100 times more stuff with his time, though.
@Sprottel_SFM4 жыл бұрын
And its being referenced in every anime possible
@Somespideronline4 жыл бұрын
Zer0 ever heard of Kentaro Miura?
@dreamsprayanimation4 жыл бұрын
Samurai Jack is a great example of an art style that is extremely simple yet effective at storytelling.
@VERY_TALL_MAN6 жыл бұрын
Do you do other work to sustain yourself? How did you live without publishing anything for 13 years?
@aislingdraconicus8255 жыл бұрын
yes this is a legitimate question please mr. lars, tell us, how did you do that?
@IllBeDARNd5 жыл бұрын
I would imagine that he obviously did other work, which contributed to shifting priorities aways from tomoharu
@SkyKing87075 жыл бұрын
its no questions that he had to work other things
@ImprovingAbility5 жыл бұрын
there's the unemployed poor and the unemployed rich
@Alakarin5 жыл бұрын
I mean Tonoharu is about his experience teaching english in japan. So he was possibly doing that.
@CkArtGirl75 жыл бұрын
You and I must be siblings. This is SO me, to the point of hand-illustrating an entire graphic novel over YEARS...and I do the same in my fine art. Great video! I actually am 50, and have to get my next sequential art book done BEFORE Comicon next year, and this helps!
@antrant75333 жыл бұрын
How did it go??
@endernightthedrokain17703 жыл бұрын
As a young 14 year old creative trying to get my big ideas (that I've had since 6th grade) down. I appreciate that I'm not alone on the stubborn creative path and that you took the time to make this video for advice.
@djan71 Жыл бұрын
How's it going with your work now?
@natman2939 Жыл бұрын
since the 6th grade.....so like 3 years? I guess that is a pretty long time when you're only 14 haha
@PancakeTheKat Жыл бұрын
Oh same, I’m 14 too! I’m trying to create a webcomic with tons of action and stuff but mostly am a character designer. How’s your creative path going?
@Zedryx69 Жыл бұрын
@@PancakeTheKat they made this comment 2 years ago they're 16 now
@Awesomepedia6 жыл бұрын
Great video! The "creative laziness" is something I really believe in. For example I like animating but I don't want to produce "just" impressive animation craft; I want to tell a story as efficiently as possible. I'm not a big studio so I HAVE to cut corners, but if I spend a lot of work and effort on the story, then those corners won't matter.
@PHSPictures6 жыл бұрын
Awesomepedia I totally agree with that.
@theartprojectsxdXdhowtodraw6 жыл бұрын
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@captainmario_5 жыл бұрын
To make a video like this, you've definitely got this! My senior thesis, hand-drawn animation took me five months in terms of actually starting the drawings, and I learned quickly that my 7,000 plus frames project needed as many boosts as I could get! That included reusing drawings, slight animations (like in Lupin III here), re-using pieces from the actual animatic, and "lightly coloring" the whole project to save time, leading to a twist in the story that the ending scene brought "life" to the character's world by only fully coloring final scene. If you remind yourself deadlines like this you'll be fine!
@psychicghost67044 жыл бұрын
As a stubborn perfectionist, this video really hit me hard
@Edotter6 жыл бұрын
Wally Wood's famous rules: "Never draw what you can trace, never trace what you can Xerox, never Xerox what you can cut out and paste down". Swing these forward into the Photoshop era.
@jeremycole21646 жыл бұрын
That's pretty good advice! Thanks for spreading the word.
@pasjan11836 жыл бұрын
Edotter xerox?
@iendedyoui5 жыл бұрын
@@pasjan1183 XD They make printers, which can scan documents.
@gunshot9115 жыл бұрын
@@pasjan1183 thought I was the only one who was gonna ask that.. pft us photoshop era youngsters right
@GregLopesArt6 жыл бұрын
On a positive note, you made the work of your dreams and as an illustrator I both say it’s admirable the level of detail, and that it looks beautiful, too. I believe what’s really important, in the end, is finishing what we started with so much passion. So, thanks for the video (also as an illustrator, but one trying to create comics).
@never-books Жыл бұрын
Maybe this is because Lars' writing is excellent, or maybe because he is less capricious than I am, but another reason I personally want to work more quickly is to get the work out there before I feel entirely disconnected from it! It's not uncommon for me to get bored with even the best ideas for books way before they're published, and the more quickly I can get them out into the world, the more I can get to move on to exciting new projects that fit where I am at. Anyone's idea of an amazing project might be entirely different at 25 than it is at 38. That doesn't mean either is bad, they just are a better fit for where you are at in your life. Getting stuck on a project your past self decided was important enough to invest 13 years in might keep you from creating something that could have been important to you at 29 or 34.
@coentertainer6 жыл бұрын
This is next level marketing
@DinoDays7036 жыл бұрын
Oof
@EmyGrachy6 жыл бұрын
but ain't nobody complainin'
@lovetownsend6 жыл бұрын
I know SOOO many manga authors burn out :/ it's sad, it makes a lot of manga/anime super shitty CG or poor design cause it's faster and cheaper. Look at Berserk though, one of if not the greatest manga, it gets released once a year if that, 1 book! But it's flawless. Where'as Vagabond was written like that and the author just burned out and never finished it
Lol, if I killed you, id get 100 million dollars, hehe
@kuronoroux88645 жыл бұрын
Vagabond is finished. It was shown in a private art exposition
@Somespideronline4 жыл бұрын
Lu Rohr lmao no
@Somespideronline4 жыл бұрын
lovetownsend a man of culture mentioning Berserk and Vagabond.
@barneyy69424 жыл бұрын
Wanna know my thoughts? I think your comic book was really under-appreciated. I really love artistic pieces which show that the artist a lot of work in detailing them. It's a real joy. I wish your comic had gotten really famous. I know how you feel. Please don't stop doing what you do. You're amazing!!
@jerkestperson95776 жыл бұрын
As an artist, your comic is worth it. It would take me days to finish your comics, I would stare at your art and appreciate each details. Your comic is beautiful ❤️❤️❤️
@mykar.4186 жыл бұрын
6:10 "Look at those sellouts...actually getting stuff DONE" "SNORT"
@kavanpatel38364 жыл бұрын
Artists work hard for years to create this stuff, unfortunately many people download it for free from somewhere
@5moomin58 жыл бұрын
"Sometimes, magic is just someone spending more time on something than anyone else might reasonably expect." - Teller. I would worry about losing some of the magic. Productivity for the sake of productivity can be a red herring, if you want to do something great. That being said, I write small things every day, no matter what, and it's been super fulfilling and artistically productive, so there may be a middle ground.
@larsmartinson8 жыл бұрын
Great quote. And definitely , I think finding a good balance between productivity and quality is crucial (easier said than done).
@ScottSerkland7 жыл бұрын
Great tips! For a cartoonist with a long term project this really spoke to me. And for the record, speaking for myself and not for the people complaining because the tips don't start until 3:35, I found the fist four minutes and thirty five seconds well worth listing to.
@r.gonzalez-arangolopez84203 жыл бұрын
I bought the Tonoharu series and enjoyed it. So, your 13 years of work were well worth it, in my opinion. Thank you.
@Kaitopia_7 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem, I want to make everything so unnecessarily detailed that it takes me a long time just to finish a page. I really admire you for not losing your will to continue drawing Tonoharu all those years, it must been hard
@kerryw.burdjr.33535 жыл бұрын
By not going a digital route AND choosing cross-hatching with an ink well, you weren't going to see your vision published in under 10 years. I'm impressed you could draw and store 10+ years worth of artwork and keep the style consistency perfect. I loved this inspiring, retrospective, behind-the-scenes documentary. In a digital world owned by Adobe products, this old school work will continue to blow me away.
@TrippVomit6663 жыл бұрын
Thats like studio ghibli levels of dedication. The video should actually be called,”I am a legend and my arts gonna last forever and if you arent willing to take serious time to craft your art give up!”
@ArtCreatorsChannel6 жыл бұрын
I think Tonoharu is quite an achievement, and it's good to hear you say that you are still proud of your work! Regardless of your change of heart to now "embrace laziness" and to "compromise" your future creative visions, it's great that at the time you apparently felt you did have something precious and sacred to produce, and that it was worth fighting for!! Finishing a whole trilogy of graphic novels totaling almost 500 pages in a little over 12 years is quite an achievement, and actually pretty damn fast in my estimation! Considering the level of detail in the books, it's kind of amazing you got that much done so quickly! And considering how young you were when you started, I am really impressed with the whole thing! Great job!!
@FerintoshFarmsPhotography6 жыл бұрын
Na, you got it all wrong lars, you've already created hundreds of masterpieces you're just counting wrong. You think the creator of Garfield looked back and thought, "Oh, well I've only made a couple books" when really he had already created hundreds of works?
@Popyman515 жыл бұрын
Amazing comment, I hope he has read it.
@thejurassicchicken14455 жыл бұрын
Thats true. But you wouldnt frame one of his pannels on a wall .
@Popyman515 жыл бұрын
@@thejurassicchicken1445 Yes you would. It deserves a place more than a Garfield strip.
@zacri94345 жыл бұрын
No its Koichi x Rohan
@aitor.online5 жыл бұрын
@@thejurassicchicken1445 from the pictures i saw, i absolutely would
@bubalubagus70374 жыл бұрын
if it makes you feel better, it's drawn really well
@craigmargolius82076 жыл бұрын
Dude I think it’s pretty amazing that you devoted 13 years of your life to creating your comics. You made them perfect ! That’s really awesome. I like your last point. Once you care too much about a thing you’ve created it’s hard to experiment with it and potentially improve it. And I think a better way of saying “work lazy” would be to work smart and not hard ;) but this was really inspiring
@Stahlfischkopf6 жыл бұрын
Ads are getting smarter
@gc8972b6 жыл бұрын
better than that i guess, if he was famous he'd be in some talk show watched by millions to talk some random gibberish and oh... promote his new thing. i like this way better. an unknown promoting his work on his own and offering something actually useful to the audience. fair enough, good stuff
@nielsprost Жыл бұрын
I know it‘s a few years old but I loved this video! As someone who has been working on the same animated music video on and off for 5 years, it was actually really comforting and encouraging to hear that this happens to other people too. In fact you‘ve inspired me to make a similar process video once the project is complete, which is now at least on the horizon, lol! Just wanted to say thanks! 😊
@hexkwondo7 жыл бұрын
Wow, I gotta give it to you! That is dedication for real! Awesome work on your graphic novel! I think I may end up buying now that I know the amount of time you put into it. I respect that.
@clairegorsch61175 жыл бұрын
Nah man, I think you got it right the first time. "Never half ass two things: whole ass one thing." I may not be interested in the story, but I definitely admire the backgrounds you did--something that I have always avoided in my art. But I really wish I didn't. I guess that means I strive to be more like artists like you.
@fearzstealth4 жыл бұрын
Huge respect to these types of artist that never get enough regards
@wahlex8416 жыл бұрын
If I could draw well, this would be my type of workflow. Before a mental breakdown after just first few years anyway.
@comradeavocatto18396 жыл бұрын
Everything turned grey after my depression.
@EgoEroTergum6 жыл бұрын
Gotta work at depression physically. Go outside, jog, lift, sit in the sun. Pills and videos just aren't going to alter your body chemistry.
@sydc46446 жыл бұрын
@@EgoEroTergum Nobody wants to work on it that way especially because the medicine is a quick fix.
@dany98dc6 жыл бұрын
omg Alex Krycek I thought you were dead
@luisman3696 жыл бұрын
Syd C But you have to. Depression is not just sadness as you may already know. It's also a physical, crippling state highly related to your gut health and melatonin /serotonin levels. Many people underestimate a good intake of probiotics and the absolute hell you're putting your body in, when you go to sleep after 12:00 P.M, just to give some examples.
@alexiakleij3147 жыл бұрын
Your drawings show your dedication to your work. You are right to work more efficiently when possible. Yet, famous artists (Michelangelo, Rembrandt, Rubens) are likely to have spend huge amounts of their time to create their master pieces, so it is not odd you did likewise, because your work seems to be of outstanding quality as well.
@TheTitaniumBunker6 жыл бұрын
Michelangelo and other renaissance painters had teams of assistants to do a lot of the work for them, working on the cartoon, laying base colors, blocking out the main form etc heck even modern artists like Hirst and Warhol, literally had FACTORIES making the work for them
@CrossOutBryce4 жыл бұрын
I just have to say, only 2 minutes in, your comic looks like an artistic masterpiece! It's so aesthetically pleasing!
@heorgegarrison55545 жыл бұрын
You spent more time making a comic than the time The Beatles took to make all their songs and albums
@ovxymoron6 жыл бұрын
Me: *gives up after one page*
@Architector_46 жыл бұрын
Me: **gives up after one line** _true story btw_
@Pepius_Julius_Magnus_Maximu...2 жыл бұрын
As someone who's starting to make a Comic too (albeit in a completely different medium) I thank you for this video, I and many others will/have learnt from your hard work. Oh, and your art style is gorgeous! Edit: funny, I'm 25 too, I believe mine to be finished in 5 years instead of 3
@austinwiebe38016 жыл бұрын
I kept thinking your KZbin channel was named "I are smart person" (Iarsmartinson) but I just realized it's your name, Lars Martinson, and I'm an idiot
@NonJohns6 жыл бұрын
Airborne Cthulhu I like your version more
@austinwiebe38016 жыл бұрын
Non Johns lol, thanks
@nekozombie6 жыл бұрын
Airborne Cthulhu that's genius
@kishantank27916 жыл бұрын
.when u r trying to be more creative than u think u r...shit happens..
@predicate6 жыл бұрын
Airborne Cthulhu you are not smart person
@HinagaMoizaf7 жыл бұрын
4:28 That gave me an existential crisis.
@takemetoyonk6 жыл бұрын
Hinaga Moizaf looking back while looking in the future is the key to existential crises
@dumorte6 жыл бұрын
LagiNaLangAko23 is it? Lol. Good! My point is basically that, though some things might be too late to do at this stage, learning to draw is definitely not one of them. You're 30, I'm 31, and I'm just learning too! We can learn simultaneously ^_^
@a_bear6 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the crew :)
@gothicspoon6 жыл бұрын
LagiNaLangAko23 It's never too late!
@facunditobarra777 Жыл бұрын
I know 13 years is insane but I think this is insane and it Will become a Masterpiece with the passline of time. Great work !
@robertadefreitas94695 жыл бұрын
the Fail faster motto may have come from Samuel Beckett's famous quote: “Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.”
@dlmx135 жыл бұрын
Speaking from personal experience, I'm finding more and more that when I "cut corners" with my artwork, I am happier with the end result. Too many superfluous details just looks distracting and overworked (in my drawings, anyway - yours look amazing). My first graphic novel (a fellow Xeric winner, from the final grant cycle in 2012) was 250+ pages long. I don't think anything I make from this point onwards needs to be that long.
@yin10793 жыл бұрын
The moment you said that you wanted to make a comic with etching style, I understood immediately why it took you 13 years- 💀
@red-clad-vlad6 жыл бұрын
I've always been a slow artist and it takes me way too long to finish a single piece, irregardless of how much I simplify my style. And that's a big problem for me since I want to create graphic novels after I graduate... I've been working on a shortcut for my action scenes, but I feel as though it's a bit immoral and cheap: making 3d models of my characters so that I can pose and then trace them for my novel, pretty much skipping the sketching phase which is the most time consuming for me...
@StarryKitsuKat6 жыл бұрын
Vladi L. Do it, It's still your character & you drew it so I don't think that's "cheating". And if it is, so what? Who's going to notice? If you want to share your story with the world & make more comics, do it. It is faster (& healthier, preventing a lot of stress for you). Also, some of the most popular webcomics' styles are stick figures, blobs, spin offs of Animal Crossing or Adventure Time style yet those ppl are making a living off of them. So don't be afraid to cut corners especially if you want to put your work out there for all to see. I'm also saying this to myself because I haven't started my comic lol can't decide between traditional & digital. But after seeing this video I am realizing I need to decide already and move on if I want to actually tell those stories & share with the world. Sorry for long comment, good luck on your project! =]
@DeadpoolAli6 жыл бұрын
StarSpirits digital man. Just do it. Ppl purchase the same product and dont think twice about it.
@Nightman221k6 жыл бұрын
What program do you use? I've been getting started on a comic and the action scene poses are something I've had to learn as I go and it's tough to get a reference for these.
@thejoshuacarrezkg43965 жыл бұрын
I was born on 2006 the comic is older than me
@thejoshuacarrezkg43965 жыл бұрын
@Anxiety's best friend. Yes I I'm Old Enough to Be On KZbin
@bleuleuc69615 жыл бұрын
Anxiety's best friend. Why do you need to know? What are you, the internet police? oH nO, oFfIcEr, pLeAsE dOnT aRrEsT mE, I DiDnt rEaD tHe TeArmS oF aGgReEmEnTs.
@stroopwafelfalafel5 жыл бұрын
I know 7 year olds with KZbin accounts
@bleuleuc69615 жыл бұрын
Anxiety's best friend. You invited anybody and everybody to the conversation when you A.) Asked a minor for their birthday and B.) Posted it on the internet, dipshit. There’s this really cool thing called fucking the hell right off, I really suggest you try it. All you need to know is that they’re old enough to be on the internet, and that’s a fucking stretch on need-to-know information. And also, even if I was 12 or under(which I’m not), I revel in the knowledge that you’re probably a shit human being if you’re fine with swearing somebody who you assume I’d 12 or under out on the internet. What are ya gonna do with their birthday, report them? Nobody gives a shit, and honestly, you shouldn’t either.
@teaofpastels5 жыл бұрын
Anxiety's best friend. if you do the math, 2019-2006=13 so... case closed.
@irkalla100 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely stellar advice. I do want to take a moment to express that my jaw is still on the floor. The art style, the details, everything is just amazing!
@tiff99116 жыл бұрын
This comic is almost as old as me xD
@lemonkerr36985 жыл бұрын
The comic is older than me :/
@wyattjenkinson4505 жыл бұрын
This comic is way older than me
@suenzhong78915 жыл бұрын
As an artist and designer who suffers from perfectionism, this video really struck home for me.
@coolkiddo31103 жыл бұрын
Ya know, this is the first motivational video that actually motivated me. Im starting my junior year in highschool in about a month, and I hope to publish a video game by the time I graduate!!
@santoshoommen92097 жыл бұрын
Read the original Tonoharu and loved the work you put into it! Thanks for these tips!
@foxkitsune76 жыл бұрын
I really wanna buy your books 😍 they sound amazingly detailed. I'll look them up on amazon. I checked out your store but it said no international shipping? 😢 ahh the people who had your book signed by you are so lucky! I'd love to get my future books signed 😊 Good luck with your next projects! 😁 Your tips are very wise
@foxsden4 жыл бұрын
Why I’m rather envious of your work. Coming from person that struggles with procrastination and a artist myself, I would dream of spending a lot time and devotion on a project. While I rather lack the motivation and resort to just doodling when I’m bored. I guess everyone struggles with time management in their own ways. I wish the best of luck to you friend!
@anarchsnark6 жыл бұрын
This is basically the story of The Thief and the Cobbler. The film was in production for decades and it was never finished and intricate art is a contributor imo.
@Arkylie5 жыл бұрын
But it's also visually striking, and manages to set itself apart from Disney's Aladdin even though you'd think it would have trouble doing that. Plus, I adore the mindfucks during the chase scene (like running over one rug and falling into another). Couldn't do that in any other medium.
@anarchsnark5 жыл бұрын
@@Arkylie yeah there are scenes, as Lars said, 'battles' that were worth fighting, but stubborn perfectionism meant that film was never finished. Personally I dont know why people compare Aladdin and T&C because besides setting, they are chalk and cheese in execution, story, characters, and so on.
@MilliesTVTime26 жыл бұрын
This show a lot of progress. There’s nothing wrong with releasing in it years. The work shows when it’s all done. Respect.
@yeyenico11518 ай бұрын
Brrrrrr!....I got chills when you said time is THE factor
@tuf77597 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these tips. I always seem to hurry with everything, but at the same time need to be Perfect. I will not start with my comic, because I have a bad habit of thinking that I may not be ready yet. That I still need to improve my drawing or storytelling. But after the first tip, it got to me very hard hahah. Time to draw my comic. So i can fail faster, to improve faster and create later on better comics.