ProjectMark ESSENTIALS | Engrave Tumblers with EASE at 300mm

[@Birdnson2012]

Where do you purchase a larger tower ? Nice video, great work

[@LaserEverything]

Link in the description to patricks tutorial!

[@raulruiz1818]

@@LaserEverything how long is he shipping?

[@3DCA]

We could unmount the tower, rotate it 90 degrees and mount it in the new rotated position so that we can have access to more distance down away from the mouting surface of the tower. So we can use the same tower!

[@LaserEverything]

You certainly could do that, with the tumbler standing up right, absolutely.

[@brianburch3317]

What goggles are you wearing, I like those. I thank you in advance, Brian.

[@LaserEverything]

www.noirlaser.com/ I recommend either the YG4 or YG5 lenses.

[@BenMcNelly]

Nice, I learned a lot with this setup!

[@LaserEverything]

Glad to hear it!

[@pfiltz]

I really like the video. I currently run a 55w CO2, but am looking to speed up my tumbler engraving. Mainly 20oz tumbs. With my CO2, I have of coarse have to raise the top, place the tumbler into the rotary, run the job, raise the top, remove it, place another in, and so on. When your doing 200 or so more, it's very time consuming. I'm looking to buy a 30 w from Monport. The specs are below. Working Dimension: 8'' x 8'' ( 20 cm x 20 cm ) / Machine Dimension: 13.7'' x 21.6'' x 26,9'' ( 35cm x 55cm x 68.5cm ) // Main Tower Dimension: 8.2'' x 17.7'' x 15.3'' ( 21cm x 45cm x 39cm ) Fiber Lens Dimension: 200mm x 200mm I'll be looking to buy one of their 300mm lens as well. With the specs above should I be able to get a decent engraving with artwork around 3" in width? Of course, I'll use the machine for other things that I do such as slate / cork coasters, anodized keychains, etc.... Thoughts?

[@onjofilms]

Bummer nobody answered. Did you find out the answer?

[@hollotechpc]

You should try just LA Awesome would probably eliminate the alcohol step and no need for ZEP.

[@LaserEverything]

We prefer Zep ☺️

[@midwestlaserengraving644]

It's nice to see the 60w SFX M7. Mine came a couple weeks ago, and will be the heart of my business. Please tell me good things about SFX's customer service...

[@LaserEverything]

They're great, good communication and a genuine desire to help. Don't always trust their technical advice, they've been wrong about a couple things, but the good intentions are there and they care about their customers.

[@midwestlaserengraving644]

@@LaserEverything Thank you! Headed to discord to join the family 🙂

[@victorbrown3032]

Nice! Now I need that 30...😜 Need to learn my 70mm too. Do you have a video on the differences/benefits between lens sizes? Smaller detail vs larger, Power differences, etc?

[@LaserEverything]

We talk about it in this video a bit but we're getting a lot more in depth in the next episode. In the meantime check this out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3LKm2mKacp7bpI

[@victorbrown3032]

@@LaserEverything Seen this one. Great for knowing which brand and some details of characteristics. Hoping the next video on the topic covers the physical differences and results of the work desired. Whys of big vs small. What actually happens with each where the beam ends it’s life. You’ve sporadically covered many of the details. Looking for the one go to source video. I have a 70mm and a 290-200( On the lens, Focal length 350mm measured?? no stick yet 🥴) lenses so far. Keep up the great work! 😊

[@pclutch]

I still can't even get an image into ezcad and i watched all your videos.

[@LaserEverything]

Join the discord server or facebook group and we can try to get you some help. Links in the description.

[@pclutch]

@@LaserEverything I'm on your discord. Idk how to use that either. I'm also a patreon or whatever you use.

[@bharkin1]

nice video as always.... one question though. What does Jimmy have that's small??? 🤣🤣

[@LaserEverything]

Pension*

[@matchking1351]

Alex, great video! It has been very helpful. With your new M7, have you tried to do color yet? I thought it might be cool to get through the powder coat on a tumbler then do another color pass to fill the mark since they are stainless. I’ve had luck doing colors on stainless plates but haven’t tried it on a tumbler.

[@LaserEverything]

Not yet, I get so many questions about this but it's extremely difficult to master and I want to feel absolutely confident before publishing any sort of guide with my name on it haha. Don't worry, it's on my radar - but it's gonna take some time.

[@oninachi]

Hi Alex, just got really curious with Project Mark function here, were not able to play much with that yet. We do have the high tower and the 300mm and now realize its good advantage. Just like to know when you'll recommend this approach over the Rotary Mark for tumblers or other spherical things. This is a saver for those having issues with the lines and will make bitmap marking on spherics possible. Thank you so much for the great explanation in this video. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@menrasy7815]

What to fill in Project Mark - Focus Length? What to measure to be exact , I’m confused

[@ThomasDab]

Hello, do you have a STL from your dipstick, please? P.S. Good job in jour video

[@LaserEverything]

We have a download available over at masters.lasereverything.net/

[@stenchynightmares2117]

Please help me out, I tried to engrave a stainless steel cup and the sides get a lot less marked than the center with he cylinder correction, I don't know what to do...

[@loganwise9022]

Loved the special effects. Did you pay extra for those? The exhaust fans moving the dust made the scene look dreamy lol

[@LaserEverything]

Just the benefit of sharing walls with multiple shops - we also get to share dust!

[@LaserEverything]

On second thought could you be seeing the laser light show? :'D It's a $20 laser light projector off amazon :P

[@loganwise9022]

@@LaserEverything Oh yeah! That's exactly what it is. It looks cool!

[@reviewedbydan]

I have learned so much from your channel. Keep up the great content. Currently have a CO2 machine and looking to jump into the Fiber world. Also if you have a machine you would like to donate I would pay for Shipping LOL.

[@LaserEverything]

Great Danny, so glad you're getting value out of the content that's what I like to hear. Right now extra machines typically go to our paid staff members to make sure everyone has a machine to help troubleshoot viewers but someday we'll be 100% kitted out and we'll start doing giveaways :P

[@ulfberner4397]

Hey, love your videos, if you could have just 3 lenses for your 30-50w fiber what would that be

[@LaserEverything]

30w: 70, 110, 175 50w: 70, 150, 220

[@ulfberner4397]

Thank you for your reply, I have a cnc plasma cutter for the big stuff but planning to get a fiber laser for all the other stuff, engraving metal and so on, I do have a diod laser by Ortur that works ok on wood but not on metal

[@richkleyn]

can you show this with Lightburn?

[@LaserEverything]

We've got that right here for ya: kzbin.info/www/bejne/inrZmKaXpMaGo9k

[@shark92651]

At 13:31 Jimmy has a small what? 😆

[@LaserEverything]

>_>

[@geraldfischer1057]

Hit the like - great content. I'm unsure on my lens. I see numbers on it.

[@VegasMadMikey]

I have no Project Mark listed under the laser menu??

[@Birdnson2012]

I don't see it either ??? Does anyone know how to install or get projectmark

[@LaserEverything]

If you don't have project mark try the Community Edition copy of ezcad on our website Ezcad 2 CE www.lasereverything.net/downloads but don't forget to copy over your settings from your F3 Param!

[@LaserEverything]

If you don't have project mark try the Community Edition copy of ezcad on our website Ezcad 2 CE www.lasereverything.net/downloads but don't forget to copy over your settings from your F3 Param!

[@VegasMadMikey]

@@LaserEverything Thanks!!

[@gandikha]

@@LaserEverything bro thank you so much for sharing the info really works for me

[@chunhaotan9836]

Hi, thanks for the great video. I am wondering do i need to buy another 300mm lens to achieve this or the 220mm lens can be use for this purpose too? Planning to buy JPT 50W, now thinking which lens to go with..😁

[@LaserEverything]

The 220 will work okay but the 300 would be better. The lenses are so cheap compared to the machine - I always recommend owning a range of lenses for different situations.

[@sofloemir]

Wondering how 250mm will work to give little extra focus space for 50cm towers

[@LaserEverything]

I'm sure it would work pretty well!

[@RonMarshallrone]

Can you do colors on a tumbler with a mopa fiber?

[@travissnyder3123]

Have you tried this method doing a black mark on a stainless tumbler? I have the 300mm lens with a 50cm tower. On the chuck rotary I can't get the tower tall enough to focus for the black mark. I didn't even think about this option. I had a 150mm x 70mm image I was trying to put on the tumbler.

[@LaserEverything]

I've done a small amount of testing and hit some walls pretty quickly with projecting black mark. Even with lenses with a large depth of field the focal point for z-marking is so specific it's been difficult to get the good black all the way around the curve. I think rotary for zmarking is still the best option - and the 80cm tower would be a big help with that.

[@travissnyder3123]

@@LaserEverything I was testing last night and ended up using my 200mm lens with the rotary, but even placing the tumbler at an angle I still had like a 7mm-8mm height difference between the highest and lowest point on the tumbler where the graphic was to go. I had to run 2 passes at speed 50 at different focal heights to get a decent black mark(which takes about 30 mins with the graphic size I had). If I extend the tower I'm hoping the 300mm will cut that down to one pass.

[@ajredaelli]

Hey there - great video. A couple of questions, do you have to have a filtration system with these machines? I've noticed many people do not use one. Also, with the Mactron JPT, do you receive support if needed? Last, I use Corel with my CO2, can I use it with these machines as well? Seems to work really well with my current laser.

[@LaserEverything]

You can use a fume extractor to filter these machines we have one linked in the buying guide www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide but you're correct most people don't use them. Whenever possible we recommend exhausting directly outdoors. Mactron offers fairly good support but there's still a pretty serious language barrier. Corel will work as a designing suite but you won't send jobs to the laser from corel - you'll have to export as an AI or svg file and then import it into ezcad to actually run the job.

[@ajredaelli]

@@LaserEverything so basically this unit will not print from Corel? That’s interesting. I will keep that in mind moving forward. I appreciate your input.

[@TheRetrostudent]

Hi, with regards to ProjectMark etc are these available with Ezcad 3, only seeing them used with Ezcad 2. Thanks

[@LaserEverything]

Not that I know of. I've only seen project mark / cylinder correction done with Ezcad 2 boards. Ezcad 3 really requires a 3D galvo scan head and unlock code to take advantage of curved surface marking which sucks.

[@victorbrown3032]

My ezcad2 software doesn’t have “project mark”. 😩

[@LaserEverything]

Lightburn will allow you to use project mark when it's released at the end of June! :)

[@MrBigleo25]

where can i set a set of the focal sticks you have at 14:30 time in the video

[@jp450r]

Will this work in lightburn?

[@jp450r]

Yes No anything?

[@LaserEverything]

Yes we cover it in the LightBurn for Galvo Crash Course: kzbin.info/www/bejne/inrZmKaXpMaGo9k

[@justinallen2398]

after you use project mark, do you have to do anything to go back to regular flat surfaces? thanks

[@LaserEverything]

Nope, if you don't launch the job from the projectmark menu then you're doing standard 2D marking.

[@hoocli]

Is there a project mark equivalent for ezcad3?

[@LaserEverything]

Not to my knowledge

[@lexispapi]

What Mende do you recommend to do detailed work such as coins or firearms slides and barrel?

[@LaserEverything]

It sounds like those being all metal, a fiber laser would be best to do that type of work. Deep engraving is a slower process, but you can get more done faster with a higher wattage laser if you fine tune your settings. The smaller the work area for your lens, the more power will reach the material in a finer dot size to be able to do more faster as well, so try not to oversize your lens.

[@krisknowlton5935]

Are you using a magic eraser to rub with?

[@LaserEverything]

Yep we have big packs of generic ones super inexpensive on the buying guide: www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide

[@d_besson]

Is there a soft touch coating on the thermos or just paint? I tried this processing method on a soft touch, but it doesn’t work out so easily. Moreover, soft touch red or orange is the most difficult to process with a fiber laser (at least in my particular case), other colors turn out great

[@dannypellicier5965]

Where i can get the focal sticks?

[@LaserEverything]

Mine are from Etsy!

[@cameronrobinson9159]

Any idea why I'd get no effect when I use project mark as opposed to mark on grid page?

[@cameronrobinson9159]

For some reason when I got Mark from the project mark menu I get no power. The laser runs but is super weak. If I back out and Mark from the main screen it runs fine

[@LaserEverything]

Very strange, honestly not sure. I'd join the discord or facebook group linked in the description - so we can get a better picture of what you're working with.

[@tedzbug07]

What purpose is using Projectmark? instead of just a standard etch from the workspace by hitting F2?

[@tedzbug07]

I found it. It distorts the image for the cylindrical object so the burn doesn't look distorted on the surface. Cool stuff.

[@LaserEverything]

Sorry I thought you were on EZ3, glad you found it though, yeah it makes a big difference!

[@tedzbug07]

@@LaserEverything my machine is Ez2, my CO2 at work is Ez3. This is perfect as I'm about to do some red tumblers with my 60W M7

[@michaeltrottier9467]

What was written on the 2x4 next to the tumbler ? LOL

[@LaserEverything]

jimmy has a small pencil collection

[@mohamedyounes9741]

Which version of EZ cad Are you using I've never seen this before

[@LaserEverything]

2.14

[@semtekinc.7748]

I’m having trouble engraving red powder coating I need help

[@LaserEverything]

Join our LMA, Facebook group or Discord for feedback!

[@Birdnson2012]

Where do you get projectmark? It's not in my drop down menu in laser ???

[@LaserEverything]

If you don't have project mark try the Community Edition copy of ezcad on our website Ezcad 2 CE www.lasereverything.net/downloads but don't forget to copy over your settings from your F3 Param!

[@frodekrogstad9936]

Is Projectmark option in Ezcad3?

[@LaserEverything]

Unfortunately no, you can still follow this guide. The best thing you can do in ez3 is to reduce the width of the graphic so it skews skinny to try to make up for the stretching from wrapping around the curve. It's a lot of guess and check but once you know how much you need to reduce the graphic width for a particular object diameter it should work every time.

[@jamesshelton9126]

Is this possible in Ezcad 3?

[@LaserEverything]

It is, minus the project mark. You'll just have to compensate by reducing the width of the graphic a bit to compensate for the stretching around the curve. It's not perfect but it works fine with a little practice.

[@eddiesironworx6831]

I don't have a Projectmark option?

[@LaserEverything]

If you're on ezcad 2 download the ezcad 2 CE from our downloads page on our website, copy the SuperProject file out of the PLUG folder and paste it into yours.

[@redsixonefive]

I copied and pasted project Mark to my plug-ins folder but it still doesn’t show up

[@Birdnson2012]

I also tried this , still not showing up ...what am I missing ..need help

[@Gaurav-ye1cf]

Can 80w mopa laser cut gold faster than 80w fiber laser what the difference

[@LaserEverything]

Theoretically yes, but you'd be hard pressed to find an 80w fiber that isn't a MOPA. The MOPA would cut faster because you can maintain high power output at higher frequencies. That means more pulses that are just as strong as the pulses the regular fiber can only put out when it's don't just a few pulses in the same amount of time.

[@Gaurav-ye1cf]

Thank you for your support 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@boknows3915]

Is this possible with a 200mm lens?

[@LaserEverything]

Possible, but probable you will have to defocus the laser to get your spot size larger so you don't ablate the metal

[@boknows3915]

@@LaserEverything thank you for your reply!! I'll try that

[@sofloemir]

I was real excited until I saw I need to change my tower lol.

[@LaserEverything]

😂 very sorry. Thanks for watching!

[@ApparitionSk8]

JImmy =C

[@johnmessenger7292]

Thanks for the video Alex, but I gotta know, "Jimmy has a small pe......." Peanut? Person in his pocket? , personality? I'm at a loss here, what could that possibly mean LOL