Last Epoch 0.9 - Crit Lich!

[@nurvan1000]

Instead of 8 points in Corrosive Consciousness I speced 4 points into Elixir of Hunger in Necro tree and 4 points into Crippling Insight. +10% cast speed and HP on hit after potion use. And raw int gives me a little bit more damage than increased spell damage.

[@rammune7260]

Took inspiration from your older version of the build for my very first Last Epoch character. Made it to 90 before i managed to die in hardcore. Clicked so fast on this video when it showed up! Cheers!

[@rammune7260]

Personally i did not have troubles sustain mana at all with Rip Blood, when only having 3/3 Thirst (-3 mana cost) and 0/3 mana thirst, in addition to having increased cast speed from Reaper Form. Obviously had a wand with -3 mana cost. Transplant only costs life, Reaper Form costs 0, Death Seal costs 1 so you barely have any mana uses outside of Rip Blood. Also saves you a point, letting you tech into either free Rip Bloods on 0 mana, 5% cast speed or 8% more damage (In addition to the 9% cast speed and -3 mana cost). I also think it's possible to just run 3 or 4 points in Cursed Limbs, for a 3-4 seconds duration, when your Transplant is lower level. I think Doomcall gets worse once you get Marina's, as adding additional "more" damage from the same "more" multiplier is will not scale additively with the existing damned stacks. Additional frequency and crit might for Death Wave might be more ideal once you reach certain breakpoints, while also being more comfortable (Less Damned stacks + Death Wave hits more consistently during maps). I love the idea with just not speccing into Reaper Form, and instead using it on Harvest for the poison resistance, armor and chill. Then making up for unspecced Reaper Form with automated Bone Curse through Transplant - Such a neat idea. Think it would be ideal to craft poison on hit on wand (Rare, exalted) or at least add it on Exalted wand in case it lands on a suffix for LP.

[@maomaosgaming423]

@@rammune7260 Yep, the rip blood mana back is optional, just depends on how heavily you are spamming rip blood, but tbh for mapping the mana back is not necessary. Also Cursed limbs 3 points is sufficient once you have enough cdr. :)

[@klarer4607]

Best lich player

[@maomaosgaming423]

Thanks! :) Glad you enjoy the lich

[@klarer4607]

​@@maomaosgaming423 what is the best way to farm exalted helmets ... bever find a helmet t6 or t7 with death seal.

[@maomaosgaming423]

@@klarer4607 There's really no best way, you can farm t4 Julra dungeon and try to farm for the door that gives exalted helm drop rates on mobs on the 2nd floor. Otherwise, its just empowered mono farm and get lucky with exalted helm echo nodes. There's no real way to target farming a specific affix, it's just rng.

[@klarer4607]

​@@maomaosgaming423 yes if i have the blessing with the increase drop rate for helmets it counts also for the julra dungeon?

[@maomaosgaming423]

@@klarer4607 its global, so counts for everything you do

[@chengxengyang]

Awesome build just got it going and can't believe I'm nuking everything at lvl 40 keep more video coming

[@gabecranmer6086]

idk how you're nuking things at 40 with this build. im getting shit on

[@joakimes]

@@gabecranmer6086 You are probably missing some gear then. I'm nuking as well.

[@skaavtv2894]

Was waiting for this! Best Lich Boi :)

[@fredrikaxelson8079]

Hahaha this is amazing, died like 30 times on Orobyss, swapped to your build and now I killed him in 12 sec

[@vinodsiba4823]

thats not a build problem thats you being a goddamn noob

[@gallowz1980]

been messing with this build but is it just me or the bone curse which should crit everytime doesnt crit everytime or even as often as should

[@jonathontaylor696]

Thank Mao!

[@exorious7453]

Hi does this build work when I’m lvl25

[@introspectemcee]

Does cursed exile multi proc from doombringer or do you have to cast rip blood first to apply bone curse to benefit?

[@jahmassanger]

Hey, Tried to post it few times now. Maybe links are not welcomed in the comments. I would like to know your opinion of Soulfire relic for this build. Especialy for speed farm. Uptime on book from potions seems low for me. What are you thaughts? Thanks!

[@maomaosgaming423]

The dmg in this build is more than enough to zoom through emp monos even at 500+. The purpose of Grimoire is not meant for potion spamming for the additional flat dmg, it is more for the defensive aspect it provides with the DR of the 3 dmg types. Soulfire relic will do nothing for this build. Thats more for ignite build if you ever want to mess around with ignite.

[@jahmassanger]

@@maomaosgaming423 Thanks man!

[@jahmassanger]

One more question. I am getting smoked by T4 bosses. Literaly 1 shot. I am doging big teles but fe. Jutras homing shots obliterate me. How can I get some quick toughness? I am res/crite/endurance capped. Thanks again!

[@maomaosgaming423]

Work on getting your hp up, a good amount of hp is probably 3k+ if you were to do julra, and you have to death seal and potion at approrpiate times to avoid dying to her mechanics

[@jahmassanger]

Ok. So baisicaly I need to git gud. Got it. Thanks!

[@rukh9353]

I noticed that the video and planner are a little off from each other (some different passives taken, rip blood on transplant vs bone armor, for example) which version do you like more?

[@maomaosgaming423]

I would just go with hungering souls for mono farming. Soul feast is probably going to be more for arena pushing, once ladder is released.

[@rukh9353]

​@@maomaosgaming423 The planner version or the ones that you show in the video? sorry if i was unclear, your trees are a little different in the planner vs the video

[@maomaosgaming423]

@Rukh you can take bone armor on transplant tree once you get +2 to transplant on relic prefix. You keep rip blood cast nodes, you can take out the more dmg nodes from top right of the tree if you want to take more bone armor nodes. Just a tradeoff between dmg and armor, its up to you.

[@medrian]

Great build, thank you. Do you have a Loot Filter for it?

[@maomaosgaming423]

I do not, but you can try to pull one off from the build planner on Lastepoch tools, I believe some people mentioned it worked ok, and then you can just modify it to your liking.

[@b58Alex_]

how did u get transplate craft on the grimoire? and or the other purple stats on the gear

[@1SkyyZ]

Legendary crafting, look it up will help

[@mexismug]

At 08:17 you mention how after the automatic bone curse from transplant, cursed limbs kicks in. That's not the case rn as far as I can tell, did they change that? The tooltip even mentions that a *direct* cast of Bone Curse is required. I'm kinda confused because your newest build plan for 1.0 from that other video still has all of that in, when in fact it seems kinda senseless/weak if it doesn't work.

[@maomaosgaming423]

Yes cursed limbs has been changed to not work unless direct cast. Now you would have to put bone curse on your bar and manual cast to trigger cursed limbs. I still have points in cursed limbs since its still nice to have for the X amount of secs after you manual cast, mainly for clearing echoes. You don't need points in that and can put somewhere else if you feel like it works better for you.

[@mexismug]

@@maomaosgaming423 nice, as I thought then. Ty for the quick reply! When I checked the 1.0 tree, I saw you have the upper left bloodrip stuff from the Warlock tree. That honestly seems crazy juicy, but can the 5 point bonus from Cauldron of Blood even proc if you convert to necrotic? The tooltip states that you need to cast a phys skill to proc it, and stuff loses its phys tag if you convert. I'm new to LE, but I'd assume it doesn't count as a phys skill if it doesn't have the phys tag?

[@maomaosgaming423]

@@mexismug thats correct

[@mexismug]

@@maomaosgaming423 so the nodes you picked there on warlock wouldn't work as is. Are you considering to not convert then?

[@maomaosgaming423]

@ugThanks for pointing it out, updated planner link in description. The original crit lich build passives probably work out better, the lock passives for overload is for another build most likely revolving around bleed and not so much crit lich, the extra rip bloods per sec is not really worth the passive points in lock tbh,

[@zz-ic6dx]

Do i need to get to a certain level and respec into this build, or can i start doing it right away as i unlock skill specialization slots?

[@maomaosgaming423]

If you want to know if you can level with the skill setup, then yes you can. However, it is not as optimal as doing wandering spirits and spirit plague for leveling, but you can get a feel of the build as you level and not have to respec. Have you already leveled a lich or planning to try it out?

[@zz-ic6dx]

@@maomaosgaming423 I am leveling a lich now around level 45, im following the basic lich leveling guide on maxroll, using spirit plague

[@maomaosgaming423]

@z z you should keep leveling with that until around 55 to 60 then you can transition at that time. Just a tip, do not respec all your skills at once. You should grab the node in transplant that casts bone curse before you do the transition. You can spec out of reaper form, but still keep reaper form on your bar. You spec bone curse and level that up until you can get 3 to 4 points in cursed limbs. Then you can swap out probably spirit plague for rip blood and go from there.

[@zz-ic6dx]

@@maomaosgaming423 Ok thanks a lot for the detailed help !

[@klim0680]

Good evening! tell me it will look ok in this build Peak of the Mountain?? thanks in advance

[@maomaosgaming423]

Is there a reason you want to use Peak? Not being able to leech health from crits when the build is a crit build doesn't make sense. There's no benefit for the helm for this build.

[@klim0680]

just for the sake of increasing the chance of a critical hit

[@klim0680]

I ran 2000 echo I fell one wand with two LP! and there came a chance to stop and a chance to blind🙈🙈🙈

[@maomaosgaming423]

@@klim0680 unlucky :(

[@klim0680]

@@maomaosgaming423 it's incredible! I think that something is wrong with the drop

[@Adalon-]

Quick question, why do you take "Illusion of pain" in bone curse? From what I understand from using/reading it, those effects only work if you directly apply the curse and doesn't trigger off of transplant or the follow up rip blood applications. It's only a single point granted but it seems like a completely wasted point or is there something I am missing?

[@maomaosgaming423]

I pointed this out in the video going over this skill, and disclaimed that this skill interaction is currently being applied via cursed limbs though not intended. It will get patched, but it doesnt change the build or gameplay. the dmg will not be as crazy obviously, but it still more than enough for all content and corruptions 500+, assuming you get the sufficient gearing of course. Enjoy the dmg while its around , or dont take it if you don't want to get spoiled by it due to the bug and be ethical 😉

[@brandoncarter2624]

Wait how can be have 6 skills? He has hungering souls and soul feasts just swap back and forth and lvl 20?

[@maomaosgaming423]

There's 2 variations, one with Hungering souls, another with Soul Feast. I have a separate planner for each in the description.

[@brandoncarter2624]

@maomao's gaming excellent thank you bro. Definitely have to give this a go. Been playing this gsme for a couple years now and made multiple builds but never a lich build. Now I have great guide ti follow!

[@toba5878]

hey mate - rly great stuff it sounded to me like it is a "test version" and i am curios if you have any conclusions yet? im relative new to the game - played a bit so i cant compare this- to "another lich" version at first seight - i was kinda like "wtf - playing lich but dont skill reaper - this sounds wrong!!!" but so far i rly like it - keep up your content! - new follower here

[@maomaosgaming423]

Hope you are enjoying the game, glad you are liking the lich! I've been playing lich for a while now since 2021, currently there are not really too many variations of lich due to how strong death seal is. Poison dot lich use to be another variation, but now poison got nerfed, that build is pretty much ded. There is Marrow Shards which is more of a kiting style that's really strong, it's also a crit lich but physical and not necrotic. Anyway we'll see what the devs do in the upcoming months and ill update the guide accordingly.

[@toba5878]

@@maomaosgaming423 hmn - so dot is atm bad for lich? sad to hear - dot is one of my fav. archetypes

[@maomaosgaming423]

@To Ba poison dot ya, you can do necrotic dot and it will still be ok. It wont get this type of dmg output as crit though.

[@toba5878]

@@maomaosgaming423 ok - one last question than i will be silent xD i saw your twitch vid where you test poison - after youre done with your testing -you respec - but you spec into reaper - why? not confinced/happy with the other variant?

[@maomaosgaming423]

@To Ba just showing different ways to spec it. The original build prior to 0.9 i spec'd reaper. No real reason, both specs are fine currently. Hungering souls however is real busted right now , so id swap over to it for bossing

[@nurvan1000]

Hey Mao. According to the Rising Flames patch notes Illusion of Pain is now allowed to be used with Cursed Limbs, it's not a bug anymore. But 75% duration reduction on a Cursed Limbs when IoP speced is still a nerf, so it's not worth it anymore to use IoP. Am I right or those changes need proper testing?

[@maomaosgaming423]

They didn't even address the actual bug with cursed limbs. IoP making cursed limbs last 1.25s is a nerf for sure, but honestly you probably wont feel the difference since after transplant your next few casts will still be doing giga dmg, until they actually fix the buggrd portion of cursed limbs node itself. Once they fix the bug, IoP is not worth taking, rather just go for more armor shred. We'll see tomorrow

[@derjero]

hey, would u mind telling why u dont have or need any poison resistance?

[@maomaosgaming423]

Since you are typically always leeching, poison dmg usually isnt an issue. You just have to be careful not to stand in poison puddles on the ground. Also with the grimoire, you get up to 40% dr from poison as well on potion use. Other suffixes are more important on gear than poison res for lich.

[@nurvan1000]

Hello again, Mao. I switched back and forth between Ethical and Hungering Souls variants for a few days. Did a lot of testing with T4 bosses and 400+ corruption. The Hungering Souls is just A LOT better at single target damage. While Ethical feels a little bit more mobile and tanky, but just a little. Is there any reason to play Ehtical atm? p.s also I didn't get Soul Feast version at all. What I supposed to do with that? I'm just running out of mana halfway through mono.

[@maomaosgaming423]

You can play whichever you feel good to you, once they patch, then ethical version will probably feel more smooth to play. As for the soul feast, its not meant for spamming, you are spamming mainly rip blood and the dmg is mostly from deathwaves, and soul feast 2 or 3 taps when you engage for the armor, its used for defensives for mobs that you feel needs it.

[@nurvan1000]

@@maomaosgaming423 Got it, thanks!

[@iz607]

Why do you scale hungering soul with fire skull? Is it better even though we are getting a lot of bonus necrotic damage.

[@maomaosgaming423]

Check the previous comments , I explained in several comments below thanks

[@nurvan1000]

Hey Mao. A lot of new changes in your builds planners. 1) Why intelligence rings and helmet on Ethical planner? Better scaling? And why no Int rings in Hungerins Souls version? 2) You dumped a lot of crit chance. 75-80% is okay value?

[@nurvan1000]

1) Nvm. I see Soul Shroud node in Reaper Form skill tree. Thats why more int on Ethical :)

[@maomaosgaming423]

@Roman A. just wanted to put up another planner for whenever the patch comes, so people who are using the build can transition to, if they feel like it. Its all roughly the same when you have decent gear, just very slight differences in playstyle.

[@sorr0w2789]

Very nice build! Do you have any loot filters you'd recommend using for gearing the character up?

[@maomaosgaming423]

I don't have loot filters for download, but there are other content creators that go over how to setup a filter, so I do recommend you going over that. Then you can just look over the affixes I have on the build planner, and put those in your filter. I believe the Lastepochtools has a way to generate a filter from the build, but I am not sure how well that works.

[@jaktbone]

@@maomaosgaming423 it's pretty clever, I'm impressed. It uses custom coloring to make it easier to spot higher total tier items, and just matches for stats that are important from the planner. Makes it really easy in early endgame to start crafting something that has (mostly) optimal stat rolls.

[@berkanoglumya4620]

Nice Video, this build looks unreal. What are your highest dmg outputs with crits?

[@forthemaxandminmin152]

This is fraud dont give a shit..

[@jazzdogtordvm7105]

I run your build with 2 grisly adorned idols instead and stack +% bloodrip dmg on my helmet and chest, and the damage is completely obscene. Without deathseal, im running around spamming rips for 20k crits and my toon is far from optimized. What have you done, all other builds feel lame. I mainly reserve death seal for elites or boss fights, i literally dont need it otherwise. I didnt realize that "+70%" is way different than "70%" without the +

[@maomaosgaming423]

glad you're enjoiyng it :)

[@zz-ic6dx]

what do you use for loot filter?

[@maomaosgaming423]

I dont have any filters to download, but you can grab a filter from build planner from lastepochtools, it should work decently.

[@TocaRaul23]

Love the build, best lich player! just one question, are you sure that oppressive gaze and cursed limbs nodes in bone curse work together? testing here and it seems it isn't working

[@maomaosgaming423]

Yep, how are you testing it?

[@TocaRaul23]

I have both nodes, I transplant to a pack of enemies and hit them with a couple of rip Bloods then I use Soul Feast, but it only procs in one enemy (I'm using the soul feast version, so not using cone)

[@maomaosgaming423]

@@TocaRaul23 You can test it at the dummies at the Champion's gate. There's a set of multiple dummies there, try it with the set of 3 for example. Just transplant and then soul feast, you'll see :)

[@TocaRaul23]

you're right, I'm sorry maybe I was doing something wrong

[@Makri9]

This looks so good! Absolutely gonna give it a try. It'd be perfect if it didn't have 3 summons as well. I'm a nub to last epoch and still getting to know stuff, so sorry if this question seems weird, but how well does the build do against rly high corruption on monos or the infamous t4 julra? Any content you'd avoid with this setup?

[@maomaosgaming423]

does all content fine, once you get more gear, and know the boss mechanics. It's by no means a facetank no mechanics build though :) Corruption as high as you want, once you have sufficient gear.

[@Souza1982]

Bone curse bonkers

[@lucaspavaneli7889]

With the fire conversion why are you still taking increase necrotic damage on gear?

[@maomaosgaming423]

it's only the base dmg of the skill that gets converted, all the added dmg sources are still necrotic.

[@Grishnak79]

Arcane Absorption does not seem to be working with Blood Splatters - it is even described in Splatter and Eviscerate nodes. With 200% chance for Blood Splatter we never cast regular Rip Blood, hence no buff from Arcane Absorption.

[@maomaosgaming423]

The buff is only applied by directly casting rip blood, you do not get the buff from procs or from the rip blood casts from transplant. The global spell flat dmg buff you receive from directly casting rip blood lasts 6 secs and that buff applies to all your skills that have a spell tag.

[@Grishnak79]

@@maomaosgaming423 Does it have a buff icon? Cause I have never seen it myself and why I think it is not working is that Blood Splatter specifically says, that hitting with it does not count as hitting with Rip Blood.

[@maomaosgaming423]

@@Grishnak79 There is no buff icon unfortunately, I wish there was one as well! Hopefully they will add in future hotfix or patches.

[@gabecranmer6086]

is hungering or souls feast version better?

[@maomaosgaming423]

Play hungering souls for the big dmg :)

[@gabecranmer6086]

@@maomaosgaming423 am doing :) thanks! So far it's going well at level 52

[@Kunzopolis]

"I'm pretty sure this interaction is going to get nerfed" Can you please explain what you mean? What specific bone curse interaction do you think will get nerfed?

[@maomaosgaming423]

Illusion of pain is working on skills that you use procing bone curse from cursed limbs, thats not intended, thats just part of it the other has to do with cursed limbs itself , this is not a new bug, it happened back in 0.8.4 and was patched a few days after. So its going to get the same fix, just whenever they get to it after they deal with all the other bigger issues they have on their hands .

[@Kunzopolis]

@@maomaosgaming423 Oh okay, I see. Thank you!

[@tiagogomes8697]

really like the build, just the skellies dying and swapping spells on bar drives me crazy tho

[@maomaosgaming423]

You dont manual cast summon skellies for mapping, you just kill mobs and have skelly vanguards auto summon from the passive tree node. For bossing I just dont bother resummoning, since you are still doing plenty of dmg from deathseal's deathwave and spamming rip blood.

[@tiagogomes8697]

@@maomaosgaming423 yy i mean on bosses, when they die is really annoyng, and u can really feel the dps lost

[@maomaosgaming423]

@Tiago Gomes ya unfortunately thats the drawback. The build leaves you to mess around with. Ultimately this is not a final build, and once i get better gear, ill most likely swap back to my original build from previous patch without the HS and with reaper and make a separate video for that.

[@doctorblaze]

Please do! Your guide is amazing :)

[@imulion668]

Heyo you said you updated the soul feast version planner but I think you put in a wrong link cause it has hungering souls skilled

[@maomaosgaming423]

Thanks should be updated now

[@miz0n]

just a stupid question, i dont get it, how do you apply bone curse without having it in your bar? did i missed the explanation? :D

[@maomaosgaming423]

Its being cast on transplant, theres a node in transplant that casts bone curse, and then theres a node in bone curse called cursed limbs, which for up to 5 secs after bone curse is cast, any skills that hits for that duration also applies bone curse

[@kirvinn]

I swapped my build over to try this out. The clear is so nice with transplant + blood splatters. My concern though is the amount of time it takes to heal after death seal ends and lack of healing if I'm getting stunlocked, really missing my snapshotted aura. Playing HC. Do you think the best option in that case is to just run Reaper + Aura instead of Transplant + Rip?

[@maomaosgaming423]

A few tips on death seal is to not use death seal just randomly when there's no mobs around, and 2, if you death seal and kill everything around you, release death seal so that the leech you get from killing the mobs is applied to your health bar. If you let death seal run its course and you are not hitting any mobs after 2-3 secs, you will not gain your health from the damage you leeched while DS was running. The trick is to always make sure you have mobs to hit when you activate death seal so that any leech/overleech heals you once you release death seal. It takes a little getting use to, but once you get use to it, you should feel more comfortable playing the build. Hope this helps!

[@kirvinn]

@@maomaosgaming423 Thanks for the tips. Also this build is AMAZING for leveling that's probably worth mentioning. Just slap on firestarter's torch to do the AOE lifting but Transplant + Rip Blood + Bone Curse is pretty nuts for speed and bossing. Also something I'm trying that seems to do pretty insane damage and is similar, new Curse of Perseverance mod (hungering souls can all hit the same target) lets you shoot 15 souls per cast that can hit 1 mob, and that lets you proc bone curse 15 times per cast. Also that means you can get a ton of poison stacks for soul feast every cast.

[@maomaosgaming423]

@@kirvinn Yep, shotgun HS with that staff is still pretty good even with the nerf on it. Ailment builds, you can try playing around with. I like big yellow numbers over ailments though :)

[@xlorida]

How do you level this build?

[@maomaosgaming423]

you can follow the leveling guides on Maxroll for acolyte, and then transition to this build when you get to around level 65 or so. Basically once you get Spirit plague 15 points in your base acolyte tree, you pick that up and leveling becomes a breeze. gl

[@xlorida]

@@maomaosgaming423 I got another one. Are explosions from Transplant and Rip Blood applications worth it? I figure since rip blood is our main skill Trasnplant explosion shouldnt do much damage so why not just go for Bone Armor nodes?

[@miz0n]

maxrol lvl build is kinda shit, hook up that old lvling build 1-75 from boardman

[@maomaosgaming423]

@xlorida the explosion dmg nodes for transplant is good for clear, since when you transplant, you do dmg from transplant detonation, as well as rip blood splatters x 6 (assuming your hitting packs of mobs and not a solo boss). It comes down to playstyle, if you value bone armor for def more than the dmg from transplant, for those nodes instead.

[@xlorida]

@@maomaosgaming423 the explosion nodes boost only the explosion damage fron transplant right? not the rip blood procs from Dance of Blood?

[@Cyrsia]

Having a Blast with the build! Is the buildplanner the way to spec or your vid? Can i also take the loot filter from the build planner? Thanks in advance!

[@maomaosgaming423]

You can follow the planner, video is missing a node for hungering souls to take the fire base conversion node with the extra 50% multiplier. also rip blood mana return node is preference, you can take those points or put it in extra cast speed and -mana. Note the rip blood tree is not maximizing rip blood dmg since thats not the main dmg skill, it just supplements the build and is a QoL with the splatters especially for mono farming

[@Cyrsia]

@@maomaosgaming423 Thank you! Would you still recommend skilling Elixir of Hunger and 8/8 Dance with Death instead of Apocrypha and Darkguard?

[@lucaspavaneli7889]

@@maomaosgaming423 With the fire conversion why are you still taking increase necrotic damage on gear?

[@maomaosgaming423]

@@Cyrsia Yea you're suppose to go 8/8 dance with death, I was making a route for leveling, and forgot to go back down to fix it, since you don't take that node in the beginning, only after you reach level 65+ and have a somewhat proper setup. It's updated now, thanks.

[@Cyrsia]

@@maomaosgaming423 Thank you very much

[@FiercedWoW]

Hey, You said you would go over the relic and the weapon later on, but then never did. Whats so good about both of them?

[@maomaosgaming423]

Marina's lost soul wand will boost your dmg on Deathwaves because of the Doomcall node in Death Seal, since the wand will apply Damned on yourself, and each stack of damned on yourself is 10% more dmg on your deathwave. Grimoire is good for damage mitigation on potion use since it gives damage reduction on Void/Poison/Necrotic dmg, which synergizes well with the on potion use for the -50% phys/necrotic dr from your passive tree.

[@mijah139]

when do you spam hungering souls vs rip blood?

[@maomaosgaming423]

Typically you will be just spamming rip blood 90% of the time after you transplant. If there is a high health mob or bosses, you would start the fight with Transplant -> Death Seal -> Hungering souls 5 or 6 times -> spam rip blood, repeat. Mono echos you are mainly just transplant, death seal, a few clicks of rip blood, move on, goto the objective, ds - transplant- hungering souls 2 or 3 times, done.

[@gabecranmer6086]

​@@maomaosgaming423 why death seal after transplant? Wouldn't you want death seal damage to apply to the transplant hit

[@maomaosgaming423]

Yes DS before engage typically, but depends on the situation.

[@Stompin40]

Is this build still viable?

[@maomaosgaming423]

They fixed the cursed limbs bug with bone curse, so no more 3 million crit with hungering souls on dummies. However, is this build viable for everything still even with the fix? Yes, though it would be more optimal just to run the build without hungering souls at this point and just go with the ethical crit lich build builder i have in description. Once 1.0 patch notes come out, I will be making an updated YT video for lich.

[@Stompin40]

holy shit you responded, never in a million years thought I would hear back from you. Thank you so much. Gonna check out ethical lich and play that. You rock@@maomaosgaming423

[@hkwsome]

Risky to build it, right, nerf inc?

[@maomaosgaming423]

No it'll be fine even after patch. It'll be more "balanced" dmg, the gameplay doesn't change, and the build itself doesn't change nor the gearing. This is my build from 0.8.4 pretty much. Just that after they do patch it, the dmg will not be so crazy (3 mil hits on dummy is not normal by any standards).

[@lizard_irl]

We need to talk, you are missing damage… washed up? 😮🥶🫣

[@maomaosgaming423]

Definitely washed up KEKW

[@maomaosgaming423]

Oooook, 1 point into Fire skull, updated cover, thanks for reminder

[@Exi89]

​@@maomaosgaming423 won't that mean that hungering souls looses all the DMG from necrotic affixes on gear? I'm not sure i fully understand the tradeoff/consequences of making that choice for.myself. Thx for the guide.

[@lizard_irl]

@@Exi89 its only the base 8 damage being converted, all the added damage is necrotic. 50% multiplier is op.

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@@lizard_irl oh I see that makes sense thanks!