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[@kar0x]

great to see karvarousku again!

[@MrDavidCollins]

I've been wanting to play again, so I'm excited for tomorrow

[@Waiden01]

The issue I have with monoliths is that they are ''endless'' ... I can go any direction, and I get random Echos. Compare that to the POE Atlas Tree that is cohesive, structured. I would prefer if entire Monolith Echo web was fully visible from start, it had certain shape and logic behind it and I could decide from the start which direction I want to go. This random fog of war web is one of the reasons why it feels like a chore.

[@joshuahensley9395]

The gameplay loop of each echo is terrible though, even if I had a path I wanted to take 'just run to the end' in each individual echo is mind numbing.

[@Waiden01]

@@joshuahensley9395 Yes, that needs to be also addressed. There should be only 3-5 Monoliths in total, or maybe even just one and based on what direction you go, you target farm the gear and at the edge there will be a boss that once you kill you unlock blessing.

[@toukoenriaze9870]

No

[@he5078]

If they go the PoE route and start adding tons of "non maps" content, such as stuff like delve, heist, etc, then monoliths would probably be fine. I like the endless branching system, and corruption being infinite is actually pretty cool (though they need to fix scaling), but its the echoes that are the problem. Reduce the amount of echoes and increase the impact of each. The exoskeleton is great but the execution is terrible. There also just needs to be more content but that will come with time.

[@Waiden01]

@@he5078 You are right. The fact they need to heavily improve on the Monolith system is obvious. They stated on the recent podcast that the biggest drop down of players happen in the transition from normal to empowered monoliths. I hope the upcoming Q1 update is huge.

[@tinecchi3648]

The corruption going infinity made me play a week longer then I would have without it. But the last time I really played was on release. Can’t tell if it’s just my poe brain, but I just need more to do then just run through stages. Nemesis was a great addition and I love that type of content. I just need way more encounters 😅

[@Deminese2]

Having an end to the progression where you can say This is the pinnacle of all content is needed otherwise you're running on an endless treadmill.

[@tinecchi3648]

@@Deminese2 yeah that’s where poe for example loses me tho. After a month I’m most of the time just done. Also my point is that the infinit part is fine, if there is enough content or stuff happening. Right now it’s nothing but pushing corruption. Make the journey more fun is my point. Also the infinit scaling makes you want to upgrade your gear more and more. A system like that has down sides for sure, but I rather see them improve it and make it good instead of putting a cap to it 😅 It’s a cool achievement that you pushed corruption the farthest out of everyone. Instead of having 2k people all at a cap of 2k, but some of those perfected characters could go up double the amount

[@tinecchi3648]

@@Deminese2 and if you hit your character cap stop playing then xD why does the game need to tell you when you have to stop pushing

[@alexwallin6401]

that shit had me bustin' up laughing when ghazzy said the red-headed stepchild thing and DM goes "what the fuck" hahahaa

[@knaz7468]

always great to see devs do these podcasts

[@ThePainqT]

I dont know what it is, but LE falls off in lategame pretty fast for me. Something is missing there.

[@JURITO1000]

Definitely. I do 2-3 full monoliths and I'm burned out

[@dropisgod807]

I get to empowered and realize I just ran 10 monoliths back to back to back jus to do it again. Jus needs more mechanics happening in echoes imo. Gets boring when you run from start to finish over and over, especially if you're going for loot you never get/you finally get it

[@RoyDurett]

As a new player i dont like doing the monoliths twice. Just skip normal and go to empowered.

[@beanboytastic]

I play LE almost exclusively on the steam deck for an offline arpg while I have to travel for work. Love it but will say that the UX is so busted and painful for doing even the most mundane things that I stop sooner in a league than any other arpg. Even PoE's steam deck lack of support is miles better. My question is does anyone on the team play on the deck as a primary machine, if not I'd recommend it the improvements and pain points are extremely obvious. That said glad to see it called out and will try the refresh in the downtime between other arpg leagues.

[@markhidalgo5712]

Wow we got Mike and Karv!

[@Jenkkimie]

Didn't know there was a fellow Finn working on Last Epoch. Funnily enough he started out by checking mic with "Torille (to the markets)", a common Finnish idiom for whenever Finns are in public. Anywhere. :D

[@rofltrance]

Ya, the space between normal and empowered was where I hit a big wall and then had to go to guides for ideas to improve my build in case I was missing survivability and damage multipliers somewhere that wasn’t intuitive to me

[@alexwallin6401]

gotta say, Mike, something looks different about you but in a good way brother!

[@morfea123]

I probably won't come back to LE midleague but next league for sure. Also, big up for oldtimer Karv!

[@CaptnLenox]

love LE and the devs! I am playing other games at the moment so I don't think the new event has enough to bring me back but looking forward to future patches

[@leederlee]

I’ll check out the big update for sure - monolith expansion sounds promising

[@mikegoldfinch]

i always seem to quit shortly after doing monoliths.

[@MaxxxMaxMaxx]

1:01:40 yes! But also, how do i know if im lvl 100+4 or 100+5 ???? That's what's missing.

[@kriskenmonroe1]

Corruption at the 300 point should stop scaling linearly as it currently does and instead become exponential.

[@Ontaro]

Down for FG minion build, let's go

[@albertozabeo77]

You need to balance old skills before Adding new ones. Some skill trees are “one build” surrounded by trash.

[@JoshuaSmith-hr1yx]

I just get bored with monoliths by the time a character hits empowered monoliths. The build is 'done' and playstyle isn't changing and the only thing left to chase is sparse gear upgrades.

[@toukoenriaze9870]

Honestly ... It's not that I get bored ... It's that around that time I usually get distracted by wanting to make a new char lel

[@geoffreyrutherford9665]

I miss karv in Poe

[@TegliG]

Is there any mention of engine updates? FPS drops still make the game unplayable.

[@rennac9666]

Not sure if Mike lost weight or if its the fresh cut, or both.👍

[@LPJMANGA]

LETS HOPE THE CONNECTION AND SERVERS ARE BETTER each time its been bad looking forward to the new update

[@2bringu]

I will play on Steamdeck especially when it gets officially verified

[@toukoenriaze9870]

Im down

[@MrMelani1]

i see Karv, i instantly click the video

[@SirCorrupt]

So wait nemesis is a core mechanic now?

[@AdrianVisan]

I think they mentioned that for now they want to make everything core so that there's a lot of content to do, especially for people that don't play on cycle

[@z3r0pointflux]

Do they even play LE anymore?

[@Nbd4-d8d]

the game is great, as long as you don't play a melee physical build. Then you will find out that there's not a single unique two handed axe and ring for you

[@jonathangrimes8975]

Apathy's Maw is the 2h axe melee builds use ?

[@Nbd4-d8d]

@@jonathangrimes8975 Melee physical?

[@jonathangrimes8975]

@@Nbd4-d8d sword catcher ?

[@Nbd4-d8d]

​@@jonathangrimes8975 troll?

[@esaedvik]

Torille!

[@emarbeats6896]

They tried. If PoE didnt exist I might try it again but when better options exist it's hard to return to titles that just fall short

[@ToxXxiN13]

Alot of people said the same about poe when there was diablo 3 to play instead and poe was ass cheeks.

[@williamschubert4819]

"They tried" implicates that they shouldn't continue to make the game like it's not worth developing just because POE exists.

[@dropisgod807]

​@@ToxXxiN13exactly bruh I will not tolerate this Last Epoch slander

[@stevesutton772]

Wow 4 days have passed and DM hasn't gotten this thing over 10k views? It's almost like his channel is botted or something.

[@Dewulfi]

Torille

[@furlough2327]

LE is never going to compare to poe as a live service game. I wish they would focus on a game you finish and come back for expansions.

[@toukoenriaze9870]

That's what it is

[@banishedbr]

i won't now, but you never know, they can at least try do their own live serviçe, if bli$$ can survive offering trash, i think they can manage

[@toukoenriaze9870]

@@banishedbr blizzard offers trash ... LE offers fast food xD ... Better than trash but worse than gourmette

[@jake82461]

@@banishedbr D4 is bad and LE is even worst lol

[@Noksivs]

@@banishedbr The difference is that Blizzard has its horde of fanboys, and an endless supply of money for marketing, with knows IPs.

[@michaelyohn5026]

first?

[@joshuahensley9395]

The game still doesn't feel finished, I run into some kind of visual bug or glitch in nearly every zone, the sound in the game hurts to listen to, I hate setting up my stash tabs more then once, the in game loot filter while neat is complete garbage compared to an filterblade even 5 years ago, monoliths are not only the most boring end game loop in any arpg, it actively disincentivizes killing monsters you just run to the end, dungeons have the same problem and are so poorly designed we already have a way put LP on items without going into one, unique items are absurdly vurbose while rarely doing something interesting, no skill has ever felt fun to play imo besides minions and I believe that's only because I'm not dealing with the lack of feedback from my own attacks, I will never interact with that horrid trade system that has an npc for each item, just trying to move my character through the game world feels terrible with constant studdering and stops, visually the game looks half a step up from an asset flip, animations for even basic attacks have hard cut offs where your character resets its body with every attack..... The game is a goddamn trash fire the fact the act like they have a real game if baffling when it's in such a shit place.

[@eRasown]

Won't argue on most points you're making as it's your opinion, but about the loot filter - really? You're just wrong. Filterblade doesn't measure up compared to what LE has and this is not up for discussion. What exactly are you filtering in poe besides bad bases and low currency? It's not like you can filter for specific stats on certain bases like in LE. Lets take this one step further: at least EHG bothered to add a loot filter to their game, unlike some 'indie' company that's putting millions into a sequel and continue to rely on 3rd party tools to make their game playable :P

[@c-tothefourth4879]

@@eRasown Filterblade absolutely destroys the LE filter. LE is absolute trash.

[@c-tothefourth4879]

That comment about the Bazaar API just lost me forever unfortunately.

[@Noksivs]

Sorry to say, but LE is going to be squashed in between POE 2 and D4 exp. The hype for LE is dead, just look at their miniscule player retention for cycle 1 compared to its competition.

[@toukoenriaze9870]

cycle 1 had a peak that was higher than any PoE league bar the current league ... cycle zero was only slightly below cycle 1

[@Noksivs]

@@toukoenriaze9870 Lies. LE Cycle 1 peaked at 71k players and LE had 258k peak at launch of the game. What do you think the launch of POE 2 will peak at? Also, PoE has a stand alone client that does not count into the steam players.

[@toukoenriaze9870]

@@Noksivs collectively was 256k and 150k was from steam for poe

[@99range92def]

@@toukoenriaze9870 Poes total peak players is over 400k on league start from both clients+ console.