Last Seen on CCTV Then He Vanishes, Friends Won't Talk & Wild Theories: The Crazy Brian Shaffer Case

[@itsLindsayJean]

Ian is great, he makes very thoughtful contributions to the conversation and has such a nice presence.

[@potatopeach111]

Agreed!

[@blinkur09mom]

Yeah I was just thinking that!

[@bytrinitydanielle]

agreed!!

[@ryyaannn_]

plus he’s so cute 😩

[@mariyaa111]

Josh, “I vaguely remember…” goes on to describe in full detail the butt tags ! 😂😂

[@jamieoherien9320]

PLEASE COVER THE STORY OF Hunter Baum from summerville SC!!!!!!!! He is my sons Heart Donor! Its an unsolved murder, and his mom is fighting for answers. There is NO SUSPECTS

[@beccascott1428]

Wow! I hope answers are found!

[@deadskinconsumption]

Omg commenting to boost this comment!!

[@ChelseaBrown-hg4vf]

❤

[@meganmarie9065]

I hope it’s covered 🙏🏼

[@mindyhardy5426]

❤

[@kandygibson6778]

My heart goes out to Derek. He has suffered such loss in a short amount of time.

[@ambersaura9988]

I always wondered why everyone looked over the fact he was prob cheating on his gf. Yall are the first to really bring it up

[@yvette0079]

​@@ohhtxWOW, good point, now that could definitely paint Clint in an even more suspicious frame.

[@happytrails699]

I thought the same thing when some other content creator covered this story. Why was he supposedly flirting with those girls at the bar when his girlfriend thought he was going to be proposing on their trip

[@shellybuttrum8869]

​@@happytrails699I think he was into men also

[@happytrails699]

@@shellybuttrum8869 I have to agree also.

[@BurnItUpp2009]

Brian's case is such a mystery. He literally just vanished into thin air. I personally don't think he's still alive unfortunately.

[@merlinshouseoffreereadings4641]

I don’t think he lived through that night. Sucks.

[@Airbzyt709]

Brian was bisexual according to the former lead detective. He said Brian’s high school gf told him this and it was corroborated by another person they interviewed (Clint? His father or brother?). See the latest True Crime Garage on Brian, released a few days ago

[@ohhtx]

​@@Airbzyt709Look up "tag" on urban dictionary. Means intercourse. "Tagging" means homosexual intercourse. Clint writing ass tag may have a whole other meaning than what was mentioned. Could Clint have been referring to his and Brian's interactions or those of Brian with other males?

[@ohhtx]

​@@Airbzyt709Look up "tag" on urban dictionary. Means intercourse. "Tagging" means homosexual intercourse. Clint writing ass tag may have a whole other meaning than what was mentioned. Maybe Clint referring to his and Brian's interactions or those of Brian with other men?

[@ohhtx]

Regardimg Clint's comment on Brian's MySpace - Look up "tag" on urban dictionary. Means intercourse. "Tagging" means homosexual intercourse. Clint writing ass tag may have a whole other meaning than what was mentioned. Could Clint have been referring to his and Brian's interactions or those of Brian with other males?

[@brookeadowling]

when my mom died it was heavily encouraged that we close her accounts to prevent fraud so i think that’s why his dad did that

[@aHavenForTheLost]

Excellent point!

[@srgwyoutube]

Im sorry about your mama ❤

[@chammaykala7047]

5th 666666

[@jcny11]

I’m sorry about your Mom. 😢Sometimes though with missing persons the accounts stay open for a while because it helps to establish “proof of life”.

[@brookeadowling]

@@srgwyoutube thank you ❤️

[@TheGhostInTheWires]

$1 mixed drinks with a $10 minimum in a college bar is probably the worst idea I have ever heard in my life 😂

[@Jo-hi9oc]

agree!!!!

[@SassyShell13]

💯💯💯

[@CaseyAvalon]

😂😂😂😂 for real

[@chloebessell5302]

My uni in aus did $2 per can per hand you could keep going back jugs were $10 this was for a 4h period then everyone would go for a pub crawl in town

[@NevadaLamb]

I heard it wrong and thought it was $10 maximum, cause you know that would make sense, but minimum?!! Omg 😂😂

[@strawberrylime33]

Why are there so many cases where the friends won't talk?? Shanquella's "friends" won't talk. And there's a case that Kendall covered about a woman who went missing while kayaking overseas, and none of her friends are talking either!!! Why?

[@ConsterL]

Will anyone ever be prosecuted in the Shanquella case? It’s infuriating

[@annmaddock4569]

​@@ConsterLtotally agree, haven't seen any more about her lately

[@derp_dragons]

In both cases the "friends" seem so untrusthworth (at best) and straight up suspicious. In Brians case it didn't have the same vibe (to me), they did cooperate at first, no? (and didn't leave the country with their dead friend left behind...)

[@itsalwaysteatime3803]

Because in both cases the friends were involved. And shanquella case ..how her "friends" haven't been prosecuted is very weird because there is videos of the "friends "viciously beating her.

[@Ipleadthefifth]

Or keneka Jenkins

[@barbarabell8674]

Love the addition of Ian and Alice! What sweet, smart young man!

[@TrueCrime.and.DeathMetal]

I love Ian too, he is a perfect fit for this awesome team. He’s very insightful and so wise for his age.

[@zouz8195]

Agreed

[@naturalmommy6152]

He’s great lol. He just reminds me of pretty bones because of the glasses and Stache

[@lavendercha]

ohioan here - regarding Randy's description of Brian being 'anxious' to go out that night, I personally wouldn't put much stock in that. It's fairly common around here for people (especially older individuals) to use anxious as a synonym for being eager or 'itching' to do something. my dad was similar in age to Randy, and was an ohio native his entire life, and he would use that phrase all the time.

[@yetiyarnworks6578]

Canadian here, and there was a long period of time when I thought it was a synonym for being excited and eager to do something. There are definitely a lot of people everywhere who think this.

[@lisaleandra1541]

Randomly listen to a podcast with the lead investigator on this case today. He has since retired, but gave so much information I had never heard before. The most shocking thing was that he said that Brian was not 100 percent heterosexual. He didn’t go into detail but did say that Brian was known to not be with only women. He has confirmed it and thinks this is the true reason between the up and down relationship with Clint. He believes that at one point they were closer than friends and others in their circle noted their closeness. He also insinuated that this line of questing was what got Clint to stop talking to the cops and lawyer up. I don’t believe Clint is in anyway responsible or knows anything about his death. I think this just shows how much of Brian was a mystery to even the people in his life. I think he kept a lot of secrets and because of that we will never actually know what happened to him.

[@selherrera95]

What was the name of this podcast?

[@lina__6286]

@@selherrera95 True Crime Garage episode 770 Brian Shaffer Interview

[@Felbicky1]

Could this be the friend who refused to take the polygraph?

[@tayleelew95]

I just commented about how i thought it could be a lovers quarrel

[@katerinasvoronos4964]

yeah I sort of had the thought that at least Clint had some feelings towards him

[@LadyGetDown]

I can't stand unsolved missing persons cases. I end up going down rabbit holes and lay awake in bed all night because the theories are keeping me awake!! My brain NEEDS to know what happened!

[@JenesisX]

Can you imagine a loved one being missing, how nuts it would make you? I couldn't handle that. Even if my dog went missing, I would lose my mind until I found them.

[@lyndsygillespie4184]

If you don’t know the case of Andrew gosdon look that one up now that one is crazy !

[@Johndoe21213]

Right lol

[@K8theGR8theGIGGLER]

i feel the same way. the maura murray case is the one that stays with me!

[@wulfsorenson8859]

@@K8theGR8theGIGGLERdid she get in a vehicle with a killer to escape the cops or get lost in the woods 👀

[@AmericanAussie1776]

I think Brian took off to party with the band afterwards, he told his friends he was going to talk to the band. The band left with a large group of people through a back service door. Another theory could be that he left with the band through the back door and then just walked over to Wendy's and someone or a couple of guys picked him up and did something nefarious. Maybe he made someone mad? I don't think he would have just left town and did that to his father or brother after their mother died.

[@jobae.4828]

Totally agree with this theory

[@suzymanville232]

Agreed. I don't think he intentionally missed his trip to Florida with Alexis (even if he did flirt/cheat on her). I don't think he would tell his grieving father he would be there for him if he knew he wouldn't be. If he wanted to disappear, I don't think he would do it from a bar that had so many people and so much security. He could not have known that it was possible to slip through the cracks.

[@djholliday5132]

I agree. I don't think he bailed on his dad & brother, OR the trip with Alexis. Highly likely he left with the band and something happened.

[@daniellewert6864]

It's possible the dogs went to the smell of food to Wendy's, but I own a bloodhound, who is not a formally trained tracking dog, just a family member and if she is tracking a scent and "working" you could hold a steak up in front of her and she would ignore it to stay on the scent trail.

[@Huff-and-Puff]

Yea usually cadaver/search dogs are highly trained to ignore other smells, especially food, when on the job. They are specifically taught to ignore those scents and focus on the scent for marking. I don’t buy the “they smelled food” theory. I do buy that a very drunk Brian went to Wendy’s for a late night meal and either got into someone’s car or did leave on foot, but because the search took place so long after that night, maybe the dogs just lost his scent.

[@suzymanville232]

If they even considered that the dogs weren't tracking properly they would bring in other dogs and try again.

[@sarahwardwell1896]

I have a 12 year old greyhound lab mix and she can find anyone anywhere. Sometimes I wonder if she loves McDs cheeseburgers as much, but she's by passed the burgers to find us

[@NevadaLamb]

Poor dog, doing his job only for people to think he’s just food obsessed! 💀😂 I agree that he tracked Brian’s scent to Wendy’s. Brian went to Wendy’s.

[@JugglingG]

I agree if the dog is distracted by what would be a very broad area of smell, then it would be unreliable enough to be completely redundant. There was a case of a student in the UK who fell asleep in a bin and sadly tipped into a truck in the early hours...that could be another theory and why the scent ended at Wendy's.

[@hannahg8656]

There are still billboards up in Columbus for this case despite how long ago it happened. I really hope his family can find closure some day

[@hollysealover]

I came to say the same thing! I live near and work in Columbus, and Brian is still talked about to this day. I think about his family often. It’s hard to imagine how difficult this lack of closure would be. I sincerely hope he’s at peace, wherever he is.

[@averagejaime]

I’ve been hoping you guys would cover Brian’s case for so long! It’s such a bizarre story and his loved ones deserve answers. I hope one day we will finally know what happened to Brian, whether he’s still with us or not.

[@seek2imagine423]

Yes it is. She said that at the beginning of the video.​@@DTA707

[@TrishaBMurray]

​@@DTA707What are you talking about? Kendall has never covered this case... Pretty sure every one else has, but they haven't and she hasn't on her channel either??...

[@Pluto_Is_A_Planet_]

@@TrishaBMurrayI don’t know what the first person you’re responding to said, but I could have sworn she covered this case a long time ago on just her channel or whatever, but it could also just be that I’m getting confused & thinking of someone else because I have watched this story several times on various channels. But, I too, thought she had covered this case before.

[@Pluto_Is_A_Planet_]

Also, even if she has mentioned it before, it’s still good to do a deeper dive on it since this case is just so bizarre & still has so many unanswered questions. So, I’m not complaining or anything at all. ❤️

[@SassyShell13]

I could have sworn that Kendall had covered this on her channel too. 😂❤

[@okaymikaela]

i used to work at applebees so the whole dollarita’s discourse had me dyyyyying 😅 i just wanted to scream “it’s mostly water!!!” 😩😮‍💨😂

[@naturalmommy6152]

All shaken drinks are mostly water lol. That’s why I get all my stuff straight up.

[@clairestephens4680]

They surely have to have a standard measure of spirits though, by law?

[@jenniferjaygirl1]

After my father died (my last parent left) I got on a plane and went to the Middle East for a couple weeks. All by myself. The only reason I told anyone I was going, was to arrange care for my daughter. Grief comes out in strange ways sometimes. I definitely already had a craving to go explore that region of the world. In my grief and disappointment with life, the urge became irresistible. So I can totally see the theory that he left as a possibility. Love your show!

[@isabellabeany]

fellow OSU student here!! this story is crazy. you guys should also do an episode of the disappearance of Patti Adkins. another story i think needs a lot more attention!!!

[@markbalentine-w6d]

from 195 Chittenden Ave, Columbus, OH 43201 Ugly Tuna Saloona 2 where brian shaffer dissappeared to Marysville, Ohio 43040 Patricia “Patti” Adkins was last seen leaving work at the Honda automotive plant on June 29, 2001 in Marysville, Ohio. 37 min (33.6 miles) via US-33 W Fastest route, the usual traffic so i use google maps the Patricia “Patti” Adkins was last seen leaving work at the Honda automotive plant on June 29, 2001 in Marysville, Ohio. Ugly Tuna Saloona 2 and they are just 37 minutes apart from each other in distance

[@Valeria-mq3qn]

I haven’t heard of it. Going to look into it now!

[@alexag03]

Thanks for sharing, I haven't heard about Patti either, it's good that more of us learn about it to create awareness 🙏✨️

[@ShelbySmith2015]

Omg yes! I just sent this one in on the case suggestion form on Kendall’s page, if you haven’t done that you should there too! 🩷

[@DyAnnMarie]

I actually work at the Marysville Auto Plant and that story is a legend for us, and every shutdown (week of 4th of July vacation) I always say a small prayer for her and that one day her family will have answers. It was 23 years ago last week.

[@hannamosinske]

This episode is so good, I’m loving the banter with Janelle and Ian, too

[@foreverwild9298]

She's flirting hardcore

[@TDoubleYu]

@@foreverwild9298being nice isn’t flirting… please stop

[@Chloe-lw5ti]

@@foreverwild9298Janelle is engaged. Being nice to a man ≠ flirting

[@kittybonez]

@@foreverwild9298You’re way too obsessed 😹 this isn’t your first comment on this, seek help

[@foreverwild9298]

@@kittybonez got a lady crush on her? Seek help creepy

[@kyllo6877]

lolll the shade posting the DUI page when talking about Justin Timberlake 😂

[@SassyShell13]

😂😂😂❤❤

[@samanthalyles-porch1456]

😂😂😂

[@Ipleadthefifth]

😂😂😂

[@AbbyVincent-y7s]

This case happened right down the street from me! Everyone still talks about it, it’s a huge mystery in Columbus

[@Benleyy]

Ive been seeing that everyone knows what happened & its not such a mystery in the town itself ???

[@NCollins86]

I used to live right down the street from there also! I've never heard of this case, surprisingly.

[@brittneytubbs3488]

​@Benleyy I'm from columbus and that is absolutely not the case. It's a mystery to everyone.

[@acky6174]

What do most people think happened?

[@theamethyst93]

@@Benleyypeople say that about every case when they live in the town

[@Smilin2bfree]

Kendall I’m sorry that I can never buy one of the sweatshirts to help out, but I’m on a fixed income and still years later paying for my son’s medical that has died from cancer at age 15. I can say I am so glad you use your platform for children or those that don’t get the attention that should have gotten or still needs. So thank you thank you for being who you are and for the people in your life that share your ideas. Give your little cutie at home a couple extra snuggles. 🦋

[@LumiSisuSusi]

I'm so sorry for your loss, and how you're having to pay for expenses that you simply shouldn't have to pay for. Sending you lots of love and hugs 🤗 ✨

[@xxThink_Againxx]

I’m so sorry for your loss. ❤

[@Beyou1986]

Something I think of too is that my daughter, who is only 12, has a panic disorder. Sometimes when she starts to panic or have a panic attack, she just begs me to take her on a drive. She just can’t stay in the house anymore, the walls are closing in on her. She’s only 12 and fortunately she’s never run away as a result of this because I do take her on drives, but if you’re an adult and dealing with grief and any other emotional/mental health issues and you have other resources, maybe this was the case. For her it’s a compulsion and she gets frantic. It’s not a logical, rational thought process for sure.

[@spoonlessvalkyrie7514]

I feel for your daughter and know exactly how she feels. It’s a completely exhausting existence. I hope she’s getting professional help. There is hope.

[@rylieb1334]

As a 27 year old with panic disorder, please give your daughter a huge hug for me. Panic attacks are such a damn terrifying experience especially when you’re that young. 😞

[@pugsrkewl]

hey, try to have her focus on slow breathing. When you breathe rapidly you produce carbon mono and that's where that feeling of not being able to breathe comes from. Just a little tip I have learned from working with gaseous medical products.

[@Ipleadthefifth]

👏👏👏 good job momma listening to your kids is number 1

[@DaisyCat927]

I developed panic disorder close to that age. I am sending you and your daughter so much love. Its hell. You're an amazing mama to take her on drives when she needs it ❤

[@firstlast1855]

The homeless mans nose looks similar to Brian's. With weight loss and facial hair also the angle of the photo how accurate can facial recognition be.

[@Noc504]

I agree. And with it being almost 20 years, he could’ve gotten his nose broken at some point that makes it look a little different. Way too close to not check him out in person.

[@1omarella]

I don’t think Clint lawyering up is that strange considering he was very close to completing med school and starting his career. With what it takes to become a doctor, he could’ve been worried about getting any more national attention than he already had and that causing him to not be able to get a job.

[@susandyke7318]

Clint was never studying to be a doctor. He was doing a PhD in microbiology at the time

[@blazenash87]

I'm so glad you finally did Brian's case. I have requested it a few times. There's another missing guy, Tyler and he went missing from the Easton area. So there's been a few missing men cases , they just disappear without a trace. But I have been to ugly tuna before, im from pickerington.. he was a few grades ahead of me. So I know everyone still talks about this case

[@liz1670]

So glad y’all are covering this as someone who’s grown up and still resides in Columbus! It’s a wild story!

[@heidileigh7023]

Brian's case has always bothered me so much. I'm 40 min from Columbus and frequented the party scene in the late 90s-early 2000s. Many men have disappeared leaving bars in Columbus the past 20 or so years. A more recent one, similar to Brian's case, was Tyler Davis (Feb 2019). Last seen on security cams after a night out, and an argument with his wife, never to be seen again.

[@heidileigh7023]

On a lighter note, YES those escalators were tricky after leaving the Saloona😅

[@joby3965]

I believe there is a serial killer or group of them from Indiana to Maine. So many young men have been killed while out in the bar district of Portland Maine. They were either never found or found in the river.

[@jessicaadkins3128]

Ha we might live close by. I'm about 60 mins north

[@K8theGR8theGIGGLER]

same- from knox county, ohio!

[@K8theGR8theGIGGLER]

@@jessicaadkins3128i’m from knox county and i’ve never heard of this case! i was also a toddler when he went missing but still

[@TrueCrime.and.DeathMetal]

The edit of Kendall at the beginning had me rolling lolol “help me” 😂

[@zebralove2840]

This one really has always bothered me, it is extremely sad and mystifying. I think many things can be true at once -- he was grieving his mother, he felt too much pressure about school and where his life was going, he spoke about wanting to live on an island - and he still met with foul play. I cannot quite believe that he would leave his father not knowing what happened to him.

[@andreamarksberry345]

I’ve seen Brian’s case covered by quite a few others, but you guys have SO many more details, more backstory and look at it through different perspectives. Y’all are so good at what you do! Plus, the amount of donations and support you give to the families of the victims is amazing! Please never stop!!! You’re making such a difference to so many.❤

[@MileHigher]

Thank you so much

[@HiBye-vt3gj]

It’s frustrating. It makes me mad. It makes me feel crazy. So many humans “go missing”. Boys, girls, the elderly… everyone. It makes me sad.

[@yetiyarnworks6578]

It makes me crazy just thinking about all the unfound remains of missing people all over the planet. Creepy AF.

[@AcidCasper17]

The lead detective (now retired) believes that this likely will not be solved. Pretty sad & frustrating.

[@susandyke7318]

Because he did a poor investigation

[@shawnessemarie]

I am so glad your finally going over this case I submitted this to you about 5 or more years ago . I live about 30 min from where he went missing . His brother works with my husband from time to time . Super super nice family and have such a tragic sad life. Check out also Tyler Davis it happened Feb 23, 2019 no sign or clues where he went . I have my suspicions. It’s also in the Columbus area actually to be specific he went missing at Easton mall in Columbus . He was with a friend and his wife . Super suspicious and crazy story . Those two stories I’ve always wanted you to cover .

[@kentuckyleigh9623]

Never clicked so fast. Thank you so much guys. This case has been one that has stuck with me haunted me really one of those I think of often I desperately pray it will be solved!!!

[@agostinodublino1387]

if you know anything about police's dogs, you know that they are trained to absolutely IGNORE food, other dog's smell, and so on. They never get distracted. So no way they're gone to Wendy "because of the food"!

[@NattieD911]

I was thinking and they’re also probably fed beforehand so they’re not hungry and sniffing for food around

[@rebeccawilliams6843]

Kendall this is a local case for me. I have submitted it in your case form so many times. Thank you for covering this!!!

[@arielthompson2003]

The confused editing when Kendal couldn't remember 😂

[@melissarose2311]

omfg IVE BEEN REQUESTING THIS CASE TO KENDALL FOR YEARS! Thank you!

[@taylorgaleazzi3431]

I’m curious if police ever questioned the band at the bar. Brian said he was going to talk with them and he wanted to be a musician, maybe he left with them. I worked at a bar and we had bands that would set up and leave through utility doors

[@ashleyswshr]

I’m so glad to see you guys covering this case. This may be one of the first cases that got me interested in true crime. Very confounding case to look into. This is up there with Maura Murray in terms of it being a total mystery.

[@anna_banana4100]

First time seeing Ian on the pod! The 4 of you together is such a vibe! Love Ian’s contributions and the combo of everyone’s voices is so calming ❤

[@kalebutevil]

so weird to hear about the ugly tuna saloona because i bought one of their merch shirts from a thrift store once because i thought it was so funny. it says “warm beer, lousy food”

[@ronnie-lynn]

1:07:27 The nose being so different. Could be simply a broken nose that healed crooked.

[@suzymanville232]

Perhaps he ran his mouth or whatever Clint was talking about that made the family angry.

[@DannaShaffer]

I was just about say it’s hard to tell if the nose is truly different, because the length and general shape looks right but you can see two spots that looks broken. That’s why the top looks wider and more squished, but it’s easy to imagine it not with the damage and it’s strikingly similar.

[@jdr9419]

Yes. That alleged ‘break in’ of the place where Brian was living always appeared strange to me. If Brian had a stash of cash saved there to run off and start anew, it makes sense that nothing appeared to be missing. Does anyone really know what a person has in their house or apartment? Why are they certain that nothing was taken except CD’s?

[@TheKerripope]

I graduated from OSU in 2006 and remember how bizarre it was (and still is). After listening to you guys it seems the police possibly didn't ask enough questions and investigate as much as they could have. So many things you had to say it's just a theory, and it seems simply questioning people would have helped tremendously. Unless they did do this and just didn't make it public. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Thanks for covering this case!

[@kathrynbillinghurst188]

Jannelle’s smile 😃 melts my heart…❣️❣️❣️ She’s so adorable! 🥰

[@-naivenostalgia]

A similar case is the disappearance of Damien Nettles. He disappeared in 1996 after a night of drinking & the CCTV even has audio. It would be great if you guys could cover it.

[@MandiMomOf9Channel]

So many tragedies in one family, it's absolutely heartbreaking 💔

[@Neurogal82]

I think I died a little inside when no one could name a Pearl Jam song.

[@IndigoCave28]

Right

[@mollieerobinson]

Lol same!!!!!

[@laurenheinzman5617]

Okay, thank GOD that I’m not the only one!! 🤯😭 lol I honestly don’t even know whether I’m more shocked or more just flat out sad that 4 grown adults in their 30s can’t name ONE single PJ song between all of them 🫣😵‍💫 lol ya’ll PLEASE do yourselves a favor and spend some time with Eddie Vedder - I promise you will not regret it 😝

[@jamesknapp64]

Jeremy is all I could name

[@saramatthews408]

Same!!!💀

[@Emrose93]

This case is definitely one of the most bizarre I have heard in a while… the Schaffer family certainly went through a lot, it’s awful. I feel so sorry for Derek.

[@languageartswithmr.m1627]

I am sooo consumed by this case. William “Clint” Florence asked for testimonial immunity; however, he was denied by PD. That’s when Clint lawyered up…… Clint has the answers we need! Could they have been involved in drugs? Maybe a drug deal gone bad?

[@ohhtx]

Or a relationship?

[@susandyke7318]

I believe they were doing and or buying/selling substances which is why Clint won’t talk

[@laurierice7687]

He wouldn't have been denied by the PD. The DA is the only one who can make deals. So you mind naming your source?

[@AnnoyedWhaleEye-zy1lk]

This might sound strange, but I'm pregnant and I watch you guys sm that my baby kicks hearing your voices! My baby loves your show too apparently 😂 Just thought I'd share that, thanks guys!

[@girlyOSAKA]

OMG I am SO excited you guys are talking about this case!! I was just thinking a few weeks ago how awesome it would be for you to cover it! As someone who frequented the bar that he disappeared in, it's truly terrifying and mind boggling!

[@tomsevcik1792]

Welcome Ian! You are great so far. Thanks for covering this case too guys. Always thought his disappearance was odd.

[@brandypurtlebaugh]

The work that you guys do is incredible & unmatched by any other channel I’ve known.

[@amandapearson133]

Thank you for covering this case! This one has always bothered me.

[@TraceyWales-nl4dm]

This case has stuck with me from the very first time I heard about it. It’s so baffling. I agree , I really hope he’s sitting on a beach somewhere playing music ❤️

[@Love_jen_jen]

I’m in Columbus Ohio. I remember when this happened. He is around the same age as me. Every time a body turns up, everyone thinks it’s going to be his… Or the guy who disappeared from The Hilton in Easton some years ago. I always thought Brian and Clint had a “thing” on the down low. If that played a part in his disappearance, I don’t know. That could explain a lot of Clients actions and jealousy.

[@dorothyminor7581]

I’ve watched many videos regarding this disappearance. You brought up things nobody else has reported! Well done!

[@lacey-k4d]

I live in Pickerington Ohio and I have never heard of this! I was shook when I heard you say Pickerington because I’m an avid true crime consumer. Excited to listen to the rest of the pod!

[@Lkhrobertson]

Pickerington, for me, is always Jennifer Crank and Pink, the Border Collie. 🐾

[@Derek032789]

Have you heard of the Circleville Writer?

[@psychecrow]

Wasn't he also at the age when schizophrenia symptoms can start? Paired with the trauma of his mom dying and maybe using substances.. could he have had a mental break that night and just left? I just heard of a case where a young man disappeared and his family saw him on a kick stream being "interviewed." He was very far from home and seemed disoriented and was homeless, where he ended up. I really wonder about the man in Mexico. If they didn't interview him, or he didn't even remember his old life. I don't know. This one is confusing. Anyways, thank you for the video and your hard work! I've heard this case before, but i appreciate hearing another perspective on it.

[@ballerman22345]

Don't think this is the case. He was about to complete med school so I am assuming he was in his late 20's. Usually there would be some signs, something off before that age. Got all the way thru college and med school without any issues.

[@as-h989]

@@ballerman22345he was 27

[@brandibucko]

The editing in this one is hilarious and much needed while I’m stressing about declutterring and packing to move 😅❤

[@HollhouseVanHouten]

Speaking of bad security cameras, the management company that “ran” our apartment complex recently went bankrupt and dropped out, the owners association took over and when handing over access to the security cameras the former management admitted that the entire camera system has been obsolete and haven’t been replaced or updated since 2006 🤪🙄

[@MelissaModsMetal]

I miss the MySpace days. Today's kids would die being ranked top to least favorite friends 😂

[@jessicamarsh9779]

Lol they’d be crying that it’s not fair that their not a top 8 😂, then the parents would schedule a meeting with the school & other parents & say “this is bullying, your child doesn’t have my child as top 8!” 😂

[@OkamiSamaa]

they wouldnt have the fucking attention span to sit and code html

[@sabrinabyrd5760]

Myspace was the best! I have no idea why everyone left for Facebook. I hung on to the very end 😅

[@potatopeach111]

Thank you so much for covering this case! I recently submitted it through your channel form, Kendall. I’m from the area where Brian disappeared and this case has baffled me and many others for years. Thank you for covering it with the detail and respect that you cover all your cases with. Also, Ian is a great addition to your team. You all are wonderful!

[@elizabethleann]

I wonder if anyone found the ring he was going to propose to Alexis with? If not it makes me wonder if it WAS him who went back to the apartment so he could get that ring. That way he could sell it for money that was untraceable. And since Alexis had already said she wasn’t going to run away with him maybe he just thought “Eff it”.

[@ballerman22345]

for some reason I still have suspicions about whether or not he really had plans to propose to Alexis.

[@susandyke7318]

@@ballerman22345agreed I think it’s been over inflated

[@CRosee]

Kendall that nail color suits you so well😍

[@purrisian]

y'all not knowing Pearl Jam songs is so funny to me, Jeremy is such a HUGE song

[@m2hnj]

My gen X soul died a little during that bit 😂

[@monicabarnett9231]

In my early 40’s and had the same reaction 😂😅😅

[@nikkikoz4720]

I too died a little inside

[@katlynalbert3296]

My favorite time of the day is when I get my baby layed down to sleep and I get in a hot bath and listen to you guys 👏🏼

[@michelleneal7206]

So excited to see your view on this case!

[@jill9405]

Whatever happens I hope his brother gets answers

[@dannysaysno]

Ian is so insightful. A very good addition to the team!

[@Dez808_]

Not the urban dictionary for ass tag 😂😂 I personally cannot rely on urban dictionary

[@dannigro8794]

I think the problem is is that this case has too many theories and outlandish stories and such supposition that you can’t take anything seriously. I think Occam’s razor is that he left with somebody and met with foul play and they got away with it.

[@susandyke7318]

Bingo

[@Derek032789]

Or he left alone and met with foul play and the person(s) responsible got away with it.

[@Kenna-ww4dz]

Best way to spend a rainy afternoon coffee, mile higher podcast, and chill 👌

[@Julia-d2c6u]

Lucky wherever you are!! I'm in California and it's 110 😢

[@mrsd2950]

Right I’m in Arkansas and thinking.. rain would be so nice and relaxing lol

[@Kenna-ww4dz]

@user-eg5qj4xd1i oh heck no im in texas, and it ran 105 for a few days, but its been rainy and cloudy the past 2

[@Kenna-ww4dz]

@@mrsd2950 texas here waiting on that hurricane

[@Airbzyt709]

The former lead detective said that Brian was bisexual, as confirmed by his high school gf and one other anon person that they interviewed. This info was released a few days ago - look up the latest True Crime Garage episode on Brian - they interview said detective. I think Brian walked to the Wendy’s and was picked up for a homosexual encounter and violence or accidental overdose ensued. I believe that Clint and Brian were in an on again, off again relationship hence the fights and passive aggression displayed by Clint. I suspect Clint clammed up in order to hide his sexuality

[@pennwoman]

Maybe yes. Or Maybe he was robbed, he was a big guy he would have tried to fight back. He lost, was murdered, & they hid his body.

[@Derek032789]

Is it confirmed that he was bisexual?

[@Amy.Munson34]

My 6 ft 2 dad did fall into a construction hole, he didn’t get covered with cement but he was stuck for hours, broke his hip and legs and he wasn’t drinking 😬 I was thinking maybe some kind of human trafficking from within the bar? Just a thought

[@IndigoCave28]

Good point.

[@aphil48]

I miss Tom! My 1st friend on MySpace☺️

[@AmberM-yy5ki]

Hilarious! I'd totally forgotten 😂😂

[@OkamiSamaa]

he stayed as my top g

[@lesliemcculloch1590]

“Federales” pronunciation…. Nailed it 🎯 😊

[@chaostakingflight7332]

57:56 elderly woman behind the counter in a small town is my favorite Pearl Jam song

[@mrsd2950]

Same

[@chaostakingflight7332]

@@mrsd2950 great taste!

[@suzymanville232]

Yellow Ledbetter is mine. But seriously, these people never heard Jeremy? I feel ancient now.

[@tammyhardy4279]

Exactly! Feeling old - Jeremy & Last Kiss are my favorites!

[@chaostakingflight7332]

@@suzymanville232 Daughter is another favorite of mine and if you want to go newer Release is great! I watch The Shesh and they make me feel really really old all the time when I watch that. And I think I'm only a handful of years older than Kendall. I'm 38

[@Kayleemxo]

Really off topic but can I just say how good looking of a couple Josh and Kendall are! You guys really compliment each other well 💞

[@anitawanggames4062]

Honestly, I can see him up and leaving. Something happened that just set him over the edge that night and left. He already had the plan. I lost my father at 25 tragically and I was about to start grad school. It really changed me and my whole family. Within 8 months of his passing I was living in a different state and almost even changed my name. Just my two cents

[@stevenmcghee6649]

This is one of the very few "disappeared" cases where I believe the missing person really might still be alive and well.

[@kaylabuasod]

That picture you showed of him in his graduation cap looked SO similar to the photo of the guy in Tijuana. I've heard of this case many times, but have never seen those two photos.

[@MellySellsVegas]

Pearl Jam was epic! Showing my age lol the small clip you guys edited in “ evenflow” was one of my favorites.

[@loisshaver4929]

Thank you! If you see something, say something!

[@Peeved100]

I'm extremely surprised neither of you have heard of this case before.

[@andrea-sl1cf]

Please do more of these unsolved disappearances. This one is really baffling and interesting. But glad you are covering it! :D Maybe do Jason Jolkowski also an incredible weird unsolved mystery with lots of theories.

[@meganveronicaG]

This case has always fascinated me it's bizarre! Not to take away from this story but, There's many cases that have theories and cct footage you should look into and discuss. -The Tiomthy pitzen case -Jennifer kesse -Lars Mittank -Steven Koecher

[@lisamariedougherty308]

I worked at Applebees in 2020 in Las Vegas and yes you can have more then 2. We use the tam card rules and you as the server just judge when you want to cut them off, its the same as waitresses and bartenders do in casinos for free drinks, its just really up the servers disgression. Also lots of bars in Texas do $2 you call it well drinks which is depending on the bar.

[@millaamankyyro6348]

That only makes sense. People handle their booze so differently. Some need just two servings to get too excited and cause trouble.

[@sarahx9573]

My mind goes to the idea he realised after fancying them girls that he didn’t want to propose, but he’d already told everybody he was going to, and being drunk and all the emotions being way higher he felt he didn’t want to let people down and just ran off, and maybe he got lost and sadly passed away; such a confusing case and very sad:(

[@ogadlogadl490]

Also with his mother death he had no reason to continue on with the doctor path, maybe he did decide to run away.

[@shaestewart5261]

I hadn’t thought about it until I saw the case slated for this week, but I would have sworn Mile Higher already covered this case! Weird. This case is definitely on my “if I could magically learn what really happened” list, right between DB Cooper and JonBenet Ramsay.

[@TRevorPAlumbo]

How bout Madeline McCain ?

[@charlisays]

And summer wells ​@@TRevorPAlumbo

[@stevenmcghee6649]

Certainly right up there! My "top five" would be: 1) Jack The Ripper 2) Joan Risch 3) JonBenet Ramsay 4) Maura Murray 5) Brian Shaeffer

[@lacyritchie6760]

I was a student at Ohio State when Brian went missing and it rocked us. We were all terrified and a little more cautious. That being said, I never found Ugly Tuna sketchy! They tried to confiscate my fake id once 😬😬 They had a big wall of fakes that security had taken and they wanted to hang mine up there. I convinced them to give it back to me and went on my merry way…😂. I just can’t believe this has never been solved. I hope his brother has found peace, and Brian too, one way or another. ❤

[@HaileyMadison]

IM SO HAPPY YOU ARE COVERING THIS CASE

[@TheMissChook]

Just wanted to say I’ve seen you Kendall and Josh in the last couple of months really come out of your shells and show more humour and personality in the pod just wanted to say I’ve really enjoyed it

[@Lkhrobertson]

This is one of the cases that will always stay at the top. Thank you for covering.

[@kayleemaland9900]

I remember MySpace I spent so much time making my layout and background pretty 😂❤

[@lilithsnymph346]

the editor needs a raise this is so funny lmao