Medicare for All: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

[@MrWascalwabbit]

He shoots down every objection but left one important thing out. The primary reason so many employers keep millions of people permanently part time is to avoid having to provide heath insurance.

[@watsonwrote]

This should've been brought up. I've known too many people working an hour short of the insurance cutoff. Total insanity.

[@emmanuelechem2811]

Yeah true!

[@LuiZ-jy1pi]

That's because it would give people another reason to refute excessive government interference, which is the number one argument of the right. "Why do they have to provide health insurance in the first place? Companies shouldn't be forced to do that. See what happens when government overregulates?"

[@ailaya5127]

That is also changeable. Here in Germany you don't have to pay for health insurance if you don't earn more than about 500$ per month, no matter the source/how many jobs. So, it is just up to your goverment how to regulate the non-payer-limit. I mean, here it is also a topic eg among students, maybe also among very low income, but not really a topic if you can make 650$+ in a month.

[@BethLove333]

The employers also use insurance as leverage/power over their full time or union employees. See GE threatened to take away insurance from their employees after the employees were striking for better wages- forcing them to go back to work. Imagine how much freedom you would have if your health care wasn't tied to your job.

[@clee_]

I'm a Taiwanese citizen living in the US. Years ago I suspected I had a tumor and called a doctor to try to have it diagnosed. They said they can schedule me for a CT scan in two weeks and it'll cost me $3,500 out of pocket coz I haven't met my insurance deductible. I hung up the phone and booked a $900 plane ticket back to Taiwan in 2 days, had my choice of doctor, had it diagnosed (it was an ovarian cyst), scheduled and undergone surgery, and out of the hospital all within one week. It costed me $3 as is standard co-pay for our country's universal healthcare system. I really do not understand the argument of higher prices, longer lines, no choices.

[@blackearl7891]

That's because america is convinced that it will lead us to communism.

[@mikespike007]

@@blackearl7891 yet it is fine for the police and fire service to be government funded but not health, too much profit in health. Or should I say too much profit in sickness

[@blackearl7891]

spiked my dude there is massive internal contradiction with the American psyche. Scare mongering on healthcare has been a thing here since Truman.

[@Odinsday]

@@blackearl7891 Americans actually love the idea of a single payer system like Taiwan's. Government run healthcare has consistently reached over 70% by the population, even by republicans. It's the politicians that are so god damn averse to instituting one because it would affect their money pools.

[@redw5162]

@@michaellin5290 bernie would've probably faced heavy obstruction from the senate (if it remained republican, and probably more so from moderate democrats), leaving him with very little options to take action on his proposed measures. it's either that, or he would be faced against intense lobbying from private healthcare companies. it's a big uphill battle for him

[@jacara1981]

A friend of mine went to Japan, he had a heart attack while over there. They billed him......a little over 1K USD. In the US the same treatment would cost him over 200K. He actually found it cheaper to fly back to Japan to see the doctor for a 6 month followup than to see his doctor here and the tests here.

[@behappy5869]

bbonner422 your mom wouldnt be dead, youd guys just be in debt. is it bad and unfair yes but she wouldnt be dead, shed get the treatment

[@CptMagnus]

@@behappy5869 "just be in debt" for who knows how many dollars... surely, you can pay that in no time and you wouldn't experience any kind of anxiety or psychological fears in face of a looming financial ruin, on top of living with cancer... and after all, what is the cost for a life?

[@behappy5869]

Human Resources the hospital cant turn you away, they have to treat you. is the health system here unfair nd put many in debt? yes but to say people wont get treatment is a disingenuous argument

[@sharann3482]

Tim G a German guy had a rare illness regarding is movement, the only successful doctor who could do a surgery was in the US, the cost of the treatment, 300.000€. Guess who paid it, Germany’s Universal Healthcare System (SHI)

[@E03Erick]

i lived with an aunt in japan back in 04 (we're both black californian natives), she got very sick and needed numerous tests and treatments. our neighbors were concerned about how expensive it would be. We were worried because japan or at least osaka was an expensive place to live .In the end it cost the equivelant of $60 and they were shocked that it was so expensive

[@maxhanson3012]

I got an appendectomy at 19 years old with a bill of $30,000. I couldn't afford the college I was going to anymore, which I had a football scholarship for. it has crushed me.

[@EmiliaArden]

I’m 24 today pondering how I’ve spent so much time working to pay off my medical bills instead of graduating from college. I’ll probably be 27 before it happens. Debt collectors are still calling two years later.

[@AlejoConejo-vb8ln]

Dude, why do you sound defeated?? FIGHT! Stand your ground and tell the hospital that you can't afford it and make noise, talk to whatever manager you have to to get a discount or anything so that you're able to study. Refuse to pay a single cent until you get a deal you can actually afford. Seriously don't give up or it's deadass gonna ruin the rest of your life.

[@debbievoss3709]

Do not give up. Someone, somewhere knows how to help you. Parent's insurance? Medicaid? Financial advisor at hospital? Financial advisor at Dept. of Human Services in your state, County, City? That's nuts that would block you. Keep looking for solutions.

[@maxhanson3012]

@@EmiliaArden same. thanks for understanding.

[@AlejoConejo-vb8ln]

@@maxhanson3012 Okay that's a bit too difficult to achieve though 😂. Just focus on yourself for now. But you right, everyone should have the right to free healthcare, food, housing, education, etc.

[@cbpd89]

I don't think most Americans realize they are one medical emergency from bankruptcy. My 2 year old got pneumonia. The medications, doctors, urgent care, ambulance, ER visit, and 3 day hospital stay cost us close to $10k out of pocket, and we have insurance! If our insurance had decided the ambulance was unnecessary, it would have been double that. Even if you're insured, one car accident can wipe out your savings. One diagnosis, one surgery. We used up 7 years worth of our health savings plan in one weekend, and it was a short hospital stay with no complications. Even if our taxes doubled, that year would have been a hell of a lot cheaper with Medicare for all. Folks with chronic conditions pay that much every year. Life saving health care shouldn't be this expensive.

[@rayxr]

Guess I'm privileged for thinking 20k in your savings as an adult over 30 is possible

[@holovoid_]

@@rayxr You are. Most Americans have less than $10k in savings, for a variety of reasons, chief among those is stagnant wages

[@juliehansen5696]

Didn’t you have an out of pocket maximum? Was it really $10k?

[@rayxr]

@@holovoid_ I'm a big believer in personal responsibility, so I apologize if I'm a bit too jaded. But: Why should someone be obligated to pay for someone else's medical issues? This might be a fringe case, but if someone chooses to smoke 10 packs of cigarettes a day and develop lung cancer, I don't think it's fair that I should fit the bill for that. Thoughts?

[@robbinova]

I had a friend who got sick last November with pneumonia which weakened her immune system and she contracted another illness that basically put her with kidney failure. She was in and out of the hospital basically the whole month and luckily she had Medicare to help cover it but had she not have it would have cost her over $250,000 money that she a college student doesn't have. The costs are just mind boggling and I agree 100%, the amount extra or not for Medicare for all would be worth spending than having one incident that leaves you neck deep in debt or your loved ones should anything happen. People really need to weigh the pros and cons. Anyway, I hope your baby is doing better now!

[@CMOT101]

I live in the UK. My dad had lung cancer. He had MRIs, Xrays, medication, radiotherapy, 3 operations to keep his airway open, an oncologist, surgeon and respiratory consultant, plus numerous stays in hospital. It cost us nothing. Except the usual NI payments that are less than most US insurance payments. No doctor declined treatment , no one asked us for money, no one gave us forms to fill in for payment. No we didn't wait in a long line. No we didn't get substandard care, no we didn't have to crowdfund, remortgage the house or go bankrupt. I am disabled. I have to have 14 different meds to stay alive. I pay around 15 dollars amonth for ALL my meds. And Brits consider that to be expensive. The truth is universal healthcare works, is not as expensive as private and if looked after properly, saves money. That's why every civilised nation has it.

[@oldmandeadpool1064]

But you still have private options

[@oldmandeadpool1064]

@The Artist Formerly Known as Darth Wheezius What I’m saying is, our socialists are liars. They keep putting all private or all government as the only choices forward.

[@oldmandeadpool1064]

@The Artist Formerly Known as Darth Wheezius By socialist, I mean those that posture themselves as such like Sanders whose called for complete abolition of private health care, which would lead to 100000 job losses in America, including my mother

[@eira839]

@@oldmandeadpool1064 i dont think sanders plan is abolishing private healthcare. its just offering a basic, comprehensive healthcare plan that the govt pays for and its available to everyone. then if people want to add private healthcare on top of that, they can.

[@thepanpiper7715]

Fellow Brit here to prove OP's point; How do those meds not warrant a medical exemption certificate? Also, hope you, your Dad and all yours are well. Stay safe. X

[@elinbergqvist810]

I live in Sweden and my 8 year old sister had to get an heart surgery, she was in the hospital for 11 days, we didn't have to pay a single dollar. The fact that some Americans life can be turned upside down over a medical bill is insane and heart breaking. edit: so this blew up.... To answer some of your questions. First yes in Sweden we don't have as large of an population as in the US but that also means we don't have as many tax payers. In Sweden only the people with salary over 195 dollars per year. The tax goes to our version of "state" from that you get free healthcare, free school lunch (good food) you can also get financial compensation if you are sick, home with children and more. For a reference some one who earn 3079,26 dollars per mount would pay 756,78 dollars in taxes. So there is not "the rich" who pay it's all of us. The main difference is how much money the people pay and what it goes to. In Sweden we have good welfare but basically no army and you have it the other way around. I am not saying that you should do as Sweden but there is a way you can get free healthcare but still have what you have. I don’t know maybe if you higher taxes a little bit and take a little bit of money from somewhere else for example your military budget or space forces thing that money could go to free healthcare. And also yes i know the change can't be done over night. Realistically if free healthcare is what you wont it would probably take at the vary least a decade to get to that point. But to start heading that way would yes indeed be the smart anything else is just stupid.

[@HelenEk7]

Some of them don't get hospital bills because they choose not to receive treatment because of the high out of pocket cost, or because they have no insurance. Which is even more heart breaking.

[@elinbergqvist810]

Helen E yeah I don’t get how it’s Evan an debate

[@KayleeFarnes]

The thing is, if my kids needed surgery, I'd go into debt making sure they're healthy. I'm still paying their NICU bills from when they were born. Meanwhile there's so many things I should see a doctor for for myself, but I can't justify the cost.

[@elinbergqvist810]

Farnes Family Scrapbook children always comes first BUT you deserve to be healthy too💕

[@didthatreallyjust]

I heard most sweeds arw rich

[@raynemichelle2996]

I live in Canada and yes I've had to wait at the emergency room to get stitches when I cut my arm, but that's because my injury wasn't life threatening. I'd rather wait 2 hours than get a bill for thousands of dollars, tbh.

[@steventodd787]

Exactly! And it's not like you still wouldn't wait 2 hours in the USA! I've waited in ERs here for ages.

[@JABRIEL251]

Seriously, I do not understand how this is an argument that people legitimize.

[@DefaOmega]

I'd gladly work 2 hours to make even just 1 thousand dollars, so yeah worth it

[@g.d.graham2446]

Who wouldn't

[@raynemichelle2996]

@@g.d.graham2446 That's what I'm saying. Who wouldn't?

[@DidntKnowWhatToPut1]

I'm British. My mum has been in hospital for the past 2 weeks recovering from a brain bleed. She had emergency brain surgery, MRIs and tons of medications. She's on the mend, and non of it has cost us a single upfront penny. Money hasn't even factored into the whole situation. The NHS is the most popular government program in British history. Nobody would change it for the world.

[@iain101010]

Except Nigel Farage, who is on film telling an audience that Britain must move to a U.S. style insurance system...

[@osmark86]

@@iain101010 and people listen to that guy. Insane really when all you have to do is look across the pond and see how that is going...

[@GreenLarsen]

Hope that the trade deal currently on the table between the US and britain dont become reality, as it state that all medicin used by the NHS need to be bought from the US. Good deal Boris :/

[@MillVillage]

Too bad Boris Johnson and the Tories are selling the NHS piece by piece.

[@vivacenontroppo]

​@Ajax Aidy I think all these vaccines have really melted your brain, amirite?

[@kittykatFL23]

My son’s insulin shouldn’t be $1000 a month when it costs less than $3 to make. Period. (Updated price in 2021: $2035)

[@heddaskarblokhin9447]

Holy shit, thats like our rent. In Norway you pay $250 in total for the whole year, when its paid off all medical expences are free. Until its paid off you pay $20-35 per dr. appointments and up to $50 per medication you take out, no matter how much you take out. You dont have to keep track of anything, you will be refounded automatically if you pay too much and you can see how much you have paid in your online health account. There you can also see all your prescriptions (which any pharmacy can access too), get new prescriptions, DM your GP and much more. I hope the US will see a change soon

[@McDragoneer]

youre damn right it shouldnt!

[@Beertjeboo]

beter yet, how old is your son? Under 18 healthcare including dental is free in the Netherlands.

[@clittle580]

Abby the Spoon Lady Bernie will die before any Medicare for all plan gets through Congress, unfortunately.

[@EBProGamer]

@Trump TheTerrorist cause you need horses for that, as far as I know, but don't quote me on that

[@Gnoggin]

The cost of insulin for me recently went from $20 to $260. As a T1 Diabetic, I will literally wind up in the hospital in a week, or die, without it. Insurance company wasnt actually sure if I needed it or not. Yeah, "Choice."

[@pierrelindgren5727]

See for us in Sweden, we'd pay about half that in full, then about half of the remaining for the rest. A little less since you're about 20-30 dollars into the 25% tier already with a 10% tier beyond that as well. Once the total, unreduced, cost reaches around $600 you wouldn't pay anything further. Reduced, it's lower than your monthly figure, though not by much. For any prescription medication, including some other things like contraception. Without messing with any insurance company or any other middle man beyond a doctor. For a 12 month period. Of course, the above is all moot since you wouldn't pay for Insulin in the first place. In Sweden we recognize your actual need for the medication to be able to live and don't charge for it and have since the 1950s.

[@svetlanasygiainen5339]

well, I guess you could also try Keto diet. maybe that could help you in some way :S I know my aunt is a diabetic, and she is doing better on keto. also, jesus, that's one hell of a price.

[@mariya2485]

@@svetlanasygiainen5339 keto works for type II diabetes, when the body still produces insulin. Type I diabetes patients have to have insulin injections, nothing else works.

[@Whistler-jx7pk]

Ouch, I feel for you, Lockstin. What choices do we have now? The 1 or 2 insurance companies who operate in your state? The single company that your Corporate boss chose for you? Not much choice for most everyone, unless they are rich.

[@svetlanasygiainen5339]

Aka Kulebyaka damn, that’s so shitty ! Diabetes sucks. Dunno what else to say. Hopefully America will have Medicare soon. Sorry that I can’t help. :(

[@derangeded]

I’m Australian, less than year ago when I was 15 I woke up with no vision in my right eye. I spent a full week in hospital, saw several specialists, and since have had 2 MRI’s. The loveliest people, best doctors and nurses, and accomodation + food in the hospital, and it didn’t cost a cent. My eye is all good, but I can’t put into words how much respect I gained for my country’s Medicare system. It works America

[@pasta-and-heroin]

mate im sorry to tear down a fellow aussie but im struggling to contain how pissed off I am that you included food in that list as something that was a positive I ate nothing but fruit during my stay last year lol, shit was nasty

[@ertymexx]

"BUT IT IS SOCIALISMZ!!!!!!" ;-)

[@Aurorasr91rs91]

As a Canadian, sure you wait a lit more. Sure if it's just for a cold you might not get to see a doctor. But the fact that you can go to a walk in clinic for free for a COLD and that people actually do it without worrying about how much it will cost is awesome. And if it is truly urgent, you won't wait. People here don't wait until they collapse to see a doctor, which means you may have a better prognosis (for instance cancer discovered early is better).

[@ertymexx]

@@Aurorasr91rs91 indeed. In sweden our right wing government is working hard to change our old system to a more US-esque one. Because why not let people die needlessly if you can make a profit.

[@lizablee]

I'm Aussie too. The thing that drives me crazy about the "long wait times" argument is the insular and selfish nature of the thinking around it. "I have to wait longer" actually means "others are getting treatment before me". Meaning others who would otherwise have suffered and died can now enjoy the opportunity to get healthcare. I'm currently waiting my turn for ankle surgery, because people who need surgery more urgently or who have been waiting longer are getting their turn first. These are fellow human beings and every day that I wait is a day somebody else has waited for. There's got to be a sense of solidarity with your fellow human beings before there can be true change. The USA is getting further from solidarity every day. It's like watching a car crash in slow motion. The democratic party is asleep at the wheel while republicans are driving on the wrong side of the road on purpose. It's fuckin scary.

[@yw9113]

As a German I'm so grateful that my country has provided public health care since the 80s. Btw I'm not talking about 1980s, I'm talking about the 1880s.

[@hisdivinegraceimperialmaje4178]

amazing from uk )))

[@craftycrofty377]

Henning Wehn: “We don’t do charity in Germany. We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments’ responsibilities."

[@herbertschulz4313]

@Conor 44 yeah 5 out of 140 years are rather tainted

[@presidentoftheussr5601]

@@hisdivinegraceimperialmaje4178 your health care sucks, still better the ours. Please don’t take offense,😃.

[@Karl_der_Genosse]

@@craftycrofty377 Exactly

[@davidscott129]

John passed quickly over a point that needs to be expanded. Tying health insurance to people's jobs is a horrible thing. I know someone who is stuck in a dead-end crap job because a family member has a chronic condition. Changing to a better job would mean a gap in their medical coverage (there's usually a 3 - 6 month waiting period to get coverage with a new employer). They cannot take that risk. In a similar vein, a layoff or plant closure can mean that workers suddenly have no coverage. Health care should be PORTABLE.

[@rhondah1587]

You can change jobs and keep your former healthcare if you are willing to pay the extremely high COBRA premiums. Most people cannot afford them and that makes it virtually impossible to have portable healthcare in the U.S. for most employees. With the Medicare for all plan, that would no longer be the case for employees who would then suffer no loss of coverage when changing jobs as their healthcare would have no gaps or connection to any employer which is the only way to go.

[@joaquincortada1483]

Great point

[@Moxtrox]

Healthcare should be permanent.

[@Azraleee]

Wait, healthcare plans in the US are tied to your jobs? That's fucked up...

[@emilybazer]

Thank you for bringing this up. My mom was a slave to Cox Cable. She was a corporate slave. She hated her job, it affected how she felt about life, it affected what kind of mother she was and what kind of wife she was. Thank God she was able to retire. She's a completely different person, it's like I never knew her happy until recently. She lost all her young years to that company so her and her family could have health care. And we were healthy. It was so damaging to our family.

[@aob6033]

When my daughter was three years old we did not have health insurance. We fell into that gray area of making too much to qualify for medicaid, but not enough to pay for private health insurance. One evening she fell off our neighbor's porch and got a concussion. By the time the hospital saw her and gave her a CAT scan we were already looking at thousands of dollars that we couldn't afford. Then they wanted to hold her overnight to make sure she was ok. We had to sign a paper saying we were removing her against the Dr.'s wishes. I had to make a choice that night between my daughter's life and becoming homeless. No one should ever have to make a decision like that. I spent the rest of the night sick to my stomach crying and scared to death. We woke her up every 20 minutes or so to check on her. It is absolutely a fucking crime that the US does this to people.

[@Stollberger72]

I am sorry to hear about this sad story. It's heart breaking. No parent should be facing such a decission. I hope your daughter has fully recovered and is being well. As a european I can only shake my head about a discussion if free healthcare for all is a good thing. It should be a basic human right. But don't forget: You and your fellow people have a chance to make a change in the next election.

[@RavenLunacy44]

Frank is right. I've been thousands in medical debt for years and nothing more than a mark on my credit score has happened. They will fall off my report in two years.

[@sentaukrai]

@Frank Tank 50% of a nightmarish bill is still often more then most average people can afford. When a society has injured people begging bystanders to NOT call an ambulance because they cannot afford the trip to hospital, that society has a huge problem.

[@johnkey1682]

@Frank Tank, people when presented with a bill however ridiculous generally feel it is their duty to pay it. They don't think 'well I don't have any money I cant pay it, so I won't'. They think I have a couple of bucks I put aside for groceries I can do without food for a few days and make a payment.

[@billhutchinson4524]

If you did not have the income you would send in your documentation and become a charity case. I hope this is not a true story hopefully your daughter is OK

[@Windarti30]

The exorbitant cost of healthcare in America is a result of several complex factors. Firstly, the country's fragmented healthcare system leads to inefficiencies and administrative overheads, with multiple layers of bureaucracy and paperwork increasing expenses. Additionally, the high prices of medical services, pharmaceuticals, and equipment contribute significantly to healthcare costs, fueled by a lack of price transparency and competition. Moreover, the prevalence of costly medical procedures, defensive medicine practices, and a fee-for-service payment model further drive up expenses. Addressing these systemic issues and promoting reforms focused on efficiency, affordability, and accessibility is crucial to mitigate the burden of healthcare costs on individuals and the economy.

[@Windarti30]

Investing can play a crucial role in helping individuals manage and keep up with healthcare expenses in the United States. By strategically allocating funds into investment vehicles such as health savings accounts (HSAs), individual retirement accounts (IRAs), and brokerage accounts, individuals can build a financial cushion to cover medical bills and unexpected healthcare costs. Moreover, investing in dividend-paying stocks, bonds, and real estate investment trusts (REITs) can generate passive income streams that can be earmarked for healthcare expenses. Additionally, investing in healthcare-focused mutual funds or exchange-traded funds (ETFs) allows individuals to capitalize on the growth potential of the healthcare sector while diversifying their investment portfolio. By adopting a proactive approach to investing and diligently managing their finances, individuals can better navigate the challenges of healthcare expenses and secure their financial well-being.

[@ERIKAESPINALchatbox1]

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[@christopherbohanan4453]

@@Windarti30sure, for those who can afford to invest but what about the 10s of millions who cannot… they need help, especially since the systems ensure that the vast majority of them never significantly improve their economic situation

[@hermaeusmora1827]

Okay GPT

[@QuelKin12]

As a european, I don't get why some americans are so afraid of Medicare for all. My country's system doesn't lose any money and we barely pay anything (except for comfort treatment which is payed by company health insurance). Not paying an ambulance to get to the ER seems the bare minimum in a civilized country.

[@ginnyb6392]

America is a 3rd world country unless you're rich

[@brasilianloser]

Because America is trash can if you have no money. Even if you are in a six figure job you can still easily find yourself in some severe hard times with a single medical emergency. And yet year after year people allow politicians and corporations to continue to bend us over.

[@spiffanator]

I heard somebody tried to use the population argument to try and shoot down health care for all. I'm not sure that has any Merit. Imo of cores.

[@peterpain6625]

The baby boomers don't get the problem because it's all fine and dandy for most of them. And those are the people at the steering-wheel ... for now.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

its propaganda by insurance industry

[@Crowley9]

One thing I wish Oliver had brought up is that when the cost of an individual visit to the doctor is no longer an issue, lots of people would go see the doctor about minor health issues. This would lead to great many medical problems being caught and treated in early stages, and less people suffering from serious medical issues would be a net benefit to society.

[@ELWest1000]

YEP! That's also why it needs to cover dental. Most people have no idea how much their dental health affects their overall health, that is until something goes wrong. Also vision because you need to be able to SEE.

[@qwerty48324]

Maybe if we could get people to stop shoving those pineapples up their asses it might actually lower costs.

[@Sandra-pn5rv]

You are right... the best medicine is the preventive medicine

[@MC-up9nx]

Yeah I've never seen an estimate of how much the treatment of overall health and preventative medicine would save.

[@blackmail1807]

@Jody Owen did the fact that roads that you drive on were built for "free" make you an irresponsible driver?

[@monkiram]

I'm Canadian and I will never forget the first time I learned, as a teen, that not all Americans want universal health coverage. I was sitting beside an American girl on the plane who was around my age who was telling me why having free healthcare would be bad and I was completely mind-blown. I grew up with the mindset that I could walk in to any hospital or clinic or call an ambulance and get high quality care without paying anything so I always thought the fact that healthcare is a human right was a no-brainer. Sometimes it feels like Americans are like that girl who's only ever been in unhealthy relationships and when she meets a great guy, she breaks up with him because she thinks something must be wrong with him to be so good to her.

[@jessaguilar4747]

I read this joke once that Canada and America are England’s kids. Canada was the good kid who stayed close to mom and followed the plan. They ended up with a healthy country full of happy people. America was the rebellious little shit who spit in mama England’s face. America ended up with a country full of crazy people who want to go to war all the time. Moral of the story is: be a Canada. Lol

[@dirtlegchaser2424]

@sleepypie roll tide

[@monkiram]

@joe 6pack They only charge you if you didn't really need it. You probably called for something non-urgent. Nobody I know has ever been charged for calling an ambulance

[@--enyo--]

Ditto from Australia. Taking care of your population isn’t just the right thing to do, financially it works out way better in the end as well.

[@Seif-Music-Videos]

Bavo I wouldn't have formulated it in a better metaphor. Indeed, I am astonished how it doesn't come as suspicious for many Americans how proud they are of their system. In a vulgar generalization I would say Europeans complain about their healthcare system, and even in Canada we know our system doesn't do as good as in Europe but we're proud that we're doing better than the US on many variables. The US healthcare system has the single worst outcome among developed nations and yet Americans believe they're number one...speaking of a blue pill and a rabbit hole...unbelievable.

[@Peachtreedishes]

I’m Canadian, from Quebec. I watched this episode and another one in November 2021 while waiting for a colonoscopy at the hospital. They apologized for the delay, I said, it’s 8000$ in the USA. I couldn’t afford it, so I don’t mind waiting a bit. Especially during a pandemic. The nurse was surprised and thanked me. No need, I don’t mind waiting 60 mins under a warm blanket to see a specialist. Thanks to John and team.

[@M60A3]

I live in Québec too and I happy to know I won’t have to pay for a life saving surgery

[@KrisCorby-iv8dg]

Hey neighbour!... I'm in Ontario, & am beyond happy, that having played sports all my life, my broken bones have not put me in the poor house, or forced me to leave sports! I don't understand Americans, badmouthing a Canadian system, they don't understand! Maybe they're tuning into "fake news!" 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@MarsIJOB]

"He drove me not to the closest hospital, but to the closest network hospital - the bill was 3000 dollars". This sounds so weird if you are from Europe and makes me appreciate our healthcare system even more. Can't imagine living life in fear of going bankrupt because my appendix has to be removed. If it has to, I go to the closest hospital and it costs exactly zero dollars. If I have a job or not. Welcome to humanity. America, go for it.

[@369TurtleMan]

MarsIJOB I had a similar situation happen to me, except that I was charged $6k. Lost what little faith I had in our health care system.

[@hrch105]

Be careful... your conservatives are trying to move you into a system more like what we currently have.

[@qlqnen]

@Tom Guadalupe What the fuck. "So you go bankrupt, big deal. You're in serious debt because of a sickness you could have not prevented in any way, but at least we're not communists like the rest of the developed world."

[@Fuctmentality]

The problem is that big businesses use heath insurance as leverage against their employees, and the medical industry makes up about 1/3 of our economy, and 1/3 of Americans are part of what's called the Republican party which unofficial motto is "fuck americans , fuck america!"

[@xDDufiosy]

@@Fuctmentality can you explain how companies use health insurance as leverage?

[@NewMessage]

In Canada, wait times are only an issue if you are in the emergency room with a head cold, trying to push the guy in respiratory arrest out of your way. I'm never waited more than 20 minutes for anything important.

[@MichaelGGarry]

UK NHS is the same.

[@gridvid]

In Germany as well

[@evokerzz]

Estonia as well

[@RattaBagatta]

In Italy is the same

[@jpkey87]

I work with ER charts in the Chicago area, the wait times are just as bad currently, if not worse. Some wait up to 6 hours just to be seen, a good majority just leave. I'm all for universal healthcare. It's a change and it's a scary one for sure, but in the long run it'll be much better.

[@Shinku_no_sanbun]

I went to the emergency room because I had a paranoid breakdown (I'm schizophrenic). They didn't give me medication, they didn't give me a room of my own. They propped me up in the waiting room between someone talking about homicidal thoughts and someone throwing things (great place to put the paranoid patient, sure). I was there for about 12 hours, during which I got to speak to a doctor for about half an hour but was given no treatment of any kind. They just waited for it to be over, which I could have done at home and at least then I'd have a cat to sit with. I was charged over $2,000 for that AFTER insurance. Now my therapist is telling me if I feel paranoid or suicidal again I should call an ambulance. I'm like "Fuck no, I can't afford that, I'll just kill myself (or potentially someone else if I'm afraid of them for no reason) thanks." That's the kind of health care you have in the US, the kind that leaves you at the mercy of people like me that can't always understand what the reality around them is. I should be in a fucking asylum, I don't feel other people are safe around me when I have episodes, but I can't afford it. Oh but I can afford a gun, and they'd give me one if I tried to buy one because they don't check mental health history. So that's something.

[@kittysplode]

so that's sorted, and cheap!

[@pillowprincess3673]

This makes me so angry and sad! Vote right (LEFT🤣) this year America! You have the right to universal healthcare! Some of my friends who aren't into politics can't believe that you don't have it. It's insane from a European perspective! All the best of luck to you!!!

[@ladyrose9386]

I feel you there. I really do. I had several panic attacks and I went to the hospital for them too, the treatment I always got was kinda the same, then I just stopped to go there...I'm sorry for what you have to endure, but I feel that pain...I hope it will get better, I'm sure someday it will, killing yourself is not worth it, never. you can't know the future, at all. not worth to just end it, really

[@johncrabtree5048]

I'm a psych nurse, I'm sorry brother. You do belong with us. Paranoid schizophrenics are my favourite patients. To me you are heroes who bravely fight your own mind every single day. May I suggest Invega Sustana, or one of the other long acting prescriptions? If you go to the drug manufacturer's websites you can often get savings cards to help with the cost. I have to do that myself. Until then vote Bernie. #NotMeUs #PowerToThePeople

[@FromDataMakeInfo]

Thank you for sharing your story. NRA always blames mental health - but doesn’t lift a finger to help fix it. Thank you for being so brave, and facing the world everyday - and trying your best. I have been in very dark moments/places in my life too. It may be hard to visualize now, but trust me, life does get better.

[@pwpaulwest]

2 weeks ago I had a STEMI heart attack. I live in a rural area in Australia. Ambulance to hospital, ambulance to airport, Air ambulance (helicopter) to larger regional hospital with a cath lab, 2 drug eluting stents, 3 days in ICU and a cab for the 1 1/2 hour home trip. Total cost was $67 AUD for my discharge meds. I love universal health care!

[@mohmu9]

Meanwhile in Norway, I broke both my legs a few years ago at a party passed out got picked up by an ambulance turns out I require immediate surgery, got the surgery a few hours after arrival got checked in and got a bed and care for a weak and then an ambulance got me home on my release day, the ambulance staff got me up the stairs and into my bed gave me a wheelchair and built a wheelchair accessible environment inside my house and even though I know that our health system is cheap I got scared about the cost only for them to tell me that I owe nothing because I've already paid for it in taxes, my god do I love my life and country

[@chubbydawme]

The people who drove you home in an ambulance altered your house so it's wheelchair friendly? Like did they move furniture and stuff?

[@bebaguette766]

"SOCIALISM" sure does suck!

[@ElusiveEllie]

You uh. You looking for a wife? Hahaha

[@mohmu9]

@@chubbydawme yes, but only after I allowed them to

[@lytuy7952]

@@mohmu9 There's someone asking if you want a wife too, you know. Don't leave her hanging.

[@nickhahn5412]

As an American, I NEVER cease to he amazed by how easily Americans can be talked out of their best interests. Its astounding and embarrassing. The people who need medicare the most are the most vocal about disliking it.

[@asdfg78547]

That is exactly my question. I am Japanese and I just don't understand. There must be a lot of poor sick Republicans, too. Why don't they want affordable healthcare?

[@p1ish]

@@asdfg78547 because the Republicans told them it was bad 😒

[@armandoramirez8960]

It’s identity politics from people on the right man... I’m critical of the left when I have to but it’s safe to say a HUGE majority of Republicans just vote because of party disregarding their best interest. As long as they “keep winning” they don’t give a shit.

[@2pack716]

Kay Suzuki Republicans/Libertarians would argue that it’s a matter of principal, not out of lack of compassion for those in need. It’s our belief that you’re guaranteed very few things in life just by existing and health care is not one of them. Again most of us would be happy to help pay for the health care of the people in my community if they needed it, via a consensual transaction, but refuse to accept that we can’t pay for our own private health insurance if we want it.

[@mfpope7431]

There millions of dollars in lobbyist money going towards convincing people against it. They give money to politicians, political pundits, and new anchors to spread pro corporate healthcare talking points. Don’t blame the people who get manipulated, blame the manipulators.

[@NKzutube]

I got a procedure a couple years ago! After TENS of calls to the doctor, Hospital and the insurance company to make sure everything was IN NETWORK, several weeks after the procedure, I GOT A HUGE bill in the mail. When I called the insurance, they said the ANESTHESIOLOGIST on the day of my procedure was OUT OF NETWORK! I HAD NO WAY TO FIND OUT THAT OR CONTROL THAT, IN ANY WAY AT ALL! Despite doing everything I could, I still ended up paying THOUSANDS! The US healthcare system is a SHAM so the ULTRA RICH CAN PROFIT OFF of our hardship, suffering and disease! MEDICARE FOR ALL! Bernie2020!!! Btw, I have since moved to Canada and LOVE the universal healthcare system here! I can literally go to ANY DOCTOR OR HOSPITAL ANYTIME AND DONT NEED TO TAKE OUT MY WALLET AT ALL! Please don’t buy into the scare tactics of the media and lying politicians, GO FOR MEDICARE FOR ALL! GO FOR BERNIE!

[@2Exile0]

Same thing happened to my wife. In network hospital but out of network anesthesiologist. We had no clue and no one told us. We appealed for a year and got turned down every time. We ended up having to pay and it sucked cause it was not our fault. Why would an in network hospital have out of network doctors? That is fucking stupid.

[@davidhollenshead4892]

Imagine that a member of the one percent broke your back with his habitual drunk driving / attempted hit & run and you became bankrupt for life… I don't have imagine it, as this has been my life since I was twenty two... You can sue, but it will cost you $3 to $4 for each $1 you collect... This is why I only collected $1100 from him, and the family of a medical student he put in a nursing home collected absolutely nothing... F-you Mr. M. Sidhu & F-you Progressive too !!! Progressive: You insured his Mercedes for more than his Liability because you are sick !!! F-you CHP, as you demanded a blood sample from each of us and they were negative of intoxicants, but didn't breathalyze a habitual drunk driver !!! So he caused a fifth injury accident !!!

[@kevin_00001]

I'm in Europe and I pay 250€ / month for healthcare.The only thing i need to pay is 5€ for each medication. Nothing for surgery, regular check-ups, psychotherapy, physiotherapy, ...

[@cyberneticbutterfly8506]

And beyond Bernie you guys need something to rally around after his term(s) are over. And representatives that either honestly support, or paint themselves into the corner of, that vision for america. And fixing the ouroboros political system of gerrymandering, two party system, media manipulation that lead to this mess in the first place. Only way I see out of it is to build enough support for the causes to win by wide margins every time multiple times in a row on every level of governmen.

[@terrystillabower7356]

I had a similar problem with a shoulder injury. The doctor got so frustrated and i was in such pain he schedule the surgery and told me the office would take care of the insurance. The amazing thing is that they did and my bill was about 1,000.

[@danielgonzalez5787]

Let's get real, those who oppose affordable healthcare are those who have investments in insurance, pharmaceuticals or medical supplies companies.

[@rsr789]

And the politicians that they own...

[@mrbrunoguy12]

And the people they have brainwashed

[@MasterArchfiend]

That’s basically everyone defending every problem this country has. People forget that they are going to die and that stack of money is going to be ripped from them as they are dumped into a ditch.

[@manda60]

Or they're inbred morons.

[@britannic27]

It's amazing how something as "radical" as Medicare for all is just common sense in other countries

[@britannic27]

@Larry Byrd Wow. I'm sorry mate. Longshot but I hope something works out for you. But you're story is exactly why we need Medicare for all

[@targetstore949]

@Larry Byrd I'm sorry that happened to you

[@ragglock]

Everything that works in other countries is "radical" because murica....

[@aish125]

@Larry Byrd I'm so sorry what happened to you..I was searching articles about Car-T until I read this comment.(My niece is in remission of ALL,We're Japanese)I found exactly "Trump Administration" made car-t available medicare benefit for "ALL"..It sucks.really sucks.Hoping there will be other way!!!!

[@surge208]

You’re a badass, Larry Byrd, and our country has become a shithole meant for oligarchs over Americans.

[@JennLonhon]

As a doctor in a country with universal health coverage, this really grinds my gears. Is it perfect? Of course not. But did it ever bankrupt anyone? Heck no. I get that the American system is actually built to bring profit to private companies, but it is also the reason I would never even consider working there. Doctors may be paid a lot more money than here, but damn, the patients get really screwed really easily

[@sullyFL]

Doctors offices also waste hours every day arguing with insurance companies. If imagine if every test you need to run needs approval from a company with a profit motive to tell you “No, we don’t think that test is necessary” or that “this is a less expensive test” and we’ll only approve that one (even though it’s not as good).

[@thehumanity0]

Doctors here actually advocate for Medicare for All as well. You just never see them on the news because they easily debunk the bs arguments from political pundits, who prioritize corporations & the powerful over the well-being of the people & patients. It's pretty disgusting.

[@nancymarg8513]

My husband was once told by his insurance company that he needed to go 2 states away (about an hours drive maybe longer) for a CAT scan to verify that he had a concussion. His doctor ended up calling the insurance company and fighting with them and then the doctor ate the cost for the CAT scan in the hospital he was at. That is why Medicare for all should go through

[@clanceychadwell7848]

@@sullyFL They also spend inordinate amounts of time arguing with Medicare and Medicaid, which can be even worse in delays. Believing Medicare and Medicaid are any more benevolent than in daily interactions than private insurances is simply inaccurate. Source: am doctor

[@NotReallyADoctor]

@@sullyFL Medicare does that too. Medicare is a government run insurance company. If Medicare paid every test that every doctor billed for, it wouldn't be sustainable. Many insurance companies actually use Medicare's guidelines when it comes to medical necessity. The positive difference is that Medicare is not negotiable, where as private insurance can (at the employer's discretion) cover things that Medicare would not. This makes things complex and time consuming as they have to find out how each individual plan covers things. On that same note, Medicare has flat deductibles and copays. Private does not, it varies immensely. Again, this adds hours of time for doctor's offices to figure out each patient's plan. I support Medicare for all but it's actually still health insurance.

[@felixfruhauf4940]

Watching this as a German, I a) don't get why Americans put up with this and b) was shocked that a health aid organization, literally founded to help developing nations, saw a bigger need in the US and went there instead... oO

[@Iffem]

we don't want to put up with it, but so many of the politicians have been bought off by the insurance companies that we can't get anything through

[@robillionaire]

why do we put up with this? Because we live in an oligarchy and the for profit insurance and pharmaceutical companies own our politicians, media, and government, and effectively brainwash our people to believe universal health care is impossible or won't work, despite evidence it works everywhere else in the world

[@kpepperl319]

Brainwashed to a point where it is purely a cult like population who are gladly screw themselves just to screw the other guy.

[@angels_in_velvet]

My friend in Germany says the same thing. Americans never vote for their best interest.

[@AmbyJeans]

Rob Collins Yep exactly this. It's frustrating and terrifying.

[@erniebell1858]

I've been trying to get my Korean wife enrolled through Medicare. However, since I am a retired service member in Korea and my wife is Korean they said I have to go through the US Embassy in the Philippines. I started in March 2021 and some of the delay was sending certified mail to Manila. I did that through a military postal service. It took a month to get to Manila, the Philippines and sat there for 3 months due to a lock down. Finally around October the Medicare section in Manila said all the correct paper work was done and was sent to the US for processing. My wife still hasn't received anything and now it has been 11 months and 2 weeks since we have started. I contacted Medicare in the US but they said I have to check with the US Embassy in the Philippines. However, the US Embassy says they have to wait for Medicare to finish in the US. Talk about lazy, worthless and incompetent people. As a retired US Army service member, I was proud to serve my country. My only regret is that we also serve and protect those who could care less about us.

[@theengine]

No one on Fox New has ever said "But how are we gonna pay for that" when we send troops to the Middle East. Not once.

[@Lionfish5656]

Great point. This is because they're bought off by the military industrial complex which is what Dwight D. Eisenhower warned the American public about 59 years ago.

[@tegridyfarms9972]

Or on CNN or MSNBC.

[@seanmatthewking]

@@tegridyfarms9972 Facts. Let's not pretend Fox is alone in this sin.

[@wiggy8912]

Cody Crouse they’ve been “bought off” because the US military is a lot more self-sustaining than most people think. That spending brings a lot of new tech. Tech that eventually reaches the public by the way of new and innovative products. And that tech is licensed/sold by the military, which brings sustainability to the system.

[@theengine]

@@wiggy8912 Really? Tell that to the shitty GPS units and computers I had the entire time I was in the military.

[@moewkittylove]

As a German it is unbelievable to me that people wouldn’t want health care accessible for everyone

[@cmc5207]

We do want it. Our corporate masters dont.

[@Acmecaboose]

moewkittylove probably half of those people think “I got mine, get yours.” The other half has been convinced that implementing a system like this one is another step closer to calling each other “comrade.”

[@flowfademedia4797]

A lot of Americans have been brainwashed by the ruling class

[@aenorist2431]

Brainwashed fucktards, half of them dying of preventable diseases themselves ... just sadly not fast enough to qualify for darwinism.

[@PixlPlayer]

Rk0788 k lol why would anyone get fined for not having healthcare if everyone was given healthcare by default

[@bessermt]

If one more politician says it's too expensive, I want to ask them why Canada, England, New Zealand, Germany, France, ... can afford something we can't?

[@tiefensucht]

The difference is that these are democratic countries and america is more like russia.

[@rukianur8640]

Its the same psuedo-patriots who believe America is incompetent compared to every other developed nation and should pay more for worse results.

[@martijnschut4209]

Run Nur america is an incompetent, third world shithole.

[@Dliciousization]

Expense apparently wasn't, and still isn't an issue when it comes to tax cuts for inordinately wealthy people and corporations or wars.

[@KarlMySuitcase]

Just ask how are you going to pay for it when they want to go to war again.

[@tagekarlsson6796]

I love the fact that John Oliver can be both happy and angry while at the same time screaming at his audiences to inform them about serious problems in the world. I Love your format.

[@KassiDephinia]

As a child I would stay up late to clandestinely listen to the BBC world service to avoid the brainwashing of the cult I was raised in. I believe this is why as an adult I desperately need regular injections of Angry Shouty Sad British Man Show to present reality to me, in a way that makes my IPR-craving kid bits and also my rage-craving socially conscious adult bits share a KZbin meal together.

[@cambs0181]

A British thing.

[@antonioiniguez1615]

None of this is informative. It's bad political and economic knowledge.

[@zorohibiki]

"we like to have choice in health care" yeah that lady looked really happy choosing between a diabetic coma and a cardiac arrest

[@robertschooner1812]

I know you like choice! But this is Yankee Schooner would like to have a national Healthcare System for all Americans!

[@carpediem5232]

@JamieLan2011 Bernie makes the same points constantly just minus the comedy.

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

If only that lady didn't make 40+ years of bad decisions to get these. DIET and EXERCISE are the best medicine.

[@george_winters7849]

@@Mister_Phafanapolis Diet and exercise! Guess no 1st world country needs a healthcare system anymore, thanks buddy you just solved the problem

[@mathunit1]

@@Mister_Phafanapolis Fuck off.

[@parkingturtle]

I wonder how many of the people who say that "Americans love choice" do not support choice when it comes to abortion...

[@theirishempire4952]

Abortion is an seperate issue. In Ireland it almost started a second civil war

[@firelifeblizzard8782]

Amy Klobuchar actually said exactly that, whilst also trying to ban abortion. Soooo, you're right on the money

[@dara1633]

@@theirishempire4952 wtf are you on about, it didn't almost start a second civil war here. There was a referendum, it passed, that was it. Some old religious people complained, that was it. Where the fuck did you pull that civil war bollocks from?

[@ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh1885]

As if choosing not to want abortion isn’t a choice too, this is coming from a pro choice man in the US, you’re an idiot.

[@Dominian1]

you will notice that only the liberal side of that argument uses the words choice. Conservatives create an argumentative narration around the principle of the protection of life. So whoever accepts the premise that a developing infant has to be covered under the principle of the protection of life could never accept a choice about this from a second party, not even the parents. Just as you aren't allowed the "choice" to murder your child after birth, because it has rights then just for being a human and infant-citizen, you aren't allowed to abort under this argument. The compromise is a result of chosing some arbitrary date at which it becomes not okay to abort. Personally I'd favor a model that allows abortion on demands up to the last trimester, but would involve a mandatory interview by a psychologist/psychiatrist. I would fund these people and then ask them what the root causes for abortions are. Then we can start a discussion on how to effectively do somehting about it. Because being pro choice doesn't mean I'm never thinking of all the unborn ones, especially in contrast to having so many elderly and foreign people around. However you slice it, it remains favorable not to kill people as it remains favorable to give people freedom of choice.

[@deepvybes]

"We all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free market capitalism for the poor." - Martin Luther King Jr. | Democratic Socialist

[@thegreatkingofevilganondor1500]

Are you really hating on Martin Luther King Jr? That’s like... hating a newborn. That’s just weird

[@starmorpheus]

@@thegreatkingofevilganondor1500 Uh no, he's quoting MLK to show that the rich that hate socialism, benifit from it

[@Culky]

It's funny how socialism is acceptable when banks need a massive, taxpayer-funded bailout.

[@frankd2301]

That is so well put and so true. See TARP for example

[@Saint2K13]

@@thegreatkingofevilganondor1500 Do you understand the quote?

[@KlausValk]

As a Nordic citizen, it is incredible to see how much private medicine and healthcare costs and how damaging it is to a society, because many low income families simply can not afford insurance or healthcare or have to opt out of certain parts.

[@isabelc2131]

And yet they have children knowing perfectly well in advance that they can't get them proper insurance.

[@cookiedoe6068]

I’ll gladly deal with longer wait times if it means that little girl gets the eye surgery she needs. There’s an alarming lack of compassion in this country

[@Blaquer17]

They want the right to "choose!" They wan to choose who gets "their" hard earned dollars for healthcare (or whatever). With the GoFundMe system, they can choose to help whichever of those who can't help themselves they want to, and they don't have to "pay" for the person whose skin color, sexual orientation, health status, immigration status is unpalatable.

[@cookiedoe6068]

Jason Paul YES. I couldn’t agree more! Its really sad and disgusting.

[@mathunit1]

@Tom Guadalupe No compassion for your dumbass, that's for sure.

[@GonzoT38]

@@Blaquer17 Bingo, and that's my biggest objection to American charity. The cherry picking and virtue signaling ignores and thus kills those not favored by the monied. Having the service nationalized removes this social perversion of our inter-hating ethnocentric society. Championing for a system that relies on charity for healthcare deserved to be burned to the ground and kick employment from under the feet of those who pay their bills on the back of the misery of others.

[@emmacat3202]

Too many people have an "I've got mine and fuck you" attitude.

[@ro2202]

"Having a choice" isn't a good thing when the "choice" is Go Bankrupt or Die.

[@eleSDSU]

Yup, our system sucks. I say our since we Chileans have the same insurance scam here, thanks USA for all your "gifts".

[@joshuacox534]

you're right. it's not a choice, it's an ultimatum

[@lionkid5841]

a choice where one option is death is not a choice, it’s an ultimatum

[@derekross7979]

Hey American freedom!! Pissed myself writing this 🙃 👌

[@sophiedash4026]

My mother actually told me I would die before she went into debt...

[@vincentx2850]

The illusion of choice is basically the heart of late capitalism

[@bisamkiez]

this!

[@Predestinated1]

medicare for all is communism. Look at communist countries like Venezuela and China.

[@KaiserFredVIII]

@@Predestinated1 "Communism is when the government does things. The more things government does, the communister it is" - Karl Marx while dunking on a liberal, apparently.

[@PlaneBoy2520]

Pre destinated yeah we shouldn’t have the government pay for anything, let’s just get rid of taxes and have the companies run the emergency services and Congress. Screw the government 😡

[@JvpiterJvzz]

@@Predestinated1 VeNeZuAlA & cHiNa

[@Onlera]

Imagine not having to worry about health benefits when looking for a new job. That would be so cool

[@flerrrrrrrrrrrp2997]

oh honey so many of us have no idea what that even means cuz we don't have to... american exceptionalism is a myth

[@HowToChangeName]

I cant even think anything else between selling my house or get my appendicitis treated

[@shannonb3499]

I took a considerable cut in pay when switching jobs recently, because my new employer's health plan is that much better than the alternative

[@MelGibsonFan]

I have free healthcare as a vet... ngl its a massive relief.

[@antonioiniguez1615]

I couldnt imagine being this entitled.

[@blairelliott]

"Sara Palin's fourth attempt at cloning." I couldn't handle that burn.

[@cassieearle9196]

it was really good.

[@rawzuccsauce420]

Blair Elliott I fucking lost it when he said that.

[@kiriappeee]

Drinking water while watching that part was a mistake 😂

[@harshvaghela47]

Bye the way, Who's thay Fox news host? I've never seen her in other news videos.

[@Stonedead1991]

@@harshvaghela47 Kennedy? I think that's her name. Was a MTV VJ in the 90's.

[@kimjongfun5427]

"Americans love choices." Yea, right. Like last year FDA approved a gene therapy medication for SMA (Spinal muscular atrophy) called Zolgensma which is being priced for $2.1 MILLION per treatment. So if you are an American, and you or your loved one unfortunately has SMA, the choices for you is either paying $2,100,000 for the treatment or death. To me that's more like a hostage situation.

[@viloub3]

Here in Portugal a kid had that condition and since the therapy wasn't yet approved by our "FDA" the parents started a crowdfunding to get enough money to get it done in the US. It got so much media attention that the parents got their two million they needed, the therapy was approved, they did the therapy here in Portugal free of charge and used the money to create an institution that helps kids with the condition. I think two other kids also got the therapy since then. I cannot fathom how people can be against universal coverage.

[@shadowsonicsilver6]

It is a Hostage situation,

[@shadowsonicsilver6]

Eduardo Oliveira I can, it’s called Capitalism

[@Yanaschaf]

"Choice" being used when talking against M4A is a dog whistle someone uses to say: you deserve to die in a ditch, as long as I can take home some of that sweet insurance company money hahaha.

[@sogghartha]

It doesn't have to be anything so rare. Every year people die from being unable to pay for their insulin.

[@vickiignaszak5041]

Anyone who tries to argue about medicare for all eliminating choices has never had to choose whether or not to go to a doctor because they can't deal with the deductible, they've never had to choose whether to ration insulin because they haven't hit their yearly deductible, they've never been a person with a deadly allergy who goes without an EpiPen because epipens are expensive even with insurance. Getting to whine about "choices" when it comes to healthcare is a luxury that a lot of Americans can't afford to do.

[@Allahuma.sali.ala.muhammad.]

Wanna date?

[@melodye14]

Exactly. The conservative end of these arguments are always so privileged.

[@mistyford8668]

I haven't gone to my dermatologist in a while because I just can't afford the costs. It's not a life threatening condition, but I loved to get it checked. If I were to go back to my 3rd world country, I'd be able to make an appointment, see him same day and move forward from there with minimal costs.

[@Bozzemoggel]

Strange. In my country i can choose to go to any doctor or hospital i want. No extra costs. No waiting lines. If Americans truly want to have choices they fekkin need to choose change first. Goddamnit.

[@andreasmadsen882]

Sad that happens in America.

[@writerhannah]

As a Canadian, it is WILD to hear criticism from the United States about healthcare. Ya, I gotta wait in line sometimes but I have never needed to wait for my GoFundMe Campaign where I plead for my life to go viral! The number one comeback every Canadian has locked and loaded whenever Americans try to make fun of us is "Ouch, you really burned me there! Guess I better get this treated for free." It's basically part of our culture! Our healthcare is one of the things Canada is indisputably better at than the states. This is actually the first time in my 3 decades that I've ever heard anyone say otherwise, and of course it's coming from Fox News!

[@M60A3]

At least, here in canada, my mom wasn’t billed 21,891$ for just giving birth in hospital

[@Aurorasr91rs91]

Once I had to go to hospital in the states and the fact that they asked for insurance was so alien I literally had to be restrained. Like wtf you mean I need money? I need a doctor! It's supposed to be free! I had travel insurance but the very fact that I was asked for insurance BEFORE triage was insulting to the very concept of humanity.

[@granthurlburt4062]

I contribute about $100/yr to two US Americans I've never met for their life-threatening medical conditions. That's be no problem here in Canada.

[@johnjoyce]

As an American living in Japan, let me tell you, along with safety, healthcare is phenomenal and affordable.

[@hepthegreat4005]

Been considering moving there for that and several other reasons. Housing is cheaper there too.

[@sawamichelle]

Japan cured my mom's cancer in 7 years for free. 98% of Americans,w same cancer died here.

[@swiliepan6438]

@@wadebaldwin8032 I believe, if I read right, that the man says he lives there. Are you arguing that you know more about the differences between 2 countries, than a man who has lived in both, and lives in one of them right now?

[@brittanywedd9320]

Lived in the UK. Was 1,000 times better than the US. There ARE issues with their healthcare system but it is still better than what we have here.

[@philllax1719]

Easy when everyone is offing themselves

[@lostbutfreesoul]

The biggest mind boggle, to me, is this: Americans would rather pay a for-profit company *more,* just so they can pat themselves on the back for paying the government *less.*

[@janetwilkinson1216]

Jinx Dragon Truth!

[@emily-hj2hh]

The word taxes just strikes fear into the hearts of millions, even if they seem okay with being taxed for military expenditure. But damn if it's for education, healthcare, roads... Which, when you cut taxes, you hike up the deficit, and then the rationale to cut social programs is opened for you. Americans pay corporate taxes, which seems fine to them. The insurance companies, big banks, etc, may drain us dry, but goddamn if we have to pay some more to the government so they can provide us with things we need.

[@SaMiChi]

It's cause Fox New and other lobbyist give off the illusion of choice is better than single payer. They aren't listening to reasoning, they're listening to whack job pundit and fear mongering corporate lead propaganda media. Truth is, the rich will lose money. Insurance companies make massive profits keeping them privatized. As long as they can keep making money, they will pit the poor against each other. Crabs in a bucket, fighting for scraps.

[@sunnydaze80]

it's a racism/classism thing. there's a lot of people that hate the idea of poor people or black abd brown people having access to services funded by taxpayers. there's this prevailing belief that only white and rich people pay taxes.

[@jalend9974]

Sounds like someone who’d rather have the government have control over their very life. I’d prefer to have control over my own life.

[@Sqweebo1]

American here in Denmark. Let me tell you I gladly pay my taxes. Not having to worry about healthcare is a huge burden off your shoulders in life. Why shouldn't the US do the same? We call ourselves the UNITED States of America,but how unified is it to let our citizens die from lack of healthcare?

[@CanalTremocos]

This is what shocks me the most. Even rats will stop and empathize if they see another rat hurting.

[@oldmandeadpool1064]

But didn’t Denmark just increase the amount of people private insurers can cover to offset costs and focus on the people that need the government healthcare

[@heydannypark]

Aren't we the richest country in the history of the world? Didn't President Dwight D. Eisenhower - a Republican - warn the people of this country, in his farewell address, about what kind of problems a permanent military industrial complex would create? To anyone still on the fence regarding a one payer system in the U.S. because of financial reasons, look up our yearly military budget. Ask yourself if we couldn't squeeze enough cash from the DoD to pay for the whole thing - while still maintaining the most advanced fighting force on the planet. And whether THAT is still even necessary is a whole 'nother conversation...(no). We can launch a missile perfectly down a chimney from miles and miles away in often unjust wars on the other side of the planet, but first-time parents have to beg for money on the internet to get fucking eye surgery for their little girl. They were trying to raise ten grand, right? And they got $610.00? THIS is America.

[@Mysteri0usChannel]

If you want to pay taxes, that's great, but taxing people who DON'T want to pay them is literally theft as it is taking away their money without their consent!

[@marar8045]

I’ve had this conversation many times with ppl who are scared of the big S word, since it’s been embedded in our brains to fear socialism.

[@banjopiggottwright1802]

I feel so fortunate to live in a country (Australia) that has a healthcare system that will assist homeless people when ill or injured.

[@jsebby2284]

So does the US

[@aroace7913]

@@jsebby2284 It will not but ok.

[@Magmakojote]

"The waiting lines would be longer" Oh so the solution is to make it too expensive for poor people to get help, so the rich dont have to wait. Great thinking there.

[@mr.thongsong8473]

Yes, it's after all the rich that're paying for the party.

[@twentyarms]

@@mr.thongsong8473 ...and it's exploiting the labor of the poor that made them rich in the first place.

[@mandlerparr1]

@@mr.thongsong8473 The rich don't pay for shit. Take away their employees and the rich don't have a damn thing.

[@mr.thongsong8473]

@@twentyarms Exploiting? Hahahah :'D You commies are ridiculous. You selling your labor is not you being exploited.

[@mr.thongsong8473]

@@mandlerparr1 Of course they do. If their business model needs other people then you're right. What's your point? That there isn't one guy developing, making, marketing, selling and servicing the Iphone and that means that they don't own their money?

[@andyway0]

Of course waiting lines are shorter, if millions of people don't even go because they can't afford it.

[@realajmarini]

And frankly, as a Canadian, I have no idea where these "wait times" are. I'm 51 and I have never experienced it.

[@jp6234]

Actually, studies indicate that waiting times are longer in the U.S. than in medicare countries.

[@andyway0]

Never been to the US Just going by what I've heard

[@Zero11_ss]

@@realajmarini My grandma ( in canada) needs a knee surgery and can't even walk since before December, they told her the earliest appointment she can get in in like 6 months. She's still waiting. Wait times do exist, maybe not as obvious for the regular doctor visits but for other stuff its definitely there. Healthcare for all is still a better system than for profit healthcare though imo

[@meganmcdonald1171]

Zero11 as stated in the video, knee surgery is not considered an emergency. It also depends on the surgeon availability. She can get corroborating reports that say it is better to move up her surgery as things have gotten worse. It depends too where you are in Canada.

[@LividImp]

There's an old adage about gambling that goes like this: "They're not building casinos because you're winning, they're building them because you're losing." Well, same thing goes the health insurance companies. When insurance companies construct giant office buildings, when they pay their executives, and when they bribe politicians, they're doing it with the money they skimmed off of your healthcare. They are only make money when you're losing healthcare.

[@trinelangohr6661]

You're not "losing healthcare". It's called "being lucky enough to stay healthy". Either you need the insurance to pay for your medical bills, then it pays. Or you don't need them to pay. In that case, congratulations - you're healthy. I've never heard a healthy person complain "Ooh, I paid all this money and now I'm not even sick!"

[@kevinconrad6156]

I did group travel for health insurance agents travel back in the 80's, sent one company, two movements of 800 people each to the Montreux Grand hotel in Switzerland at $550 a night, so 400 rooms for two weeks, $3M just for the hotel, include air, food, entertainment and all the planning and it was probably close to $10M. All from money spent to provide health care, this company did many other smaller but still expensive trips for it's sells force. We had a lot of insurance company business.

[@Sinleqeunnini]

Consider the people who have gotten sick in our system and fucked over by it. That includes almost all of us. Those of us not lucky enough to have niche patronage in our private system are often crushed. Why don't you go talk to them?

[@dokule441]

Trine Langohr you literally have to sign up for healthcare during open enrollment, without knowing if you would get sick during the following year. So yes you do lose a bunch of money even if you stay healthy (hence insurance). I had health insurance for 1.5 year, i was lucky enough to have my appendix removed during, and only cost me 2,600 compared to 28,000 without insurance

[@MrLadyRaRa]

Medicare for all is insurance and would still allow the arbitrary high prices but force everyone to pay them.

[@josha5769]

A wise man said "America is a third world country with a Gucci belt"

[@jsebby2284]

Sounds like a dumbass

[@duskeyowl2507]

and a diet coke.

[@pranavkondapalli9306]

@@jsebby2284 gucci belt and good infrastructure. The third world country still stands. [and yes, the first/third world means about the cold war and whose side you were on. but times change, and so does meaning]

[@jsebby2284]

@@pranavkondapalli9306 no

[@pranavkondapalli9306]

@@jsebby2284 why not

[@Bloodworia]

Every other country with healthcare: Does fine. US Politicians: THE WORLD WILL END IF NOBODY DIES The fact alone that people consider calling an ambulance because of cost is outright inhumane and honestly disgusting.

[@Steellmor]

Developed country* CIS countries already have healthcare like it's end of a world.

[@Liliputian07]

@Rk0788 k Freezer level IQ here

[@brunowhitehead8105]

@Rk0788 k Democrats want free healthcare, Republicand tried to repeal Obamacare. Did you even watch this video?

[@incognitonotsure909]

Lmao Obamacare is not needed. Some emphasis needs to be placed on consumer responsibility. A forced saving plan of 13%each month till it hits 200k would be a great way to prepare the average worker for future health expenses. America also has some of the worse congregation of large masses of people. There should be more emphasis in development of rust belt states so that people would actually go there to work. This will decrease the demand in states like California and New York while increasing demand in more of the rust belt states. At least from a non American viewpoint.

[@brunowhitehead8105]

@Ajax Aidy did you watch the video?or brush it off as liberal propaganda because it doesn't share your views?

[@Invisiblenotbroken]

Having our health care tied to our jobs is a visceral reminder that our lives hold no value if we cannot contribute economically

[@tyiffpeijc8702]

ding-ding-ding! You've cracked the code

[@gc4104]

Morgoth Bauglir that’s just called being fucking lazy everyone has to work and do something for a living

[@SapphireDragon357]

@@gc4104 So you're saying you prefer a world where everyone has to get a job or die to one where if someone wants to work, they can, and if they don't or can't, they don't have to.

[@jsbhmm8232]

@@SapphireDragon357 Yes.

[@SapphireDragon357]

@@jsbhmm8232 Congratulations! You're a sociopath!

[@Uviryth]

As an Austrian, when it comes to HealthCare, I consider the USA to be a Thirdworld country.

[@Uviryth]

@cnmmd qiuoo Take it from someone living in a country where it works. You have to put in the money. Ecosocial Economy, everyone has to chip in, whether he uses the services or not. The ones with money catch the ones without.

[@katecritt]

As an Australian, when it comes to healthcare, I also consider the USA to be a Third World country.

[@ToddHowar.d]

As an American, I consider my healthcare to be third world or worse

[@noodle1987able]

@cnmmd qiuoo what country is that? You're right it's not all good and it needs funding and good management but it works very well and saves a lot of lives in most places.

[@noodle1987able]

As a Briton who recently had a knee operation and was severely ill a few years ago my experience of the NHS has been outstanding, excellent staff, facilies and costs our country very little. I also had the misfortune of getting an infection in America. I spent a fortune to get a third rate service in a horrific clinic, no one else would touch me as my travel insurance didn't cover the USA (oversight on my part). It was a horrible nightmare and access was difficult to get, even though I had money. Oddly I have experienced healthcare in Cuba (on holiday years ago) it was basic and the facilies were run down but excellent. Also in a country with a chronic concrete shortage due to sanctions the buildings are rubbish! The NHS (UK) where I have lived most of my life. Germany, where I worked for several years. Systems Nd facilities were amazing but the system was complicated. Switzerland - spent one year and only visited the GP. Results were mixed but it was extremely expensive.

[@Gabowsk]

Fox News in a nutshell: Pick an unanimously undisputed subject and ask "What does that mean", then proceed to demonize that said subject.

[@akmal94ibrahim]

Americans would rather have the "freedom" to choose between treating their heart or their kidney than being forced to be able to treat both.

[@autistiumhydroxide3614]

Being able to treat it all, takes away your choice, which in turn makes you a communist.

[@stk_n_chill4965]

Stupid

[@simonsays5193]

@@autistiumhydroxide3614 That has got to be one of the stupidest fucking things I have ever heard anyone say in my entire life and I hope to god you were joking. But since this is the internet, I can't tell.

[@nicolletrampe29]

I know what choice do we have now? Which insurance company is gonna fuck us? Whether to go bankrupt or die cause you can't afford cancer treatment? I would rather choose the doctor I want (which M4A allows for cause everyone is gonna have it) than what name is on my insurance card. I'm a nurse and it sickens me when I have a patient come in to the hospital because they blood pressure was through the roof because they couldn't afford their medications. This needs to stop

[@PlaneBoy2520]

Autistium Hydroxide yeah fuck communism, the government pays for the police too, and that’s communist as fuck, we should get rid of them

[@belisariel]

My mom needs a specific inhaler for her lungs. My moms doctor has told her she needs it. My moms doctor prescribed it to her. My moms insurance told her she doesn’t qualify for the inhaler. Welcome to choice and Freedom in America.

[@ToddHowar.d]

Yep. I could build my own clinic with the amount of medication rejection letters I’ve gotten even with the same situation you described.

[@Mousicaddict]

I’m so sorry to hear that bullshit.

[@sanc6284]

This! It's so hard to explain this to "healthy" people who've never been in this situation or something similar.

[@johnnybigbones4955]

And that is legal is it? Man, I am glad I do not live in America.

[@justice8473]

There was a documentary about a decade ago where they took people to Mexico and bought those inhalers for about a dollar each.

[@christianpetersen163]

Premiums: GONE. Deductibles: GONE. Pre-existing conditions: GONE. Those annoying little pieces of lint that attach to your clothing in the washing machine and are impossible to remove except if you pick them all off one by one: GONE.

[@zenebean]

That is almost as relatable as being crippled by medical expenses

[@asj3419]

You should really get a sticky roller then.

[@chestersnap]

I was kind of on the fence until that last point

[@James-jy3lh]

this is a perfect world

[@Odinsday]

BERNIE TAKE MY ENERGY

[@kellyperaza5900]

There are so many groups out there fighting for universal healthcare in the US! We don't have to live like this. Keep calling and writing to all levels of government, and protect voting rights. This country could be amazing if it weren't crushed by greed. Healthcare is a human right, and we have to keep fighting for it! Fuck these insurance companies that prey on millions of Americans, this doesn't have to be normal!

[@antonioiniguez1615]

Healthcare is not a human right. It is a commodity.

[@schattentaenzerin]

Your comment is great and incredibly important. Keep fighting for a fair health care system. Laws can be changed. It's not impossible to fix this problem.

[@SkyP1e]

I'm so glad John Oliver is shining a light on this issue. Everyone should watch this video by the time November comes along.

[@KatarinaTVD]

More like by the time their primaries come along. Bernie and Warren are the only ones who support Medicare for All.

[@aryastark3148]

Not November, *now.* Register and vote for Bernie in the primaries. If Bernie is not the nominee, then it's too late by November.

[@caelidhg6261]

share it with everyone you know!!!!

[@HellaWins]

@@KatarinaTVD warren isn't for m4a. #OnlyBernie

[@roberthamilton9154]

Kate Warren has said multiple times she would implant a public option 3 years before m4a. Just enough time for the insurance company’s to dump everyone who requires healthcare to the public option, flood it, break it then remove all positive perception of m4a. If the public option happens the USA will never have a single payer system in our lives

[@ayellowpapercrown6750]

When Americans tell me they need to save up to go to the doctor, my heart kind of drops. I find that unacceptable for a first world country.

[@libertywatts7227]

a yellow paper crown I’m currently saving for dental surgery. It sucks. I’m in pain, but don’t have the money yet.

[@EgoIsFlawed]

The cost of insurance is crazy and it covers little. medicare for all would be horrible. but regulating healthcare for service, beds, one time use products, from er to pharmaceutical goods. This is the only real fix to the problem.

[@Beowulf627]

It's because in this country if there's a way to privatize something and extract money from everyone, it's been thought of already and the government exists to protect that income stream.

[@ayellowpapercrown6750]

John Leeper yeah that is also something I have been thinking about. Healthcare in the US is very overinflated. If I was paying out of pocket for the care I recieve here, it would be less than in the US. I understand that some Americans do not want universal healthcare for all for many reasons but I think they should at least do something to regulate the prices…

[@pipertipurts5211]

The USA is not a first world country. It is an oligarchy ran for profit for those same oligarchs. The main way they profit is war. Middle east war, war on drugs, war on terror, war on poverty. It's all the same.

[@rjsmith6698]

The whole choice issue is BS. I’m Canadian and can go to any doctor I want, and any clinic I want, in any province I want. I’m even covered for basic medical services while outside Canada. I had cancer a couple years ago, and my operation, 7 day hospital stay, drugs, and follow up visits and procedures all happened very quickly, and did not cost me a penny. And I’m cancer free now btw.

[@rickeydart3040]

You mean it didn't cost you a nickel.

[@Valentinathevamp]

rj smith 👈🏾🥳Congratulations. My dad is cancer free also but now my parents are in debt. We, their daughters, will not allow them to go under though.

[@danielleisaacs6237]

How are you gonna be like, "oh, theres no more choice with universal health care". Um? Now you wont bankrupt yourself or die? What are you talking about? You really gonna sacrifice millions of americans and die while you trying to figure out which plan to choose?

[@zombiasnow15]

GOD Bless

[@kennethhwang3425]

Danielle Isaacs I think that’s what these drug manufacturers and insurance companies bank on. These unscrupulous types see people as no more than spreadsheets.

[@marctaylor1142]

"But Sarah Palin's 4th attempt at cloning herself actualy has a point there" lmao. Nailed it.

[@leahelaine2289]

He just said what I was thinking 🤷‍♀️ 🤣🤣🤣

[@jprevatt]

Oh SUPER UBER BURNNNNNNNN 🤑🤑😆😆🤣😂🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@ForeverMe543]

At the age of 18, I started having seizures. No one could tell me why I was having the seizures but I was finally an adult and suddenly not. People will tell you easily that if you cannot afford the bill, you can't see the doctor. If you can't work, you can't get money. And, if you can see the doctor, you can't figure out what's wrong. I went through this cycle of bullshit for many years and I am still going through it with thousands of dollars of debt and people attacking me for money. Did you know that if you refuse a transport from an ambulance after someone calls 911 that you will be billed anyway? I found that out the hard way. Anyone who says we can't afford Medicare deserves to go through this because they don't know what it's like. YOU can afford it, I can't. That's the point. They are heartless and evil. Bernie's plan makes me cry with hope.

[@geraldheckathorn7371]

ForeverMe543 there are doctors that goon a sliding scale I’ve been to them

[@danlorett2184]

If you don't have a job then you'll qualify for medicare. Sounds like ignorance is your problem.

[@doobymclean]

Which ambulance company services your area?? I'm a paramedic, and I know my company only bills if we transport.

[@MandalaOfThe7]

Best of luck to you! #Sanders2020

[@kooljaymello]

@@danlorett2184 it is not so easy just to sign up for Medicare, you have to go through many hoops and hurdles to get in and even then sometimes it is just enough to keep you from dieing and not actually improving your health.

[@genericname6505]

It must be difficult to pull off if only 26 out of the 27 first-world countries could do it

[@projectlost8084]

@@jellohunter7981 yeah because fat people under the current system are clearly being incentivised to be healthier. Considering the obesity problem in the USA, it's not the health care system that is the problem. And God forbid the US get better food regulations. What a horrible future you speak of. Did you even watch the same video....or for that matter the 100s of other videos explaining and demonstrating how the US health care is awful and literally killing people who don't need to die.

[@satisfactioninajar7668]

@@jellohunter7981 just like you don't want your guns regulated because of how some crazies can't control themselves I bet. Or how you don't need the government to look into your taxes just cause some rich mf tend to do illegal shit right? I mean it's not like you live in a society where you trade your work value for food and services other people made right?

[@derekross7979]

@@jellohunter7981 If you want to lay back on the bases you're a kid and this doesn't apply to you. Than let me ask you. Why are you talking out you're ass. You want to talk shit yet hide behind a curtain. When you actually join the real world and your mother stops getting you're shit stains out for you. Maybe than you may speak. I know you're sad generation thinks because you have this awesome platform to hide behind and speak nonsense you have a point. Sadly its not the case.

[@luminatron]

@@jellohunter7981 lmao all that word-farting just to hide behind the curtain of "I'm a kid" What a pathetic fucking waste of oxygen you are.

[@luminatron]

@@jellohunter7981 But that's the thing, you're clearly obviously trolling, but then you fuck up at the very end and make the rest of us look bad Bitch, do you need a manual on trolling?

[@j.verdikto4739]

I can't believe you guys have to pay to call an ambulance. How cruel is that?

[@mj-np9sy]

People are literally calling Ubers to pick them up to go to the ER instead of ambulances nowadays. It's disgusting.

[@babbotfinklestein9513]

And its usually costs $15,000. And if u dont have insurance thats covering u gotta pay that 15k

[@shininggreentea]

One of my family members had a heart attack and he called his friend to make him drive him to the hospital-just because ambulance costs are ridiculous (even with good insurance)

[@simonsays5193]

@@mj-np9sy Apparently you still get billed for the ambulance ride anyways even if you go Uber. You know why? Cause we're the greatest country on earth.

[@jaggerman22]

My son had a bad seizure. We called 911 like you do. We were billed full price from the ambulance because it was “out of network”. I looked it up and there are no ambulance services that are “in network” and I live in one of the most populated cities in my state. If this is not extortion I don’t know what you would call it.

[@LovelyLexiex]

I am literally watching this from my free hospital bed where I have been for the past 3 days....pretty sure universal healthcare is a good thing.

[@corpsecoder_nw6746]

hope you've recovered and are well

[@iNanieke]

I'm from the Netherlands, and my health care costs are covered even outside of my country. But when I went to visit the US, I had to buy into a special health care plan for the duration of my visit, due to the ridiculously high costs over there. I follow US politics on a daily basis and I hope you guys vote for the person who will fight for you and get you health care.

[@stephen-gi9uz]

iNanieke It's maddening that nation of brothels and prostitutes have better healthcare than us. And we pay to defend that very Europe while our people die

[@Reige17]

@iNanieke - Thanks.

[@iNanieke]

@@stephen-gi9uz Unnecessary to go after our sex workers tho.. :')

[@jacquelinegoede3373]

stephen 9789 think you got a bit of a warped impression of European countries there. Last time I checked, the US had legalised prostitution as well

[@iNanieke]

@Ninja Crackpot That's not true at all! In fact I'm happy with my third hand, super convenient.

[@InsaneFire10YT]

"Giving you $500 to go to mexico to buy drugs" I literally cannot stop laughing

[@GreenLarsen]

laughter turning into tears... yep :/

[@benjaminwheeler9666]

That’s literally my insurance and it’s one of the best around here... now I’m worried.

[@freehorizons9491]

was it not paying the flight AND an extra 500? insane!

[@verde1193]

Son todos bienvenidos!!!, sobre todo con sus dolare$$$ :)

[@stclemmons1969]

I'm on a Mexican radio. I'm on a Mexican whoa radio.

[@Pedro-tm6ue]

"I wouldn't call an ambulance because I knew it would cost a lot". All arguments against change in the American health system are dead with that simple sentence.

[@RikardPeterson]

I've heard that before, but I still can't get over it. Calling an ambulance for someone in an emergency could destroy their life due to the associated costs. How can anyone with an ounce of empathy see that as a good thing? Denial, I guess, or a complete lack of empathy towards anyone outside their own bubble. I'm so glad I'm not an American.

[@heavyhemi2828]

@@RikardPeterson ... I should get a tattoo on my forehead saying DO NOT CALL AMBULANCE because that is a legit fear..

[@hmm3008]

Brother got sent to hospital from school in an ambulance. Parents had no choice or notice. Over 2000$ for that fancy ride.

[@johngalbicsek5567]

If you want it less as someones personal antidote and a more scientific approach to say the same thing- "Economists at the University of Kansas analyzed ambulances deployed in the more than 700 cities where UberX cars are available, and found that in the time after Uber entered a given city, there was at least a 7 percent decrease in rate of ambulance use." :(

[@helenchelmicka]

America's healthcare system is horrific. I ❤ NHS 👏👏👏 You guys deserve so much more in the US

[@tairneanaich]

Tbf the NHS deserves so much more support than it’s getting here too

[@stochasticwhistles]

I live in Finland and current US medical system looks horribly inhumane.

[@DucklynStark]

As someone who lives in the U.S, it is inhumane. I had wait for nearly ten years to be able to go to a doctor to make sure my diabetes is taken care of, because of the costs.

[@luizm-s9t]

Dude, I live in Brazil and, somehow, we have better healthcare. Like, HOW? How is that even possible?

[@DucklynStark]

@@luizm-s9t dude, every place that has universal healthcare sounds like heaven to me.

[@tomsmarkovs1946]

It is broken, but if they make there decisions based on emotion. . they will be screwed.

[@thomasalw]

Ask your politicians to impose sanctions on the US for humanitarian reasons

[@AgusSkywalker]

He should have mentioned that the "choice" argument was invented BY the insurance industry and doesn't have any basis in reality.

[@YurimoHikashi]

This 👆

[@MrInuhanyou123]

exactly. wendell potter said this well

[@jorgex9789]

I think it comes from the fact that in some universal systems you get assigned a doctor, hospital, etc based on were you live, kind of like the assigned school you get based on your address in the US.

[@LordKnightcon]

@@jorgex9789 See here for further reading: twitter.com/wendellpotter/status/1206623259698974724

[@therealjammit]

It's a non-starter. Could you imagine having a right to guns using the same argument that without choice we can't buy any gun we want?

[@SS-nx2xx]

Finally a late night host supporting Bernie's plan. John Oliver's heart is in the right place, and it's made of gold.

[@whss3198]

Melquiades Reborn #BERNIE2020!!!!!!!!!

[@50jakecs]

I think Jimmy Fallon supports Medicar for All also

[@geeeyeah]

Ditto! THANK U JOHN

[@emhu2594]

Man we have set the bar low if acting like a human being rather than a total sociopath is something to be praised.

[@Gloomdrake]

Em Hu Maybe, but here we are.

[@konozal1880]

I couldn’t imagine living in a country where healthcare wasn’t a birthright.

[@jsebby2284]

Healthcare is a birthright in the US.

[@davidalves31057]

@@jsebby2284 a fantasy.

[@jsebby2284]

@@davidalves31057 well no - its true

[@Minumer]

@@jsebby2284 Let's get you back to bed, Grandpa.

[@jsebby2284]

@@Minumer let's get you to try and make an actual point, dumbass

[@tennesseeheckler3014]

"To the privileged, equality feels like oppression."

[@Bigfoot985]

When you quote, give credit to the ppl that came up with the quote. Thanks

[@digitalpigeon4570]

“ I don’t want to work as hard as others, give me things I haven’t earned” - Victim Mentality

[@coreylineberry8557]

DIGITAL PIGEON Except insurance for all is near essential for Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

[@danh5368]

“I’m a self-righteous asshole who belittles other people for wanting functional healthcare because I was randomly born into better circumstances than most.” -DIGITAL PIGEON

[@datonkallandor8687]

@@digitalpigeon4570 Ah yes, the hard work of inheriting money and not having to pay taxes in the first place. So hard.

[@acbassil2]

He forgot to mention that healthcare gets cheaper because the affordability leads to increased preventative medicine. It's like never changing the oil in your car and then waiting for the engine to blow up before you do anything about it.

[@XBarajasX]

Sorry but isn't the other way around? If healthcare seems unaffordable, I'll take much more care of myself

[@brettfrommer7871]

Actually, it isn't like that at all. If you want to compare car maintenance with this program, let's do it. An honest comparison would involve nationalizing car insurance such that you pay more in taxes in order to use insurance to pay for oil changes. Why should people pay through insurance for routine maintenance rather than directly?

[@batkomahnoX100]

@@XBarajasX Nope, When the government runs the healthcare system it's in the best interest of that government to keep the citizens healthy, so it invests a lot of resources in making sure citizens don't get sick and drain the resources.That's why Scandinavian countries are so good at promoting healthy life style

[@brettfrommer7871]

@@bv2745 this isn't a cancer care program. it's a govt takeover of reimbursement, meaning drastically increasing the power and reach of the govt in between you getting care from your doctor. This is for all healthcare needs, not just cancer.

[@uku5840]

While preventative care is very important and cheaper in a lot of cases, on an aggregate it's the more expensive option. You are paying not only for avoiding future emergency care but also the improved health of the population. It's a worthwhile cost but not a cheaper one.

[@luvslagos]

The “choice” argument is so moot. Oliver is correct, there truly is no real choice. I pay $8,500 a year for my employer provided health insurance. There is one provider-Blue Cross. It does not include vision or dental. Totally crap plan I pay thousands for (and still have huge co-pays).

[@SqeakyToy]

It's a myth that Americans love their for-profit private health insurance. It's way too expensive and doesn't pay.

[@50jakecs]

@Medroff troll

[@rhondah1587]

Getting healthcare through an employer gives no one choice except the employer who is going to give you the least costly plan and then charge you for a portion of the premiums on a plan you had no say in choosing. Then with the plan's network, you again have no choice of doctor or hospital unless you are willing to pay huge bills for out of network care which negates you having a healthcare plan at all. The co-pays keep going up and the amount the corporate insurers pay keeps going down while they increase your premiums. I was so happy to reach age 65 and able to enroll in Medicare and my services have been great and far less costly to me. I would be thrilled if all my fellow Americans had the real choice of choosing a non-employer plan such as Medicare. Once you try it, you won't want to ever go back.

[@MastermindHen]

@Medroff gays don't like private health insurance either, dude. leave us out of it

[@yaboyjay7202]

Everything Buttigieg says is lobbyist PR speech at its finest. When he says "you choose" what he's actually saying is "your options are not decided by you, but billion dollar companies, whose only interest is not your health, but their bottom line".

[@awwyiss3955]

Being opposed to people getting free or affordable health care is one of the most vile things I can think of, and that's saying a lot considering what vile crap people are capable of.

[@angelicfurry301]

That’s because a lot of Americans are selfish. They all have the hurray for me fuck you attitude

[@noobguitarguy]

I love when Americans make the "wait times" comment. Proud Canadian here, and I sure don't mind waiting an hour or two and not having to pay a thing.

[@MiraVioIet]

I HATE when people say that. My insurance company made me wait 4 years to get a spinal x-ray that I desperately needed (they're over 1000$ out of pocket) and now since it's too late to do much about my condition I may need spinal surgery that has an 80% failure rate. The reason a lot of Americans believe these things is because Insurance and Pharma companies pour insane amounts of money into propaganda so they can keep profiting off of this. Trust me when I say there are a ton of us who want to burn this system to the ground.

[@karlbassett8485]

Yep, the NHS prioritise treatment on medical need, not money. Have a bit of a pain in your hip? yeah, you might have to wait months to get treated. Arrive in A+E with a pain in your chest and difficulty breathing? You'll have doctors stuffing tubes and ECG sensors in you before they've had a chance to take your address.

[@--enyo--]

Waiting as opposed to, what, not being able to get the appointment or procedure at all? It seems a weird complaint to make.

[@Seif-Music-Videos]

@@MiraVioIet I am really happy to hear about your revolt, and sorry of course to know about your story. Wish you and wish all the Americans stranded in a profit-hungry system the best,

[@bcosta2475]

I read a Canadian comment: A candidate for back surgery was complaining that the pain has become unbearable. The results of a questionnaire determined that this person was not suicidal or depressed, so patient could wait for original surgery date. He ended up coming to the states. Beurucrats determining my healthcare needs. No Thank You!

[@joelrothman385]

Total medical costs in Australia with Medicare for all: 9% of GDP Total medical costs in the US without Medicare for all: 18% of GDP

[@bcosta2475]

Here Bernie's Number = $3.4 Trillion Annually. USA Total Budget = $4.4 Trillion. 1m left for the rest of our programs... just won't cut it. In the US= 155m tax returns filed 2019. If we take the 'progressive tax' and the top 1% will pay $2.27m in additional taxes. I don't know how the tax code is written Down Under, but here in US there are a lot of loop holes and tax shelters that the rich can take advantage of. Here we have undocumented immigrants. They are entitled. How dont know how many. But let's say its 10% . That's 10m more than your entire population. So if the rich have the tax breaks. They undocumented don't pay. Who's left? The working class. Also, leave healthcare in the Govt hands? No way! They already destroyed our Social Security. My Golden Years aren't going to be so "Golden". At least let me have healthcare.

[@MatthewParslow]

4,400,000,000,000 - 3,400,000,000,000 = 1,000,000 Nice maths.

[@bcosta2475]

@@MatthewParslow okay Matthew, Give me the Knucklehead Award. 1T. One Trillion US Dollars.

[@amolkhobaragade]

@@bcosta2475 You do realize that Bernie wants to close down the loopholes.

[@bcosta2475]

@@amolkhobaragade oh absolutely! I have posted that I strongly believe that their needs to be a reform. However, 2 things I just can't get my head around. 1- reasonable cost is vs Cost Today. No reason why monthly supply of insulin is $1000 when it costs $5.OR My hospital gets $12k for 3 hours stay when my Dr received $1700 AND Hospital has the nerve to send me a bill for $800. Come on now! 2- The US total budget being $4.4T and MFA costing $3.4T annually. Do the math and the progressive tax doesn't add up.🤔

[@GameOfDepth]

My “freedom” would be greater if my wife was not beholden to her employer to keep me alive.

[@adrianobattazza8728]

Exactly! This is a slavery analogue situation, and millions of Americans are clueless to this fact.

[@Faisaldegrt]

This "Freedom" is exactly why I'm vehemently in opposition of Trump and Buttigieg.

[@NittanyTiger1]

There's a lot of illusion of freedom in America. Some people need to realize that government programs and regulations can actually increase personal choice and freedom by denying a more powerful entity the ability to restrict or eliminate it.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

That's a detail that a lot of people forget. This is also a significant drag on the economy as people that want to start small businesses have to consider their access to health care during the early stages of the start up process. My suspicion is that the main reason that corporations hate medicare for all is that it would make it easier for people to start businesses and to change jobs.

[@9doggie12]

So you’d rather she be beholden to president trump?

[@vonakenyon7981]

Katie Porter spelled out exactly how Medicare for all would cost so much less and allow doctors the freedom to spend more time with patients..Sounds good to me and I already have medicare.

[@rm0986]

So what I learned is Mexico is already receiving 'medical refugees' from the US. That is such glorious irony, I love it

[@cheeto.burrito]

As a US citizen, I'm tempted to flee to Mexico for better prospects

[@adnkd2184]

Michaels amazing videos everyone else other than 23 fucking million people... ignoring that everyone else isn’t “gucci” look at what you just said ffs

[@SomethingSeemsOff]

My dad is a doctor and a Republican conservative. That being said, he has started supporting universal health care coverage after time and time again having to hear his patients tell him that they won't be able to buy the drugs they need because they can't afford the co-pays. My dad can be an asshole but he gets beyond pissed at health care insurance companies when he finds out they won;t even cover the generic form of certain drugs. Oh and don't even get him started on hospital costs. He usually only sees middle-class and up patients so they can usually "afford" the costs, but he has started seeing patients with no insurance for $15 cash because of how pissed he's gotten at the health insurance system here in America. And like John Oliver mentioned, the only people coming to the United States from other countries are rich people. This just makes me sad.

[@spacejaga]

Careful there, don't make your dad lose his license... This talk of seeing people without insurance is taking business from huge corporations and those don't like losing business....

[@ACertainGuy0]

I may not agree with your father's political stances, but even as a Progressive I 100% respect what he is doing for the patients that cant afford healthcare. My respect goes out to him.

[@wtbryson]

Your dad's a hero

[@drunkensailor112]

At least your dad has a heart unlike the corporations raping all these people

[@23Skiddsy]

I've taken biologic meds that retail at 5k a month. It's ridiculous.

[@spiltichor1192]

As a New Zealand citizen, I can confidently state that our free public healthcare system is fucking awesome. I have had surgeries that would have otherwise cost tens of thousands of dollars, and never had to pay a cent. For me, coming here and watching John Oliver is basically like an opportunity to laugh at how truly fucked America really is.

[@plac1197]

Saying you never paid a cent isn't actually true; unless you don't pay taxes. In Canada we pay a hefty amount of taxes which enable us to fund our healthcare system (a system which is pretty slow for anything that isn't a routine visit or life threatening). My old man waited 4 years to get his hip replaced. 3 years of which were spent in crippling agony... but it wasn't life threatening so they made him wait. My mother who has MS has to wait for months every time she has to see her specialist... which means she normally waits even longer for a new prescription when her doc recommends one. Sure we have free* (paid for from higher taxes) healthcare... but unless you are in for a routine checkup or are literally dying... you'll be waiting an abhorrently long time to see a doctor.

[@adestructivemind3602]

It differs from province to province. Here in Alberta we dont pay as much taxes as everybody else, and tbh I've never really had any bad experiences, or has known anybody who went through long waits like you've stated. It is truly sad and unacceptable what's happening to your loved ones, and im really sorry for that.

[@danski1961]

I hope u donate to st john ambulance bcus they need it, it's not all free here

[@minimantaray]

i mean people are dying every day, not really something to laugh at imo

[@ricochet4674]

Yea... I really want Bernie to win. I don’t want to go in debt. I don’t want to have to watch anyone die from something that could be treated if only they had more money. “Oh I’m sorry sir but you’re five thousand dollars short... You have a month to live.”

[@annachase6036]

When my appendix had burst, I went to the ER, got emergency surgery two hours later and went home after a week. My bill never arrived because you don't get a bill for that where I'm from

[@Krackerlack]

I think the problem is this: Medicine manufacturer: a vial of insulin costs us 2$ to make, so we'll sell it for 300$ Most countries: are you crazy? USA: yea ok now I know it's not that simple, but still, the prices in the US are absolutely batshit crazy

[@toolongforyoutoread6]

It actually is that simple.

[@Fuckjaredmilton]

Love this comment, but you've got it. You literally have the whole debacle right there

[@Consoneer]

They sell the drugs too expensive because the insurance going to cover for it anyway. Both sides are greedy and both sides are destined to fail.

[@TheWeeklyFangirl]

Yeah no, you got it in one, my dude. It's greed, through and through, and it's killing people.

[@MikeyJJJ]

That's not accurate. More accurately, it is USA: yea ok. now how much "political contribution" you gonna give me?

[@atticusv668]

"I lived in England; nationalised healthcare is a disaster." Hi, I have lived in England for my whole life; its one of the best things the British government ever did and its saved my life as well as millions. America, PLEASE nationalise your healthcare!

[@josephineparsons78]

he literally used the argument that rich people can afford good health care, yes that they can and they are going to be able to afford that anywhere they go thats not a point at all.

[@josephineparsons78]

@Lloyd Zed but please at least do something for the love of god. you were given a bit of a hand with obama care at least that was a start even if it was flawed but you actively tanked it and didnt put anything else in place. PLEASE DON'T DO IT AGAIN

[@arditkonjuhi4932]

Lloyd Zed ofc the NHS had problems our government doesn't fund it properly and worry about preserving it. If hospitals could manage the fund and help other areas such as mental health to help replace stain on it As well as some.other plans charging people for drunk related accidents ITS NOT PERFECT BUT ITS BLOODY AMAZING

[@josephineparsons78]

@Lloyd Zed oh no its in noway flawless nothing is but thats not for lack of trying thats for active govermental negligence

[@bibicute942000]

@@josephineparsons78 NHS is the greatest thing come out of the UK and I absolutely adore it. Yes you have waiting time issue and doctors overwork as heck but being poor doesn't prevent you from having the care you need.

[@trinelangohr6661]

"I've lived in England...." - yeah, so have I. When got sick, I went to a doctor and paid nothing. When my friend had to have his appendix taken out, he also paid nothing. Now the British NHS is not perfect (hey, I'm from Germany and out health system is really a lot more efficient - no surprise, I suppose), but it's a million times better than nothing. Which is what many Americans have. It's painful to watch how many people don't get the care they need. On the other hand, many of them voted for it...

[@kevin_00001]

Had surgery, physiotherapy and meds this year. I visited the doctor and got a surgery appointment the next day. I paid nothing for the surgery, 25€ for the physiotherapy in total (20 sessions) and 5€ for all the meds. Pretty good.

[@Rupietta]

I'm a German doctor. The German system is not efficient. We loose a lot of money due to bureaucracy, high pharmaceutical prices, and overutilisation by patients and private healthcare providers. NHS is way more efficient, but it's underfunded.

[@PrimoStracciatella]

That's what US Americans want - but no raise in taxes!

[@Yanaschaf]

And ONLY Bernie Sanders, together with millions of people in the movement, can deliver M4A. Every (!) other candidate is trying to keep Sanders from winning. Every other major candidate is corrupted by corporate money (or is the the one who does the corrupting, in the case of billionaire candidates). Healthcare is a human right!

[@AmianteTarvoke]

Americans have a proud tradition of voting against their own interests.

[@davidleaman6801]

Fun Fact -- After Medicare came in in Canada, the doctor's started to make so much money that it became a problem. The Insurance companies are still operating in Canada. The doctors and the insurance companies spent millions to try to keep Canada from getting Universal Healthcare and they even brought reps from the AMA in the States to help.. Canada told them to go "Pound Sand". The country was right and we have enjoyed the benefits for over sixty years and the whole plan has NOT gone "tits up" at all.

[@Marco_Onyxheart]

It's interesting how the US is the only "developed" country that can't afford universal healthcare. Especially given how they _can_ afford their current system, which costs 2.5 times the OECD average per capita. Americans pay more taxes than many western European countries pay in taxes and private costs combined. America's private costs just double this taxation. But somehow, the US can't afford to actually be a developed country...

[@ezra55595]

Marco Meijer it’s because we spend it all on bombs.

[@sajanpatel4956]

Elwood Scott Essentially. The US’s massive military spending takes up a lot of money.

[@deanmoriarty6015]

Elwood Scott and walls that look like they belong in an elementary school playground

[@aidenwehmeyer1665]

more fake news, our taxes are not bad at all.

[@apollomars1678]

its even more fun, that you pay way more than 10x for health care in the US in taxes and trade traffics taxes (

[@armanavecilla103]

I've always loved the argument about choice. Choose between going into debt for the rest of your life or not getting medical care. Freedom of choice!

[@tradutor]

Choice of getting a legendary hospital bill or dying. Yup great choice indeed.

[@fishbone3333]

Merka!

[@ilikepeople1795]

The actual argument is you get 2 of the following: price, universality or quality. Really the ideal system is cash with a discount/ credit only but that's just not going to happen

[@ilikepeople1795]

@@fishbone3333 literally the best place in the entire world to live

[@fishbone3333]

@@ilikepeople1795 I have been to Tahiti, dude. Sorry. So wrong.

[@albinjohnsson2511]

A few things that's never mentioned when Americans discuss health care: 1) Health is in many ways a common good - a healthy population is cheaper for everyone, since it leads to increased productivity and decreased social costs. Also, if more sick people have access to treatment, this lowers the risk of contagious diseases spreading => fewer sick people => more societal gains. 2) Incentive structures: a health care system based on insurances creates skewed incentive structures brimming with waste. Doctors are incentivized to over-treat some patients and under-treat others, and over-charge insurance companies. Insurance companies are incentivized to under- or over-insure various people, and to beef up with an army of lawyers and administrators. There's huge amounts of asymmetrical information and inherent inefficiencies in the system. I believe these two points alone goes a long way to explain how the US can spend twice the amount of money on health care as my country (Sweden), while getting much worse results. Yes, the waiting times can be frustrating at times, but that's about it. I've never met a single European that would like to see their health care system abandoned in favor of the American system. Not a single one. People waiting slightly longer for minor things vs. people dying... yeah, really tough choice America.

[@zakariafadli4996]

BUT CHOICE

[@mandyinseattle]

Well said. Thank you.

[@Panda_J1]

is cheaper if people would take care of themselves. People use drugs to escape from reality and eat a lot of unhealthy food and dont like exercise.

[@alifmuhammadchicago]

Wøøt! The Swedes know what's up.

[@mandyinseattle]

@@Panda_J1 Oh, drop the judgmentalism. If we had more money in more people's pockets and less healthcare costs, we could afford to live better

[@ToreHansen]

Since im living in Norway, we laugh about US and how the joke of a health care works.

[@jsebby2284]

And literally nobody cares

[@ToreHansen]

@@jsebby2284 Seems like you care

[@andrewbols3334]

Same here in Denmark 😉

[@lampard4]

I too live in Scandinavia but laughing about the awful American health care system isn't funny at all. I just have the o utmost sympathy for the people

[@GIR177]

What's to laugh about? Is it how much we pay for deductibles or the tens of millions of people who are currently uninsured? Most of us want it changed because the pockets of the pharmaceutical and insurance companies are given priority over us. There's no punchline here, it's just sad.