Late Kick Live Ep 526: FSU’s ACC Exit | SEC vs Texas & OU | Lanning Is Kirby | EASports CFB25

Late Kick Live Ep 526 features Josh Pate discussing the biggest what-ifs in College Football this season. Could FSU be exiting the ACC sooner rather than later? What if the SEC has half a dozen teams with 10+ wins? Could USC’s defense improve significantly this year? What will Kryon Drones look like at Virginia Tech this fall? Next, we discuss the future of Dan Lanning at Oregon and how it may compare to Kirby Smart at UGA. EASports CFB 25 is nearing release and we discuss the impact the game will have this July. Josh also discusses a big rule change to the NCAA that will impact all teams. Bold Prediction season continues as we look at what you’re willing to put your money on this fall. Can Ohio State run it up on Michigan? Could Arkansas surprise and win 8 games? Will 3 teams from Texas emerge in the CFP? What if Riley Leonard is a Heisman finalist? Next we dive into unpopular CFB takes including thoughts on noon kickoffs and Be sure to let us know what you think, SUBSCRIBE to the channel, and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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[@heywardkey6012]

What if Clemson beats Georgia at the beginning of the year

[@GaymDesign]

I work in videogames. EA top teams are 100% influenced by marketing and how popular their brand is. Schools without a lot of name recognition among their target demographic are getting bumped down and vice versa. In general, really good teams have name recognition from winning a lot but there are definitely outliers like Colorado. Would love the option to customize a team and a correct the stats into something more realistic.

[@vichchamp]

How difficult is it to add crossplay for the dynasty mode? Wild they added cross play for other modes but that is the one everyone wanted

[@GoatedAtNFS]

@@vichchamplaziness

[@marine76a]

My uncle works at Playstation and says you're fibbing.

[@Britton_Thompson]

​​​​@@marine76aSony PlayStation: A. Has nothing to do with game design studios B. Is located in Japan, so your uncle must be Japanese

[@peytonmanningsforehead9907]

Tennessee is a popular brand…

[@spooner7637]

They all hate on lanning and Oregon but 97% of schools would replace their head coach with lanning right now

[@jansonroberts2616]

I’m not an Oregon fan but Lanning is a beast of a coach. No hate or love for Oregon either way but their coach is tremendous and if anyone can lead Oregon to the top, it’s Lanning.

[@akjdhajkdjhaghjkadh9804]

ehh

[@LightsOut5]

97% huh?

[@jameswilliamssr.6568]

Lies, can't win a game that has a meaning

[@spooner7637]

@@jameswilliamssr.6568 so what school do you root for?

[@baddudecornpop7328]

39:00 that graphic reminds me of just how good the Red River Shootout has been the past half decade, save for 2022. Some damn good games. I’ll be glad when the Cocktail Party gets back to that level.

[@wdsmkc]

I completely agree with your points regarding academics and tv markets. If I were the SEC, my goal would be to add fanbases who would throw their mothers in front of trains to get a win any given week. FSU, Clemson, & Virginia Tech all fit the bill there. Cowbells vs the tomahawk chop. Sandstorm vs Enter Sandman. Dueling Death Valleys. Add whoever you like in that 4th spot, no conference in America is touching the inventory the SEC would boast. The SEC’s superpower in an era of super conferences will be passion & regionality. CBS can shell out all the money in the world to air 3 hour images of completely empty stadiums when Rutgers travels to UCLA or Washington heads to Indiana. Meanwhile everyone from Moscow, Idaho to the Kremlin would be racing to their nearest streaming device to see the vast majority of SEC games week in and week out.

[@505premoto]

And that’s exactly why the SEC should jump at the chance to get UNC. They would have monster viewership numbers and fill stadiums. But it could cause problems when they become the most popular team in the conference. You should hear what the UNC fanbase thinks of their school.

[@tarheel7406]

@@505premoto The history and what professional reporters/analysts say is more important that what fans say. Far more delusional is what FSU fans think of their school.

[@LaneB92503]

How different are OU and Texas being looked at if their schedules are switched?

[@bradleyd6000]

Colorado in the top 20 for EA's College Football 24' is a JOKE!

[@ericroberts7485]

I have noticed as of lately that there’s a lot of resistance against the idea that Oregon can be a true elite power. There is a vibe that I notice not just with fans but some media folks.

[@bbd1920]

Just do it... LANK!❤

[@OnlyNikeFans]

Lanning has Oregon on the come up. Exciting to watch

[@joeballs6447]

As a diehard Nole, I disagree with whoever says that. Oregon is definitely becoming a power. Look at last year, their recruiting, the upcoming move to the B1G, Oregon is poised to do some things. Imagine a B1G with FSU, Oregon, OSU, USC, Michigan,... Holy shit, man.

[@1mgofepinephrine120]

Only because they haven’t done it yet.

[@jameswilliamssr.6568]

Oregon ain't winning a natty, just wake up to the facts

[@brianmcmeat1306]

All I know is that we love Dan in Eugene!

[@RyanUGA]

We sure miss him in Athens! Hoping for the best for Dan and company, of course unless they play the dawgs🤝

[@OnlyNikeFans]

@@RyanUGAim so happy oregon was smart enough to go after someone so young that had years with Kirby and Saban. Awesome move by Oregon

[@RyanUGA]

@@OnlyNikeFans it’ll pay off for yall eventually

[@williampalmer565]

I live right by Enid Oklahoma but I'm a Buckeye Fan 🤣

[@HB-tf5mv]

Where y’all got Lincoln Riley coaching next ??

[@russwilcox42]

Idaho

[@shoob7979]

If or when USC fans/university feel like L. Riley shouldn't be afforded at least 2 years to significantly correct the defense I'd accurately remind them of the whispers around running Harbaugh out of Michigan after the Josh Gattis experiment that obviously didn't work but they kept Jim at coach after futile results against OSU for him to only spank them for consecutively 3 years and multiple trips to the playoff and topped it off with a Natty!!! Had the Wolverines run him out of town then where would that program be today??? Not being the Champ heading into the '24/'25 season that's for damn sure!!!! Be careful what you ask for is all I'm saying

[@Shawn-gr8yj]

I'm still in shock michigan actually won the chip,even tho I saw it with my two eyes, I can't believe they won I doubt and I hope I never see it again SEC is the Alpha always has been and always will be!

[@jasonmellman6300]

It only took Conner Stallions to get JH and UM over the hump.

[@MarkyMark1221]

@@Shawn-gr8yjnepotism is such a strong thing. If we don’t get half our coaching staff from the Ravens (including the current Seahawks head coach) Harbaugh is fired before he beats OSU.

[@TheKingRiku]

Yeah... their horrible rankings have killed any hype I had for the game. They clearly are a bunch of nerds that know nothing of football.

[@33TimberWolf]

How awesome would it be if Florida St leaves the ACC for the Big Ten… and Notre Dame finds themselves alone without a conference?!? 😎

[@kalebpost20]

Notre Dame should at least have a scheduling agreement with the Big 10 (or 18 if FSU and Clemson join?)

[@MarkyMark1221]

Humbling that fanbase would make everything else about realignment worth it

[@GregsDisneysadventures]

FSU will be a huge addition to B1G

[@inzone88]

I dont get why FSU wouldnt join the SEC

[@mikef3896]

​@@kalebpost20Big10 is already at 18

[@thomascharles6690]

Bold prediction - ou vs Georgia SEC Championship

[@tabc123]

Am I missing something with lsu? They had an awful defense last year. All their production on offense got drafted.

[@richardoneal1055]

Sports is a zero-sum game. For every winner, there's a loser. Adding more "quality teams" to any conference will not assure a depth of quality teams in the future. Five years from now you're not going to enjoy watching Ohio State at 10-1 beat a 5-6 FSU.

[@austinglaze5415]

I see your point but heavyweight newcomers like FSU and Oregon won't be the losers in that scenario. A program like Iowa, Wisconsin, Nebraska, etc who already have long odds to win the conference now go from hoping they can put together 9 or 10 wins and making the B1GCG to hoping for 7.

[@None-dj8iy]

Sec having 7 teams hitting 9.5 wins... not happening!

[@NorthGeorgiaJosh]

I remember I was doing yard work. I stopped to get some Gatorade and rehydrate. Duh duh duh… duh duh duh. Oklahoma and Texas leaving for the SEC. I didn’t get anything done for a while 🤣🤣 I had to sit down a bit lol

[@ryanmccolloch14]

Same thing happened to me, power washing the house then went inside to grab a drink and then I had to finish the next day.

[@KATRTR]

Not accidental they did this rule change on unlimited coaches AFTER COACH NICK SABAN RETIRED. So many rules devised to stop the machine he had going. Yet again the rich get richer.

[@joeyhenriques7289]

As an Oregon fan, I think the reason why a lot of people have that mindset that Dan Lanning can’t go over the hump and never will is because Oregon itself has been a program that’s never been able to get over the hump for years now. Whether it’s Mario or Chip or even Mike Bellotti, Oregon had a history of riding high and then falling short at the most inopportune moments year after year. So people just want to automatically lump Lanning into that and say that he isn’t going to do anything at Oregon because nobody’s done anything at Oregon. (When I say that, I mean that no coach has even won a national championship at Oregon. Just clarifying since that’s the ceiling that most people judge coaches and teams on these days.) Now, as somebody who’s been paying attention to the moves that Dan’s been making towards the defense this offseason, I have a strong feeling that that’s no longer going to be the case. I won’t say it’ll be next year, but I wouldn’t at all be surprised if in the next couple of years, Oregon will finally have itself a ring and a shiny gold trophy thanks to Dan Lanning.

[@LJfootball14]

This is exactly right. Oregon’s past means nothing to what Lanning can do from year to year and I’ll never understand that logic from some. I think Lanning has got something going at Oregon no doubt and will be a team nobody is likely wanting to play in the playoffs. There’s about 5-6 teams like that this year that have some crazy talented rosters.

[@jansonroberts2616]

If anyone can, it’s Dan Lanning! Lanning’s a beast of a coach. Go Dawgs!

[@Britton_Thompson]

​​​@@LJfootball14Normally, that's a good rebuttal. However, college football isn't like most other things. Since 1936, only 32 schools out of 130+ have won national championships. And if you look at who's won them since integration in 1970, it's only been 20, and they've primarily come from the South. Once you remove Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Notre Dame, and Washington, the rest reside below the Mason Dixon line (I'm including USC in this since they're below the same parallel on the map). Obviously, it's not impossible to break in and join that club, but the history of the sport tells us the same schools keep winning it over and over and hoarding it from the rest. We haven't had a first time national champion in nearly 30 years- Florida, in 1996. Again, another Southern school. I can't really fault fans for saying some places will never win one. At this point, the best predictor of future national championships is past national championships.

[@RadicallyOptimistic]

Nah oregon will go 16-0 every year because the big 10 is so bad, aint that right SEC fans

[@jansonroberts2616]

@@RadicallyOptimistic More like 15-1. SEC winning it all most years.

[@Cavethug]

Not only will Reilly Leonard NOT be a Heisman finalist, ND won't be in the playoff, and will drop at least 4 games.

[@jaredslabaugh3181]

Keep that energy

[@dadwithavlog5268]

Dan Lanning has coached under Todd Graham (106-72) Mike Norvell (69-32) Nick Saban (GOAT) and Kirby Smart (GOAT apparent). He won national Titles at Alabama as an assistant and Georgia as DC. Both Saban and Kirby tried to hire Lanning away from Memphis and Mike Norvell but Kirby made the call first and Lanning went on to Georgia. Both Smart and Saban have called Lanning one of the best caches and recruiters in the country. Saban is said to have tabbed Lanning as his successor when he suddenly retired, but Lanning chose to stay at Oregon. ANYBODY that is doubting Lanning is just either a casual or jealous. Don’t use stupid circular arguments t make your case. Harbaugh hadn’t won a natty…until he did. Kirby took 6 years to get there. Ryan Day has lost 3 straight games to Michigan and has a losing record in the post season. Sark hasn’t won anything either, losing to the same Washington team Oregon lost to. Difference? Sark has been a HC at Washington, USC and now Texas the past 3 seasons, he is now in his 8th year as a HC. Instead of making circular, ignorant arguments and looking like clowns, just be grateful you get to watch this man become the best coach in CFB.

[@JH-sj4pf]

Well it doesn't help ou's image that they couldn't hang on to their god Lincoln Riley (that they now say oh he sucked we didn't want him anyway) and their future Heisman trophy winner QB. And more recent their ENTIRE STARTING O LINE LEFT.🤷‍♂️ why is there a gap? Really.

[@GoHawgs1987]

Best I can tell, OU played 2 teams in the regular season that finished in the top 30 of the 2023 recruiting rankings last season (Texas #3, TCU #21). Of the 2024 top 30, they play Tennessee (#14), Auburn (#10), Texas (#6), South Carolina (#22), Ole Miss (#21), Missouri (#20), Alabama (#2), and LSU (#7) this season. That's a different kind of brutal from a talent perspective.

[@markheffelfinger9677]

Lanning built a physical program, not an “SEC” program….there’s other programs that have played physical smash mouth football outside the SEC for a long time

[@johnlee7085]

The difference between Texas and Oklahoma is the coaching change. Texas has been ascending. Oklahoma stunk two years ago and the 10-3 record was against a relatively weaker schedule. If you’re considering the recruiting, the factor that doesn’t get included is how much Oklahoma lost. Texas didn’t lose as much.

[@johnlee7085]

Talk about the playoffs without recognizing that there are guaranteed spots and a maximum of 12 teams. Outside of the big 2 champs, there are 3 more guaranteed spots, a g5, and potentially ND (or any other independent).

[@Davidjacquat-wi7qz]

Don't know about Tennessee, but Colorado a top 20? Come on. Wholesale portal offensive lines will never work. Need chemistry

[@jamesmckenzie9529]

First of all, no way the SEC gets more than twice asany teams as the B1G. So, we know that there will be at least four non-SEC spots filled. That leaves eight left. If the SEC gets six spots, the B1G gets three total, then there are none left for anyone else, including Notre Dame. Highly unlikely. Most SEC gets are five total, regardless of what their records are

[@wavereb]

FSU and Clemson should be sec schools. Low academics - low fan integrity. They’ll fit right in along with LSU and Miss St!

[@bwl57]

If the big 2 each have 4 teams in that means they only missed out on 1 at large bid. I don't think they would throw a fit about that. I get what you're saying josh but let's be reasonable. Now if they each have 3 and each has a 10-2 team get left out for a 10-2 acc team..... then you might have a point. Throwing a fit over not getting a 5th team in would just make them look too petty. Public perception still matters.

[@johnlee7085]

Dan Lanning is kinda the opposite of Chris Kleiman. Incredible recruiting but no championships vs meh recruiting but championships. Kleiman has little returning players (none on the preseason list), but still expected to contend for a championship.

[@justingranberry1972]

Stooooopppppp it Kyle. You and Taylor took a vacation to the beach very recently. Or was renting only one room just to cut down on expenses. I bet that was it.😂😂❤❤😂😂

[@Dragon4Fire]

Josh, what's the over/under on the # of times you say the meaningless phrase "moving forward" ? 🤮 please delete that from your vocabulary

[@chain-wallet]

what has lanning won? -80% of his games in his first 2 years -a championship as a coordinator -both of his bowl games as head coach oregon will choke? why? in the past if anything, oregon has far outplayed their talent level...getting to 2 nattys with less blue-chip players than their opponents, acheiving far more success than they had any right to. winning one will take recruiting along with everything else, something theyve never had.

[@jamesvalentine7475]

I found hockey by playing hockey video games when I was 12. Learned the rules and players and everything. Video games are a door way.

[@Kushey4025]

As a Georgia fan id love to see Lanning prove everyone wrong about what he's able to do with Oregon.

[@svenkreuzberg2274]

Dan Lanning is a damn good HC but got smoked twice by Deboer. Maybe we start to compare this two first before we go to the actuall best HC in all NCAA. Kirby is lightyears above Dan Lanning coz he won big time twice. As long as Dan Lanning dont win a Natty you cant compare them coz its apples against oranges ... different levels ... and trust me, i dont like UGA !

[@zoam7881]

Losing by 3 is getting smoked?

[@jameswilliamssr.6568]

Overrated Oregon!!!

[@svenkreuzberg2274]

@@zoam7881 Washington and Oregon were on way different levels in recruiting. Oregon from a talent standpoint alone shoulda beat WSH.

[@zoam7881]

@svenkreuzberg2274 Overall talent at Oregon was better, but it's not like UW didn't have a ton. The key reason UW was able to beat Oregon was that their greatest strength was matched up against Oregon's weakest unit.

[@rjjumpman12]

I think the reason why everyone is so much more interested in Texas than Oklahoma is because of the UT fanbase. They have always been massive, loud, and obnoxious, but in between 2009 and last year they grew incredibly hungry. But now they have actual reason to hoot and holler all the day long about how UT is back and here to stay, and you have to listen to them based on results. Oklahoma fans are fewer in number and they don’t feel the need to talk as much because their record speaks for itself. Also OU is kinda in the position Oregon is in where everyone knows they can be a contender but unless they get to or win the natty it won’t create the same impact as the drastic improvement of UT.

[@edwinthorpe2663]

OU 48-16 the last 5 years and the donghorns are 40-22. Go back further and the gap gets wider

[@mikediles2216]

O-H. They better leave lanning alone

[@JPer811]

35:50 Purdue mentioned!!! Always the brunt of the joke

[@michaeltordoff7447]

Bold Prediction: The Gators beat Miami, UCF, and Florida state

[@thewinddb]

You talk about Lincoln Riley with a bad season and people saying he gets worse with each season that goes by... that is what was happening at Oklahoma. Yeah he can run an offense, but he doesn't have what it takes to run a program as a head coach.

[@Davidjacquat-wi7qz]

Theory I see is its rich uncle Phil jealously, others don't have as passionate of a fan base that don't express themselves financially in an era when its legal. Its cheaters who can't out spend now because its no loner under the table

[@Davidjacquat-wi7qz]

Wondered why ducks were recruiting novo/dc metro so hard. It is the weakness in recruiting by the surrounding schools

[@johnlee7085]

EA is entertainment and there aren’t many coaches that are prime time. Josh - you are even more than prime time - you’re anytime, Josh down the road isn’t. $0.02

[@cw5709]

Texas has a better roster ou has a patched together o line and a first year starter at Qb as well as a new OC. Ou won the game last year but Texas has an offense and defense that project better this year. It’s not about Texas being overhyped. That’s too easy a take Josh your better than that.

[@thelifeofdustinandallison]

Go Dawgs! Sic Em!

[@Davidjacquat-wi7qz]

If academics and media market were the criteria, Stanford would be in big 10

[@Davidjacquat-wi7qz]

Lanning won a national championship at Ga. Maybe it was all kirby. He can win there, but not at oregon?

[@benniewesley56]

Shout Out Winter Haven, Fl!! Boomer!

[@justincarter6286]

Go Dawgs!

[@jansonroberts2616]

There won’t be 6 SEC teams picked in the two year 12 team playoff. But it’s possible when the 14 team playoff comes into play.

[@RadicallyOptimistic]

Because they’ll be 5 Big 10. OSU, Oregon, Mich, PSU, and the future USC

[@jansonroberts2616]

@@RadicallyOptimisticRealistically, the B1G should get at least three of those into the 12 team playoff every year and then at least four of those teams once the 14 team playoff comes into play. If the B1G adds FSU and ND, that number should increase to five easily. USC isn’t likely included in that bunch without some major changes on defense but the others should definitely be in the conversation most years. 😬

[@bbd1920]

That statement is not based on any facts! Wishful thinking....😂😂😂

[@Shawn-gr8yj]

​@@RadicallyOptimistic5 big10 teams in hmm ok , no way in hell smh, no way big10 matches up w the sec . The big 10 may get 5 in a 24 team but not in a 12 or 14 team PLAYOFF

[@jansonroberts2616]

@@Shawn-gr8yj never said they would match up. If you look at the previous post, it was about the SEC getting 6 in for the 14 team playoff. 6 is more than 5 which is more than 4 which is more than 3 etc. etc.

[@AustinMinarich-ui1bd]

I was at Nebraska Vs Purdue my senior year of high school (2021) and I heard a dude behind me say “just run the same play again, that’s what I do in madden”. Me and my friend laughed our heads off… GBR 🌽🌽🌽

[@JPer811]

Boiler up

[@wtfcraps]

I miss the feeling I used to have in mid late December. When I would circle the bowl games I would MAKE time to watch. Now it seems I would rather work then watch what a shame that joyful bliss has turned

[@SWANNwillSUFFICE]

Dude Texas has a relatively easy schedule and OU might have the toughest in the conference. You swap their schedules and you’re looking at OU 10.5 UT 7.5.

[@tracejones5952]

I disagree a bit. Texas would get at least an 8.5 and Oklahoma would be a 9.5 No matter how you feel, Vegas believes Texas will be a better team than Oklahoma and that would still be reflected if their schedules were inversed.

[@tremoore61]

Nobody has a tougher schedule than Florida. I can't even remember a harder schedule.

[@spencerperkins-m7c]

Watching from woods cross, UT!

[@jamescheek2634]

I seen a game simulation of Tennessee in week 11 and it had Tennessee ranked #10.

[@johnlee7085]

LSU DL fail on top of being bad bad bad last year.

[@timmckinley5729]

Texas is mouthier than Oklahoma.

[@Dragon4Fire]

there is no "literal national championship"

[@psfsu]

What HCs entering year 3 are/have potential to be on the Hot Seat?

[@joelh.cooper5276]

Always watching from Prague 🇨🇿

[@haroldmiller8493]

I love Prague! One of the most beautiful cities on earth.

[@Black_Caucus]

1:07:25 Josh's reaction any time he has had to talk about Arkansas's downfall in recent years

[@patrickjames9586]

bro almost said "grand wizard" 🤣

[@jacobsutton9528]

Bold Prediction: Georgia, Ohio St, Clemson, winner of LSU/Ala. will make CFP. The other 8 teams will be teams that have never appeared in CFP before. (translation: Texas, OSU, FSU, Oregon, Michigan, Mich St, Washington, ND, TCU, and Cincinnati will all miss the playoff)

[@Howhaveyouben]

Get Mario and I can get my mom to explain taking a knee and clock management and we can save Miami millions of dollars. Mario used a timeout before the first snap of the game once...

[@tarheel7406]

a) Absent a miracle, FSU will either leave or be kicked as part of the litigation. The ACC is already considering UNC, CLEMSON & FSU as gone for planning purposes. b) Media value is a function of both the quantity and quality of viewers. c) It's my understanding that the ACC's GOR requires a unanimous vote to voluntarily release a member, so a settlement would require the same. d) The BIG12 is already set as a Tier 2 conference and the worst P4 (by far). If the ACC depletes out so heavily to drop to #4, the then #3 won't matter.

[@kylecheney347]

These SEC teams with high win totals can be brought back to earth a little if you instead predicted conference wins. For P4 teams, the CFP committee should remove wins from resume if they are home vs G5 and anything against FCS.

[@Kostick31]

Played NCAA Gamebreaker 2000 with my old man once when I was young. Never looked back and CFB has been my favorite sport since. Great point.

[@ADMitchellandXavierWorthy]

I dont see 8 wins on OU schedule

[@johnl5350]

Only because the games haven't been played.

[@exthereon6916]

In regards to audience. I think it does matter but only for international audiences. Which are obviously much lower in number than the US viewership. When we had college football on ESPN I would watch, but with the time difference late games were in the middle of the night for us. Your midday kick off would start around 6pm. So it depends if you are trying to grow an international audience….

[@russwilcox42]

Lincoln Riley is a joke

[@DedHedRy]

Let’s also remember UT lost 11 players to the NFL and we are talking multiple first round guys and guys at the most important positions like DT. Why does no one talk about that and the fact OU has the most returning on the defensive side in the SEC? We arent talking about returning a bad defense either. We have high round draft picks at every level for this next draft and every single player that will play on defense are NFL caliber players they just won’t be eligible for the draft yet. There is a lot more to be positive about rather than constantly talking about we have to replace everyone on the OL. We aren’t playing guys on the OL that haven’t been high production starters because we are. We aren’t talking about playing a bunch of freshmen without any experience. Every guys who will play on the line are highly rated and/or have been highly productive college players already. So sure we replace everyone on the line but we upgraded at a couple of places and we have talented guys who will be playing even if they haven’t started full time yet. Everyone who will be on the OL will have starts under them with a couple that have been 1st team all conference guys as well as all freshman teams nationally. There won’t be a young inexperienced guy who will start so it’s not nearly as bad of a situation going into the season that most people make it to be. Sure they haven’t played or started together but they all have played and some have started. We will be just fine especially with a top 3 OL coach who does nothing but put elite guys into the NFL that are also elite NFL players.

[@Hillcountryoperations]

Look no doubt OU has been better than Texas , but if we are talking about solely this upcoming year Texas has the by far better QB, even manning is better than Arnold let’s be real, and Texas has more proven talent coming back, as a Texas fan trust me we don’t like losing to any of our rivals but I would trade that loss for a big 12 now SEC ship and playoff spot any day of the week!

[@michaelrotters3813]

I have NCAA 99 which has 1998 National Champion Tennessee. I THINK Tennessee was number 11.

[@shoob7979]

The kinda thinking by those who use split screen comparison between Kirby and Richt as evidence of what will inevitably be is exactly what made me immediately stop putting any respect on Colin Cowherd's name for anything other than being entertaining cuz he can be that at times but Nostradamus he certainly IS NOT!!! He constantly uses that kinda math which says individuals aren't actually that but instead they are numbers on a spreadsheet!!!

[@swoesteban5570]

Playing higher caliber teams in the Big 10, versus the Pac 12, they will be more "playoff ready" at the end of the year.

[@DedHedRy]

Texas leads series but let’s look at who leads the series in the last 25 years.

[@DedHedRy]

We also have a higher blue chip ratio. So…

[@chrisbradford5893]

I just don't see Riley Leonard's passing rising to the level they need. Even before he got hurt, he had more rushing than passing TDs.

[@reamrkj1125]

As a Tennessee fan, knowing that we have finished in the tope 15 the last few seasons, and recruited about 15th, this bothers me. However, if this is about getting rankings right at the end of the season I get it. Tennessee has averaged about 15th in recruiting but unlike the big 12, acc or even parts of the big 10, this makes tennessee the 4th -6th best recruited team on their schedule in a given year. Colorado doesn't face that. If they recruited at the level Tennessee does, they would have one or two difficult games in their season. Like Clemson a couple years ago was the second highest ranked team in the ACC, and got splattered by a Tennessee team missing most of their starters including their starting QB. It would be silly on EA to power rank the teams in a way that does not create some parity amoung the conferences, because its a game. So it doesnt bother me. However the most suprising omission from that list was not Tennessee. It was Michigan the defending champs were not on the list either!

[@tannerjamesgaughf6852]

Usc fan here. Top 50 defense is ridiculous. I would do inappropriate things to Lynn if its a top 70 defense.

[@OnlyNikeFans]

Josh, your respect for teams (like Oregon) and your unbiased opinion is the reason I love your show. You and your team are awesome.

[@sheawickenden238]

FSU is a top 20 public university academically and is trending in the right direction

[@gliscribb8250]

Josh, when and how do you see the teams currently in BIG and SEC that bring little to no $/ eyes/ interest to conference becoming an issue?

[@spidey475]

You’re making me want to buy College Football ‘25. EA better be paying you marketing fees.

[@patricktrotter4750]

Yawn

[@ebenreven]

Whats up with Dan thinking he had the bama job. Killed my feeilngs towards him

[@sequoyahgirty5554]

warner oklahoma

[@manuelmendoza5238]

EA has a lot of longhorn and Colorado alum. Longhorns don't like being called UTjr

[@TheDrRJP]

We don't listen to Finebaum's bullshit!

[@jansonroberts2616]

Everyone listens. We just don’t take him serious.Hate him or love him, he’s one of best at what he’s paid to do. He blows up the internet every time he makes these comments. Podcasters are giddy with new content when he makes these crazy takes.

[@tomdubay2225]

I don't listen to a single word he says.

[@DJ7mph]

Thinking through your SEC playoff spot segment. If it's just a tier 1 and a tier 3 some of those tier 1 resumes won't be that strong if the rest of the conference is bad.

[@wizarddragon]

The reason people have Texas above Oklahoma is because of the schedules and an inexperienced Oline for Oklahoma.

[@jasonarreguin5315]

Do you guys think that Dan uses the fact that he worked for Kirby at Georgia as recruiting pitch at Oregon ? Has to be no hate tho

[@dawsonnance4407]

49:00 questioning play calling is the funniest part of it, especially to mess with friends 🤣🤣

[@firghteningtruth7173]

Uhh, I mean. OU pushed out Jeff Lebby and Dillon Gabriel. It isn't a bias. If they had kept both of those guys, I think they are predicted to go 9.5 to 10.5 wins. But vegas takes a new QB and a new OC seriously. 😂 I dunno. 😂 Edit: Oh, and also I forgot. Thry return 0 OL starters. Doesn't seem like a mystery or bias to me. 🤷‍♂️

[@johnl5350]

Pushed out? I don't think that is the same as getting a head coaching job in the SEC.

[@firghteningtruth7173]

@@johnl5350 they wanted him out. Ask any Ou fan. Even though he was putting up a top 5 offense, they blamed him for their struggles.

[@wendykozdras5471]

If you did get information or insight as to the future for the ACC teams I am glad it is you. Keep it up!

[@ThBlkIbs1925]

I love Lanning but Cristobal built that Oregon program. Lanning is doing great working to get them over the hump.