Late Night Side Pot Drama with a Drunk VIP!

[@Nikkithedog-t6b]

The whale isn't folding to a bigger bet on the turn, accidentally lost the min.

[@brianpotter2812]

Exactly. He might have folded to a larger sizing on the flop, but that's the risk you take when you bet small to entice a call. ANYBODY would probably call a backdoor nut flush draw with a 1/4 to 1/3 pot sized bet deep stacked like this.

[@St3.]

I'm very surprised the hero didn't get stacked considering the runout but it's not necessarily a good thing. In a hand like this, you should get stacked.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

I’d bet enough on the turn to set up a river jam and then I’m still jamming river because (as Bart says) a whale has tons of Ax combos.

[@michaelstephens9852]

He bet to small on the turn. So, it led to just a call.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

@@michaelstephens9852 a whale is never folding a nut flush draw on the turn even if hero bets pot. You’re not sizing up to get folds. You’re sizing up for value.

[@michaelstephens9852]

@JohnSmith-nx7zj you misunderstood what I said. I was replying to why he didn't get stacked.

[@Dexerion]

Whale lost all the value on the river. I think hero calls off.

[@danielmeuler2877]

This hand is Exactly how I end up going home Broke. I would have Jammed on the turn. The Villian would have snapped called and the River of Pain would have come. The hero is pretty lucky the villain is terrible at bet sizing. 500$ raise was leaving way too much value behind. 800$ would have been the smallest I would have raised if I was worried he would fold an Ace.

[@stevenundisclosed6091]

A lot of fish in Canada. I see why so many Canadians are outdoorsmen.

[@patrickjordan2233]

Forget "playing ranges" @ a home game @ 3:30 AM AND everybody drinking.... "Pure Exploitative" is the Sesame Street phrase of scenarios exactly like this...

[@patrick_kyker]

Trying to analyze a VIP and thinking that they wouldn't bet a dry side pot with air?

[@supersmoo7377]

I don’t think the caller realized any of his mistakes until he heard the inflection-changes in Bart’s voice.

[@michaelstephens9852]

He called it in. Probably bothered him by how he played it.

[@stevenfagaly3810]

Bart doesn't see this stuff every day.... Last night I played suited KT, flop K52, turn 8, river 3. Guy calls me all the way and reveals K3. I was ready to quit poker.

[@archie8271]

In your hypothetical situation, why would we need to turn AKh into a bluff in the straddle? It's 400 to call, seems pretty easy to value call there instead of a raise.

[@stevenfagaly3810]

Paused after the turn. I might shove here. River, paused. I think he's got the flush.

[@patrick_kyker]

With these multiway hands it would be nice to have a graphic showing the action.

[@jason.brewer.sodapop]

I haven’t seen the end, but I’m not gonna be surprised if it’s seven deuce of hearts or king queen of hearts

[@jason.brewer.sodapop]

I haven’t seen the end, but I’m not gonna be surprised if it’s seven deuce of hearts or king queen of hearts. I stand corrected king 6 of hearts

[@andywarhaul12]

This had Brad Marchand written all over it. Rat on the ice, rat on the felt.

[@tipsy09]

17:29 wow

[@ThePatriots010304]

Hero lost the bare minimum because he and the villain played the hand so poorly.

[@Nikkithedog-t6b]

yep

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

Tbf if the villain played the hand well he doesn’t even see the flop.

[@EricA-xd9fn]

(7:06) Bart Hanson 🚂🚂🚂 "can get on board"🚂🚂🚂

[@a_canal]

Fish bet sizings

[@supersmoo7377]

Personally in these type of loose home games I think as hero in the SB you can 3-bet to a size of 240-260. If you go 4x the last bet and add all of the dead money, that’s what you’d get. It could’ve even gotten the straddle to fold K6 suited preflop.

[@ThePatriots010304]

If villain is calling 210 then he's calling 240-260. He was never folding pre-flop.

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

You’re not sizing up with JJ to get hands like K6 to fold. You’re doing it for value.

[@supersmoo7377]

@@JohnSmith-nx7zj I agree with that.

[@supersmoo7377]

@@ThePatriots010304 What about raising it to 450? You have to find out the threshold of how big you can raise preflop and get worse hands to call you.

[@brianpotter2812]

This is why against whales I don't put these small bets out there to entice a call. They're going to call almost no matter what (I mean, runner runner hearts or a King would get you is what he's banking on, but you also said he was drunk). Gotta charge the call stations/whales that play loose.

[@themaestro3222]

I think AK off with King of Hearts would be a suicidal bluff attempt against a VIP like him and that too at these stakes. They never fold! For them Flush is a flush, a Straight is a straight no matter it’s nutted or not.

[@ligafftheindifferent3495]

A discussion on side pots, especially dry ones would be great. Anybody know where to find one?

[@pot_kivach160]

garage sales!

[@JohnSmith-og5th]

The callers' two mistakes in my opinion: 1. Not tracking the pot 2. Greed

[@pot_kivach160]

what would H supposed to play on turn?

[@gl00merz]

Sizing makes no sense, dude is playing above his understanding

[@josmc1]

Casino NS on a Fri or Sat night isn't too bad.

[@benjaminlopez9662]

What is the house rake?

[@supersmoo7377]

Preflop 3-bet size is too small.

[@whevans]

all the bets are too small...

[@joet7760]

Multiple blinds definitely change the game. I was on a lodge live stream a year and a half ago and it was a 5/10 game with mandatory 25 straddle. There was a $50 straddle probably half of the time. There was a hand where I had pocket threes on the cut off (acting first) but there was a $50 straddle, $100 straddle and a $200 straddle and the action was to me. I obviously folded with the entire table pretty much not acting yet with unknown hands and I would have flopped a set and turned a full house with two other people all in on the turn and it would’ve been about an $18,000 pot.

[@johncassol8855]

This one had to hurt

[@gregjohnson43]

Seems his flop bet did him in. Bet more on flop. Then way more on turn. Same result w this river but long term +EV

[@donaldshotts4429]

How do you bet more on the flop when drunks play Ace-anything? Then you combine alcohol & a side pot with the nut flush draw and nothing is getting him off the turn

[@JohnSmith-nx7zj]

I’m going almost pot on the turn vs a whale. They’re not folding Ax.

[@timmyp34]

It was GGAI playing 7 Deuce never loose😂

[@alexhowe1260]

What does vip mean? Very important person? Villain in position?

[@EllieBanks333]

It's just slang. Same as saying "whale". A player who can afford to lose big pots, always re-buys, plays loose. A player who is wealthy.

[@Lukas-qf2uh]

a fish. A very big fish. A whale with lots of money to blow

[@TTTHC]

Poker is a game of skill!

[@thaThRONe]

Remaining focused after a bad beats is a skill.

[@piggy4651]

WHAT DOES VIP MEAN????

[@derekstevens3119]

Very important person

[@88mphDrBrown]

It also means that someone is going to play poorly and not care about losing money. It's pretty much the same thing as "whale".

[@kingwild772]

what’s a vip mean in poker nvr heard tht term? is it similar to being a whale?

[@EllieBanks333]

Yes, it's just like whale.

[@kingwild772]

@@EllieBanks333 thanks

[@AdamPetty-p4c]

What is a VIP?

[@johnryal]

Very important person, In poker, usually someone having fun and losing money. As long as you don’t embarrass them, they’ll stay happy.

[@SavagePoker81]

This is why I hate fishing if I have a strong hands esp if I hit them on the turn pretty sure I will bet big or even shove all in coz I don’t want the villain to get lucky on the freaking river w/ his garbage hands!