Intake Manifold Explodes on the Dyno...

In Today's video we dyno tune a 2650 6th Gen ZL1 and have a serious part failure on the dyno.
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[@hatch450sx3]

I'm glad no one got hurt. That said this is exactly why ONLY shop personnel should EVER be in a dyno room.

[@villiersman951]

👍👍

[@commonsenseisdeadin2024]

When making that kind of power, only the tuner should be and the only one who NEEDS to be in the dyno room. But that's just an obvious risk to be in there, people die in far stuiper ways (pun intended).... And being killed is an over exaggeration but absolutely is a possibility, it never is not..... Think about that 😂

[@b00stedss63]

I’m 100% with you on not talking about other shops or peoples work…. Because it’s that bad out here in this industry it’s bullshit honestly

[@lanegeisewite1436]

Nah fuck that, they need to be called out so people don't have their work done there. That's what needs to happen. If your trash your trash

[@laytonturpin864]

It’s bad business to bad mouth your competitors.

[@larryroberts4984]

2000 hp bomb

[@ctravis595]

I agree. So common to see inept technicians trying to bash the last guy who worked on the car just to try to win a customer

[@lanegeisewite1436]

No they need to be called out so customers stop getting ripped off. If u suck u suck

[@joshuagarvey9362]

And that’s why he wears a helmet even on dyno testing.Great video thanks all.

[@YDBT4LIFE]

SHEESH, the Maryland accents will be highlighted on the show! but MAN that looked wild! Great video as always.

[@TwinTurboLsx]

As much as that intake costs, that should not happen.

[@TJPDmember]

no intake is gonna survive an explosion xD he said it himself "there's as much fuel in this charge pipe than most street car." xD It could be bullet proof but it would be twice the weight too.

[@TwinTurboLsx]

@@TJPDmember it burst under boost. The company even acknowledged the failure and made changes. The burst plate didn’t even fail. Which is a failure in itself if the intake burst first.

[@DriftNick]

@@TwinTurboLsx Steve Moris talked about burst plates in his video where a intake manifold was blown off, they don't stop everything, often they won't burst at all when something like this happens.

[@TwinTurboLsx]

@@DriftNick I’m simply referring to the lower boost at which it did pop. For a billet intake of that price it should hold more.

[@Jonny_trans]

The latest video of Brett lasalas car on the dyno you can see the plasma man intake bulge under 45-50psi. The bust panel should be on top of these intakes. Any pop would want to go up not back. Frankenstein needs to do some rework on that intake, the flexing under boost isn’t good It burped back through the intake. No denying that. the fireball. And blowing the lid off. Shit happens. Keep killing it 💪🏻

[@SamSheepDoq]

Someone pointed out on that video, it didn't bulge it was the ceiling light reflected off the intake as the car rose up on the dyno.

[@commonsenseisdeadin2024]

PSI is truly irrelevant, you see the size of that turbo! 2200HHP (I honestly don't know what hub dynos are considered, "brake horsepower" would make sense but that one's already taken for the.... Crank 😂 so hub hp) that intake was an oversight IMO, could very well have install error, one bolt or seal or manufacturer fail, only takes a little bit for the burst panel to not be the weak link! It's also a bust panel, not exactly a pressure relief..... Also what was the cause.... For the price of that manifold, it should definitely be replaced but when you're shoving 20lbs of shit in a 5 pound bag, shit is definitely going to happen!

[@Jonny_trans]

@@commonsenseisdeadin2024 he’s injecting methanol in the charge pipe. It backfired and blew the lid off simple as that. Boost is irrelevant in the scenario

[@commonsenseisdeadin2024]

​@@Jonny_transhe said "it wasn't a backfire" multiple times.

[@Jonny_trans]

@@commonsenseisdeadin2024 if there was no backfire it wouldn’t have blown up. You can literally see the fireball in the thumbnail. If Boost alone cause the failure there would be no fireball.

[@christophermaynard8375]

That's a monster!! That was wild can't believe everything was still good that's a wicked truck for sure!! Glad nobody got hurt!!

[@skipper6567]

same happened last year to a car at fl2k or tx 2k race. Blew manifold apart by stripping all 20 bolt threads and burst panel was fine.Manifold shot 100+in the air at end of 1/4. Car ran later with new intake.

[@Derkiesmefpipe]

The Viper

[@baby-sharkgto4902]

Man I’m glad I stumbled on to this channel, y’all are cool af. I definitely subbed and now I’m going to binge on your videos for a while. Hell yeah

[@deegan727]

5000.00 intake with a burst panel and the only thing on it that didn’t break was the burst panel. I say Frankenstein owes you an intake. I know “shit happens” and breaking parts is to be expected, but that overly priced fancy billet crap did exactly what it was designed to NOT do. I’ve seen 1000.00 cast Holley high rams do the same thing, but at least they’re a 1/5 of the price.

[@Akestler]

It seems like the burst panel should be on the top instead of the back

[@FreddyF249]

thinking the same thing

[@r7kelley553]

The burst panels are designed for a sudden burst. It wasn't from a backfire so it wouldn't happen either way.

[@mfree80286]

Just looking at the manifold and the damage I can see that it's a design flaw... the upper half is flexing outward (up) because it's not reinforced, and that's going to put a hell of a shear load on those side fasteners AND the bosses, which are milled recessed, thin, and aluminum in an area where the surface is going to get dinged up. It's full of stress risers, and every time that intake inflates it's cycling that little bit of material. Metal fatigue... one cracked, the next ones got extra force and cracked, and just zippered it's way around until it was free. It needs at the very minimum a spreader plate inside, or some manner of internal gusseting around the join so that the inflation that pulls in the sides can't actually move them around enough to fatigue the bosses in that way. It's late and I'm still not sure I'm explaining it coherently, but when the upper inflates and stretches up, the sides want to yank inwards. Stop the bulge or stop the yank, and you stop the cracks.

[@kentbeitel9966]

Man that was a violent explosion 💥 I’m happy everyone is okay. I bet That was scary 🔥☠️

[@chestercobblepot7839]

She’s gonna go, or she’s gonna blow!! (Blows up)

[@troubled81]

That is aluminum fatigue right there. Every time that manifold cycled into and out of boost it stressed the seat under the bolts. For infinite life you cannot go over 50% yield or that will happen. Same reason we do not run aluminum rockers forever.

[@lvhle04]

someone got educated, im proud of you! was searching for a comment just like this!!!

[@jasonwood6570]

No such thing as infinite life for stressed aluminum parts

[@Dou6.2]

Things nasty, glad everyone's ok

[@freedomfox8183]

I've sent an intake into orbit off of are 481x luckily it was on the track and all I did was damage the hood and intake first panels don't do what they're supposed to do unless it's a lot smaller or slower gradual failure at least on my car over the last 3 years

[@keywiththez]

Best decision I made was sending my car to you guys !

[@TurmyHD]

Do you mind sharing how much you spent on transport?

[@keywiththez]

@@TurmyHD 1500 due the car having a parachute

[@maxoutlawyer]

Whoa! Crazy awesome video. Glad y’all ok.

[@hausmanaaronw]

Holley now has an LMP signature series upper. Ribbed for her pleasure. 😂😂😂

[@BestKiteboardingOfficial]

The whole middle of that truck expands as the boost comes in

[@isaacrishel636]

I swear on the 2 runs before the lid blew off there was fire coming from the passenger side parting flange of the manifold like the under boost it was lifting

[@ldnwholesale8552]

I agree.

[@Spad68]

Not a chevy guy by any means and i honestly had no clue who you were till i watch you on alex pod cast and you gain allot of respect. Sub

[@user-df9rw6mz2x]

wow gnarly, burst plates are great as long as you know the right presser that you are dealing with , need to insure all other associated items attached that use the same system are like in rating, so it would seem the hat was defective or somones's math is off.

[@nathan584]

Watching it back in slow motion going frame by frame the throttle butterfly was closing then as soon as it shut it instantly detonated. Which has me scratching my head cuz that didn't just explode it just went off like a grenade. And it definitely didn't seem like a backfire it seems like the methanol injection decided to ignite in the manifold for some reason cuz there was flames coming out of the charge pipes

[@Beyond_Slots]

Okay #1 that intake sux bro! 1st just look at the closeness of the intake bolts to the lip of the intake "too damn close" #2 i'd get my money screw their intakes go with a Dart! #3 BE SAFE GUYS IK POWER IS NOT EASY TO MAKE BUT DO IT SAFELY TEAM! #4 LOVE THE CONTENT, good luck on track day bro i hope you win huge!

[@anthonycampbell1366]

On every pull you can see fuel venting from intake ,suprised camera man didn't notice

[@CarsonHoltt]

I did!! we actually tightened every bolt on the intake and put rtv on every seam before the last pull where it popped, still wasn’t enough

[@markharris1473]

Thats the 1st time in my life of racing I've ever seen an intake explode like that. I've seen nitrous blowups, blower explosions and turbo explosions, but never the intake itself blow off like that. Glad your engine was good but damn lol

[@sn95_mustang_garage]

The burst panel was intact....classic.

[@mfree80286]

The funniest thing about that is... if that intake upper were made of stamped sheet steel, it would last longer AND probably be lighter due to the type of forces involved versus the material properties.

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

This guy seems cool as hell. Someone like this is who I would want to tune my Coyote..

[@robinwendt5527]

Better call Steve Morris and get a solid intake

[@minibikemadman]

burst panel life. LOL now we need new holley top lids lol

[@MattyEngland]

Turbo failures can be like a hand grenade going off. I see a lot of KZbin videos with people standing dangerously close to cars being dyno'd

[@CarsonHoltt]

We were just talking about that topic before the pull where it popped!😬😳

[@MattyEngland]

​@@CarsonHolttYeah I've seen a few real nasty failures. The amount of energy in something rotating at over 200k rpm is insane, especially with some of the bigger turbos with large compressor wheels.

[@CarsonHoltt]

Exactly it’s insane just being in the room with something at that level, words or a video can’t even describe!

[@thegoat4232]

Dells car only 900hp??? I thought his whip was like 1200hp. Damn im surprised

[@keithjones7304]

Only 900? That’s ALOT 😂!!!

[@satanbuilds]

It was a different pulley I believe

[@LateModelPerformance]

Del’s is on a stock blower not a 2650, this car has a lot more left in it.

[@EddyKorgo]

One hell of a back fire. But still i think better blower then the engine

[@travisalbritton-il2hf]

Insane that was like a 💣 HS. At least motor wasnt hurt .

[@YouTube_Executive_01]

Who cant count all the F bombs ? Lol 😂

[@BorisRuhadze]

Facts bro! Your tunes/works speaks for itself, no need for defamation. Soon as I get this black-wing put back together it’s coming to you for the “LMP Sauce”! 😅

[@impuls60]

Looks to me that the intake isnt really FEM modelled correctly in a cad program. They should have made a burst seam inside the big panel so it tears instead of flying off like a shrapnel.

[@minibikemadman]

You guys are killing it...!! ydbt army 4 life.

[@spartanpatriot3163]

DANGER TO MANIFOLD remember the Buster.

[@cnknguyen]

$5000 intake manifold and it pulls the hardware, interesting that there isnt any flange interference fitment built into that design.

[@blackwidowpowersports6037]

It is always better to start from scratch on any tuning

[@DanEBoyd]

Shucks, you almost need a safety blanket for the intake.

[@bavarianmonkey8326]

Clamping such a huge surface area only on the outside was destined to fail from the beginning, given the boost pressures involved... Some holddowns in the middle seem to be a good idea. Guess nobody simulated this thing with FEM prior to manufacturing it.

[@Draxindustries1]

Should be titled ' fuckin inlet fuckin manifold fuckin exploded on the fuckin dyno'

[@zachduncan6421]

When your burst panel is stronger than your intake

[@MrSelmo85]

It's wild that the explosion screwed up the focus on the camera...

[@lanegeisewite1436]

Such badass cars!! Another sick ZL1 and of course legendary Red Rum Silverado!! Keep it up guys!!🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲💪💪💪

[@anthonyjohnson9539]

Looks like you had a little flames going by the head there on passenger side of the motor

[@s10issues84]

Where is the rev limiter set? Did it touch it causing the pressure in the intake? Glad everyone is safe- sucks the burst panel didn't get it. I think it says a lot that you don't want to talk down on other shops but are also willing to show issues. I would rather bring my car to a shop that doesn't hide failures than a shop that seems to have never made a mistake. It is a process.

[@Classickoolcars]

Soooooo. “Danger to manifold “ is actually a thing. 🤣😱😱😱

[@dano4572]

VERY GOOD GUYS!!!!

[@theDangerousBobo]

That intake was leaking from the first pull, you can see it squirting out after the throttle body.

[@kindbluey]

Might be time for dyno safety cages to be installed.

[@geeder9086]

Seems like all that hissing & streams of boost leak were kind of a big warning

[@rockybaker8954]

The real question is since you don't want to dog another shop witch I agree with. Can you tune a twin carb blower set up

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

See, I just want a 620 Wheel 93 Tune for my gen 2 Dog.. Nothing crazy not trying to break Records or my Car.. I want that supercharged power without worrying because we pushed it to the edge..

[@kiqnkf]

I thought I saw a backfire, there was a frame of flames/explosion - but if you say there wasn't, then I guess there wasn't.

[@loundclear9279]

Glad everybody is good that scard the shit outta me I thought the dam throttle body shot towards him. I learn the hard way on the dyno and hwear the scars every day , had a huge ntrous back fire on methonal and chunks of the intake carb came right through the windsheild cut my face up pretty good 1 more inch id lost my right eye . But anyway good video and that mf gonna fly

[@ernhart3333]

I sure would love to get my Katech ZR1 down to you guys for a REAL TUNE!!!!

[@garnellwalls3721]

Great video guys.

[@jtokidjb]

Makes me wish I had a ZL1....but will have to settle for a 2650 on my Mustang

[@vortecturbo]

God bless you brother keep God first. hes keeping the promise to you by your oath Oli. Big love and respect from Houston Tx Daniel Meek

[@phillipthethird42]

It takes a long time to put one together, but only a split second to come apart.

[@mauricewaddelliii6244]

Damn for as expensive as that Frankenstein intake is it looks like thin metal. And it hasn’t been tested past a certain point

[@commonsenseisdeadin2024]

Think it's safe to assume this is being pushed well beyond any certain point they would be testing them at...... What he say, 4x pounds... Did you see the turbo? More importantly you see the size of those methanol lines in the charge pipe! PSI is irrelevant (for the most part) that's trying to shove 20lbs of shit in a 5lbs bag.,.. something is going to split open, I'd say good thing it was the intake but I've seen the prices of those and if you don't have the weight for them to replace it, I'm not sure if you'd be SOL 😂

[@jasonhastings5538]

That obs is a bad unit!!!!💪💪💪💪

[@klewisjohnson]

40lbs boost. Ahhh good starting point. Holy f

[@mostills4017]

He needs a steve morris intake 😂

[@KTMGREG55]

100% design flaw . Who leaves that little of meat around a sealing/mounting surface of something involving pressure 🤦‍♂️. UNREAL , got so lucky

[@joshreynolds729]

Damn glad you guys made it could have went south real quick.

[@pacometaco22]

Willis built !

[@blown572hemi]

At least it didn't do the typical head lift with 4or6 bolt cylinder bolt pattern.

[@CamaroThings]

These notification delays are killing me Smalls!

[@thomashulse241]

Love the content /not the language soo much.

[@nb_autoworks]

To bad need a plazmaman intake now

[@dchilton]

Time to call Plazmaman

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

Oh that's right you guys' are in Maryland.. I have been looking for a shop to Whipple or VMP my PP Manual 17 GT.. Not looking for big numbers' I want to keep her as stock as I can to save on money.. (But more importantly I want to roll through NJ Inspection every 2 years without issue.) (So that means stock cats and header's and a 100 HP less and I am ok with that.. I don't want short or long tube headers, or the Cats out, nor do I want E85.. I live in NJ and don't want to drive 25 miles out of my way with blue jugs in my trunk for Ejuice..) So what kind of power am I limited to on 93 with a Supercharger? 600 Wheel 650?? I have been looking at Whipple and VMP but I don't want to lose my Strut brace either.. I definitely want screws for the instant torque which is hard on the MT82 but I am already looking at a Ben Calimer MT82 Stage 2 upgrade for down the road.. My greatest fear is dropping my car off at a shop or National in Virginia or some place like that, then not seeing my car again for 3 months.. I am looking to pay for everything up front extra even but I want my car back at the end of the week Done, SC'ed and tuned in under a work week.. I don't want to deal with the we are waiting on parts or bs like Oh we have to send the fuel pumps back they are bad BS. Or we are waiting on the Machine shop. I think National Racing in VA are great! I am not talking about them per say... I am talking about the other shops like them, that show Video's of their shop putting a whipple stage 2 kit in, "In 1 8hr work day", then day 2 they are going over everything and putting the Base Tune in for the set up! So in just 2 day's it's on and drivable. By day 3 they are doing pull's with the tuner dialing it in further and by day 5 the car should be Dialed, Done! And fully tuned ready to take home!! Not saying they are like that but a lot of these Big shops once they get your money and your car will throw your car to the side while they take care of their friends first.. I guess what I am getting at is where do I go to get treated just as good as someone who has over a million sub's or an influencer!! Will I get the same treatment?? Example, When Cleetus or Kyle from boosted boys blow a motor, or heads within a week someone has already got the block and is rebuilding it, or new and better one is already in the mail or at least being worked on.. Like I am not trying to give someone my car so it can get put in the lot to sit for 3/4 months while they are working on every other car but mine. That is my greatest fear...I just want to drop my car off with a shop on Monday and go pick it back up that Friday and be safe and great for daily driving and because I am not looking for more than 650 WHP, like anything over 620 WHP would be fine with me. Don't want to be beat by 4 banger Turbo's is all I am asking for.... LOL...

[@Qwiktripz1320]

What kind of RPM did it see when it ran away?

[@sixoid4104]

Exhibit A of why nobody should be directly near a dyno when a car is making a run, BESIDES THE PERSON SITTING IN IT

[@cjcantrell80]

Maybe I'm just ignorant to engine building and engineering, but wouldn't the "burst panel" be more beneficial, and functional, sitting on the top of the intake? Sure, it may take away from the aesthetics, but isn't saving money/engines a little more important? If the pressure is building inside the cavity it seems it makes more sense to send it up instead of back. Again, I have peanuts worth of knowledge in this, so I'd be interested to learn why my thought is wrong.

[@MrSelmo85]

I wish people would call the bad shops out, how many people are using them not knowing they are crap??

[@billmadison2032]

unlucky you blew the welds on the intake

[@kh40yr]

Oceangate failure, as they are now known. Hand laid or comp laid shit will only take soo many cycles, depending on how hard they are hit quickly. Burst panel didn't need to go on that one, Other shit "went" in it's place. Glad Y'all dodgeballed the shrapnel. Clear the dyno area in a hard pull. Get behind HD shit if your close.

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

This won't be popular statement but E85 in cars to me is like people taking steroids... I want a pump gas streetcar not a race car with special race fuel.. I would rather deal with the 100 to 150 less HP than do that E-juice to my car.. If it was at every gas station in NJ I would probably want it.. I am already impressed with what the car is making on 91/93. Now if I had a track or race car than I would want the special Juice in her.. But because it's kind of my daily, I just want a simple easy safe 610 to 620 wheel.. Like I always say, I want to drive through inspection like the car came from Ford that way..

[@turboman351w3]

The burst panel should be on top of the intake 😢

[@Epsonblade]

So why does the intake blow instead of the burst panel? I've seen plenty of intakes get saved by burst panels over the decades... This is the first time I have seen one of these newer style billet intakes come apart like that and the panel stays in tact... Did frankenstein say why it went down that way or what?

[@niebsimsport567]

I think it just boils down to surface area. Psi is pounds per square inch. Idk what the burst panel should pop at psi or pounds of force wise but since it's such a smaller amount of area compared to the top of the manifold it doesn't see near the amount of force. For example if the manifold top is 8" by 16 (idk actual dimensions but that might be close), that's 160 square inches times 42psi of boost. The top is seeing 5300 pounds of force pushing against it. The burst panel is maybe 3" x 5", 15 square inches times 42 psi, it's only seeing 600 pounds of force. Sorry it's long but thats what I think the issue is with this style of intake and burst panels not working. You may have thought this already too.

[@SeatLeonMK2]

maybe intercooler?

[@midnightc6664]

A intake that cost that much money should not be doing that. Never seen a 4150 and Wilson elbow do that……

[@savage6394]

Now I understand why people put a $100 bill on the burst panel. Nothing is going to happen to it. It's safe. 😂

[@bradbinion6125]

Why did it not pop the burst Plate in the back?

[@proffessasvids]

Pop! Daaaaym

[@andrewduringer8836]

I don't have any experience with burst panels but with a turbo application don't they typically like to see the burst panel on the top of the intake or does it not really matter? I doubt it would've made any difference but curious if there is

[@baby-sharkgto4902]

The force is equal at any area

[@austinraider3196]

Was there a internal plate behind the burst panel with a allen head cap screw? If not, that may be why the panel didn't blow. That screw puts pressure on the plate when its installed and helps it split during a backfire/explosion.

[@jamesmartin-lb6br]

Shrapnel city man!

[@Fryinryan88]

How much boost??!?!?!!

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

Do you guy's do the build's too???

[@LateModelPerformance]

Yes we do

[@ctvette1318]

Great video. Curious how much lower the RWHP would be on a chassis dyno given the inertia and resistance losses not accounted for with no wheels and tires on a hub dyno?

[@gregmatson1470]

You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs..