What is a 2010-2014 S197 Mustang | History & Specs

In this LMR "What is" video, Landan talks about the history and specifications of the 2010-2014 Mustang! Enjoy the video, and let us know your thoughts about the 2010-2014 Mustangs!
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Chapters
Intro - 0:00
Video Introduction & Early History - 0:17
Exterior - 2:00
Interior - 5:22
Suspension, Brakes, & Drivetrain - 7:42
Engine Options - 9:30
2010-2014Shelby GT500 - 12:01
2010-2014 GT/CS - 13:54
2012-2013 Boss 302 - 15:53
Saleen, Roush, Shelby, & Other Specialty Models - 18:51
Outro - 20:21
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[@likenem]

Fun Fact, Ford Couldn't sell the Boss 302 Laguna Secca in Canada because Canada required Day time running lights. The regular Canadian Bos 302 got fog lights as day time running lights but the Fog lights were used as Brake cooling ducts on the Laguna Secca.

[@billmcmeekin7909]

That must be on 2012's ehh? My regular 13 Canadian Boss, has daytime running lights from side of HID headlights. Fog lights might be on also, but not certain. Did 13 Laguna have different HID headlights in Canada?

[@1SIK500]

@@billmcmeekin7909I definitely believe he’s referring to the older car, don’t all 13/14’s have day time running lights?

[@billmcmeekin7909]

@@1SIK500 They only made street version Boss' in 1969, 1970, 2012 and 2013. I know they sold a few Laguna Seca Boss's from 12 and 13 in Canada, but not many. One thing I just remembered, is all cars sold in Canada since 90's must have daytime running lights. Perhaps the Laguna he was talking about was imported, but actually still needs them to pass inspection, for import. Perhaps I'm missing something?

[@likenem]

@@billmcmeekin7909 Yep. The Grill was Changed for the 2013 Mustang

[@robfeldschun6146]

No Canadian 13 GT’s had fog lights in the grill. They didn’t meet Canadians safety standards or something. But the 14’s had em and they were fine that year apparently 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@thomaspc0]

I wanted the S197 Mustang since I first saw the concept in 2003. It took me until MY 2013 to get one and I've had it for 10 years now and still love it. Great video about a great car.

[@Andrew_460]

I miss my old 14 V6 mustang. The 3.7 didnt have a ton of power but it had plenty to have some fun and hurt some feelings. It was also a good conversation piece. Everyone knew what the 5.0 was for good reason but I liked explaining what the 3.7 was all about. It suprised a lot of people. It was also fantastic on fuel. Made for the perfect daily driver.

[@rianhassan3149]

Exactly why I want one as my first Mustang.

[@backyardboosters9128]

In my opinion the s197 especially 11-14 were the coolest mustangs so far. They handled pretty darn well for their class and they shook up the class by being such strong performers. Also they were the lightest cars in their class at the time as far as domestics go.

[@jpadilla21]

2012 Boss owner here. 2010-2012 is the best looking in my opinion

[@fortheloveofnoise9298]

2013 BOSS 302 is my dream modern car. 2013 looks so much better than the 2012.

[@2011Transformersdotm]

2010-2012 best design of modern mustang of all time

[@planetdee3587]

At 3:00... I can't stress how much I love that power hood design as you call it. It is probably my most favorite feature as it is not a dull flat piece but has many shapes in it. Feels exotic.

[@JesseAndMike]

This was awesome! Great S197 mustang history vid!

[@planetdee3587]

I feel the Boss 302 (and for me specifically the 2012) was like the new generation Eleanor of its time. It just stood out and was so amazing.

[@sprint2648]

I have a 2014 GT500 and it’s a blast to drive! My favorite body style!

[@josedelarosa6449]

Great breakdown on the 2nd gen S197.

[@Smokebreakbbq]

Love my 2012 GT Premium! It’s been good to me and always fun 🤩

[@normangarland6558]

Very well done. subject was described by year, model and covered most of the options and differences. In fact he showed many that I was not aware off. And I own an2012 GTcs. Great Job!!!!!.

[@NissanTy]

I have a 2013 base 301a gt and its been a blast to own! I made it my own and I'll never sell it. I own a 2021 gen 3 coyote too and my2013 will be with me forever

[@jayjayrecordz]

2011 3.7 6 speed here not a 5.0 but I’m glad a video was released on this platform

[@mustang8206]

Just call it a V6😂

[@jayjayrecordz]

@@mustang8206 still a 3.7 right? 💁🏻‍♂️

[@ricflair1375]

Amazing facts bro thanks for the info

[@MaddMango]

Good stuff. I have a manual 2014 Deep Impact Blue GT Premium with Track Pack.

[@tommyyancy3902]

Great color and package!

[@tonyadams6375]

Great video! I currently have a 2013 Premier 3.7. It’s my 3rd Mustang (1970, 1978 and 2013). This one is my favorite so far!

[@jayjayrecordz]

Best Mustang ever imo 🔥

[@RefinedMayweather]

I have the 2011 Glass Roof 5.0 saddle leather seats 6 speed Love it 😁😁

[@willynorris1739]

Love my 2010 Roush 427R!

[@fortheloveofnoise9298]

You did such a good job with this that I wish you would do a video like this on the 5th gen Camaro.

[@guthrie_1]

I never owned this generation, but I have a soft spot for it. It looks so good.

[@nicholasdoran]

I absolutely love my 2013 Boss 302.

[@tommyyancy3902]

I have a 2O14 GT, the best year imo, lol. I love it! I have the GT500 front bumper conversion and love that as well. I have bought a few items from LMR and hope to buy a wheel and tire set soon, though I can’t make up my mind which style. Will definitely go with a staggered 19 inch setup. Any word on when Nittos will be back in stock for the staggered 19 inch setups? I don’t want a 19x10 square setup on Ohtsu tires.

[@latemodelrestoration]

Tommy - Thank you for your business! We're hoping to have more Nitto tires very soon. Whichever kit you like on the site, sign up for in-stock alerts; that way, you're notified whenever the kit is back in stock. -Landan

[@tommyyancy3902]

I was looking on NTWs website today. They had the G2’s in 315/35/19, but no 285’s. You could get 275’s though.

[@BrentDietz]

Great recap of all the differences between the 2010 - 2014 S197s. Although production was limited to 50 cars (+1 Daytona 500 Pace Car), I was hoping to see at least a mention of the 2011 Mustang GT/CS Daytona Pace Car. I own one of these rare models and absolutely love it, even though people think I added the stickers, not Ford!

[@jaysteez2025]

I prefer the 2010-2012 front end and the 13-14 rear end.

[@kegapr181]

There was a performance sub model of the 2011 and 2012 GT500 which had 3.73 rear ends, different sized front and rear wheels and tire package plus some addition chassis tuning. They also used a thinner stripping package when equipped .The 2013 and 2014 also the performance sub model but without the 3.73 gears.

[@midnight347]

It was just called the svtpp or svt performance package. Wasn't a sub model per se just an option package.

[@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049]

3v especially the 2nd gen s197 will always be my preference.

[@JDG119]

please do a video on the SMS Saleen 302

[@MrBman2218]

I’ve owned a 2011 V6 and 2012 GT Premium. My 2011 had the hood mirror covers but my 2012 does not. Always thought that was a 10-11 feature. Also my 2012 has a built in garage door opener and my 2011 did not.

[@rictalmarlin9435]

Yes finally

[@autobot8095]

awesome...!

[@planetdee3587]

If I could go back in time, my ideal version would either be the standard Boss 302 in Race Red with black accents or the Laguna Seca version in black with red accents.

[@user-cf5sj7mo9w]

love the s197 mid lift 2010-2012 !!!!

[@a.jhuamanno1099]

Are you going to continue this series and do the s550??? Looking forward to it

[@latemodelrestoration]

Thanks for the comment. Yep, we have the "What is an S550" on the list. Hopefully we can get it to in the near future. -Landan

[@a.jhuamanno1099]

Amazing, keep up the good work!!!@@latemodelrestoration

[@ThatOneColoradoGuy]

I don't know if it would be considered a specialty model but definitely the shelby super snake I think should be included for both of the s197 generations

[@TheCamper83]

2013/14 Cyclone cars could get a Performance Pack option that added many of the V8 Track Pack options to the car. It was a $1995 option for base cars or a $1495 option for higher equipped cars.....fyi 👍🏻

[@stephencarbajal5657]

Boss!🤤🤤🤤 my favorite

[@ZXDF51]

I wonder if the 2011-2014 coyote cars will be highly collectable in the future? Just because the s197 body only has the 5.0 for 4 years.

[@169abr]

13-14 will be 100%, especially BOSS 302’s, GT/CS, and most importantly ones that haven’t been gutted and ratted out.

[@popularship1636]

Yes the will from 2010 to 2014

[@mustang8206]

I hope the entire S197 becomes a classic. The 05 brought back the true muscle car and the 11 improved upon the power

[@midnight347]

​@@mustang8206they will it isn't specific to 10 up cars. The 3v was only around 6 years total I don't see the 11-14 being super collectable just because they have coyotes I think they will hold good value and remain sought after. Especially since the new mustang sucks and is locked down. This is going to make the older cars hold their value even better than they already were.

[@midnight347]

​@@169abrtoo many 13-14 fanboys. The 11-12 cars are just as good and look every bit as good especially when they're modded right. Nothing special about the 13s I don't see them holding value any more than 11-12 other than them being slightly more because of being slightly newer. Outside of that they don't hold value any better. Alot of people prefer 11-12 too (myself included) it's cliche and predictable to fanboy for the 13-14s

[@planetdee3587]

So I loved the video, but was a bit disappointed that when you went thru the special editions like the California Special, you did not do the Club if America or Pony Package for the v6. This was the first time the v6 was a proud car in the lineup.

[@rizzlerazzleuno4733]

Yep, I have a 2011 V6 Premium convertible with the Pony package & manual transmission. White exterior with the stone leather interior.The original owner special ordered it and I searched the net for 6 months to find it. Pretty rare combination. The V6 will get 30 mpg on regular.

[@planetdee3587]

@@rizzlerazzleuno4733 indeed. I am a owner of the Club of America v6 premium in Candy Metallic Red and black interior. It is beautiful.

[@ilc-nl3yy]

I recently bought a black 2014 Mustang GT convertible. I'm considering having it painted Cactus Grey and putting a set of staggered 19 inch black bullitt wheels.

[@InfinityMcCool]

Were Recaros just an option for the track pack? I've got a 2013 that has every other feature besides that, always assumed it was a track pack...

[@169abr]

It was a separate options, and a pricey one at that IIRC.

[@Godzukidan]

I love my 2012

[@rianhassan3149]

Can you get the V6 with the Shaker 1000/Pro? Also, can you get the V6 with the glass roof? Edit: The glass roof is available with the V6. The Shaker 1000 is not.

[@latemodelrestoration]

Yes, you could option a V6 car with a glass roof. I don't think the Shaker 1000/Pro audio system was available for the V6 cars. -Landan

[@CarlosMartinez-or9sg]

Can someone please tell me what wheels the White 2014 California Special Mustang in the video is running? I'm wondering about the rims of course if someone knows the full specs like size and everything please help me out! I have a Sterling Gray 2014 GT Premium I'm attempting to run the same wheels on. Wish I had the glass roof option its the one thing I'm missing haha

[@latemodelrestoration]

Carlos - Here is a link to the wheel and tire kit: lmr.com/item/WTK-188913G/sve-mustang-sp2-wheel-tire-kit-19x10-11-graphite-g2-05-14 Here is the wheel only kit: lmr.com/item/WK-188913/sve-mustang-sp2-wheel-kit-19x10-11-gloss-graphite-05-14

[@CarlosMartinez-or9sg]

@@latemodelrestoration Awesome, awesome! Thank you so much! Keep rocking on LMR! 🤘🏼

[@Wooley689]

I still enjoy my 2011 GT, the manual transmission can be a problem though if you try to lazy shift, these have to be shifted like you mean it during spirited driving. I've been driving a manual since I was sixteen and until I got used to the 2011 GT, sometimes I would get that locked out shifting.

[@robfeldschun6146]

Like has been m motioned a billion times on the web. It’s your stock clutch locking you out, not the mt82.

[@midnight347]

​@@robfeldschun6146this lol

[@169abr]

Very odd little tidbit I’ve heard about the 6R80 “Sport Mode” it’s actually a tow/haul with a different name.

[@dylanrobichaud5095]

Have a 14 myself and prefer the 13/14s over the plastic body trim on the 10-12s. Just a cleaner looking car in my opinion. Also I must be one of the few who has never had issues with the mt-82. Shifting over 7000rpm never experiencing lockout with the stock clutch and shiftier.

[@rizzlerazzleuno4733]

I have 2011 with 84,000 miles and no issues with the 6-speed manual transmission. But I don't rev it to 7000. 😎

[@midnight347]

​@@rizzlerazzleuno4733why would you not Rev it to 7000? You certainly ain't getting the most out of your car.

[@midnight347]

I'm the opposite I like the contrast of the black trim. The 07-09 gt500 had this and all 10-12 mustangs inherited that styling and I think it's awesome. That part of the car gets beat up anyway and is hard to keep clean. Its more user friendly imo.

[@user-ei8lx5yf5r]

I just got my first mustang. A 2012gt with har i learned here has a lot of Gt500 stuff

[@brianespo22]

I would trade my 13 gt for a boss and my mt-82 is still running strong with 165k on it just replaced the factory clutch a few months ago with a vengeance clutch

[@brianrowlison6080]

I was waiting for the limited edition Mustang Club of America (MCA) card?

[@ThompsonPerformace]

Redline on the 2010 GT was not 6000rpm, it was 6500rpm unlike the the first gen s197, which made it much better up top as it wouldn’t fall out of the powerband on the shifts.

[@mikeabney1214]

Now do an in depth video on the S 550 mustangs.

[@jeffortman6395]

How much ligher is the manual transmission than the automatic in 2014?

[@latemodelrestoration]

I don't know. I've never weighed a MT82 manual transmission. For what it's worth, the 6R80 automatic transmission with converter and fluid weights ~215 pounds. -Landan

[@Joebauers2505]

I dont think all 10-12 gt's came with the mirror hood cover. My 12 gt pp premium lacks those.

[@taylorhinzie7274]

I have 2014 GT. My favorite car that I or anyone in my family has had

[@Marine2111usmc]

I just inherited my Father's 14 5.0 manual with 24k miles in Ruby Red. My first Ford as that I'm a Gm and Toyota guy. I love this car and I'll never get rid of it. I'm going to make my own super snake with it.

[@JoseRamirez-js4gq]

Would a 2014 gt 500 hood fit on a 2010 model??

[@latemodelrestoration]

Out of the box, no. You would have to convert to a 2010-2014 GT500 bumper or a 13-14 GT/V6 bumper. -Landan

[@billmcmeekin7909]

I have a 13 PW Boss, and love it. It was hard to find any color when I was shopping. 13 SBY Laguna, I believe is the cherry on top Boss, of both years! I would definitely love one in my stable also. Good luck on acquiring one. The search can be as fun as owning. Was for my both Boss and Z06 :⁠-⁠)

[@__fu]

The blue one is the sought after one as it is the lowest product number car.

[@billmcmeekin7909]

@@__fu I still love the school bus yellow is all. Think it looks sharp. My son and I drove 8 hours to Edmonton one nice day to pick up his new car, and got in late to a restaurant, parking far away in a lot. Came outside after dinner and a SBY Boss was parked 8' next to mine. Only two cars in area under street lights. Took some awesome photos, and left. We never did see each other, but is only other Boss I've seen in the wild. :⁠-⁠) Best of all, my son drove all the way and loved it! One day it'll be his :⁠-⁠)

[@TheRedStang227]

You forgot to mention the v6 performance package mustangs. I have one sitting in my driveway,😁.

[@thelrdroca9412]

The late s197 is the BEST looking exterior design of any mustang gen in my opinion.

[@robfeldschun6146]

This seems to be a common opinion 👍🏼

[@newfie-dean5803]

Meh, the 05-09 styling is better. The squish back end of the 10-14 does not look very good.

[@robfeldschun6146]

I remember seeing the s197 prototype and being super disappointed when they released the production version. I’m glad you like your car 👍🏼

[@GTP427cobra]

I have a 2011 GT Premium with the 6 speed and 373 gears it gets over 20 MPG on the highway

[@midnight347]

I get 21 mph causing at 70 with 410 gears in a 750 rwhp 07 gt500.

[@IgoByaGo]

I miss my 2011 GT. Even though the black plastic body trim looked like it came from the Home Depot gardening center. However, those 2013/14's are the best looking.

[@newfie-dean5803]

The 05-09 styling looks way better….

[@ThatLoud3v]

@@newfie-dean5803 I agree 👍🏼 05-09 bodystyle with a coyote motor 😍

[@newfie-dean5803]

@@ThatLoud3v with the 3V cylinder firing order to make the Coyote engine sound like a 3V. Would be a perfect Mustang.

[@ThatLoud3v]

@@newfie-dean5803 oh yes!! Most definitely but yeah I love the way the 3v sounds like for example my car has longtubes headers Catted H-pipe and muffler deletes sounds so wicked im about to throw in some Ford performance Hot Rod cams in couple weeks

[@IgoByaGo]

@@newfie-dean5803 I was never a fan of the 05-09. I loved the 1994-1998, and then my favorite is 1999-2004 New Edge. I’m okay with the 2015-2023. I’m also excited to see the new Dark Horse. Also, I think a New Edge with a Coyote would be rad, but it’s cheaper to just get a 2011-2014.

[@400hpmustang]

Still driving my lowly 2014 mustang gt/cs in 2023.

[@richardthornwell8791]

Why on youtube the 2011 mustang GT is putting out 360 rear wheel horsepower stock on the Dyno but, the manufacturer is giving it 412 horsepower?

[@latemodelrestoration]

Richard - Great question! All manufacturers rate their engines without a drivetrain. This is commonly referred to as "flywheel horsepower". There are also other slang terms for this. Once this power moves through the transmission, driveshaft, differential, axles, rear brakes, and rear wheels, the power is reduced. Think of rear wheel horsepower as power after taxes are taken out. Hope this helps! -Landan

[@midnight347]

It puts 360 to the wheels the manufacturer don't rate them at the wheels that is at the flywheel...

[@roryscottbrown]

You missed the Mustang Club of America Edition which were all V6's. The chassis numbers were recorded though no number plates were on the car.

[@jrhoades2946]

Yes! I own a 2014 MCA edition. V6, special wheels, floor mats and stripe and billet grill.

[@tanto001]

SBY BOSS

[@Andrew_460]

Didnt the 2010 to 2012 gt500s get an aluminum block?

[@midnight347]

11-12 got aluminum 5.4 and 13-14 was a punched out aluminum 5.4 which was a 5.8. 07-10 had the iron block.

[@BryanSalazarAyala]

197 likes, for a s197 video 🔥

[@kentonquint8688]

Having 19" wheels limits your choice of front struts.

[@latemodelrestoration]

If the 19" wheels have the correct offset and backspacing, you'll very rarely have an issue with a factory or factory-style aftermarket strut. Where wheel choices become limited is when the offset and backspacing are not correct. -Landan

[@JuggusNawt]

2010-2011 are the best looking mustangs imo.

[@rizzlerazzleuno4733]

the 2012 is identical to the 2011.

[@JuggusNawt]

Actually the 2010 has its own look. No other year has the same look as the 2010. It's small, but it makes a huge difference.@@rizzlerazzleuno4733

[@scottyprice339]

Should have made a Mach 1

[@FortKnoxSelfStorage-tx3rf]

WAS A SHAKER HOOD OFFERES ON ANY MUSTANG?

[@latemodelrestoration]

The Shaker scoop/hood was never a factory option on any S197 Mustang. It was standard equipment on all 2003-2004 Mach 1 Mustangs. -Landan

[@user-yp2pk6wz2b]

I have a 2010 gt in sunset gold the only year they made it love this color

[@raymond4189]

Why is the 2011-12 V6 speed limited to 113mph?

[@user-cp8bo9rp5x]

to keep the driveshaft from exploding

[@raymond4189]

@@user-cp8bo9rp5x do does that mean the V8 is limited to 113 as well? I thought he said the V6 and V8 use the same drivetrain

[@user-cp8bo9rp5x]

@@raymond4189 I think V8s are capped at 140, not sure

[@S197Mikeee]

155 MPH for the GT

[@raymond4189]

So I have to change my driveshaft before I remove my speed limiter 🤔 dang maybe one day

[@aregusci6157]

You forgot the DUB edition mustang

[@true5.012]

I don’t got those mirrors lol

[@timmiller260]

You didn't have the mustang club cars my 13 is red 31.000 miles

[@Mangobrain82]

The statement was made that the interior was only offered in charcoal black but you could get the red I’m more than positive

[@latemodelrestoration]

The primary color was charcoal black. With certain packages you could get saddle tan, stone grey, or red colored trim. -Landan

[@rizzlerazzleuno4733]

@@latemodelrestoration Yep, I have a 2011 convertible with stone leather. Beautiful and cooler in the summer.

[@landonrobertson6843]

I’m Landon aswell just spelt different

[@kentonquint8688]

Door pockets are too small for a firearm.

[@midnight347]

Well don't put your firearm there then lol

[@jeffortman6395]

It's called dual overhead cams not double overhead cams

[@rickitysplitz7035]

They are both synonyms for the same thing.

[@jeffortman6395]

@rickitysplitz7035 yes. It just sounds odd.

[@midnight347]

​@@jeffortman6395it's called either one however you wanna say it.

[@G.M85007]

2012 brembo package

[@ryanminor2334]

Hard to believe these cars are a little over 10 yrs old. I’ve have my 13 GT for 5 years and it’s never given me issues and maintenance is simple on these cars.

[@Geforcepat]

Um, No the 2010 mustang was basically the s197 version of the New Edge.

[@newfie-dean5803]

True. The 10 was certainly not a complete exterior restyling of the 05-09 like the 94 was for the fox body. However, they made the 10 styling worst with that squish back end and that terrible black cladding. Ford should have stuck with the 05-09 styling and did more subtle changes similar to what dodge did with the challenger.

[@midnight347]

​@@newfie-dean5803it was just a refresh just like 18 was for the s550 and 99 was for the sn95 and 87 was for the fox. Sn95 and fox were two different platforms

[@midnight347]

​​@@newfie-dean5803I like the contrast of the "terrible black cladding" the 07-09 gt500 got that styling and all 10 up mustangs inherited said styling. That part of the car just gets beat up and dirty anyways who cares if it's body color? It's more user friendly with the black plastic at the bottom. Looks really good with a cdc front splitter.

[@user-wr9gl6xv6m]

Super snake?...

[@russcatt5952]

The rear on the 2013 was so ugly😫

[@Odin3v]

Yea it is. The one piece bumper was huge and bleh!

[@MrDeathdealer79]

I think the same about the 05 to 09 the bubble rear lights look terrible...I'd buy a 3valve 4 the engine not the look

[@rickitysplitz7035]

How is it ugly? It's the best looking rear end out of any modern Mustang.

[@Odin3v]

As an owner of the a 2010, I like owning a bastard year mustang. Yes, coyotes are faster, and pretty much 90% of the owners are little pee pee douche bags, but I love my cammed 3v. 3v sounds better, and 350hp to the wheels is plenty to have fun. I dont drag race, that is boring so straight line speed and HP mean nothing to me. Even living in a town of 1500, there at least 30 coyote cars here, and maybe 5 3v. And mine gets the most attention. The 2010 v6 had the same puny front brakes as the 05-09 v6 regardless of wheel package. The 2011-2014 v6 had the same size front brakes as the GT models, even the brembo packages were still standard sized GT brakes on the v6. 2010 shared the same drive shaft length as the 05-09 but 11-14 were longer due to the piece of shit MT-82.

[@2011Transformersdotm]

Faster but not big difference although 100hp more and 2010 gt isn’t slow at all. Many Coyote owners act like they are the fastest and have an ego problem. I own a 2010 gt and I’m happy that I chose the 3v over the coyote, people get attracted to them more and 5.0 sounds nothing compared to 3v.

[@Odin3v]

@@2011Transformersdotm 3v also has a much better torque curve, and the 3650 is a better trans even though its a 5 speed vs the POS MT-82. I can keep up pretty good with a 1st gen Coyote, while sounding alot better.

[@midnight347]

Straight line isn't boring when you have enough power to be thrilling and sketchy. I'm sure straight line is boring with 350 wheel lol. I get what you're saying tho twisties is cool but I mean

[@midnight347]

​​@@Odin3vwhy do people act like the only choice is between 3v and coyote. People say they like the power curve and sound of the 3v more well guess what? There's another option that has the same old school sound the 3v has (only better) has a wicked torque curve also (only better) and you can get them in either early s197 or 2010 style. It's called a 5.4 gt500. You can have all the things you like about the 3v (only way better) but have potential close to modern coyotes and better than gen 1 coyotes. Not sure why more people in that way of thought don't go with gt500s. It's almost like they forget that's even an option. I love my 07 it's got a gen3r and arh long tubes it's nasty as hell. Has a way better trans than either 3v or coyotes. Also before you say they're crazy expensive not always. Bought mine in 2020 clean title for 16500 with just over 100k. I've seen them even in the last year similar for just over 20. I seen a really nice one recently w only 30k for 28. That isn't bad at all. They can make 600+ to the wheels with a stock blower and 800+ with a blower swap and fueling. Gt500 ftw

[@Odin3v]

The cost between a GT500 and a GT is 20k on avg, and insurance is nearly double, even when your above 25. So idc really. The avg mustang owner cant afford a shelby. So that is a prety stupid point. @@midnight347 And it is extremely easy to swap a T6060 trans into an 05-10 GT for about $1200. Shelby owners are 10000% worse then coyote owners towards others on avg. So why would anyone wanna be a snob?

[@jaspal666]

Nah. MT82 is garbage.

[@robfeldschun6146]

Nah, the clutch is garbage. Mt82 is ok.

[@midnight347]

​@@robfeldschun6146just someone reciting what others say online what else is new.

[@ramonllerenas3794]

If you don't know how to drive stick then yes mt82 is trash 😂

[@hammerdown3876]

Poor 2010 stang GT... a true bastard child as she got the new looks but no 5.0... and now no one wants her...

[@rizzlerazzleuno4733]

Same for the V6. The folks that bought a 2010 must have been pretty unhappy when they learned of the improvements to the V6 in 2011. Only Ford employees knew a big change was coming in 2011 for the V8 & V6. If knowledge of the improvement had been released (leaked out) sales of the 2010 would have tanked. I searched for 6 months and had to fly 600 miles to get my 2011 V6 Premium convertible with 6 speed manual. Plenty-O-Fun and great gas mileage.

[@ElfCrotchPuncher]

The boss 302 really was the hidden Eleanor of the new school. Thing is untouchable

[@latemodelrestoration]

They're great cars! One of my favorite Mustangs. -Landan

[@xaviersjordans2331]

The 05-09 mustang was Way better looking than the 10-14

[@Odin3v]

Thats debatable. 05-09 just look really sad in the front. Almost bland. While I love the 05-09, I would take a 2010 over them. Why I own one.

[@BessieRiggs]

@@Odin3v are you talking in general about the front end? The v6, yeah. Base GT gets better, but the GT/CS and GT500 fronts on the 05-09 are pretty solid. Given the choice between 1st and 2nd half of the S197 with the 3v, I’m taking the 1st because I like the styling more. The S197 should have stopped as soon as the put in the 5.0.

[@newfie-dean5803]

Absolutely. The squish back end of the 10+ looked terrible and that black cladding was cheap looking. The 05-09 had a true retro look that was lost. Ford should have kept the 05-09 styling and did more subtle exterior styling changes to it similar to what dodge did with the challenger. They should have put the 5.0 in it and made it better handling and kept the 3V motor cylinder firing order to make the coyote engine sound better.

[@robfeldschun6146]

I remember when the concept of the S197 came out, I was so pumped to get one of those cars. And then the production model came out and I was so disappointed. The 10 to 12‘s have way too much black plastic on the bottom and the car looks super dated. The 13-14 are perfection. Just one old dudes opinion.