Jeremy Allen White Talks About Kevin Von Erich's One Rule for The Iron Claw

Jeremy Allen White talks about his short king label, how limited his wrestling knowledge was before accepting a role in The Iron Claw and performing his own stunts.
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[@SirVic42]

Heartbreaking quote from the real Kevin Von Erich: "I used to have five brothers. Now I can't even call myself a brother."

[@v1per187]

Yeah, I remember him saying that :(

[@Kdot519]

He says it in the movie too it’s so sad

[@bewgsy6892]

it was in the movie too... was one of the saddest films ive ever seen

[@TheJordanHunt3r]

I remember that saying from " Dark Side of the Ring " So sad :(

[@itz-luigi1210]

That's cause Kerry can't count

[@nicholasbintner4677]

Hearing him talk like a wrestler is awesome. "They protected us, they made us look good" so hyped for this movie

[@lancegustafson4190]

It's really good bro

[@primeapegaming4277]

MJF was a beast in this movie

[@barrymccockiner773]

@@primeapegaming4277he was only in it for like 5 seconds lol

[@primeapegaming4277]

@@barrymccockiner773 well yeah most people don't know about Lance

[@nicholasbintner4677]

@@lancegustafson4190 yeah it was! Lol finally saw it on Wednesday night

[@FaithfulDreamy]

Gosh i cried so much especially when Michael died :[ Such a heartbreaking movie filled of tragedy. To think they left out one brothers death because it was too much tragedy is even much more heart wrenching. Kevin is an incredibly strong man.

[@dopeonthescale]

which death? i havent seen the movie yet

[@sonokoroxs]

​@@dopeonthescale They left out Chris's death. He wasn't even included in the film or brother count. I just looked it up after seeing the movie. I was shocked.

[@MMania22]

​@@sonokoroxsthey sort of combined him and Kerry.

[@alba4132]

@@yourmothersbox4446 i think it was also cause Kerry and Chris both died of suicide so they said showing 2 suicides would have been too much and repetitive so they just kinda combined the 2

[@yourmothersbox4446]

​@@alba4132 the changes were made with the most care in the world, it would have been too much death to handle it wouldn't work in the constraints that is a film. its one thing to retell the story but also make a good film out of it too and due to many factors, and the fact chris and mike had such similar they sorta combined the brothers

[@bryanfouts287]

I grew up in the 80’s in Dallas and the name Von Erich was ubiquitous. You may not have even known wrestling but you knew the name.

[@RodneyJames138]

Same

[@PopeSixtusVI]

It was the Dallas Cowboys and the Von Ericks. That's how big they were!

[@TexasAudits101]

Same

[@aidonis98]

The movie omits the 4th brother, because they thought that would enter "overwhelmingly sad" territory. Brutal stuff.

[@FlixCreEightR]

Which is a chicken sht answer.

[@nostalgiaman6816]

@@FlixCreEightRI agree. Chris should have been in there.

[@MasonAveKid437]

Sean Durken fought to keep in the 5th brother. The studio wasn’t going to green light it. And to be honest, having just seen it, another death and a half hour longer, would have been brutal. It’s a very sad sad movie. I saw it knowing nothing of the Von Erichs beforehand and I was saying aloud in the theater multiple times, oh my God! It’s great but it is super sad.

[@kenny31000]

well it was just chris who is the youngest one and his story was sad enough on it own it would ended with his death as the last one being shot in the head

[@nostalgiaman6816]

@@kenny31000 Yep. “Just Chris.” That’s probably what he thought in real life before he shot himself. I made a few comments already about the irony that he wasn’t “important enough” to make the movie because that’s probably how he felt about himself in real life because he wasn’t able to wrestle.

[@cholosoy8511]

The movie did a decent job portraying the Von Erichs, but after you watch the movie, I would strongly recommend to watch Vice’s “Dark side of the ring” episode on them. It will help to fill some of the plot holes the movie didn’t explore.

[@KK-pm7ud]

The real story is more depressing than the movie

[@isaiahthepotato1600]

The fact that they just cut out one of the brothers entirley. I forget his name, but I watch dark side of the ring with my dad

[@sniper8560]

They left out a brother

[@isaiahthepotato1600]

@@sniper8560 ik

[@coreyfeldhaus6887]

The fact Chris was left out is kind of despicable.

[@katielark1]

He is so likeable, seems so akward and down to earth. Love him

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Loved him in movie

[@jayredstone107]

Awkward?

[@Michelle-bb7bs]

I wouldn't say awkward, more like uncomfortable and nervous

[@parlay-music]

Not really awkward at all but ok

[@erikkibler3466]

Just a human being,no reason to make it weird

[@lazybacon7520]

The Von Erichs are to Texas as the Harts are to Canada

[@ryanjaycepascua699]

As the Anoa’i family is to the Pacific Islands

[@innocentrage1]

Kevin Hart isn't Canadian

[@aliofly]

@@innocentrage1haha

[@user-xp1yq7ef1l]

@@innocentrage1 He was the dark Hart.

[@Prejet1982]

@@innocentrage1 They are talking about the Harts from Calgary. Canadian wrestling royalty

[@choppystyle87]

this movie was f n incredible. and emotional rollercoaster for sure. every person that played in this movie played their characters perfectly.

[@ulyssesdoroja2973]

Except the guy who played Ric Flair, but otherwise amazing movie

[@troyscott8095]

​@@ulyssesdoroja2973 Yes, agree. Terrible cast job for Flair.

[@waderuelas291]

WHAT MADE THIS FILM INCREDIBLE is yes show the brotherly love they all shared BUT the movie also showed no matter how toxic and horrible parental role they still loved their father they still wanted to make him proud which was so interesting and surprising

[@heyhey8684]

Yess!!!

[@robertpeacock894]

Agreed. The coldness from both mother and father, but when you grow up in that idk toxicity you believe that’s normalcy. I hope something like this wouldn’t happen today. What superstars the Von Erich’s were!

[@scz1770]

Why is that a good thing? Just normalizes toxic parents. You can show the love while also showing how misguided it was.

[@mychaeljones7526]

​@@scz1770you don't understand why because you never do Iived that life

[@scz1770]

@@mychaeljones7526 oh sorry, I forgot you know everything 🤡

[@Frank.E.Valley]

"Shameless and the Bear" is my favorite 80s cop show

[@erikkibler3466]

Spot on observation

[@imaane1798]

underrated comment

[@gregorykrug8034]

Not only is the story of the Von Erichs tragic, they were like gods in the wrestling world. Kerry Von Erich was probably only second to Hulk Hogan in popularity back then.

[@TheInternetsIncinerator]

no, thats just a lie, over, yes, mostly in texas, but as NWA Champ, or in wwf he never could retain the popularity

[@gregorykrug8034]

@@TheInternetsIncinerator "Lie" is a bit harsh. There was a small handful of wrestlers (Savage, Dusty, Hogan Andre, RnR) who were as big back then. I lived in Maryland and never saw a WCCW match until the late 1980s, yet I knew exactly who the Von Erichs were.

[@TheInternetsIncinerator]

@@chuckbuskee I've hones/ly neve heard that, I heard they considered dusty for it. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying he didn't have a the talent charisma or look. He did. Just the father didn't let them out of town much. My feeling came more from lack of exposure except what I saw young and now in archival footage I've sought out.

[@jres1995]

You're delusional@@TheInternetsIncinerator

[@one_with_kevrything9825]

You're forgetting about The Naitcha Boy and The American Dream, baby.

[@jasonmfvoorhees]

listen to how chavo explains jeremy. he said Jeremy was the best/easiest to train. how incredible. the dude that didnt really care for wrestling and was the best to teach. dudes a talented stud! the bear. a chef, shameless a criminal drunk that was a father figure. dude deserves his accolades

[@Dknyj6891]

Shoutout to Chavo Guerrero!

[@acgAdventures]

Hell yeah

[@lackdeaver9934]

The movie was terrific! Each actor did a great job with what is ultimately one of the most tragic life stories ever. I think they were very respectful to the family and it showed in the film.

[@djdarq6311]

The Flair guy didn’t. This guy didn’t. The Harley Race actor didnt either

[@toucansam3]

​@@djdarq6311 The guy who played Flair was awful. Horrible casting choice, he didn't anywhere near Flair's charisma.

[@benadam7753]

I thought Jeremy Allen White sucked as Kerry! He should've played the omitted brother Chris Von Erich!

[@Meatball2022]

There’s nothing more difficult than making yourself look like a legit pro wrestler. Good on them for doing such a good job.

[@hahahaj7117]

Nothing more difficult? You’re positive?

[@Meatball2022]

@@hahahaj7117 ever seen someone trying to make themselves look like a pro wrestler when they’re not???

[@hahahaj7117]

@@Meatball2022 it wouldn’t be that hard as long as you don’t have bad genetics and you run a cycle (which is exactly what this guy did) not saying he didn’t do a great job, he did, and the movie was sick. But I can think of a lot of things that are harder than learning how to do some flashy moves in the ring and generally getting jacked.

[@hahahaj7117]

@@Meatball2022 examples include being a professional at almost any sport, being in a SOF unit in the military, etc.

[@Meatball2022]

@@hahahaj7117 if it were that easy, how come in other wrestling movies they look ridiculous?

[@WendyDahling3]

I grew up in the 80’s. I loved the Von Erich’s! Can’t wait for the movie!

[@prisilla7633]

It was so amazing!! I saw the movie at an early premier, I shed a lot of tears!

[@WendyDahling3]

@@prisilla7633 It’s such a sad story. Kevin survived it all which is really amazing!

[@prisilla7633]

@@WendyDahling3 I can’t imagine someone as strong as him 😢😢

[@claymathewselevator8121]

It was great

[@justinmuscle]

This move was so good I cried more than once tbh I recommend anyone and everyone watch it

[@JM-vb6nf]

Jeremy Allen white is a great actor. Love the movie and glad to see you in another movie

[@BJane58]

The movie was incredible. The acting was phenomenal. It will take me a while to get over this movie.

[@RochellBarbara4690]

Sameeeee I’m watching every doc on them

[@BJane58]

Me, too!@@RochellBarbara4690

[@shugm7487]

Same!!!! 😢

[@Mp25DIII]

Zac Efron's finest work

[@davekerr2395]

Love the movie, hated the storyline. …But I think that was the plan. Shakespearean tragedy.

[@Savagemister]

I was a kid living in Dallas when the Von Erichs were wrestling. We even went to the Sportatorium to see them wrestle live and in person a few times. At the time, it was just what we did. I had no idea how special a time and place it was. I'm not even a wrestling fan anymore, but I'm glad I was there during this time.

[@LovelyMagpie]

Dude. JAW’s styling is en pointe. Holy wow, a nice homage to The Bear’s theme of restaurant camaraderie; coming out in what looks like kitchen staff black&whites, but the close-up provides a bit of interest. And his hair, as always, is a blessing to both him and us. Bravo.

[@Rs-rq9fd]

Yes, Im obsessed with the shirt material. It has to be some sort of silk blend or macerated cotton

[@Jimbrand6756]

Mop Nguyen​@@Rs-rq9fd

[@cindyann9571]

Seen this movie yesterday. All these actors did a great job!❤

[@THE_CDN]

Love "Tom Sawyer" by Rush! 🍁 I'm glad they got the rights to that song for the film. That song's line about the "Modern Day Warrior" was Kerry Von Erich's nickname in wrestling because he liked the song and it's message. I'm glad Kevin is still around to see this film about his beloved brothers.

[@phillipweber6059]

Wonderful film and Jeremy was outstanding in his portrayal of Kerry!

[@KGV1374]

I loved this film. I cried a lot.

[@BDOGreatSaiyanMan]

Phenomenal, phenomenal movie! The love/emotion displayed by the actors playing the brothers is palpable

[@sharon012490]

I love that Chavo Guerrero is now like the coach for all wrestling movies/shows

[@conservativelifeonmars5312]

We have the upmost respect for you playing Kerry Von Erich. The only thing I noticed was the powerful performance.... Thank you!

[@theostgard6212]

**I was at first put off by a smaller guy being Kerry. But he did him 100 percent justice. When you are a guy that portrays this complex person so well. You win fans of all your work going forward. This movie is an investment that he made like Zac on himself. Moving forward this movie is the turning point. Well done.***

[@Cybothron]

They all killed it, great movie!

[@dhajjiyan672]

Give everyone an Emmy for the Bear.

[@mu.108]

they read ur comment and followed through 😆

[@kdizzle901]

They did win them for season 1

[@themotivatedmaycry9120]

Found out about this guy after my girlfriend put me onto Shameless and he’s an amazing actor, still need to continue The Bear

[@zackmorzey]

Well made film. Everyone involved on and off screen did a fantastic job.

[@MahkyVmedia1]

Why didn't they get him to be the new Willy Wonka? He looks exactly like him.

[@wanderingseth]

Missed opportunity right?

[@nyceflix]

Hey... maybe because he was making the movie about the wrestler they're taking about?

[@TheJwaterworks]

Bro, i litterally clicked on the video to comment just that

[@willienelsongonzalez4609]

Utterly spot on! Jeremy Allen White would definitely have been an excellent choice for Wonka!

[@ortizdaniel3410]

I just saw the movie over the weekend not gonna lie I don’t think he would have fit the character that well. I understand he looks likes the original one but that can only go so far but yet again we will never know lol

[@unitedwefalldividedwestand5040]

I grew up watching the Von Erichs in the mid 80's, they were gods in the World Class Championship Wrestling territory

[@Himynameisantone97]

He has to be our lead for a Marty Jannetty film

[@ruralevent1001]

What would that be about

[@Himynameisantone97]

The rise and fall of Marty Jannetty? Look up his story it writes itself! He made a man disappear! Lol.

[@Captain_Yorkie1]

​@@Himynameisantone97 a marty movie would probably be Rated r lau😂

[@munkustrap2]

​@@Himynameisantone97 I don't see the appeal of a movie about just Marty Jannetty. Now Shawn Michaels...there's a story. The rise & fall & rise in both his personal life & wrestling career is something that would give hope to a lot of drug addicts & wrestlers struggling with sobriety. I'm not religious but it can't be denied that Paul Levesque (Triple H); religion & Shawn's wife & son (Cheyenne wasn't born yet, Cameron was 2 when Shawn got sober) saved Shawn's life. As Paul put it, after people were making fun of Shawn for finding God...no one ever OD'd on religion.

[@tomservo4299]

love that this insane story is finally a mainstream thing now......loved the Texas tornado back in the day...this stuff is why I still talk about the old days of the business and don't care for the stuff that is out now

[@alessandromonzani7468]

"They protect us, they make us look good". That's the definition of beign a pro wrestler. I think these guys made a great job portraying the Von Erichs, and really dig the passion about wrestling. Great movie.

[@josephflannery9015]

Chavo shoutout makes me happy

[@leonelcardenas5847]

Kerry Von Erich was my favorite of all the brothers. It was when he was the Texas Tornado in WWF that I became a huge fan!

[@dominicdunn2579]

I hope nothing but the best for this man!

[@theronaldophotography4971]

From Lip Gallagher to Chef Carmy.. The acting magic of this guy is phenomenal! J.A.W has gone a very long way and he's definitely one of Hollywood's shining stars right now.

[@TroyDraws]

Saw it last night, it’s great.

[@alexisferdinand1261]

He’s so precious

[@example2844]

Does anybody else think that Jeremy would have been better suited to play Willy Wonka than Timothy Chalamet purely based on looks?

[@RochellBarbara4690]

Jeremy did such an amazing job in this movie and looked the part all though being short

[@jameswhite2198]

As someone who grew up with the von Erich’s living 60 miles from Dallas I actually got to see them when I was small and I remember thinking not a move any of the wrestlers had could ever beat the iron claw ice man king parson Ugandan giant gentleman Chris Adam’s the fabulous free birds von Erich’s were the best

[@bluez1981]

This was my introduction to professional wrestling....my family were huge long time fans and actually knew the family, I've met Kevin many times. He's 1000% the best man I've ever met.

[@anziocc]

i love him

[@fezenstein]

I saw Kerry VE wrestle Ric Flair when i was a kid living in hawaii. the VonErich v. Fabulous Freebirds was the main rivalry when i watched.

[@l0steditz717]

such a great film

[@BlueCollar1212]

I cannot wait to see this movie

[@nancymurphy7760]

Miss and love Kerry von Erich so much

[@banksconsilio1002]

This Actor deserves a huge push in the industry is work is one of kind.

[@jeremyroberts8822]

I agree and I think he will get a huge push. Anytime I’ve seen him in anything he’s been great

[@jefqueshoang8075]

This movie hiring Chavo is legit! A legendary wrestling family member to teacher actors about being a wrestling family member is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@TheJeffro451]

There was a time in Dallas when they were more popular than the Cowboys.

[@heyitskim1028]

He is a short king. Great acting great movie!

[@pwn3426]

awesome movie, awesome true story.

[@warpdrivefueledbyinsomnia8165]

It's so awesome that he trained with Chavo. They were in pretty good hands.

[@justinschrank4806]

Best movie I've seen all year

[@barefootlovers]

This guy is the biggest thing since French Toast

[@Beerzilla]

Amazing movie!

[@Ceremony74]

GREAT movie!

[@delrey874]

He's such great actor.

[@KD_SWAGGER]

Big fan of the Von Erich Family. Can't wait to watch The Iron Claw.

[@claymathewselevator8121]

It was great

[@KD_SWAGGER]

@@claymathewselevator8121 I'm sure.

[@leigh7507]

Von Erichs is one of the greatest tragedies in wrestling - I wonder if the film will reflect that

[@scz1770]

That's...... literally the point of the movie

[@Dayna-Punky]

My family moved to Texas in 1980. My dad was a huge wrestling fan so the Von Erichs were everything to us!

[@Liam_Mellon]

Such a good movie

[@sweetpeajade201]

I loved the movie. Was very emotional towards the end. All of these men did a great job but that quote from Kevin just broke my heart. I just wanna give the man a big hug. 🤍

[@nothingissacred96]

I just went to see the movie it was great. My dad is not a wrestling fan at all and he really enjoyed the movie as well. I would def recommend it

[@denny8093]

I knew when i watched shameless that Jermy was going to be around for a long time , and he is here to stay

[@debs11100]

Love Lip so much.

[@forgivemylaughterihaveacon2556]

Great movie

[@Yellow_Flannel]

You nailed it. The movie was perfect.

[@Headroomtalking]

That film was remarkable 🎉

[@philrm99]

Awesome performance he did in the movie

[@donnawells-pk6jx]

Raised with them watched and went to the sport atrium on Friday night so electricity in there have so much respect for kevin

[@saramuchnick2378]

Didn’t Know Chavo Helped Out On The Project .. Great Stuff

[@Thenoble1j]

The movie was great! Everyone should watch it

[@joshnizzle]

Sad what happened to that family. Would be hard to go through so much tragedy

[@husseinbato996]

Best supporting actor

[@fireblazer6661]

Knew nothing about the family (Never followed wrestling, was into Karate in my youth though). Never even heard of the movie. Thought it sounded interesting. Went in with no expectations. Left in stunned awe and a couple watery eyes. Me and my date were both stunned by how good this was. Neither of us know much about wrestling, but a quick google to see what was playing, and a very brief skim online made me give this a shot. Glad I did. One of the best films I've seen in a while.

[@crissranger8925]

Never heard of them which sucked cuz I went down that rabbit hole n whoa they were amazing ! But I watched wrestling with my brothers when wwe was wwf so I was shocked I never heard of them. But so cool they are giving us this movie , it’s so moving so sad but they were great entertainers for sure !!! may they rest in peace 🙏❤

[@maryanndull3446]

My husband and I just watched the film recently. Being a HUGE Von Erich fan back in the day, I was a bit skeptical. I even met Kerry after arranging for him to come visit with Adolescents in the Psych hospital I was working at when he was in town for a wrestling match. Will never forget how Kerry came bounding in larger than life. Make no mistake, he was a big guy.....tall & very muscular. (The photo showed in the clip above did not do him justice.) He was super sweet too. Jeremy Allen White did a nice job portraying Kerry, but to those in the know, he really didn't come close to Kerry's physical size. The film did delivery on their Brotherly love for each other. That was the final take away.

[@omarloera86]

This movie ruled

[@DCXCoorexDakarCoore]

I watched this movie last night ‼️ great movie. I've known about the story way before watching it. It's a must see movie 🎥🍿‼️👍🙏🤘👏🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥

[@mjentertaintment2706]

My head snapped back when I heard Chavo trained them!

[@tabulldog2743]

Good movie if you know the story, great movie if you don’t know the story!!! Great Acting man! Pass it along to the rest of the crew!

[@SJT.IN.KC85]

Von Erichs vs Harts at Survivor series. What could have been, Stu and Fritz as the corner men.

[@jasoncutshaw8401]

Incredible

[@Mario_Gillette]

That would have been a great full circle story, Stu Hart trained Fritz Von Erich in the dungeon.

[@user-rm9zx7ln9i]

Chavo Guerrero, coming off the top rope!

[@Grogfury777]

I loved watching them as a kid of the 80’s. I was 😢 at the end of this movie.

[@claymathewselevator8121]

He was great in the movie

[@jazleens3181]

I could’ve see Zack playing Kerry but I can’t wait to see this

[@txmex664]

Movie was AWESOME!!!!!

[@jacobjohnson117]

The movie gave me more respect for zac efron and jeremy allen white as actors, they did incredible!! An absolutely phenomonal film!!!

[@StoneyHoliday]

He's too small to play the Tornado. But he is a great actor.

[@TheTruth-on5zx]

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too small on the other hand Zac looked great

[@alphanerd7221]

Size isn't that important. If everyone is shorter than their characters it evens out.

[@mastodon193]

I like that he gives credit to Chavo Guerrero for training them

[@joepipito7431]

HAY SETH YOUR FOREHEAD IS GROWING HAHAHAHA FUNNY EH

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Loved The Iron Claw