Latinos And Blacks BOTH CREATED HIP HOP...FACTS

LATINOS And BLACKS BOTH CREATED HIP HOP...KNOCK IT OFF
Latin Hip Hop Pioneer Mr Schick of The Mean Machine joins me to discuss Latinos Contribution to HIP HOP. This is reaction to the Fat Joe viral vid.
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[@chopitupradio4286]

All he did was named a bunch of Latinos that was there in the beginning, but he didn’t name one thing that they created. We never denied Latinos weren’t there, but they didn’t create not one element in HipHop culture. HipHop is not even based in Latino culture.

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

What specific Black man created Hip Hop?

[@Trell100]

What Latino did? Stop moving the goal post. You made this video. You apart of the issue. You asking dumb ass questions like “what one black” the culture is spiritual not one person could do it. It’s a rhythm, a connection that pass down in our DNA!!! Everything blacks do come together when we’re United. Watch we create something else after this. We always do!!!!

[@weare1634]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV 1930's Break Dancing (Mills Brothers - Caravan) and The Jubalaires - Brother Bill

[@weare1634]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV Hello, did you watch the videos. Because I just gave you Proof that blacks/African-Americans created hip-hop. But watch you come up with a lie.

[@evilkirk607]

@@weare1634 These desperate Vulture Culture fools never stop with the lies! Next lie will be they have the greatest basketball players too?

[@livelong6685]

now ya changing the narrative, no one said ya wasn't there, we're saying ya contributed NOT CREATED LOL

[@BoricuaNyc]

But Nuyoricans🇵🇷did create and the truth, footage, photos and videos are at the hip hop museum in the BX 🇵🇷🗽

[@mackking7896]

@@BoricuaNyc 😂 no we have proof. Blacks in the south had been rapping. Even the beats came from funk and soul, all black creations. There is 0 doubt. Be proud of your salsa

[@TheHiphopgems]

@@BoricuaNyc there is zero evidence of Puerto Ricans creating hip hop

[@dontaejohnson4382]

​@@BoricuaNyc I think you on drugs love there wasn't not one puerto rican rapper or mc in the early 70s there wasn't wasn't a puerto rican until 8 to10 years later

[@EVERLASTING12000]

You're doing too much in saying that they contributed, because that there gives them the foothold with their lies. What exactly did they contribute? Because in saying that they contributed, the question beggars, "if Puerto Ricans took away their "contribution" --- whatever that may be, would there still be hip-hop?" And the answer would be yes. You might as well ask if Puerto Ricans had not participated, would there still be hip-hop, and the answer to that is also yes.

[@teeveer1635]

Dusty give us a year? The earlier origins of hip hop is of black American orgins before 1973 . All of the elements . The other groups came after it was invented .You cant disprove that . Many of the latin brothers that came in learned it from Black Americans , You havr some that will tell you they did .They may have contributed but they didnt create hip hop - it wasnt 50/50. Prove it. Grand Master Caz back tracked a few times with this back and forth - even making another video after the one you're talking about how it started with black Americans .No one is denying other groups participation but none of them created the elements or established the culture. Show me proof before 1973.

[@weare1634]

Yea show me the prove

[@mackking7896]

@@weare1634 He gave you proof. James Brown… if you can’t see James Brown and black artists that were similar influences to the direct creation to hip hop then you’re a bit slow. Even before him blacks in the south were rapping to beats and doing floor moves. We created all the popular genres. You should be grateful

[@sterlingturner5420]

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[@channelrawtv777]

@@weare1634 STOP THE LIES.HERES BLACKS IN THE SOUTH BREAKDANCING IN 1894. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWnVpmWve7mUfa8

[@portfolio291]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2eYY4J7nNBpbrM&si=E__fCVp8kHPDdHUU

[@mackking7896]

I’m glad so many FBAs are standing up for their culture. I believe it was a good thing this subject came up because I believe we are starting to think like a unit. Anyhow, we have been the creators of all the popular music genres that are listened to throughout the WORLD. From Blues + Jazz, Rock + Country, to R&B + Soul, to Hip hop + Rap. Not only did we create them we undeniably dominated these. Our greatest Musician is considered to be the greatest in all the modern world - Michael Jackson. We have a rich culture albeit new. While other cultures can date back many many centuries we only have a couple of centuries and during this time we have out shined all (and I’m not on any black supremacy nonsense) it just is. We have too much to be proud of to let people try and take what is ours (Including the CREATION of hip hop)

[@DeeDennis321]

Real talk!

[@10044thousand]

Everything demonic

[@mackking7896]

@@10044thousand wrong! These all were started by our artist expressing themselves and the actual root of these expressions is the church. “Negro Spirituals” - there’s actually recording that go way way back that proves this. Now we don’t have the power to control what hits mainstream and in every race you’re going to have those who will take money to promote degenerate behavior that doesn’t represent the culture. Our music has been - as one might put it “weaponized” against us. However, the genre is not bad and there are plenty of morally great songs from all of the genres FBA have created that the world will enjoy for centuries.

[@TheJayster571]

A lot of FBA outside nyc

[@mackking7896]

@@TheJayster571 yup

[@JohnsonLimerstine]

Hip Hop is Black American Music/Black American Culture and it's something you can never take from us!

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Noone is trying to take it from u. Calm down

[@JohnsonLimerstine]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV I didn't say me I said us sir, Black people, Black culture, Black music and it's pretty much all we have that we can say is ours so there's no need for me to calm down when you're making videos that can provoke people.

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

By "us" do u mean you and me?

[@uptownbladebrown]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV yall didnt create hip hop kzbin.info/www/bejne/anO8coqsd750ga8

[@Super29127]

Stop lying by claiming Latinos created hip-hop is trying to take it…FOH! Latinos always lying & scamming when it comes to black people stuff. FOH! Y’all don’t even invite or like having black people at your Latino Awards…FOH!

[@torynieves3537]

No mexicans didn't start rap bro!!!! They may have watched and emulated what blacks did but they didn't craft it nor were they pioneers. I could say more

[@realone7405]

🗣FACTS💯

[@paxtongay5703]

Mexican are a different race and breed from Authentic Latinos Bruh.

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

You don't even know who started rap. Knock it off

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

You don't even know who started rap. Knock it off

[@torynieves3537]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV Blacks started rap dude!!! And name me any 5 mexican rappers who have influenced rap music worldwide ill wait... Also ask them to bring receipts since they claim they started it. They have none. Everybody is always tryna steal from blacks add their own twists to our inventions and claim it as their and we ain't having it Blacks are the creators and pioneers of every music genre cut it out!!!!! We never got any of our musical talent from anyone!!!

[@gangstaboogie718]

I’m Puerto Rican from the old school era and yes Blacks created Hip Hop. We were there from the birth and because we were neighbors and faced the same struggles of living in the war zone that was NYC in the 60s & 70s, we were allowed to participate & contribute to the culture. Hip Hop may not be our creation but it is our culture. We consume & support the genre and Hip Hop is more than music it is life.

[@BoricuaNyc]

I’m AmeRICAN🇵🇷🇺🇸 and Charlie Chase is a creator and my channel has receipts 🧾 straight from Charlie Chase mouth. 🗽🇺🇸🗽🇵🇷🗽🇯🇲🗽

[@DeeDennis321]

FINALLY TRUTH! 💯 I was also in the South Bronx in the 70s and I concur with everything you say here!

[@JoseBXNY]

I can introduce you to PR from the same era that says otherwise. We was allowed? Under who's authority?? There's not 1 blk am pioneer in hip hop. You either highly mistaken or you're not really PR. The pioneers themselves says yes we did contribute to Hip hops creation. What black created hip hop?? Dj cool Herc is the founding father of hip hop. You gotta do some research because you are very mistaken with who created hip hop.

[@JoseBXNY]

​@@DeeDennis321so was I, and I will tell you the total opposite. There's not 1 blk am pioneer in hip hop.

[@DeeDennis321]

@@JoseBXNY first of all Jose, rap/hip-hop was CREATED BY BLACK PEOPLE TO FIGHT and/or COUNTER RACISM WHITE SUPREMACY. *How many white Hispanics do you Know TODAY, TODAY, TODAY who Fight Racism/white supremacy? ZERO* ! So this Alone should be your PROOF that ZERO Puerto Rocks Created Any Rap/Hip-Hop - CUT IT OUT! 🤨

[@ralphpinkins5619]

Im from the Harlem. Hip hop started in the Bronxdale, projects in Soundview of the Bronx by the Black spades in the early 70's before Grandmaster Flash, before Fat Joe, before Afrika Bambata, before Rock Steady Crew, before Big PUN, Before DJ Charlie Chase..period. It started in Bronxdale and then spread out to Bronx River, Monroe, Soundview and Castle Hill. They used to throw the jams in Rosedal park off Rosedale avenue. It started there first!! They were playing old R&B, Funk and Rock from the late 60's and 70's. LOL They were playing BLACK music...like James Brown or all those STAX records artists from Memphis Tennesee. Jimmy Castor Bunch was a funk band. the group was black with a white drummer. All those break records were from R&B artists not Puerto Rican. The first MC was Cke La Rock a Black guy. Breakdancing started before rock steady crew dude. At the park jams people would dance like james Brown. DO YOUR RESEARCH.

[@OMAR-vk9pi]

I did the research you missing a lot of facts I also had family all over nyc since the 60s Latinos definitely played a role in the culture of hip hop we have today African Americans did play the biggest role in the music and culture though

[@elmascholo13]

the solution here is to do a battle rap.....black rappers vs latino rappers.....i dunno man........nore & uno dos are monsters.........but krs one beats everybody so I guess black wins......depends what krs one thinks

[@namelesintelect4016]

Contributing and creating are two different things! Stop the 🧢! Come up with your own movements and lay claim to those. Hip Hop was created solely by FBA people in america. Not jamaicans, Puerto ricans, caribbeans, or any other group.

[@kinglemuelpodcast]

You guys are so easily mind controlled man. Fat joe said Blacks AND...Key Word AND... Latinos. Obviously it came from Black music. But the point is who were the people that after its inception were doing it all the way up till it became recorded as records? It was BOTH Blacks and Hispanics. Thats why there is footage of it. kzbin.infoYnLp_iYBdPU?feature=share

[@dtownblastinsalvi62]

@@namelesintelect4016 Jamaicans are Caribbeans dumb fuck and not only that FBA? Did you know Puerto Rico is American as well and they have African people there too dumbass how stupid are you FBA y’all are like the racist chicanos who forget and look down on the Latinos who immigrated here disgusting. Latinos and black people are more similar than the FBA claim not to be apparently.🤣🤣

[@TheChurchofAdamandEve]

I want all black people to start mariachi bands….lol……first of all Puerto Ricans may have been there since the beginning but didn’t start it…..second….MEXICANS didn’t rap until they saw us on tv…..facts!!!

[@realone7405]

🗣FACTS💯

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Rap is only one element of hip hop. But that's too deep for u.

[@teeveer1635]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV rap isnt the only element of hip hop .ive been into hip hop since the 80s long after those elements were established and i know that- still show me what element wasnt established by Black Americans first .

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Are u telling me the first person to write graffiti was Black?

[@BoricuaNyc]

Boricuas🇵🇷& Morenos started hip hop culture and the hip hop museum in the BX has the proof, footage, photos and videos 🇵🇷✊🏿🗽🇵🇷✊🏿🗽🇵🇷✊🏿🗽🇵🇷

[@NativeisElla]

The first known graffiti artist in America was named Darryl McCray “Cornbread”he was FBA born out of Philadelphia you guys need to stop lying.

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Look up "Kilroy was here" .

[@NativeisElla]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV embrace your ancestors and culture create your own lines for your people so you can say you contribute to something.

[@NativeisElla]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV this was the only dope Hispanic artist who came close to rapping, Chalino Sánchez. He was a G and I give him credit for the art of rapping only because he wrote gangster Mexican music for himself and others in jail. No one in your culture has come close to this man, no one because your to busy imitating Our shit and not even good at it. Embrace who you are kzbin.info/www/bejne/mn6xc51-YpJqatk

[@woowoo8234]

Shoutout to Cornbread, topcat all fba

[@NativeisElla]

@Eric Rodriguez did I say he created graffiti or he was the first known graffiti artist? Comprehension is the key.

[@DeeDennis321]

You guys are really REACHING with this broadcast 😂. I'm a little older than fat joe and grew up less than 8-Blocks from where joe's family IMMIGRATED to in the South Bronx, NY. I'm a Black American, and I Remember 97% of Puerto Rocks used to be hella racist towards Black persons in the Bronx, from the Late 1970s and On - Shiiiid, PRs are STILL hella racist TODAY. NOW, there were a few PRs there who were Learning from the Creators/Originators. Jamaicans were TOO GOOD for Rap/HipHop back then - STOP THE BS! Puerto Rocks NOR Jamaicans CREATED HipHop! And NO - there was NOT 'just as many Puerto Rocks'. Black people have been Rapping since the 1940s.

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

97% lol. How'd u come up with that specific percentage ?

[@DeeDennis321]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV I was in the South Bronx when PR's were getting into daily skirmishes with Black people, because they were straight racist. I remember digging out a PR girl and her grandmother spewing Racist statements at me in Spanish - I understand Spanglish. I was at the earlier shows with people like Kool G Rap & Polo, BDP, and more in the 80s - 3% PRs were in the crowd.

[@BoricuaNyc]

Boricuas🇵🇷are not immigrants🤣 and NewYorkRicans🇵🇷🗽helped create hip hop culture. You are spreading lies. 🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽

[@DeeDennis321]

@@BoricuaNyc first off Rap was created to BATTLE Racism/white supremacy. MOST of the Boricuas from the New York City area PRACTICE Racism/white supremacy Against Black Americans, even Today. So, HOW IS WHAT YOU SAY LOGICAL? Boricuas ARE IMMIGRANTS. Just because you got here 10 years Before the Jamaicans and Haitians, doesn't make you Native. Black Americans ARE NATIVES/INDIGENOUS, and the SOLE-CREATORS of Rap/HipHop! #PeriodT

[@arod1766]

Blacks are the worst racist of all races. Still doesn’t change the facts. A puertorican dj with 2 black friend created hip hop

[@notsogood9449]

Black People created Hip Hop. Puerto Ricans got involved in Hop Hip after it was created. Stop spreading lies.

[@BoricuaNyc]

Blacks, Black-Ricans🇵🇷, and White-Ricans🇵🇷create hip hop culture 🇵🇷✊🏾🗽🇵🇷✊🏾🗽🇵🇷✊🏾🗽🇵🇷

[@miguelcorleone6633]

Da Bronx created Hip-hop culture....thanks to Afro-americans n NuyuRicans working together. Bronx's ol skool hip-hop music is the real OGs. That's the only hip-hop I rock with.

[@uptownbladebrown]

They kno they didnt create it kzbin.info/www/bejne/anO8coqsd750ga8

[@clockwork9825]

@@James-lu4hb nooooo Rican’s came in later. Y’all were fluent in English back then huh?

[@BoricuaNyc]

@@clockwork9825 NewYorkRicans we’re born in NYC🗽🇵🇷there first language is English🤔🤣

[@llcoolzay100]

What’s with all these lies I’m from the Bronx and I’m still in the Bronx back then Latinos the majority of Latinos did not like black people at all whites and Italians did not black people as original black spades with protected our hoods you may find a few Latinos that hung around but they didn’t appreciate Latino culture they wanted to be apart of black culture Latino culture isn’t hip hop and hip hop isn’t Latino culture this is crazy to think black and Latinos got along even today the older Spanish people still look at black Americans sideways and if you from New York and you saw a black man with a Latino everyone knew they was about to steal or kill smh your vision is real dusty that’s a fact

[@travisbrown6595]

Exactly bro, the only thing Latinos did was copy and vulture off the BLACK Creation of Hip Hop

[@justme7258]

Pigmeat was rapping in the 1920's dummy a black man and ruddy ray more stop it 🤣 black people stated it no matter what . Y'all was there yea okay but stop it

[@themightykingdaron]

What you guys fail to mention in all of these videos was the fact that Fat Joe said that Black's and Latinos created hip-hop 50-50. Why don't you guys ever ask that question when doing your interviews? Blacks and Puerto Ricans used to beef with one another and didn't hand put that much back in the 60's and early 70's. They didn't come to our parties and we didn't go to theirs. They didn't even like our music at first and we was cool with that. The Puerto Ricans that were there in the beginning wasn't waiving their flags and no one even knew that they were Puerto Ricans. Same for the west Indians. Next time you do one of these one sided interviews, ask the question...."did Black's and Latinos create hip hop 50-50"...that's what we have beef with. We never deny that some were there...but 50-50? Stop the cap! When have we EVER needed to go 50-50 with anyone when it comes to our music and swag? Never!

[@KINGKOOKOS]

Here the prob with these blanket black washed statements. You say all black but don’t credit a single person. Y’all just “black people” but the gangs of the bx were already mixed with both races same as the parties pre hip hop. everytime I see videos from the 70s and 80s it’s all Ricans breaking and doing graffiti with a few rappers and djs. What blacks did was called up rocking not breaking, Ricans created what we call mordern day b boying that’s older than rap. Why are all the videos mostly Rican? Blacks didn’t know what cameras were?

[@KINGKOOKOS]

U need to know the 4 elements, djing- blacks did not create that. Graffiti has always existed in nyc to let you know who lives where. Breaking - Ricans credited for inventing the moves we consider breaking. Rapping came last. 2 out of 4 elements = 50% lol

[@sonofjudah535]

Look! I’m 53 years old. The art of “hip hop” was created long before brothas we’re using turn tables.. FACTS!! The word itself “Rap or Rap’n is a Negro term not a Latino term. When you deal with culture, language is part of it. When you listen to the language of hip - hop it’s clearly “Negro” language. And the art of rap’n and rhyming started back in the 40s and 50s in the South by “Negros” FACTS!! So stop with the 70s talk. You guys don’t have the facts you don’t know “Negro” history in Amerikkka!!

[@travisbrown6595]

Exactly bro,,,, straight vulturing

[@NativeisElla]

Craziest thing about all this they never pay homage to their own people culture, music, or civil rights movement. You never hear them talking about their own people. Chalino Sánchez was a G, I grew up in Los Angeles I remember my daddy and uncle‘s talking about this guy he is the closest thing that came to rap in Latino music and he did it in his style of music. I only say this because he wrote gangster songs for himself and other gangsters in jail and his music was so controversial they wouldn’t play it on the radio, he had to sell tapes out the trunk of his car. You never hear them talking about their people.

[@tyrn25]

That's what you call a creator.

[@goudagalindo1790]

Black people at that time didn’t like hip hop. It was a rebellious thing kids were doing at the time. Back in the day I was showing black people my tape collection and they didn’t know who they were. Latinos and white kids grew up on NWA, Ice T. That was supposedly an issue that crowds at their shows were mostly non white. Even modern Hip Hop artist don’t respect Pac or Biggie. Latinos always pay homage to the ancestors.

[@tyrn25]

What did Chalino Sanchez create?

[@goudagalindo1790]

@@tyrn25 some of the best gangster coridos/ Banda music. He’s a real mf G.

[@NativeisElla]

@@tyrn25 He created music, wtf do you mean what did he create?

[@jermainepeters5702]

Black Americans let anybody in to our culture that's why we are going through this now

[@botank9198]

I cannot stop laughing what is this the Twilight Zone. It was FBA. Not no damn Latino. We are not falling for the liar.

[@KINGKOOKOS]

Ain’t no damn fba in the Bronx lol

[@AnimalAlmighty]

@@KINGKOOKOSIt was when hip hop was created. Hell it was more whites then PRs back then🤔

[@QuatMan]

Black Americans ALONE fixed that Hip Hop plate. Puerto Ricans ate off that plate like they have never had any food before. Puerto Ricans created Hip Hop like Adele created R&B.Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

[@KINGKOOKOS]

Name?

[@QuatMan]

@@KINGKOOKOS School?

[@KINGKOOKOS]

@@QuatMan names of people who created hip hop?

[@QuatMan]

@@KINGKOOKOS Yes, these people have names😉

[@KINGKOOKOS]

@@QuatMan yeah they all have names if u knew who was there but you don’t

[@heyelights897]

Hip hop started before latinos even knew what it was. How you gonna start something with a race of people you hate? Stop the cap.

[@jeffking220]

"My name is Ruby D and im a Puerto Rican, You might think Im Black by the way that Im speakin". Fantastic 5 MC's wildstyle.

[@BoricuaNyc]

RIP🙏Ruby👑 Dee 🎤🇵🇷🗽

[@truthhurts6327]

Am Puerto Rican to 💯

[@TheDonMostro]

that tells you that Rudy D assimilated into black american culture

[@jeffking220]

And it was a good thing that he did assimilate into our culture..like Herc did. Wonderful. But do not disrespect by saying you created our culture.

[@TheDonMostro]

@@jeffking220 black american created hiphop

[@sterlingturner5420]

No they did not! Blacks started hip hop first and Latinos influence came later in the late 70s..if they research they would know that breakdancing lost its popularity with black kids thats when latinos picked it up....hip hop started in 1973

[@ralphpinkins5619]

cuz black kids didnt want to get their fresh, new clothes dirty, spinning on the ground. You cant get fly like that.

[@sterlingturner5420]

@@ralphpinkins5619 actually another of boys starting shifting toward the rap element of hip hip

[@sterlingturner5420]

@@ralphpinkins5619 kzbin.info/www/bejne/anO8coqsd750ga8

[@KINGKOOKOS]

Picked it up or was already there past present future? Lol

[@robluv4592]

Whites were grahfitti rap music also.8n 1980s.wake up

[@jonathancowley1758]

Just because we let Latinos in the party don't mean they got the party started

[@livelong6685]

so he never heard of pigmeat markham and james brown or jubilaires in the 1920s

[@BoricuaNyc]

We talking about hip hop culture not just music or singers🤣

[@terrencemalone2110]

@@BoricuaNyc lmao You’re delusional what did Puerto Ricans create don’t tell me to go to some music and I want you to tell me

[@BoricuaNyc]

@@terrencemalone2110 They create everything in hip hop culture

[@NativeisElla]

@@BoricuaNyc james brown had the word RAP in his songs. Something is wrong with you people to even think you help create rap when NO ONE ON THIS PLANET CAN NAME ONE MEXICAN or Puerto Rican who sold out Arenas and known around the world as a RAPPER. And that’s pretty pathetic if you guys were the creators and you still at point A trying to get your wack ass music out ain’t nobody listening to that bull💩.

[@terrencemalone2110]

@@BoricuaNyc Tell me what be more Pacific And what’s the names and years

[@bobbyschannel349]

There's a difference between rapping and being there at the parties, and even break dancing, as opposed to starting it up creating it, You didn't create it. You were there, but you didn't create it.

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

What person created break dancing? Gimme a name.

[@bobbyschannel349]

there ain't no name, it's a collection of people.

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Since there is a collection it should be easier for you to give me one name. Just one name please of who created breakdancing . And it's OK if u don't know

[@bobbyschannel349]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV you tell me.

[@bobbyschannel349]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV first and foremost, breakdancing goes back in the Black American society since like the 1930s and 40s... that style of dancing is something that is cultural with inside the Black American community. black Americans invented almost every dance in the united states, It going back to the charleston, to the Lindy hop, to the cabbage patch, The Running Man to the dab.. nobody knows who started the cabbage patch, nobody knows who started the RoboCop dance, but the fact of the matter is is that black Americans have created dances all throughout American history. Michael Jackson did not create the moonwalk, that came from Black American street dancers that he was influenced by. Not one person created the blues, it was a collection of black people from the Delta and louisiana..... that's like I asking me who created r&b, Or who created jazz, it was a collection of black American artists, musicians, and entertainers.... knock it off!!!

[@10044thousand]

I’m Puerto Rican, I regret ever embarrassing hip hop. Yahweh is coming soon. Repent or Perish!!

[@mackking7896]

No one cares what you are ma’am. This is getting cringe and embarrassing

[@lovelymix8056]

You mean embracing?

[@AJ-pc5ln]

Hip-hop is not derived from any type of Puerto Rican music. Hip-hop breaks are mixed Black American Funk and Soul songs. How did Puerto Ricans create Hip-hop when it ain't based off anything from their culture 🤔 Even the dances Black Americans are on videos doing all of that in the 1940s.

[@sahulianhooligan7046]

Funk came from Caribbean polyrhythms of New Orleans, you can hear "the one" in early 1940s Afro-Cuban jazz. James Brown said he first heard funk in 1950s from the group Upsetters who were hired as Little Richard's road band. Several members from this group came from New Orleans and brought 'the one' element into Little Richard's rock music. When Little Richard left rock music to do gospel in 1960s, James Brown capitalised by hiring Upsetters members for his band and funk took off.

[@AJ-pc5ln]

@@sahulianhooligan7046 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Lies Funk comes from Black American Soul music like literally right out of Soul music. This is the lies and 🧢 that I'm talking about. "New Orleans" Jazz comes from Black American Ragtime, Work Songs, Spirituals, and Blues. It was Black Americans in New Orleans that gave birth to Jazz.

[@Arcangel1976]

You sound ignorant af. If you knew anything about the Bronx in the 70s, you wld know the Puerto Ricans(Americans)were in the hood w so called Black & West Indian ppl. They were in the same community & they came together to make it happen. Why are you so slow to understand that it wasn’t every Puerto Rican Nor was it every black person that partook in creating Hip Hop. It was select group of ppl that were black & Puerto Rican. Simple to understand but y’all emotional af. It wasn’t just RAP. There were other elements of Hip Hop (DJing, Graffiti & Breakdancing). Now look at the history of those elements & u will see clearly that Puerto Ricans most Definitely helped to create Hip Hop. Anybody says different go jump off a bridge!

[@sahulianhooligan7046]

@@AJ-pc5ln Jazz came from the Haitian slaves that played in Congo Square when New Orleans was owned by the French

[@AJ-pc5ln]

@@sahulianhooligan7046 Thats lies. Jazz comes from Black American Culture. Just because France owned Louisiana does not make Louisiana Creoles Haitians. I'm Louisiana Creole and we are not Haitians. Those enslaved in Congo Square were Black Americans enslaved under the French Empire. Louisiana and Saint Domingue(Haiti) Were 2 French colonies. Louisiana Creoles/Black Americans and Haitians are not the same people.

[@paxtongay5703]

Man, I'll be 53 in March of 2023, and this right chere' was BUMPIN' in Dallas,TX. I was in the 6th grade,and the prominence of Sugar Hill Records was in FULL EFFECT! That Pull it to the Bumper by Grace Jones that they sampled was Dope, and before it's time.

[@ValThaVoiceVTV]

Black and Nuyoricans created hip Hop ..And it’s been validated by many ..Anyone trying to discredit it are just trolls and racist against Latinos and hating ....don’t address me cause I’m ignoring you ...You can be anything you want on the world Don’t be a hater 😂

[@EVERLASTING12000]

No they did not. Black and Puerto Ricans did not creaste hip-hop togehter anymore than Blaxck ans puerto ricans created funk, soul/r&b, jazz, disco, and any and all other American mjsical genres that was completely and solely created by FBAs.

[@THETRAVELGOD410]

I’m not taking anything away from our Rican Brother’s and Sisters but, it wasn’t 50/50! The truth is they were invited respectfully when Hip Hop was already established! As Black Americans we have no National Archive on family history or census records! Our Music is our Historical Record that has documented our struggles! Black Americans created everything that has to do with Soul Music and culture! Black Americans are just saying “ Hip Hop is technically a small bi product musically and culturally that already existed in Black Music!

[@IcedOutReek]

Nah Cas said it was just a handful..not going to say 50/50 but we definitely was there in them same neighborhood and parties..mostly every first hip hop crew had Rican’s in it they were just darkskin..definitely not guest but not co creators ..you can say we are brothers to hip hop or cousins

[@EVERLASTING12000]

@@IcedOutReek YOU GUYS CALLE DIT JUNGLE BUNNY MUSIC. DJ Charlie Chase even said this. He was ostracized by pother PRs for listening and playing it. Now you all want to claim it. GTFOH.

[@KINGKOOKOS]

I’m going with the kids from the bx gangs at the time which is? Rican and black lol

[@EVERLASTING12000]

@@KINGKOOKOS I have a question for you. Who created LATIN HIP-HOP?

[@KINGKOOKOS]

@@EVERLASTING12000 no clue never heard of that can u name some “Latin hip hop “ artist lol

[@ValThaVoiceVTV]

We have trolls on here who are not even from Ny with opinions on hip hop origins and history …. If you didn’t grow up in NY in the 7ps and 80s your hip hop history is questionable . I’ have relationships and have interviewed many hip hop legends and historians .I’ve done radio .hip hop concert promotions etc.I’ve interviewed caz and dj disco wiz . There’s a difference in bashing your view on facts and whet you feel … from early 70s PRs have been a dominate presence in hip hop along side black brothers . We are Nuyo ricans . Hip hop was created by Blacks and Puerto Ricans in the 70s and 80s and today it belongs to know one it has transcended all races and countries ..it’s not even black music or culture today it’s pop culture . Don’t be a hater cause we are the co creators

[@BoricuaNyc]

Facts

[@bernardwade8096]

Dude fuck NY the only thing NY did was gave it a name even wikipedia won't even say Latinos created hiphop.

[@kaykayjohnson9427]

If you did not grow up in the 60s, you don't know the real history.

[@OriginalKing100]

cool...post the link of the interviews...or show what yall created. I mean you got all this proof.

[@EVERLASTING12000]

"We have trolls on here who are not even from Ny with opinions on hip hop origins and history …. If you didn’t grow up in NY in the 7ps and 80s your hip hop history is questionable ." It's funny that you would say this. Because the one who came up with the LIE that Kool Herc created hip-hop, was a Asian man of immigrant background, that was born and raised in HAWAII. He's the one that interviewed Herc, and then proclaimed him as the creator of hip-hop, and that date and place as the birthdate of hip-hop. Herc himself NEVER said he created hip-hop, and still hasn't to this day.

[@ManofSteel216OC]

FBA period . No need to keep having these conversations unless we want to really see who started Salsa or Bachata etc. Let's go down that well.

[@KINGKOOKOS]

I see u have an FBA education in ignorance Hahaa

[@ValThaVoiceVTV]

Let’s be clear to all the haters and racist on here 1. If your not from NY your have an ignorant opinion without facts . 2. If your under 45 your hip hop knowledge is questionable . Now let’s get to it ! Dj disconwiz the 1st Puerto Rican dj who I’ve interviewed and know personally was suing in 1975 at hip hop event with his partner grand master caz if you don’t know who caz is be quiet ! Charlie chase was part of the cold crush crew one is the earliest hip hop groups in the bx watch wild style the doc from 1981 . Hip hop was created in the Bronx and it’s urban culture ! In the 70s and 80s blacks and Puertoricans grew up side by side and had the same urban culture . We are called Nuyoricans for everyone out of Ny who don’t know . Puertoricans have always been part of hip Hop from day 1 and the majority in the bboy and break dancing scene . We pushed it forward and many of the most recognized graff artist in the 70s and 80s were puertorican and white actually ... graffiti,breaking,emceeing and djing are the 4 elements of hip Hop and sorry to say not only black people created it ... not to mention the contributions to hip hop . Prince marky dee ,DMC, FAt hoe,Big pun and of course the legend Mr schick of the legendary sugar hill records ..I can go on for days but when your filled with bias facts don’t matter ....Don’t be haters cause PRs are the co creators !!!

[@EVERLASTING12000]

"graffiti,breaking,emceeing and djing are the 4 elements of hip. Hop and sorry to say not only black people created it." You all created NOTHING. Those people you named came LATER. Hip-hop didn't start in 1975. Charliue Chase did not create any form of hip-hop, and he would tell you that. You talking about Caz, but King Mario, DJ Pete Jones, and Kool DJ Dee were before all of them. We can go back to the 60s with this. It is the height of absurdity to suggest that Latinos/Puerto Ricans helped create a genre of music that EXCLUSIVELY used Foundational Black American Funk, Jazz, and R&B music. There is NO PUERTO RICAN culture/music invovled in hip-hop. There is a reason as to why James Brown, Geoege Clinton/Parliament Funkadelic, Sly and the Family Stone are the most sampled artists in hip-hop. Show us the Puerto Rican artists and music that is widely sampled in hip-hop? Hell. More white rock and roll artists are sampled in hip-hop than Puerto Rican artists. What sense does it make for a people that created hip-hop, but uses another people's music as the foundation, as opposed to their own? HIP-HOP IS ABOUT THE MUSIC. PERIOD. You cannot get away from it. The musical foundation of hip-hop is Funk, Jazz, Soul/R&B, and Disco. The break beats created by James Brown. There is no salsa, bomba, plena in hip-hop.

[@djvegas1477]

🎯The key word is created and not contribute ☝🏾🎧🤚🏾🎤 We were there Participating in what the Blacks were doing….😎

[@hiphopculturetv7744]

Laughable

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Just like the name of your channel.

[@BoricuaNyc]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV Good one🤙🤣

[@hiphopculturetv7744]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV I don't have a "channel" says the person that calls himself "dusty". Latinos walking outside and doing what their black friends are doing is not co creating.

[@hiphopculturetv7744]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV what in hip hop would not have taken place if not for Latinos. Latinos can be a good DJ, rapper, break dancer, graffiti artist. No one is denying that. What did Black people say or do that says nope. I need to do this like the Latinos are doing it. What?

[@mrchopp100]

They keep saying the same few people. Much respect to them but they didn’t CREATE HIP HOP. They were involved and contributed which no one is questioning. Fat Joe and whoever else behind the funny style movement to change history for some particular reason is wrong. No one would be tripping if Fat Joe would have said Latinos who were involved or some of the first Latino rap artist (which he used to say in prior interviews). All of a sudden they created it, stop jocking our culture when we don’t say anything about y’all’s

[@KINGKOOKOS]

So where were the Puerto Ricans at during the birth? WhT were they doing. U want to see what the Bronx looked like the year hip hop was born look at the rubble kings doc

[@TheHiphopgems]

@@KINGKOOKOS there were listening to salsa and merengue which is actual Puerto Rican culture

[@KINGKOOKOS]

@@TheHiphopgems it’s not, the first salsa bands started in nyc not Puerto Rico at the same time as hip hop in the 70s and merengue is Dominican. Nuyoricans did hip hop before it was called hip hop at a time when Blacks were in disco clubs dancing like John travolta lol it was 14 year old black Caribbean and Latino poor kids in the bx that was doing hip hop

[@TheHiphopgems]

@@KINGKOOKOS there is no record of any Latinos creating hip hop, the record shows that Puerto Ricans PARTICIPATED in hip hop after it was created. Hip hop is based on funk/soul and disco which are black American musical genres which is why hip hop is a black American musical genre

[@OriginalKing100]

@@KINGKOOKOS LOL!! Dancing like Travolta.....look at Soul Train in 71....

[@chinablack9790]

Yall gotta stop this! I was there in the beginning, and there was NO 50/50!!! There are interviews with some of the Puerto Rican rappers and DJ's who were there in the early 70's, who are honest enough to tell you that it was started by African Americans!!

[@ChamP10nk1ng]

It's absolutely CRINGY having people who are not from NYC/NJ in the 70s & early 80s saying that Boricuas were not alongside Black folk when it comes to the origin of hip Hop. Just watch films like Wild-Style, Style Wars, Beat Street, Breakin', & the proof is in the pudding. Point blank, if you weren't from that era & area, STFU or go play in the middle of traffic.

[@jayjones251]

But there are people from that era saying they weren't involved.

[@KINGKOOKOS]

@@jayjones251 the people that were there say wild style is the most accurate depiction of the genesis of hip hop

[@jayjones251]

@@KINGKOOKOS only latinos are saying that.

[@patrickgillis4327]

Gotta be something in the water wtf

[@chiefj90]

Break dancing.. created by blacks. They have a video of that dance in the 40s, DJ ing blacks created it, MC-ing blacks were rhyming in the 50s, Graffiti not sure. Show me a video where other races were doing that before. Cuz you can pull those videos up of blacks doing that before the 70s.

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Black people created "rhyming"? Lol. I'm dying

[@chiefj90]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV as far as rhyming like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5fCfGeqoN-se8k yes

[@teeveer1635]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV disprove him. Rhyming In the context of rap was created by black americans too .As a matrer of fact , the musical context of the word " Rap" comes from black Americans as well . The first time the term was used to describe a style of music on record was by the group Watts Prophets , Even way before that we had the Jubaliers and various blues guys were rhyming in the cadence of what many rappers think of style wise when it comes to the rhyming in the hip hop context. Rapping predates hip hop . Brings receipts instead of laughs

[@thelastdon9000]

Yeah bruh we didn't create rhyming smh

[@BoricuaNyc]

They were Black-Ricans🇵🇷that look like Roberto Clemente-✊🏿🇵🇷, and Alpo Martinez-✊🏾🇵🇷 Boricuas🇵🇷come in all shades✊🏾✊✊🏿✊🏻✊🏽✊🏼🇵🇷

[@jonathancowley1758]

But if Latinos was such a influence on hip hop why wasn't it promoted as much as African culture throughout the 80s and 90s🤔 From Afrikka Bambataa to the Roots... You had some other races sprinkled in. But Hip hop was synonymous with Negros. We didn't copy mannerisms from anyone else but the black pimps and players. From the bop in our walk and raising a black fist when we talk is all African American culture.

[@KINGKOOKOS]

Are you talking about hip hop or the record business? Lol Jews never gave Latinos record deals they had to kick in the door

[@mrt445]

The majority of people saying it's only young people claiming that Latinos weren't involved are wrong. Black people who were around back then also say Ricans had nothing to do with the creation of hip-hop and they're right. Same goes for Mexicans and other Latinos.

[@brucearmstead364]

I’m 50 years old, hip hop was created by Blk Americans my man, no disrespect to PR but all elements was started by black people, it wasn’t until later in late 70s,80s Latinos and other races got involved. 1 Dj Mario FBA 2 MCing Theodore 3 BBOY Black Spades / Baby Zulus FBA 4’ gariffie Cornbread 5 knowledge of self. Your commentator was on point on some of things but Latinos didn’t create hip hop they contributed in the culture. If it was 50/50 you would have all elements English and Spanish from the start!!

[@KINGKOOKOS]

1. Dj king Mario best friend he did parties with was - Dj Hollywood who was Rican. 2. The first rap groups from the 70s all had Ricans which predated the first rap song. 3. U have the ghetto brothers and gangs from the Bronx that were early hip hop. And graffiti has been around decades before cornbread plenty of videos from nyc in the 40s. And um I don’t remember hearing african lyrics from the start either so hold us to the same standards. Salsa is what migrants from pr did, foundational Puerto Ricans from the bx did hip hop lol

[@markknight2473]

Stop playing word games !!! Being there as the 1st Witness does Not mean Created 🎯

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

U don't even know who created hip hop do u? Give me a name

[@markknight2473]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV Don't try to change the Narrative. Why do y'all keep using the we were there nonsense ? People know you was there watching, then participating 🎯. Now What Mystery Latinos Created half of Hiphop ???🤔

[@teeveer1635]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV Heres spme names by element 1.Rap : Joe Hill Louis, Jubaliers Pig Meat Markam, etc. 2 Dj - , Grand Master Flowers, Grand Wizard Theodore ( the kid who invented scratching ) 3 Hip hop Graffiti - Darryl "CornBread " McCray , Ali , Phase 2 4 Breakin- lindy hoppers , Nichaolas Brothers, James Brown ; first of boboys- Spy, the N*gga Twins etc 5. Knowledge -Any true hip hop head knows the Nation of gods and earths ( the 5 percenters ) ) influenced that element. They also inflienced things in hip hop lingo and style - including the "beboy stance" The person that started the 5 percenters was Clarence X13 All of those who establushed hip hop were black anericans. They were the foundations of what became staple in hip hop. Im not excluding the participation of others on saying that - none of us are . They didn't create hip hop .The names i listed literally did.these - they eatablished the elemets , these are just SOME of the names btw. .Have a nice day.

[@BoricuaNyc]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV Don’t pay these haters any attention. And thanks a million for interviewing a LEGEND👑🇵🇷 🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

@@BoricuaNyc thank u

[@chaniquasmith6258]

Black Americans created hip hop not Hispanics. Just stop!

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Define a "Black American"

[@BoricuaNyc]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV Alpo Martinez 🤣✊🏿🇵🇷🇺🇸-Black-American

[@jayjones251]

@Dusty Vision TV - DVTV a descendant of American chattel slavery.

[@EVERLASTING12000]

"a descendant of American chattel slavery." ---@@jayjones251 He's trying to play dumb and attempt to muddy the waters. The correct term is Foundational Black American or FBA for short. By merely saying Black American, people like this Dusty who is Puerto Rican can lay claim to that. He's likely Afro-Puerto Rican, by him being Puerto Rican, that makes him an American, and him being an Afro-Puerto Rican, he can lay claim to being Black. So in combination, he can say that he's Black American. Immigrants from Jamaica, Africa, ect. that becvome American citizens, then by defualt become Black Americans.This is why Tariq came up with the designation of Foundational Black American to eliminate the confusion. The Foundational part applies to us being the foundation of America via U.S.A. chattal slavery, ansd thus gives us a foundation for our claim for Reparations against the U.S.A. Many black immigrants and PRs, are up in arms over this because as a result they are not able to latch on our claim for Reparations because they are not of the American chattal slavery system. Foundational Black American...as defined, they cannot latch onto that.

[@tayluc777]

You don’t know anything bro, Spoken Word is an earlier form of hip hop, the early 70s. Hip Hop wasn’t invented in 1979!

[@raykane2063]

Fat Joe is WRONG . Most Puerto Ricans did not like Blacks back then. I remember 3 Latinos but they came later. MC Ruby Dee, Dj Charlie Chase and Prince Whipper Whip. The hard work and sweat of Black contributions to society have a history of being stolen. Just ask the Black tictok creators. Peace☮.

[@Factsoverfeelings4593]

Name one element of hip hop Latinos created and I’ll cash app you $1000 - just adding to my original comment so people can clearly see what question I asked

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Created...or helped create?

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Patiently waiting for your response. Or we can speed this up if u DM me on IG. @dusty vision. I will donate your $1000 to a non profit. Thanks

[@Factsoverfeelings4593]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV yes either or

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Helped create. Charlie Chase. Do u need my cashapp info?

[@Factsoverfeelings4593]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV and what exactly did he help create or co create? We are not giving out participation trophy so….?

[@In_A_Different_Fashion]

I think whomever help build this culture we call Hip-Hop should be celebrated. The history of Hip-Hop has been distorted from the start and the more and more you hear about it. There’s debates about where it started or who did this and that first, etc, etc. The sad thing is if you weren’t there you just have to try to connect the dots to the truth or what you think might be the truth. I appreciate everyone’s contribution that was doing it in the infant stages because all the elements (Graffiti Writers, MC’s, DJ’s, B-Boys & let’s not forget Boxboxin’) were all needed to get us to where we are now.

[@bernardwade8096]

Latinos didn't have anything to do with the creation of hip hop. Stop the cap.

[@ralphpinkins5619]

Hip Hop came from two elements Firstly in the 70s when Gang violence in New York resulted too many gang related Deaths All the Gangs agreed to a Sit down and the result was a truce (Hoe Avenue Peace Meeting over the death of Black Benjie a peace keeper of the Ghetto Brothers. The peace meeting was organize by the ghetto brothers after one of their members 25-year old Cornell "Black Benjie" Benjamin former junkie turned drug counselor was killed trying to stop a gang fight. The Ghetto Brothers were a gang (or club) and music group[1] founded in New York City's South Bronx in the late 1960s even before the black spades. The gang eventually spread to much of the Northeastern United States. Like the Young Lords, they were involved in Puerto Rican nationalism, including, in the case of the Ghetto Brothers, an association with the then-new Puerto Rican Socialist Party. This gang had political motivation to uplift young Latino and Black men in the community.) which led to Gangs throwing Street block parties to bond locals to their Gangs. Basically these gangs traded beatdowns for b-boying and rap battles, sowing the seeds of a bourgeoning hip hop movement that would expand past new york half a decade later. Disco was played at these parties and Dedications made start/ stop over the music. as Gang members talk on the mic over Disco and funk . Also Carolina Dj Kool Dee started bringing out his sound system sets. Kool Dee was the president of the division 1st Chapter Black Spade . Much later on DJ Kool Herc brought his set to the West Bronx and played Disco , Cubans bongo music, and funk . DJ Herc, influenced by his Jamaican Uncle, ran with a reggae sound. Herc played in the Reggae Sound system style but abandoned Reggae for more uptempo percussive sounds and break downs . The reggae Sounds system style of jacking up the tunes and mcing between the tunes influenced the way sound system played . Also Queens and Brooklyn Disco style of music were the earliest rhythms . Many influences came up the river from the South . Puerto Ricans/ghetto brothers, puerto rican nationalist groups, gangs were around .. doesnt mean they created hip hop. And all this is before the Prince Whippper Whip, Rock Steady crew, and DJ Charlie Chase that all Puerto Ricans like to mention as the earliest puerto rican hip hop creators. DJ Cool Herc was of jamaican descent and was around but he aint create hip hop. And the most insulting part of Puerto Ricans & Jamaicans trying to claim hip hop as their own is that all the information is readily available for you online , just do your research. But they rather lie and try to rewrite history.

[@truthsaviour8804]

The foundational element of hip hop is the music. Without it you have no breaking or rap. Those two art forms are still the most popular aspects of hip hop culture today. Without questions, those artforms comes from FBA. None of those two art forms come from Puerto Rico or Jamaica. Did Herc create the speakers? Of couse not. Your reaching my brother. There's no 50/50.

[@KINGKOOKOS]

@@truthsaviour8804 u sound crazy, that’s equivalent to me saying no of those art forms came out of Africa 🤦🏻‍♂️ it came out the Bronx by the young ass kids from the hood lol I’ve been New York my whole life I never seen an all black anything in the Bronx yet

[@truthsaviour8804]

@KINGKOOKOS you sound dumb. No one ever said it was all black. The foundation of the culture is black anerican. If you look at the so-called elements that are considered hip hop, it's not seen historically in Caribbean culture.

[@Fistofflames]

Not facts

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Facts.

[@BoricuaNyc]

BIG FACTS🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽🇵🇷🗽

[@Fistofflames]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV Zero facts

[@Fistofflames]

@@James-lu4hb I know. Why are you tagging me about this?

[@uptownbladebrown]

This is wild sad...these dudes really out here making false claims smfh its pathetic really n none of them can back up their claims....all they say is we were there 🤣

[@cedricroney1475]

What elements did Latinos add?

[@OMAR-vk9pi]

Graffiti dj and breakdancing

[@cedricroney1475]

@@OMAR-vk9pi We were already doing all of that.

[@EVERLASTING12000]

"Graffiti dj and breakdancing." --- @@OMAR-vk9pi That's a lie. FBAs were break dancing as early as 1894 ON FILM. Show us the PRs that were doing it at that time. FBAs been DJing since the 40s. You PRs arrived in the mid to late 50s. Grafitti, Cornbread started that. So come again. YOU CREATED NOTHING.,

[@KINGKOOKOS]

@@EVERLASTING12000 well than we might as well say Latinos we’re breaking in Brazil in the 1600s 👀👀👀

[@EVERLASTING12000]

@@KINGKOOKOS Can you show proof of it? You have any video footage? If that's the case show us video footage of Latinos break dancing BEFORE the 1970s. Show us Latinos break dancing in video in the 1960s, 1950s, 1940s, etc.

[@travisbrown6595]

Take away the black creation of Hip Hop and just play the Latino created parts and what would we have today???? NOTHING resembling Hip Hop whatsoever!!!

[@williemo44]

Puerto Rico is part of the Caribbean. Cool Herc is from Jamaica and first created hip hop from a music perspective so in that fact hip hop came from the Caribbean. Graffiti Art definitely had plenty of Latinos doing it. Breakdancing and Beat Boys had Latinos. If you was in the Bronx in the 70s and 80s, you created hip hop-regardless of your race. The other Burroughs got a taste of what the Bronx did because they were only a short train ride away and joined into the culture.

[@TheHiphopgems]

Herc did not invent hip hop and hip hop is not Jamaican, hip hop came from funk and soul which is black American music and it's the music that herc played. Hip hop came from a black gang called the black spades. It had nothing to do with Puerto ricans or Jamaicans

[@dorothycrawley3327]

Stop the LIES..You culture VULTURES!!!!..Neither Jamaicans nor Puerto Ricans created rap and Hip Hop..black Americans brought the music from the South to the North..

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

What is a "Black" American?

[@TheHiphopgems]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV black americans are the people that descended from american slaves

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

@@TheHiphopgems one of my best friends family is from Dominican Republican. He is darker than Wesley Snipes. He personally identifies himself as "Black". You're telling me he's wrong because his family is from the DR?

[@MAXIMA347]

The idea of HIP-HOP started in the 1970s with the The Black Spades ♠️ from Bronx Dale, if your not talking that your not talking history if you cant admit that. Now Puerto Ricans contributed but they didn't create at that time early 70s Puerto Ricans that look black was there but it was very small and didn't act Puerto Rican, at that time Puerto Ricans and Black did not get along they actually called what we know as HIP-HOP jungle music, they didn't come along till later.

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Black spades had Puerto Rican members. Tex and Wild Child are 2 that come to mind off the top of my head.

[@OriginalKing100]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV those are the only two you know. lol

[@KINGKOOKOS]

Ummm… it started with the ghetto bros and blacks spades calling a gang truce and throwing “sock hops” in the bx which later that summer gave birth to “hip hop” lol

[@yessir8805]

Thumps down on this video. You guys need us FBA 🇺🇸💪🏽🤣

[@kingtrilloriginal6967]

We all know Nore and Jim Jones are Puerto Rican But I credit Latinos

[@realdeal139]

This dude speaking facts. If you weren’t from the south bronx where hip- hop started then you are not part of the creation of hip-hop. That includes people from the south, west, etc, no matter your race. The place where hip- hop began consists mainly of blacks and Puerto Rican’s and therefore both groups shared the culture. Many ignorant comments being made from people who don’t understand the demographics during that era

[@Fistofflames]

Hip hop was created before the bronx

[@realdeal139]

@@Fistofflames bs, in your dreams. We all know it started in the south boogie. It’s well documented

[@commonsenseisnowasuperpowe5275]

We won't let you Latinos steal our culture

[@uptownbladebrown]

Im from nyc n yall wasnt there in the beginning kzbin.info/www/bejne/anO8coqsd750ga8

[@Super29127]

No both groups didn’t share the culture…because back then there were Latino gangs running around with swazstikas on there jackets and the basis of hip-hop was started through the gangs, organizing to combat racism from Italians, PRs, cops, and other stuff. Wouldn’t hire black people, none a that but they’d hire the PRs. So FOH with that BS that Latinos shared the culture. Latinos hated it…and didn’t get involved really until like 78, and the early 80s what they learned from black Americans. I’, 🇯🇲 and from the Boogeydown and even I know this BS that y’all Latinos trying to claim is exactly that BS FOH! That’s why Latinos now copying reggae…calling it reggaeton and can’t even do that right cause nobody want to hear the same dam beat on every song. If Latinos had anything to do with hip-hop y’all would do a better job of at least changing the beat up in reggaeton…can’t even do that. Much respect to my FBA brothers who has always lead the way in everything.

[@hiddenmasterinfinite]

Being there and creating is two different things yall know that right ......NO LATINo NO LATINA CREATED ANYTHING IN HIP-HOP OR RAP PERIOD..... STAY IN YAL PLACE PLEASE.......YALL HAVE SALSA..... WE DONT WONT IN....... WE WAS THERE TOO........ NO DABS ON THIS ONE ......I LOVE YALL THO

[@Tony-nj9de]

NY Caribbeans created hip hop!

[@KINGKOOKOS]

We have bomba too which is African music and dance y’all don’t even have so what? We had teach blacks in America African culture and history lol

[@EVERLASTING12000]

"NY Caribbeans created hip hop!" ---@@Tony-nj9de No they did not.

[@EVERLASTING12000]

@@KINGKOOKOS Y'all fuckers didn't teach us shit. What the hell you talking about? Funny as tpo how you claim to have taught us African culture, but yet you Puerto Ricans did not refer to yourselves as Africans. FBAs were the ones the embraced being called African. FBAs were the ones created and embraced the concept of Pan-Africanism. Not you damn Puerto Ricans. FBAs created a Pan-African holiday called Kwanzaa. Show me the Puerto Ricans with African or African-sounding names, that you would find among FBAs.

[@sdatkb]

Graffiti wasn’t a part of hip hop and had nothing to do with it

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Someone doesn't know their hip hop history. Graffitti is LITERALLY one of the elements of hip hop. Ding dong

[@Brother_Dre1900]

Okay, so...are you saying that Latinos of African descent were 50% of the creation of rap music? Lastly, what did these Latinos specifically bring, or invent, in rap/hip-hop music.

[@BoricuaNyc]

Thanks for this history👑 I’m about to be 53 and I grew up hip hop and my favorite days were in Roxy’s and the BX at my sisters crib. My favorite group was”Fat Boys” they were always so happy and funny. RIP🙏Markie Dee 🎤🇵🇷 RIP🙏🏾Buffy🎤✊🏾

[@mikelee9612]

You on every platform teathering bro.😂😂

[@travisbrown6595]

Stop saying Latinos “Help create Hip Hop, Show me where an entire neighborhood of Latinos ONLY threw hip hop block parties complete with DJ’s MC’s giant speakers 🔊 mixing the break beats of funk records, break dancing 🕺 and not playing any Latin music whatsoever with no blacks around AT ALL iN THE 70’s!!! Show me where that happened once and I’ll say ok y’all created it.

[@OMAR-vk9pi]

The same hoods in nyc with black people is filled with Puerto Ricans and Dominicans you stupid?

[@issy2luv350]

2:50 Yup. My mother is Mexican and looks extra white. Green eyes. Blonde hair, etc. I have a coworker who looks extra Asian. Born in Mexicali MX.

[@carlmuhammad3968]

Stop it your getting away with this BS this our culture Latinos nor Jamaicans created hip hop Latinos were a minority in the early days that was the Chuck City Crew with Dj King Mario in Bronxdale not no 50 % back then they didn't like us & called our music jungle music all the Latinos he mentioned came later late 70s nobody said they weren't there we're say you didn't created & THAT'S ACTUAL FACT!!!

[@KINGKOOKOS]

Latino population in the bx 1970 - 54% , black population in the bx 1970- 43% 👀

[@gabrielquinones8481]

THERE IS NO ONE RACE THAT TOTALLY STARTED ANY CHANDRA OF MUSIC.

[@chopitupradio4286]

Thats a lie

[@kaykayjohnson9427]

Only one race did.

[@gabrielquinones8481]

@@chopitupradio4286 bt

[@gabrielquinones8481]

@@kaykayjohnson9427 bt

[@myronsmith2114]

Hip Hop comes from Black Disco . When Black Disco left the clubs and when to the streets it became Hip Hop . You can only name a handful of Latino involved in the early days and those Latinos were treated as black

[@chinablack9790]

Music, dance, poetry, art, clothing etc, have been out for centuries! African Americans were the ones who put ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS TOGETHER, in the creation of HIP HOP! Puerto Ricans were NOT the ones who started mixing and scratching records, while breaking, rapping on the mic, and wearing certain 'street ' attire! Puerto Ricans were around, but they DID NOT START THE CULTURE!

[@Djd271]

Not true hip hop is a black thing created by black folks but had some solid artists that weren’t black why is it so hard to give black folks credit

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

What about "Black" Puerto Ricans? What about "Black" Dominicans? We just gonna act like they didn't exist?

[@maxwellbrisk5622]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV you're just hoping to muddy the waters with confusion to create enough grey area to fit yourselves in...can we claim "black" dominican and "black" rican island culture too? I mean, id like to get involved in the culture vulture convenience as well.

[@carolyngalbreath1950]

FBA have been rapping ,break dancing since 1920's. Most Lantios Caribbean,Whites didn't like HIP HOP MUSIC IN 1970S. YES they were there but they didn't create it. FBA HAVE CREATE EVERY USA MUSIC ROCK,COUNTRY HIP HOP RAP,JAZZ. FUNK,BLUES R&B,DISCO, & THEY DID JUST WHAT CARIBBEANS & LANTIOS SAYING THEY CREATED & WE PROVE THEM WRONG . WE ARE NOT 20,30,40,year old.we are 50 PLUS FBA LIVE HIP HOP. NOW WE ARE TELLING OWN CHILDREN TO FIGHT FOR THE TRUE. FBA IS AMERICAN CULTURE

[@KINGKOOKOS]

Majority of the hip hop fathers are Caribbean, u need to have names and identities if u want to black wash a 100% of something lol you know how many blacks were doing disco and hated hip hop?

[@shaniblake]

Yeah there was everybody there listening and partaking cause everyone lived in same vicinity but none of these other groups were there on the plantations which is the true foundation

[@gabrielquinones8481]

Latinos an blacks are the same. It's a mind frame way of thinking . An understanding of self and where you come from and belonging. To know where your wanted and not wanted.

[@EVERLASTING12000]

No we are not. You Latinos are among the most racist people out there.

[@idiotu668]

Puerto Ricans were wearing Swastikas on their Jackets. They didn't like FBA, they came later. You can't say you created something that you called Moreno music and Jungle Bunny Music

[@KINGKOOKOS]

Another low level FBA education lol swatstikas is used all over the world in a positive sign religiously. Blacks gangs even had it on the vest. They didn’t come later they came before, it was the gang truce between the ghetto bros and black spades that created hip hop that summer. U know there’s such things as American Ricans from ny lol I can easily say the Africans didn’t like y’all too still doesn’t prove a point lol

[@dianaraymond9]

Latinos did not hang out with black people like that in the 70’s - so how is it possible for them to claim co creation of a major genre like hip hop - when Latino’s never invented any major style of music ever that was influential like the FBA’s created jazz, rock and roll, blues, country, the list goes on.. shout out to the original creator’s of all music FBA - much love from the UK!

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

You're from the UK and you're trying to tell us what happened in the Bronx in the 70s?

[@dianaraymond9]

I have friends who lived in the bronx they me - Latino’s rarely mix with black people

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

@dianaraymond9 lol. Tell your friend to stop trying to rewrite history. Blacks and Latinos have always and still do mix together.

[@dianaraymond9]

Your a dreamer, FBA’s created all genre of music…

[@dianaraymond9]

Latino’s are great students of hip hop, but you did not co\create with the FBA’s

[@therealdjrichlove]

Peace - Unity- Love - and Having Fun.

[@AnthonyMason-cq9gi]

YES THEY DID, BECAUSE Kurt's Blow came from it and his Christmas Rapping and The Breaks blew my mind.😍😍😍

[@ImmaBeast713]

Lmfao, nice try, too much proof out there says inly black people created it

[@BoricuaNyc]

My channel has receipts 🧾 and it proves🇺🇸🇵🇷🇯🇲🗽💯

[@yessir8805]

Outside of hip hop, what other music you Jamicians and PR created before the 70s thst the world loves? FBA got 20, lets start off with two, rock and roll, and funk music. Your turn?

[@chistability5405]

Latinos were definitely there but they didn't CREATE it. They caught on from beginnings but if Kool DJ Herc Is the creator and he's Black. How are others getting credit. Credit for pushing Hip Hop but not creating it. Latinos still get props imo just not creating it props. That's just my opinion.

[@uptownbladebrown]

Ricans got a on board a few yrs later n they kno it kzbin.info/www/bejne/anO8coqsd750ga8

[@52blocksfederation83]

Name the PR Rap Stars of the 70s? Knock it off.

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

There were no rap "stars" period in the 70s...

[@iL4M]

FBA'S Created Hip Hop, Latinos (PR) came about an hour later and helped advance and sustain it.

[@jameleason7389]

We advanced and sustained it they where waiting for they chance to kick a Rap that came in the late 90s with Big Pun

[@EVERLASTING12000]

They didn't help advance nor sustain it. That's a lie as well. FBAs created damn near every genre of American music, and they NEVER needed Latinos to "help advance it and sustain it". FBAs had the likes of James Brown, Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong, B.B. King, Michael Jackson, Prince, George Clinton, Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Beyonce. So which Latinos help advance and sustain them? GTFOH.

[@ace_boogy6187]

Lol y’all give us receipts prior to the 80s

[@thacosmoswahnted3320]

You can hear the violin playing in the background the whole time. Black Americans have always been the face of Hip Hop. Their biggest contribution is showing up to the party but nowhere to be found during our struggle. There's a reason why there is no Puerto Rican/Latino version of Nas, Jay-Z Pete Rock DJ Premier.

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Big Pun would have lyrically destroyed Jay z and Nas. Facts.

[@thacosmoswahnted3320]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV Pun has lyrics but doesn't have the classic albums. And when did Pun lyrically destroy Nas and Jay?

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

"Would" lyrically destroy. If he hadn't died in 2000. You and I BOTH know Pun was nice on the mic and would have beat them in a battle.

[@thacosmoswahnted3320]

​@@DustyVisionTVDVTV I guess we'll never know. There's a difference between battle rap and putting out quality albums. Nas set the bar high with two classics out the gate. Top notch storytelling, memorable albums/songs, cultural impact/influence, career longevity, stage performance is what makes Nas G.O.A.T level. Being a one-trick pony lyrical miracle rhyme gymnast is strictly for the battle rap arena. Holding your fav mc’s on a pedestal for lyrical ability only is not enough.

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

@thacosmoswahnted3320 Nas is my favorite Rapper ever...but his 2nd album was trash. Thanks for your opinion though

[@dreval7957]

Initial creation was by blacks in the Bronx, but Puerto Ricans definitely contributed. In fact there were Ricans in the Black Spades. The creation of Hip Hop culture in its entirety did not exist before the 70's. When we speak about hip hop we are speaking about the elements that are bottled up forming its own entity.

[@OriginalKing100]

maybe 1 or 2 lol

[@kaykayjohnson9427]

Are you serious, the culture was funk and rnb also jazz. The culture was Black Panther, Civil Rights. Black Power, James Brown. That's why JB is the most sampled and most used to break dance too. Do more history.

[@dreval7957]

@@kaykayjohnson9427 Sorry don't need a history lesson. I lived the culture from '75 on. What some of y'all are not understanding, is the fact that, we are not saying the elements didn't exist, what what are saying is that we bottled all the elements up, made a specific style out of what came before, and came up with HIP HOP. U prolly too young to know or don't live in NY.

[@OriginalKing100]

@@dreval7957 Who is We? If you didnt create the elements..... yet yall took black culture and helped black people put it together like a puzzle? ..lol...yall sound desperate

[@dreval7957]

@@OriginalKing100Oh, when I say "We" I was referring to blacks and PRs. U automatically made an assumption. I was there in '75. So when I discuss my experiences of creating this culture, it had better be with someone who was there, otherwise Im just wasting my time!!

[@JohnsonLimerstine]

I have a question, who started Hip Hop Blacks or Latinos?

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Which element of hip hop?

[@JohnsonLimerstine]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV Hip Hop and or Rap music.

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Rap is a part of Hip Hop. Which one?

[@teeveer1635]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV yeah what element of hip hop wasnt established by Black Americans?

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

@@teeveer1635 what Black American? Give me a specific name.

[@portfolio291]

What came first in Hip Hop the music or the dance ? which Latino created music first ? Was the Bronx the original spot where Hip Hop was created.

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

There is a good theory that hip hop started in the West.

[@I_Love_my_adblock4408]

🙋🏾‍♂️ Tariq Nasheed destroyed this lie. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@SLPGroundSoundMusic]

i want to ask the fba group a simple question regarding and about what you fba are claiming, By claiming creation or invention , it should mean that FBA created or invented every art form element in Hip Hop which is Graffiti, Djing, Beakin and Mcing.. so now that you know the art form elements makes Hip Hop Hip Hop, can you now name me a single art for element adopted by Hip Hop that was created or invented by FBA ?? if you can name me one art element in Hip Hop that was invented by any FBA then i will accept that Hip Hop was created or invented by FBA and that every other culture are the guest and the copycats of what fba created, but it needs to be proven that fba created or invented any of art element in Hop Hop, which means that documented history should show that any of the art form was not created or invented before fba culture, because that is what creating and inventing means, that no other person or group had made nothing similar before it was created or invented ??

[@u-verse]

THOSE ARE COPY CATS. THIS GO BACK TO THE 20S. WE ORIGENATED IT ALL THE REST ARE JUST DOING WHAT THEY SAW

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

What goes back to the 20s?

[@u-verse]

STOP IT MAN . JIVE TALK WAS OURS AND ALL MUSIC PERIOD. NO MORE DISCUSION . DO THE MATH BABY. EAT OUR DUST FOOL

[@u-verse]

ALL LATIN SPOTS WERE FULL OFF NEGAS BEFORE THE COLONIZERS FROM SPAIN ECT.

[@jonathancowley1758]

Hip hop got its name in the Bronx but it started in Mississippi. In the south. The energy of this genre been around since playing dozens on the plantations. That's the part the Latino brothers don't get. Claiming you something other than a kngh. You got two different men. Both of them are the same, genetically sub Saharan. But they both speak different from one another. One speak English one speak Latino. Both come from South America and South of America... Same people. English speaking Africans and Latino speaking Africans brought that drum up the Mississippi river.

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

What is speaking "Latino"?

[@soulblack621]

Foundational Blacks created hip hop...there is no debate.

[@honewil]

Next nurses are going to say they I did the operation because I was in the room

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

I heard that same comment on another podcast the other day. Literally . At least quote your sources "Lord Jamar"

[@honewil]

@@DustyVisionTVDVTV not....FBA has a astral connection that transmits from one to the other, that's how we created HIP HOP alone,creat your on sound, we're not all Trap & Drill out here,we're Real Black Americans on guard...

[@honewil]

Have a nice day trying to make your own style of culture....

[@301tg8]

Y’all are attempting to do what Caucasians did with Rock n Roll. Not happening.

[@hotbx119]

We in here!

[@mrt445]

The majority of people saying it's only young people claiming that Latinos weren't involved are wrong. Black people who were around back then also say Ricans had nothing to do with the creation and they're right

[@KINGKOOKOS]

I mean how do you really know if u can’t name any of the people who created it? The blacks and Rican were involved in everything together before hip hop not after.

[@kasheem1747]

Creation not Contribution !

[@twest8309]

You got 52 likes homie..

[@DustyVisionTVDVTV]

Most I've gotten in a long time.