LAU GAR 2nd form JORN SAU

Lau Gar Guardian Steve Newby discusses and demonstrates the second form of the British Kung Fu Association's Lau Gar syllabus; Jorn Sau and also provides some applications for novices/enthusiasts and senior grades alike.

[@stuarthutchin7686]

Hi Steve. Fantastic logical breakdowns. I especially liked the wrist strikes section. My first teacher was Mark Margiotta who trained under Humphrey Broomes. He demonstrated the wrist strike by asking me to grab his top tightly. He then proceeded to wrist strike to release but I didn't and instead was pulled forward onto his wrist strike which struck my forehead and knocked me out for a few seconds. I was about 14 or 15 at the time. It taught me a valuable lesson in not resisting a technique but adapting and following it.

[@SJNMartialArts]

Thank you Stuart, great anecdote!

[@scottellison6870]

when i first learned this form it was done with serious amounts of dynamic tension. was told about how it should take 10 mins or more to do the whole thing. its interesting to see how its evolved

[@SJNMartialArts]

I think master Yau's record is 18 minutes....coordinating the techniques with the breathing. Thanks for the comment.

[@frankmartinez4856]

Didn’t realize this Lau Gar, is not the one, founded in the Hung Gar school 😳🤗these are Beautiful Set! Thanks 🙏 Sifu 💕😬

[@Cailean_MacCoinnich]

I like your body movements in this form. Most people ( and I include the way I was taught) stand rigid taking the "standing post" literally. It was after I'd putting more hip/waist movements into KBSF and feeling much more power and connection between each technique that I realised I'd also been doing Jorn Sau like I've got a broom handle up me wotsit. There has always been fa jing points like the double spear hands at the beginning where the whole body is connected, but so much of the form I've long practiced, just basically using my arms. There is always the argument (seldom a discussion) about doing the form with tension or very soft. Here is where so many Lau Gar instructors have failed their students. Because some will say "with dynamic tension", others will say "do it really softly". They are both wrong imo. Jorn Sau is a training form, so train it soft, train it hard, train it fast and slow. Work it. train the legs by holding a KF slipper between the knees if you want to (Stan Brown Sifu enjoyed making students do this). But you don't have to do the form with the knees together, only close enough to protect the groin. There is so much in these early forms that is often skipped over in the urgency for beginners to gain sashes, so thank you for creating the only quality Lau Gar instruction on YT. Really looking forward to seeing a "Charp Choi for Dummies" video soon Steve (hint).

[@SJNMartialArts]

Wow, a wonderful comment there so thank you very much. Steve has just moved across to the other side of Canada ( New Brunswick) so as soon as he's settled in we will both work to get Charp Choi out there.

[@kenmcintosh3705]

It's 'Jong Sau' as far as I now from back it the day and I still have the old book with Jeremy Yau in it.

[@vandamme6379]

It’s neither, as it’s written in Chinese anyway.

[@mack2183]

I trained shipley and Halifax under Sifu Stewart Hunt had to stop due to work and family but met some great people training over yrs

[@jackedwards2363]

Will you do on tube fai long gee and Lau gar Luk would love to add them as I get to my purple sash and at time working on my brow a long time ago if can hope will do

[@ralphgleason1461]

Well done. Love this outline. Now I just need a training partner. I'll sneak it in in my jiu jitsu class. Good hand fighting greatly helps. My training in Wing Chun helped me survive as a white belt in jiu jitsu. This form reminds me a little of the first form in Wing Chun. Love it !

[@SJNMartialArts]

Yeah its very similar isn't it?. Alot of people say the same thing and we always say "well yeah, it comes from the same place". Very much appreciate the comment Ralph ATB :)

[@gilbertvalentin9367]

All systems have their roots in Shaolin. I can see the great similarities to wing Chun, Fukien white crane, etc. Thanks for posting.

[@Premanandadas-cm2co]

I did Lau gar in Birmingham in the 70s under Jeremy Yau,then under Ken Hoult in Dudley in the 80s..I'm now in I'll health and much older but so very much wish I could find vids of all the forms to practise

[@BlackRosesSmellSweeter]

I train under Ken Hoult now in the Black Country. If you’d like to get in touch I can record myself doing all of the forms and send them to you (I’d get Ken to do it but he has trouble walking so he can’t do the leg work of the sets anymore)

[@deanaromain2313]

I’m blue next next once 26 June helps with ❤

[@BOXINCHING]

Great vid! Got my black sash under Bernard Chong in 87/88 haven’t done any sets for maybe 30 years and would love to see if I could do them but need reminding,are there any vids of all up to black sash?

[@SJNMartialArts]

thank you!, no not yet.......

[@leewightman8001]

Remember this one well

[@lennythomas1116]

Love this guy👍

[@tintomara6209]

Brilliant. Whisper it, but this might even be better than the 'official' video...

[@SJNMartialArts]

hahahaha! i'm pleading the 5th on that!!!

[@jackedwards2363]

I was learning law gar in 80s a d for long time is great has teach me a lot a d I grow always if can help me find the other forms and. For brown belts as I wish to remember them

[@icingo6990]

Great video, this is the sort of lau gar content that I have always hoped someone would make. Are you intending to do future videos detailing forms/sets from other sashes?

[@SJNMartialArts]

Thanks for the comment much appreciated! and yeah we definitely will be adding more vids in the future, for the very reason that Lau Gar is often misrepresented on YT. Take care.

[@oossum]

@@SJNMartialArts please do, this has fanned the eternal flame of something very much cherished. Used to train with little monk and a few times with Stan. Very much appreciated thanks

[@jackedwards2363]

Have you done the far qun flower fists and for now blet

[@willemels5238]

This looks a lot like Wing Chun's first form. Does this show common ancestory?

[@leewightman8001]

Got my orange sash when I was 16 wish I stuck at it

[@jackedwards2363]

Will you do also the 4 and 5 forms

[@ellenmurphy3011]

My saviour 💕💕

[@mack2183]

Trained in this for a few year but left because all ya did every night was 15 min warm up then ya combination of blocks then ya practice ya form for ya sash and then sparring never learnt any self defense like I did in Budjinkan and krav maga.

[@SJNMartialArts]

Sorry to hear that Mack but alas... not all Lau is taught equally. Where did you train?

[@Cailean_MacCoinnich]

So you did "warmup" ie strength training, flexibility, stamina. Then you did partnered combination work , then you did technical drills by practicing the forms, then you did sparring with another person, so you trained timing distance, speed etc etc.. These are all necessary parts of self defence training. What did I miss? Ah... it wasn't called self defence training, because in Kung Fu it is a given that a "primary" objective of training is self defence, so stating the obvious is unnecessary. May I ask do you wear tabbi boots at Ninja class?

[@mgtowabbott6924]

Looks like a smattering of the first and second Wing Chun forms.

[@stinam]

wing chun siu nim tao

[@Zinglebarb]

Do you remember Humphrey Broomes and Adrian Tunnicliff?

[@SJNMartialArts]

Steve definitely does Dave, but a little before my time I’m afraid. “Old school Lau”

[@Zinglebarb]

@@SJNMartialArts Addie was my teacher before he split and Humphrey split. I was then taught by Gary King

[@richardlockwood8430]

Yeah I trained with Humphrey in Portsmouth from 1979 onwards black Honda prelude and shades great fighter so fast and technically spot on .