Laurence Fox sits down with boxing promoter Kellie Maloney to discuss trans women in sport

[@jeffreymilton5829]

This is just a tragic story. I feel sorry for him...but it is "him."

[@Diamondsparkle788]

Yep. If have a Y chromosome always male.

[@speakeasy5306]

No such thing as TRANS WOMEN. But there is such a thing as PSYCHOSIS. An inability to deal with REALITY, and thus to invent an alternative REALITY.

[@speakeasy5306]

Quantum Physics it ain't .. That's simply a man dressed in women's clothes. And ain't nothing gonna change that.

[@joycegibbs5267]

your last two sentences couldn't describe this insane world better but we're being forced to live in it !!

[@skylongskylong1982]

Due to the lack of free speech, if you say this is a mental illness, you could get visit from the Police to check your thinking. On top that your employee could be pressured to fire you !

[@emmahowells8334]

Exactly

[@Diamondsparkle788]

A feminine male, short male or a gay male is still that...male.

[@janbugaj2422]

Transvestite not transwoman!!!!

[@kimberlyhart5692]

Yes…what happened to that word. It’s actually appropriate word, I believe

[@Diamondsparkle788]

No man would want him

[@kitezzz360]

he had his penis removed so he's kinda a bit fucked, lol

[@laurenglass4514]

This was interesting. I think males should stay out of womens sports transitioned or not. They went through puberty and their frame and musculature is different. I think they are pushing thoughts into kids heads

[@Jamie-Z]

Puberty has little to with it. They are men. You can change the appearence but that is only cosmetic, They are still men and we do not have the technology to change that.

[@Diamondsparkle788]

Why are people pretending humans can be whatever they want...they can't. I can't be a black woman

[@girlfriendisbetter]

I think people are being squeamish. Women menstruate. At every level in sport males have many advantages over females but not having to menstruate or deal with menopause.....it's just ludicrous to pretend that isn't a MASSIVE difference.

[@Diamondsparkle788]

@@girlfriendisbetter Some women train so hard their periods stop. Which is unnatural

[@girlfriendisbetter]

@@Diamondsparkle788 Some women train so hard they injure themselves. The point is no male has to cope with menstruation, every female either copes with them, copes with suspending them (some birth control) or copes with a condition causing the absence of them (anaemia, underweight etc).

[@Dracoool]

One can't turn a bull into a cow or a rooster into a chicken...TRUE STORY

[@Jamie-Z]

At three years old "I just felt different" just like every other 3 year old.

[@gedhuffadine1873]

Sorry but felt something at 3 years old ? Bull

[@sumthingwickedly]

Claptrap why did it take till he was 60 then??

[@pantopia3518]

@@sumthingwickedly because of attitudes of people like you making it difficult and scary

[@Diamondsparkle788]

Like Laurence said. He could barley remember being 3

[@Libertarian606]

How the hell do you know? The arrogance of your comment🤦‍♂️

[@Diamondsparkle788]

@@Libertarian606 It's well known most people don't have much memory before 4.

[@BlueEyes499]

The argument is always ‘you can’t have surgery until you’re 18’ but what happens if the child takes puberty blockers, then decides they don’t want to continue and are now stuck permanently with a deep voice, infertility, an Adam’s apple, facial hair, breasts etc! I’m pretty sure these blockers would stop you growing taller & damage bones too. Absolutely no intervention should be available until they are a fully grown adult, with mental health help offered until then. Nobody should be saying these blockers are safe when that is not true & we don’t fully know the risks of them yet.

[@sofiacapel7686]

They are physically reversible, so that wouldn’t happen.

[@clarkyno1311]

This country needs serious healing, tell me this isn't pure madness ?

[@christine2429]

Totally agree. There's surely something wrong going on in this man's head. He looks like a man dressed as a woman and therefore thinks he is a woman. Obviously he can dress however he likes but if he was born with a willy .....he's a man. You have to feel sorry for him though to be so mixed up in head he wants to look so ridiculous.

[@lindalaw5466]

You are correct, batshit crazy.

[@Libertarian606]

This isn’t pure madness. It’s somebody finding a way to feel comfortable in their own skin. What’s insane about that?

[@lindalaw5466]

@@Libertarian606 the madness is expecting me to go along with his delusion. He will never be a woman.

[@Libertarian606]

@@lindalaw5466 SHE doesn’t expect you to do anything, but what is the problem with treating her with respect? Why does it matter to you if she is a man or a woman? Shouldn’t we treat everyone based on their conduct, how well they treat others? I just don’t see your problem

[@marylynch951]

He still looks like a man I think it's sad Has he lost his family

[@bh148]

The Tavistock had a damning CQC and is being closed down after the Cass review found many concerns.

[@JibbarJabbar]

You can always change who you are, but you can never change what you are.

[@laurenglass4514]

Thank you Laurence for the discussion.

[@danielhughes7359]

She/he/it felt something at 3. That's the biggest piece of bull I've ever heard

[@MisterSolitude]

what's it going to be next? "i felt something different when I was in my mums womb. And then i came out arms first and that's when I knew I was different"

[@kimberlyhart5692]

I just love Mr Fox’s demeanor in all interviews…very respectful, open, honest

[@Slapbladder]

So a 6ft bloke can take hormones for 2/3 years then can complete in a womens sport while still having a male bone structure, muscle mass, connective tissue advantages, speed.....etc etc....oh do sod off.

[@cgat1955]

Wow what a bloody mess!

[@angelabrown9729]

He still looks like a man.

[@Diamondsparkle788]

@@angelabrown9729 Yes he does and sounds like one

[@sumthingwickedly]

There's not that many in sports? There's one it's too many. This is grooming 101 again

[@stevensarson482]

I can just about remember my peg at junior school aged 5. I couldn’t tell you how I felt, except for when I got a gold star for tying my shoelaces!! Interesting conversation apart from the recollections of a 3 year old.

[@Diamondsparkle788]

I can remember being 4 but no earlier

[@Allegedly2right]

Are you a Rigger by any chance haha

[@divergenesis8484]

Why are we pretending that humans suddenly turn sensible, knowing exactly what they need in life when they reach 18

[@Diamondsparkle788]

That's true our brains don't fully develop until 25 or so. Physically can be grown by 18 though.

[@richalderson6069]

It's always about feeling "different" isn't it? We ALL feel different in some way, especially when we are three years old! That doesn't mean a man sticking on a dress and fake breasts makes him a woman.

[@lindalaw5466]

Frank believes in free speech. That is reassuring. I think he has internalised homophobia, if he was brought up in a religious family, in the time he was born.

[@paulprice8541]

Nope. AGP (heterosexual crossdresser+)..at most pseudo-bisexual (ie gets validation in thinking men find him f*ckable as a “woman”..but that’s where it ends)

[@adulthumanfemale265]

He's a straight man

[@Diamondsparkle788]

He has 3 daughters. He might be bi sexual in that case.

[@lindalaw5466]

@@Diamondsparkle788 He might, although another celebrity Paul O’Grady who is gay had a relationship with a woman in his youth. He speaks of a daughter and grandchildren. I think it is common for some men who struggle with their sexuality. He had a drag act Lily Savage in the 80/90s , but retired the act.

[@adulthumanfemale265]

@@Diamondsparkle788 he has 3 daughters and a wife he gaslit. He is a straight man. There is zero indication that he might be bisexual or gay. He is an autogynophilic straight man and shame on him for choosing his fetish over his family. He is a disgrace.

[@Diamondsparkle788]

A feminine male, short male or a gay male is still that...male.

[@HULLDUDE666]

Gaby Roslin's not aged well. 🤪

[@thedukeofchortlebury9124]

😂 🤣 nice one 😄

[@Totajee79]

😂😂

[@what-uc]

He still likes men to punch each other in the face for money

[@Diamondsparkle788]

Yeah not exactly a female job is it without sounding sexiest. Managing male fighters. He couldn't hit men himself so he hit a woman instead

[@woz7379]

Close association with Brighton no need to say anymore.🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@barbarastewart8066]

18 is still too young!! My goodness I was so scared and confused, just growing up and going to College. If you ask me, if any decision should be made, 30 years of age. We over in America just had an 11 year old commit suicide as was told to me...insidious.

[@jefftucker201]

Anyone who claims to remember anything from the age of 3 makes me laugh, absolute BS! lol Great talk though, sounds like Kellie had a hard life. Talking about Trans athletes its not just hormone levels that make the difference, bone and muscle density the size of a mans heart etc are the biggest difference and those hardly change after transition.

[@beseeingyou9120]

This is the first time I've listened to a trans person and felt enough empathy for them that I would be willing to address them as their transitioned name of choice. What i wouldn't do however, is agree with them that they are female. That's a no go for me. I think Kellie should be able to live his life as he chooses. He seems calm and respectful and not wishing to push an agenda down people's throats, just wants to live his life as the person he has chosen to be. He is at an age where I don't beleive his gender dysphoria can be treated medically or psychologically, not like someone a lot younger with their whole life in front of them. Enjoy your life Kellie, you have earned it and keep living true to yourself, never turn into someone who force feeds people thier beliefs 👏

[@Jenny-nz8fb]

When I hear any adult use the term “trutrans” I want to scream!! Wtf is “trutrans”?

[@JoeyXSmith]

What happen to middle age guys going through a mid life crisis and just getting new car and new younger wife anymore? Now they all getting a sex change now. What the hell happened?

[@michellehudson6865]

AGE 3? FFS Tuning out Laurence. AGP

[@sakhter4044]

People should pay themselves or if kids the parents should not the NHS for this gender issues. Most would soon calm down and will think more

[@Chinwagger2024]

Fascinating.

[@darranbewick5292]

I have to take my hat of to Kellie was a very brave life choice he made whether you agree with it or not. I say go Kellie enjoy your new life as you are doing no harm. Good luck to you.

[@lindalaw5466]

Doing no harm apart from talking rubbish about wrong sex hormones and irreversible surgeries. These things are not reversible. You can have a tattoo removed- but a shadow is left behind in the deep dermis, which is why big rubbish tattoos are re inked. Permanent damage is being done to young confused boys/men; girls/women, that cannot be glossed over.

[@Diamondsparkle788]

As a man you probably don't care about this threat to women and girls. The trans ideology. It's a men's rights movement to gain access to women's spaces.

[@johnwaller4033]

Great interview and yes they all need to get around a table and make things law before we end up like the USA. There should be different leagues ladies trans and men 18 years old should be the age any intervention for trans

[@bjpgm1233]

Still is living a lie

[@paulshorney3465]

Kelly wasn't a very good looking fella,now? We'll .... 😥😥

[@Baresi-Unico-Capitano]

Really sad reading all of the judgemental nonsense in the comment section. If you close your eyes and actually listen, Maloney is clearly a very intelligent, well spoken and eloquent individual.

[@gerardovillarreal4640]

You want him to have your baby?

[@BlueSteel331]

OMG !

[@adacox]

I thought he was interviewing Phil Harding

[@Vandal_Savage]

He must have shaved his sideburns 🤣

[@jamiegardiner-kt2id]

I feel worse for the women who train for years and years.

[@nickbrian5141]

We all feel different.

[@TheBundleofkent]

Had a great night out with Frank in 1993 in Liverpool as he spoke at our Medical School. Remember him losing it with a bouncer who wouldn't let us into a bar. I was astonished when he became Kellie..............

[@darrengrimmer8541]

Felt something at 3??

[@seedster8597]

The eddie izzard of boxing What is this world coming to? In the words of Rigsby "stop the world I want to get off "

[@diana-cy4kj]

AGP

[@oscarjohn1]

So glad we have normal people like you Laurence. Happy you came through the false racist allegations which I’m sure you lived through hell. But glad you are back where you belong. Fighting the views of the normal person. I like Kelly and good on her. Gets in no one’s face and gets on with her life 👏🏼👏🏼don’t mind anyone doing anything as long as they don’t force themselves and their views upon you. She talks sense

[@kevinb9830]

him.

[@christophersmith8990]

FFS please no more segments about trans or alphabet people GB News. You've done this to death

[@fabiennemitchell2371]

GB News needs to continually highlight all the medical abuses occuring to children especially.

[@podjun80]

Have you got a remote control? It's a device that allows you change the channel.

[@Diamondsparkle788]

🤣

[@aaronmeyler8838]

was it getting bummed the whole time or did that start after the nervous breakdown post Thompson v price?

[@joyelmes7814]

Pantomime dames have always made me cringe, for many years.

[@alanlittle6360]

The comments😂😂

[@emmaelizabeth8866]

Doesnt agree with people been transgender but still calls Kellie Malone Kellie and not frank?? I don't understand that! And I wholeheartedly remember that at 3 years i was a girl and wanted to be a girl we do fly i genuinely think the obly reason he was been nice because he knew Kellie could very easily knock him out

[@barrycastles5168]

No what i mean arry

[@paulgeddes7384]

Caroline Cossey AKA Tula

[@theresacermak1781]

Woman adult human female

[@kimberlyhart5692]

“Female brain in male body”…?????nah/need scientific community to confirm that I’d like his definition of a woman and why better to be woman than man?

[@ashm.5899]

holy shit! he looks like an upside down skate!

[@bristolcorvid8894]

Kellie argues against labels. However, reality--and labels--do in fact matter. We have finite resources in the world; for example: allocating obstetric and gynecological resources to biological men because they "feel" female is both insulting and a waste of time and money. Kellie is downplaying any number of statistics because reality doesn't fit with his fiction. The trans community has disproportionate influence in society. In the US, some school systems are indeed allowing and encouraging young children to live (during school hours) in the fiction of another persona. More and more trans athletes are stealing top prizes from female competitors. Puberty blockers and trans hormones are directly correlated with numerous--and permanent--health consequences.

[@seandoyle8629]

hello frank

[@seadog717]

What freak

[@Allegedly2right]

That’s life boy be what you want to be no harm done there’s a few birds out there that would take your head off haha got one in the house she’s the boss.Nice one on you go pal

[@crystalmethking]

She's a bit of alright!

[@BlueSteel331]

rather you than me !

[@HULLDUDE666]

🤣

[@Diamondsparkle788]

You must be desperate to take anything

[@crystalmethking]

@@Diamondsparkle788 i've had worse!!!

[@barrycastles5168]

Looker

[@euaggeliakladi4260]

Thank kellie for being a very honest and truithful person god bless you.

[@romeisfallingagain]

laurence is terrified hes gonna get a right hook from a boxing champion lol

[@beardtrick]

When was Frank Maloney a boxing champion?

[@romeisfallingagain]

@@beardtrick i dunno. i dont follow bread and circuses. have no idea about entertainment for plebs. so this person is a literal who then?

[@beardtrick]

@@romeisfallingagain are you off your meds?

[@romeisfallingagain]

@@beardtrick im high intelligence. i dont pay attention to bread and circuses. sorry i dont care or follow celebrity culture. i think its you who may indeed need some meds.

[@lindalaw5466]

He was a boxing promoter/ manager who has a background of domestic violence.

[@richardcoombe1594]

Nice person Kellie be he a Male or Female a very nice Human being mild mannered Respect from me.

[@mistycats7102]

Not so sure about that. Maybe ask the ex wife that he attempted to strangle according to The Mirror interview in 2015

[@lindalaw5466]

@@mistycats7102 - hi @mistycats ! he was known to be very aggressive through his boxing management career too.

[@mistycats7102]

@@lindalaw5466 hi Linda. Yes I remember reading that. Ps, you are up early.

[@theodorebundy2234]

Bloke end of

[@cantthinkofausername8698]

What a handsome woman.

[@elainekent3551]

😂😂

[@colonisedtartan9539]

Lorraine Kelly who is still doing Lorraine..Lorraine Lorraine...was so crule to this lady ..Frank. and then when he was kelllie Lorraine was healous