Killer Cases: The Husband Who Thought He’d Gotten Away with Murdering His Wife

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@unitedwestanddividedwefall5098
@unitedwestanddividedwefall5098 11 ай бұрын
I believe he did it. But if I was on that jury I would have to say not guilty. There is no evidence and there’s no way I could say beyond a reasonable doubt.
@susanhughan2198
@susanhughan2198 11 ай бұрын
I agree 💯 The prosecutor did Not meet the burden of proof to convict him, I too wouldn’t have been able to render a guilty verdict.. too much reasonable doubt
@ivetteguada600
@ivetteguada600 10 ай бұрын
I’ve got too many questions on this one. Like was there any kind of foul play evidence in the home? Did he go out with her and strangle her and made her disappear? Just because he hooks up with another woman, does that mean he’s quilts? The other woman took her own life. Does that mean she’s guilty or maybe she just couldn’t deal with the stress of knowing that she could probably be the reason why the wife is no longer. Or is it because she knew the truth and didn’t want to get that man in trouble? 😑
@Heylo12345
@Heylo12345 9 ай бұрын
Exactly! Legally speaking there was enough responsible doubt
@billyjohnson5112
@billyjohnson5112 9 ай бұрын
​@@Heylo12345is responsible doubt a thing (legally) or did u mean reasonable?
@LunchMeatTrump
@LunchMeatTrump 9 ай бұрын
​@@ivetteguada600quilts?
@ktarv6111
@ktarv6111 11 ай бұрын
If there was ever a case where a guy should have invoked his right to an attorney, this is it.
@lance5015
@lance5015 Ай бұрын
@@ktarv6111 you got a problem..?
@justme-cr2zc
@justme-cr2zc 11 ай бұрын
Although I'm leaning toward him being guilty, I absolutely do not think his guilt was proven here...
@Mandapanda.
@Mandapanda. 8 ай бұрын
Man I’m glad I’m not the only one here. This one was weird.
@alaina721
@alaina721 6 ай бұрын
I was expecting them to say not guilty. They had nothing 😳
@Noblesix84
@Noblesix84 6 ай бұрын
Same here, I didn't think they proved any real guilt. While I'm not saying he didn't do it, he very well could have, for all we know she knew where those sludge ponds were, took her own life where and ended up inside, and he was given a false verdict
@Jstini26
@Jstini26 6 ай бұрын
no legit..
@jordandavis4898
@jordandavis4898 6 ай бұрын
​@Noblesix84 important things are the detectives busted him on a couple lies. Most innocent ppl wouldn't lie about searching for a missing loved one.
@conners.7538
@conners.7538 11 ай бұрын
Holy cow. I cannot believe he was found guilty. He definitely is the most likely suspect, but what an incredibly weak case. Stunned at the decision.
@lance5015
@lance5015 11 ай бұрын
So you don't mind him living with you?
@conners.7538
@conners.7538 11 ай бұрын
@@lance5015 you don't convict someone of murder based on whether you would want them living with you.
@Jewish.Redneck.Hybrid
@Jewish.Redneck.Hybrid 11 ай бұрын
​@@lance5015that's the dumbest comment in the history of the internet.
@gregpettis1113
@gregpettis1113 11 ай бұрын
I'm stunned that he continued talking to the detectives
@muttsez
@muttsez 9 ай бұрын
true....but the truly innocent doesnt have to lie
@HellaReckless
@HellaReckless 11 ай бұрын
I’m sure we all think he did it but to be convicted off zero evidence is scary.
@pinkpugginz
@pinkpugginz 10 ай бұрын
circumstantial evidence is evidence .......
@Saki630
@Saki630 10 ай бұрын
@@pinkpugginz we have circumstantial evidence that you did it too
@mushroomcait7611
@mushroomcait7611 10 ай бұрын
He admitted killing her
@tommyspringer6119
@tommyspringer6119 9 ай бұрын
@@mushroomcait7611 which he retracted. That isn't a confession
@rmovers123
@rmovers123 9 ай бұрын
Zero evidence is scary. Rest in peace Roy Brown. Convicted of murder of a social worker. He had an argument with her the week prior. In the end if not for a news reporter who never let off the case and Innocence Project, he'd still be sitting in prison. The murderer admitted to his crime via mail then stepped in front of a Amtrak. We've had two men, two different cases serve when innocent.
@skyblue8622
@skyblue8622 11 ай бұрын
He's not a likeable fellow but no way he should've been found guilty. His age and the amount of years that had gone by, he could have thought he went to the gas station. I pray no one in my family ever has to rely on a jury to determine their future. Really scary times.
@pretzelmaker3122
@pretzelmaker3122 11 ай бұрын
He was asked about where he searched very soon after and you also didn't hear the witnesses yourself so coming to a conclusion that he shouldn't have been found guilty makes me glad you weren't on the jury. He may not have done it but hearing 45 minutes of what someone wanted to show you about this case shouldn't be enough for you to conclude much of anything.
@danielbockmann883
@danielbockmann883 10 ай бұрын
This is a perfect example of why you never speak to the police. Even if you accidentally give false information, it may be enough to convict you. You get a lawyer whether you're guilty or not
@lisadawn79
@lisadawn79 7 ай бұрын
Lately, I don't feel cases like this are justice. Where is the evidence? I'm not saying I think the step father is not guilty of something but not convinced of murder. Maybe I wish I could see the full case but still not feeling it
@sirvilhelmofyonderland
@sirvilhelmofyonderland 7 ай бұрын
I think he is guilty. He wAS HAVING an affair. He was in an unhappy marriage. He knew where her body was or wasn’t.
@giii7599
@giii7599 2 ай бұрын
@@sirvilhelmofyonderland Affair, Unhappy marriage, means absolutely nothing.
@sirvilhelmofyonderland
@sirvilhelmofyonderland 2 ай бұрын
@@giii7599 its motive,
@giii7599
@giii7599 2 ай бұрын
@@sirvilhelmofyonderland No it's not.
@1indefinitetruth
@1indefinitetruth 11 ай бұрын
wait... saying "i loved THAT woman" & saying "nope" 3 times, means someone is lying? this is the crap they make up & teach in p.i. school?
@deancloud1327
@deancloud1327 9 ай бұрын
If he said it 5 times he us telling the truth.
@onthegang5440
@onthegang5440 7 ай бұрын
@@deancloud1327 lol
@markspark3360
@markspark3360 7 ай бұрын
Seems true to me
@sirvilhelmofyonderland
@sirvilhelmofyonderland 7 ай бұрын
I think he is guilty. He wAS HAVING an affair. He was in an unhappy marriage. He knew where her body was or wasn’t.
@Smi_
@Smi_ 7 ай бұрын
Calling her “woman” and not by name is a sign of distancing yourself
@thomassharp-dd4hi
@thomassharp-dd4hi 9 ай бұрын
This is the scariest episode I've ever watched guilty until proven innocent
@28snoflake
@28snoflake 11 ай бұрын
Had i served as a juror, just knowing that Victoria stated to her daughter, "if i do it again, u wont find me.." i wouldn't be able to vote guilty in good conscience...i have suspicions that he did it, he definitely lied about a few things, but that statement Victoria made would have me unsure whether he did it or not 💯
@aliwooz913
@aliwooz913 11 ай бұрын
He definitely didn't do it
@chloeandchanel7046
@chloeandchanel7046 9 ай бұрын
27:25 The daughter also even admitted she didn't tell her step-father anything about that statement her mother made until *after* her mother came up missing. It's absolutely possible he murdered her and pulled off a "perfect" murder with no body, zero evidence at all of any foul play, and also accidentally ended up with the perfect defense (aka the daughter's testimony of her own mother's words) but the standard the prosecution has to prove in a court of law is "beyond a reasonable doubt" and the prosecution simply did not prove anywhere near that to a jury.
@eej902
@eej902 2 ай бұрын
19 y.o. hearsay that's basically inconsequential, however it's possible she walked into the ocean 🪸🌊. "It's better to be alone than wish you were".
@1mataleo1
@1mataleo1 11 ай бұрын
Even if her husband hated her guts and was thrilled that she was dead or missing, that doesn’t mean he killed her. It is an absolute disgrace that this man was convicted given the lack of evidence; and actually is pretty terrifying that a jury was willing to deprive him of his life. The burden of proof is “beyond a reasonable doubt “. He was convicted because of feeling. This is why you never speak to investigators, especially without an attorney
@muttsez
@muttsez 9 ай бұрын
simply put........he told too many lies, makes you look bad for the jury.....
@shindrithargriethrat8408
@shindrithargriethrat8408 7 ай бұрын
The jury saw all of the evidence. You didn't. It's why we have courts of law and don't rely on the court of public opinion.
@Heylo12345
@Heylo12345 9 ай бұрын
She was suicidal, she promised they’d never find her body and they didn’t find her body! He probably did it but you can’t convict someone on “probably”
@mattpressley4063
@mattpressley4063 11 ай бұрын
What a ridiculous verdict. What happened to beyond a reasonable doubt? They didn't even prove she was dead, much less that he killed her.
@sirvilhelmofyonderland
@sirvilhelmofyonderland 7 ай бұрын
I think he is guilty. He wAS HAVING an affair. He was in an unhappy marriage. He knew where her body was or wasn’t.
@giii7599
@giii7599 2 ай бұрын
@@sirvilhelmofyonderland Affair, Unhappy marriage, means absolutely nothing.
@marshapieroni6677
@marshapieroni6677 Ай бұрын
​@@sirvilhelmofyonderlandthat just described 99 percent of marriages 😂
@sirvilhelmofyonderland
@sirvilhelmofyonderland Ай бұрын
@@marshapieroni6677 99% wow that’s high
@lindsayward829
@lindsayward829 11 ай бұрын
That detective that said “who says THAT WOMAN about their wife?!” ….. every southern man ever 🤦‍♀️
@RedDotInABlueState91
@RedDotInABlueState91 10 ай бұрын
Or lots of men across the country, not just in the south.
@emwr222
@emwr222 10 ай бұрын
Not when there wives are missing
@anthonycolozzi8256
@anthonycolozzi8256 9 ай бұрын
It’s used as sort of a term of endearment. I don’t agree with the detective that it shows distance or anger. “That cop” is a dope.
@robertblandry
@robertblandry 9 ай бұрын
Yeah there’s a few men I know who call their wives their bride
@puzzlite
@puzzlite 9 ай бұрын
he was guilty
@travelintheresa7884
@travelintheresa7884 11 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but there was not enough evidence BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.
@muttsez
@muttsez 9 ай бұрын
yes, but telling the truth would have set him free....too many lies.
@____username____
@____username____ 5 ай бұрын
@@muttsezyou’re incredibly naive
@rainwhenidie666
@rainwhenidie666 Ай бұрын
No but's. The law is the law. Without reasonable doubt. EVEN IF that doubt is .00001%.
@aries1254
@aries1254 11 ай бұрын
What happened to beyond a reasonable doubt. No body, no crime scene, no violence in their history. Just that he lied about a few things. I really don't think looking at him he could pull that off with out leaving evidence.
@brandon779
@brandon779 11 ай бұрын
This is a little scary that they could convince a jury of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt without any evidence except a hunch.
@Keepit100Dre
@Keepit100Dre 11 ай бұрын
There’s no way he should have been found guilty. This is just silly
@dougbuzzard8029
@dougbuzzard8029 11 ай бұрын
This poor guy got railroaded! Just because it makes everyone feel better it’s no excuse to convict a man for the rest of his life.
@nancyzehr3679
@nancyzehr3679 11 ай бұрын
poor guy?!? hes a demon.
@thebrazentruth
@thebrazentruth 11 ай бұрын
@@nancyzehr3679 imagine if he’s innocent. You would be the bad guy for condemning him without evidence of his guilt.
@moonchild1569
@moonchild1569 11 ай бұрын
@@thebrazentruthjust imagine 😅
@Heylo12345
@Heylo12345 9 ай бұрын
I can’t believe his lawyers didnt immediately fight for a new trial! This is ridiculous.
@oli_brownie
@oli_brownie 11 ай бұрын
“Almost 100% indication of deception” 🙄 70% of the time it works every time
@NastyWorks
@NastyWorks 7 ай бұрын
The prosecutor asked the son do you miss your mom. Of course he does. The reason why she asked is because there are nine women on the jury. As soon as they said nine women, I thought this man is going to be found guilty. How did his lawyers allow that?
@noneyabusiness8738
@noneyabusiness8738 10 ай бұрын
They had zero evidence against this man. He said it because he didn’t want his gf to get introuble. This is insane.
@vegas9440
@vegas9440 11 ай бұрын
I can’t believe the judge went with this verdict. Like wtf
@bridgetgress
@bridgetgress 7 ай бұрын
The judge can't change the verdict
@lindsayward829
@lindsayward829 11 ай бұрын
Them saying “he’s mixing up his lies…” some of that is just bein old 😂 my grandma did stuff like that
@lindasheldon6940
@lindasheldon6940 11 ай бұрын
My husband is 73 and does it all the time but says it's me not remembering correctly! He can't fathom it's him.
@savagesooner4891
@savagesooner4891 11 ай бұрын
My 83 year old dad can’t even remember what he had for supper the night before…
@muttsez
@muttsez 9 ай бұрын
not in front of a jury....
@bitcoinbeavis7742
@bitcoinbeavis7742 11 ай бұрын
She could have jumped into a bottomless hole for all we know, they can’t even prove she’s even dead let alone that he killed her. It’s just basically we think he did it and said some strange things. There is so much reasonable doubt in this case that it should have never been brought into court in the first place. You can’t even blame the defense council, he said exactly what was needed to be said. No evidence is no evidence says it all.
@tom_something
@tom_something 11 ай бұрын
I agree. It seems like there was a reasonable defense theory. Essentially, the marriage wasn't going well and it drove the victim to take her own life. The suspect felt some relief from her disappearance and presumed death. He had been having an affair with another woman. Maybe that contributed to it. He wasn't particularly distraught about her death and didn't look for her. When pressured by law enforcement, he took them on a false tour for fear that refusing would imply culpability. Meanwhile, the other woman perjured herself by denying the affair and then took her own life when the pressure rose. Doesn't this seem like a plausible theory? I'm not saying likely, only plausible. Much of this theory involves crimes, for sure, but not murder. I'm surprised this whole thing ended with a premeditated murder conviction. Murder alone is a stretch, with other plausible theories available. But how do you prove premeditation in a case like this? I have to wonder if big hunks of stuff were left out of this particular video. Do I think he killed her? From this video, I don't think it's impossible. But reasonable doubt is very present. A jury only watching this video would probably have to acquit.
@ladygumshoe7402
@ladygumshoe7402 11 ай бұрын
You never had a loved one murdered huh??? It shows!!!😡😡😡
@bitcoinbeavis7742
@bitcoinbeavis7742 11 ай бұрын
@@ladygumshoe7402 It doesn’t matter. The legal burden of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt.
@SistaChelle
@SistaChelle 11 ай бұрын
When Victoria said “She’d not be found next time”, I don’t necessarily think she was referring to her body not ultimately being found, rather, she meant she’d not be discovered in time to be saved. 🙏🏼
@atlasbonds6095
@atlasbonds6095 11 ай бұрын
Even if she meant it the way the defense wanted to portray, it's still an unlikely thing to accomplish. And they want us to believe that she walked out of the house and made it to some remote location, but didn't even bring her cigarettes for one last smoke? Just that little fact is hard to believe, without getting into all the rest. He's guilty. Everyone knows it.
@leannabedore
@leannabedore 11 ай бұрын
Great observation! I didn't think of it that way. That is why the daughter said she was mad, mad that she was found that time in the past attempt. This is so sad, once I heard the purse with her wallet and cigarettes, he said to get rid of her stuff to goodwill, how he could care less and lied multiple times is pretty strong evidence.
@therealist2481
@therealist2481 11 ай бұрын
This is extremely scary… that in this world, your life could change in a blink of an eye. I’ve met people like him whose personalities are like his, and that’s just how they are.. that does not mean they are guilty of a crime. Imagine this, somebody’s loved one passes away, and because you were the last known person with them, you are trialed and found guilty of murder with absolutely zero reason, and imagine if you are actually innocent!! This crap happens all of the time! The saying goes “Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt” and there is very much doubt here…. If we cannot absolutely prove this man’s guilt, then his life should not be taken away. This must change as I’m sure we have many innocent people in jail for this reason!
@matthewdekker6064
@matthewdekker6064 10 ай бұрын
It always frustrates me when certain witnesses are so clearly advocating for one side vs. another, so in cross-examination when the attorney asks them a direct yes-or-no question, they just beat around the bush because they know that the truthful answer hurts their case. Luckily, I think in most cases, the jury's able to read between the lines and realize that the witness is being deceptive, but I'd hate to hear that an answer like that was in any way relied upon by the jurors to reach their decision.
@connordoran1806
@connordoran1806 9 ай бұрын
Fr, the prosecution had no evidence so they just defaulted to asking questions to manipulate the jury’s feelings. “Do you miss your mom” “how devastating has this been to your life” like show me some evidence besides a coerced confession 💀
@ChavonJWright
@ChavonJWright 8 ай бұрын
The judge was the worst. If you're going to overrule the objection, make the witness answer!
@chrisyungeberg6978
@chrisyungeberg6978 11 ай бұрын
They railroaded him, clear and simple
@muttsez
@muttsez 9 ай бұрын
yep...and those tracks to him to the pen
@Tim_the_Enchanter
@Tim_the_Enchanter 9 ай бұрын
Any criminal worth his salt will tell you: Stay far away from juries of your "peers."
@Yoda052
@Yoda052 11 ай бұрын
No really there was no actual evidence of his guilt, other than when he started dating someone AFTER his wife’s death ? Despite the fact I also think he’s guilty, this is a fact that must be PROVED. This is a miscarriage of justice, a verdict rendered to make everyone feel good. Never mind they destroyed the life of an innocent woman and imprisoned a man not shown to be guilty.
@evanshannon
@evanshannon 11 ай бұрын
You mean his wife’s disappearance. He started dating her when his wife was still listed as a missing person.
@Ania-cd2sh
@Ania-cd2sh 11 ай бұрын
I agree with you, I “think” he’s guilty. But no there was physical proof or evidence. He could just be an old nasty man that doesn’t care if she even really went missing and might have been happy about it. (Although I don’t believe that) but could be true.
@IzzyMariel
@IzzyMariel 11 ай бұрын
yeah, this is some bs
@evanshannon
@evanshannon 11 ай бұрын
@@Ania-cd2sh And sadly we see that kind of indifference all too often when you’re dealing with a person with difficult mental health issues. He could’ve just been fed up. And of course, everyone grieves in their own unique ways. I don’t think he’s telling the truth about what happened, but I’m also not convinced he murdered he. The state certainly didn’t prove their case in my opinion.
@jacobstehly8777
@jacobstehly8777 11 ай бұрын
Exactly. Can’t find a guy guilty cause I “think” he is or he “probably” might be. Terrible justice system.
@TheSmoothGrind
@TheSmoothGrind 11 ай бұрын
That guy tried to evade conviction like it was 1955.... "I went to this gas station and looked around!!!"
@GP______
@GP______ 11 ай бұрын
So saying you killed someone is a guaranteed conviction with no body? I know his lying helped him get the conviction but without evidence this should've been a mistrial.
@jennyjones1998
@jennyjones1998 11 ай бұрын
agree
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 11 ай бұрын
Look up how many cases go to a conviction based on circumstantial evidence... lots of them. Common sense and too many coincidences weighed against Jim and his gf, too. (But she died before justice was concluded.)
@zubetp
@zubetp 11 ай бұрын
well, circumstantial evidence is still evidence. "she was at the store at the time" or whatever is circumstantial, it's still valid evidence. he's the number one suspect, and all his answers to questions were lies. he's guilty of perjury, so that's legal fact - he lied. he then had no explanation for _why_ he lied. the only thing he was absolutely sure of was that his new lady had nothing to do with it. which - if you don't know anything about what happened to victoria, then how do you know who does or doesn't have anything to do with it lol? his behavior was suspicious - all his (proven false) answers were inconsistent, shouted, and defensive. he indicated no interest in finding this missing woman. the burden of proof is on the state, but i do always take the defense's arguments into account, and i found his arguments to be weak and unconvincing. if this woman's body _was_ found at this point, it's possible she'd be so decomposed that none of his dna would even be on her. so for better or worse, the decision is up to the jury whether this was sufficient evidence or not. so what's your vote? if you were on the jury, would you have voted not guilty? based on the evidence i think i'd have voted guilty, but this is for sure the least amount of _physical_ evidence i've seen in a case with a conviction. especially given that OJ was acquitted when literally all the evidence pointed at him and his lawyer spoke in whimsical couplets like a dr seuss character.
@megane11222
@megane11222 11 ай бұрын
1000%
@TravisBiggie
@TravisBiggie 10 ай бұрын
This is exactly why there are trials
@Richualistik
@Richualistik 11 ай бұрын
What was the evidence of his guilt? Did I miss it?
@muttsez
@muttsez 9 ай бұрын
nope...it was right there.....too many lies.....if you're truly innocent, you dont have to lie
@SavingOurRepublic
@SavingOurRepublic 11 ай бұрын
I believe he is innocent 😢. There are innocent people in prison 😢
@reeldealev
@reeldealev 11 ай бұрын
He was over it, if this wasn't a false coerced confession I have no idea what it was.
@lindsayward829
@lindsayward829 11 ай бұрын
For real! At that age he was probably just like f this I’m done!
@reeldealev
@reeldealev 11 ай бұрын
@@lindsayward829 right!! I feel so bad for everyone involved in this case. I tried to find the full "confession" interview but couldn't find it. I have a feeling he said, "Fine I killed her, is that what you wanted me to say?" But that second part was edited out
@truckinfam2207
@truckinfam2207 11 ай бұрын
No lie detector test, no cadaver dogs,no phone pings. No dogs checked pickup truck.
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 11 ай бұрын
😂 For starters, look up the efficacy and legality of polygraphs. They're not at all admissible in trials. Crime drama on TV vs knowing basics re: American jurisprudence = world of difference.
@eddo1983
@eddo1983 11 ай бұрын
Polygraphs are nonsense.
@truckinfam2207
@truckinfam2207 11 ай бұрын
@@eddo1983 I agree but it may have twisted him up a little. Also dogs. If they mentioned them I didn’t hear them
@vsh510
@vsh510 11 ай бұрын
He said he drove by the gas station and looked not that he pulled into the parking lot and parked at a pump
@muttsez
@muttsez 9 ай бұрын
they had cameras that faced the road too
@Cjamison13
@Cjamison13 11 ай бұрын
So her saying she wouldn’t be found this time meant nothing?
@keithmoore6456
@keithmoore6456 10 ай бұрын
This is how i know the justice system is flawed. Blonde lady really said, "What I've learned was everyone is a suspect until they are not." So guilty until proven innocent, you mean....
@Makima-w1w
@Makima-w1w 2 ай бұрын
Suspicion and sentencing are two completely different things. Questioning a suspect does not = you’re automatically guilty
@NoShiiitSherlock
@NoShiiitSherlock 11 ай бұрын
34:20 - you "implored" her to be truthful by planting what you wantes her to say in her head before you even aaked. This entire Trial is a reversal of the burdon of proof. In this trial, the jury is being asked to convict based on reasonable doubt that the defendant DIDNT kill his wife. They pursued reasonable doubt of his innocence - not of his guilt. An exact reversal of what the offical rules are. The Judge failing to catch this is a profound and historic substrate of dutiful negligence
@susanhughan2198
@susanhughan2198 11 ай бұрын
Exactly! If his Attorneys submitted an appeal, I feel positive they’d grant one ~ then we’d see if the prosecutors would decide to retry him, based on literally No evidence, more than just a weak case; whether they or we “feel” like he’s responsible for her disappearance/death isn’t enough “evidence” to warrant a conviction… Unbelievable 🤦🏼‍♀️ “Justice is blind”
@tessa5373
@tessa5373 11 ай бұрын
I can’t believe he was found guilty with no evidence that is very scary. Yes there is opinions heartbreak and suspicion but physical evidence should be required before cases are even brought to court. How does this happen 🤯
@Makima-w1w
@Makima-w1w 2 ай бұрын
Why do be people keep saying there no “evidence” when he SAID he killed her 5 times
@davehughes53
@davehughes53 11 ай бұрын
How is saying someone is GONE, a sign of guilt? Gone missing, can’t find her, don’t know where she is, missing, gone. All normal descriptions of not knowing where someone is, especially if they have been threatening to leave, or threatening to delete themselves! They are really reaching on how they infer his answers. Circumstantial. Isn’t alcohol used to alleviate anxiety and stress? Watching NASCAR probably helped him cope with all the chaos going on. Could he kill and clean up and dispose of body at his age?
@ajkornnut
@ajkornnut 11 ай бұрын
Jury got this wrong. In this part of the country, these people believe if you get arrested you must be guilty.
@jeremybilbrey1133
@jeremybilbrey1133 9 ай бұрын
they need to retry this case...this is ridiculous
@muttsez
@muttsez 9 ай бұрын
especially if you tell too many lies during interrogation...
@d6mafia13
@d6mafia13 11 ай бұрын
Every single one of these episodes of "killer cases" that I've watched, I generally believe the person is guilty but I would never find them guilty if I was on a jury. There is always way too much reasonable doubt.
@invisobill2125
@invisobill2125 11 ай бұрын
Good thing you’re never on a jury. You’d let every criminal walk free despite overwhelming circumstantial evidence. Fool
@HitmanAddict317
@HitmanAddict317 11 ай бұрын
I've said "I love that woman" before and meant it as a sweet thing. Don't buy that argument personally
@ChavonJWright
@ChavonJWright 8 ай бұрын
Sadly, it's not even the first time I've heard an investigator use this argument.
@candacejackson4142
@candacejackson4142 11 ай бұрын
On the EWU channel it says when a suspect gets angry, they're usually innocent bc they don't care if you like them or not. It doesn't matter bc they're innocent. A guilty party would always try to "look good"
@StarcraftNemesis
@StarcraftNemesis Ай бұрын
dats true for the most part. but i know humans they got really angry when u know the truth and confront em with the truth.
@suzanhodges415
@suzanhodges415 Ай бұрын
This is the level of intellect we may find on a jury panel. EWU is what you evaluate a potential crime in instead of evaluating both the direct and circumstantial evidence. As an attorney I only come here to read the mindset of people who may one day be potential jurors. Many suspects get angry when they are guilty. I hope you never serve on a jury if EWU is what you base a personal opinion on.
@semicharmedlife311
@semicharmedlife311 11 ай бұрын
I believe he's guilty, but that his guilt wasn't proven.
@SquatchSis-0522
@SquatchSis-0522 8 ай бұрын
Yep
@_.Sparky._
@_.Sparky._ 9 ай бұрын
This is a tough one. You can’t convict someone because he comes across like a serious jerk. It’s also fascinating how they use his angry outbursts as suspicious. I’ve watched countless true crime vids where the say the lack of anger is suspicious!
@bec7812
@bec7812 11 ай бұрын
His reaction is very telling.
@houseofsolomon2440
@houseofsolomon2440 11 ай бұрын
😒 He seemed like an angry hothead from the get-go.
@dsmusicbird
@dsmusicbird 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, he got quickly defensive, annoyed, or even angry. Like a true narcissist. Instead of concerned or even heartbroken or broken up over her missing! Yeah very telling to me too. I really expected a Not Guilty verdict though. I was surprised. Though I’m sure of his guilt.
@JAPARICAN50-50
@JAPARICAN50-50 11 ай бұрын
True
@jenna9006
@jenna9006 11 ай бұрын
I believe he's guilty, however could not have convicted him with zero evidence. The justice system is scary...
@candacejackson4142
@candacejackson4142 11 ай бұрын
THAT'S NOT A CONFESSION
@Judy-wv4mx
@Judy-wv4mx 11 ай бұрын
Since Victoria said no one would ever find her body, is there a chance that she may have walked into the sludge pond? Just wondering...........
@muahxxmadison
@muahxxmadison 10 ай бұрын
I find that more probable than someone putting her there.
@muttsez
@muttsez 9 ай бұрын
not without a simple little push....
@cashtalks6253
@cashtalks6253 11 ай бұрын
Call me crazy, but I think this system railroaded this man.
@kgmail7364
@kgmail7364 9 ай бұрын
You are crazy and gullible.
@GriftyNose403s
@GriftyNose403s 9 ай бұрын
Welcome to Wisconsin
@brith1212
@brith1212 9 ай бұрын
Completely!!!!!!!!!
@gussygatlin3093
@gussygatlin3093 9 ай бұрын
😮😮😮
@Digglerdirk79-l4y
@Digglerdirk79-l4y 9 ай бұрын
Not only crazy but flat out wrong😂
@renee1961
@renee1961 11 ай бұрын
Victoria sounded like a lovely woman! My heart goes out to her Family, and Friends.💔🙏💔🙏💔🙏 My heart is breaking for Victoria.🥀🥀🥀🙏🙏🙏💔💔💔🕊️🕊️🕊️
@NoShiiitSherlock
@NoShiiitSherlock 11 ай бұрын
38:48 - One the most shocking miscarriages of justice this nation has ever seen. Wow
@lilayant6547
@lilayant6547 11 ай бұрын
Last week, this man was released after serving 30 years for a murder that he didn't commit now the prosecutor is on trail.
@rocketman6478
@rocketman6478 9 ай бұрын
​@@lilayant6547I believe you're talking about someone else because this happened like 10 years ago...
@susanfontaine5214
@susanfontaine5214 11 ай бұрын
No proof, evidence or confession?? Too much unknown, too many unanswered questions. WOW. I could never had voted guilty.
@graywebb2554
@graywebb2554 11 ай бұрын
But he did confess.
@LoriRobinett
@LoriRobinett 9 ай бұрын
@@graywebb2554 Did he? It sounded more like an expression of frustration. (not to make light of the situation, but like the "I killed someone" scene in My Cousin Vinny.) It seems to happen a lot in very long interrogations, but usually with young suspects. Like the other case in Wisconsin that was made into a Netflix documentary.
@ericacooper2246
@ericacooper2246 11 ай бұрын
Although I do feel he is guilty there was absolutely no evidence of that during trial and it’s sad that a jury was able to convict him beyond a reasonable doubt! That’s the very reason so many innocent people are in prison now.
@tech5298
@tech5298 8 ай бұрын
KZbin polled me for an opinion on your comment. I just thought you’d like to know I gave it five stars all the way around.
@Heylo12345
@Heylo12345 9 ай бұрын
This is weaker than cases that were later proven to have gotten the wrong guy!
@Heylo12345
@Heylo12345 9 ай бұрын
Actually someone saying “take me in i didn’t do it!” Or “I’ll get my day in court” usually points to innocence
@deniseadkins2901
@deniseadkins2901 9 ай бұрын
Or protesting too much. Maybe he knew there was no proof.
@Heylo12345
@Heylo12345 9 ай бұрын
@@deniseadkins2901 could be but I def think there was enough reasonable doubt that he should’ve been found not guilty
@thecornastore
@thecornastore 11 ай бұрын
Jury of 9 men 6 women..I automatically ask for retrial...too many folks up there
@BobbyJoe24.
@BobbyJoe24. 11 ай бұрын
I’m glad he didn’t get away with it that’s such a horrible thing to do and I couldn’t imagine how much pain her family is in because of it and it just makes me sad and hurt thinking of it
@XzadriunWashington-el3ok
@XzadriunWashington-el3ok 11 ай бұрын
You didn’t even watch the video
@kingsboro6704
@kingsboro6704 11 ай бұрын
Facts.. what are you yapping about?
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 11 ай бұрын
​@@XzadriunWashington-el3ok The case was in the news for years. It's not astrophysics.
@XzadriunWashington-el3ok
@XzadriunWashington-el3ok 11 ай бұрын
@@mortalclown3812 deez nuts astrophysicist tho
@lena-mariaglouis-charles7036
@lena-mariaglouis-charles7036 11 ай бұрын
​@@kingsboro6704 Projecting much?
@leannabedore
@leannabedore 11 ай бұрын
I know they had a search warrant for their home but does anyone know if they analyzed his truck?? The inside and back? He seemed to always be driving it in the video footage.
@ChavonJWright
@ChavonJWright 8 ай бұрын
They definitely did, which is why we heard absolutely nothing about it. If they'd found something she would have said the truth is in the truck.
@MarnieMelton-w8d
@MarnieMelton-w8d 10 ай бұрын
I know a lot of people saying they wouldn't have voted guilty but a jury of 12 people see a lot more than what we see and hear in 30 minutes 🤷
@88jeebs
@88jeebs 11 ай бұрын
This is insane. They had no evidence saying he murdered his wife. This is sickening and happens way to often. The fact that people continue to get convicted because they move on quickly or have an affair is horrible. The justice system is not to be based on morals but facts and evidence and they had neither to say he committes a crime.
@jennyd9144
@jennyd9144 11 ай бұрын
lying to the police is bad.
@88jeebs
@88jeebs 11 ай бұрын
@@jennyd9144 doesn't mean you're a murderer
@Jane-uz6vu
@Jane-uz6vu 10 ай бұрын
Sum ends fishy here
@Jane-uz6vu
@Jane-uz6vu 10 ай бұрын
If she did it, she would be found somehow,someway, .buzzards,smell, bones,etc she couldnt cover her own grave. Don't know but feelings.sad story
@Jane-uz6vu
@Jane-uz6vu 10 ай бұрын
Adds up
@alvarodias68
@alvarodias68 11 ай бұрын
I'm confused about hearsay being allowed in the daughter's testimony
@Kymv8382
@Kymv8382 9 ай бұрын
Well, he might be guilty but if I was sitting on the jury, there’s no way I could call an another human guilty of murder without a SLIVER of hard evidence, on the basis of “MIGHT BE GUILTY”. The justice system operates on emotion, not facts unfortunately.
@brantonsims4636
@brantonsims4636 10 ай бұрын
I agree with the majority here. How do you convict someone of murder with absolutely no physical evidence?? No body, no dna, no crime scene, no witness…..I think he did it too, but nothing the prosecutors said actually proves it. That’s crazy to me.
@r.f.pennington746
@r.f.pennington746 7 ай бұрын
Wow! This guy SHOULD have had a lawyer from the start. I believe the guilty verdict came about b/c time had drug on and on and the cops finally wore the guy down in interviews. Heck, after 45 years of marriage, there's no way I could tell anyone what my wife was wearing at just about any point in the day or week, or look through her closets and tell if something were missing. Jeepers, about half the time I forget our anniversary and her eye colour. Saying this with a 13 year LEO background...
@shikd3087
@shikd3087 11 ай бұрын
It’s so easy to find someone guilty with really no evidence and as a blk woman we see it a lot. I feel like there is a reasonable doubt. But it’s so hard to release innocent people. How many ppl have died in prison because fighting for the innocents. It’s sad cause we only get one life and 1 day or 17 yrs in jail when your innocent tells you how messed up are justice system is 😔
@DJSOTO07
@DJSOTO07 11 ай бұрын
A lot of the time it’s the husband that killed the wife
@dukedematteo1995
@dukedematteo1995 10 ай бұрын
I can't believe that was enough evidence for a conviction...Crazy.
@diancourtright3650
@diancourtright3650 Ай бұрын
"If someone denies something 3 times in a row, they are almost always 100 percent guilty." What!? I don't believe that!
@Revo2222-j2u
@Revo2222-j2u 11 ай бұрын
I don’t think he did it
@JoshHull-x1g
@JoshHull-x1g 11 ай бұрын
i love how they include victim impact statements in the opening summary. I wonder which way this one goes...
@mkl5448
@mkl5448 11 ай бұрын
This could happen to anyone, do not talk to police without representation. It doesn't matter if you are 100% innocent, it doesn't matter how it looks that you have retained a lawyer, your life and freedom are at stake. The cops were obviously desperate and wanted to clear the case, lying does not make you a killer.
@muttsez
@muttsez 9 ай бұрын
either does telling the truth...
@complexrobb4528
@complexrobb4528 8 ай бұрын
Wild that they had 0 evidence and put him in jail for life sick country we live in.
@ninajones1175
@ninajones1175 11 ай бұрын
Just because someone is an a** and a cheater doesn’t make him a killer. Is it most likely he is the one? No doubt. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. What happened to beyond a REASONABLE doubt? This is just wrong….
@megane11222
@megane11222 11 ай бұрын
So he lied about a couple of things and that's *beyond reasonable doubt* 🤔 Wow!!!!!
@GP______
@GP______ 11 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree with you more. He's innocent according to the law.
@delaneyb6171
@delaneyb6171 11 ай бұрын
Remember when he literally said "Yeah I killed her" then took it back. Wow!
@Joe-mad
@Joe-mad 11 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@delaneyb6171 Remember when she said next time I off myself no one will find me? These jurors are cowards!
@eddo1983
@eddo1983 11 ай бұрын
​@@Joe-madbut if she actually said that or he made it up?
@megane11222
@megane11222 11 ай бұрын
​@eddo1983 she said it to her daughter....
@MyDoodad
@MyDoodad 11 ай бұрын
There was no evidence really. This is a bad trial.
@pipermccool
@pipermccool 11 ай бұрын
The jury should’ve been shown “Gone Girl.”
@xxBlackVeilBridexx
@xxBlackVeilBridexx 8 ай бұрын
Basing a case off a movie isn’t any better.
@MrSefiroh
@MrSefiroh 11 ай бұрын
Her sitting in court with that helmet on. 😂😂😂
@graywebb2554
@graywebb2554 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@GillzOnly
@GillzOnly 9 ай бұрын
Instant loss of respect hahaha
@marshapieroni6677
@marshapieroni6677 Ай бұрын
They used the fact that he said "no" 3 times ti make him guilty. Then because he said he loved "that woman" they say no one says that. I've heard that many times. Maybe they all gate their wives like this detective was saying
@jhead2007
@jhead2007 9 ай бұрын
The guy was sick of his suicidal wife and his feelings were indifferent. Although that’s sad, it’s not a crime. He could’ve just left her. He had ZERO motive to kill her. I feel sorry for the grown kids but their mother was nuts and it’s reasonable to believe she ran off, I don’t believe the guy is guilty.
@Sfbaytech
@Sfbaytech 11 ай бұрын
That is how you convict an innocent person right there
@muttsez
@muttsez 9 ай бұрын
if hes innocent, why all the lies....you tell the truth ONLY if you're innocent...
@ChavonJWright
@ChavonJWright 8 ай бұрын
@@muttsez lol, which gas station you drove past eight years ago when you were sixty? I'd hardly classify getting that wrong a lie. Also, it's not clear at all in this video what the gas station footage showed, especially important because he said he drove past and the investigator said he wasn't "there."
@gloriawright6544
@gloriawright6544 11 ай бұрын
That's bull****. If he truly began as "Not Guilty"... State certainly showed nothing to price otherwise!
@gloriawright6544
@gloriawright6544 11 ай бұрын
*prove
@fatmanjonestv7143
@fatmanjonestv7143 10 ай бұрын
I think he did it, but no way did they come close to proving it beyond a reasonable doubt in his trial. Honestly? The guilty verdict is terrifying.
@kingkevkc
@kingkevkc 11 ай бұрын
Not saying he isn't guilty but he should not have been found guilty with that lack of evidence
@patmcstuff671
@patmcstuff671 11 ай бұрын
Cops shouldn’t look for unicorns until the donkeys are cleared
@me-qx2rp
@me-qx2rp 11 ай бұрын
He said he "loved her" in past tense. How was that missed?
@angelgiles5852
@angelgiles5852 11 ай бұрын
I don't think he did it.
@Starrbeautylove-c6o
@Starrbeautylove-c6o 11 ай бұрын
What if he actually didn't do it
@lindasheldon6940
@lindasheldon6940 11 ай бұрын
Good case for The Innocence Project group to take a look at possibly
@cjdodgeprimecrime
@cjdodgeprimecrime 11 ай бұрын
I can't imagine watching someone that i once loved, watching their body sink into that sluge. Witnessing that would seem horrific. Its pretty probable that's exactly what he did.
@choctawlove6060
@choctawlove6060 11 ай бұрын
But they can’t prove it man the judicial system has gotten all screwed up. He doesn’t have to prove he’s innocent they have to prove he’s guilty and who gives a crap what people think I mean they had no proof they had no hard evidence on this matter they had feelings, that’s it, I mean I’d be really upset too. If that was my mom. But he’s old you forget and they’re asking him what it was she wearing where did you go to search for her? I know a lot of nasty men like that though great would like that. I hope my family never has to have a jury trial on anything because juries are a joke nowadays.
@invisobill2125
@invisobill2125 11 ай бұрын
@@choctawlove6060jury got it right, he had motive, last one to see her alive, lied and perjured himself. Easy conviction. Good thing you weren’t on the jury
@MalkiyaRochelle-b8c
@MalkiyaRochelle-b8c 11 ай бұрын
I’m dory if your wife is missing why is you moving on weeks after your wife is missing not knowing if she’s dead or alive
@Big74Mike2012
@Big74Mike2012 2 ай бұрын
This sets an incredibly dangerous precedent!! Yet another example of the state using NOTHING but emotion & unrelated facts to convict a person of a crime.... the exact opposite of how the system is supposed to work! It doesn't matter how mean you think a suspect is, how sure a detective thinks they are, how guilty someone sounds, how strange a complete LACK of evidence seems, how guilty the family of the victim thinks they are, or any other assertion made during this trial! If there's no evidence of a crime, then there should be no conviction of a criminal, no exceptions! Will some criminals get away with crimes in this way? Sure... but it's better 20 criminals go free than ONE innocent person spend a lifetime in prison. That used to be the standard of justice we had in this country, but unfortunately, that's no longer the case. As is obvious by the amount of innocent people we've put to death in this country!! It's disgusting watching these legal "professionals" manipulate members of the public just because they have a "strong feeling" about a person!! Shame on them!
@giii7599
@giii7599 2 ай бұрын
Innocent or guilty. NEVER EVER speak to cops. EVER.
@Heylo12345
@Heylo12345 9 ай бұрын
His lawyers should’ve fought this conviction because there clearly is enough reasonable doubt here and really no evidence of guilt just theories and hunches
@muttsez
@muttsez 9 ай бұрын
and lots of lies, thats what done him in, if he was innocent, he would have told the truth....
@nataliebaker918
@nataliebaker918 Ай бұрын
8:24 Her husband was such an angry person... no wonder she was depressed
@anatole322
@anatole322 Ай бұрын
I believe he’s innocent. My Dad always displayed anger when faced with a death of a family member. Although my mom died of natural causes I see so much of my Dad in this man and I believe he was being truthful.
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