Lawnmower Safety Switches BY-PASS SOLVED With only one wire.

[@ectopacheco]

Tying in a extra ground wire from the negative post on the solenoid to the negative on the battery corrected my issue. (craftsman briggs & strattion, with 4 point solenoid) I did not have to add the switch inbetween the coil pack and ignition switch, future viewers might want to try this out first, before splicing

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

Glad it help.. it is hard to believe it was so simple and I was so blind for so long

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

Great glad it inspired you...new perspective will get us thinking in new ways...I learn everday

[@ohbowhunter1171]

I have been racking my brain trying to figure out why it won't start when all safeties and key switch checked out good. Ran a jumper wire from negative on solenoid to negative on battery like you said and now it starts and stops with the key. Plus I still have all my safeties. Life saver. Thank you thank you THANK YOU!!!!

[@Batteriesnotrequired-m5j]

Awesomeness!!! Thank you so very much for this video it reduces all the other safety switches ( open on closed off on open) BS to a fix as so I can cut the grass and consistently cut the yard of which we purchased 3 months ago and I also purchased a JD 110 then cut the entire yard only once. Big problem, all the videos that referenced issues did nothing until this one. I thank you sir and if you're ever around Anderson SC I'll buy your lunch. Excellent job.

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

SO glad it worked for you

[@martink4719]

Best mower video ever

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

thank you

[@TimothyJamesDean]

I hope you're still around! I followed your instructions Kawa 15 hp Husq mower. 2 cylinders, 2 coils. Wire comes from one coil to the other and down. I cut that black wire, did not wire in a switch yet, but hooked alligator wires x 2 to both sides so I could touch them if I needed to stop the engine. 4 connection solenoid, left the big wires alone but tested with "pen" light 12v tester: power to battery side on, power to engine side on when key turned to start. Tried to start. Motor was cranking over but no start so I thought I needed your extra wire to the - terminal (or frame) from the solenoid back/white wire spade connector. Clipped that up to test and cranked but no power to starter at all! I saw a car-style 20 amp inline fuse clipped to the frame with 2x red wires from somewhere in the spaghetti, checked, looked blown, replaced it, motor cranked over again but no start. Again, tried the extra ground wire from the small neg. solenoid terminal. Starter dead. Checked fuse again -- looks good, but no starter turnover at all. I'm worse off than when I started! Ideas? Any other fuses?

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

That's the point of getting rundown of all factory wires you can . The problem is unleaa it's identical to the system I had in front of me its tuff to gives suggestions each ayatrm can be a bit different. I will say this stop and take each component one at a time what will it take for this component to work and supply the wiring for it. I start at the plug, then coil or coils power them (ohm, check them vids online, which will show how) if coils work and have power, tou are almost home next it starter.

[@Batteriesnotrequired-m5j]

@@TimothyJamesDean Same issue I had kinda and my battery was being drained cutting grass for ten minutes then dead eventually had battery charger on start 125anp to get to turn over and next nothing at all no hum clunk zero. Turns out starter had magnet break loose and then caused a pinched to rotor

[@harrydrrim5660]

It was just the one safety switch, The brake pedal switch was the cause of all my problems. A simple wire between the two post took care of it. Thanks to YOU Tube video's anyone can figure things out if you watch enough of them, even an Idiot like myself..

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

glad to help if we did lol

[@frankbyers9719]

you help me out so much!! Thank you.

[@mti14]

Man, you got to stop with the annoying sound effects

[@mtwseneca]

Yeah, I thought great vid, great info, but real annoying noises.

[@philliphall5198]

I agree it’s very childish 😢

[@cedricnorris248]

Thanks so much, your method helped me fix my problem. 🎉

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

Wonderful

[@harrydrrim5660]

Easy to re-hook wires. Ordered new parts, Switch, solenoid and coil. I will start all over and try jumper wire on all safety switches. I'm dumber than a box of rocks so this way I can make same mistakes and still not get mower running .. Fun times.

[@gregr1672]

Nice video ! Thanks . As I sit here contemplating tearing every damn safety switch off my friends newer John Deere.I was going to just run a key on hit wire to the solenoid so it would work just like a 1960 's Ford . God Bless the old cars.Then I heard you say that the Mfgs are breaking the ground wire on some of the circuits now also . So that explains a lot ! The clutch engagement switch on the John Deere has four terminals but is set angle throw switch ,so maybe that switch breaks the ground to the solenoid ,hmm. Thanks for opening my eyes to a different potential issue.I would normally just eliminate safety circuit but its my best friends widow & daughters tractor. I got them an old gravely 2 Wheeler and made sure it had the safety features on it & even made sure they function. My old Gravely s are man eaters ,they will hurt you bad. So ,I am gonna try a by pass switch to solenoid that they can engage when it plays the occasional won't start game ,they an over ride.

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

I like being in control lol out thanks

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

you can call me if you need ill try to help

[@moonolyth]

Ok, great details and to the point. Worked for me but a little off. When the engine is running, the temporary switch won't shut it off?? But if I tur. The key off it will cut off the fuel pump and shut down. If I turn key to off and emidiatly bush the temp. Button, the button will shut it off. Dose work, but it would be really nice to only use the new button for emergency situations. Thanks for the help. I can mowe without testing every other time I use this machine.😂😂❤.

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

You will need a good ground to ignition to kill. This is the thing about this stuff. everyone is a wee bit different than the last. so, you will need to modify for each. I really wanted to help other get the darn things running. and you can work from there. There has been great response to this subject. SO, I think I will make an approved video and cover a bit more Gound.

[@offroadmafiafilms508]

Video helped thank you!

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

Glad it helped!

[@harrydrrim5660]

It appears that my old Kohler wiring is different than B&S .. Once I got rid of the dash switch and the solenoid to battery wire and found the faulty safety switch them put in the jumper wire, I could again use my key switch to start it up 🙂

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

not too bad when you break it down and study it

[@jimmyfinke6759]

hello, thank you for your video, I would like to ask you a question regarding safety switches and my questions are just for personal knowledge only. If I was to avoid all the safety switches on my riding mower could I possibly, from the solenoids white wire trigger wire, wire directly to the S on my ignition switch??? And to possibly avoid the grounding of the safety switches preventing my mower from starting, could I wire my magneto wire directly to the M on my ignition switch, Bypassing the wiring harness that is connecting all the safety switches on my mower???. This is just for personal knowledge only.

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

As bad as I want to answer you I'd need to see it in front of me or a diagram..you can use the same on the start switch and place a dirt wire to the coil ground. The point is to pass it all eliminate everything ..make it run. Then come back and add start switch , on off buttons etc. It's easier for me to think in this manner I wish I could be of more help. You can google.company name a call anytime

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

Glad to hear. It's all about hanging in there and not letting it win

[@rodneychapman197]

Sir. I just wanted you to know that I typed up a novel of a comment to you and some how it didn’t post. 🤷‍♂️ I guess it didn’t want to post. I sent you that LONG LONG post because I’m having issues with my John Deere lawn tractor and you told this gentleman if he needed your help to just call you. I could use a hand with my dilemma, but I don’t like asking for help. I’ve been trouble shooting all day and I’m about to set this lawn tractor on fire!!! I’d never ask for help without doing my due diligence and homework first my good man. I’m just frustrated! These safeties will make you use cuss words that I’ve never heard before! 😳 Anyway. I won’t take up anymore of your time sir. It’s just your voice reminded me of my Paw Paw and the dozens of things he helped me fix. Sure wish he was still here. Not to just help me fix this issue, but just still here...😕 I’m going to walk away from this beast for today, but tomorrow I will attack her again.. And... I will eventually WIN! She will not beat me!!!! “Why?!?” One might ask... Because my Paw Paw never let ANYTHING beat him.. And that’s a fact jack!!!

[@rodneychapman197]

Sir. I just had to leave this lil nugget of info for ya. I lied to you. I’m so sorry, but I straight up lied to you. But in my defense, this is the lie. I told you I was going to walk away for the night. Well. That’s my lie to you sir. I DID’T walk away and guess what?!?!!!??!? I FOUND MY ISSUE!!! 🥰🥰🥰 I was wiggling the negative terminal coming off the battery and I began to hear a clicking sound. It was coming from near the solenoid area. Well. About 3 months ago I bought a new aftermarket transmission belt and it lasted about 5 mins before it popped into several pieces, a string in the belt got caught in my clutch and ripped the clutch wires slam out of the clutch!! AND!! SNATCHED THE WIRES OUT OF THE CLUTCH SO CLOSE TO THE RUBBER/PLASTIC BLOCK THAT I THOUGHT I WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO SPLICE OR SOLDER ME TWO WIRES TO THE TWO WIRES COMING OUT OF THE RUBBER/PLASTIC PART OF THE CLUTCH WHERE THE WIRES GO IN THE CLUTCH! Well. I was able to use a KZbin video trick to put two long wires on the clutch that would reach the two wires that they were snatched from. I drilled two tiny holes in the rubber/plastic block, slid my two wires up passed where I drilled my two holes, screwed two little screws in the drilled holes to mash the wire down onto the contacts in the rubber/plastic block. Been working just fine. Until!!! Well. I wiggled a clutch wire where I had put a wire nut on the clutch wire splice and every time I wiggled the clutch wire near that wire nut I heard that clicking near the solenoid. Either it was the negative wire itself maybe loose from the starter or that clutch wire loose inside the wire nut. Right now I honestly don’t give a poot!! It cranks now!!! I’ll make sure the negative terminal wire going to the starter or going somewhere back in the back is tight. But I think the clutch wire I had spliced with a wire nut wasn’t making good connection or something and that wasn’t satisfying everything so it would crank. All I know is something wasn’t satisfying!!! Ahhhhhh... 😛 Paw Paw.... I know you were watching over me this entire time!! You knew I would NOT QUIT!! AIN’T NO QUIT IN THIS COUNTRY BOY RIGHT HERE!!! Thank you Paw Paw.. Sorry for all the terrible cuss words that came outta my mouth.. I do apologize to you.. Grandma would have made me go get a switch from that hedge beside y’all’s ole house and tore my butt up if she had heard those words exiting my mouth!! 😳. But I know you understand... lol Thank you sir for listening and thank you KZbin. I will in fact be making my first video tomorrow sharing my experience so maybe it might help someone else. 😛 Ahhhh. Life is good!!! Mic drop.... 🎤

[@jimlee5626]

Good stuf Sir

[@TERRYWIRT]

trying to do just what said....but my POS now that it's not running....can't expose the coil pack...after getting in here removing that top part is well challenging....waiting for WD to help lossen these Phelps head screws....on top where the flywheel connects to that cover....

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

Take a Phillips THAT FITS THE SCREW and hammer push down and twist to the left hammer the handle of the screw driver with hard fast raps even try hitting the screw head a few times tobjar loose

[@KevinRobbins-s2r]

I tried doing what you said, solved part of problem it will stay running now, but the blades do not engage any ideas Thank you

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

Question is How or what do you do to engage the blade. Is it manual or electric?

[@dustinbrigge600]

I have been struggling to start my Husqvarna for a few weeks now. The feller that I bought it from had bypassed one of the safety switches but I don't know which one. I am going to go out to my shop with your video and my notes and hopefully have it running by morning. Here is my question-I've been starting it with a screwdriver across the two bolts coming out of the solenoid, will I still be able to start it that way? Or do I need to buy a push button switch to start it?

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

@@dustinbrigge600 buy a nice heavy Duty push to start button and wire it in. The arc with the screw driver will eventually damage your connections

[@ohbowhunter1171]

Try running a jumper wire from the negative on the solenoid to the negative on the battery. My mower wouldn't even turn over with the key until I did this. Now it works great every time .

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

@@dustinbrigge600 use a push button as cross overe will destroy The lugs on the solenoid.I hope you got it running

[@CTM_Never-Give-Up-Giveaways]

Sound effects were hilarious. Content, excellent. Still need help. I have a brand new bs exi725 that arrived with no on off switch. It won't start, but if it did I wouldn't be able to turn it off. One black wire running off back of engine. I do not feel very bright right now. I'm attempting to use this on a log splitter that has no on off switch, nor any other electrical parts. Help please!

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

Killing it is easy A wire to spark plug under cap to switch to ground. The 725 is a vert shaft 163cc right. The basics are all the same but all can be a tad different. I fought a week on .t 800cc vtwin in a golfcart . So look for the vids in the channel

[@richardpayne9640]

i have two ground wires on my solenoid do i need to send them to the neg side of the battery?

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

always GOOD TO DO SO AND TO CHASSIS

[@SweatyGhost]

Decent info but the sound effects are God awful. Trying to listen then a blaring ta da, isn't good for anyone....

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

60- yr old man+ youtube x video + desire to keep attention - skill = My best attempt (the moral is I'm learning every day) I do appreciate the feedback + or - It's what makes me learn

[@ineedfriends6764]

I am gonna be honest I liked it

[@fredrick9026]

I like the sound effects. Makes it more interesting in my opinion. Great video

[@harrydrrim5660]

Hey! Tried this on my Poulan pro with Kohler 17 did nothing for it. No key start, replaced sw. replaced solenoid still nothing... ???????????????????

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

Go back to the basics Find the hot off the key fin the run and look for a grn wire too see if grd cancels power on in any other pos. try a toggle power in to coil and a 2nd for the starter see if that works if so change key switch

[@REVNUMANEWBERN]

@@GottaKnowJoeHobbies I >>THINK

[@ohbowhunter1171]

I had the same problem. I ran a jumper wire from the negative on the solenoid to the negative on the battery and now my mower starts and shuts off with the key switch and all my safeties still work. Hope this helps

[@tbsomerville5798]

That earned a subscribe from me 👍🏻

[@TERRYWIRT]

Thanks...but mine runs and runs well, now the problem after I engage the blades and take off a minute later cuts off ...then if I try to start it right back up it back fires ...but if I let it set for a minute after it cuts off it'll start without the back fire ...my lawns getting high ...help

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

A full minute? Everytime? Wiring is direct and instant so I don't think that is the issue maybe a switch going back internally. It's hard to know without seeing btw sorry for the slow reply If you bypass all switches and wiring and it still dies you will know what isn't the problem at least. Just don't give up. Google the company name and call me ill try.to help u out

[@TERRYWIRT]

@@GottaKnowJoeHobbies yeah....one minute everytime it's an Ole late 90's John deer Kawasaki engine. Last season I bye passed the seat safety switch...

[@Curmudgeon555]

@@GottaKnowJoeHobbies I read elsewhere that the expansion differential between aluminum bolt and heads can cause a coil to move away from the flywheel when they get hot. If the gap is slightly to large to begin with it doesnt take a lot of movement for the coil to move too far back and kill the engine.

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

Not sure about that one

[@slipperyjohnson7016]

This was both very helpful and quite annoying lol

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

I have that effect in my videos.. I have the annoying down pack..lol

[@harrydrrim5660]

More to story: Good battery , 6 amp off on switch, Battery ground to solenoid neg side. Everything do as per your video. Also new carb. Thinking about installing new coil and jump starting it. Is the Kohler eng wiring the problem??

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

Im no expert on all engines I'm just to stupid to quit until i figure stuff out. You are right there it may be one wire keeping you down. I will say this if you can not see the whole wire (any of them) you may be missing. something

[@davidburgess741]

Why bother with a battery at all! Jump start it at the starter and save maintaining a short lived battery. Why sweat it?

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

N all switches keep just the starter from turning over. others kill power to ignition . if I understand your point

[@jayjohns2657]

i have craftman 27 hp kohler i try that it didnt work

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

It works if you do it correctly. All any engine needs is fuel fire and exhaust. If there is No ground on plug or ignition system is not grounded out [how they kill a running engine] it will work.. unless have a bad ignition..can you pull the plug turn over and get spark? Start there

[@donaldatkins2942]

Just change the dam safety switch

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

You are missing the WHOLE POINT lol

[@rjhinnj]

Blame our litigious society for all of these “safety” switches which just encumber our lives… and the slip and fall lawyers ready to pounce. Still looking for a real instructional video on HOW you do these switch removals… this is NOT one of them. Lots of talking but no practical show me how it’s done. Next……

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

If you listen to the words it tells ya

[@DeadboneBob]

Annoying sound effects, noped out after about 30 seconds.

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

I thought ibwas the only one that heard them 🤔

[@dixieboy5689]

What a horrible format to film in. Cant see much!! Who does this?? FAIL

[@GottaKnowJoeHobbies]

I guess an old man that's not tech savvy

[@dixieboy5689]

@@GottaKnowJoeHobbies >> hey Joe ... Ok ,fair enough. Now you know what works and what doesnt. Ill check out any of your new stuff and see how its going. good luck, thanks , from Maine.

[@elmerwaltermeyer8340]

Why do you have all that weird noises. If you're going to make a video make a video we don't wanna listen to all them weird noises. Just because of them noises I will not subscribe.